RE: Voice Over accessibility for Sonos

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, I forgot about your own library. Yes, Sonos has access to it but of 
course your PC has to be on. Ideal is a network attached hard drive because any 
music you have on it and where you point Sonos to that network share is always 
available whether the computer is on or not.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kathy Metters
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Over accessibility for Sonos

 I forgot to mention in my previous email that I purchased the sonostesia  book 
by Jonathan Mosen and it was an excellent read I read it from cover to cover. 
Not only that I also went into the store and looked at the Sonos speakers. But 
I really do want to know about the playlist from Apple Music. And also my 
personal library on my computer. I couldn't understand this clearly from 
reading the book alone. excuse me for being naïve while  I love music I'm just 
new to all this recent technology

Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Jonathan Mosen 
> wrote:
Hi Sachin, in addition to Robin's excellent answers, I've written a book 
describing how to use and set up Sonos in detail. It's called Sonisthesia, and 
can be purchased here.
http://mosen.org/sonos
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 28/09/2016, at 3:55 AM, Sachin Pavithran 
> wrote:

Hello all,  I am considering sonos as a way of sending music to various zones 
in my house.  I know sonos has been discussed here in the past but haven’t 
really followed that thred.  Wondering if you could answer a few basic 
questions for me:

1)   How accessible is the sonos app?
2)Has the company sonos been responsive to address accessibility issues?
3)When you stream audio using sonos does voice over remain on your 
phone?
4)   Anything else I might want to keep in mind before taking this step?

Appreciate any feedback that you all might be willing to provide.

Cheers.

Sachin

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RE: Voice Over accessibility for Sonos

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Katie,

Are you subscribed to Apple Music? If so, then Sonos does support it. I think 
you really get the full benefit of the Sonos system if you do subscribe either 
to Apple Music, Spotify, Deezer or one of the other major music services. For 
many of us who have iOS Devices and maybe an Apple TV I think Apple Music is 
the service which makes the most sense.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kathy Metters
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Over accessibility for Sonos

 I forgot to mention in my previous email that I purchased the sonostesia  book 
by Jonathan Mosen and it was an excellent read I read it from cover to cover. 
Not only that I also went into the store and looked at the Sonos speakers. But 
I really do want to know about the playlist from Apple Music. And also my 
personal library on my computer. I couldn't understand this clearly from 
reading the book alone. excuse me for being naïve while  I love music I'm just 
new to all this recent technology

Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Jonathan Mosen 
> wrote:
Hi Sachin, in addition to Robin's excellent answers, I've written a book 
describing how to use and set up Sonos in detail. It's called Sonisthesia, and 
can be purchased here.
http://mosen.org/sonos
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 28/09/2016, at 3:55 AM, Sachin Pavithran 
> wrote:

Hello all,  I am considering sonos as a way of sending music to various zones 
in my house.  I know sonos has been discussed here in the past but haven’t 
really followed that thred.  Wondering if you could answer a few basic 
questions for me:

1)   How accessible is the sonos app?
2)Has the company sonos been responsive to address accessibility issues?
3)When you stream audio using sonos does voice over remain on your 
phone?
4)   Anything else I might want to keep in mind before taking this step?

Appreciate any feedback that you all might be willing to provide.

Cheers.

Sachin

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Re: Voice Over accessibility for Sonos

[Kathy Metters]

 I forgot to mention in my previous email that I purchased the sonostesia  book 
by Jonathan Mosen and it was an excellent read I read it from cover to cover. 
Not only that I also went into the store and looked at the Sonos speakers. But 
I really do want to know about the playlist from Apple Music. And also my 
personal library on my computer. I couldn't understand this clearly from 
reading the book alone. excuse me for being naïve while  I love music I'm just 
new to all this recent technology

Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sachin, in addition to Robin's excellent answers, I've written a book 
> describing how to use and set up Sonos in detail. It's called Sonisthesia, 
> and can be purchased here.
> http://mosen.org/sonos
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 28/09/2016, at 3:55 AM, Sachin Pavithran  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,  I am considering sonos as a way of sending music to various 
>> zones in my house.  I know sonos has been discussed here in the past but 
>> haven’t really followed that thred.  Wondering if you could answer a few 
>> basic questions for me:
>>  
>> 1)   How accessible is the sonos app?
>> 2)Has the company sonos been responsive to address accessibility 
>> issues?
>> 3)When you stream audio using sonos does voice over remain on your 
>> phone?
>> 4)   Anything else I might want to keep in mind before taking this step?
>>  
>> Appreciate any feedback that you all might be willing to provide.
>>  
>> Cheers.
>>  
>> Sachin
>> 
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Re: Voice Over accessibility for Sonos

[Kathy Metters]

Hello
I also am considering getting a Sonos play five for my birthday coming up. I 
have one question though. I have music match through iTunes. Can I play my 
playlist that I have on Apple Music if that contain songs from my music match? 
I really need to know this.

Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sachin, in addition to Robin's excellent answers, I've written a book 
> describing how to use and set up Sonos in detail. It's called Sonisthesia, 
> and can be purchased here.
> http://mosen.org/sonos
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 28/09/2016, at 3:55 AM, Sachin Pavithran  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,  I am considering sonos as a way of sending music to various 
>> zones in my house.  I know sonos has been discussed here in the past but 
>> haven’t really followed that thred.  Wondering if you could answer a few 
>> basic questions for me:
>>  
>> 1)   How accessible is the sonos app?
>> 2)Has the company sonos been responsive to address accessibility 
>> issues?
>> 3)When you stream audio using sonos does voice over remain on your 
>> phone?
>> 4)   Anything else I might want to keep in mind before taking this step?
>>  
>> Appreciate any feedback that you all might be willing to provide.
>>  
>> Cheers.
>>  
>> Sachin
>> 
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are my voicemails gone forever now that I upgraded

[Paul Ferrara]

All, I seem to remember the last time I upgraded phones 18 months ago that 
email and voicemail was deleted, never to be found again.
In the last 18 months, I had two voicemails I saved and wanted to keep forever; 
however, I forgot about my old ones disappearing. I couldn’t care less about 
the email; the voice mail—totally different thing. Is there anything at all I 
can do to retrieve them, or are they, as I suspect, permanently gone.

Thanks.

Paul

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Re: Spodify subscription question

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I missed that!
Thanks
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Same thing, maybe you didn't see this, but when I replied originally I 
> mentioned that I usually also use gift cards which I buy when they are 20% 
> off to put a couple of hundred Dollars on my account, this then pays for our 
> Apple Music Family subscription which here in Canada is $15/month or $180 a 
> year and my 50 Gb of iCloud storage which I think is a bit over a Dollar 
> here. This way Apple Music effectively costs me only $12 a month.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 6:02 AM
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> 
> What about apple music or icloud?
>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:18 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It *definitely* will. I always pay for my subscriptions with gift cards, and 
>> not once do I remember Apple using my stored payment info unless they have 
>> to of course, such as recovering any outstanding balances because of the 
>> gift card having insufficient funds.
>>> On 28 Oct 2016, at 03:20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It should, works fine for an Apple Music subscription so unless Apple 
>>> somehow doesn't allow third-party subscriptions it should be fine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:23 PM
>>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>> Cc: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>> Subject: Spodify subscription question
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
>>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> I have my spodify subscription paid through itunes. If I get an itunes 
>>> card, will that pay for my subscription?
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Re: "no items found"

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

I'm getting a different one! :]


It's only started yesterday/today. I go into a textbox in Messenger to
respond to someone's text and hear something about using handwriting.
Now, I don't have the handwriting option ticked on the rotor since I
never use it. (I've checked it hasn't happened accidentally.)


I check the textbox, realise I can keyboard so I start to do that.
Immediately I put down my phone whilst still writing the message, the
"handwriting" comment is spoken once again.


I'll try VO as the possible culpret next time I pick up my phone!



I do notice that this occurs when I suddenly find myself having selected 
another keyboard, which just happens to be the MBraille one and then, 
getting out of that one is a nightmare and still persists, sometimes, after 
rebootdd


Has anyone any ideas on this senario, please!

Carol P



On 21/10/2016 17:10, Shai wrote:

Hello,
Restarting VoiceOver also seems to clear it up for me. I did not
search for anything using the spotlight search but I still received
this message only once.


On 10/21/16, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:

HI.  I am getting the message "no items found" every time I lock the
screen.
Has anyone else seen this?  Just curious.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Boston

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Re: Question on iPad mini

[Mary Otten]

You know, I don't remember when the iPad one was released. It was when Steve 
Jobs was there. I purchased mine the following year, right when the iPad 2 came 
out. The iPad one dropped seriously in price, and I got a good deal from AT 
on one. It is stuck on iOS five point something.
Of course it has the old 30 pin connector. It really feels heavy now and thick. 
How the times have changed.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:21 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> When was that even released? And what IOS can it handle? As for the battery, 
> you can always use it off charge, when the battery goes.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:15 pm
> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> 
>> 
>> 
>> You could be right. Believe it or not, I still have an original iPad. Now if 
>> you want to talk about slow, that's it. It is useless except for playing 
>> audiobooks from audible. That's all I use it for. I'm just waiting for the 
>> battery to die. I can't believe it still works after all this time.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> Whoa, OK, yeah, that, I'll give you. I still have my trusty 5S, with a 
>>> loose, although never dropped screen, as well as the iPad air, so compared 
>>> to those, mine are slow. As for voice dream, never used it, so can't 
>>> comment on it. Think you're just used to things happening faster, rather 
>>> than the things slowing down, if I make sense. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Mary Otten  
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
>>> 
 
 
 Well,Rajmund, maybe you are just more patient than I am. It just seems 
 like applications are taking quite a while to open these days, as compared 
 to my iPhone 7 Plus or even the 6S, which I had before I turned it in in 
 favor of the 7+. I am also having a lot of trouble with voice dream reader 
 on my mini two, crashing, slow opening, app freezing, etc. I am not having 
 this problem on my iPhone 7 Plus, and I didn't have it on my iPhone 6s. Of 
 course, I suspect that Ed's grandkids won't be using that app. So, the 
 mini two still works, I just think it's showing it's age.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's 
> the same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be 
>> using voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. 
>> It still works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last 
>> update.. I feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini 
>> two will not be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand 
>> that you probably don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, 
>> depending on how old they are and how will they take care of stuff. But 
>> the mini four should have more years of upgrade in it than the mini 
>> twoo, at least one more year.. And there might be good deals on that 
>> coming down the line.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard,
>>> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give 
>>> information to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a 
>>> couple iPad Mini 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There 
>>> is not a lot of different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip 
>>> and the 4 has an a8..
>>> Once again thanks for the info.
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
>>> 
>>> Hi Ed,
>>> 
>>> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of 
>>> iDevices just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini 
>>> models and release info"
>>> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search 
>>> results and here you find 

Re: comparison information on the IPhone 7 and the SE

[Gordon]

Go look in your battery area and see what's using the most. This is how 
a number of us narrowed it down to Roger a few weeks ago when they 
pushed out a bad update.



On 10/28/2016 3:27 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:


Hi all.  I had an interesting issue with my IPhone 6 battery this 
morning.  I unplugged it at 8:30.  It was fully charged at that time.  
By 11:30 the battery was down to 35 percent and the phone felt 
slightly warm, not hot, to my touch.  I had screen brightness turned 
to zero and screen lock set to 5 minutes.  It seems like the battery 
just continued to discharge, but that’s just a guess.  Although I had 
several apps open, there was nothing like GPS that should have sucked 
my battery down so quickly.


I called Verizon and was told that I am due for an upgrade within the 
next month and am trying to decide between the SE and the 7.  I like 
the slightly smaller size of the SE, but wonder if it performs less 
well.  I would be interested to know others’ opinions and also where 
to find information that compares the two phones.


Also I’m wondering if anyone else has had this sort of quick battery 
drain.  Thanks, as always, for  your input.  I appreciate this group 
and continue to learn from the list.


God bless!

Paula and Boston

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Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357

[englishrider91]

Having just read through all the messages in this thread, I went to AppleVis 
and performed the exact same steps as Richard, and holy crap! That's absolutely 
awful! I think the accessibility people were trying to be helpful, but this is 
really not helpful. Once I understood the differences between how Windows and 
Mac/iOS handled cursor movement, I was set. I don't need to know where the 
cursor is--not through VO explisitly telling me in the manner it is in iOS 10, 
anyway. What I need VO to tell me is the letter just moved passed, like it 
always has done before this update.


Weanks,
Ari

> On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Exactly what happens when I try it. I’d really like to be in the same room as 
> that Apple Accessibility clown who says he can’t reproduce it. Maybe he 
> forgot to turn on Voiceover!
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Apple 
> Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into 
> a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357
>  
>  
> Trying to move by character from the start is even worse. It does the same 
> overly verbose "character mode insertion point between h and a in second 
> position attachment." Then, it just bongs. It won't move after that.
> Richard
> 
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>  
>  
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> 
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 7:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> Exactly my experience as far as the "attachment" is concerned. Have you tried 
> it going forward from the beginning, i.e. when you are in the edit field 
> double tap to move the insertion point to the beginning and then swipe down 
> to go forward.
> 
> I also remember that in some emails (haven't noticed it lately) Voiceover 
> would sometimes read a character about 4 or 5 spaces in from the beginning of 
> the line as "attachment". Like I said, I noticed that during the original iOS 
> 10 beta cycle, have to test it again now to see if it's still there.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 2:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: accessibil...@apple.com
> Subject: RE: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into 
> a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357
> 
> Greetings,
> I am copying Apple Accessibility and the VIPhone list on this reply.
> Following the steps described in the response below from Apple Accessibility:
> 1.  I went to applevis.com and double tapped in the search this site field.
> 2.  I entered Ham Radio
> 3.  I put focus outside of the edit field so the on screen keyboard went away.
> 4.  I double tapped on the edit field again, which brought back the onscreen 
> keyboard and VoiceOver said "incertion point at end.".
> 5.  I turned the rotor to character and flicked up and heard "ham radio, 
> character mode, incertion point between I and o in the 9th position, 
> attachment."
> 
> Before iOS 10, I would simply hear the characters as I flicked.
> This is completely too verbose for words.
> Yes, I did eventually hear the characters, but not the way any sane person 
> would want to hear them.
> And, why on Earth is it saying "attachment?"
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bug report for moving insertion point/reviewing text typed into 
> a search field in Safari; Follow-up: 651196357
> 
> Well here is one thing I don't understand. Why would you exit out of the 
> on-screen keyboard if you wanted to go back and review what you typed in the 
> search field and possibly make a correction? What's that about? Maybe this 
> person doesn't understand why we would actually use this feature?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>  
> Hi again List,
>  
> Here is the reply I received regarding the issue that seems to exist with 
> reviewing text entered into search fields on the web. Once again the person 
> who apparently dealt with my message said he or she is unable to reproduce 
> the problem. I did not yet try this on the Applevis website, but maybe others 
> can reply back to them as well giving examples from websites where they have 
> encountered this. Here is the reply:
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Apple Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:09 AM
> To: siegh...@live.ca
> Subject: Re: Bug report for moving 

Re: first questions with apple watch 2

[William Windels]

Hello again,

I found already a answer to my first question.
The watch isn’t speaking anymore if I left up my hand.
but I have some new questions:

3: when my watch is sleeping, is there any difference between waking up the 
watch with the doc-button or with a press on the digital cron?
4: it happens that I hear a sound: can be watsap, calendar, message, mail….
but I can’t see any message in the message-center.
5:  when I set the timer with siri, siri is not replying on the watch that the 
timer is running while siri response this message on the iPhone.

Many Thanx for any responses, suggestions 

Kind regards,
William Windels 

> Op 27 okt. 2016, om 17:58 heeft William Windels  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
>   He all,
> I have 2 days me apple watch 2 and after listening to some podcasts, I have 
> some questions….
> 1: while my watch is on my left arm, and I am doing the normal things, 
> (perhaps my clothesperhaps  are touching my watch),  the watch speaks without 
> asking.
> Is this normal because the watch is locked?
> One of the things to have a apple watch is that I can listen to the time 
> silently.
> 2; to undo the waterlock-feature, and my digital cron is set to use with 
> voiceover, it seems I can’t unlock the waterlock feature
> The solution I found was to set off voiceover an on again.
> Is this how it should work?
> 
> Thx for any answer.
> 
> kind regards,
> William Windels

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comparison information on the IPhone 7 and the SE

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi all.  I had an interesting issue with my IPhone 6 battery this morning.
I unplugged it at 8:30.  It was fully charged at that time.  By 11:30 the
battery was down to 35 percent and the phone felt slightly warm, not hot, to
my touch.  I had screen brightness turned to zero and screen lock set to 5
minutes.  It seems like the battery just continued to discharge, but that's
just a guess.  Although I had several apps open, there was nothing like GPS
that should have sucked my battery down so quickly.  

 

I called Verizon and was told that I am due for an upgrade within the next
month and am trying to decide between the SE and the 7.  I like the slightly
smaller size of the SE, but wonder if it performs less well.  I would be
interested to know others' opinions and also where to find information that
compares the two phones.

Also I'm wondering if anyone else has had this sort of quick battery drain.
Thanks, as always, for  your input.  I appreciate this group and continue to
learn from the list.

God bless!

Paula and Boston

 

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Re: Question on iPad mini

[Rajmund]

When was that even released? And what IOS can it handle? As for the battery, 
you can always use it off charge, when the battery goes.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini

>
>
> You could be right. Believe it or not, I still have an original iPad. Now if 
> you want to talk about slow, that's it. It is useless except for playing 
> audiobooks from audible. That's all I use it for. I'm just waiting for the 
> battery to die. I can't believe it still works after all this time.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Mary,
> > Whoa, OK, yeah, that, I'll give you. I still have my trusty 5S, with a 
> > loose, although never dropped screen, as well as the iPad air, so compared 
> > to those, mine are slow. As for voice dream, never used it, so can't 
> > comment on it. Think you're just used to things happening faster, rather 
> > than the things slowing down, if I make sense. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from a Braille Sense 
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mary Otten  
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59 pm
> > Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Well,Rajmund, maybe you are just more patient than I am. It just seems 
> >> like applications are taking quite a while to open these days, as compared 
> >> to my iPhone 7 Plus or even the 6S, which I had before I turned it in in 
> >> favor of the 7+. I am also having a lot of trouble with voice dream reader 
> >> on my mini two, crashing, slow opening, app freezing, etc. I am not having 
> >> this problem on my iPhone 7 Plus, and I didn't have it on my iPhone 6s. Of 
> >> course, I suspect that Ed's grandkids won't be using that app. So, the 
> >> mini two still works, I just think it's showing it's age.
> >> Mary
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Mary,
> >>> Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's 
> >>> the same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> >>> 
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: Mary Otten  
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> >>> 
>  
>  
>  I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be 
>  using voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. 
>  It still works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last 
>  update.. I feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini 
>  two will not be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand 
>  that you probably don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, 
>  depending on how old they are and how will they take care of stuff. But 
>  the mini four should have more years of upgrade in it than the mini 
>  twoo, at least one more year.. And there might be good deals on that 
>  coming down the line.
>  
>  Sent from my iPhone
>  
> > On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Sieghard,
> > Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give 
> > information to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a 
> > couple iPad Mini 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There 
> > is not a lot of different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip 
> > and the 4 has an a8..
> > Once again thanks for the info.
> > Ed
> > 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
> > 
> > Hi Ed,
> > 
> > If you ever want information about the models and release dates of 
> > iDevices just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini 
> > models and release info"
> > This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search 
> > results and here you find this information in a concise and
> > easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the 
> > iPad Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, 
> > it has the best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth 
> > version and the most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple 
> > still may sell the iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell 
> > the Ipad Mini 2 and definitely not the first generation. Here now the 
> > information:
> 

Re: Question on iPad mini

[Rajmund]

Hi Mary,
Whoa, OK, yeah, that, I'll give you. I still have my trusty 5S, with a loose, 
although never dropped screen, as well as the iPad air, so compared to those, 
mine are slow. As for voice dream, never used it, so can't comment on it. Think 
you're just used to things happening faster, rather than the things slowing 
down, if I make sense. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini

>
>
> Well,Rajmund, maybe you are just more patient than I am. It just seems like 
> applications are taking quite a while to open these days, as compared to my 
> iPhone 7 Plus or even the 6S, which I had before I turned it in in favor of 
> the 7+. I am also having a lot of trouble with voice dream reader on my mini 
> two, crashing, slow opening, app freezing, etc. I am not having this problem 
> on my iPhone 7 Plus, and I didn't have it on my iPhone 6s. Of course, I 
> suspect that Ed's grandkids won't be using that app. So, the mini two still 
> works, I just think it's showing it's age.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Mary,
> > Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's the 
> > same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from a Braille Sense 
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mary Otten  
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
> > Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using 
> >> voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. It 
> >> still works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last 
> >> update. I feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini 
> >> two will not be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that 
> >> you probably don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, 
> >> depending on how old they are and how will they take care of stuff. But 
> >> the mini four should have more years of upgrade in it than the mini twoo, 
> >> at least one more year. And there might be good deals on that coming down 
> >> the line.
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Sieghard,
> >>> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give 
> >>> information to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a 
> >>> couple iPad Mini 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is 
> >>> not a lot of different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and 
> >>> the 4 has an a8.
> >>> Once again thanks for the info.
> >>> Ed
> >>> 
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Ed,
> >>> 
> >>> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of 
> >>> iDevices just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models 
> >>> and release info"
> >>> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search 
> >>> results and here you find this information in a concise and
> >>> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad 
> >>> Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has 
> >>> the best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and 
> >>> the most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell 
> >>> the iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 
> >>> and definitely not the first generation. Here now the information:
> >>> 
> >>> Developer: Apple Inc.
> >>> Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
> >>> Product family: iPad
> >>> Type: Tablet computer
> >>> 
> >>> Release date
> >>> 1st generation: November 2, 2012
> >>> 2: November 12, 2013
> >>> 3: October 22, 2014
> >>> 4: September 9, 2015
> >>> 
> >>> Operating system: iOS
> >>> 
> >>> System-on-chip used
> >>> 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
> >>> 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
> >>> 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)
> >>> 
> >>> CPU
> >>> 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
> >>> 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
> >>> 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon
> >>> 
> >>> Memory
> >>> 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
> >>> 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
> >>> 4: 2048 MB RAM
> >>> 
> >>> Storage
> >>> 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
> >>> 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
> >>> 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory
> >>> 
> >>> Display
> >>> 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit 

Re: Question on iPad mini

[Mary Otten]

You could be right. Believe it or not, I still have an original iPad. Now if 
you want to talk about slow, that's it. It is useless except for playing 
audiobooks from audible. That's all I use it for. I'm just waiting for the 
battery to die. I can't believe it still works after all this time.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> Whoa, OK, yeah, that, I'll give you. I still have my trusty 5S, with a loose, 
> although never dropped screen, as well as the iPad air, so compared to those, 
> mine are slow. As for voice dream, never used it, so can't comment on it. 
> Think you're just used to things happening faster, rather than the things 
> slowing down, if I make sense. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59 pm
> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well,Rajmund, maybe you are just more patient than I am. It just seems like 
>> applications are taking quite a while to open these days, as compared to my 
>> iPhone 7 Plus or even the 6S, which I had before I turned it in in favor of 
>> the 7+. I am also having a lot of trouble with voice dream reader on my mini 
>> two, crashing, slow opening, app freezing, etc. I am not having this problem 
>> on my iPhone 7 Plus, and I didn't have it on my iPhone 6s. Of course, I 
>> suspect that Ed's grandkids won't be using that app. So, the mini two still 
>> works, I just think it's showing it's age.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's the 
>>> same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Mary Otten  
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
>>> 
 
 
 I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using 
 voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. It 
 still works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last 
 update. I feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini 
 two will not be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that 
 you probably don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, 
 depending on how old they are and how will they take care of stuff. But 
 the mini four should have more years of upgrade in it than the mini twoo, 
 at least one more year. And there might be good deals on that coming down 
 the line.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give 
> information to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a 
> couple iPad Mini 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is 
> not a lot of different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and 
> the 4 has an a8.
> Once again thanks for the info.
> Ed
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of 
> iDevices just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models 
> and release info"
> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search 
> results and here you find this information in a concise and
> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad 
> Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has 
> the best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and 
> the most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell 
> the iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 
> and definitely not the first generation. Here now the information:
> 
> Developer: Apple Inc.
> Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
> Product family: iPad
> Type: Tablet computer
> 
> Release date
> 1st generation: November 2, 2012
> 2: November 12, 2013
> 3: October 22, 2014
> 4: September 9, 2015
> 
> Operating system: iOS
> 
> System-on-chip used
> 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
> 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
> 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)
> 
> CPU
> 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM 

Re: Question on iPad mini

[Mary Otten]

Well,Rajmund, maybe you are just more patient than I am. It just seems like 
applications are taking quite a while to open these days, as compared to my 
iPhone 7 Plus or even the 6S, which I had before I turned it in in favor of the 
7+. I am also having a lot of trouble with voice dream reader on my mini two, 
crashing, slow opening, app freezing, etc. I am not having this problem on my 
iPhone 7 Plus, and I didn't have it on my iPhone 6s. Of course, I suspect that 
Ed's grandkids won't be using that app. So, the mini two still works, I just 
think it's showing it's age.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's the 
> same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using 
>> voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. It still 
>> works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last update. I 
>> feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini two will not 
>> be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that you probably 
>> don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, depending on how old 
>> they are and how will they take care of stuff. But the mini four should have 
>> more years of upgrade in it than the mini twoo, at least one more year. And 
>> there might be good deals on that coming down the line.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard,
>>> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give information 
>>> to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a couple iPad Mini 
>>> 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is not a lot of 
>>> different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and the 4 has an a8.
>>> Once again thanks for the info.
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
>>> 
>>> Hi Ed,
>>> 
>>> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of iDevices 
>>> just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models and release 
>>> info"
>>> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search results 
>>> and here you find this information in a concise and
>>> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad 
>>> Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has the 
>>> best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and the 
>>> most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell the 
>>> iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 and 
>>> definitely not the first generation. Here now the information:
>>> 
>>> Developer: Apple Inc.
>>> Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
>>> Product family: iPad
>>> Type: Tablet computer
>>> 
>>> Release date
>>> 1st generation: November 2, 2012
>>> 2: November 12, 2013
>>> 3: October 22, 2014
>>> 4: September 9, 2015
>>> 
>>> Operating system: iOS
>>> 
>>> System-on-chip used
>>> 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
>>> 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
>>> 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)
>>> 
>>> CPU
>>> 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
>>> 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
>>> 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon
>>> 
>>> Memory
>>> 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
>>> 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
>>> 4: 2048 MB RAM
>>> 
>>> Storage
>>> 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
>>> 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
>>> 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory
>>> 
>>> Display
>>> 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
>>> technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio
>>> 1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi
>>> 2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)
>>> 4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating
>>> 
>>> Graphics
>>> 1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2
>>> 2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430
>>> 4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450
>>> 
>>> Input
>>> Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light sensors, 
>>> 3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass
>>> 
>>> Camera
>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP
>>> 4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP
>>> 
>>> Connectivity
>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
>>> 4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
>>> 1st generation, 2 & 3: 

Re: Question on iPad mini

[Rajmund]

Hi Mary,
Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's the 
same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini

>
>
> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using 
> voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. It still 
> works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last update. I 
> feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini two will not be 
> on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that you probably don't 
> want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, depending on how old they are 
> and how will they take care of stuff. But the mini four should have more 
> years of upgrade in it than the mini twoo, at least one more year. And there 
> might be good deals on that coming down the line.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Sieghard,
> > Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give information 
> > to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a couple iPad Mini 
> > 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is not a lot of 
> > different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and the 4 has an a8.
> > Once again thanks for the info.
> > Ed
> >  
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Sieghard Weitzel
> > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
> >  
> > Hi Ed,
> >  
> > If you ever want information about the models and release dates of iDevices 
> > just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models and release 
> > info"
> > This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search results 
> > and here you find this information in a concise and
> > easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad 
> > Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has the 
> > best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and the 
> > most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell the 
> > iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 and 
> > definitely not the first generation. Here now the information:
> >  
> > Developer: Apple Inc.
> > Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
> > Product family: iPad
> > Type: Tablet computer
> >  
> > Release date
> > 1st generation: November 2, 2012
> > 2: November 12, 2013
> > 3: October 22, 2014
> > 4: September 9, 2015
> >  
> > Operating system: iOS
> >  
> > System-on-chip used
> > 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
> > 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
> > 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)
> >  
> > CPU
> > 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
> > 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
> > 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon
> >  
> > Memory
> > 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
> > 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
> > 4: 2048 MB RAM
> >  
> > Storage
> > 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
> > 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
> > 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory
> >  
> > Display
> > 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
> > technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio
> > 1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi
> > 2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)
> > 4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating
> >  
> > Graphics
> > 1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2
> > 2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430
> > 4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450
> >  
> > Input
> > Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light sensors, 
> > 3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass
> >  
> > Camera
> > 1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP
> > 4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP
> >  
> > Connectivity
> > 1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> > 4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> > 1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0
> > 4: Bluetooth 4.2
> >  
> > GSM: LTE  (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz)   .  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 
> > 1900, 2100 MHz)   .  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)  
> > CDMA: LTE  (750, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100 (Band 1) MHz)   .  CDMA / EV-DO Rev. 
> > A & B  (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)   .  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 1900, 
> > 2100 MHz)   .  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)   
> >  
> > Power
> > 1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W.h (4440 mA.h)
> > 2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W.h (6471 mA.h)
> > 4: 3.82 V 19.32 W.h (5124 mA.h)
> >  
> > Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, iMessage
> >  
> > Dimensions
> > 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 

Re: Please repost: link to new website?

[Mary Otten]

This has nothing to do with Apple this. This is an Apple site. Apple Vis is a 
community organized and run site. Totally separate.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:31 PM, Terrie Terlau  wrote:
> 
> Does this new apple accessibility site take the place of Applevis or is 
> Applevis still up and running?
> Thanks. Sorry if this is obvious to most of you!
> Terrie Terlau
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 11:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Please repost: link to new website?
> 
> And if you forget again you can simply go to www.Apple.com and click on the 
> "Accessibility" link which will take you straight to the accessibility site. 
> It can be easily found by using Jaws Key+F7 to bring up the list of links on 
> the main page and start typing "Accessibility", you get there after the first 
> couple of letters or you can use the Jaws Find feature and search for it. I'm 
> sure if you use a different screen reader you know the equivalent commands.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 4:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Please repost: link to new website?
> 
> Here you go, Jennifer.
> 
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
> 
>> On 10/28/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> I lost the email with the link to the new apple accessibility website. 
>> Can someone please repost it?
>> Thanks and I appologize for any inconvenience.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Question on iPad mini

[Mary Otten]

I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using 
voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. It still 
works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last update. I feel 
sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini two will not be on 
board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that you probably don't want 
to buy a really expensive thing for kids, depending on how old they are and how 
will they take care of stuff. But the mini four should have more years of 
upgrade in it than the mini twoo, at least one more year. And there might be 
good deals on that coming down the line.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give information 
> to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a couple iPad Mini 
> 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is not a lot of 
> different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and the 4 has an a8.
> Once again thanks for the info.
> Ed
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
>  
> Hi Ed,
>  
> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of iDevices 
> just Google, to use your example of the iPad: “iPad Mini models and release 
> info”
> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search results 
> and here you find this information in a concise and
> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad 
> Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has the 
> best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and the 
> most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell the iPad 
> Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 and definitely 
> not the first generation. Here now the information:
>  
> Developer: Apple Inc.
> Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
> Product family: iPad
> Type: Tablet computer
>  
> Release date
> 1st generation: November 2, 2012
> 2: November 12, 2013
> 3: October 22, 2014
> 4: September 9, 2015
>  
> Operating system: iOS
>  
> System-on-chip used
> 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
> 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
> 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)
>  
> CPU
> 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
> 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
> 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon
>  
> Memory
> 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
> 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
> 4: 2048 MB RAM
>  
> Storage
> 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
> 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
> 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory
>  
> Display
> 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
> technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio
> 1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi
> 2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)
> 4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating
>  
> Graphics
> 1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2
> 2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430
> 4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450
>  
> Input
> Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light sensors, 
> 3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass
>  
> Camera
> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP
> 4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP
>  
> Connectivity
> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> 4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0
> 4: Bluetooth 4.2
>  
> GSM: LTE  (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz)   ·  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 
> 1900, 2100 MHz)   ·  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)  
> CDMA: LTE  (750, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100 (Band 1) MHz)   ·  CDMA / EV-DO Rev. A 
> & B  (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)   ·  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 1900, 
> 2100 MHz)   ·  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)   
>  
> Power
> 1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W·h (4440 mA·h)
> 2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W·h (6471 mA·h)
> 4: 3.82 V 19.32 W·h (5124 mA·h)
>  
> Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, iMessage
>  
> Dimensions
> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)
> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)
> 2 & 3: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.29 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.4 mm)
> 4: 8.0 in × 5.3 in × 0.24 in (203.2 mm × 134.6 m
>  
>  
> Weight
> 1st generation: Wi-Fi: 0.68 lb (308 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.69 lb (312 g)
> 2 & 3: Wi-Fi: 0.73 lb (330 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.75 lb (340 g)
> 4: Wi-Fi: 0.65 lb (298.8 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.67 lb (304 g)
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Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[gs]

Well, there are still times when it won't work for me. However, it may not 
always be necessary to completely reboot.

Just clear the memory. Hold the sleep/wake button for three seconds until you 
see the option to power off.

Then press and hold the home button for six to eight seconds depending on which 
phone you have.

Try loading Money Reader and recognizing currency again.

On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:

Yes indeed. Thank you and Richard for the suggestion, and Money Reader is now 
working great.
Evan
 
From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 12:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader
 
Hi,
Have you rebooted since install? I ask because sometimes Money Reader goes into 
a coma here and though it’s running won’t identify money but if I reboot it’ll 
spring back to life.
Good luck.
Robin
 
 
From: Evan Reese <>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:34 PM
To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader
 
Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.
But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.
I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.
Evan
 
From: Richard Turner <>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM
To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader
 
Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?
I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.
HTH,
Richard
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader
 
I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.
I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.
So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.
But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.
I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.
I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.
I am now more mystified than ever.
Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks very much.
Evan
 
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RE: Please repost: link to new website?

[Terrie Terlau]

Does this new apple accessibility site take the place of Applevis or is 
Applevis still up and running?
Thanks. Sorry if this is obvious to most of you!
Terrie Terlau
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 11:10 AM
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And if you forget again you can simply go to www.Apple.com and click on the 
"Accessibility" link which will take you straight to the accessibility site. It 
can be easily found by using Jaws Key+F7 to bring up the list of links on the 
main page and start typing "Accessibility", you get there after the first 
couple of letters or you can use the Jaws Find feature and search for it. I'm 
sure if you use a different screen reader you know the equivalent commands.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Here you go, Jennifer.

http://www.apple.com/accessibility/

On 10/28/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> Hi all.
> I lost the email with the link to the new apple accessibility website. 
> Can someone please repost it?
> Thanks and I appologize for any inconvenience.
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RE: Syncing Appointments with IPhone and Outlook on PC

[Terrie Terlau]

Hi Jenn,

Thank you! This is just the information I was hoping for!

Terrie

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 3:28 PM
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Subject: RE: Syncing Appointments with IPhone and Outlook on PC

 

Hi Terrie,

 

If you use Outlook, you can download the iCloud app for windows, and tell it to 
sync with Outlook. If not, I’m really not sure.

 

Jenn

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terrie Terlau
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:55 AM
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Subject: Syncing Appointments with IPhone and Outlook on PC

 

Well, the subject of my previous message did not say it all: it said totally 
nothing! I resend my request for info about how to get the same appointments on 
my PC Outlook calendar that I schedule on the iPhone calendar so that those, 
like me, who don’t trust messages without a subject, will see my email!

Thanks for any advice you can give.

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RE: Syncing Appointments with IPhone and Outlook on PC

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Terrie,

 

If you use Outlook, you can download the iCloud app for windows, and tell it to 
sync with Outlook. If not, I’m really not sure.

 

Jenn

 

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Terrie Terlau
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Syncing Appointments with IPhone and Outlook on PC

 

Well, the subject of my previous message did not say it all: it said totally 
nothing! I resend my request for info about how to get the same appointments on 
my PC Outlook calendar that I schedule on the iPhone calendar so that those, 
like me, who don’t trust messages without a subject, will see my email!

Thanks for any advice you can give.

Terrie Terlau

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RE: Question on iPad mini

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Sieghard,

Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give information to 
my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a couple iPad Mini 2. 
They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is not a lot of different 
between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and the 4 has an a8.

Once again thanks for the info.

Ed

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini

 

Hi Ed,

 

If you ever want information about the models and release dates of iDevices 
just Google, to use your example of the iPad: “iPad Mini models and release 
info”

This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search results and 
here you find this information in a concise and 

easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad Mini 
4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has the best 
chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and the most RAM 
as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell the iPad Mini 3, but 
I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 and definitely not the first 
generation. Here now the information:

 

Developer: Apple Inc.

Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]

Product family: iPad

Type: Tablet computer

 

Release date

1st generation: November 2, 2012

2: November 12, 2013

3: October 22, 2014

4: September 9, 2015

 

Operating system: iOS

 

System-on-chip used

1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)

2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)

4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)

 

CPU

1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9

2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone

4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon

 

Memory

1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM

2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM

4: 2048 MB RAM 

 

Storage

1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory

2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]

3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory 

 

Display

7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio

1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi

2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)

4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating 

 

Graphics

1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2

2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430

4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450 

 

Input

Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light sensors, 
3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass 

 

Camera

1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP

4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP 

 

Connectivity

1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz

4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz

1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0

4: Bluetooth 4.2

 

GSM: LTE  (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz)   ·  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 
1900, 2100 MHz)   ·  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)   

CDMA: LTE  (750, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100 (Band 1) MHz)   ·  CDMA / EV-DO Rev. A & 
B  (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)   ·  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 1900, 2100 
MHz)   ·  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

 

Power

1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W·h (4440 mA·h)

2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W·h (6471 mA·h)

4: 3.82 V 19.32 W·h (5124 mA·h) 

 

Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, iMessage 

 

Dimensions

1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)

1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)

2 & 3: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.29 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.4 mm)

4: 8.0 in × 5.3 in × 0.24 in (203.2 mm × 134.6 m 

 

 

Weight

1st generation: Wi-Fi: 0.68 lb (308 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.69 lb (312 g)

2 & 3: Wi-Fi: 0.73 lb (330 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.75 lb (340 g)

4: Wi-Fi: 0.65 lb (298.8 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.67 lb (304 g)

 

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RE: What is the name of that app?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The ability to “block” numbers is built into iOS. Go to Settings > Phone > 
Blocked Numbers. You can also block a number from the recent call list, just 
tap on the “More” button and then double tap to block the number near the 
bottom.
Of course these numbers aren’t actually blocked, if somebody whom you block 
calls you they won’t get a message that they are blocked, but you won’t notice 
that they have called, I believe their calls don’t even show up in the recent 
call list. I doubt any app can actually totally block a call, this would have 
to be done by your provider/carrier and I think many carriers do offer this for 
a monthly fee.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 11:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is the name of that app?


Within the past two weeks on one of these lists, someone mentioned an IOS app 
which blocked receipt of phone calls and texts from persons and numbers not in 
your contacts.  At the time I thought that the poster called the app as call 
dnd+, but when I look in the app store, I find no such app and nothing remotely 
resembling the name.  Incidentally, for those with punctuation turned off, 
there is a plus sign after the letters dnd.



Can anyone provide the exact name for this app?



Thanks.



Don Roberts


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Re: Currency converter app

[Paul Richard McGann]

thank you siega, and I check on it.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Currency converter app

Hi Richard,

Looktel Money Reader is now called "Nand Money Reader". Kim was actually 
looking for an app which converts currency, e.g. US Dollars to Euros, 
British Pounds to US Dollars etc.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Paul Richard McGann

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Currency converter app

I still have looktel money reader since and yes I did pay for almost twenty 
dollars as it works for five years, and it is still working well.


wink!

sincerely,
rich


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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 1:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Currency converter app

Hi Kim,

I checked out a few, but many seem to be not that accessible. If you don't 
get a good recommendation you might want to check out Applevis.com. Keep in 
mind that you can ask SIRI to convert currency for you or if you go to 
Google.com in Safari or use the Google app you can also do currency 
conversions. If you use the Google app you can also use your voice, e.g.
"Convert 60 british pounds to canadian Dollars". Otherwise you can type your 
query in the following format (I am using the same example):


60 gbp in cad

This also works great on a desktop or laptop, Google displays the result of 
the conversion before all the other search results for online conversion 
sites etc.
Google and SIRI, by the way, gave me the exact same result for the 60 
british pounds to canadian dollar conversion.



Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Kimberly Samco

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:13 AM
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Subject: Currency converter app

Hello,

Can anyone recommend an accessible currency converter app?

Thank you,

Kim


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RE: Currency converter app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

Looktel Money Reader is now called "Nand Money Reader". Kim was actually 
looking for an app which converts currency, e.g. US Dollars to Euros, British 
Pounds to US Dollars etc.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Richard McGann
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Currency converter app

I still have looktel money reader since and yes I did pay for almost twenty 
dollars as it works for five years, and it is still working well.

wink!

sincerely,
rich


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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 1:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Currency converter app

Hi Kim,

I checked out a few, but many seem to be not that accessible. If you don't get 
a good recommendation you might want to check out Applevis.com. Keep in mind 
that you can ask SIRI to convert currency for you or if you go to Google.com in 
Safari or use the Google app you can also do currency conversions. If you use 
the Google app you can also use your voice, e.g. 
"Convert 60 british pounds to canadian Dollars". Otherwise you can type your 
query in the following format (I am using the same example):

60 gbp in cad

This also works great on a desktop or laptop, Google displays the result of the 
conversion before all the other search results for online conversion sites etc.
Google and SIRI, by the way, gave me the exact same result for the 60 british 
pounds to canadian dollar conversion.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:13 AM
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Subject: Currency converter app

Hello,

Can anyone recommend an accessible currency converter app?

Thank you,

Kim


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Re: Currency converter app

[Paul Richard McGann]

I still have looktel money reader since and yes I did pay for almost twenty 
dollars as it works for five years, and it is still working well.


wink!

sincerely,
rich


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From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 1:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Currency converter app

Hi Kim,

I checked out a few, but many seem to be not that accessible. If you don't 
get a good recommendation you might want to check out Applevis.com. Keep in 
mind that you can ask SIRI to convert currency for you or if you go to 
Google.com in Safari or use the Google app you can also do currency 
conversions. If you use the Google app you can also use your voice, e.g. 
"Convert 60 british pounds to canadian Dollars". Otherwise you can type your 
query in the following format (I am using the same example):


60 gbp in cad

This also works great on a desktop or laptop, Google displays the result of 
the conversion before all the other search results for online conversion 
sites etc.
Google and SIRI, by the way, gave me the exact same result for the 60 
british pounds to canadian dollar conversion.



Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:13 AM
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Subject: Currency converter app

Hello,

Can anyone recommend an accessible currency converter app?

Thank you,

Kim


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What is the name of that app?

[Donald L. Roberts]

Within the past two weeks on one of these lists, someone mentioned an 
IOS app which blocked receipt of phone calls and texts from persons and 
numbers not in your contacts. At the time I thought that the poster 
called the app as call dnd+, but when I look in the app store, I find no 
such app and nothing remotely resembling the name.  Incidentally, for 
those with punctuation turned off, there is a plus sign after the 
letters dnd.



Can anyone provide the exact name for this app?


Thanks.


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RE: Currency converter app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Kim,

I checked out a few, but many seem to be not that accessible. If you don't get 
a good recommendation you might want to check out Applevis.com. Keep in mind 
that you can ask SIRI to convert currency for you or if you go to Google.com in 
Safari or use the Google app you can also do currency conversions. If you use 
the Google app you can also use your voice, e.g. "Convert 60 british pounds to 
canadian Dollars". Otherwise you can type your query in the following format (I 
am using the same example):

60 gbp in cad

This also works great on a desktop or laptop, Google displays the result of the 
conversion before all the other search results for online conversion sites etc.
Google and SIRI, by the way, gave me the exact same result for the 60 british 
pounds to canadian dollar conversion.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:13 AM
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Subject: Currency converter app

Hello,

Can anyone recommend an accessible currency converter app?

Thank you,

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Syncing Appointments with IPhone and Outlook on PC

[Terrie Terlau]

Well, the subject of my previous message did not say it all: it said totally
nothing! I resend my request for info about how to get the same appointments
on my PC Outlook calendar that I schedule on the iPhone calendar so that
those, like me, who don't trust messages without a subject, will see my
email!

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Syncing iPhone Calendar with Outlook, Can This Be Done?

[Terrie Terlau]

Subject says it all. I schedule appointments on my 6 S Plus iPhone's
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Can I do this somehow:? Is there a way to tell Siri to send an appointment
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Currency converter app

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Hello,

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Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Evan Reese]

Yes indeed. Thank you and Richard for the suggestion, and Money Reader is now 
working great.
Evan

From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 12:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Hi,
Have you rebooted since install? I ask because sometimes Money Reader goes into 
a coma here and though it’s running won’t identify money but if I reboot it’ll 
spring back to life.
Good luck.
Robin


From: Evan Reese 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.
But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.
I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.
Evan

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

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Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Despite that you may still want to check in Settings > Privacy to make sure it 
really is allowing access to the camera.
Also, and this is probably something you know so don’t get mad at me for 
mentioning it, you are using the rear camera, right?

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Yup, it was the first thing both programs asked me when I first opened them, 
and I hit the Okay button to allow access to the camera.
I’ll try the rebooting suggestion and see what happens.
Evan

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 1:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Have you allowed them access to the camera? Usually the app will prompt you to 
do so when you first open it, but if you somehow skipped over this you can go 
to Settings > Privacy and see if Money Reader is allowed access to the camera 
in the camera section.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.
But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.
I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.
Evan

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?
I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.
HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.
I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.
So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.
But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.
I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.
I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.
I am now more mystified than ever.
Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks very much.
Evan

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Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Evan Reese]

Well hey! Once again, Richard, your suggestion was very helpful. The rebooting 
did the trick, at least for the NantMobile Money Reader. It works great now. It 
even warned me that there was no light. Being totally blind, I don’t turn the 
light on in my office unless I need it for TapTapSee, or someone comes in who 
needs it, and I tend to even forget that it’s dark in here. Once I turned the 
light on, it identified several bills pretty quickly.
Eyenote, however, is still not working. That’s unfortunate, but I’m not going 
to worry about it because I now have a great app for identifying money, so I’ll 
probably just delete that one.
Thanks a lot for helping me get over this hurdle; and this is all good info in 
the event that I have trouble finding an app or getting it to work in the 
future.
Evan

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

As Sieghard said, make sure you gave permission to the app to access the camera.

If you don’t recall doing that, go to Settings and find each app in the list 
and check that they are allowed to use the camera.

If they are and they still don’t work, then rebooting is for sure the step to 
try.

If none of that works, delete the app and reinstall it.

I’ve never had both apps not giving me results at the same time.

One or the other always works.

I’d do the power plus home button held for about 7 or 8 seconds then released 
as the rebooting method of choice.

 

Good luck,

Richard

.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.

But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.

I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.

Evan

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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RE: Question on iPad mini

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Ed,

If you ever want information about the models and release dates of iDevices 
just Google, to use your example of the iPad: “iPad Mini models and release 
info”
This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search results and 
here you find this information in a concise and
easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad Mini 
4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has the best 
chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and the most RAM 
as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell the iPad Mini 3, but 
I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 and definitely not the first 
generation. Here now the information:

Developer: Apple Inc.
Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
Product family: iPad
Type: Tablet computer

Release date
1st generation: November 2, 2012
2: November 12, 2013
3: October 22, 2014
4: September 9, 2015

Operating system: iOS

System-on-chip used
1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)

CPU
1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon

Memory
1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
4: 2048 MB RAM

Storage
1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory

Display
7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio
1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi
2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)
4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating

Graphics
1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2
2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430
4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450

Input
Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light sensors, 
3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass

Camera
1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP
4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP

Connectivity
1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0
4: Bluetooth 4.2

GSM: LTE  (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz)   ·  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 
1900, 2100 MHz)   ·  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA: LTE  (750, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100 (Band 1) MHz)   ·  CDMA / EV-DO Rev. A & 
B  (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)   ·  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 1900, 2100 
MHz)   ·  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

Power
1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W·h (4440 mA·h)
2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W·h (6471 mA·h)
4: 3.82 V 19.32 W·h (5124 mA·h)

Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, iMessage

Dimensions
1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)
1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)
2 & 3: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.29 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.4 mm)
4: 8.0 in × 5.3 in × 0.24 in (203.2 mm × 134.6 m


Weight
1st generation: Wi-Fi: 0.68 lb (308 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.69 lb (312 g)
2 & 3: Wi-Fi: 0.73 lb (330 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.75 lb (340 g)
4: Wi-Fi: 0.65 lb (298.8 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.67 lb (304 g)

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Re: Question on iPad mini

[Mary Otten]

 Yes, the mini four came out last year. But it has the 2014 chip in it, which 
means it's two years old in terms of its core technology.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> They started out with the iPad mini 1. I don't think you will find that 
> though. I believe they started coming out with iPad minis in 2013. I could be 
> wrong. The latest one came out in 2015 called the iPad mini 4. I belie the 
> iPad mini 2 came out in 2014. Have a great day.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> 
> 
> Jennie Facer 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mr. Ed  
> To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
> CC: 
> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:03 am
> Subject: Question on iPad mini
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Group,
>> I am looking at an iPad Mini for my grandson.  Can someone tell me what the 
>> first iPad Mini was called. Another words was it an iPad Mini 2? I don't 
>> remember what model they started out with. Also which model is the latest 
>> one? Also can anyone give me what year the models came out. For example what 
>> year about did the iPad Mini 2 come out?
>> Thanks for any help on this.
>> Ed
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Re: Question on iPad mini

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Ed,

They started out with the iPad mini 1. I don't think you will find that though. 
I believe they started coming out with iPad minis in 2013. I could be wrong. 
The latest one came out in 2015 called the iPad mini 4. I belie the iPad mini 2 
came out in 2014. Have a great day.

Jenn



Jennie Facer 

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Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:03 am
Subject: Question on iPad mini

>
>
> Hi Group,
> I am looking at an iPad Mini for my grandson.  Can someone tell me what the 
> first iPad Mini was called. Another words was it an iPad Mini 2? I don't 
> remember what model they started out with. Also which model is the latest 
> one? Also can anyone give me what year the models came out. For example what 
> year about did the iPad Mini 2 come out?
> Thanks for any help on this.
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Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Evan Reese]

Yup, it was the first thing both programs asked me when I first opened them, 
and I hit the Okay button to allow access to the camera.
I’ll try the rebooting suggestion and see what happens.
Evan

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 1:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Have you allowed them access to the camera? Usually the app will prompt you to 
do so when you first open it, but if you somehow skipped over this you can go 
to Settings > Privacy and see if Money Reader is allowed access to the camera 
in the camera section.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.

But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.

I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.

Evan

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Evan Reese]

Hi Larry,
Well, some people are having problems and some aren’t. It’s a mystery for sure.
Evan

From: Larry Lumpkin 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 12:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Sorry Evan.   I’ve got the app on a new iphone 7 running ios 10 and it works 
fine.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.

But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.

I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.

Evan

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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RE: Spodify subscription question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Same thing, maybe you didn't see this, but when I replied originally I 
mentioned that I usually also use gift cards which I buy when they are 20% off 
to put a couple of hundred Dollars on my account, this then pays for our Apple 
Music Family subscription which here in Canada is $15/month or $180 a year and 
my 50 Gb of iCloud storage which I think is a bit over a Dollar here. This way 
Apple Music effectively costs me only $12 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 6:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Spodify subscription question

What about apple music or icloud?
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:18 AM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> It *definitely* will. I always pay for my subscriptions with gift cards, and 
> not once do I remember Apple using my stored payment info unless they have to 
> of course, such as recovering any outstanding balances because of the gift 
> card having insufficient funds.
>> On 28 Oct 2016, at 03:20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> It should, works fine for an Apple Music subscription so unless Apple 
>> somehow doesn't allow third-party subscriptions it should be fine.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:23 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>> Cc: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Spodify subscription question
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>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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>> Hi:
>> I have my spodify subscription paid through itunes. If I get an itunes card, 
>> will that pay for my subscription?
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RE: Please repost: link to new website?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And if you forget again you can simply go to www.Apple.com and click on the 
"Accessibility" link which will take you straight to the accessibility site. It 
can be easily found by using Jaws Key+F7 to bring up the list of links on the 
main page and start typing "Accessibility", you get there after the first 
couple of letters or you can use the Jaws Find feature and search for it. I'm 
sure if you use a different screen reader you know the equivalent commands.

Regards,
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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 4:14 AM
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Subject: Re: Please repost: link to new website?

Here you go, Jennifer.

http://www.apple.com/accessibility/

On 10/28/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> Hi all.
> I lost the email with the link to the new apple accessibility website. 
> Can someone please repost it?
> Thanks and I appologize for any inconvenience.
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Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Hi Evan,

Have you tried just holding the bill in front of the camera and giving
it a couple of seconds?  Sometimes, depending on the bill, it might not
work.  I know that here in Canada, some of the new types of bills don't
work.

Just a thought!


From:   "Russ Kiehne" 
To: 
Date:   2016/10/28 9:48 AM
Subject:Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money
Reader

I have this app on my ipod touch 5th generation and it works fine.

From: Larry Lumpkin 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Sorry Evan.   I’ve got the app on a new iphone 7 running ios 10 and
it works fine.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only,
and I was able to download both apps.

But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front
of my camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing.
I know the camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after
trying Eyenote and the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.

I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can
identify any money with them.

Evan

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money
Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night,
but it won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the
night before last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better
than Siri on one of his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine
using iTunes. And, this morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1
with iTunes, and it also transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes
prior to and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is
there a way to make iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try
it again? Right now the download button is disabled. I've connected my
iPad to my laptop several times, and every time, iTunes says that it's
synchronizing, and makes that sound when it's done, but the app doesn't
appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes
won't transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the
BARD app and the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I
tried the name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it
several times, NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any
results, I tried just Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the
money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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RE: Two factor authentication issues?

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi Mary,

A friend of mine found out after enabling 2 factor authentication that his 
Apple TV third generation didn't work with it.  He had to disable it.

Ron & Danvers  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't have 
any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code doesn't 
come or whatever, essentially making your two factor authentication unusable 
and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk about some 
major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow up message, with 
this system. So I was wondering what they were.
 That would be a problem.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
> 
> I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you get a 
> text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading numbers and 
> getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time out I have opted 
> not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given absolutely no choice!  I know 
> it is supposed to be more secure, but for me it has been distressing because 
> I generally can't get it done fast enough to make it count.  
> Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those without I 
> suspect.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
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> 
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> Subject: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two factor 
> authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that included a 
> link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I made. This link 
> will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am interested in the 
> details of the problems that arise with two factor authentication. I gave 
> them my mobile phone number where they could send the six digit code that 
> will be needed when and if I get a new Apple device where I log in with my 
> Apple ID. I certainly don't want some unsolvable problem happening down the 
> road. So what are the issues? Is it something that happens when you're trying 
> to enable two factor authentication? In that case, mine is already done, so 
> no problem. If it is a problem that happens when you're actually trying to 
> start using a new device, that's another matter, and would make me consider 
> revoking my two factor authentication.
> Mary
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Question on iPad mini

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Group,

I am looking at an iPad Mini for my grandson.  Can someone tell me what the
first iPad Mini was called. Another words was it an iPad Mini 2? I don't
remember what model they started out with. Also which model is the latest
one? Also can anyone give me what year the models came out. For example what
year about did the iPad Mini 2 come out?

Thanks for any help on this.

Ed

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Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Russ Kiehne]

I have this app on my ipod touch 5th generation and it works fine.

From: Larry Lumpkin 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Sorry Evan.   I’ve got the app on a new iphone 7 running ios 10 and it works 
fine.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.

But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.

I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.

Evan

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?

I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

 

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.

I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.

So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.

But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.

I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.

I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.

I am now more mystified than ever.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks very much.

Evan

 

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Re: Music on an 8G iPhone

[Russ Kiehne]

Or you have the option of using the YiKaiEn iReader USB SDHC SDXC Micro SD 
OTG Card Reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Music on an 8G iPhone

If she wants free music then her best option is an app like Tune In or 
iHeart radio where she can listen to tons of music for free. If she wants to 
listen to specific music and doesn't mind paying $10 a month I would totally 
recommend she gets an Apple music subscription. As long as she is on WiFi or 
has a data connection and if she has a big enough data plan she never has to 
store a single song on her phone. She can also tell SIRI what she wants to 
listen to and, if you want access and share it with her, you culd subscribe 
to an Apple Music family plan for $14.99 and I think up to 4 people can be 
added to that. The $9.99 and $14.99 is what is costs in Canada, maybe it is 
the same otherwise chances are it might even be less in the US since $10 
Canadian at the current exchange rate is only around $7.50 US. Another way 
to knock 10, 15 or 20% off that subscription cost is to look for discounted 
iTunes gift cards and put enough credit on your account to cover the 
subscription for a year, e.g. if it is $10 a month then buy $120 worth of 
iTunes gift cards which, if you find a 20% off deal would only cost $96 in 
actual cash and then put these on your account and unless you buy other 
stuff this would cover a whole year of Apple Music.
There are of course other subscriptions like Spotify, Deezer etc., but for 
me Apple Music is the way to go if you are into Apple devices.



Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dani Pagador

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:25 AM
To: iPhone for visually impaired 
Subject: Music on an 8G iPhone

Hi, Everyone.
My Mom's got an iPhone with only 8G of storage. She asked about being able 
to listen to music with it.


What are the options I can tell her about? I know about Pandora and Last 
FM--have to learn to use these myself.


But what are her options if she wants to purchase music through iTunes? Can 
she store her music in the Cloud and use either Wifi or her data plan when 
she wants to listen?


Thanks,
Dani

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Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

[Davy Cuppens]

Oh Sieghard you are completely right. I notice that logging in on windows 
internet explorer is totally not accessible for icloud services.

In former times I read my icloud mail by windows live mail but after setting 
2steps verification after the last ios update, this is nolonger possible too.
Regards 
Davy 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 4:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

Not bad, now they just have to do the same for iCloud.com and their surveys.

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

 

The new web site is:

http://www.apple.com/accessibility/



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Oct 27, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:

  Here's a link to the podcast: 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665?mt=2#episodeGuid=http%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fapple_keynotes%2F2016%2FOct_2016_SD.m4v


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RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

[Richard Turner]

As Sieghard said, make sure you gave permission to the app to access the camera.
If you don’t recall doing that, go to Settings and find each app in the list 
and check that they are allowed to use the camera.
If they are and they still don’t work, then rebooting is for sure the step to 
try.
If none of that works, delete the app and reinstall it.
I’ve never had both apps not giving me results at the same time.
One or the other always works.
I’d do the power plus home button held for about 7 or 8 seconds then released 
as the rebooting method of choice.

Good luck,
Richard
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Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Well, thanks to your suggestion, I changed the search to iPhone Only, and I was 
able to download both apps.
But unfortunately neither of them works. I waved a dollar bill in front of my 
camera repeatedly while each app was running and it said nothing. I know the 
camera works because I opened TapTapSee immediately after trying Eyenote and 
the NantMobile Reader, and the camera works fine.
I guess I’ll have to wait for these apps to be updated before I can identify 
any money with them.
Evan

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

Are you changing the search from iPad apps to iPhone apps?
I don’t think it comes up as an iPad app.
HTH,
Richard


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Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange Problems Getting the NantMobile Money Reader

I’m having some very strange issues getting the NantMobile Money Reader.
I have an iPad Mini 4, and I downloaded the app with iTunes last night, but it 
won't transfer to my iPad. I downloaded the Google Search app the night before 
last, (thanks to Jonathan for showing that it works better than Siri on one of 
his recent Explosions), and it transfered just fine using iTunes. And, this 
morning, I bought the Hourly News app for $1 with iTunes, and it also 
transfered just fine.
So I'm a bit mystified. I've been able to install apps using iTunes prior to 
and after the NantMobile Money Reader, but not that one. Is there a way to make 
iTunes forget that I downloaded the app so I can try it again? Right now the 
download button is disabled. I've connected my iPad to my laptop several times, 
and every time, iTunes says that it's synchronizing, and makes that sound when 
it's done, but the app doesn't appear.
But that’s not the end of it. Things get stranger.
I tried to find the app with my iPad directly, thinking that if iTunes won't 
transfer it, I could install it that way. I've done it with the BARD app and 
the free version of the Tunein app with no problems.
I can't find it. I did a search on the app store with no results. I tried the 
name exactly as it appears, entering carefully and checking it several times, 
NantMobile Money Reader, and when that didn't yield any results, I tried just 
Mobile Money Reader with some results, but not the money reader.
I am now more mystified than ever.
Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks very much.
Evan

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What about apple music or icloud?
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:18 AM, christopher hallsworth  
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> It *definitely* will. I always pay for my subscriptions with gift cards, and 
> not once do I remember Apple using my stored payment info unless they have to 
> of course, such as recovering any outstanding balances because of the gift 
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>> On 28 Oct 2016, at 03:20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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>> It should, works fine for an Apple Music subscription so unless Apple 
>> somehow doesn't allow third-party subscriptions it should be fine.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
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Re: Two factor authentication issues?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
thank you I was worried about myself for a minute there (laughs).
I'm glad I hadn't stated it or imagined it wrongly.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Vicky Collins

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 6:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

You are indeed correct. The old two-step verification uses the recovery key, 
while the two-factor authentication does not have that option. I made the 
change to the 2FA a few months ago.


- Original Message -
From: Robin Frost  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:57 pm
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?




Hi,
Wow in iOS 10.0.2 I think it was at the time no such option was presented
during phone setup at all; nor did the lovely Apple rep who guided me
through my very rare spell of panic indicate that such could be used
anymore.  To further confuse matters I thought there were two variations 
of

Apple's tfa and the older form made use of such a key but it was my
understanding that had you switched to the newer incarnation therein such
was gone.  If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct.
Either way it can be quite confusing and sadly it's why many just don't
bother with it. I'll probably turn it on as soon as my second iDevice
arrives hopefully next week.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two factor authentication issues?

I used my recovery key just a couple of weeks ago and the option was there
for me.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

Hi,
the only time I encountered an issue with this was recently when upgrading
from one iPhone to another the system texted the code to my number but 
since

my phone wasn't fully up and running and operational I couldn't get it to
sign into iCloud properly. So I had to set up phone as new, skipping 
iCloud

sign in go to apple ID and turn off TFA and then restore phone from cloud
after the fact. their system used to have a recovery key you could use for
times when you're off line but they've taken that away so much as it pains
me for the moment I have it turned off.  If one has more than one Apple
device you shouldn't necessarily encounter this but for me it made for 
some
heart racy kind of moments so for now it's off but usually it's my 
practice

to use it wherever and whenever I can but I admit sometimes it causes the
user more stress than those it's trying to deter from evil doing.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't
have any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code
doesn't come or whatever, essentially making your two factor 
authentication

unusable and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk
about some major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow 
up

message, with this system. So I was wondering what they were.
That would be a problem.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
>
> I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you
> get a text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading
> numbers and getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time
> out I have opted not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given
> absolutely no choice!  I know it is supposed to be more secure, but
> for me it has been distressing because I generally can't get it done 
> fast

> enough to make it count.
> Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those
> without I suspect.
>
>
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Two factor authentication issues?
>
> When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two
> factor authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that
> included a link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I
> made. This link will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am
> interested in the details of the problems that arise with two factor
> authentication. I gave them my mobile phone number where they could
> send the six digit code that will be needed when and if I get a new
> Apple device where I log in with my Apple ID. I certainly don't want
> some unsolvable problem happening down the road. So what are the
> issues? Is it 

Re: Please repost: link to new website?

[Kimber Gardner]

Here you go, Jennifer.

http://www.apple.com/accessibility/

On 10/28/16, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> Hi all.
> I lost the email with the link to the new apple accessibility website. Can
> someone please repost it?
> Thanks and I appologize for any inconvenience.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Please repost: link to new website?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
I lost the email with the link to the new apple accessibility website. Can 
someone please repost it?
Thanks and I appologize for any inconvenience. 


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Re: Two factor authentication issues?

[Vicky Collins]

You are indeed correct. The old two-step verification uses the recovery key, 
while the two-factor authentication does not have that option. I made the 
change to the 2FA a few months ago.

- Original Message -
From: Robin Frost  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:57 pm
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

>
>
> Hi,
> Wow in iOS 10.0.2 I think it was at the time no such option was presented 
> during phone setup at all; nor did the lovely Apple rep who guided me 
> through my very rare spell of panic indicate that such could be used 
> anymore.  To further confuse matters I thought there were two variations of 
> Apple's tfa and the older form made use of such a key but it was my 
> understanding that had you switched to the newer incarnation therein such 
> was gone.  If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct.
> Either way it can be quite confusing and sadly it's why many just don't 
> bother with it. I'll probably turn it on as soon as my second iDevice 
> arrives hopefully next week.
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> I used my recovery key just a couple of weeks ago and the option was there 
> for me.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Robin Frost
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> Hi,
> the only time I encountered an issue with this was recently when upgrading 
> from one iPhone to another the system texted the code to my number but since 
> my phone wasn't fully up and running and operational I couldn't get it to 
> sign into iCloud properly. So I had to set up phone as new, skipping iCloud 
> sign in go to apple ID and turn off TFA and then restore phone from cloud 
> after the fact. their system used to have a recovery key you could use for 
> times when you're off line but they've taken that away so much as it pains 
> me for the moment I have it turned off.  If one has more than one Apple 
> device you shouldn't necessarily encounter this but for me it made for some 
> heart racy kind of moments so for now it's off but usually it's my practice 
> to use it wherever and whenever I can but I admit sometimes it causes the 
> user more stress than those it's trying to deter from evil doing.
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't 
> have any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code 
> doesn't come or whatever, essentially making your two factor authentication 
> unusable and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk 
> about some major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow up 
> message, with this system. So I was wondering what they were.
> That would be a problem.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
> >
> > I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you
> > get a text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading
> > numbers and getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time
> > out I have opted not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given
> > absolutely no choice!  I know it is supposed to be more secure, but
> > for me it has been distressing because I generally can't get it done fast 
> > enough to make it count.
> > Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those
> > without I suspect.
> >
> >
> > Rose Combs
> > roseco...@q.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Mary Otten
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> > Subject: Two factor authentication issues?
> >
> > When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two
> > factor authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that
> > included a link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I
> > made. This link will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am
> > interested in the details of the problems that arise with two factor
> > authentication. I gave them my mobile phone number where they could
> > send the six digit code that will be needed when and if I get a new
> > Apple device where I log in with my Apple ID. I certainly don't want
> > some unsolvable problem happening down the road. So what are the
> > issues? Is it something that happens when you're trying to enable two
> > factor authentication? In that 

Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.

[christopher hallsworth]

All I can say is check it out. I had a look last night, and it's nice. At least 
now you can easily get to the user guides for all of their products, in 
accessible formats, for example. Before, you had to go through hoops before you 
can get to them. Even if you found them, they may be in PDF format, something 
that may be inconvenient for some users.


> On 28 Oct 2016, at 01:31, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Same here. Is it a new URL or just a refreshed site? BTW, I still need to 
> listen to the podcast, so sorry if it's covered there.
> 
> On 27/10/16 19:20, Paul Ferrara wrote:
>> I thought this site was out before; what has changed?
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> *From:* Richard Turner 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:18 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: Today's keynote event announced a new accessibility website.
>> 
>> The new web site is:
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Chuck Dean > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Here's a link to the podcast:
>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665?mt=2#episodeGuid=http%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fapple_keynotes%2F2016%2FOct_2016_SD.m4v
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Re: Spodify subscription question

[christopher hallsworth]

It *definitely* will. I always pay for my subscriptions with gift cards, and 
not once do I remember Apple using my stored payment info unless they have to 
of course, such as recovering any outstanding balances because of the gift card 
having insufficient funds.
> On 28 Oct 2016, at 03:20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> It should, works fine for an Apple Music subscription so unless Apple somehow 
> doesn't allow third-party subscriptions it should be fine.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:23 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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> Subject: Spodify subscription question
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> 
> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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> Hi:
> I have my spodify subscription paid through itunes. If I get an itunes card, 
> will that pay for my subscription?
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