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Re: Looking for an extra battery that includes a lightning connector

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

I have found a type of cables that I really like they are retracktable. You can 
get them both very cheap and a and a little more expensive, the cheapest is the 
smalest, but the more expensive are more durable.

Best regards Annie.
> Den 13/09/2015 kl. 09.09 skrev Gmail :
> 
> You could also get an external battery and a 6-inch lightning cable.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> I have no idea about the quality of this item but I found it on Amazon after
>> doing a Google search:
>> 
>> EasyAcc° iChoc 5000mAh External Battery Pack Ultra Slim Power Bank with
>> Built-in Lightning Cable Flashlight Portable Charger for iPhone - Matte
>> Black. Sale:$23.99.
>> 
>> Here's the Amazon link followed by its description:
>> 
>> http://www.amazon.com/EasyAcc%C2%B0-External-Lightning-Flashlight-Portable/d
>> p/B00MWRNMEK
>> 
>>   Convenient - Built-in Apple 8-pin Lightning connector allows you to
>> charge your iPhone with Lightning dock whenever you need it. Never worry
>> about not having any suitable cables around again.
>>   Powerful - 5000 mAh capacity can fully charge an iPhone 6 twice, while
>> the dual output can charge two smartphones (iPhone + Android phone) at full
>> speed simultaneously.
>>   Super thin - A thickness of only 0.43 inches makes the iChoc one of the
>> thinnest powerbanks in the world, letting you talk on your phone while
>> charging it by holding both up to your ear.
>>   Versatile - Includes a flashlight for convenience in the dark.
>>   Fast - Charges quickly with a max input of 2A, saving up to half the
>> charging time when compared to powerbanks with 1A input.
>> 
>> Personally, I'd still recommend getting a 4 inch lightning cable like the
>> following:
>> 
>> AmazonBasics Apple Certified Lightning to USB Cable - 4-Inches (10
>> Centimeters) - Black
>> by AmazonBasics. List Price:$12.99. Price: $7.49.
>> 
>> Here's its link:
>> 
>> http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Apple-Certified-Lightning-Cable/dp/B00NH1
>> 38F8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics=UTF8=1442107072=1-1=lightni
>> ng+cable+short
>> 
>> Here's a TinyURL link to the cable:
>> 
>> http://tinyurl.com/osw3ou4
>> 
>> You could simply leave the 4 inch cable plugged into whatever external
>> battery you decided to purchase. And speaking of such, I would recommend
>> this model by Anker which I've been very pleased with:
>> 
>> 
>> Anker Astro E1 5200mAh Ultra Compact Portable Charger External Battery Power
>> Bank with PowerIQ Technology for iPhone 6 Plus 5S 5C 5 4S, iPad Mini,
>> Samsung Galaxy S6 S5 S4 Note, Nexus, HTC, Motorola, Nokia, PS Vita, Gopro,
>> more Phones and Tablets (Black)
>> by Anker. Price:$49.99. Sale: $15.99.
>> 
>> So for an investment of $23.48, you'd have a very good Anker 5200 mAh
>> external battery and a 4 inch lightning cable as well as the micro USB cable
>> which comes with the Anker battery.
>> 
>> Here's the Amazon link to the Anker battery:
>> 
>> http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Portable-External-Technology-Motorola/dp/B00P7N0
>> 320/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics=UTF8=1442107229=1-1=anker+ba
>> ttery+5200+mAh
>> 
>> Here's a TinyURL to the Anker battery:
>> 
>> http://tinyurl.com/ol4neah
>> 
>> Happy shopping and good luck with your decision.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 6:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Looking for an extra battery that includes a lightning
>> connector
>> 
>> I expect you're right, Allen, but I can always hope. I just cannot see
>> hauling around a long cable and plug in the battery when I'm out and about
>> and need to use my phone.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suspect finding an external battery with a lightning cable built in is
>> going to be a long and fruitless search, especially for a high quality
>> product. 
>>> 
>>> Such an external battery would be limited to idevices since the android
>> world uses micro USB for charging its products and manufacturers are smart
>> enough to build their batteries with both full sized USB and micro USB ports
>> so that with the appropriate cables, users of both iOS and android devices
>> can use their products. That just makes good economic sense. 
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 12, 2015, at 4:59 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 There has been a lot of discussion recently on this list about external
>> batteries for use with various devices. I would like to find one that has a
>> lightning connector built directly into the battery pack. I used to have one
>> like that for the old 30 pin connectors. It was a cheap piece of junk of
>> course, and I paid the appropriate price. I'm looking for something that
>> would be 

Re: Looking for an extra battery that includes a lightning connector

[Gmail]

You could also get an external battery and a 6-inch lightning cable.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 12, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I have no idea about the quality of this item but I found it on Amazon after
> doing a Google search:
> 
> EasyAcc° iChoc 5000mAh External Battery Pack Ultra Slim Power Bank with
> Built-in Lightning Cable Flashlight Portable Charger for iPhone - Matte
> Black. Sale:$23.99.
> 
> Here's the Amazon link followed by its description:
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/EasyAcc%C2%B0-External-Lightning-Flashlight-Portable/d
> p/B00MWRNMEK
> 
>Convenient - Built-in Apple 8-pin Lightning connector allows you to
> charge your iPhone with Lightning dock whenever you need it. Never worry
> about not having any suitable cables around again.
>Powerful - 5000 mAh capacity can fully charge an iPhone 6 twice, while
> the dual output can charge two smartphones (iPhone + Android phone) at full
> speed simultaneously.
>Super thin - A thickness of only 0.43 inches makes the iChoc one of the
> thinnest powerbanks in the world, letting you talk on your phone while
> charging it by holding both up to your ear.
>Versatile - Includes a flashlight for convenience in the dark.
>Fast - Charges quickly with a max input of 2A, saving up to half the
> charging time when compared to powerbanks with 1A input.
> 
> Personally, I'd still recommend getting a 4 inch lightning cable like the
> following:
> 
> AmazonBasics Apple Certified Lightning to USB Cable - 4-Inches (10
> Centimeters) - Black
> by AmazonBasics. List Price:$12.99. Price: $7.49.
> 
> Here's its link:
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Apple-Certified-Lightning-Cable/dp/B00NH1
> 38F8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics=UTF8=1442107072=1-1=lightni
> ng+cable+short
> 
> Here's a TinyURL link to the cable:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/osw3ou4
> 
> You could simply leave the 4 inch cable plugged into whatever external
> battery you decided to purchase. And speaking of such, I would recommend
> this model by Anker which I've been very pleased with:
> 
> 
> Anker Astro E1 5200mAh Ultra Compact Portable Charger External Battery Power
> Bank with PowerIQ Technology for iPhone 6 Plus 5S 5C 5 4S, iPad Mini,
> Samsung Galaxy S6 S5 S4 Note, Nexus, HTC, Motorola, Nokia, PS Vita, Gopro,
> more Phones and Tablets (Black)
> by Anker. Price:$49.99. Sale: $15.99.
> 
> So for an investment of $23.48, you'd have a very good Anker 5200 mAh
> external battery and a 4 inch lightning cable as well as the micro USB cable
> which comes with the Anker battery.
> 
> Here's the Amazon link to the Anker battery:
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Portable-External-Technology-Motorola/dp/B00P7N0
> 320/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics=UTF8=1442107229=1-1=anker+ba
> ttery+5200+mAh
> 
> Here's a TinyURL to the Anker battery:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/ol4neah
> 
> Happy shopping and good luck with your decision.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 6:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Looking for an extra battery that includes a lightning
> connector
> 
> I expect you're right, Allen, but I can always hope. I just cannot see
> hauling around a long cable and plug in the battery when I'm out and about
> and need to use my phone.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> I suspect finding an external battery with a lightning cable built in is
> going to be a long and fruitless search, especially for a high quality
> product. 
>> 
>> Such an external battery would be limited to idevices since the android
> world uses micro USB for charging its products and manufacturers are smart
> enough to build their batteries with both full sized USB and micro USB ports
> so that with the appropriate cables, users of both iOS and android devices
> can use their products. That just makes good economic sense. 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 4:59 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There has been a lot of discussion recently on this list about external
> batteries for use with various devices. I would like to find one that has a
> lightning connector built directly into the battery pack. I used to have one
> like that for the old 30 pin connectors. It was a cheap piece of junk of
> course, and I paid the appropriate price. I'm looking for something that
> would be better quality of course, but, I have never seen anything like that
> on say, Amazon. With my for ass and my 5S I have used battery cases. But
> they are quite expensive I think, and what I would like to find is a battery
> pack that I can attach when necessary, and detach when not needed. And I
> don't want to monkey with a cable. If you're out and about and you need to
> attach a battery, you don't need a cable. You just need 

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iPod touch 6th generation 128GB, brand new.  2014 MacMini 8 gigs of ram 1TB 
spinning hard drive, bought back in May, and barely used.  If interested, 
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problem resetting account information

[Vicki]

I need to make a purchase in the app store, and because my account information 
has changed at my bank, I need to reset the information. Everything seems to be 
enter correctly, but I keep getting a message that some required information is 
missing and it is highlighted in red. So I try again and finally after so many 
tries, my session timed out.

Before I try again, is there any great secret to resetting the information?

Thanks.

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Re: Looking for an extra battery that includes a lightning connector

[Brent Harding]

Ravpower makes one, and I got that on Amazon. The little cable built in to 
it isn't more than a couple inches long though, but it does exist, and it 
works good.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for an extra battery that includes a lightning 
connector



I expect you're right, Allen, but I can always hope. I just cannot see 
hauling around a long cable and plug in the battery when I'm out and about 
and need to use my phone.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

I suspect finding an external battery with a lightning cable built in is 
going to be a long and fruitless search, especially for a high quality 
product.


Such an external battery would be limited to idevices since the android 
world uses micro USB for charging its products and manufacturers are smart 
enough to build their batteries with both full sized USB and micro USB 
ports so that with the appropriate cables, users of both iOS and android 
devices can use their products. That just makes good economic sense.


Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 12, 2015, at 4:59 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

There has been a lot of discussion recently on this list about external 
batteries for use with various devices. I would like to find one that has 
a lightning connector built directly into the battery pack. I used to 
have one like that for the old 30 pin connectors. It was a cheap piece of 
junk of course, and I paid the appropriate price. I'm looking for 
something that would be better quality of course, but, I have never seen 
anything like that on say, Amazon. With my for ass and my 5S I have used 
battery cases. But they are quite expensive I think, and what I would 
like to find is a battery pack that I can attach when necessary, and 
detach when not needed. And I don't want to monkey with a cable. If 
you're out and about and you need to attach a battery, you don't need a 
cable. You just need the battery connected to the phone via the 
connector. Does such exist?

Mary

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

[Gmail]

Gi, Dave,


Don't reset your phon just yet. If you haven't done so already, add the volume 
setting to your rotor. You can find that in the Settings app, under 
General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor. After that, turn to volume in your rotor 
and do a one-finger flick up. This will raise your VO volume. Then use your 
volume down button to lower your VO sounds. If your VO volume gets too low 
again, just do another one-finger flick up with your rotor set to volume.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
>  
> I am using an iPhone 4s.  I am considering a new phone, but I will keep the 
> 4s as a back up. I am having trouble with the sounds being really loud and 
> voice over is very quiet.  I have tried turning audio ducking on and off with 
> no real difference.  I have tried, rebooting voice over, and of course 
> rebooting the phone.   , I have also tried holding the home and power button 
> down until the apple logo appears.  I am considering doing a reset where the 
> option is to reset all settings, not network settings.  I don’t have iTunes 
> installed and am reluctant to use it, as it seems not to work well with my 
> windows machines. . If I use the “reset all settings” option, will it keep 
> all my folders? Will the triple click home still turn voice over on? Will I 
> have to log back in to all my apps? Lastly, will this reset fix my sounds?
>  
> This problem has only started having this problem over the last few weeks. 
> Please share answers  on list as this could be helpful to others. 
> many thanks
> Dave
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Re: Problem Solved! -- Unable to update apps since updating iOS

[Kimber Gardner]

Thanks for the tip. I will do a reset network settings before my next
update. For whatever reason, I don't think I ever did that before an
iOS update.

Kimber

On 9/12/15, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Kimber,
>
> I am almost certain that you would not have had this issue had you done a
> Reset Network Settings before the upgrade. I know some people will say they
> have never done this and never had problems, but then again some never wear
> a seat belt and it's not a problem if nothing happens. As per Rob from the
> Today in iOS Podcast who has been an iPhone user since the original iPhone
> came out and who has heard feedback from probably tens of thousands of
> people by now, doing this before upgrading iOS will often prevent potential
> issues and one thing is for sure, it won't hurt and reconnecting to one's
> WiFi is really not a very big inconvenience. You may want to keep it in mind
> when you upgrade to iOS 9 (if you plan to do so).
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 5:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem Solved! -- Unable to update apps since updating iOS
>
> As soon as I reset my network settings the problem was solved. The apps that
> had been showing "connecting" for the past four days updated and everything
> looks fine.
>
> Thanks again to all for their helpful suggestions. You guys are the best!
>
> Kimber
>
> On 9/12/15, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
>> I did most of those things though I don't know what "force quit all apps"
>> means.
>>
>> I did clear the app switcher and reboot the phone with no change in
>> the connecting status. I also signed out of the iTunes store and back
>> in also with no good results.
>>
>> To answer another question, the apps I was trying to update are
>> Blindfold Solitaire and Google, both of which I have successfully
>> updated in the past.
>>
>> Today I am going to try the reset all network settings solution. If
>> that doesn't work I will try updating by connecting to my laptop
>> though that is my last resort.
>>
>> Thanks all for the suggestions. I will let you know what happens.
>>
>> Kimber
>>
>> On 9/11/15, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Hi Kimber,
>>>
>>> Did you do any sort of preparation before doing the update, e.g.
>>> backup your phone, force quit all apps, perform a Reset all Network
>>> Settings? John's suggestion to go to Settings > General > Reset and
>>> do a Reset All Network Settings would also be my advice. Remember
>>> after your phone reboots you have to reconnect again to your WiFi and
>>> enter the password. Following the simple steps I outlined above can
>>> prevent most upgrade issues.
>>> One last comment, if you have given your iPhone a custom name in
>>> Settings
>>> >
>>> General > About you will have to enter that name again after a Reset
>>> All Network Settings since that procedure will put the default name
>>> back.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
>>> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:21 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Unable to update apps since updating iOS
>>>
>>> For how long? I've left the update process active for as long as 30
>>> minutes and nothing changed.
>>>
>>> K
>>>
>>> On 9/11/15, martinnelso...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi; I have had the same problem. I found that if I remain signed in
 the apps will update. I hope this helps.

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2015, at 4:54 AM, Kimber Gardner
> 
> wrote:
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> Hi All,
>
> Ever since I updated the iOS on my phone I am unable to update any
> of my apps. When I open the app store I can see the list of
> available updates, but when I tap the update button for an
> individual app I get a connecting message but nothing more.
>
> I have tried with several different apps. I have cleared the app
> switcher, powered off the phone and powered it back on, all to no
> avail.
>
> Any ideas what might be going on?
>
> Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
>
> Kimber
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Voicedream writer

[Hope Paulos]

Want to get voicedream writer. Can I search, like doing a jaws find, with this 
program? Also, does it work with braille displays?

Thanks!

Hope Paulos

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problems with sounds and voice-over

[Dave]

Hi.

I am using an iPhone 4s.  I am considering a new phone, but I will keep the 4s 
as a back up. I am having trouble with the sounds being really loud and voice 
over is very quiet.  I have tried turning audio ducking on and off with no real 
difference.  I have tried, rebooting voice over, and of course rebooting the 
phone.   , I have also tried holding the home and power button down until the 
apple logo appears.  I am considering doing a reset where the option is to 
reset all settings, not network settings.  I don’t have iTunes installed and am 
reluctant to use it, as it seems not to work well with my windows machines. . 
If I use the “reset all settings” option, will it keep all my folders? Will the 
triple click home still turn voice over on? Will I have to log back in to all 
my apps? Lastly, will this reset fix my sounds?

This problem has only started having this problem over the last few weeks.  
Please share answers  on list as this could be helpful to others.  
many thanks
Dave
 

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RE: Voicedream writer

[Richard Turner]

It has a search function, I have no idea if it is like the Jaws find since I am 
not a Jaws user.

It does work with braille displays.

You may also want to right to supp...@voicedream.com for more details.

Richard


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Want to get voicedream writer. Can I search, like doing a jaws find, with this 
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NFL Game Pass update

[Marie]

I have the NFL mobile app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of 
Game Pass.
I am now listening to the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on my 
Iphone. First I went to the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted to 
hear, I clicked on Seattle and was taken to a page which let me select which 
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beautifully at the moment. At half time they are tied at 10 apiece.
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Re: NFL Game Pass update

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Can either of you confirm or deny that the app breaks the audio when you lock 
the screen? It’s doing that for me on both my iPhone and iPad.

> On Sep 13, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
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> Hey Marie,
> Have you figured out how to start and stop audio at will in the app?
> Robin
>  
>  
> From: Marie 
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 2:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: NFL Game Pass update
>  
> I have the NFL mobile app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of 
> Game Pass.
> I am now listening to the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on 
> my Iphone. First I went to the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted to 
> hear, I clicked on Seattle and was taken to a page which let me select which 
> team I wanted to get the stream from and then on Listen Now. It is working 
> beautifully at the moment. At half time they are tied at 10 apiece.
> Marie
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Re: NFL Game Pass update

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I can confirm this it also stops if you leave the app as well which for me so 
far is the only way I’ve actually found to stop audio at will.
Robin


From: Daniel Miller 
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Subject: Re: NFL Game Pass update

Can either of you confirm or deny that the app breaks the audio when you lock 
the screen? It’s doing that for me on both my iPhone and iPad. 

  On Sep 13, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:

  Hey Marie,
  Have you figured out how to start and stop audio at will in the app?
  Robin


  From: Marie 
  Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 2:26 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: NFL Game Pass update

  I have the NFL mobile app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of 
Game Pass.
  I am now listening to the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on 
my Iphone. First I went to the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted to 
hear, I clicked on Seattle and was taken to a page which let me select which 
team I wanted to get the stream from and then on Listen Now. It is working 
beautifully at the moment. At half time they are tied at 10 apiece.
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Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

[Gmail]

That's going to make his VOO sounds go up, as well, though, which isn't what he 
wants, if I understood his original message correctly.

> On Sep 13, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Marie  wrote:
> 
> another possible solution is to hold the volume up button and swipe around 
> the screen. This normally increases the VO volume.
> Marie
>  
>  
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>  
> Gi, Dave,
>  
>  
> Don't reset your phon just yet. If you haven't done so already, add the 
> volume setting to your rotor. You can find that in the Settings app, under 
> General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor. After that, turn to volume in your 
> rotor and do a one-finger flick up. This will raise your VO volume. Then use 
> your volume down button to lower your VO sounds. If your VO volume gets too 
> low again, just do another one-finger flick up with your rotor set to volume.
>  
>  
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Dave  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>>  
>> I am using an iPhone 4s.  I am considering a new phone, but I will keep the 
>> 4s as a back up. I am having trouble with the sounds being really loud and 
>> voice over is very quiet.  I have tried turning audio ducking on and off 
>> with no real difference.  I have tried, rebooting voice over, and of course 
>> rebooting the phone.   , I have also tried holding the home and power button 
>> down until the apple logo appears.  I am considering doing a reset where the 
>> option is to reset all settings, notnetwork settings.  I don’t have 
>> iTunes installed and am reluctant to use it, as it seems not to work well 
>> with my windows machines. . If I use the “reset all settings” option, will 
>> it keep all my folders? Will the triple click home still turn voice over on? 
>> Will I have to log back in to all my apps? Lastly, will this reset fix my 
>> sounds?
>>  
>> This problem has only started having this problem over the last few weeks. 
>> Please share answers  on list as this could be helpful to others. 
>> many thanks
>> Dave
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Re: NFL Game Pass update

[Marie]

No, the only way I found to do this is to exit the app by pressing the home 
button, then when you tap on the app, it will go right back to the broadcast 
and begin playing on its own.
In answer to an earlier question, it does stop when the screen locks so I had 
to set auto lock to never.
Marie


From: Robin Frost 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: NFL Game Pass update

Hey Marie,
Have you figured out how to start and stop audio at will in the app?
Robin


From: Marie 
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: NFL Game Pass update

I have the NFL mobile app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of 
Game Pass.
I am now listening to the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on my 
Iphone. First I went to the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted to 
hear, I clicked on Seattle and was taken to a page which let me select which 
team I wanted to get the stream from and then on Listen Now. It is working 
beautifully at the moment. At half time they are tied at 10 apiece.
Marie

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Re: NFL Game Pass update

[Robin Frost]

Hey Marie,
Have you figured out how to start and stop audio at will in the app?
Robin


From: Marie 
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: NFL Game Pass update

I have the NFL mobile app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of 
Game Pass.
I am now listening to the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on my 
Iphone. First I went to the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted to 
hear, I clicked on Seattle and was taken to a page which let me select which 
team I wanted to get the stream from and then on Listen Now. It is working 
beautifully at the moment. At half time they are tied at 10 apiece.
Marie

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Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

[Christopher Chaltain]

My understanding was that audio was always available on the PC and Mac, 
and that it would be coming to the mobile app, which was supposed to 
have happened in the update to the NFL Mobile app a few days ago. I'll 
be curious to hear if this works an if you get the radio feed or just 
the audio of the TV feed. Since you get to choose between the home feed 
and the away feed, I'm assuming this means you'll get the radio broadcast.


Although NFL Game Pass does make it convenient to pull up any game, it 
isn't the only way to listen to NFL games. I'm listening to the radio 
feed of a game right now through the team's home page.


On 09/12/2015 09:35 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Getting back to the original topic of this thread, I called NFL
Customer Support earlier and found out some interesting and perhaps
good information. First of all, the Game Pass subscription lets you
listen to live audio during the game and view video of the game after
it is over. I have read conflicting reports on this issue which is why
I point it out. Second, I told the representative that I was blind and
the video didn't matter to me that much, but I did want the live audio
during the game. Upon further discussion, he assured me that I could
listen to the audio both on a computer or in the NFL Mobile app. When
I asked him how to do it with the app, he said that you select the
Matchups tab, the game you wanted, and then the home or away feed for
the team. He indicated that once you are signed in on the app and have
started the Game Pass free 7 day trial, that the option to listen to
the audio would appear. Since the season has barely started I don't
know how well this works in practice. However, given that there looks
to be virtually no other way to hear any games this season outside of
the Game Pass subscription, I am ready to bite the bullet and pay the
$99.99. Also, you are not charged until after the 7 day free trial,
and if you cancel before the end of the trial then you are not out
anything. Finally, just for a comparison, I called Sirius to ask about
online subscription options. After I explained that I wasn't
interested in getting a receiver and only wanted the online plans, I
was told of an online plan for $14.99 monthly before taxes and such
that I could get. The representative said that since I live in Texas,
the total would be around $17. I hung up and did some quick
calculations; the Sirius plan would cost around $215 per year, verses
the NFL Game Pass for one payment of $99.99 yearly. Not knocking
Sirius but all I really want is the game audio and am seriously
considering taking the leap. I will at least start my free trial and
see how the app works as far as accessibility. If it is doable then I
will definitely report back. For more information, go to:
www.nfl.com/gamepass
or
http://gamepass.nfl.com

I did download several apps for specific teams but who knows how
accessible those will be, and even if they will have the ability to
stream the game.

Wayne

On 9/12/15, M. Taylor  wrote:

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

yeah. enough already!

At 11:08 PM 9/11/2015, you wrote:

Oh jesus, dramafest 2.0. Since the NFL released an update that includes live
audio listening, I’d like to think this thread can be closed now.


On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Donald L. Roberts
 wrote:

Christopher, you certainly have the right to pontificate about anything
you choose.  However, I too have the right to express the idea that the
Sirius subscription is a better value.  You show me anything in my
previous messages which was critical, expressed or implied.

Don Roberts


On 9/11/2015 4:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

The fact that you think the NFL's Game Pass is worth little to nothing is
your own opinion, and based on your message, I don't really think you
respect someone who's signs up for NFL Game Pass. I got the same
criticism as a Audio Pass subscriber in the past, but being able to
effortlessly pull up any radio feed of any game I wanted was worth $20 to
me. I decided it wasn't worth $99 to me, so I passed on a Game Pass
subscription this season, but I would never criticize someone else who
did. I have no idea 

Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

[Daniel Miller]

Hi,
I was able to get the feed of the Panthers-Jags game, and it is the radio 
feeds. There is one problem, though, when you lock the screen, the audio 
breaks. Can anyone confirm or deny this issue and report back?

> On Sep 13, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> My understanding was that audio was always available on the PC and Mac, and 
> that it would be coming to the mobile app, which was supposed to have 
> happened in the update to the NFL Mobile app a few days ago. I'll be curious 
> to hear if this works an if you get the radio feed or just the audio of the 
> TV feed. Since you get to choose between the home feed and the away feed, I'm 
> assuming this means you'll get the radio broadcast.
> 
> Although NFL Game Pass does make it convenient to pull up any game, it isn't 
> the only way to listen to NFL games. I'm listening to the radio feed of a 
> game right now through the team's home page.
> 
> On 09/12/2015 09:35 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>> Getting back to the original topic of this thread, I called NFL
>> Customer Support earlier and found out some interesting and perhaps
>> good information. First of all, the Game Pass subscription lets you
>> listen to live audio during the game and view video of the game after
>> it is over. I have read conflicting reports on this issue which is why
>> I point it out. Second, I told the representative that I was blind and
>> the video didn't matter to me that much, but I did want the live audio
>> during the game. Upon further discussion, he assured me that I could
>> listen to the audio both on a computer or in the NFL Mobile app. When
>> I asked him how to do it with the app, he said that you select the
>> Matchups tab, the game you wanted, and then the home or away feed for
>> the team. He indicated that once you are signed in on the app and have
>> started the Game Pass free 7 day trial, that the option to listen to
>> the audio would appear. Since the season has barely started I don't
>> know how well this works in practice. However, given that there looks
>> to be virtually no other way to hear any games this season outside of
>> the Game Pass subscription, I am ready to bite the bullet and pay the
>> $99.99. Also, you are not charged until after the 7 day free trial,
>> and if you cancel before the end of the trial then you are not out
>> anything. Finally, just for a comparison, I called Sirius to ask about
>> online subscription options. After I explained that I wasn't
>> interested in getting a receiver and only wanted the online plans, I
>> was told of an online plan for $14.99 monthly before taxes and such
>> that I could get. The representative said that since I live in Texas,
>> the total would be around $17. I hung up and did some quick
>> calculations; the Sirius plan would cost around $215 per year, verses
>> the NFL Game Pass for one payment of $99.99 yearly. Not knocking
>> Sirius but all I really want is the game audio and am seriously
>> considering taking the leap. I will at least start my free trial and
>> see how the app works as far as accessibility. If it is doable then I
>> will definitely report back. For more information, go to:
>> www.nfl.com/gamepass
>> or
>> http://gamepass.nfl.com
>> 
>> I did download several apps for specific teams but who knows how
>> accessible those will be, and even if they will have the ability to
>> stream the game.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> On 9/12/15, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> Moderator Note:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I hope you are all doing well.
>>> 
>>> I am assisting Cara in managing this list.
>>> 
>>> This particular thread has taken a bit of a personal turn so I request the
>>> following:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Please do not make personal judgments as to the value of anyone else or
>>> anyone else's comments, on-list.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Although I am a huge sports fan, please refrain from discussing actual sport
>>> events as doing so goes beyond the scope of this list.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> If you take exception to any list posters contribution, please send your
>>> comments to Cara and/or me, off-list.
>>> 
>>> And 4.
>>> Have a great weekend.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Chris Smart
>>> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.
>>> 
>>> yeah. enough already!
>>> 
>>> At 11:08 PM 9/11/2015, you wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh jesus, dramafest 2.0. Since the NFL released an update that includes live
>>> audio listening, I’d like to think this thread can be closed now.
>>> 
 On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Donald L. Roberts
  wrote:
 
 Christopher, you certainly have the right to pontificate about anything
 you choose.  However, I too have the right to express the idea that the
 Sirius subscription is a better value.  You show me anything 

RE: Looking for an extra battery that includes a lightning connector

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

I purchased a very short lightening cable from amazon.  It does the trick quite 
nicely and doesn't take up much room.  It's either 4 or 6 inches long.  I can't 
remember which at the moment. 
HTH
God bless!
Paula and Boston

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 7:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for an extra battery that includes a lightning connector

I expect you're right, Allen, but I can always hope. I just cannot see hauling 
around a long cable and plug in the battery when I'm out and about and need to 
use my phone.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I suspect finding an external battery with a lightning cable built in is 
> going to be a long and fruitless search, especially for a high quality 
> product. 
> 
> Such an external battery would be limited to idevices since the android world 
> uses micro USB for charging its products and manufacturers are smart enough 
> to build their batteries with both full sized USB and micro USB ports so that 
> with the appropriate cables, users of both iOS and android devices can use 
> their products. That just makes good economic sense. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 4:59 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> There has been a lot of discussion recently on this list about external 
>> batteries for use with various devices. I would like to find one that has a 
>> lightning connector built directly into the battery pack. I used to have one 
>> like that for the old 30 pin connectors. It was a cheap piece of junk of 
>> course, and I paid the appropriate price. I'm looking for something that 
>> would be better quality of course, but, I have never seen anything like that 
>> on say, Amazon. With my for ass and my 5S I have used battery cases. But 
>> they are quite expensive I think, and what I would like to find is a battery 
>> pack that I can attach when necessary, and detach when not needed. And I 
>> don't want to monkey with a cable. If you're out and about and you need to 
>> attach a battery, you don't need a cable. You just need the battery 
>> connected to the phone via the connector. Does such exist?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: NFL Game Pass update

[Christopher Chaltain]

You can get the NFL Mobile app from the App Store. You can sign up for 
Game Pass on line. I assume you can also get it as an in app purchase 
with the NFL Mobile app. I'm not sure if Verizon customers get a break 
on the price. I know in the past, Verizon customers would get some 
exclusive features, and I don't think they paid for Audio Pass in the past.


On 09/13/2015 02:33 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

Where do you get this? From Verizon? The app store?

Is it the same price from Verizon?

Thanks, Keith

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Marie
*Sent:* Sunday, September 13, 2015 1:27 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* NFL Game Pass update

I have the NFL mobile app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial
of Game Pass.

I am now listening to the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game
on my Iphone. First I went to the Matchup tab, when I found the game I
wanted to hear, I clicked on Seattle and was taken to a page which let
me select which team I wanted to get the stream from and then on Listen
Now. It is working beautifully at the moment. At half time they are tied
at 10 apiece.

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pre-ordering with the Apple Store app

[Vicky Collins]

I first have a question, then I'll talk about my experience using 
the Apple Store app to pre-order an iPhone here in the United 
States.  Is it possible to pre-order an unlocked iPhone 6S or 6S 
Plus using the Apple Store app? When using the app, I see the 
option to order a contract free iPhone; then, when I select this 
option, the app shows step1 us prodselect tmobilelo.  And, I'm 
not quite sure what this means, not sure if this is different 
from a factory unlocked phone normally available from Apple a few 
months after the new iPhones go on sale.  Although, it kind of 
looks like some sort of T-Mobile model phone.


As for the rest of my experience with the Apple Store app and 
pre-ordering, I opted to sleep in and try to see what I could do 
around eight o'clock yesterday morning.  And, I was able to go in 
and pre-order the Space Gray iPhone 6S Plus 64GB to be delivered 
September 25th.  I had looked at the contract free choice, but 
didn't at that time realize I had to double tap on that step1 
message stated above to get it to work, so thought it was only an 
in store option.  Thus, I pre-ordered the AT model, thankfully 
being able to choose to pay full purchase price this time, as you 
might recall it took me forever to get that Next plan paid off 
when I purchased the 6 Plus last year.


When I was purchasing that said carrier model, I was made aware 
of a $15 upgrade fee, even though I had paid off my Next plan 
contract several months ago.  Of course I had to research that 
fee further, and found that AT had indeed changed their upgrade 
fees as indicated from:


www.att.com/shop/wireless/upgrade-advantage.html

Then, I checked further and saw this iPhone 6S and 6S Plus buying 
guide indicating that one could get an unlocked phone from Apple 
right away:


m.imore.com/how-buy-iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-united-states

When I read that article, I went back to the Apple Store app and 
looked again, and that is when I paid more attention and saw how 
to make the contract free option show up such that I could pay 
outright for that selection.  I then canceled my AT order, 
something that was quite easily done on the Apple web site with 
just a few keystrokes, but haven't yet submitted another order.  
By the way, the AT and contract free Space Gray iPhone 6S 64GB 
were still showing a September 25th delivery date as of an hour 
ago, meaning around 11:30 AM EDT on Sunday morning, while both 
the contract free and AT models for the Space Gray 64GB 6S Plus 
were showing a 3 to 4 week delivery time.


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Re: NFL Game Pass update

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Oh wow look I followed your message to the letter and there we go it’s working 
here too.
I’ll be curious to hear what it does tomorrow night when my team is playing 
whether it’ll give me the audio in market or if it’ll be georestricted.
I’m still most disappointed that GamePass deprived me of the pre-season games 
through the iOS App.
thanks for the education though.
Robin


From: Marie 
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: NFL Game Pass update

I have the NFL mobile app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of 
Game Pass.
I am now listening to the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on my 
Iphone. First I went to the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted to 
hear, I clicked on Seattle and was taken to a page which let me select which 
team I wanted to get the stream from and then on Listen Now. It is working 
beautifully at the moment. At half time they are tied at 10 apiece.
Marie

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RE: NFL Game Pass update

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Where do you get this? From Verizon? The app store?

Is it the same price from Verizon?

Thanks, Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 1:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: NFL Game Pass update

I have the NFL mobile app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of 
Game Pass.
I am now listening to the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on my 
Iphone. First I went to the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted to 
hear, I clicked on Seattle and was taken to a page which let me select which 
team I wanted to get the stream from and then on Listen Now. It is working 
beautifully at the moment. At half time they are tied at 10 apiece.
Marie

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Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

[Marie]

another possible solution is to hold the volume up button and swipe around the 
screen. This normally increases the VO volume.
Marie


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Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

Gi, Dave,


Don't reset your phon just yet. If you haven't done so already, add the volume 
setting to your rotor. You can find that in the Settings app, under 
General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor. After that, turn to volume in your rotor 
and do a one-finger flick up. This will raise your VO volume. Then use your 
volume down button to lower your VO sounds. If your VO volume gets too low 
again, just do another one-finger flick up with your rotor set to volume.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Dave  wrote:


  Hi.

  I am using an iPhone 4s.  I am considering a new phone, but I will keep the 
4s as a back up. I am having trouble with the sounds being really loud and 
voice over is very quiet.  I have tried turning audio ducking on and off with 
no real difference.  I have tried, rebooting voice over, and of course 
rebooting the phone.   , I have also tried holding the home and power button 
down until the apple logo appears.  I am considering doing a reset where the 
option is to reset all settings, not network settings.  I don’t have iTunes 
installed and am reluctant to use it, as it seems not to work well with my 
windows machines. . If I use the “reset all settings” option, will it keep all 
my folders? Will the triple click home still turn voice over on? Will I have to 
log back in to all my apps? Lastly, will this reset fix my sounds?

  This problem has only started having this problem over the last few weeks.  
  Please share answers  on list as this could be helpful to others.  
  many thanks
  Dave
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an app to find key 'of a song

[brian albriton]

is there an app to find what key  a song  is in?

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Re: NFL Game Pass update

[Daniel Miller]

Hopefully this gets fixed in an update to the app, because it’s a bug right 
now. Audio’s not supposed to stop when you lock the screen.

> On Sep 13, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I can confirm this it also stops if you leave the app as well which for me so 
> far is the only way I’ve actually found to stop audio at will.
> Robin
>  
>  
> From: Daniel Miller 
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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>  
> Can either of you confirm or deny that the app breaks the audio when you lock 
> the screen? It’s doing that for me on both my iPhone and iPad.
>  
>> On Sep 13, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Robin Frost > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hey Marie,
>> Have you figured out how to start and stop audio at will in the app?
>> Robin
>>  
>>  
>> From: Marie 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 2:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: NFL Game Pass update
>>  
>> I have the NFL mobile app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of 
>> Game Pass.
>> I am now listening to the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on 
>> my Iphone. First I went to the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted 
>> to hear, I clicked on Seattle and was taken to a page which let me select 
>> which team I wanted to get the stream from and then on Listen Now. It is 
>> working beautifully at the moment. At half time they are tied at 10 apiece.
>> Marie
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Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

[Dave]

tryed all that, and it seems to work for a while, and then it changes again.

and the notification sounds go very loud.

Dave.

From: Marie 
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

another possible solution is to hold the volume up button and swipe around the 
screen. This normally increases the VO volume.
Marie


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

Gi, Dave,


Don't reset your phon just yet. If you haven't done so already, add the volume 
setting to your rotor. You can find that in the Settings app, under 
General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor. After that, turn to volume in your rotor 
and do a one-finger flick up. This will raise your VO volume. Then use your 
volume down button to lower your VO sounds. If your VO volume gets too low 
again, just do another one-finger flick up with your rotor set to volume.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Dave  wrote:


  Hi.

  I am using an iPhone 4s.  I am considering a new phone, but I will keep the 
4s as a back up. I am having trouble with the sounds being really loud and 
voice over is very quiet.  I have tried turning audio ducking on and off with 
no real difference.  I have tried, rebooting voice over, and of course 
rebooting the phone.   , I have also tried holding the home and power button 
down until the apple logo appears.  I am considering doing a reset where the 
option is to reset all settings, not network settings.  I don’t have iTunes 
installed and am reluctant to use it, as it seems not to work well with my 
windows machines. . If I use the “reset all settings” option, will it keep all 
my folders? Will the triple click home still turn voice over on? Will I have to 
log back in to all my apps? Lastly, will this reset fix my sounds?

  This problem has only started having this problem over the last few weeks.  
  Please share answers  on list as this could be helpful to others.  
  many thanks
  Dave
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Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

[Gmail]

Ah. If you want your notification sounds to stay at a constant volume and not 
change, you're going to want to go into Settings/Soumds and turn off the 
setting called Switch with Buttons. It's under the Ringer and Alerts heading.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 13, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> tryed all that, and it seems to work for a while, and then it changes again.
>  
> and the notification sounds go very loud.
>  
> Dave.
>  
> From: Marie
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over
>  
> another possible solution is to hold the volume up button and swipe around 
> the screen. This normally increases the VO volume.
> Marie
>  
>  
> From: Gmail
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over
>  
> Gi, Dave,
>  
>  
> Don't reset your phon just yet. If you haven't done so already, add the 
> volume setting to your rotor. You can find that in the Settings app, under 
> General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor. After that, turn to volume in your 
> rotor and do a one-finger flick up. This will raise your VO volume. Then use 
> your volume down button to lower your VO sounds. If your VO volume gets too 
> low again, just do another one-finger flick up with your rotor set to volume.
>  
>  
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Dave  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>>  
>> I am using an iPhone 4s.  I am considering a new phone, but I will keep the 
>> 4s as a back up. I am having trouble with the sounds being really loud and 
>> voice over is very quiet.  I have tried turning audio ducking on and off 
>> with no real difference.  I have tried, rebooting voice over, and of course 
>> rebooting the phone.   , I have also tried holding the home and power button 
>> down until the apple logo appears.  I am considering doing a reset where the 
>> option is to reset all settings, notnetwork settings.  I don’t have 
>> iTunes installed and am reluctant to use it, as it seems not to work well 
>> with my windows machines. . If I use the “reset all settings” option, will 
>> it keep all my folders? Will the triple click home still turn voice over on? 
>> Will I have to log back in to all my apps? Lastly, will this reset fix my 
>> sounds?
>>  
>> This problem has only started having this problem over the last few weeks. 
>> Please share answers  on list as this could be helpful to others. 
>> many thanks
>> Dave
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Re: NFL Game Pass update

[Rajiv Shah]

Hello,I can confirm that I am able to hear the games using the NFL Mobile app 
on T-Mobile as well.I just tried this afternoon.Rajiv

- Original Message -
From: Marie 
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Sent: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 17:30:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: NFL Game Pass update
The app is on the app store and right now Verizon is offering the service 
for free. Even if you don’t take the Game Pass, you can still get the live 
videos and if you can follow okay from them you can save yourself $99. I am not 
sure I will extend the 7 day trial but will wait until this weekend is over to 
decide. I can also get the games today on Pro Radio with no problems and that 
does not cost me anything. so I am thinking with NFL Mobile and pro Radio I 
have 
two possible choices without paying the ridiculous price of the NFL Game 
Pass.To my knowledge NFL Mobile only works on Verizon.Marie Marie 
From:Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 12:33 
PMTo:mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: NFL Game Pass update Where 
do you get this? From Verizon? The app store? Is 
it the same price from Verizon? Thanks, 
Keith From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 1:27 PM
To: 
viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: NFL Game Pass 
update I have the NFL mobile 
app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of Game 
Pass.I am now listening to 
the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on my Iphone. First I went 
to 
the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted to hear, I clicked on Seattle 
and was taken to a page which let me select which team I wanted to get the 
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RE: NFL Game Pass update

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

So as a Verizon customer, I can watch the video for free, but I can’t listen to 
the radio? Just confirming if my understanding is right. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 4:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL Game Pass update

The app is on the app store and right now Verizon is offering the service for 
free. Even if you don’t take the Game Pass, you can still get the live videos 
and if you can follow okay from them you can save yourself $99. I am not sure I 
will extend the 7 day trial but will wait until this weekend is over to decide. 
I can also get the games today on Pro Radio with no problems and that does not 
cost me anything. so I am thinking with NFL Mobile and pro Radio I have two 
possible choices without paying the ridiculous price of the NFL Game Pass.
To my knowledge NFL Mobile only works on Verizon.
Marie

Marie

From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 12:33 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL Game Pass update

Where do you get this? From Verizon? The app store?

Is it the same price from Verizon?

Thanks, Keith

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 1:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: NFL Game Pass update

I have the NFL mobile app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of 
Game Pass.
I am now listening to the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on my 
Iphone. First I went to the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted to 
hear, I clicked on Seattle and was taken to a page which let me select which 
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beautifully at the moment. At half time they are tied at 10 apiece.
Marie

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Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

[Joney]

It isn't just with voiceover. My daughter, who doesn't use voice over, has the 
same problem. So it's something in the software, not related to voiceover.

Joney 
"If God can bring you to it,
He will  lead you through it."

> On Sep 13, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> you are correct.
>  
> my clicks and notifications and all the other sounds, like when i plug in my 
> charging cable go really loud. but this is variable. sometimes after swiping 
> around a bit, it will stabilize.
>  
> then when i leave my phone alone for a few minutes, and i unlock it, it will 
> start doing the same thing all over again.
>  
> hope this makes sense?
>  
> Dave.
>  
> From: Gmail
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over
>  
> That's going to make his VOO sounds go up, as well, though, which isn't what 
> he wants, if I understood his original message correctly.
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Marie  wrote:
>> 
>> another possible solution is to hold the volume up button and swipe around 
>> the screen. This normally increases the VO volume.
>> Marie
>>  
>>  
>> From: Gmail
>> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over
>>  
>> Gi, Dave,
>>  
>>  
>> Don't reset your phon just yet. If you haven't done so already, add the 
>> volume setting to your rotor. You can find that in the Settings app, under 
>> General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor. After that, turn to volume in your 
>> rotor and do a one-finger flick up. This will raise your VO volume. Then use 
>> your volume down button to lower your VO sounds. If your VO volume gets too 
>> low again, just do another one-finger flick up with your rotor set to volume.
>>  
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>>  
>>> I am using an iPhone 4s.  I am considering a new phone, but I will keep the 
>>> 4s as a back up. I am having trouble with the sounds being really loud and 
>>> voice over is very quiet.  I have tried turning audio ducking on and off 
>>> with no real difference.  I have tried, rebooting voice over, and of course 
>>> rebooting the phone.   , I have also tried holding the home and power 
>>> button down until the apple logo appears.  I am considering doing a reset 
>>> where the option is to reset all settings, not network settings.  I don’t 
>>> have iTunes installed and am reluctant to use it, as it seems not to work 
>>> well with my windows machines. . If I use the “reset all settings” option, 
>>> will it keep all my folders? Will the triple click home still turn voice 
>>> over on? Will I have to log back in to all my apps? Lastly, will this reset 
>>> fix my sounds?
>>>  
>>> This problem has only started having this problem over the last few weeks. 
>>> Please share answers  on list as this could be helpful to others. 
>>> many thanks
>>> Dave
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Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

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> On Sep 13, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> you are correct.
>  
> my clicks and notifications and all the other sounds, like when i plug in my 
> charging cable go really loud. but this is variable. sometimes after swiping 
> around a bit, it will stabilize.
>  
> then when i leave my phone alone for a few minutes, and i unlock it, it will 
> start doing the same thing all over again.
>  
> hope this makes sense?
>  
> Dave.
>  
> From: Gmail
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over
>  
> That's going to make his VOO sounds go up, as well, though, which isn't what 
> he wants, if I understood his original message correctly.
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Marie  wrote:
>> 
>> another possible solution is to hold the volume up button and swipe around 
>> the screen. This normally increases the VO volume.
>> Marie
>>  
>>  
>> From: Gmail
>> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over
>>  
>> Gi, Dave,
>>  
>>  
>> Don't reset your phon just yet. If you haven't done so already, add the 
>> volume setting to your rotor. You can find that in the Settings app, under 
>> General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor. After that, turn to volume in your 
>> rotor and do a one-finger flick up. This will raise your VO volume. Then use 
>> your volume down button to lower your VO sounds. If your VO volume gets too 
>> low again, just do another one-finger flick up with your rotor set to volume.
>>  
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Dave  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>>  
>>> I am using an iPhone 4s.  I am considering a new phone, but I will keep the 
>>> 4s as a back up. I am having trouble with the sounds being really loud and 
>>> voice over is very quiet.  I have tried turning audio ducking on and off 
>>> with no real difference.  I have tried, rebooting voice over, and of course 
>>> rebooting the phone.   , I have also tried holding the home and power 
>>> button down until the apple logo appears.  I am considering doing a reset 
>>> where the option is to reset all settings, not network settings.  I don’t 
>>> have iTunes installed and am reluctant to use it, as it seems not to work 
>>> well with my windows machines. . If I use the “reset all settings” option, 
>>> will it keep all my folders? Will the triple click home still turn voice 
>>> over on? Will I have to log back in to all my apps? Lastly, will this reset 
>>> fix my sounds?
>>>  
>>> This problem has only started having this problem over the last few weeks. 
>>> Please share answers  on list as this could be helpful to others. 
>>> many thanks
>>> Dave
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RE: problem resetting account information

[M. Taylor]

Hello Vicky,

Generally speaking, there are two methods to using a Smartphone screen reader.  
The primary method, more by culture than by anything else, is based on swiping 
from either left to right or right to left in order to place focus on the 
various elements of the display.  

In the early days of iPHone, this was the surest method to make certain that 
the user did not skip or accidentally bypass important information on the 
screen.  

The second method, used primarily by Android Smartphone owners, as a result of 
technology rather than culture, is referred to as explore-by-touch.  This 
method requires that the user slide her/his finger around the screen in order 
to detect the various elements being displayed.

For whatever reason, the swipe method sometimes skips items in iOS in the 
currently released version of the system.  As a result, if one uses only the 
swipe method, he/she may unknowingly skip over important information.  

To deliberately experience this for yourself, do the following:

1.
>From the LaunchPad, single-finger double-tap the Settings icon.  

2.
Now, simply single-finger swipe from left to right as many times as you like to 
go down the list of items.  Take note of what you hear.  I suggest that you 
swipe at least 12 times or so,

3.
Next, single-finger swipe from right to left in order to reverse your 
direction, moving up the list.  Chances are, you will hear more items than you 
did in the first instance.  Some items that are commonly skipped, when going 
down the list are FaceTime, Messages, and Notes.

Vicky, I write all of this to say that I suspect that the reason you are not 
entering all of the required information is because, using the swipe method, 
focus is skipping a required field that must be addressed before successfully 
completing the submission process.  For example, if you are entering a new 
credit card, then the 3-digit security code field may be being skipped by 
VoiceOver, again, using the swipe method only.

So, try using a combination of both the swipe and the explore-by-touch method 
when entering information.  

Good Luck,

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:29 AM
To: IPhone
Subject: problem resetting account information

I need to make a purchase in the app store, and because my account information 
has changed at my bank, I need to reset the information. Everything seems to be 
enter correctly, but I keep getting a message that some required information is 
missing and it is highlighted in red. So I try again and finally after so many 
tries, my session timed out.
 
Before I try again, is there any great secret to resetting the information?
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 
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Re: NFL Game Pass update

[Marie]

The app is on the app store and right now Verizon is offering the service for 
free. Even if you don’t take the Game Pass, you can still get the live videos 
and if you can follow okay from them you can save yourself $99. I am not sure I 
will extend the 7 day trial but will wait until this weekend is over to decide. 
I can also get the games today on Pro Radio with no problems and that does not 
cost me anything. so I am thinking with NFL Mobile and pro Radio I have two 
possible choices without paying the ridiculous price of the NFL Game Pass.
To my knowledge NFL Mobile only works on Verizon.
Marie

Marie

From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 12:33 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: NFL Game Pass update

Where do you get this? From Verizon? The app store?

 

Is it the same price from Verizon?

 

Thanks, Keith

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 1:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: NFL Game Pass update

 

I have the NFL mobile app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of 
Game Pass.

I am now listening to the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on my 
Iphone. First I went to the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted to 
hear, I clicked on Seattle and was taken to a page which let me select which 
team I wanted to get the stream from and then on Listen Now. It is working 
beautifully at the moment. At half time they are tied at 10 apiece.

Marie

 

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Re: For those who want a professional recording input for iPad, Mac, or Windows

[Joe Paton]

I use this interface, and it's excellent.

On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 14:21:11 -0500
"Neal Ewers"  wrote:

 
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Re: NFL Game Pass update

[Daniel Miller]

There seems to be some issues with listening to the games on the mac right now. 
I can’t get that to work either, but got every feed of every game to work just 
fine today. The only issue is you have to set auto lock to never, or else 
you’ve got to keep your screen constantly unlocked.

> On Sep 13, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Rajiv Shah  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> I can confirm that I am able to hear the games using the NFL Mobile app on 
> T-Mobile as well.
> 
> 
> I just tried this afternoon.
> 
> 
> Rajiv
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Marie 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 17:30:10 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: NFL Game Pass update
> 
> The app is on the app store and right now Verizon is offering the service 
> for free. Even if you don’t take the Game Pass, you can still get the live 
> videos and if you can follow okay from them you can save yourself $99. I am 
> not 
> sure I will extend the 7 day trial but will wait until this weekend is over 
> to 
> decide. I can also get the games today on Pro Radio with no problems and that 
> does not cost me anything. so I am thinking with NFL Mobile and pro Radio I 
> have 
> two possible choices without paying the ridiculous price of the NFL Game 
> Pass.
> To my knowledge NFL Mobile only works on Verizon.
> Marie
>  
> Marie
>  
> From:Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 12:33 PM
> To:mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: NFL Game Pass update
>  
> Where 
> do you get this? From Verizon? The app store?
> 
>  
> Is 
> it the same price from Verizon?
> 
>  
> Thanks, 
> Keith
> 
>  
> From: 
> viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Marie
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 1:27 PM
> To: 
> viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: NFL Game Pass 
> update
> 
>  
> I have the NFL mobile 
> app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of Game 
> Pass.
> 
> I am now listening to 
> the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on my Iphone. First I went 
> to 
> the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted to hear, I clicked on Seattle 
> and was taken to a page which let me select which team I wanted to get the 
> stream from and then on Listen Now. It is working beautifully at the moment. 
> At 
> half time they are tied at 10 apiece.
> 
> Marie
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Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

[Dave]

all ready done that. i always have that button turned off.

Dave.

From: Gmail 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

Ah. If you want your notification sounds to stay at a constant volume and not 
change, you're going to want to go into Settings/Soumds and turn off the 
setting called Switch with Buttons. It's under the Ringer and Alerts heading.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 13, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Dave  wrote:


  tryed all that, and it seems to work for a while, and then it changes again.

  and the notification sounds go very loud.

  Dave.

  From: Marie 
  Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:32 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

  another possible solution is to hold the volume up button and swipe around 
the screen. This normally increases the VO volume.
  Marie


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  Gi, Dave,


  Don't reset your phon just yet. If you haven't done so already, add the 
volume setting to your rotor. You can find that in the Settings app, under 
General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor. After that, turn to volume in your rotor 
and do a one-finger flick up. This will raise your VO volume. Then use your 
volume down button to lower your VO sounds. If your VO volume gets too low 
again, just do another one-finger flick up with your rotor set to volume.


  Thanks,
  Ari

  On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Dave  wrote:


Hi.

I am using an iPhone 4s.  I am considering a new phone, but I will keep the 
4s as a back up. I am having trouble with the sounds being really loud and 
voice over is very quiet.  I have tried turning audio ducking on and off with 
no real difference.  I have tried, rebooting voice over, and of course 
rebooting the phone.   , I have also tried holding the home and power button 
down until the apple logo appears.  I am considering doing a reset where the 
option is to reset all settings, not network settings.  I don’t have iTunes 
installed and am reluctant to use it, as it seems not to work well with my 
windows machines. . If I use the “reset all settings” option, will it keep all 
my folders? Will the triple click home still turn voice over on? Will I have to 
log back in to all my apps? Lastly, will this reset fix my sounds?

This problem has only started having this problem over the last few weeks.  
Please share answers  on list as this could be helpful to others.  
many thanks
Dave
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Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

[Shawn Krasniuk]

It sounds like audio ducking is turned off. I had this problem too so when I 
found out that my audio ducking was turned off, I turned it back on and my 
sound volume got fixed.

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> On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> you are correct.
>  
> my clicks and notifications and all the other sounds, like when i plug in my 
> charging cable go really loud. but this is variable. sometimes after swiping 
> around a bit, it will stabilize.
>  
> then when i leave my phone alone for a few minutes, and i unlock it, it will 
> start doing the same thing all over again.
>  
> hope this makes sense?
>  
> Dave.
>  
> From: Gmail 
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over
>  
> That's going to make his VOO sounds go up, as well, though, which isn't what 
> he wants, if I understood his original message correctly.
> 
> On Sep 13, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Marie  > wrote:
> 
>> another possible solution is to hold the volume up button and swipe around 
>> the screen. This normally increases the VO volume.
>> Marie
>>  
>>  
>> From: Gmail 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over
>>  
>> Gi, Dave,
>>  
>>  
>> Don't reset your phon just yet. If you haven't done so already, add the 
>> volume setting to your rotor. You can find that in the Settings app, under 
>> General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor. After that, turn to volume in your 
>> rotor and do a one-finger flick up. This will raise your VO volume. Then use 
>> your volume down button to lower your VO sounds. If your VO volume gets too 
>> low again, just do another one-finger flick up with your rotor set to volume.
>>  
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Dave > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>>  
>>> I am using an iPhone 4s.  I am considering a new phone, but I will keep the 
>>> 4s as a back up. I am having trouble with the sounds being really loud and 
>>> voice over is very quiet.  I have tried turning audio ducking on and off 
>>> with no real difference.  I have tried, rebooting voice over, and of course 
>>> rebooting the phone.   , I have also tried holding the home and power 
>>> button down until the apple logo appears.  I am considering doing a reset 
>>> where the option is to reset all settings, not network settings.  I don’t 
>>> have iTunes installed and am reluctant to use it, as it seems not to work 
>>> well with my windows machines. . If I use the “reset all settings” option, 
>>> will it keep all my folders? Will the triple click home still turn voice 
>>> over on? Will I have to log back in to all my apps? Lastly, will this reset 
>>> fix my sounds?
>>>  
>>> This problem has only started having this problem over the last few weeks. 
>>> Please share answers  on list as this could be helpful to others. 
>>> many thanks
>>> Dave
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Re: an app to find key 'of a song

[Dani Pagador]

http://www.indoorcycleinstructor.com/icipro-instructor-training/harmonic-mixing-class-music-theres-iphone-app/

I Googled "app to find the key of a song" and this came up on the
first page. No idea whether it's VO friendly.

HTH,
Dani

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Re: problem resetting account information

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Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

[Dave]

you are correct.

my clicks and notifications and all the other sounds, like when i plug in my 
charging cable go really loud. but this is variable. sometimes after swiping 
around a bit, it will stabilize.

then when i leave my phone alone for a few minutes, and i unlock it, it will 
start doing the same thing all over again.

hope this makes sense?

Dave.

From: Gmail 
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

That's going to make his VOO sounds go up, as well, though, which isn't what he 
wants, if I understood his original message correctly.

On Sep 13, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Marie  wrote:


  another possible solution is to hold the volume up button and swipe around 
the screen. This normally increases the VO volume.
  Marie


  From: Gmail 
  Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 7:16 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: problems with sounds and voice-over

  Gi, Dave,


  Don't reset your phon just yet. If you haven't done so already, add the 
volume setting to your rotor. You can find that in the Settings app, under 
General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor. After that, turn to volume in your rotor 
and do a one-finger flick up. This will raise your VO volume. Then use your 
volume down button to lower your VO sounds. If your VO volume gets too low 
again, just do another one-finger flick up with your rotor set to volume.


  Thanks,
  Ari

  On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Dave  wrote:


Hi.

I am using an iPhone 4s.  I am considering a new phone, but I will keep the 
4s as a back up. I am having trouble with the sounds being really loud and 
voice over is very quiet.  I have tried turning audio ducking on and off with 
no real difference.  I have tried, rebooting voice over, and of course 
rebooting the phone.   , I have also tried holding the home and power button 
down until the apple logo appears.  I am considering doing a reset where the 
option is to reset all settings, not network settings.  I don’t have iTunes 
installed and am reluctant to use it, as it seems not to work well with my 
windows machines. . If I use the “reset all settings” option, will it keep all 
my folders? Will the triple click home still turn voice over on? Will I have to 
log back in to all my apps? Lastly, will this reset fix my sounds?

This problem has only started having this problem over the last few weeks.  
Please share answers  on list as this could be helpful to others.  
many thanks
Dave
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Re: NFL Game Pass update

[Daniel Miller]

That is correct.

> On Sep 13, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>  wrote:
> 
> So as a Verizon customer, I can watch the video for free, but I can’t listen 
> to the radio? Just confirming if my understanding is right. Keith
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Marie
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 4:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: NFL Game Pass update
>  
> The app is on the app store and right now Verizon is offering the service for 
> free. Even if you don’t take the Game Pass, you can still get the live videos 
> and if you can follow okay from them you can save yourself $99. I am not sure 
> I will extend the 7 day trial but will wait until this weekend is over to 
> decide. I can also get the games today on Pro Radio with no problems and that 
> does not cost me anything. so I am thinking with NFL Mobile and pro Radio I 
> have two possible choices without paying the ridiculous price of the NFL Game 
> Pass.
> To my knowledge NFL Mobile only works on Verizon.
> Marie
>  
> Marie
>  
> From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 12:33 PM
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>  
> Where do you get this? From Verizon? The app store?
>  
> Is it the same price from Verizon?
>  
> Thanks, Keith
>  
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> Subject: NFL Game Pass update
>  
> I have the NFL mobile app from Verizon and signed up for the 7 day trial of 
> Game Pass.
> I am now listening to the live radio stream of the Seattle/St.Louis game on 
> my Iphone. First I went to the Matchup tab, when I found the game I wanted to 
> hear, I clicked on Seattle and was taken to a page which let me select which 
> team I wanted to get the stream from and then on Listen Now. It is working 
> beautifully at the moment. At half time they are tied at 10 apiece.
> Marie
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Re: Looking for an extra battery that includes a lightning connector

[Kathy Brandt]

I have a battery on which is written phone nut, but I believe it's from 
phonesuit.com. It connects well to my 5S, with the case for it that came from 
Apple. I'd say it's just for topping off when you're out, because I believe it 
is only 2600 M AH, but has served me  well, and is great to put in your purse.




> On Sep 13, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brent Harding  wrote:
> 
> Ravpower makes one, and I got that on Amazon. The little cable built in to it 
> isn't more than a couple inches long though, but it does exist, and it works 
> good.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Looking for an extra battery that includes a lightning connector
> 
> 
> I expect you're right, Allen, but I can always hope. I just cannot see 
> hauling around a long cable and plug in the battery when I'm out and about 
> and need to use my phone.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> I suspect finding an external battery with a lightning cable built in is 
>> going to be a long and fruitless search, especially for a high quality 
>> product.
>> 
>> Such an external battery would be limited to idevices since the android 
>> world uses micro USB for charging its products and manufacturers are smart 
>> enough to build their batteries with both full sized USB and micro USB ports 
>> so that with the appropriate cables, users of both iOS and android devices 
>> can use their products. That just makes good economic sense.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 4:59 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There has been a lot of discussion recently on this list about external 
>>> batteries for use with various devices. I would like to find one that has a 
>>> lightning connector built directly into the battery pack. I used to have 
>>> one like that for the old 30 pin connectors. It was a cheap piece of junk 
>>> of course, and I paid the appropriate price. I'm looking for something that 
>>> would be better quality of course, but, I have never seen anything like 
>>> that on say, Amazon. With my for ass and my 5S I have used battery cases. 
>>> But they are quite expensive I think, and what I would like to find is a 
>>> battery pack that I can attach when necessary, and detach when not needed. 
>>> And I don't want to monkey with a cable. If you're out and about and you 
>>> need to attach a battery, you don't need a cable. You just need the battery 
>>> connected to the phone via the connector. Does such exist?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: problem resetting account information

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The App Store is usually looking for a valid 16 digit string, plus the three 
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> On Sep 13, 2015, at 6:28 AM, Vicki  wrote:
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> I need to make a purchase in the app store, and because my account 
> information has changed at my bank, I need to reset the information. 
> Everything seems to be enter correctly, but I keep getting a message that 
> some required information is missing and it is highlighted in red. So I try 
> again and finally after so many tries, my session timed out.
>  
> Before I try again, is there any great secret to resetting the information?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
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My Game Pass update

[Wayne Merritt]

All,
After trying to listen to audio from some of today's games with Game
Pass and being unable to, I have decided to cancel the free trial. I
have tried several times and have even closed and reopened the NFL
Mobile app with no success, as well as signing out and back in. I
tried to listen on my MacBook Pro with the same results. I didn't
receive a confirmation message via email that my trial had begun so I
am not sure it completely went through. On the upside, I have been
able to listen to many games with the low cost options such as Pro
Football Radio and Media and related apps, so I think that I will save
my money and go with these cheaper options. Each time I signed into
the Game Pass site on the Mac I was taken to a page to update my
account information, and when scrolling through it said that there was
no subscription, which makes me think that my  registration did not go
through last night.

For what all that is worth, and your mileage may vary when listening to games.

Wayne

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RE: problem resetting account information

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Re: problem resetting account information

[Christopher Chaltain]

Just to be sure there's no misunderstanding, flicking from left to right 
or right to left does work on Android. I'm not aware myself that Android 
users use explore by touch more than iPhone users, but I know I find it 
invaluable on my iPhone as well and not just to find information that I 
can't get to with flicking. For example, in the Mail app, I know the 
back key is in the upper left hand corner, the previous and next buttons 
are in the upper right hand corner and the delete button is right above 
the home button.


On 09/13/2015 04:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Vicky,

Generally speaking, there are two methods to using a Smartphone screen reader.  
The primary method, more by culture than by anything else, is based on swiping 
from either left to right or right to left in order to place focus on the 
various elements of the display.

In the early days of iPHone, this was the surest method to make certain that 
the user did not skip or accidentally bypass important information on the 
screen.

The second method, used primarily by Android Smartphone owners, as a result of 
technology rather than culture, is referred to as explore-by-touch.  This 
method requires that the user slide her/his finger around the screen in order 
to detect the various elements being displayed.

For whatever reason, the swipe method sometimes skips items in iOS in the 
currently released version of the system.  As a result, if one uses only the 
swipe method, he/she may unknowingly skip over important information.

To deliberately experience this for yourself, do the following:

1.
 From the LaunchPad, single-finger double-tap the Settings icon.

2.
Now, simply single-finger swipe from left to right as many times as you like to 
go down the list of items.  Take note of what you hear.  I suggest that you 
swipe at least 12 times or so,

3.
Next, single-finger swipe from right to left in order to reverse your 
direction, moving up the list.  Chances are, you will hear more items than you 
did in the first instance.  Some items that are commonly skipped, when going 
down the list are FaceTime, Messages, and Notes.

Vicky, I write all of this to say that I suspect that the reason you are not 
entering all of the required information is because, using the swipe method, 
focus is skipping a required field that must be addressed before successfully 
completing the submission process.  For example, if you are entering a new 
credit card, then the 3-digit security code field may be being skipped by 
VoiceOver, again, using the swipe method only.

So, try using a combination of both the swipe and the explore-by-touch method 
when entering information.

Good Luck,

Mark


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Vicki
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:29 AM
To: IPhone
Subject: problem resetting account information

I need to make a purchase in the app store, and because my account information 
has changed at my bank, I need to reset the information. Everything seems to be 
enter correctly, but I keep getting a message that some required information is 
missing and it is highlighted in red. So I try again and finally after so many 
tries, my session timed out.

Before I try again, is there any great secret to resetting the information?

Thanks.

Vicki




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Re: an app to find key 'of a song

[Tom Lange]

Try Key+ by Daniel Casady. It analyzes both digital recordings and live audio 
and gives you the key signature and its relative minor. It is rated 4 plus and 
costs $1.99. 

Tom



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