Re: Ring doorbell app

[Christopher huby]

Hi you can also get it from Amazon as well

Regards 

Christopher huby 



On 1 Aug 2016, at 20:45, grahamnroby via VIPhone  
wrote:

Hi Gina, 

It is easy to get here in. The U.K.  Go to www.ring.com 

They have been.  running a massive advertising campaign  on tv and radio  
including the Bauer stations who I work for. That is how I found out about it!

Best 

Graham 

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> On 31 Jul 2016, at 17:24, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> You do know that Chris of Mystic Access has done a short review. It sounds 
> very good. I would have got one if it was easy to get in the UK.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
>> On 31 Jul 2016, at 13:53, grahamnroby via VIPhone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi sieghard, 
>> 
>> When yours arrives I'd be very interested to know how  you get. on. with it. 
>>   
>> I think this could be of real benefit to our community especially for those 
>> living alone or those with security concerns. 
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 29 Jul 2016, at 23:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I assume so, like I said, I don't have the Ring doorbell yet, but I'm 
>>> pretty sure it's the same as the ring.com website.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: grahamnroby via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 2:44 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Ring doorbell app
>>> 
>>> Hi sieghard, 
>>> Is that  the same as the ring.com app?
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On 28 Jul 2016, at 23:40, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Hi Graham,
 
 I have ordered a Ring Video Doorbell, but since I ordered it using Air 
 Miles reward points it can take a bit longer to arrive, they said 
 something about mid August. Anyhow, once I have it installed I can provide 
 a review.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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 Hi,
 
 Has anyone tried the  ring.com  doorbell app?
 
 Kind regards
 Graham
 
 
 
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Re: Is there a free player for the iPad mini to read audiobooks and other files?

[Carla Savage]

hi Terry, 
You can add files straight from Dropbox. Once you've added Dropbox in the 
settings, go to add on the home screen of Voice Dream Reader. Then, you can 
specify where in Dropbox your file is located. I use this feature all the time 
and it bookmarks my place in the file beautifully. You can't do this from the 
audible app, it's just for downloading audible content. 
Hope this helps, 
Carla. 


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> On 2 Aug 2016, at 3:56 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think you can get files from Dropbox to Audible. Anyhow, if you have 
> Audible content which means you either have or at some point had a 
> subscription, your best experience will be to use the Audible app which is 
> after all a free app as well.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is there a free player for the iPad mini to read audiobooks and 
> other files?
>  
>  
> I'm not sure about free, but Voice Dream Reader will do all of that and more.
> I have not tried adding mp3 files from DropBox to the Audible app, but that 
> might be a possibility and it is free and would remember where you left off.
> Enjoy,
> Richard
>  
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Tomorrow I should receive my new iPad mini. I am planning to put stuff on my 
> iPad mini, using dropbox. This is what I am most comfortable with. However, I 
> was wondering, can I play the MP3 files from with in dropbox?
> If so, I would not be able to leave bookmarks and such, correct?
> Dropbox would not know where I left off in the file? If I am wrong about any 
> of this, somebody please let me know. I am new to all of this.
> 
> If this is true, is there a free audio player I can get for my iPad mini, 
> that will play MP3 files, and other audio files as well?
> I want one that will know when I stop in file, and come back to it, you can 
> start up right where I left off. Is this possible?
> 
> Any help with any of this would be so very much appreciated!
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Is there a free player for the iPad mini to read audiobooks and other files?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don’t think you can get files from Dropbox to Audible. Anyhow, if you have 
Audible content which means you either have or at some point had a 
subscription, your best experience will be to use the Audible app which is 
after all a free app as well.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is there a free player for the iPad mini to read audiobooks and 
other files?


I'm not sure about free, but Voice Dream Reader will do all of that and more.
I have not tried adding mp3 files from DropBox to the Audible app, but that 
might be a possibility and it is free and would remember where you left off.
Enjoy,
Richard

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Terri Stimmel 
> wrote:
Hi everybody,

Tomorrow I should receive my new iPad mini. I am planning to put stuff on my 
iPad mini, using dropbox. This is what I am most comfortable with. However, I 
was wondering, can I play the MP3 files from with in dropbox?
If so, I would not be able to leave bookmarks and such, correct?
Dropbox would not know where I left off in the file? If I am wrong about any of 
this, somebody please let me know. I am new to all of this.

If this is true, is there a free audio player I can get for my iPad mini, that 
will play MP3 files, and other audio files as well?
I want one that will know when I stop in file, and come back to it, you can 
start up right where I left off. Is this possible?

Any help with any of this would be so very much appreciated!

Thank you,

Terri



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RE: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK, so I didn't know this, apparently it can be done, but it seems to require 
jumping through more hoops than one would have to when installing Windows on a 
Mac. Also, the article you provided a link for mentions this:

Before we start, we should tell you that Apple’s licence for OS X expressly 
forbids it being installed on anything other than a Mac, so if you choose to do 
it, don’t say we didn’t warn you.

I was always under the impression people want a Mac because it's considered to 
be better hardware and of course also because of the OS. Therefore I think if 
one wants a Mac then why not buy one instead of trying to recreate an 
experience which in all likelihood won't be as good.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Rajmund
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

Hello,
Well, it can be, but, as I don't think I have a  different hard drive, unless a 
64 GB SD CARD WOULD DO IT,, AND AS I have a 32 bit device, it wouldn't be ever 
so successful. 
http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/how-run-os-x-on-pc-3632329/



Sent from a Braille Sense 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, August 1, 2016 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

>
>
> While you can install Windows on a Mac, I don't think you can install 
> the Mac OS on Windows. As for how, refer to some Apple support 
> articles, AppleVis, or Google.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 8/1/16, Rajmund  wrote:
> > Hello,
> > So, the other topic has inspired me to ask this, but, didn't want to hijack.
> > So, how would one go about installing a 32 bit MacOSX of some kind? 
> > I say 32 bit, as I believe that mywindows 10  laptop is a 32 bit 
> > device. What else do I need other than an image of the MACOSX? And 
> > anyone knows where I could hunt off such a thing? Thanks!
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Re: Is there a free player for the iPad mini to read audiobooks and other files?

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Yes. Voice Dream Reader just copies the file from DropBox, it doesn't move them.
In Voice Dream Reader, in settings, Content Sources, double tap on DropBox, and 
if this is the first time you will need to enter your Dropbox password, or 
maybe just answer yes to enable DropBox, it has been a while since I set it up.
Then, when you are in the main screen, double tap on add, then select Dropbox. 
You may have to also then select a folder in Dropbox where your files are, but 
when you select an mp3 file, it will download it. Then you can play it like any 
book or file.
When you finish and delete it from Voice Dream, it will still be on your 
Dropbox.
I hope that helps.
You also should read the help file, and maybe go to AppleVis and search for 
podcasts on Voice Dream Reader.
Later,
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Terri Stimmel 
> wrote:

Hello Richard, and list

I do have voice dream reader. I paid for it quite a while back. I don't know 
much about it though. I only used it a few times. I must admit, I do not know 
all of it features. Would I be able to take my files and put them into voice 
dream reader?
I don't want to put them in there, and take them directly out of dropbox. I 
think I would rather copied them, if I could. Is that possible?

Thank you so much!

Terri


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:52 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:


I'm not sure about free, but Voice Dream Reader will do all of that and more.
I have not tried adding mp3 files from DropBox to the Audible app, but that 
might be a possibility and it is free and would remember where you left off.
Enjoy,
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Terri Stimmel 
> wrote:

Hi everybody,

Tomorrow I should receive my new iPad mini. I am planning to put stuff on my 
iPad mini, using dropbox. This is what I am most comfortable with. However, I 
was wondering, can I play the MP3 files from with in dropbox?
If so, I would not be able to leave bookmarks and such, correct?
Dropbox would not know where I left off in the file? If I am wrong about any of 
this, somebody please let me know. I am new to all of this.

If this is true, is there a free audio player I can get for my iPad mini, that 
will play MP3 files, and other audio files as well?
I want one that will know when I stop in file, and come back to it, you can 
start up right where I left off. Is this possible?

Any help with any of this would be so very much appreciated!

Thank you,

Terri



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Re: Is there a free player for the iPad mini to read audiobooks and other files?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello Richard, and list

I do have voice dream reader. I paid for it quite a while back. I don't know 
much about it though. I only used it a few times. I must admit, I do not know 
all of it features. Would I be able to take my files and put them into voice 
dream reader?
I don't want to put them in there, and take them directly out of dropbox. I 
think I would rather copied them, if I could. Is that possible?

Thank you so much!

Terri


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:52 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm not sure about free, but Voice Dream Reader will do all of that and more.
> I have not tried adding mp3 files from DropBox to the Audible app, but that 
> might be a possibility and it is free and would remember where you left off.
> Enjoy,
> Richard
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everybody,
>> 
>> Tomorrow I should receive my new iPad mini. I am planning to put stuff on my 
>> iPad mini, using dropbox. This is what I am most comfortable with. However, 
>> I was wondering, can I play the MP3 files from with in dropbox?
>> If so, I would not be able to leave bookmarks and such, correct?
>> Dropbox would not know where I left off in the file? If I am wrong about any 
>> of this, somebody please let me know. I am new to all of this.
>> 
>> If this is true, is there a free audio player I can get for my iPad mini, 
>> that will play MP3 files, and other audio files as well?
>> I want one that will know when I stop in file, and come back to it, you can 
>> start up right where I left off. Is this possible?
>> 
>> Any help with any of this would be so very much appreciated!
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Terri
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Is there a free player for the iPad mini to read audiobooks and other files?

[Richard Turner]

I'm not sure about free, but Voice Dream Reader will do all of that and more.
I have not tried adding mp3 files from DropBox to the Audible app, but that 
might be a possibility and it is free and would remember where you left off.
Enjoy,
Richard


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On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:22 PM, Terri Stimmel 
> wrote:

Hi everybody,

Tomorrow I should receive my new iPad mini. I am planning to put stuff on my 
iPad mini, using dropbox. This is what I am most comfortable with. However, I 
was wondering, can I play the MP3 files from with in dropbox?
If so, I would not be able to leave bookmarks and such, correct?
Dropbox would not know where I left off in the file? If I am wrong about any of 
this, somebody please let me know. I am new to all of this.

If this is true, is there a free audio player I can get for my iPad mini, that 
will play MP3 files, and other audio files as well?
I want one that will know when I stop in file, and come back to it, you can 
start up right where I left off. Is this possible?

Any help with any of this would be so very much appreciated!

Thank you,

Terri



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Is there a free player for the iPad mini to read audiobooks and other files?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hi everybody,

Tomorrow I should receive my new iPad mini. I am planning to put stuff on my 
iPad mini, using dropbox. This is what I am most comfortable with. However, I 
was wondering, can I play the MP3 files from with in dropbox?
If so, I would not be able to leave bookmarks and such, correct?
Dropbox would not know where I left off in the file? If I am wrong about any of 
this, somebody please let me know. I am new to all of this.

If this is true, is there a free audio player I can get for my iPad mini, that 
will play MP3 files, and other audio files as well?
I want one that will know when I stop in file, and come back to it, you can 
start up right where I left off. Is this possible?

Any help with any of this would be so very much appreciated!

Thank you,

Terri



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Re: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Well, it can be, but, as I don't think I have a  different hard drive, unless a 
64 GB SD CARD WOULD DO IT,, AND AS I have a 32 bit device, it wouldn't be ever 
so successful. 
http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/how-run-os-x-on-pc-3632329/



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Subject: Re: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

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>
> While you can install Windows on a Mac, I don't think you can install
> the Mac OS on Windows. As for how, refer to some Apple support
> articles, AppleVis, or Google.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 8/1/16, Rajmund  wrote:
> > Hello,
> > So, the other topic has inspired me to ask this, but, didn't want to hijack.
> > So, how would one go about installing a 32 bit MacOSX of some kind? I say 32
> > bit, as I believe that mywindows 10  laptop is a 32 bit device. What else do
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Re: about new american english voices and VDR

[Rajmund]

Hi, as I'm not sure whether it is a really good idea to discuss betas here, 
write me off list, and I'll answer everything for you. I'd have done it, but 
your email is not showing up.



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>Hello!
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> Olya
> 
> Sendt fra min iPhone
> 
> > Den 1. aug. 2016 kl. 18.41 skrev Gerardo Corripio :
> > 
> > Tom, Susan and a few others
> > 
> > El 01/08/2016 10:51 a.m., 'Olga Koeva' via VIPhone escribió:
> >>Hello Leo!
> >>   Which voices do you mean? I only know Samatha, Alex and the Siri voices. 
> >> Which new voices will come with IOS 10?
> >>Best regards, Olya
> >> 
> >> Sendt fra min iPhone
> >> 
> >>> Den 1. aug. 2016 kl. 16.56 skrev Leo Bado:
> >>> 
> >>> hellow everyone,
> >>> 
> >>> having the new voices that will come with ios 10, could we use them to
> >>> read in voice dream reader?
> >>> 
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Re: sandisk connect wireless

[Paul Richard McGann]

to all,

thank you, scott.

I am back here now. I have question for you.

anyone has experience with sandisk connect wireless? is it friendly to 
blind?


thank you,
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RE: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not possible to my knowledge and not really on topic for an iOS list. You may 
want to try Google or ask on a Mac list.


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Subject: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

Hello,
So, the other topic has inspired me to ask this, but, didn't want to hijack. 
So, how would one go about installing a 32 bit MacOSX of some kind? I say 32 
bit, as I believe that mywindows 10  laptop is a 32 bit device. What else do I 
need other than an image of the MACOSX? And anyone knows where I could hunt off 
such a thing? Thanks! 

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RE: about new american english voices and VDR

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Olya,

Discussion about features of iOS beta software is not something Cara likes on 
this list. I can't see your email address in the header. If you want to send me 
an email directly to siegh...@live.ca I can respond with a bit of information 
although you can find said information also if you Google "new Voiceover voices 
in iOS 10".

Regards,
Sieghard

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   Hello Leo!
  Which voices do you mean? I only know Samatha, Alex and the Siri voices. 
Which new voices will come with IOS 10?
   Best regards, Olya

Sendt fra min iPhone

> Den 1. aug. 2016 kl. 16.56 skrev Leo Bado :
> 
> hellow everyone,
> 
> having the new voices that will come with ios 10, could we use them to 
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> 
> I mean, as we already do with Samantha.
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: test

[Scott Dollar]

Hi Rich,

Yes, you pass the test.  Smile!

Cheers,

Scott Dollar


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just test, please ignore

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Re: test

[Paul Richard McGann]

just test, please ignore

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Re: Ring doorbell app

[Shai]

Hello,
I thought that I would let you know that there is a podcast from
February 2016 on AppleVis published by David Woodbridge which
demonstrates how to install the Ring Video Doorbell and work with
their iOS app. For a review, you may want to check it out.
 Hope that helps

On 7/31/16, grahamnroby via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi sieghard,
>
> When yours arrives I'd be very interested to know how  you get. on. with it.
>
> I think this could be of real benefit to our community especially for those
> living alone or those with security concerns.
>
> Best
>
> Graham
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 29 Jul 2016, at 23:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> I assume so, like I said, I don't have the Ring doorbell yet, but I'm
>> pretty sure it's the same as the ring.com website.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: grahamnroby via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 2:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Ring doorbell app
>>
>> Hi sieghard,
>> Is that  the same as the ring.com app?
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On 28 Jul 2016, at 23:40, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Graham,
>>>
>>> I have ordered a Ring Video Doorbell, but since I ordered it using Air
>>> Miles reward points it can take a bit longer to arrive, they said
>>> something about mid August. Anyhow, once I have it installed I can
>>> provide a review.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>>
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>>> Has anyone tried the  ring.com  doorbell app?
>>>
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RE: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

[Jim Noseworthy]

Try the following URL:

http://www.hackintosh.com/

Good luck.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

While you can install Windows on a Mac, I don't think you can install
the Mac OS on Windows. As for how, refer to some Apple support
articles, AppleVis, or Google.

Wayne

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> So, the other topic has inspired me to ask this, but, didn't want to hijack.
> So, how would one go about installing a 32 bit MacOSX of some kind? I say 32
> bit, as I believe that mywindows 10  laptop is a 32 bit device. What else do
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Re: Leaving groups on Facebook

[Scott Dollar]

Hi Jennie,

You are very welcome.  Smile!  Yes, I do know about the tricks on the Facebook 
because Facebook has change once a while.  Smile!

Cheers,

Scott Dollar


From: Jennie Facer 
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Leaving groups on Facebook

Thanks Scott. That did the trick.
Jenn

Jennie Facer

On Aug 1, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Scott Dollar  wrote:


  Hi,

  While you are in any groups that you are on.  You will need to click on info. 
 While you are in the info area.  Then you will see leave the group.

  Hope this help you.

  Cheers,

  Scott Dollar


  -Original Message- From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
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  Subject: Re: Leaving groups on Facebook

  Go to the bottom of the specific group page where it says Group menu,  and 
one of those links gives details, and one of the details
  is a button to leave the group.

  Not done it in a hwile,  so sorry for being a bit vague.

  R.
  - Original Message - From: "Jennie Facer" 
  To: "'Olga Koeva' via VIPhone" 
  Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 8:53 PM
  Subject: Leaving groups on Facebook


  Hi,

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  Thanks,
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Re: Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

[Wayne Merritt]

While you can install Windows on a Mac, I don't think you can install
the Mac OS on Windows. As for how, refer to some Apple support
articles, AppleVis, or Google.

Wayne

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> Hello,
> So, the other topic has inspired me to ask this, but, didn't want to hijack.
> So, how would one go about installing a 32 bit MacOSX of some kind? I say 32
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> I need other than an image of the MACOSX? And anyone knows where I could
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Re: Leaving groups on Facebook

[Jennie Facer]

Thanks Scott. That did the trick.
Jenn

Jennie Facer

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Scott Dollar  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> While you are in any groups that you are on.  You will need to click on info. 
>  While you are in the info area.  Then you will see leave the group.
> 
> Hope this help you.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Scott Dollar
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Leaving groups on Facebook
> 
> Go to the bottom of the specific group page where it says Group menu,  and 
> one of those links gives details, and one of the details
> is a button to leave the group.
> 
> Not done it in a hwile,  so sorry for being a bit vague.
> 
> R.
> - Original Message - From: "Jennie Facer" 
> To: "'Olga Koeva' via VIPhone" 
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 8:53 PM
> Subject: Leaving groups on Facebook
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> How do I leave a group on Facebook? Thanks for anything you can teach me.
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> Thanks,
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Re: Leaving groups on Facebook

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Hi,

While you are in any groups that you are on.  You will need to click on 
info.  While you are in the info area.  Then you will see leave the group.


Hope this help you.

Cheers,

Scott Dollar


-Original Message- 
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone

Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Leaving groups on Facebook

Go to the bottom of the specific group page where it says Group menu,  and 
one of those links gives details, and one of the details

is a button to leave the group.

Not done it in a hwile,  so sorry for being a bit vague.

R.
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To: "'Olga Koeva' via VIPhone" 
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 8:53 PM
Subject: Leaving groups on Facebook


Hi,

How do I leave a group on Facebook? Thanks for anything you can teach me.

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Re: Leaving groups on Facebook

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Go to the bottom of the specific group page where it says Group menu,  and one 
of those links gives details, and one of the details 
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Not done it in a hwile,  so sorry for being a bit vague.

R.
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To: "'Olga Koeva' via VIPhone" 
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 8:53 PM
Subject: Leaving groups on Facebook


Hi,

How do I leave a group on Facebook? Thanks for anything you can teach me.

Thanks,
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Re: Leaving groups on Facebook

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Hi Jennie,

Please go into any group on your Facebook.

While you are inside a group page, you will need to click on info.  Inside 
the info then you will be able to see leave the group.


Hope this help you.

Cheers,

Scott Dollar


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Subject: Leaving groups on Facebook

Hi,

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Re: Seeing entire message on an iPhone

[Chris Chaffin]

You have to use the rotor and select what you want to read by; character, word, 
or line.
To spell a word out that you do not understand, use characters on the rotor.

Remember once you select what you want to read by on the rotor, just flick down 
to read from left to right, and flick up to go back from right to left.

HTH,

Chris


> On Aug 1, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:
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> What are some gestures to move around the text of a received message so that 
> you can read the entire message?
>  
> And is there a way to spell out a word you cannot understand with VO?
>  
> Thanks for any/all help J
>  
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Leaving groups on Facebook

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

How do I leave a group on Facebook? Thanks for anything you can teach me.

Thanks,
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Re: Ring doorbell app

[grahamnroby via VIPhone]

Hi Gina, 

It is easy to get here in. The U.K.  Go to www.ring.com 

They have been.  running a massive advertising campaign  on tv and radio  
including the Bauer stations who I work for. That is how I found out about it!

Best 

Graham 

Sent from my iPad

> On 31 Jul 2016, at 17:24, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> You do know that Chris of Mystic Access has done a short review. It sounds 
> very good. I would have got one if it was easy to get in the UK.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
>> On 31 Jul 2016, at 13:53, grahamnroby via VIPhone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi sieghard, 
>> 
>> When yours arrives I'd be very interested to know how  you get. on. with it. 
>>   
>> I think this could be of real benefit to our community especially for those 
>> living alone or those with security concerns. 
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 29 Jul 2016, at 23:38, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I assume so, like I said, I don't have the Ring doorbell yet, but I'm 
>>> pretty sure it's the same as the ring.com website.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: grahamnroby via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 2:44 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Ring doorbell app
>>> 
>>> Hi sieghard, 
>>> Is that  the same as the ring.com app?
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On 28 Jul 2016, at 23:40, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Hi Graham,
 
 I have ordered a Ring Video Doorbell, but since I ordered it using Air 
 Miles reward points it can take a bit longer to arrive, they said 
 something about mid August. Anyhow, once I have it installed I can provide 
 a review.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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 Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:06 PM
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 Subject: Ring doorbell app
 
 Hi,
 
 Has anyone tried the  ring.com  doorbell app?
 
 Kind regards
 Graham
 
 
 
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Re: Thermostat confusion.

[Andy Baracco]

If you are talking about thermostats.com the cheaper unit is for single 
stage systems and the model 3000 will work with both single and two stage 
systems.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: englishride...@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.

I went to the website, but couldn't find out a lot of information about 
them. For instance, I'm not really certain what the differences are between 
the two options. Do you know of any podcasts out there that demonstrate 
either thermostat and the app?



Thanks,
Ari


On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

As mentioned it is a Wi-Fi connected thermostat and it has an app. It is 
like the Nest thermostat, a piece of hardware and an app to control it, 
just less expensive and from a different company. I Have had one of these 
at home and 2 at my retail business which has separate furnaces on the 
main floor and first floor and they've been working perfectly for 3 or 4 
years now. I am not saying that Nest is no good, but just mentioned 
www.RadioThermostat.com as an alternative and one that was one of the 
first and I know that in the States you can buy the thermostats at Home 
Depot for around $100; at least I read this in some posts from list 
members who said so.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of englishride...@gmail.com

Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.

I'll have to check out that other thermostat you mentioned. What makes it 
different from the ones I mentioned? Can it interface with my iPhone, like 
the Nest one, or is it just a standalone unit, like the one from Talking 
Thermostats?



Thanks,
Ari


On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Ari,

You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and 
also work very well.
As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set 
it to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may 
get cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat 
to 70 Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will 
cause your air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 
670 degrees, once the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 
or 70 it will turn off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. 
If you set it to 70 degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat 
maintains the 70 degrees by causing the furnace to start up if it gets 
too cold.



Regards,
Sieghard

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Behalf Of englishride...@gmail.com

Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Thermostat confusion.

So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those 
thermostats from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried 
googling this one, but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I 
don't really understand how thermostats work. Not mechanically, but 
practically. What does setting the temperature of the thermostat to 70 
degrees actually mean? And is the answer to that question different when 
you're talking about air conditioning versus heating?



Thanks,
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Re: about new american english voices and VDR

['Olga Koeva' via VIPhone]

   Hello!
  Is Susan from Loquendo or Acapela?
Olya

Sendt fra min iPhone

> Den 1. aug. 2016 kl. 18.41 skrev Gerardo Corripio :
> 
> Tom, Susan and a few others
> 
> El 01/08/2016 10:51 a.m., 'Olga Koeva' via VIPhone escribió:
>>Hello Leo!
>>   Which voices do you mean? I only know Samatha, Alex and the Siri voices. 
>> Which new voices will come with IOS 10?
>>Best regards, Olya
>> 
>> Sendt fra min iPhone
>> 
>>> Den 1. aug. 2016 kl. 16.56 skrev Leo Bado:
>>> 
>>> hellow everyone,
>>> 
>>> having the new voices that will come with ios 10, could we use them to
>>> read in voice dream reader?
>>> 
>>> I mean, as we already do with Samantha.
>>> 
>>> thanks for any info,
>>> 
>>> have a great day!
>>> 
>>> 
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Seeing entire message on an iPhone

[Cher Bosch]

What are some gestures to move around the text of a received message so that
you can read the entire message? 

 

And is there a way to spell out a word you cannot understand with VO?

 

Thanks for any/all help J

 

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Installing OSX on windows as a VM?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
So, the other topic has inspired me to ask this, but, didn't want to hijack. 
So, how would one go about installing a 32 bit MacOSX of some kind? I say 32 
bit, as I believe that mywindows 10  laptop is a 32 bit device. What else do I 
need other than an image of the MACOSX? And anyone knows where I could hunt off 
such a thing? Thanks! 

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Re: Thermostat confusion.

[englishrider91]

I went to the website, but couldn't find out a lot of information about them. 
For instance, I'm not really certain what the differences are between the two 
options. Do you know of any podcasts out there that demonstrate either 
thermostat and the app?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> As mentioned it is a Wi-Fi connected thermostat and it has an app. It is like 
> the Nest thermostat, a piece of hardware and an app to control it, just less 
> expensive and from a different company. I Have had one of these at home and 2 
> at my retail business which has separate furnaces on the main floor and first 
> floor and they've been working perfectly for 3 or 4 years now. I am not 
> saying that Nest is no good, but just mentioned www.RadioThermostat.com as an 
> alternative and one that was one of the first and I know that in the States 
> you can buy the thermostats at Home Depot for around $100; at least I read 
> this in some posts from list members who said so.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> I'll have to check out that other thermostat you mentioned. What makes it 
> different from the ones I mentioned? Can it interface with my iPhone, like 
> the Nest one, or is it just a standalone unit, like the one from Talking 
> Thermostats?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ari,
>> 
>> You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
>> www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
>> work very well. 
>> As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it 
>> to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
>> conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
>> pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get 
>> cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 
>> Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your 
>> air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, 
>> once the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will 
>> turn off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 
>> 70 degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees 
>> by causing the furnace to start up if it gets too cold.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of englishride...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
>> To: VIPhone Email List 
>> Subject: Thermostat confusion.
>> 
>> So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats 
>> from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, 
>> but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand 
>> how thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting 
>> the temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the 
>> answer to that question different when you're talking about air conditioning 
>> versus heating?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
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Re: about new american english voices and VDR

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Tom, Susan and a few others

El 01/08/2016 10:51 a.m., 'Olga Koeva' via VIPhone escribió:

Hello Leo!
   Which voices do you mean? I only know Samatha, Alex and the Siri voices. 
Which new voices will come with IOS 10?
Best regards, Olya

Sendt fra min iPhone


Den 1. aug. 2016 kl. 16.56 skrev Leo Bado:

hellow everyone,

having the new voices that will come with ios 10, could we use them to
read in voice dream reader?

I mean, as we already do with Samantha.

thanks for any info,

have a great day!



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RE: osx on windows computer?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Gianni,

You cannot install any Mac OS on a Windows system. If your computer is getting 
slow and you don’t want to buy a new one I suggest you make sure you have all 
your data backed up to an external drive and to then reinstall Windows from 
scratch. What version of Windows is on that computer now? Do you know how old 
it is and what CPU and amount of memory it has? If it is a Windows 7 computer 
that is 4 or 5 or even 6 years old you may want to consider putting Windows 10 
on it. It is still free to do so even though the official free upgrade offer 
from Microsoft has expired on Friday. However, if you use any accessible 
technology like a screenreader, Microsoft still allows you to upgrade for free 
by going to the following website:

Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade


Microsoft writes: For the general public, the free upgrade offer for Windows 10 
ends on July 29. However, if you use assistive technologies, you can still get 
the free upgrade offer even after the general public deadline expires as 
Microsoft continues our efforts to improve the Windows 10 experience for people 
who use these technologies.



There is also a very informative FS Cast (episode 129) from Jonathan Mosen 
which you can find at

http://www.freedomscientific.com/About/FSCast



Tomorrow a significant Windows 10 upgrade will be released, the first 
anniversary update, and I can definitely recommend Windows 10 even on older 
machines. I am currently using a PC which has a CPU that predates even the 
first generation I3/I5/I7 processors. It has a relatively low-end Intel Core 2 
Duo CPU, model E7400 at a clockspeed of 2.80GHz with 4 Gb of RAM and it was 
one of my PC’s at my store which I replaced, but after reinstalling it with 
Windows 10 it’s been running very well for me at home. This processor was first 
released in 2008 and I can’t remember if I bought that computer late in 2008 or 
in 2009, but it’s at least 6 or 7 years old. I put Windows 10 Professional 64 
Bit on it.



Regards,
Sieghard

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Friends, I have a windows computer who is getting slow, but can I install osx 
on it? If yes, how?

Gianni

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Re: about new american english voices and VDR

['Olga Koeva' via VIPhone]

   Hello Leo!
  Which voices do you mean? I only know Samatha, Alex and the Siri voices. 
Which new voices will come with IOS 10?
   Best regards, Olya

Sendt fra min iPhone

> Den 1. aug. 2016 kl. 16.56 skrev Leo Bado :
> 
> hellow everyone,
> 
> having the new voices that will come with ios 10, could we use them to 
> read in voice dream reader?
> 
> I mean, as we already do with Samantha.
> 
> thanks for any info,
> 
> have a great day!
> 
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about new american english voices and VDR

[Leo Bado]

hellow everyone,

having the new voices that will come with ios 10, could we use them to 
read in voice dream reader?

I mean, as we already do with Samantha.

thanks for any info,

have a great day!



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FS: Thuraya SatSleeve and repeater kit, all in never used condition.

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hello all,
I have here, a never used, so in good as new condition satSleeve, with indoor 
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The perfect blend of mobility and simplicity, the Thuraya SatSleeve is the 
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osx on windows computer?

[Gianni]

Friends, I have a windows computer who is getting slow, but can I install osx 
on it? If yes, how?


Gianni

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Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was "Questions regarding the IPod"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't have a copy or a bookmark, but a web search lead to 
http://mosen.org/6p/


On 01/08/16 01:27, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote:

Anyone got a copy of that article or can give me a direct URL, please?


Thanks!


Carol P - UK



On 01/08/2016 04:10, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I have a Samsung S7 Active, and I didn't have any trouble installing
Talk Back or using it. The S7 replaced my iPhone as my every day
device, and it was Jonathan Mosen's article that convinced me to make
the switch.

On 31/07/16 16:39, Mary Otten wrote:

I don't own a Samsung device, but I know there are plenty of people who
have installed talkback on the S7, so I know it's possible. I'm sorry
you weren't able to do that. Many people find it satisfactory. Depends
on your use case. That's an expensive device. For that kind of money, I
would just assume have an iPhone.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2016, at 2:23 PM, Gordan Radić > wrote:


Right.

I was testing Samsung Galaxy S7 for two weeks and I wasn't satisfied
with accessibility solutions. As you probably know, Samsung flagship
models has its own screen reader called Voice Assistant and in some
situations it works worse than the Google Talkback on other phones. I
wasn't able to install Talkback on S7, probably because it is disabled
somewhere so I can't tell how it works on that device.

I wrote a detailed reviewon it for my website but it is unfortunately
in my own language so I'll just sumarize the conclusion part.

From sighted point of view comparing Galaxy S7 and iPhone 6S is just
as comparing Mercedes and BMW.

From partially sighted corner S7 has some advantages since there are
tones of look and feel customizations, zooming accessibility options
and of course, a gallery of visual themes from the Gallaxy Store.

But, talking from the blind perspective, Samsung and Google have a lot
to learn about accessibility from Apple.


*Gordan Radić* 

 

  
 


31.7.2016. u 20:22, Mary Otten je napisao/la:

It's definitely a lot better than it used to be. Reading Jonathan's
blog article would be a good place to start in my opinion. It is
hard to find truly unbiased people, because everybody has a bias.
They have their own use cases. They have things that are more
important to them. I still say, if you want to buy a device and
just use it without messing with it, iOS still has a definite
advantage. But android accessibility has made lots of strides, less
so if you need braille  support and are going to be relying on
braille back. On the other hand, the cost of Apple products is
quite high and out of the reach of many people. So the fact that
android accessibility is improving, and the fact that you can get a
good android device for less than the cost of a comparable iPhone
is a good thing.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 31, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Krister Ekstrom
 wrote:

Lately it has crossed my mind that i want to test Android, just to
see how much closer it is to iPhone. Yes i know it’s a sinn to
think this way, for thou shalt not have any other operating
systems besides iOs, still i want to know how good it is before i
totally bash it.:-) It’s good to know a products strengths and
weeknesses right?
/Krister


31 juli 2016 kl. 18:35 skrev Rajmund :

Hi, Besides, some of us, like myself, hate the OS, putting
accessibility aside. I'll get one to play with, but not to
replace anything.



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Krister Ekstrom  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you
think [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]


And what about upgradability? Not all Android devices support or
have the latest versions and not all can support them which
means that we have even more special questions to ask the
dealers who probably won't know because they are in big chains
and they only sell, they do not know a thing about what they
sell and definitely no blindness specific stuff. At least that's
the way in Sweden now.
/Krister


31 juli 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev Russ Kiehne :

That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use
on my ipad mini?

It's my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better
on the ipad than on a android device?

From: Kevin Chao 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than
you think [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]

Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience
matches iOS 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas.
I'll agree that earlier Android 

Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was "Questions regarding the IPod"]

[Robert Hill]

Hi Krister,

If you go to mosen.org and look for the blog link, you'll find it there.

Bob Hill




Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2 

- Original Message -
From: Krister Ekstrom  
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Monday, August 1, 2016 4:40 am
Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was 
"Questions regarding the IPod"]

>
>
> Do you have the direct link to Jonathans article?
> /Krister
> 
> 31 juli 2016 kl. 20:22 skrev Mary Otten :
> 
> It's definitely a lot better than it used to be. Reading Jonathan's blog 
> article would be a good place to start in my opinion. It is hard to find 
> truly unbiased people, because everybody has a bias. They have their own use 
> cases. They have things that are more important to them. I still say, if you 
> want to buy a device and just use it without messing with it, iOS still has a 
> definite advantage. But android accessibility has made lots of strides, less 
> so if you need braille  support and are going to be relying on braille back. 
> On the other hand, the cost of Apple products is quite high and out of the 
> reach of many people. So the fact that android accessibility is improving, 
> and the fact that you can get a good android device for less than the cost of 
> a comparable iPhone is a good thing.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Lately it has crossed my mind that i want to test Android, just to see how 
>> much closer it is to iPhone. Yes i know it's a sinn to think this way, for 
>> thou shalt not have any other operating systems besides iOs, still i want to 
>> know how good it is before i totally bash it.:-) It's good to know a 
>> products strengths and weeknesses right?
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 31 juli 2016 kl. 18:35 skrev Rajmund :
>>> 
>>> Hi, Besides, some of us, like myself, hate the OS, putting accessibility 
>>> aside. I'll get one to play with, but not to replace anything. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Krister Ekstrom  
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:44 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was 
>>> "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]
>>> 
 
 
 And what about upgradability? Not all Android devices support or have the 
 latest versions and not all can support them which means that we have even 
 more special questions to ask the dealers who probably won't know because 
 they are in big chains and they only sell, they do not know a thing about 
 what they sell and definitely no blindness specific stuff. At least that's 
 the way in Sweden now.
 /Krister
 
> 31 juli 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev Russ Kiehne :
> 
> That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use on my ipad 
> mini?
> 
> It's my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better on the ipad 
> than on a android device?
> 
> From: Kevin Chao 
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think 
> [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]
> 
> Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience matches 
> iOS 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas.
> I'll agree that earlier Android accessibility was sub-optimal  and had a 
> lot to be desired, but I'd encourage screen reader users to try modern 
> Android TalkBack. You'll be pleasantly surprised, but to be fair it is 
> difficult to let go of legacy experiences one may have.
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM Terri Stimmel 
>> > wrote:
>> Hello there Christopher,
>> 
>> Thank you for giving you giving me your dots and opinions on android 
>> tablets and phones. I really appreciate it. That was very kind of you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, I am not at all interested in having an android cabinet. I 
>> tried one a few months ago, and I really dislike it. Before that, I had 
>> an earlier version of a tablet, and I really dislike that as well. At 
>> one point, along time ago, I had an android phone, and I never like that 
>> thing. I know some people love android products, and that is there 
>> right, and their choice. But I am not one of them. I know my iPhone, and 
>> other Apple products, can have their limitations. But I can live with 
>> those limitations. But thank you again for giving me your thoughts on 
>> this matter. I do appreciate it.
>> 
>> Terri
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 

Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was "Questions regarding the IPod"]

[Krister Ekstrom]

Do you have the direct link to Jonathans article?
/Krister

> 31 juli 2016 kl. 20:22 skrev Mary Otten :
> 
> It's definitely a lot better than it used to be. Reading Jonathan's blog 
> article would be a good place to start in my opinion. It is hard to find 
> truly unbiased people, because everybody has a bias. They have their own use 
> cases. They have things that are more important to them. I still say, if you 
> want to buy a device and just use it without messing with it, iOS still has a 
> definite advantage. But android accessibility has made lots of strides, less 
> so if you need braille  support and are going to be relying on braille back. 
> On the other hand, the cost of Apple products is quite high and out of the 
> reach of many people. So the fact that android accessibility is improving, 
> and the fact that you can get a good android device for less than the cost of 
> a comparable iPhone is a good thing.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Lately it has crossed my mind that i want to test Android, just to see how 
>> much closer it is to iPhone. Yes i know it’s a sinn to think this way, for 
>> thou shalt not have any other operating systems besides iOs, still i want to 
>> know how good it is before i totally bash it.:-) It’s good to know a 
>> products strengths and weeknesses right?
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 31 juli 2016 kl. 18:35 skrev Rajmund :
>>> 
>>> Hi, Besides, some of us, like myself, hate the OS, putting accessibility 
>>> aside. I'll get one to play with, but not to replace anything. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Krister Ekstrom  
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:44 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was 
>>> "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]
>>> 
 
 
 And what about upgradability? Not all Android devices support or have the 
 latest versions and not all can support them which means that we have even 
 more special questions to ask the dealers who probably won't know because 
 they are in big chains and they only sell, they do not know a thing about 
 what they sell and definitely no blindness specific stuff. At least that's 
 the way in Sweden now.
 /Krister
 
> 31 juli 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev Russ Kiehne :
> 
> That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use on my ipad 
> mini?
> 
> It's my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better on the ipad 
> than on a android device?
> 
> From: Kevin Chao 
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think 
> [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]
> 
> Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience matches 
> iOS 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas.
> I'll agree that earlier Android accessibility was sub-optimal  and had a 
> lot to be desired, but I'd encourage screen reader users to try modern 
> Android TalkBack. You'll be pleasantly surprised, but to be fair it is 
> difficult to let go of legacy experiences one may have.
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM Terri Stimmel 
>> > wrote:
>> Hello there Christopher,
>> 
>> Thank you for giving you giving me your dots and opinions on android 
>> tablets and phones. I really appreciate it. That was very kind of you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, I am not at all interested in having an android cabinet. I 
>> tried one a few months ago, and I really dislike it. Before that, I had 
>> an earlier version of a tablet, and I really dislike that as well. At 
>> one point, along time ago, I had an android phone, and I never like that 
>> thing. I know some people love android products, and that is there 
>> right, and their choice. But I am not one of them. I know my iPhone, and 
>> other Apple products, can have their limitations. But I can live with 
>> those limitations. But thank you again for giving me your thoughts on 
>> this matter. I do appreciate it.
>> 
>> Terri
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> There's a lot of good reasons not to get an Android tablet, one of 
>>> which is that you may not want to learn another interface and screen 
>>> reader, but it's getting hard to say that Android tablets aren't very 
>>> accessible. Jonathan Mosen has a good 

Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was "Questions regarding the IPod"]

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

No, this is one thread on the comparison topic relating iOs and Android.
I'm told, quite often, one can delete threads we don't like.
Bet I'm the one who gets flack for saying so.

Actually, I thought this had come from the Android list.

R!
- Original Message - 
From: "MamaPeach" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was 
"Questions regarding the IPod"]


I thought this was a list for iDevices. All I have seen lately is talk of the 
accessibility of Android devices. Isn’t there another 
list for this, such as the Eyes Free list?

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RE: unable to tweet

[M. Taylor]

Hello David,

The email address for Twitter support is supp...@twitter.com

David, have you logged into your Twitter account from a web browser and 
composed a tweet from their?  

Also, I would suggest that you create a new Twitter account and see how it 
works for you as your current account may have been compromised in some way.

One more thing, if you know someone with an iOS device that you trust, attempt 
to login to your account on her/his device and compose a tweet.  

The idea here is that you must isolate the problem and the best way to do this 
is to assume that the issue is something local.  

Mark
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Subject: unable to tweet

Again I am unable tto originate and send tweets on both the native twitter app, 
and the twitteriffic. app.
If anyone knows e mail addresses for either or both developers,  it. is 
appreciated.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was "Questions regarding the IPod"]

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Anyone got a copy of that article or can give me a direct URL, please?


Thanks!


Carol P - UK



On 01/08/2016 04:10, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I have a Samsung S7 Active, and I didn't have any trouble installing 
Talk Back or using it. The S7 replaced my iPhone as my every day 
device, and it was Jonathan Mosen's article that convinced me to make 
the switch.


On 31/07/16 16:39, Mary Otten wrote:

I don't own a Samsung device, but I know there are plenty of people who
have installed talkback on the S7, so I know it's possible. I'm sorry
you weren't able to do that. Many people find it satisfactory. Depends
on your use case. That's an expensive device. For that kind of money, I
would just assume have an iPhone.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2016, at 2:23 PM, Gordan Radić > wrote:


Right.

I was testing Samsung Galaxy S7 for two weeks and I wasn't satisfied
with accessibility solutions. As you probably know, Samsung flagship
models has its own screen reader called Voice Assistant and in some
situations it works worse than the Google Talkback on other phones. I
wasn't able to install Talkback on S7, probably because it is disabled
somewhere so I can't tell how it works on that device.

I wrote a detailed reviewon it for my website but it is unfortunately
in my own language so I'll just sumarize the conclusion part.

From sighted point of view comparing Galaxy S7 and iPhone 6S is just
as comparing Mercedes and BMW.

From partially sighted corner S7 has some advantages since there are
tones of look and feel customizations, zooming accessibility options
and of course, a gallery of visual themes from the Gallaxy Store.

But, talking from the blind perspective, Samsung and Google have a lot
to learn about accessibility from Apple.


*Gordan Radić* 

 

  
 


31.7.2016. u 20:22, Mary Otten je napisao/la:
It's definitely a lot better than it used to be. Reading Jonathan's 
blog article would be a good place to start in my opinion. It is 
hard to find truly unbiased people, because everybody has a bias. 
They have their own use cases. They have things that are more 
important to them. I still say, if you want to buy a device and 
just use it without messing with it, iOS still has a definite 
advantage. But android accessibility has made lots of strides, less 
so if you need braille  support and are going to be relying on 
braille back. On the other hand, the cost of Apple products is 
quite high and out of the reach of many people. So the fact that 
android accessibility is improving, and the fact that you can get a 
good android device for less than the cost of a comparable iPhone 
is a good thing.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Krister Ekstrom 
 wrote:


Lately it has crossed my mind that i want to test Android, just to 
see how much closer it is to iPhone. Yes i know it’s a sinn to 
think this way, for thou shalt not have any other operating 
systems besides iOs, still i want to know how good it is before i 
totally bash it.:-) It’s good to know a products strengths and 
weeknesses right?

/Krister


31 juli 2016 kl. 18:35 skrev Rajmund :

Hi, Besides, some of us, like myself, hate the OS, putting 
accessibility aside. I'll get one to play with, but not to 
replace anything.




Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Krister Ekstrom  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you 
think [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]


And what about upgradability? Not all Android devices support or 
have the latest versions and not all can support them which 
means that we have even more special questions to ask the 
dealers who probably won't know because they are in big chains 
and they only sell, they do not know a thing about what they 
sell and definitely no blindness specific stuff. At least that's 
the way in Sweden now.

/Krister


31 juli 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev Russ Kiehne :

That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use 
on my ipad mini?


It's my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better 
on the ipad than on a android device?


From: Kevin Chao 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than 
you think [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]


Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience 
matches iOS 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas.
I'll agree that earlier Android accessibility was sub-optimal  
and had a lot to be desired, but I'd encourage screen reader