Hi Krister, If you go to mosen.org and look for the blog link, you'll find it there.
Bob Hill Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com CC: Date: Monday, August 1, 2016 4:40 am Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was "Questions regarding the IPod"] > > > Do you have the direct link to Jonathans article? > /Krister > > 31 juli 2016 kl. 20:22 skrev Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com>: > > It's definitely a lot better than it used to be. Reading Jonathan's blog > article would be a good place to start in my opinion. It is hard to find > truly unbiased people, because everybody has a bias. They have their own use > cases. They have things that are more important to them. I still say, if you > want to buy a device and just use it without messing with it, iOS still has a > definite advantage. But android accessibility has made lots of strides, less > so if you need braille support and are going to be relying on braille back. > On the other hand, the cost of Apple products is quite high and out of the > reach of many people. So the fact that android accessibility is improving, > and the fact that you can get a good android device for less than the cost of > a comparable iPhone is a good thing. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 31, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> >> wrote: >> >> Lately it has crossed my mind that i want to test Android, just to see how >> much closer it is to iPhone. Yes i know it's a sinn to think this way, for >> thou shalt not have any other operating systems besides iOs, still i want to >> know how good it is before i totally bash it.:-) It's good to know a >> products strengths and weeknesses right? >> /Krister >> >>> 31 juli 2016 kl. 18:35 skrev Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com>: >>> >>> Hi, Besides, some of us, like myself, hate the OS, putting accessibility >>> aside. I'll get one to play with, but not to replace anything. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from a Braille Sense >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Date: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:44 pm >>> Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was >>> "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"] >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> And what about upgradability? Not all Android devices support or have the >>>> latest versions and not all can support them which means that we have even >>>> more special questions to ask the dealers who probably won't know because >>>> they are in big chains and they only sell, they do not know a thing about >>>> what they sell and definitely no blindness specific stuff. At least that's >>>> the way in Sweden now. >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>>> 31 juli 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>> That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use on my ipad >>>>> mini? >>>>> >>>>> It's my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better on the ipad >>>>> than on a android device? >>>>> >>>>> From: Kevin Chao <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:33 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think >>>>> [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"] >>>>> >>>>> Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience matches >>>>> iOS 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas. >>>>> I'll agree that earlier Android accessibility was sub-optimal and had a >>>>> lot to be desired, but I'd encourage screen reader users to try modern >>>>> Android TalkBack. You'll be pleasantly surprised, but to be fair it is >>>>> difficult to let go of legacy experiences one may have. >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM Terri Stimmel >>>>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote: >>>>>> Hello there Christopher, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for giving you giving me your dots and opinions on android >>>>>> tablets and phones. I really appreciate it. That was very kind of you. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> However, I am not at all interested in having an android cabinet. I >>>>>> tried one a few months ago, and I really dislike it. Before that, I had >>>>>> an earlier version of a tablet, and I really dislike that as well. At >>>>>> one point, along time ago, I had an android phone, and I never like that >>>>>> thing. I know some people love android products, and that is there >>>>>> right, and their choice. But I am not one of them. I know my iPhone, and >>>>>> other Apple products, can have their limitations. But I can live with >>>>>> those limitations. But thank you again for giving me your thoughts on >>>>>> this matter. I do appreciate it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Terri >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's a lot of good reasons not to get an Android tablet, one of >>>>>>> which is that you may not want to learn another interface and screen >>>>>>> reader, but it's getting hard to say that Android tablets aren't very >>>>>>> accessible. Jonathan Mosen has a good article talking about his >>>>>>> experience with an Android phone, and based on that article, and some >>>>>>> other reasons, I got a Samsung S7 Active to go along with my Nexus 7 >>>>>>> tablet. The iPhone definitely has it's strengths, but depending on what >>>>>>> you do with the phone, an Android phone or tablet is quite accessible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 27/07/16 15:24, Terri Stimmel wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello everybody, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, I will not be getting an iPod after all. >>>>>>>> I called AT&T, to see when I could upgrade my phone. I want more >>>>>>>> memory on my phone. I was told I could upgrade in February. I don't >>>>>>>> know if I will upgrade now. But I might. Anyway, when I was talking to >>>>>>>> the lady, she told me that they were running a great promotion on >>>>>>>> tablets. I told her then I would blind, and that I did not want an >>>>>>>> android tablet because I didn't feel they were very accessible. >>>>>>>> So she looked to see what she could offer me. She said she could offer >>>>>>>> me an iPad mini, but it was the second generation. I don't know much >>>>>>>> about iPads, so I asked her what the latest generation was. She told >>>>>>>> me the latest generation wasn't for. So I told her that's what I >>>>>>>> wanted. I know I will be paying on it for a while, but the payments >>>>>>>> were small. So I decided to go with the 64 gig model. I thought that >>>>>>>> would give me plenty of space to do whatever I wanted to do. I got it >>>>>>>> in silver. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It should arrive in about five days. I'm very excited about this! No I >>>>>>>> don't feel so over whelmed, when it comes to making a decision as to >>>>>>>> what kind of device to get, or not to get. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In a little while, I will write a post and ask about iPads. Like I >>>>>>>> said, I don't know much about them. So I need to learn some things. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you all for all of the help and support. I really appreciate it >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you, and have a great day! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Terri >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Carol Forrester >>>>>>>>> <carol.l.forres...@me.com <mailto:carol.l.forres...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 27 Jul 2016, at 19:52, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Terri, >>>>>>>>>> Other places other than Apple offer refurbished iPods. I got both >>>>>>>>>> of my kids refurbished 5th generation iPods a couple of years ago >>>>>>>>>> from Walmart. I have also seen used or refurbished iPods at places >>>>>>>>>> like Best Buy and Amazon. Just go to their site and do a search for >>>>>>>>>> Refurbished iPod and see what comes up. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For audio books and movies, I would also recommend dropbox to help >>>>>>>>>> free up some space on your phone. Dropbox is a great storage >>>>>>>>>> solution when you do not have a lot of space on your phone. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Terri Stimmel >>>>>>>>>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,Sieghard >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for letting me know this. I was wondering if she had >>>>>>>>>>> given me incorrect information. So I did more research into it. It >>>>>>>>>>> wasn't easy to find, honestly. But I did discover he was incorrect. >>>>>>>>>>> I am at a loss as to what to do. I really don't want to devices. I >>>>>>>>>>> mean, that does seem kind of silly. I know why people do it, and I >>>>>>>>>>> know why I want to do it. But I don't really have the money to put >>>>>>>>>>> in to buying a brand-new iPod, and they do have refurbished one. >>>>>>>>>>> That was supposed to be, they do not have refurbished ones. I just >>>>>>>>>>> want to be able to enjoy my shows and stuff, without having a lot >>>>>>>>>>> of distractions. But then when I worry I'm not getting my texts or >>>>>>>>>>> things of that nature, I get concerned and I am missing important >>>>>>>>>>> things. Sometimes I am, and sometimes I'm not. I wish I had >>>>>>>>>>> purchased an iPhone with more memory. But I can't upgrade for a >>>>>>>>>>> while now. Mine only has 16 gigs, but it looks more like I only >>>>>>>>>>> have about 11 gigs every level. I think the last time I looked I >>>>>>>>>>> had a little over five gigs of space. So that is hard to work with. >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to put audiobooks, and some music, and some other >>>>>>>>>>> stuff on my phone. But I haven't used iTunes in a long time, and I >>>>>>>>>>> am not fond of it. When I did use it, I hated it! But I know I am not the only one that feels this way. So maybe I will use dropbox after all, at least as much as I can. Well I appreciate you and the list listening to me ramble. I just needed to get this stuff said. I guess I will stick with just my iPhone for now. Maybe I could take some applications off of it that I really don't use, and that might give me more space. I don't know. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Terri >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terri, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> She gave you wrong information, they said in the keynote when iOS >>>>>>>>>>>> 10 was introduced that the only iPod that can run iOS 10 is the >>>>>>>>>>>> iPod sixth generation. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:38 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Someone suggested that I look on the Apple website, to see if I >>>>>>>>>>>> could find a refurbished model. For either the fifth generation, >>>>>>>>>>>> or the sixth generation. So I did this. When I couldn't find >>>>>>>>>>>> anything, I decided to call Apple. I spoke with a very nice lady >>>>>>>>>>>> who told me that they had not had any refurbished models for at >>>>>>>>>>>> least a couple of months now. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I asked her if you knew whether or not the fifth generation would >>>>>>>>>>>> support iOS 10. She said that it would. >>>>>>>>>>>> So now I am rather confused why summer you feel that it won't. >>>>>>>>>>>> Where have you read this, or heard this? Why would that lady be >>>>>>>>>>>> wrong? >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying she is or isn't, it's just something I'm curious >>>>>>>>>>>> about. I want to learn more about this, so I understand this. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Terri >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There's also the chance that when the new devices come out this >>>>>>>>>>>>> fal, >>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPod 6th gen may drop in price. I don't know if Apple will >>>>>>>>>>>>> update >>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPod line, just throwing something out. While having the >>>>>>>>>>>>> latest >>>>>>>>>>>>> and greatest may not be important for you, realize that as time >>>>>>>>>>>>> goes >>>>>>>>>>>>> by, certain new features may not be available. I would also advise >>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting a few months to see what happens with new hardware and >>>>>>>>>>>>> price >>>>>>>>>>>>> ddrops, but if you really don't mind having older equipment, then >>>>>>>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>>>>>>> for it. Yes you should be able to update your apps, but again, if >>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>> add features which your hardeware does not support, then you will >>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to use those features. Also, from time to time apps drop >>>>>>>>>>>>> support for older hardware in order to stay current. I don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>> this will happen with the iPod 5th gen, but it is possible. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wayne >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/16, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is hard to say, but I have had some apps come out with updates >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I could not get since I was not running the most recent >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of ios. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So after ios 10 comes out, the apps you are using might still >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ios 9 at first, but after a while they will probably drop that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You could always run the version you had currently on your iPod, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is no guarantee that you will always be able to update to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> most recent version of the app, especially since the iPod 5 will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be supported by ios 10. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if having the most recent version of the app is important to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then you should maybe wait, continue to save until you could get >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an iPod 6. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Terri Stimmel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone who has contacted me, regarding my iPod touch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really appreciate it. I know I should probably buy the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod. But the money just isn't there right now. Plus I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do everything. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also realize that I could put stuff on my phone, and listen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that way. But I honestly don't have a lot of space left on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a 16 gig model and I think it have about five gigs of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left. I know I could put it on disturb also. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I don't really want to do that, because I get some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important texts and calls during the day. So I wouldn't want to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those, because the Phone was on do not disturb. So this is why I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have decided to go with this generation iPod. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Long as I am able to do what I want with it, and that is fine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me. Now here is my question. If my application such as, Spotify, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tuna in, 50 radio Pro, and maybe a couple others I can't think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the moment, I have updates, when I likely still be able to get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updates? That is my biggest concern! I would really appreciated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone could answer that for me. I don't mind if I cannot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upgrade >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> past nine. I don't see why that would matter to me, unless it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a point where I could not do my update for my application. Then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would definitely be a problem. Thank you for all the help so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really does mean a lot to me. Sorry this message is a little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sloppy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using dictation. I have never learned how to correct my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistakes, when using dictation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TerriSent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <siegh...@live..ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terri, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Christopher already said, the only iPod that can run iOS 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be the sixth generation, the fifth generation stops at iOS 9. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not a big concern for now if all you want to do is run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spotify, listen to Audio books and so on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think it's a waste of money, if you don't want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notifications while you listen to a book or music just bring up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SIRI and say "Turn on Do Not Disturb". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as getting stuff onto the iPod Touch it is identical to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an iPhone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you can use Dropbox or any number of other cloud services >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access stuff inside their apps, but if you want the music app >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes is the only way and if you avoid iTunes with your iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then you will also avoid it with the iPod Touch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I started out with an iPod Touch in 2009 and then got the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2010. A month or two after I got the iPhone I sold my iPod >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Touch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it was just sitting in the drawer. The same happened >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I bought my 6S. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I kept my 5S at the time and thought maybe I use it at home for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audible and stuff like that, but I just never did because I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use one device instead of two which essentially do the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of christopher hallsworth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:37 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct. iPhone 5 and later, iPad 4, iPad Mini 2 and later, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pro both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 and 9.7-inch and iPod Touch 6th Generation will all run iOS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2016, at 16:01, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's my understanding some of the older devices will be able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run Ios 10. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:34 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Questions regarding the IPod >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terry, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to Amazon.com the new 32 gig iPod Touch 6th gen is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selling for $242. There are used models listing for as little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as $174. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using some sort of cloud backup such as Dropbox to transfer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in and out of your iPod will be very slow as you will have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload the large files to Dropbox then download them into your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod Touch. Learning to use iTunes will make this process >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much faster--when iTunes becomes more user friendly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should really, really try to get the newer 6th generation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because if you buy the older 5th gen it will be of little use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you going forward since it will no longer be upgradeable to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions of iOS--you'll be stuck with iOS 9 the remainder of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time you own this device--you will regret it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the Amazon.com link: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazon.com: Apple iPod touch 32GB Blue (6th Generation): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Electronics - https://is.gd/XjWxoW <https://is.gd/XjWxoW> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:00 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Richard, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for your advice. I really appreciate it. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait and save up money to get the six generation model, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard for me to save up money. So that is why I am taking what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get. Maybe there is not the greatest idea. But I know if I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait for a while, the prices for the sixth generation will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully go down. So by then, maybe I will be able to afford >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for now, I don't really want to wait on that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In all honestly, I don't put anything on my iPhone right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now.. It's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only a 16 gig model, so it cannot hold much. I do read some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through to noon, and I listen to stuff through Spotify. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be tuning in. Also, I do have voice reader on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, as well as dropbox. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I use dropbox more. I do plan to put all these programs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod, once I get it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the books, and the movies I would be putting onto the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are currently on my hard drive. So maybe I could put them into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropbox and look at them that way on the iPhone? I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would do anything not to have to use iTunes. Right now for my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone I have it sync on Wi-Fi. Maybe that is not the best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I will admit, I do not know how to take things off my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or really put them on there. I've never done it. Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for your help. If you have any more advice, or suggestions, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would really appreciate that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a good night! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Richard Turner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You get things on and off the iPod the same way you do with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can choose in iTunes to not have anything automatically >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sync >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the iPod. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes will show that you have two devices and you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> select the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one you have plugged in and only put certain things on it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have to enable mail on the touch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would strongly recommend, however, that you consider >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saving up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the iPod Touch 6th generation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how much longer Apple will support the 5th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation and as one who has owned both, the 6 is worth it.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For your mp3 books, are you using Voice Dream Reader or just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treating them as books through iTunes? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audio described movies will show up in the video app if you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transferring them with iTunes. Or, are these just mp3 files >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blind Mice or somewhere? If just mp3 files, again, Voice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reader would handle them fine and you can get them on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through DropBox rather than going through the pains of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I too have an iPhone and an iPod for similar reasons. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have a device dedicated to listening to music and reading >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books. I find I do other things with it, but those are the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main two things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viph...@googlegroups..com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:25 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Questions regarding the IPod >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am considering purchasing an IPod Touch, 5th generation. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not want the latest one, because I feel I just can't afford >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also, I don't think I need all those features. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So here are some questions I have. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I have to activate male on the IPod. I receive my mail on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, and I really do not want it in both places. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audio described movies, is there a way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add these to the IPod? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, how would I do this? Would they go in to a certain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audiobooks in MP3 format. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would they have to go in to a certain folder as well? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess my main question is, can any MP3 file be put on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IPod? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once I add something, is it easy to remove? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, how do I keep photos off the IPod? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, I want these to stay on my phone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My reason for wanting to purchase an IPod, is so I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listen to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff without interruptions.. For instance, I have a Spotify >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account. I want to put the app on my IPod, and listen to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music from my Bluetooth speaker. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, when I listen with my phone, even though I mute >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, some notices still come through. Even with the screen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locked. So I am tired of this, and do not want it anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help with all this will be much appreciated. I may have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions to come. Especially when it comes to ITunes. 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Not all Android devices support or have the >>>> latest versions and not all can support them which means that we have even >>>> more special questions to ask the dealers who probably won't know because >>>> they are in big chains and they only sell, they do not know a thing about >>>> what they sell and definitely no blindness specific stuff. At least that's >>>> the way in Sweden now. >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> >>>> 31 juli 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> >>>> That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use on my ipad >>>> mini? >>>> >>>> It's my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better on the ipad >>>> than on a android device? >>>> >>>> From: Kevin Chao >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:33 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think >>>> [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"] >>>> >>>> Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience matches iOS >>>> 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas. >>>> I'll agree that earlier Android accessibility was sub-optimal and had a >>>> lot to be desired, but I'd encourage screen reader users to try modern >>>> Android TalkBack. You'll be pleasantly surprised, but to be fair it is >>>> difficult to let go of legacy experiences one may have. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM Terri Stimmel >>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello there Christopher, >>>> >>>> Thank you for giving you giving me your dots and opinions on android >>>> tablets and phones. I really appreciate it. That was very kind of you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> However, I am not at all interested in having an android cabinet. I tried >>>> one a few months ago, and I really dislike it. Before that, I had an >>>> earlier version of a tablet, and I really dislike that as well. At one >>>> point, along time ago, I had an android phone, and I never like that >>>> thing. I know some people love android products, and that is there right, >>>> and their choice. But I am not one of them. I know my iPhone, and other >>>> Apple products, can have their limitations. But I can live with those >>>> limitations. But thank you again for giving me your thoughts on this >>>> matter. I do appreciate it. >>>> >>>> Terri >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There's a lot of good reasons not to get an Android tablet, one of which >>>>> is that you may not want to learn another interface and screen reader, >>>>> but it's getting hard to say that Android tablets aren't very accessible. >>>>> Jonathan Mosen has a good article talking about his experience with an >>>>> Android phone, and based on that article, and some other reasons, I got a >>>>> Samsung S7 Active to go along with my Nexus 7 tablet. The iPhone >>>>> definitely has it's strengths, but depending on what you do with the >>>>> phone, an Android phone or tablet is quite accessible. >>>>> >>>>>> On 27/07/16 15:24, Terri Stimmel wrote: >>>>>> Hello everybody, >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, I will not be getting an iPod after all. >>>>>> I called AT&T, to see when I could upgrade my phone. I want more memory >>>>>> on my phone. I was told I could upgrade in February. I don't know if I >>>>>> will upgrade now. But I might. Anyway, when I was talking to the lady, >>>>>> she told me that they were running a great promotion on tablets. I told >>>>>> her then I would blind, and that I did not want an android tablet >>>>>> because I didn't feel they were very accessible. >>>>>> So she looked to see what she could offer me. She said she could offer >>>>>> me an iPad mini, but it was the second generation. I don't know much >>>>>> about iPads, so I asked her what the latest generation was. She told me >>>>>> the latest generation wasn't for. So I told her that's what I wanted. I >>>>>> know I will be paying on it for a while, but the payments were small. So >>>>>> I decided to go with the 64 gig model. I thought that would give me >>>>>> plenty of space to do whatever I wanted to do. I got it in silver. >>>>>> >>>>>> It should arrive in about five days. I'm very excited about this! No I >>>>>> don't feel so over whelmed, when it comes to making a decision as to >>>>>> what kind of device to get, or not to get. >>>>>> >>>>>> In a little while, I will write a post and ask about iPads. Like I said, >>>>>> I don't know much about them. So I need to learn some things. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you all for all of the help and support. I really appreciate it >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, and have a great day! >>>>>> >>>>>> Terri >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Carol Forrester <carol.l.forres...@me.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 27 Jul 2016, at 19:52, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Terri, >>>>>>>> Other places other than Apple offer refurbished iPods. I got both of >>>>>>>> my kids refurbished 5th generation iPods a couple of years ago from >>>>>>>> Walmart. I have also seen used or refurbished iPods at places like >>>>>>>> Best Buy and Amazon. Just go to their site and do a search for >>>>>>>> Refurbished iPod and see what comes up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For audio books and movies, I would also recommend dropbox to help >>>>>>>> free up some space on your phone. Dropbox is a great storage solution >>>>>>>> when you do not have a lot of space on your phone. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Terri Stimmel >>>>>>>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi there,Sieghard >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for letting me know this. I was wondering if she had given >>>>>>>>> me incorrect information. So I did more research into it. It wasn't >>>>>>>>> easy to find, honestly. But I did discover he was incorrect. >>>>>>>>> I am at a loss as to what to do. I really don't want to devices. I >>>>>>>>> mean, that does seem kind of silly. I know why people do it, and I >>>>>>>>> know why I want to do it. But I don't really have the money to put in >>>>>>>>> to buying a brand-new iPod, and they do have refurbished one. That >>>>>>>>> was supposed to be, they do not have refurbished ones. I just want to >>>>>>>>> be able to enjoy my shows and stuff, without having a lot of >>>>>>>>> distractions. But then when I worry I'm not getting my texts or >>>>>>>>> things of that nature, I get concerned and I am missing important >>>>>>>>> things. Sometimes I am, and sometimes I'm not. I wish I had purchased >>>>>>>>> an iPhone with more memory. But I can't upgrade for a while now. Mine >>>>>>>>> only has 16 gigs, but it looks more like I only have about 11 gigs >>>>>>>>> every level. I think the last time I looked I had a little over five >>>>>>>>> gigs of space. So that is hard to work with. I would like to put >>>>>>>>> audiobooks, and some music, and some other stuff on my phone. But I >>>>>>>>> haven't used iTunes in a long time, and I am not fond of it. When I did use it, I hated it! But I know I am not the only one that feels this way. So maybe I will use dropbox after all, at least as much as I can. Well I appreciate you and the list listening to me ramble. I just needed to get this stuff said.. I guess I will stick with just my iPhone for now. Maybe I could take some applications off of it that I really don't use, and that might give me more space. I don't know. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you so much! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Terri >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Terri, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> She gave you wrong information, they said in the keynote when iOS 10 >>>>>>>>>> was introduced that the only iPod that can run iOS 10 is the iPod >>>>>>>>>> sixth generation. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Terri Stimmel >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:38 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Someone suggested that I look on the Apple website, to see if I >>>>>>>>>> could find a refurbished model. For either the fifth generation, or >>>>>>>>>> the sixth generation. So I did this. When I couldn't find anything, >>>>>>>>>> I decided to call Apple. I spoke with a very nice lady who told me >>>>>>>>>> that they had not had any refurbished models for at least a couple >>>>>>>>>> of months now. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I asked her if you knew whether or not the fifth generation would >>>>>>>>>> support iOS 10. She said that it would. >>>>>>>>>> So now I am rather confused why summer you feel that it won't. Where >>>>>>>>>> have you read this, or heard this? Why would that lady be wrong? >>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying she is or isn't, it's just something I'm curious >>>>>>>>>> about. I want to learn more about this, so I understand this. Thank >>>>>>>>>> you so much! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Terri >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There's also the chance that when the new devices come out this fal, >>>>>>>>>>> the iPod 6th gen may drop in price. I don't know if Apple will >>>>>>>>>>> update >>>>>>>>>>> the iPod line, just throwing something out. While having the latest >>>>>>>>>>> and greatest may not be important for you, realize that as time goes >>>>>>>>>>> by, certain new features may not be available. I would also advise >>>>>>>>>>> waiting a few months to see what happens with new hardware and price >>>>>>>>>>> ddrops, but if you really don't mind having older equipment, then go >>>>>>>>>>> for it. Yes you should be able to update your apps, but again, if >>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>> add features which your hardeware does not support, then you will >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> be able to use those features. Also, from time to time apps drop >>>>>>>>>>> support for older hardware in order to stay current. I don't know if >>>>>>>>>>> this will happen with the iPod 5th gen, but it is possible. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Good luck, >>>>>>>>>>> Wayne >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/16, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It is hard to say, but I have had some apps come out with updates >>>>>>>>>>>> that I could not get since I was not running the most recent >>>>>>>>>>>> version of ios. >>>>>>>>>>>> So after ios 10 comes out, the apps you are using might still >>>>>>>>>>>> support >>>>>>>>>>>> ios 9 at first, but after a while they will probably drop that >>>>>>>>>>>> support. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You could always run the version you had currently on your iPod, >>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>> there is no guarantee that you will always be able to update to the >>>>>>>>>>>> most recent version of the app, especially since the iPod 5 will >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> be supported by ios 10. >>>>>>>>>>>> So if having the most recent version of the app is important to >>>>>>>>>>>> you, >>>>>>>>>>>> then you should maybe wait, continue to save until you could get >>>>>>>>>>>> an iPod 6. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Terri Stimmel >>>>>>>>>>>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone who has contacted me, regarding my iPod touch >>>>>>>>>>>>> questions. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I really appreciate it. I know I should probably buy the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod. But the money just isn't there right now. Plus I don't need >>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>> to do everything. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I also realize that I could put stuff on my phone, and listen to >>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>> that way. But I honestly don't have a lot of space left on my >>>>>>>>>>>>> phone. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a 16 gig model and I think it have about five gigs of space >>>>>>>>>>>>> left. I know I could put it on disturb also. >>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I don't really want to do that, because I get some >>>>>>>>>>>>> important texts and calls during the day. So I wouldn't want to >>>>>>>>>>>>> miss >>>>>>>>>>>>> those, because the Phone was on do not disturb. So this is why I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have decided to go with this generation iPod. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Long as I am able to do what I want with it, and that is fine with >>>>>>>>>>>>> me. Now here is my question. If my application such as, Spotify, >>>>>>>>>>>>> tuna in, 50 radio Pro, and maybe a couple others I can't think of >>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>> the moment, I have updates, when I likely still be able to get >>>>>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>>>>> updates? That is my biggest concern! I would really appreciated if >>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone could answer that for me. I don't mind if I cannot upgrade >>>>>>>>>>>>> past nine. I don't see why that would matter to me, unless it got >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> a point where I could not do my update for my application. Then >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> would definitely be a problem. Thank you for all the help so far. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>>>> really does mean a lot to me. Sorry this message is a little >>>>>>>>>>>>> sloppy. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using dictation. I have never learned how to correct my >>>>>>>>>>>>> mistakes, when using dictation. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> TerriSent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terri, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Christopher already said, the only iPod that can run iOS 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be the sixth generation, the fifth generation stops at iOS 9. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not a big concern for now if all you want to do is run >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spotify, listen to Audio books and so on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think it's a waste of money, if you don't want >>>>>>>>>>>>>> notifications while you listen to a book or music just bring up >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SIRI and say "Turn on Do Not Disturb". >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as getting stuff onto the iPod Touch it is identical to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an iPhone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you can use Dropbox or any number of other cloud services to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> access stuff inside their apps, but if you want the music app >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes is the only way and if you avoid iTunes with your iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then you will also avoid it with the iPod Touch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I started out with an iPod Touch in 2009 and then got the iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2010. A month or two after I got the iPhone I sold my iPod >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Touch >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it was just sitting in the drawer. The same happened >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I bought my 6S. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I kept my 5S at the time and thought maybe I use it at home for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audible and stuff like that, but I just never did because I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use one device instead of two which essentially do the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of christopher hallsworth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:37 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct. iPhone 5 and later, iPad 4, iPad Mini 2 and later, iPad >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pro both >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 and 9.7-inch and iPod Touch 6th Generation will all run iOS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2016, at 16:01, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's my understanding some of the older devices will be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run Ios 10. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:34 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Questions regarding the IPod >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terry, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to Amazon.com the new 32 gig iPod Touch 6th gen is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selling for $242. There are used models listing for as little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as $174. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using some sort of cloud backup such as Dropbox to transfer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in and out of your iPod will be very slow as you will have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload the large files to Dropbox then download them into your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod Touch. Learning to use iTunes will make this process much, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much faster--when iTunes becomes more user friendly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should really, really try to get the newer 6th generation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because if you buy the older 5th gen it will be of little use to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you going forward since it will no longer be upgradeable to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions of iOS--you'll be stuck with iOS 9 the remainder of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time you own this device--you will regret it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the Amazon.com link: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazon.com: Apple iPod touch 32GB Blue (6th Generation): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Electronics - https://is.gd/XjWxoW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:00 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Richard, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for your advice. I really appreciate it. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait and save up money to get the six generation model, but it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard for me to save up money. So that is why I am taking what I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get. Maybe there is not the greatest idea. But I know if I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait for a while, the prices for the sixth generation will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully go down. So by then, maybe I will be able to afford >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for now, I don't really want to wait on that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In all honestly, I don't put anything on my iPhone right now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only a 16 gig model, so it cannot hold much. I do read some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through to noon, and I listen to stuff through Spotify. That was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be tuning in. Also, I do have voice reader on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, as well as dropbox. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I use dropbox more. I do plan to put all these programs on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod, once I get it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the books, and the movies I would be putting onto the iPod, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are currently on my hard drive. So maybe I could put them into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropbox and look at them that way on the iPhone? I don't know. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would do anything not to have to use iTunes. Right now for my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone I have it sync on Wi-Fi. Maybe that is not the best idea? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I will admit, I do not know how to take things off my phone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or really put them on there. I've never done it. Thank you again >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for your help. If you have any more advice, or suggestions, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would really appreciate that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a good night! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Richard Turner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You get things on and off the iPod the same way you do with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can choose in iTunes to not have anything automatically >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sync >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the iPod. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes will show that you have two devices and you can select >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one you have plugged in and only put certain things on it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have to enable mail on the touch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would strongly recommend, however, that you consider saving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the iPod Touch 6th generation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how much longer Apple will support the 5th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation and as one who has owned both, the 6 is worth it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For your mp3 books, are you using Voice Dream Reader or just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treating them as books through iTunes? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audio described movies will show up in the video app if you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transferring them with iTunes. Or, are these just mp3 files >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blind Mice or somewhere? If just mp3 files, again, Voice Dream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reader would handle them fine and you can get them on your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through DropBox rather than going through the pains of iTunes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I too have an iPhone and an iPod for similar reasons. I wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have a device dedicated to listening to music and reading >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books. I find I do other things with it, but those are the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main two things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:25 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Questions regarding the IPod >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am considering purchasing an IPod Touch, 5th generation. I do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not want the latest one, because I feel I just can't afford it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also, I don't think I need all those features. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So here are some questions I have. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I have to activate male on the IPod. I receive my mail on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, and I really do not want it in both places. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audio described movies, is there a way to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add these to the IPod? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, how would I do this? Would they go in to a certain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audiobooks in MP3 format. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would they have to go in to a certain folder as well? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess my main question is, can any MP3 file be put on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IPod? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once I add something, is it easy to remove? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, how do I keep photos off the IPod? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, I want these to stay on my phone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My reason for wanting to purchase an IPod, is so I can listen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff without interruptions.. For instance, I have a Spotify >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account. I want to put the app on my IPod, and listen to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music from my Bluetooth speaker. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, when I listen with my phone, even though I mute the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, some notices still come through. Even with the screen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locked. So I am tired of this, and do not want it anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help with all this will be much appreciated. I may have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions to come. Especially when it comes to ITunes. 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