Anyone got a copy of that article or can give me a direct URL, please?


Thanks!


Carol P - UK



On 01/08/2016 04:10, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I have a Samsung S7 Active, and I didn't have any trouble installing Talk Back or using it. The S7 replaced my iPhone as my every day device, and it was Jonathan Mosen's article that convinced me to make the switch.

On 31/07/16 16:39, Mary Otten wrote:
I don't own a Samsung device, but I know there are plenty of people who
have installed talkback on the S7, so I know it's possible. I'm sorry
you weren't able to do that. Many people find it satisfactory. Depends
on your use case. That's an expensive device. For that kind of money, I
would just assume have an iPhone.
Mary


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On Jul 31, 2016, at 2:23 PM, Gordan Radić <razbij...@gmail.com
<mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Right.

I was testing Samsung Galaxy S7 for two weeks and I wasn't satisfied
with accessibility solutions. As you probably know, Samsung flagship
models has its own screen reader called Voice Assistant and in some
situations it works worse than the Google Talkback on other phones. I
wasn't able to install Talkback on S7, probably because it is disabled
somewhere so I can't tell how it works on that device.

I wrote a detailed reviewon it for my website but it is unfortunately
in my own language so I'll just sumarize the conclusion part.

From sighted point of view comparing Galaxy S7 and iPhone 6S is just
as comparing Mercedes and BMW.

From partially sighted corner S7 has some advantages since there are
tones of look and feel customizations, zooming accessibility options
and of course, a gallery of visual themes from the Gallaxy Store.

But, talking from the blind perspective, Samsung and Google have a lot
to learn about accessibility from Apple.


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31.7.2016. u 20:22, Mary Otten je napisao/la:
It's definitely a lot better than it used to be. Reading Jonathan's blog article would be a good place to start in my opinion. It is hard to find truly unbiased people, because everybody has a bias. They have their own use cases. They have things that are more important to them. I still say, if you want to buy a device and just use it without messing with it, iOS still has a definite advantage. But android accessibility has made lots of strides, less so if you need braille support and are going to be relying on braille back. On the other hand, the cost of Apple products is quite high and out of the reach of many people. So the fact that android accessibility is improving, and the fact that you can get a good android device for less than the cost of a comparable iPhone is a good thing.

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On Jul 31, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote:

Lately it has crossed my mind that i want to test Android, just to see how much closer it is to iPhone. Yes i know it’s a sinn to think this way, for thou shalt not have any other operating systems besides iOs, still i want to know how good it is before i totally bash it.:-) It’s good to know a products strengths and weeknesses right?
/Krister

31 juli 2016 kl. 18:35 skrev Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com>:

Hi, Besides, some of us, like myself, hate the OS, putting accessibility aside. I'll get one to play with, but not to replace anything.



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----- Original Message -----
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]

And what about upgradability? Not all Android devices support or have the latest versions and not all can support them which means that we have even more special questions to ask the dealers who probably won't know because they are in big chains and they only sell, they do not know a thing about what they sell and definitely no blindness specific stuff. At least that's the way in Sweden now.
/Krister

31 juli 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>:

That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use on my ipad mini?

It's my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better on the ipad than on a android device?

From: Kevin Chao <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"]

Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience matches iOS 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas. I'll agree that earlier Android accessibility was sub-optimal and had a lot to be desired, but I'd encourage screen reader users to try modern Android TalkBack. You'll be pleasantly surprised, but to be fair it is difficult to let go of legacy experiences one may have.

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hello there Christopher,

Thank you for giving you giving me your dots and opinions on android tablets and phones. I really appreciate it. That was very kind of you.



However, I am not at all interested in having an android cabinet. I tried one a few months ago, and I really dislike it. Before that, I had an earlier version of a tablet, and I really dislike that as well. At one point, along time ago, I had an android phone, and I never like that thing. I know some people love android products, and that is there right, and their choice. But I am not one of them. I know my iPhone, and other Apple products, can have their limitations. But I can live with those limitations. But thank you again for giving me your thoughts on this matter. I do appreciate it.

Terri
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On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

There's a lot of good reasons not to get an Android tablet, one of which is that you may not want to learn another interface and screen reader, but it's getting hard to say that Android tablets aren't very accessible. Jonathan Mosen has a good article talking about his experience with an Android phone, and based on that article, and some other reasons, I got a Samsung S7 Active to go along with my Nexus 7 tablet. The iPhone definitely has it's strengths, but depending on what you do with the phone, an Android phone or tablet is quite accessible.

On 27/07/16 15:24, Terri Stimmel wrote:
Hello everybody,

Well, I will not be getting an iPod after all.
I called AT&T, to see when I could upgrade my phone. I want more memory on my phone. I was told I could upgrade in February. I don't know if I will upgrade now. But I might. Anyway, when I was talking to the lady, she told me that they were running a great promotion on tablets. I told her then I would blind, and that I did not want an android tablet because I didn't feel they were very accessible. So she looked to see what she could offer me. She said she could offer me an iPad mini, but it was the second generation. I don't know much about iPads, so I asked her what the latest generation was. She told me the latest generation wasn't for. So I told her that's what I wanted. I know I will be paying on it for a while, but the payments were small. So I decided to go with the 64 gig model. I thought that would give me plenty of space to do whatever I wanted to do. I got it in silver.

It should arrive in about five days. I'm very excited about this! No I don't feel so over whelmed, when it comes to making a decision as to what kind of device to get, or not to get.

In a little while, I will write a post and ask about iPads. Like I said, I don't know much about them. So I need to learn some things.

Thank you all for all of the help and support. I really appreciate it

Thank you, and have a great day!

Terri

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On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Carol Forrester <carol.l.forres...@me.com <mailto:carol.l.forres...@me.com>> wrote:



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On 27 Jul 2016, at 19:52, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com <mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Terri,
Other places other than Apple offer refurbished iPods. I got both of my kids refurbished 5th generation iPods a couple of years ago from Walmart. I have also seen used or refurbished iPods at places like Best Buy and Amazon. Just go to their site and do a search for Refurbished iPod and see what comes up.

For audio books and movies, I would also recommend dropbox to help free up some space on your phone. Dropbox is a great storage solution when you do not have a lot of space on your phone.

Hope this helps.

Chris


On Jul 27, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi there,Sieghard

Thank you for letting me know this. I was wondering if she had given me incorrect information. So I did more research into it. It wasn't easy to find, honestly. But I did discover he was incorrect. I am at a loss as to what to do. I really don't want to devices. I mean, that does seem kind of silly. I know why people do it, and I know why I want to do it. But I don't really have the money to put in to buying a brand-new iPod, and they do have refurbished one. That was supposed to be, they do not have refurbished ones. I just want to be able to enjoy my shows and stuff, without having a lot of distractions. But then when I worry I'm not getting my texts or things of that nature, I get concerned and I am missing important things. Sometimes I am, and sometimes I'm not. I wish I had purchased an iPhone with more memory. But I can't upgrade for a while now. Mine only has 16 gigs, but it looks more like I only have about 11 gigs every level. I think the last time I looked I had a little over five gigs of space. So that is hard to work with. I would like to put audiobooks, and some music, and some other stuff on my phone. But I haven't used iTunes in a long time, and I am not fond of it. When I did use it, I hated it! But I know I am not the only one that feels this way. So maybe I will use dropbox after all, at least as much as I can. Well I appreciate you and the list listening to me ramble. I just needed to get this stuff said. I guess I will stick with just my iPhone for now. Maybe I could take some applications off of it that I really don't use, and that might give me more space. I don't know.

Thank you so much!

Terri


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On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Terri,

She gave you wrong information, they said in the keynote when iOS 10 was introduced that the only iPod that can run iOS 10 is the iPod sixth generation.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod

Hello everybody,

Someone suggested that I look on the Apple website, to see if I could find a refurbished model. For either the fifth generation, or the sixth generation. So I did this. When I couldn't find anything, I decided to call Apple. I spoke with a very nice lady who told me that they had not had any refurbished models for at least a couple of months now.

I asked her if you knew whether or not the fifth generation would support iOS 10. She said that it would. So now I am rather confused why summer you feel that it won't. Where have you read this, or heard this? Why would that lady be wrong? I'm not saying she is or isn't, it's just something I'm curious about. I want to learn more about this, so I understand this. Thank you so much!

Terri

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On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com <mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote:

There's also the chance that when the new devices come out this fal, the iPod 6th gen may drop in price. I don't know if Apple will update the iPod line, just throwing something out. While having the latest and greatest may not be important for you, realize that as time goes by, certain new features may not be available. I would also advise waiting a few months to see what happens with new hardware and price ddrops, but if you really don't mind having older equipment, then go for it. Yes you should be able to update your apps, but again, if they add features which your hardeware does not support, then you will not be able to use those features. Also, from time to time apps drop support for older hardware in order to stay current. I don't know if this will happen with the iPod 5th gen, but it is possible.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 7/25/16, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com <mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It is hard to say, but I have had some apps come out with updates that I could not get since I was not running the most recent version of ios. So after ios 10 comes out, the apps you are using might still support ios 9 at first, but after a while they will probably drop that support.

You could always run the version you had currently on your iPod, but there is no guarantee that you will always be able to update to the most recent version of the app, especially since the iPod 5 will not
be supported by ios 10.
So if having the most recent version of the app is important to you, then you should maybe wait, continue to save until you could get an iPod 6.

Chris


On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Terri Stimmel
<icecreamlove...@outlook.com <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>>
wrote:

Hello everyone who has contacted me, regarding my iPod touch questions.

I really appreciate it. I know I should probably buy the latest iPod. But the money just isn't there right now. Plus I don't need it
to do everything.
I also realize that I could put stuff on my phone, and listen to it that way. But I honestly don't have a lot of space left on my phone. It is a 16 gig model and I think it have about five gigs of space
left. I know I could put it on disturb also.
However, I don't really want to do that, because I get some important texts and calls during the day. So I wouldn't want to miss those, because the Phone was on do not disturb. So this is why I
have decided to go with this generation iPod.

Long as I am able to do what I want with it, and that is fine with me. Now here is my question. If my application such as, Spotify, tuna in, 50 radio Pro, and maybe a couple others I can't think of at the moment, I have updates, when I likely still be able to get these updates? That is my biggest concern! I would really appreciated if anyone could answer that for me. I don't mind if I cannot upgrade past nine. I don't see why that would matter to me, unless it got to a point where I could not do my update for my application. Then that would definitely be a problem. Thank you for all the help so far. It really does mean a lot to me. Sorry this message is a little sloppy. I am using dictation. I have never learned how to correct my mistakes, when using dictation.

Have a great day!

TerriSent from my iPhone

On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live..ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Terri,

As Christopher already said, the only iPod that can run iOS 10 will be the sixth generation, the fifth generation stops at iOS 9. Probably not a big concern for now if all you want to do is run
Spotify, listen to Audio books and so on.
Personally I think it's a waste of money, if you don't want notifications while you listen to a book or music just bring up
SIRI and say "Turn on Do Not Disturb".
As far as getting stuff onto the iPod Touch it is identical to an iPhone. Yes, you can use Dropbox or any number of other cloud services to access stuff inside their apps, but if you want the music app then iTunes is the only way and if you avoid iTunes with your iPhone
then you will also avoid it with the iPod Touch.
I started out with an iPod Touch in 2009 and then got the iPhone 4 in 2010. A month or two after I got the iPhone I sold my iPod Touch because it was just sitting in the drawer. The same happened when I bought my 6S. I kept my 5S at the time and thought maybe I use it at home for Audible and stuff like that, but I just never did because I prefer to use one device instead of two which essentially do the same thing.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On
Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:37 AM
To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod

Correct. iPhone 5 and later, iPad 4, iPad Mini 2 and later, iPad
Pro both
12 and 9.7-inch and iPod Touch 6th Generation will all run iOS 10.
On 24 Jul 2016, at 16:01, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com <mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It's my understanding some of the older devices will be able to
run Ios 10.

-----Original Message----- From: Jeremy
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Questions regarding the IPod

Hi Terry,

according to Amazon.com <http://amazon.com> the new 32 gig iPod Touch 6th gen is selling for $242. There are used models listing for as little as $174.

Using some sort of cloud backup such as Dropbox to transfer files in and out of your iPod will be very slow as you will have to upload the large files to Dropbox then download them into your iPod Touch. Learning to use iTunes will make this process much,
much faster--when iTunes becomes more user friendly.

You should really, really try to get the newer 6th generation because if you buy the older 5th gen it will be of little use to you going forward since it will no longer be upgradeable to newer versions of iOS--you'll be stuck with iOS 9 the remainder of the
time you own this device--you will regret it.

Here's the Amazon.com <http://amazon.com> link:

Amazon.com <http://amazon.com>: Apple iPod touch 32GB Blue (6th Generation): Electronics - https://is.gd/XjWxoW <https://is.gd/XjWxoW>

JR

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On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod

Hello Richard,

Thank you so much for your advice. I really appreciate it. I would wait and save up money to get the six generation model, but it is hard for me to save up money. So that is why I am taking what I can get. Maybe there is not the greatest idea. But I know if I wait for a while, the prices for the sixth generation will hopefully go down. So by then, maybe I will be able to afford one.
But for now, I don't really want to wait on that.

In all honestly, I don't put anything on my iPhone right now.. It's only a 16 gig model, so it cannot hold much. I do read some stuff through to noon, and I listen to stuff through Spotify. That was supposed to be tuning in. Also, I do have voice reader on my phone, as well as dropbox. But I use dropbox more. I do plan to put all these programs on my
iPod, once I get it.
But the books, and the movies I would be putting onto the iPod, are currently on my hard drive. So maybe I could put them into dropbox and look at them that way on the iPhone? I don't know. I would do anything not to have to use iTunes. Right now for my phone I have it sync on Wi-Fi. Maybe that is not the best idea? But I will admit, I do not know how to take things off my phone, or really put them on there. I've never done it. Thank you again for your help. If you have any more advice, or suggestions, I would really appreciate that.

Have a good night!

Terri


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On Jul 23, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Richard Turner
<richardturne...@outlook.com <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

You get things on and off the iPod the same way you do with the
iPhone.
You can choose in iTunes to not have anything automatically sync
to the iPod.
iTunes will show that you have two devices and you can select the one you have plugged in and only put certain things on it.
You do not have to enable mail on the touch.
I would strongly recommend, however, that you consider saving up
for the iPod Touch 6th generation.
I don't know how much longer Apple will support the 5th generation and as one who has owned both, the 6 is worth it.. For your mp3 books, are you using Voice Dream Reader or just
treating them as books through iTunes?

Audio described movies will show up in the video app if you are transferring them with iTunes. Or, are these just mp3 files from Blind Mice or somewhere? If just mp3 files, again, Voice Dream Reader would handle them fine and you can get them on your device through DropBox rather than going through the pains of iTunes.

I too have an iPhone and an iPod for similar reasons. I wanted to have a device dedicated to listening to music and reading books. I find I do other things with it, but those are the main two things.

Enjoy,
Richard


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On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:25 PM
To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Questions regarding the IPod

Hello everybody,

I am considering purchasing an IPod Touch, 5th generation. I do not want the latest one, because I feel I just can't afford it.
But also, I don't think I need all those features.

So here are some questions I have.

Do I have to activate male on the IPod. I receive my mail on my
phone, and I really do not want it in both places.

Also, I have a lot of audio described movies, is there a way to
add these to the IPod?
If so, how would I do this? Would they go in to a certain folder?

Also, I have a lot of audiobooks in MP3 format.
Would they have to go in to a certain folder as well?
I guess my main question is, can any MP3 file be put on the IPod?

Once I add something, is it easy to remove?

Also, how do I keep photos off the IPod?
Again, I want these to stay on my phone.

My reason for wanting to purchase an IPod, is so I can listen to stuff without interruptions.. For instance, I have a Spotify account. I want to put the app on my IPod, and listen to the
music from my Bluetooth speaker.
Right now, when I listen with my phone, even though I mute the phone, some notices still come through. Even with the screen locked. So I am tired of this, and do not want it anymore.

Any help with all this will be much appreciated. I may have more questions to come. Especially when it comes to ITunes. I really
dislike that program.

Thank you,

Terri

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And what about upgradability? Not all Android devices support or have the latest versions and not all can support them which means that we have even more special questions to ask the dealers who probably won't know because they are in big chains and they only sell, they do not know a thing about what they sell and definitely no blindness specific stuff. At least that's the way in Sweden now.
/Krister


31 juli 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>:


That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use on my ipad mini?

It's my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better on the ipad than on a android device?

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Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience matches iOS 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas. I'll agree that earlier Android accessibility was sub-optimal and had a lot to be desired, but I'd encourage screen reader users to try modern Android TalkBack. You'll be pleasantly surprised, but to be fair it is difficult to let go of legacy experiences one may have.

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> wrote:

Hello there Christopher,

Thank you for giving you giving me your dots and opinions on android tablets and phones. I really appreciate it. That was very kind of you.



However, I am not at all interested in having an android cabinet. I tried one a few months ago, and I really dislike it. Before that, I had an earlier version of a tablet, and I really dislike that as well. At one point, along time ago, I had an android phone, and I never like that thing. I know some people love android products, and that is there right, and their choice. But I am not one of them. I know my iPhone, and other Apple products, can have their limitations. But I can live with those limitations. But thank you again for giving me your thoughts on this matter. I do appreciate it.

Terri
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On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:

There's a lot of good reasons not to get an Android tablet, one of which is that you may not want to learn another interface and screen reader, but it's getting hard to say that Android tablets aren't very accessible. Jonathan Mosen has a good article talking about his experience with an Android phone, and based on that article, and some other reasons, I got a Samsung S7 Active to go along with my Nexus 7 tablet. The iPhone definitely has it's strengths, but depending on what you do with the phone, an Android phone or tablet is quite accessible.

On 27/07/16 15:24, Terri Stimmel wrote:
Hello everybody,

Well, I will not be getting an iPod after all.
I called AT&T, to see when I could upgrade my phone. I want more memory on my phone. I was told I could upgrade in February. I don't know if I will upgrade now. But I might. Anyway, when I was talking to the lady, she told me that they were running a great promotion on tablets. I told her then I would blind, and that I did not want an android tablet because I didn't feel they were very accessible. So she looked to see what she could offer me. She said she could offer me an iPad mini, but it was the second generation. I don't know much about iPads, so I asked her what the latest generation was. She told me the latest generation wasn't for. So I told her that's what I wanted. I know I will be paying on it for a while, but the payments were small. So I decided to go with the 64 gig model. I thought that would give me plenty of space to do whatever I wanted to do. I got it in silver.

It should arrive in about five days. I'm very excited about this! No I don't feel so over whelmed, when it comes to making a decision as to what kind of device to get, or not to get.

In a little while, I will write a post and ask about iPads. Like I said, I don't know much about them. So I need to learn some things.

Thank you all for all of the help and support. I really appreciate it

Thank you, and have a great day!

Terri

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On 27 Jul 2016, at 19:52, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Terri,
Other places other than Apple offer refurbished iPods. I got both of my kids refurbished 5th generation iPods a couple of years ago from Walmart. I have also seen used or refurbished iPods at places like Best Buy and Amazon. Just go to their site and do a search for Refurbished iPod and see what comes up.

For audio books and movies, I would also recommend dropbox to help free up some space on your phone. Dropbox is a great storage solution when you do not have a lot of space on your phone.

Hope this helps.

Chris


On Jul 27, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi there,Sieghard

Thank you for letting me know this. I was wondering if she had given me incorrect information. So I did more research into it. It wasn't easy to find, honestly. But I did discover he was incorrect. I am at a loss as to what to do. I really don't want to devices. I mean, that does seem kind of silly. I know why people do it, and I know why I want to do it. But I don't really have the money to put in to buying a brand-new iPod, and they do have refurbished one. That was supposed to be, they do not have refurbished ones. I just want to be able to enjoy my shows and stuff, without having a lot of distractions. But then when I worry I'm not getting my texts or things of that nature, I get concerned and I am missing important things. Sometimes I am, and sometimes I'm not. I wish I had purchased an iPhone with more memory. But I can't upgrade for a while now. Mine only has 16 gigs, but it looks more like I only have about 11 gigs every level. I think the last time I looked I had a little over five gigs of space. So that is hard to work with. I would like to put audiobooks, and some music, and some other stuff on my phone. But I haven't used iTunes in a long time, and I am not fond of it. When I did use it, I hated it! But I know I am not the only one that feels this way. So maybe I will use dropbox after all, at least as much as I can. Well I appreciate you and the list listening to me ramble. I just needed to get this stuff said.. I guess I will stick with just my iPhone for now. Maybe I could take some applications off of it that I really don't use, and that might give me more space. I don't know.

Thank you so much!

Terri


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On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Hi Terri,

She gave you wrong information, they said in the keynote when iOS 10 was introduced that the only iPod that can run iOS 10 is the iPod sixth generation.

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Hello everybody,

Someone suggested that I look on the Apple website, to see if I could find a refurbished model. For either the fifth generation, or the sixth generation. So I did this. When I couldn't find anything, I decided to call Apple. I spoke with a very nice lady who told me that they had not had any refurbished models for at least a couple of months now.

I asked her if you knew whether or not the fifth generation would support iOS 10. She said that it would. So now I am rather confused why summer you feel that it won't. Where have you read this, or heard this? Why would that lady be wrong? I'm not saying she is or isn't, it's just something I'm curious about. I want to learn more about this, so I understand this. Thank you so much!

Terri

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On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:

There's also the chance that when the new devices come out this fal, the iPod 6th gen may drop in price. I don't know if Apple will update the iPod line, just throwing something out. While having the latest and greatest may not be important for you, realize that as time goes by, certain new features may not be available. I would also advise waiting a few months to see what happens with new hardware and price ddrops, but if you really don't mind having older equipment, then go for it. Yes you should be able to update your apps, but again, if they add features which your hardeware does not support, then you will not be able to use those features. Also, from time to time apps drop support for older hardware in order to stay current. I don't know if
this will happen with the iPod 5th gen, but it is possible.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 7/25/16, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote:

It is hard to say, but I have had some apps come out with updates that I could not get since I was not running the most recent version of ios. So after ios 10 comes out, the apps you are using might still support ios 9 at first, but after a while they will probably drop that support.

You could always run the version you had currently on your iPod, but there is no guarantee that you will always be able to update to the most recent version of the app, especially since the iPod 5 will not
be supported by ios 10.
So if having the most recent version of the app is important to you, then you should maybe wait, continue to save until you could get an iPod 6.

Chris


On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Terri Stimmel
<icecreamlove...@outlook.com>
wrote:

Hello everyone who has contacted me, regarding my iPod touch questions.

I really appreciate it. I know I should probably buy the latest iPod. But the money just isn't there right now. Plus I don't need it
to do everything.
I also realize that I could put stuff on my phone, and listen to it that way. But I honestly don't have a lot of space left on my phone. It is a 16 gig model and I think it have about five gigs of space
left. I know I could put it on disturb also.
However, I don't really want to do that, because I get some important texts and calls during the day. So I wouldn't want to miss those, because the Phone was on do not disturb. So this is why I
have decided to go with this generation iPod.

Long as I am able to do what I want with it, and that is fine with me. Now here is my question. If my application such as, Spotify, tuna in, 50 radio Pro, and maybe a couple others I can't think of at the moment, I have updates, when I likely still be able to get these updates? That is my biggest concern! I would really appreciated if anyone could answer that for me. I don't mind if I cannot upgrade past nine. I don't see why that would matter to me, unless it got to a point where I could not do my update for my application. Then that would definitely be a problem. Thank you for all the help so far. It really does mean a lot to me. Sorry this message is a little sloppy. I am using dictation. I have never learned how to correct my mistakes, when using dictation.

Have a great day!

TerriSent from my iPhone

On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Hi Terri,

As Christopher already said, the only iPod that can run iOS 10 will be the sixth generation, the fifth generation stops at iOS 9. Probably not a big concern for now if all you want to do is run
Spotify, listen to Audio books and so on.
Personally I think it's a waste of money, if you don't want notifications while you listen to a book or music just bring up
SIRI and say "Turn on Do Not Disturb".
As far as getting stuff onto the iPod Touch it is identical to an iPhone. Yes, you can use Dropbox or any number of other cloud services to access stuff inside their apps, but if you want the music app then iTunes is the only way and if you avoid iTunes with your iPhone
then you will also avoid it with the iPod Touch.
I started out with an iPod Touch in 2009 and then got the iPhone 4 in 2010. A month or two after I got the iPhone I sold my iPod Touch because it was just sitting in the drawer. The same happened when I bought my 6S. I kept my 5S at the time and thought maybe I use it at home for Audible and stuff like that, but I just never did because I prefer to use one device instead of two which essentially do the same thing.

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Sieghard

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Correct. iPhone 5 and later, iPad 4, iPad Mini 2 and later, iPad
Pro both
12 and 9.7-inch and iPod Touch 6th Generation will all run iOS 10.
On 24 Jul 2016, at 16:01, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:

It's my understanding some of the older devices will be able to
run Ios 10.

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Hi Terry,

according to Amazon.com <http://amazon.com> the new 32 gig iPod Touch 6th gen is selling for $242. There are used models listing for as little as $174.

Using some sort of cloud backup such as Dropbox to transfer files in and out of your iPod will be very slow as you will have to upload the large files to Dropbox then download them into your iPod Touch. Learning to use iTunes will make this process much,
much faster--when iTunes becomes more user friendly.

You should really, really try to get the newer 6th generation because if you buy the older 5th gen it will be of little use to you going forward since it will no longer be upgradeable to newer versions of iOS--you'll be stuck with iOS 9 the remainder of the
time you own this device--you will regret it.

Here's the Amazon.com <http://amazon.com> link:

Amazon.com <http://amazon.com>: Apple iPod touch 32GB Blue (6th Generation):
Electronics - https://is.gd/XjWxoW

JR

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Hello Richard,

Thank you so much for your advice. I really appreciate it. I would wait and save up money to get the six generation model, but it is hard for me to save up money. So that is why I am taking what I can get. Maybe there is not the greatest idea. But I know if I wait for a while, the prices for the sixth generation will hopefully go down. So by then, maybe I will be able to afford one.
But for now, I don't really want to wait on that.

In all honestly, I don't put anything on my iPhone right now. It's only a 16 gig model, so it cannot hold much. I do read some stuff through to noon, and I listen to stuff through Spotify. That was supposed to be tuning in. Also, I do have voice reader on my phone, as well as dropbox. But I use dropbox more. I do plan to put all these programs on my
iPod, once I get it.
But the books, and the movies I would be putting onto the iPod, are currently on my hard drive. So maybe I could put them into dropbox and look at them that way on the iPhone? I don't know. I would do anything not to have to use iTunes. Right now for my phone I have it sync on Wi-Fi. Maybe that is not the best idea? But I will admit, I do not know how to take things off my phone, or really put them on there. I've never done it. Thank you again for your help. If you have any more advice, or suggestions, I would really appreciate that.

Have a good night!

Terri


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On Jul 23, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Richard Turner
<richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

You get things on and off the iPod the same way you do with the
iPhone.
You can choose in iTunes to not have anything automatically sync
to the iPod.
iTunes will show that you have two devices and you can select the one you have plugged in and only put certain things on it.
You do not have to enable mail on the touch.
I would strongly recommend, however, that you consider saving up
for the iPod Touch 6th generation.
I don't know how much longer Apple will support the 5th
generation and as one who has owned both, the 6 is worth it. For your mp3 books, are you using Voice Dream Reader or just
treating them as books through iTunes?

Audio described movies will show up in the video app if you are transferring them with iTunes. Or, are these just mp3 files from Blind Mice or somewhere? If just mp3 files, again, Voice Dream Reader would handle them fine and you can get them on your device through DropBox rather than going through the pains of iTunes.

I too have an iPhone and an iPod for similar reasons. I wanted to have a device dedicated to listening to music and reading books. I find I do other things with it, but those are the main two things.

Enjoy,
Richard


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Hello everybody,

I am considering purchasing an IPod Touch, 5th generation. I do not want the latest one, because I feel I just can't afford it.
But also, I don't think I need all those features.

So here are some questions I have.

Do I have to activate male on the IPod. I receive my mail on my
phone, and I really do not want it in both places.

Also, I have a lot of audio described movies, is there a way to
add these to the IPod?
If so, how would I do this? Would they go in to a certain folder?

Also, I have a lot of audiobooks in MP3 format.
Would they have to go in to a certain folder as well?
I guess my main question is, can any MP3 file be put on the IPod?

Once I add something, is it easy to remove?

Also, how do I keep photos off the IPod?
Again, I want these to stay on my phone.

My reason for wanting to purchase an IPod, is so I can listen to stuff without interruptions.. For instance, I have a Spotify account. I want to put the app on my IPod, and listen to the
music from my Bluetooth speaker.
Right now, when I listen with my phone, even though I mute the phone, some notices still come through. Even with the screen locked. So I am tired of this, and do not want it anymore.

Any help with all this will be much appreciated. I may have more questions to come. Especially when it comes to ITunes. I really
dislike that program.

Thank you,

Terri

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