RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Christopher,

I have no idea, when you search for something in Google something is bound to 
pop up, I was just pulling Pablo's Android headphones because it's so much fun 
to tease him, criticise Android even just a bit and he's charging to the 
rescue. Good thing he didn't buy a Note 7 or he would have had to wear a Nomex 
suit and carry a fire extinguisher in his backpack. Anyways, I'll stop it now, 
it's fun for a bit but enough is enough.
Pablo, I give you $100 for your iPhone 7, sounds like it's just lying around 
there and from the way you make it sound it's just a piece of junk so it must 
not be worth a lot, right and for that $100 you can probably buy 2 Android 
tablets. *smile*


Take care,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

I looked for a date and couldn't find it, but when was that article written? 
The fact that Blackberry had 25% of the market share and Nokia 7% makes me 
think it's based on kind of dated information. Be interesting to know if things 
have changed at all. I know I'm happier with Android now then I would have been 
just a year ago.

On 23/03/17 19:36, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:
> Yes, those are users who are happy with the software policies of 
> apple, with the permanent voice over bugs, with the limitations that 
> IOs has, and many other funny things.
>
> It is why I bought a pixel device, because my iPhone 7 made me laugh a lot.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:12 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Pablo, did you know research shows that iPhone users are happier and 
> much funnier than Android users? It’s because Android users are 
> usually so frustrated with their phones that they have no sense of 
> humour. There are even reports on the web to proof this:
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/8795640/Apple-iPho
> ne-makes-users-happier-than-Android.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:10 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We 
> need to have some fun.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not 
> helpful to anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about 
> is helping each other to learn.
>
>
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Sieghard,
>
> Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say 
> it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not?
>
> Because you said so?
>
> Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ?
>
> No right?
>
> Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an 
> android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you 
> believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise.
>
> But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, 
> obviously I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. 
> It is better because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has. 
> More over I have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs 
> and android. I have found in android a lot more flexibility, something 
> that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have found a lot of 
> customization

RE: Item chooser question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Wayne,

Does it pop up for you when you are doing 2-finger double taps? I just tried 
various hard presses and nothing seems to bring up the item chooser except a 
very pronounced 2-finger triple tap. In any case, you can't turn it off or 
disable it and all you can really do is practice your gestures so you can 
consistently do the ones you want avoiding the ones you don't want.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Item chooser question


the gesture for the item chooser is a two finger triple tap.
Unless the iPhone 7 has an ultra sensitive screen and you are touching with 
more fingers than you realize, I'm not sure how you are getting it.
Or, is that because of a 2 finger hard press?
Richard


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Soulless, part 1 of the Parasol Protectorate (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

> On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:48 PM, Wayne Scott  wrote:
> 
> there a way to disable the Item chooser? I don't use it.  If I hit 
> something, it goes to that and I constantly have to close it.  It's 
> getting annoying.  Wayne
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Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Christopher Chaltain]

I looked for a date and couldn't find it, but when was that article 
written? The fact that Blackberry had 25% of the market share and Nokia 
7% makes me think it's based on kind of dated information. Be 
interesting to know if things have changed at all. I know I'm happier 
with Android now then I would have been just a year ago.


On 23/03/17 19:36, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:

Yes, those are users who are happy with the software policies of apple,
with the permanent voice over bugs, with the limitations that IOs has,
and many other funny things.

It is why I bought a pixel device, because my iPhone 7 made me laugh a lot.





*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:12 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Pablo, did you know research shows that iPhone users are happier and
much funnier than Android users? It’s because Android users are usually
so frustrated with their phones that they have no sense of humour. There
are even reports on the web to proof this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/8795640/Apple-iPhone-makes-users-happier-than-Android.html









*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:10 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We need
to have some fun.





*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun.





*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not helpful
to anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about is helping
each other to learn.



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Sieghard,

Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say
it is better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not?

Because you said so?

Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ?

No right?

Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an
android phone for months and you come to the list and explain why you
believe IOs is better than android. I will not laugh, I promise.

But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously
I am saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better
because I don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I
have found better accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I
have found in android a lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t
know what that means. I have found a lot of customization, another word
that IOs doesn’t know what that means.

Leave the list?

No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during
the whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the
year. If I don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs
devices, because I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you.

Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my
experience and expectations.













*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became
active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago.
Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and
it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list
to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such
good alternatives to iOS and the iP

Re: Item chooser question

[Richard Turner]

the gesture for the item chooser is a two finger triple tap.
Unless the iPhone 7 has an ultra sensitive screen and you are touching with 
more fingers than you realize, I'm not sure how you are getting it.
Or, is that because of a 2 finger hard press?
Richard


"Tremendous thanks to the ladies of the WCWC and their multicolored Pens of 
Doom: with criticism comes wisdom and, hopefully, tea." – Gail Carriger,  
Soulless, part 1 of the Parasol Protectorate
(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

> On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:48 PM, Wayne Scott  wrote:
> 
> there a way to disable the Item chooser? I don't use it.  If I hit something, 
> it goes to that and I constantly have to close it.  It's getting annoying.  
> Wayne
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Item chooser question

[Wayne Scott]

there a way to disable the Item chooser? I don't use it.  If I 
hit something, it goes to that and I constantly have to close it.  
It's getting annoying.  Wayne


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question regarding Siri

[Wayne Scott]

How do you get Siri to say email addresses correctly? One problem 
I have with Siri is that it will say the punctuation in my 
messages when I don't want it to.  I would like to have it put 
the actual punctuation in my messages.  Same goes for email 
addresses.  If I want to send an email, how do I get Siri to say 
the email address? I am using an iPhone 7 with the latest IOS.  
Wayne


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help with kik and vo and deleting groups and people from kik and leaving others.

[michv]

hi all. I use kik with vo on my eye phone 6. I am having problems with wanting 
to delete some groups and people from my kik and leaving others. can some one 
please help me and tell me step by step how to do this? many thanks. since I 
don’t see any way to do this under settings. many thanks. from Mich. 

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RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Yes, those are users who are happy with the software policies of apple, with 
the permanent voice over bugs, with the limitations that IOs has, and many 
other funny things.

It is why I bought a pixel device, because my iPhone 7 made me laugh a lot.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Pablo, did you know research shows that iPhone users are happier and much 
funnier than Android users? It’s because Android users are usually so 
frustrated with their phones that they have no sense of humour. There are even 
reports on the web to proof this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/8795640/Apple-iPhone-makes-users-happier-than-Android.html

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We need to have 
some fun. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not helpful to 
anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about is helping each other 
to learn.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Sieghard,

Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is 
better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not?

Because you said so?

Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ?

No right?

Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone 
for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better 
than android. I will not laugh, I promise.

But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am 
saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I 
don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better 
accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a 
lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have 
found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that 
means. 

Leave the list?

No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the 
whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I 
don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because 
I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you.

Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my 
experience and expectations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active 
on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I 
guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if 
you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android 
side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS 
and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do 
better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply 
different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pa

RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Pablo, did you know research shows that iPhone users are happier and much 
funnier than Android users? It’s because Android users are usually so 
frustrated with their phones that they have no sense of humour. There are even 
reports on the web to proof this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/8795640/Apple-iPhone-makes-users-happier-than-Android.html




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We need to have 
some fun.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not helpful to 
anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about is helping each other 
to learn.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Sieghard,
Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is 
better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not?
Because you said so?
Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ?
No right?
Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone 
for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better 
than android. I will not laugh, I promise.
But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am 
saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I 
don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better 
accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a 
lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have 
found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that 
means.
Leave the list?
No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the 
whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I 
don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because 
I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you.
Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my 
experience and expectations.






From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active 
on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I 
guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if 
you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android 
side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS 
and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do 
better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply 
different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa.

Regards,
Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Most don’t make profit?
How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?
It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to 
android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend  that 
don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They 
are great.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten

Re: new accessible iPhone game, crafting kingdom

[Jewel]

Can this game be played alone, or does one need a business partner?

Jewel


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 8:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: new accessible iPhone game, crafting kingdom




Here is the app store link followed by the description and What's New section.
owCrafting Kingdom by MetalPop, LLC
https://appsto.re/us/_V09gb.i


Every empire starts small!


Build production sites, and start crafting resources. Harvest logs, coal, iron 
and many other goods. Then craft them into more valuable items and sell them on 
the market!
Complete quests, build your own estate, and become the richest merchant in all 
of Crafting Kingdom!


Crafting Kingdom is a lovingly crafted (pun intended!) idle crafting game with 
a huge amount of goods to produce, complex production chains and plenty of 
quests for you to complete.


- Buy production sites
- Build complex production chains
- Complete quests and get powerful rewards
- Expand your storage facilities
- Build you very own estate
- Endless hours of fun. How much money can you make?


Note to our visually impaired players:
This game is fully accessible without the use of VoiceOver. You can 
enable/disable Accessibility Mode by tapping three times with three fingers in 
the main menu. Have fun!


What's new, march 23, 2017
- Performance increased further
- Game now auto-saves regularly
- Bug fixed where watching a video sometimes didn't award the boost
- Bug fixed that could cause a crash on iOS 9.x
- Accessibility: Products in City will announce how many are in storage 
together with the product name
- Accessibility: Produce button is now the first button in any production slot, 
to make updating automation quicker
- Accessibility: After selling a product, game will announce how many are left 
in storage
- Accessibility: After a progress reset, the sell buttons in the city are no 
longer inaccessible
- Accessibility: Added Sell All button to the city market product listing
- Accessibility: Boost Buttons in the Castle are now labeled with how long the 
boost will still be active


K
Carriger,  Soulless, part 1 of the Parasol Protectorate
(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On Mar 23, 2017, at 12:26 PM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:


  hello all, 
  have just heard about a new accessible iPhone game, called crafting kingdom. 
it should be the first result that comes up if you enter that in the app store 
search. 

  Simon 



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Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[rajmund]

hi,
what happens if you tab around, till you find a tab control, and close 
the tab? it may be in the tree view. PS. remember, outLook is better, 
just because some say so LOL.


Sent from Thunderbird

On 23/03/17 6:57 PM, Lynn White wrote:

CCan someone please tell me how to get into the inbox of Thunderbird without 
having to read their release notes and all that?  I just want to use it like 
you could before the latest update.  Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 23, 2017, at 6:24 AM, rajmund  wrote:

i,
android, however, at the end of the day, is android. and no matter how much you 
customise it, no matter how accessible it is, at the end of the day, it's 
android, and trust me, some of us don't like it. and no, it's not a matter of 
being able to use it or whether it's accessible.

Sent from Thunderbird


On 23/03/17 1:48 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:
*No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The Customers
are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much better on
android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a pixel phone.
I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot
of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something that
I was missing when I was an iPhone user.*

*I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using
internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for what
ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is installed
automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel phone not
with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able to install
apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular browser. Not
iTunes.*

*If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with
copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my
computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that.*

*If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t need
to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties apps in my
phone and it is it.*

*I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using
jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand.*

*I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just
doesn’t exist or is very low.*

*Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In
United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is
because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because you
are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when iPhones
used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true that android
wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and android user. I
like better android for many many reasons.*

* *

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Pablo,



I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like
Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any
company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And
you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the multitude of
companies that make devices that run under Android. If you don't like
Apple's closed file system which seems to be working pretty well for
them based on their sales and current stock price, you should use an
Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. That's the way supply
and demand is supposed to work in our economic system.



Alan Lemly



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android
device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with
sd cards.

Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with
everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone
memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very difficult
for users manage music between iPhones, or also between iPhone and other
devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to transfer music to our iPhones, but
use this app is really difficult for standard users. More over in
android devices you can store there documents of all types, you can
create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in our
computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons
why I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different politics
and different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more money.
Android’s culture is share, share and share again. Apple wants to
control so much 

Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[rajmund]

LOL tempted to add this list into my pronunciation dictionary in the 
name of eyes-free. LOL.


Sent from Thunderbird

On 23/03/17 4:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became
active on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago.
Anyhow, I guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and
it sounds as if you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list
to join the Android side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such
good alternatives to iOS and the iPhone, without competition nobody
would be very motivated to do better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better
because it is not. It is simply different and Android appeals to some
people more than iOS and vice versa.



Regards,

Sieghard







*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Most don’t make profit?

How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?

It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are
moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should
recommend  that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p,
or a pixel phone. They are great.









*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making
most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make
android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in
business forever if they don't make a profit.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:

Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS
reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away
from Apple devices for just that reason.  With the added advances in
the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I
don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five
that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it.
When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they
realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take
pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the
32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the
smaller issue.  How many phones out there are getting more and more
waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem
with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged
to avoid that sort of thing.  Fact is, I think that Apple is
guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their
content from iTunes and App store.  Open up the file system and
you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t
have that.  Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes
when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to
a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the
Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in.  Just a
thought.



Victor



*From:*Sieghard Weitzel

*Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
Red iPhone - Bloomberg



Hi Victor,



I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and
offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce
media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or
maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give
users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly
defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD
card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of
latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes
against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some
high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be
wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example
have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an
iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but
having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there
hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly
waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more
difficult if

RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Yes, Sieghard Is right. I hate to say it but Sieghard is right. We need to have 
some fun. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not helpful to 
anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about is helping each other 
to learn.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Sieghard,

Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is 
better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not?

Because you said so?

Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ?

No right?

Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone 
for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better 
than android. I will not laugh, I promise.

But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am 
saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I 
don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better 
accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a 
lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have 
found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that 
means. 

Leave the list?

No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the 
whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I 
don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because 
I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you.

Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my 
experience and expectations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active 
on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I 
guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if 
you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android 
side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS 
and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do 
better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply 
different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Most don’t make profit?

How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?

It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to 
android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend  that 
don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They 
are great.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of 
the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. 
Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they 
don't make a profit.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com> > wrote:

Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate

RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Great, I like it. Just tell me when.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Hi Pablo,

 

I like to bother you just as much and I guess we make each other laugh. So why 
is Android better? Because you say so, right? Yes, you have both devices and 
you think and this is the keyword here “you think” that Android is better. That 
of course means it is better in your opinion, right? As I said, I am sure 
Android by now is very advanced, I am sure the Google Pixel is a very nice 
phone and I’m sure many people prefer Android over iOS. But that doesn’t mean 
iOS is not good and that many people don’t prefer it over Android. I know a 
number of people who have switched from Android to iOS and think it’s way 
better and the same goes the other way around.

Anyways, now you better shut up because you know nothing and I could take you 
any day and with both hands tied behind my back, how do you like that *grin*

Oh, and if the Pixel with Android is so great, why has Apple sold more iPhone 7 
in the first weekend than Google has sold Pixels since they were released?

 

Best regards and wit great affection

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Sieghard,

Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is 
better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not?

Because you said so?

Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ?

No right?

Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone 
for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better 
than android. I will not laugh, I promise.

But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am 
saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I 
don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better 
accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a 
lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have 
found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that 
means. 

Leave the list?

No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the 
whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I 
don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because 
I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you.

Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my 
experience and expectations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active 
on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I 
guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if 
you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android 
side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS 
and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do 
better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply 
different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Most don’t make profit?

How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?

It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to 
android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend  that 
don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They 
are great.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhon

Re: Getting all episodes of my Echo podcast on your phone

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Yes, I found it on the stream here in the UK, so hopefully everyone else has 
to! :-)



Carol P - Sent from my iPhone :)


On 13 Mar 2017, at 8:20 am, Robin Christopherson 
 wrote:

Dave
 
I’m afraid I’' don’t have one so can’t be sure. The podcast is called Dot to 
Dot so I’m hoping it’ll be there in the list of search results on your stream.
 
Thanks, Robin
 
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Re: [SPAM]Re: How does the Watch ESPN app working for you.

[Paul Ferrara]

Watch ESPN is a separate app; I set it up but haven’t tried to watch stuff. Its 
purpose is to let you see ESPN content that is on the different ESPN channels. 
No idea how that part of it works.

Paul

From: Mr. Ed 
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [SPAM]Re: How does the Watch ESPN app working for you.

Hi Andy,

I just read about it on the app store. That is all I know about it.

Mr. Ed

 

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Andy Baracco
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [SPAM]Re: How does the Watch ESPN app working for you.

 

I thought that app was replaced by an app simply called ESPN.

Andy

 

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  Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:30 AM

  Subject: How does the Watch ESPN app working for you.

   

  Hi Guys,

  Is the Watch ESPN app accessible and if so how well does it work to get news 
and other information?

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RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Mr. Ed]

Hi victor,
Have you ever seen to bulls out in a pastor. Every spring they butt heads 
together until their heads get bloody to prove who is the tuffus  bull. Now do 
you understand? Of course I know neither one of them could break out of a wet 
paper bag. LOL
Mr. Ed   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Victor Gouveia
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

I don't understand how this devolved into an argument over which is better, 
iPhone, or Android.

The fact is, each has benefits above and beyond the other, and there is no 
clear winner.

Just like if you come across a blind Android user, they'll say that the Android 
is more accessible, and the iPhone user will state the opposite.

I simply pointed out that Mary could not make such a blanket statement with 
providing a factual basis for her statement.  I outlined what was wrong with 
her statement, and I've moved on from there.

I've no idea how we've gotten into this devolved argument again.

I've noticed that this argument comes across every few months and I don't 
understand why.

Every one has read the benefits of each OS, and it's all subjective, in the end.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

This is just my opinion, but I've used both Apple and Android, and I find 
Android to be the better platform. I appreciate it's openness and 
customizability. I like the widget support it's had for years. I like the 
variety in form factors. Android does have trouble with fragmentation though, 
but I'm willing to put up with this for the benefits I perceive.

Apple is a great product and a great ecosystem. I used it for years before I 
thought Android accessibility had caught up enough to make the jump possible. I 
still use an iPhone for work.

I think either platform is great depending on what you're looking for and how 
you use your phone. I think choice is good, and I don't think people need to 
get defensive when talking about the brand they chose to use or put down the 
other options. I for one hope both platforms get better and more accessible.

On 22/03/17 20:56, John Panarese wrote:
>   Actually, she’s right. Apple, by far, makes the greatest profits 
> over any other cell phone maker. It’s not even close. This information 
> can be found all over the place.
>
>As for your opinion on Android, it’s also completely off. iOS is a 
> much better and more intelligent platform than Android. I’ve used 
> Android and it was not impressive at all. And this was on a Google 
> device with a straight forward version of Android.
>
>
>
> Take Care
>
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>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 9:53 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales 
>> mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, tbut it is not what I see in the industry. Apple makes a lot 
>> of money with another products. Apple is not just making iPhones. So 
>> we should use the same rule that you used with Samsung.
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:16 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition 
>> Red iPhone - Bloomberg
>>
>>
>> Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much 
>> of the phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after 
>> year, Apple makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market.
>> You might not like it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the 
>> technical press that is all over articles every time some company 
>> gains a little bit of marketshare. Waymore phones have android on 
>> them then there are iPhones. And that makes exactly no difference, 
>> because the vast majority of the actual money being made is being 
>> made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. Samsung 
>> makes a bunch of money. They make some profit on phones. They also 
>> make a ton of money in other industries. All those cheap phones that 
>> all those folks are making our nonprofit producers. Again, you might 
>> not like it. It might not be "fair". But that's how it is.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia 
>> mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mary, you can’t make blan

RE: [SPAM]Re: How does the Watch ESPN app working for you.

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Andy,

I just read about it on the app store. That is all I know about it.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [SPAM]Re: How does the Watch ESPN app working for you.

 

I thought that app was replaced by an app simply called ESPN.

Andy

 

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From: Mr. Ed   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:30 AM

Subject: How does the Watch ESPN app working for you.

 

Hi Guys,

Is the Watch ESPN app accessible and if so how well does it work to get news 
and other information?

Mr. Ed

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Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Victor Gouveia]

I don't understand how this devolved into an argument over which is better, 
iPhone, or Android.


The fact is, each has benefits above and beyond the other, and there is no 
clear winner.


Just like if you come across a blind Android user, they'll say that the 
Android is more accessible, and the iPhone user will state the opposite.


I simply pointed out that Mary could not make such a blanket statement with 
providing a factual basis for her statement.  I outlined what was wrong with 
her statement, and I've moved on from there.


I've no idea how we've gotten into this devolved argument again.

I've noticed that this argument comes across every few months and I don't 
understand why.


Every one has read the benefits of each OS, and it's all subjective, in the 
end.


Victor

-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
iPhone - Bloomberg


This is just my opinion, but I've used both Apple and Android, and I
find Android to be the better platform. I appreciate it's openness and
customizability. I like the widget support it's had for years. I like
the variety in form factors. Android does have trouble with
fragmentation though, but I'm willing to put up with this for the
benefits I perceive.

Apple is a great product and a great ecosystem. I used it for years
before I thought Android accessibility had caught up enough to make the
jump possible. I still use an iPhone for work.

I think either platform is great depending on what you're looking for
and how you use your phone. I think choice is good, and I don't think
people need to get defensive when talking about the brand they chose to
use or put down the other options. I for one hope both platforms get
better and more accessible.

On 22/03/17 20:56, John Panarese wrote:

  Actually, she’s right. Apple, by far, makes the greatest profits over
any other cell phone maker. It’s not even close. This information can be
found all over the place.

   As for your opinion on Android, it’s also completely off. iOS is a
much better and more intelligent platform than Android. I’ve used
Android and it was not impressive at all. And this was on a Google
device with a straight forward version of Android.



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On Mar 22, 2017, at 9:53 PM, Pablo Cesar Morales
mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Sorry, tbut it is not what I see in the industry. Apple makes a lot of
money with another products. Apple is not just making iPhones. So we
should use the same rule that you used with Samsung.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf

Of *Mary Otten
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:16 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg


Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much of
the phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after
year, Apple makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market.
You might not like it. But it's true. There's a whole lot of the
technical press that is all over articles every time some company
gains a little bit of marketshare. Waymore phones have android on them
then there are iPhones. And that makes exactly no difference, because
the vast majority of the actual money being made is being made by
Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. Samsung makes a bunch
of money. They make some profit on phones. They also make a ton of
money in other industries. All those cheap phones that all those folks
are making our nonprofit producers. Again, you might not like it. It
might not be "fair". But that's how it is.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:


Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first.

One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this
industry because Apple is only one company, whereas there are at
least seven or eight companies manufacturing cell phones that are not
Apple.  To say that Apple was making most of the money in this
industry is like saying that Coke is making most of the money in the
pop industry when there are so many other drinks available like
juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea.

Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money
compared to Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even
then your statement would be wrong as these two companies alone make
thousands of products Apple does not, so p

Re: How does the Watch ESPN app working for you.

[Kerri Kosten]

Everything  is in  the ESPN app now.
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:00 PM Andy Baracco  wrote:

> I thought that app was replaced by an app simply called ESPN.
> Andy
>
>
> - Original Message -
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> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:30 AM
> *Subject:* How does the Watch ESPN app working for you.
>
> Hi Guys,
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Re: How does the Watch ESPN app working for you.

[Andy Baracco]

I thought that app was replaced by an app simply called ESPN.
Andy

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:30 AM
  Subject: How does the Watch ESPN app working for you.


  Hi Guys,

  Is the Watch ESPN app accessible and if so how well does it work to get news 
and other information?

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Re: new accessible iPhone game, crafting kingdom

[Richard Turner]

Here is the app store link followed by the description and What's New section.
owCrafting Kingdom by MetalPop, LLC
https://appsto.re/us/_V09gb.i

Every empire starts small!

Build production sites, and start crafting resources. Harvest logs, coal, iron 
and many other goods. Then craft them into more valuable items and sell them on 
the market!
Complete quests, build your own estate, and become the richest merchant in all 
of Crafting Kingdom!

Crafting Kingdom is a lovingly crafted (pun intended!) idle crafting game with 
a huge amount of goods to produce, complex production chains and plenty of 
quests for you to complete.

- Buy production sites
- Build complex production chains
- Complete quests and get powerful rewards
- Expand your storage facilities
- Build you very own estate
- Endless hours of fun. How much money can you make?

Note to our visually impaired players:
This game is fully accessible without the use of VoiceOver. You can 
enable/disable Accessibility Mode by tapping three times with three fingers in 
the main menu. Have fun!

What's new, march 23, 2017
- Performance increased further
- Game now auto-saves regularly
- Bug fixed where watching a video sometimes didn't award the boost
- Bug fixed that could cause a crash on iOS 9.x
- Accessibility: Products in City will announce how many are in storage 
together with the product name
- Accessibility: Produce button is now the first button in any production slot, 
to make updating automation quicker
- Accessibility: After selling a product, game will announce how many are left 
in storage
- Accessibility: After a progress reset, the sell buttons in the city are no 
longer inaccessible
- Accessibility: Added Sell All button to the city market product listing
- Accessibility: Boost Buttons in the Castle are now labeled with how long the 
boost will still be active

K
Carriger,  Soulless, part 1 of the Parasol Protectorate
(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On Mar 23, 2017, at 12:26 PM, goshawk on horseback 
mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk>>
 wrote:

hello all,
have just heard about a new accessible iPhone game, called crafting kingdom. it 
should be the first result that comes up if you enter that in the app store 
search.

Simon



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new accessible iPhone game, crafting kingdom

[goshawk on horseback]

hello all, 
have just heard about a new accessible iPhone game, called crafting kingdom. it 
should be the first result that comes up if you enter that in the app store 
search. 

Simon 

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Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Lynn White]

CCan someone please tell me how to get into the inbox of Thunderbird without 
having to read their release notes and all that?  I just want to use it like 
you could before the latest update.  Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2017, at 6:24 AM, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> i,
> android, however, at the end of the day, is android. and no matter how much 
> you customise it, no matter how accessible it is, at the end of the day, it's 
> android, and trust me, some of us don't like it. and no, it's not a matter of 
> being able to use it or whether it's accessible.
> 
> Sent from Thunderbird
> 
>> On 23/03/17 1:48 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:
>> *No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The Customers
>> are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much better on
>> android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a pixel phone.
>> I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot
>> of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something that
>> I was missing when I was an iPhone user.*
>> 
>> *I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using
>> internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for what
>> ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is installed
>> automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel phone not
>> with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able to install
>> apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular browser. Not
>> iTunes.*
>> 
>> *If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with
>> copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my
>> computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that.*
>> 
>> *If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t need
>> to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties apps in my
>> phone and it is it.*
>> 
>> *I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using
>> jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand.*
>> 
>> *I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just
>> doesn’t exist or is very low.*
>> 
>> *Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In
>> United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is
>> because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because you
>> are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when iPhones
>> used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true that android
>> wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and android user. I
>> like better android for many many reasons.*
>> 
>> * *
>> 
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
>> iPhone - Bloomberg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Pablo,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like
>> Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any
>> company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And
>> you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the multitude of
>> companies that make devices that run under Android. If you don't like
>> Apple's closed file system which seems to be working pretty well for
>> them based on their sales and current stock price, you should use an
>> Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. That's the way supply
>> and demand is supposed to work in our economic system.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
>> iPhone - Bloomberg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android
>> device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with
>> sd cards.
>> 
>> Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with
>> everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone
>> memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very difficult
>> for users manage music between iPhones, or also between iPhone and other
>> devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to transfer music to our iPhones, but
>> use this app is really difficult for standard users. More over in
>> android devices you can store there documents of all types, you can
>> create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in our
>> computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons
>> why I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different politics
>> and different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more money.
>> Android’s culture is s

RE: A Question to iTunes for Windows Users with Two-Factor Authentication Enabled on Their iCloud Accounts

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Mark,

I have two-factor authentication enabled and I have the iCloud Control Panel 
installed on my Windows 10 laptop and a Windows 7 desktop at work. I don't 
recall what I had to do, if anything I may have had to enter a code or 
something, but I certainly don't seem to have any issues. I mostly have iCloud 
Control Panel because I like my Photos to download to my laptop as well and 
that seems to be happening.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iTunes for Windows Users with Two-Factor Authentication 
Enabled on Their iCloud Accounts

Hello All,

Later this evening, I am going to enable two-factor iCloud Authentication on 
several accounts, some of which use iTunes for Windows.

To all iTunes for Windows Users, who have done so, were their any problems 
using iTunes for Windows or the iCloud for Windows Control panel after enabling 
two-factor authentication?  If so, how did you resolve the problems.

Thank you,

Mark 

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RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, but from time to time we just have to have some fun.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not helpful to 
anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about is helping each other 
to learn.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Sieghard,
Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is 
better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not?
Because you said so?
Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ?
No right?
Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone 
for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better 
than android. I will not laugh, I promise.
But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am 
saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I 
don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better 
accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a 
lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have 
found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that 
means.
Leave the list?
No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the 
whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I 
don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because 
I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you.
Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my 
experience and expectations.






From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active 
on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I 
guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if 
you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android 
side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS 
and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do 
better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply 
different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa.

Regards,
Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Most don’t make profit?
How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?
It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to 
android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend  that 
don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They 
are great.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of 
the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. 
Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they 
don't make a profit.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia 
mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:
Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and 
phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just 
that reason.  With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, 
pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available 
higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are 
pushing it.  When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they 
realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, 
I mea

RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Pablo,

I like to bother you just as much and I guess we make each other laugh. So why 
is Android better? Because you say so, right? Yes, you have both devices and 
you think and this is the keyword here “you think” that Android is better. That 
of course means it is better in your opinion, right? As I said, I am sure 
Android by now is very advanced, I am sure the Google Pixel is a very nice 
phone and I’m sure many people prefer Android over iOS. But that doesn’t mean 
iOS is not good and that many people don’t prefer it over Android. I know a 
number of people who have switched from Android to iOS and think it’s way 
better and the same goes the other way around.
Anyways, now you better shut up because you know nothing and I could take you 
any day and with both hands tied behind my back, how do you like that *grin*
Oh, and if the Pixel with Android is so great, why has Apple sold more iPhone 7 
in the first weekend than Google has sold Pixels since they were released?

Best regards and wit great affection
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Sieghard,
Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is 
better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not?
Because you said so?
Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ?
No right?
Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone 
for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better 
than android. I will not laugh, I promise.
But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am 
saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I 
don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better 
accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a 
lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have 
found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that 
means.
Leave the list?
No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the 
whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I 
don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because 
I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you.
Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my 
experience and expectations.






From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active 
on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I 
guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if 
you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android 
side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS 
and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do 
better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply 
different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa.

Regards,
Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Most don’t make profit?
How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?
It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to 
android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend  that 
don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They 
are great.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of 
the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. 
Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they 
don't make a profit.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia 
mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:
Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS re

Let's Use Social Media to Advocate for The Visually Impaired

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Earlier this week, both Apple and Starbucks announced that they were, in
effect, reaffirming their commitments to several agendas.  

In apple's case, they introduced iPhone 7 and 7 Plus RED Special Edition,
which is intended to give customers a way to participate in the fight
against aids.

In Starbucks case, they affirmed their commitment to hiring thousands and
thousands of veterans and immigrants.  

Upon reading each of these announcements, via various social media outlets,
I requested that these two companies make a commitment to the blind and low
vision.

To Apple, I asked that they play a more active role in research that will
bring, eyesight, (in quote marks) to the blind and low vision.

To Starbucks, I asked that they commit to a policy of hiring blind and low
vision employees, where reasonably possible.  

I am posting this to the list in order to ask those of you with social media
accounts to make similar requests of these and any other companies that
boast of their commitments to investing in any particular demographic.  

We must begin to directly advocate for ourselves, as visually impaired
people, if major change is ever going to occur and we must do it on the
global stage so that our sighted counterparts will know that we are here and
that we matter.

The Gospel According to Mark, Chapter 2017.2.1.1.A. (smile)

Mark


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RE: an odd problem with facebook messenger

[Sieghard Weitzel]

When I just checked there seem to be a few new sections or whatever you want to 
call them, one was "active now" and another one said something about creating a 
room. Each of them had three dots beside it and when I tapped on that it popped 
up with a window where I could hide this. It did say that it may reappear if 
there was new content or something like that, but now after I did this after 
"New Message" it goes straight into my contacts list.
I saw nothing about "ad of the day". One thing I wonder is whether you maybe 
custom labelled something and it's showing up here. The other day I downloaded 
the new Paypal Business app. On my home screen it just showed up as "Business". 
I therefore custom labelled it "Paypal Business". Next thing I was in the CBC 
News app which has sections like Top Stories, Canada, World, Politics, 
Business, Tech and Science etc. Suddenly the "Business" section was read by 
Voiceover as "Paypal Business".
This is clearly a restriction to the custom label feature as it seems to now 
treat all occurances of the word "business" as "Paypal Business", almost more 
like what I expect from a custom dictionary. Of course I went bak to the Paypal 
business app, brought up the custom label feature aain and changed it back to 
"Business".

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jed Barton
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an odd problem with facebook messenger

Hey guys,

Have any of you noticed on the latest messenger, when you load it, and you go 
all the way to the left, you see settings, search, new message, and then add to 
your day.  After that you see a few names of your friends and it says unread as 
you swipe through them, then you get to your actual messages.  Can i get rid of 
this add to your day thing? 
It's really annoying, does anyone actually know what it is?

Thanks,
Jed

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RE: A Question to iTunes for Windows Users with Two-Factor Authentication Enabled on Their iCloud Accounts

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
I do not use the iCloud Panel but I do use itunes and the Cloud. I have an iPad 
Mini 4 and an iPhone 6S+ and I have two factor authentication enabled. I use 
that very successfully with both devices. Oh it also works well with the Apple 
TV 4. Although I am glad I have a Bluetooth Keyboard that lets me switch 
between all three devices at will just to save time. That has nothing to do 
with accessibility just an added benefit.
Hope that helps,
Merv


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question to iTunes for Windows Users with Two-Factor 
Authentication Enabled on Their iCloud Accounts

Hi Sir,
I can't address iCloud control panel for Windows as I hadn't known it to be 
accessible so hadn't touched it in years.  If it's been improved I'd love to 
know of it. As for tfa yes I've run with it for years and sometimes iTunes 
prompts me for my Password a bit more frequently than I recall other wise but 
if your pc is a trusted device then it shouldn't be much of an issue. 
the biggest issue I ever had with it truthfully was when I only had one Apple 
device and had restored it to factory defaults before setting up my new device 
thus couldn’t verify myself to get into my Apple ID to set up that second 
device. Oopsey time for a momentary panic attack which at that point I solved 
by temporarily disabling tfa long enough to set up new device and then could 
re-enable it. but from the sounds of it you might have more than one device so 
hopefully that'll never be an issue for you or me now again (smile).
I'm sure if I'm missing a facet others will chime in too.
Robin


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Subject: A Question to iTunes for Windows Users with Two-Factor Authentication 
Enabled on Their iCloud Accounts

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RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)]

Could you guys please please take this off the list? This is not helpful to 
anyone, and I thought that is what this list is all about is helping each other 
to learn.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Sieghard,
Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is 
better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not?
Because you said so?
Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ?
No right?
Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone 
for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better 
than android. I will not laugh, I promise.
But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am 
saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I 
don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better 
accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a 
lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have 
found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that 
means.
Leave the list?
No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the 
whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I 
don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because 
I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you.
Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my 
experience and expectations.






From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active 
on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I 
guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if 
you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android 
side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS 
and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do 
better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply 
different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa.

Regards,
Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Most don’t make profit?
How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?
It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to 
android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend  that 
don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They 
are great.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of 
the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. 
Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they 
don't make a profit.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia 
mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:
Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and 
phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just 
that reason.  With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, 
pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available 
higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are 
pushing it.  When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they 
realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, 
I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, 
especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue.  How many 
phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they 
don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security 
could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing.  Fact is, I think that Apple is

RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Sieghard,

Sorry man, but you made me laugh a lot. You said “But Pablo, don’t say it is 
better because it is not.”. Because it is not? why is it not?

Because you said so?

Have you used an android phone with android 7.1 ?

No right?

Ok, I have more knowledge to say that it is better. If you try an android phone 
for months and you come to the list and explain why you believe IOs is better 
than android. I will not laugh, I promise.

But come on man. If I am saying that for me android is better, obviously I am 
saying why I believe than android is better than IOs. It is better because I 
don’t have the software policies that IOs has. More over I have found better 
accessibility in apps that exist in IOs and android. I have found in android a 
lot more flexibility, something that IOs doesn’t know what that means. I have 
found a lot of customization, another word that IOs doesn’t know what that 
means. 

Leave the list?

No way, I like to bother you, you know I have nothing else to do during the 
whole day, and during the whole week, during the 365 days of the year. If I 
don’t lieve the list is for three reasons; because I have IOs devices, because 
I train people with IOs, and because I like to bother you.

Again, all of this are my opinions, and I am basing my opinions in my 
experience and expectations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active 
on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I 
guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if 
you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android 
side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS 
and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do 
better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply 
different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Most don’t make profit?

How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?

It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to 
android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend  that 
don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They 
are great.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

 

Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of 
the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. 
Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they 
don't make a profit.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com> > wrote:

Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and 
phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just 
that reason.  With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, 
pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available 
higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are 
pushing it.  When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they 
realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, 
I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, 
especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue.  How many 
phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they 
don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security 
could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing.  Fact is, I think that Apple is 
guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from 
iTunes and App store.  Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier 
way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that.  Regardless, I do think that 
Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it 
easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold 
when the Android devices that allo

Re: A Question to iTunes for Windows Users with Two-Factor Authentication Enabled on Their iCloud Accounts

[Robin Frost]

Hi Sir,
I can't address iCloud control panel for Windows as I hadn't known it to be 
accessible so hadn't touched it in years.  If it's been improved I'd love to 
know of it. As for tfa yes I've run with it for years and sometimes iTunes 
prompts me for my Password a bit more frequently than I recall other wise 
but if your pc is a trusted device then it shouldn't be much of an issue. 
the biggest issue I ever had with it truthfully was when I only had one 
Apple device and had restored it to factory defaults before setting up my 
new device thus couldn’t verify myself to get into my Apple ID to set up 
that second device. Oopsey time for a momentary panic attack which at that 
point I solved by temporarily disabling tfa long enough to set up new device 
and then could re-enable it. but from the sounds of it you might have more 
than one device so hopefully that'll never be an issue for you or me now 
again (smile).

I'm sure if I'm missing a facet others will chime in too.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Question to iTunes for Windows Users with Two-Factor 
Authentication Enabled on Their iCloud Accounts


Hello All,

Later this evening, I am going to enable two-factor iCloud Authentication on
several accounts, some of which use iTunes for Windows.

To all iTunes for Windows Users, who have done so, were their any problems
using iTunes for Windows or the iCloud for Windows Control panel after
enabling two-factor authentication?  If so, how did you resolve the
problems.

Thank you,

Mark

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A Question to iTunes for Windows Users with Two-Factor Authentication Enabled on Their iCloud Accounts

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Later this evening, I am going to enable two-factor iCloud Authentication on
several accounts, some of which use iTunes for Windows.

To all iTunes for Windows Users, who have done so, were their any problems
using iTunes for Windows or the iCloud for Windows Control panel after
enabling two-factor authentication?  If so, how did you resolve the
problems.

Thank you,

Mark 

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Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Mary Otten]

If you have an old iPad, such as an iPad two or three or even an iPad air the 
original air, and you don't want to lay out the big bucks for an iPad Pro which 
is still rumored to be coming later this year, that's the advantage of buying 
this one. It's cheaper. If it satisfies you and you don't have or want to pay 
the big bucks, you can still get an Apple tablet for a "cheap price".
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 23, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> I have no interest in the apple versus android comparison.  What I find 
> interesting though is that the new iPad is even weaker than the iPad pro  9.7 
> inch which was released last spring.  The iPad pro 9.7 of last year has 5 MB 
> front facing Camera and 12 MB back Camera.  The new one has 1.2 MB front 
> facing, and 8 MB back Camera.  They both has the same A9 processor and they 
> have similar storage options.  It also seems that the new model is slightly 
> heavier. So the question is then:  What is the advantage of buying the new 
> iPad other than the fact it is slightly cheaper?
> Did any of you find any other advantages for buying the new iPad?
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Marissa Solaun
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
> Bloomberg
>  
> May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone
> 
> Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone
> More stories by Alex Webb
> Apple Inc. introduced a revamped version of its most popular-sized iPad at 
> the cheapest price yet, and a shiny red iPhone 7, whose sales will help to 
> combat AIDS.
> 
> Apple unveiled a new 9.7-inch iPad with a brighter Retina display starting at 
> $329, and a special edition red-aluminum finish iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, 
> part of the company’s decade-long partnership with (RED), which contributes 
> to the Global Fund to fight HIV and AIDS.
> 
> “Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a 
> significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our 
> products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the 
> way to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and 
> Apple Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a statement 
> Tuesday.
> 
> Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund, contributing 
> more than $130 million, the company said.
> 
> Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone later this 
> year.
> Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone which 
> reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year of declines. 
> Those falling sales came even as Apple introduced a cheaper handset in March 
> in an effort to spur growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the 
> 2016 fiscal year came from the services business, which includes Apple Music 
> and the App Store, and the other products category.
> 
> Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in New York. 
> Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80.
> 
> 
> The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB Wi-Fi plus 
> cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24 in the U.S. and 
> more than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be 
> available in 128GB and 256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple 
> also announced new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display 
> model will now be available in 32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current 
> capacity and replacing the previous models.
> 
> Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called Clips, that helps 
> people combine video clips, photos and music that can be shared through 
> social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift Playgrounds iPad app, 
> which helps students learn to code, is available in five additional 
> languages: Japanese, French, German, Spanish and simplified Chinese.
> 
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an odd problem with facebook messenger

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

Have any of you noticed on the latest messenger, when you load it, and 
you go all the way to the left, you see settings, search, new message, 
and then add to your day.  After that you see a few names of your 
friends and it says unread as you swipe through them, then you get to 
your actual messages.  Can i get rid of this add to your day thing? 
It's really annoying, does anyone actually know what it is?


Thanks,
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Apple TV 4 and Amazon Shopping

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

Today I discovered the Amazon Shopping App on my Apple TV 4. It seems to be
working very well. The only strange thing so far is when I searched for
something it brought me results with both $US and $Canadian. I live in
Florida and was signed in with my Prime account.

Everything seems accessible so far. I have not tried to purchase anything
yet but shopping and Browsing is very good. And there is a 4 digit pin to
protect the account from someone just getting on the App and buying while
I'm not looking, laughs!

I was wondering if anyone has actually purchased on Amazon through the Apple
TV 4 yet and if it was accessible.

This is a good step forward since so far Apple and Amazon have not played
well together. I'm hoping that Amazon Prime will eventually come to the
Apple TV 4 so I can watch movies without having to use my iPad or iPhone.

Merv

 

 

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RE: iTunes 12,6

[Merv Keck]

So far I am using 12.6 successfully on my windows 10 Home with Jaws 18. One 
weird quirk I noticed was that some files I had deleted but apparently were in 
the cloud showed back up and had to be deleted again. I have the cloud enabled 
in preferences because it seems to make my experience work more smoothly with 
my Apple TV 4 when playing files on my PC.


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Carla Savage
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:50 AM
To: viphone email list 
Subject: iTunes 12,6

Hi All, 
Just checking what people's experiences have been with iTunes 12,6? I don't 
want to update and then have to delete everything off to re-install an earlier 
version. Do the tracks get read properly now? Do all the fields get read? I use 
Window-Eyes. 
Many thanks, 
Carla.


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RE: Please, I need help with activating Iphone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Marie,

If a device is reset and you are at the initial screen which says "swipe to 
setup" you must have a SIM card installed otherwise you cannot complete the 
setup. Once it is setup you can take the SIM card out and it is no problem, but 
you do need it initially.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Please, I need help with activating Iphone

You do not need to activate the phone to use it as an IPod. The activation is 
only for the phone service. You just need to sign in with your Apple ID so you 
can use or buy apps. You can do IMessaging to others with I devices whenever 
you are connected to the internet.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Mária Orovčíková
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 1:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Please, I need help with activating Iphone

Hello list,
I have Iphone 4 which stil has pretty decent battery, so I would like to use it 
as Ipod.
I don't have a sim card for activating the phone and I haven't found any other 
option to activate it.
I tried Itunes, but it keeps saying I need a valid Sim card.
Please, is there a way how to activate Iphone without a sim card?
I don't want to use it for phone calls, I have Iphone 6 for that.
Thank you very much for your help.
With kind regards,
Maria

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RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I wish I had kept the email you sent me a few months ago when you became active 
on this list again after you left for Android a year or two ago. Anyhow, I 
guess Android must have become amazing in those few months and it sounds as if 
you will once again sell your iPhone and leave this list to join the Android 
side. I’m glad Android and the google Pixel are such good alternatives to iOS 
and the iPhone, without competition nobody would be very motivated to do 
better. But Pablo, don’t say it is better because it is not. It is simply 
different and Android appeals to some people more than iOS and vice versa.

Regards,
Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Most don’t make profit?
How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?
It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are moving to 
android. You should try it, is much better. However I should recommend  that 
don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They 
are great.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of 
the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. 
Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they 
don't make a profit.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia 
mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:
Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and 
phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just 
that reason.  With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, 
pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available 
higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are 
pushing it.  When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they 
realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, 
I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, 
especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue.  How many 
phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they 
don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security 
could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing.  Fact is, I think that Apple is 
guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from 
iTunes and App store.  Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier 
way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that.  Regardless, I do think that 
Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it 
easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold 
when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in.  Just a 
thought.

Victor

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Hi Victor,

I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card 
expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the 
OS must have access to the folders or maybe it would be more accurate to say 
that Apple would have to give users access to what is on the SD card and that 
would possibly defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD 
card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of latency in how 
fast things get loaded and I think this all goes against what Apple wants to 
achieve. I think actually that even some high-end Android phones are moving 
away from that, but I might be wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google 
Pixel for example have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot 
on an iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but having 
it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there hardly is any space 
left as is and of course making a highly waterproof or water resistant device 
would probably be much more difficult if the device had an SD card slot 
Personally I have no problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally 
agree that nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people 
still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the space) for 
$100 more.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Do Not Disturb, was no subject

[Wayne Merritt]

I have noticed that If you have Do Not Disturb on manually or from a
schedule and someone sends you a text or iMessage, if that person has
not been given the DND bypass privilidge, you do not get their
message. However, if you enable the bypass in their contact's edit
screen, you will get the message.

Wayne Merritt

On 3/22/17, Cher Bosch  wrote:
> That certainly does- thanks! I see that if your phone is plugged in, the
> call will still come through because the screen is not locked while Siri is
> turned on and listening. Also, apparently having the setting turned on to
> allow favorites to ring through is the default now- at least I never had
> this problem before.
>
> Cher
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Do Not Disturb, was no subject
>
> Greetings. I use Do Not Disturb regularly. If you want to change settings
> for it go to Do Not Disturb in the iOS Settings. You can switch on or off
> several controls, including allowing calls from favorites, allowing repeated
> calls made within a few minutes, and so forth. You can set it up to be on a
> certain schedule, like if you want Do Not Disturb active from 10p to 7a
> every night. Unfortunately, you cannot set a different schedule for weekends
> and for weekdays. To control whether individual contacts can bypass the DND
> setting, you need to go to the contacts on your device, choose the contact,
> and then hit edit. There will be a button that appears near the top of the
> screen labeled something like, "Bypass Do Not Disturb." When turned on, it
> will do exactly that. If you have set a text tone for the person, then I
> have found that when their message comes through, the associated text tone
> will play as well, regarless if DND is on or not.
> Sometimes I have been in meetings and had DND on, but then a text tone plays
> for one of the VIP contacts which I have allowed the bypass for.
> Also, even if your device is muted and DND is not turned on, the text toen
> will play.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Wayne
>
> On 3/20/17, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> It has been a while since I read about it, maybe it has changed. But I
>> surely thought it silenced phone calls, too. I thought I remembered
>> that there was a way to enter numbers that you wanted to get through
>> as a matter of record, and the provision that if the same number
>> called within a minute, or something like that, it would also get
>> through. Perhaps things have changed with one of the recent updates. I
>> rarely use do not disturb.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Cher Bosch 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I thought ‘do not disturb’ would turn off phone calls also-but
>> apparently not. So, what does this setting do and how do you really
>> silence the phone?
>>
>> Cher
>> your phone
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Re: Please, I need help with activating Iphone

[Marie]

You do not need to activate the phone to use it as an IPod. The activation 
is only for the phone service. You just need to sign in with your Apple ID 
so you can use or buy apps. You can do IMessaging to others with I devices 
whenever you are connected to the internet.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Mária Orovčíková

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 1:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Please, I need help with activating Iphone

Hello list,
I have Iphone 4 which stil has pretty decent battery, so I would like to use 
it as Ipod.
I don't have a sim card for activating the phone and I haven't found any 
other option to activate it.

I tried Itunes, but it keeps saying I need a valid Sim card.
Please, is there a way how to activate Iphone without a sim card?
I don't want to use it for phone calls, I have Iphone 6 for that.
Thank you very much for your help.
With kind regards,
Maria

Odoslané z iPhonu

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RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Mary is correct, there are of course way more Android devices out there, but if 
you look at the smartphone industry in terms of profits Apple totally dominates 
because they make expensive devices with high profit margins. Saying there are 
other drinks out there other than Coke is true, but that would be like 
comparing the smartphone market to the market which includes TV’s, appliances, 
computer screens and so on. Yes, Samsung and LG are huge corporations which 
make everything from washers to laptops and smartphones, bluetooth headsets to 
screens, but Apple is not the richest and most valueable company in the world 
for nothing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Victor, every few months their articles coming out telling how much of the 
phone market which company has in terms of profits. Year after year, Apple 
makes the vast majority of profits in the phone market. You might not like it. 
But it's true. There's a whole lot of the technical press that is all over 
articles every time some company gains a little bit of marketshare. Waymore 
phones have android on them then there are iPhones. And that makes exactly no 
difference, because the vast majority of the actual money being made is being 
made by Apple on phones, not any of the other companies. Samsung makes a bunch 
of money. They make some profit on phones. They also make a ton of money in 
other industries. All those cheap phones that all those folks are making our 
nonprofit producers. Again, you might not like it. It might not be "fair". But 
that's how it is.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Victor Gouveia 
mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:
Mary, you can’t make blanket statements without looking it up first.

One cannot say that Apple is making most of the money in this industry because 
Apple is only one company, whereas there are at least seven or eight companies 
manufacturing cell phones that are not Apple.  To say that Apple was making 
most of the money in this industry is like saying that Coke is making most of 
the money in the pop industry when there are so many other drinks available 
like juices, soft drinks, milk, coffee, or tea.

Now if you were to say that Apple was making most of the money compared to 
Samsung or even Sony would be more appropriate, but even then your statement 
would be wrong as these two companies alone make thousands of products Apple 
does not, so please, check your facts before your tout them as facts.

Victor

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making most of 
the money in this industry. There are many people who make android devices. 
Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in business forever if they 
don't make a profit.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia 
mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:
Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS reliability and 
phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away from Apple devices for just 
that reason.  With the added advances in the camera, both front and rear, 
pictures will get larger, and I don’t even think there are phones available 
higher than the five that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are 
pushing it.  When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they 
realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take pictures, 
I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the 32 gig devices, 
especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the smaller issue.  How many 
phones out there are getting more and more waterproof and dust proof, and they 
don’t seem to have a problem with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security 
could be plugged to avoid that sort of thing.  Fact is, I think that Apple is 
guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their content from 
iTunes and App store.  Open up the file system and you’re looking at an easier 
way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t have that  Regardless, I do think that 
Apple should open their eyes when it comes to expansion, if only to make it 
easier to connect to a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold 
when the Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in.  Just a 
thought.

Victor

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Hi Victor,

I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and o

RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

Well said, Apple has a totally different business model as it relies on its 
hardware and services to make money. Google makes its money from advertising, 
but of course now that Alphabet Inc. which owns Google and a multitude of other 
companies has been set up, it is even more complicated. The fact is that 
Android is a platform which manufacturers can use and customize and impose 
their own UI elements on, there are hundreds and hundreds of manufacturers who 
make Android devices and there is one company which makes Apple devices with 
iOS. I always hear how users are running from Apple to Android because of all 
that fantastic flexibility and freedom Android offers, yet while apple 
experienced less growth about a year ago, the iPhone 7/7 Plus again were hugely 
successful and just as people leave iOS to try Android, the opposite is also 
true. I really think we should stop making every argument for or against one or 
the other a competition as to what is better. The fct is that both platforms 
are good, both are very mature by now, you can get beautiful devices from Apple 
and you can get beautiful Android phones. Everybody decides what they want and 
you are totally correct that Apple should make as much money as they can which 
of course is what they do. They are a publically traded company and they have 
an obligation towards their shareholders to make money. Pablo left the iPhone 
behind a couple or 3 years ago because he thought Android was so much better. 
When he came back to the list having just bought an iPhone 7 I think he said 
himself how Android had all this flexibility but that it also had its issues. I 
personally can’t justify owning two high-end smartphones and maintaining two 
cell phone plans and while Apple sometimes totally screws up, I do for the most 
part like their devices and ecosystem and so far have not felt the need to try 
Android.
At the same time I am perfectly happy with my Windows computers and what 
Microsoft has been doing with Windows 10, I like Jaws and know it inside out 
and therefore don’t feel any urge to try Apple computers.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Pablo,

I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like Apple to 
want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any company not 
operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And you speak of Android 
as if it's one company instead of the multitude of companies that make devices 
that run under Android. If you don't like Apple's closed file system which 
seems to be working pretty well for them based on their sales and current stock 
price, you should use an Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. 
That's the way supply and demand is supposed to work in our economic system.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android device. 
Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with sd cards.
Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with everything, 
and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone memory. With the story 
abour copy rights they have done very difficult for users manage music between 
iPhones, or also between iPhone and other devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to 
transfer music to our iPhones, but use this app is really difficult for 
standard users. More over in android devices you can store there documents of 
all types, you can create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in 
our computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons why 
I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different politics and 
different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more money. Android’s 
culture is share, share and share again. Apple wants to control so much what we 
do in our devices. Android gives freedom to do what ever you want, and more 
important, in a very easy way.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Hi Victor,

I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and offer SD card 
expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce media on an SD card then the 
OS must have access to the f

RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Cris Ali]

I have no interest in the apple versus android comparison.  What I find 
interesting though is that the new iPad is even weaker than the iPad pro  9.7 
inch which was released last spring.  The iPad pro 9.7 of last year has 5 MB 
front facing Camera and 12 MB back Camera.  The new one has 1.2 MB front 
facing, and 8 MB back Camera.  They both has the same A9 processor and they 
have similar storage options.  It also seems that the new model is slightly 
heavier. So the question is then:  What is the advantage of buying the new iPad 
other than the fact it is slightly cheaper?
Did any of you find any other advantages for buying the new iPad?

Regards,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marissa Solaun
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

May be of interest to those seeking a red iPhone 7/7+
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/apple-introduces-cheapest-ipad-yet-special-edition-red-iphone
Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone
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“Since we began working with (RED) 10 years ago, our customers have made a 
significant impact in fighting the spread of AIDS through the purchase of our 
products, from the original iPod nano (PRODUCT)RED Special Edition all the way 
to today’s lineup of Beats products and accessories for iPhone, iPad and Apple 
Watch,” Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said in a 
statement Tuesday.

Apple is the world’s largest corporate donor to the Global Fund, contributing 
more than $130 million, the company said.

Apple is expected to reveal a significant upgrade to the iPhone later this year.
Cupertino, California-based Apple last year unveiled a new iPhone which 
reignited sales growth in the Christmas quarter after a year of declines. Those 
falling sales came even as Apple introduced a cheaper handset in March in an 
effort to spur growth in emerging markets. The only sales growth in the 2016 
fiscal year came from the services business, which includes Apple Music and the 
App Store, and the other products category.

Apple shares rose less than one percent to $142.55 at 10:24 a.m. in New York. 
Earlier they hit a new intraday high of $142.80.
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The new iPad starts at $329 for 32GB with Wi-Fi and $459 for 32GB Wi-Fi plus 
cellular. It will be available to order starting March 24 in the U.S. and more 
than 20 other countries and regions. The iPhone (RED) models will be available 
in 128GB and 256GB models starting at $749 from March 24. Apple also announced 
new storage capacity for the iPhone SE. That 4-inch display model will now be 
available in 32GB and 128GB models, doubling the current capacity and replacing 
the previous models.

Other product launches Tuesday include a new app called 
Clips,
 that helps people combine video clips, photos and music that can be shared 
through social media and messages. Apple also said its Swift Playgrounds iPad 
app, which helps students learn to code, is available in five additional 
languages: Japanese, French, German, Spanish and simplified Chinese.

Watch Next: Apple's Tim Cook Is Betting on Augmented Reality
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Re: Is anyone having problems with tunein radio pro?

[James Gibson]

It won't let me in to my favorites or anything I'll keep checking back trying 
it hopefully it comes up later I'm also emailed them and told them

> On Mar 23, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it doesn't seem to be available at the moment.
> 
> Pam
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Kathy 
> Brandt [katya20...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Is anyone having problems with tunein radio pro?
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> Nothing comes up under home or favorites, and when I try to browse, it says 
> service unavailable, error 503.
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RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Gerardo,
I disagree. I have found better accessibility on android apps, and in all areas 
of android than what I have found in IOs apps and IOs. I also use both 
platforms. I have several examples of apps on android that provide better 
accessibility than what I have found in IOs. IOs is more limited, and it makes 
more simple the use of phone and apps, but simplicity doesn't mean better. 
Ability to get information, is what I call accessibility. 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

Apple is the vest in accessibility still. Android still has some ways to go. 
I'm speaking from the persective of having both platforms of course.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

> El 23/03/2017, a las 7:12 a.m., Dave  escribió:
> 
> who cares! for god sake, use which ever phone you want, and get on with it!
> 
> Now please give it a rest!!
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: rajmund
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
> 
> and here we go.isn't the high end android the same price as an apple, 
> anyway?
> 
> Sent from Thunderbird
> 
>> On 23/03/17 1:51 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:
>> Most don’t make profit?
>> 
>> How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?
>> 
>> It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are 
>> moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I 
>> should recommend  that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a 
>> nexus 6p, or a pixel phone. They are great.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
>> Behalf Of *Mary Otten
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition 
>> Red iPhone - Bloomberg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making 
>> most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make 
>> android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in 
>> business forever if they don't make a profit.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia 
>> mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS
>>reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away
>>from Apple devices for just that reason.  With the added advances in
>>the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I
>>don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five
>>that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it.
>>When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they
>>realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take
>>pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the
>>32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the
>>smaller issue.  How many phones out there are getting more and more
>>waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem
>>with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged
>>to avoid that sort of thing.  Fact is, I think that Apple is
>>guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their
>>content from iTunes and App store.  Open up the file system and
>>you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t
>>have that.  Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes
>>when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to
>>a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the
>>Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in.  Just a
>>thought.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>Victor
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>*From:*Sieghard Weitzel
>> 
>>*Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM
>> 
>>*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>>*Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
>>Red iPhone - Bloomberg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>Hi Victor,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and
>>offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce
>>media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or
>>maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give
>>users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly
>>defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD
>>card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of
>>latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all

Re: Is anyone having problems with tunein radio pro?

[James Gibson]

I am also having the same problem apparently it must be down I don't know what 
is going on

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Apple Acquires Workflow App

[Alan Lemly]

The Workflow app got a lot of attention on this list when it came out a
couple of years back so I thought the below news item I got from Mac Rumors
via Lire might be of interest. I'm pasting the story after my signature.

 

Alan Lemly

 

Apple Acquires Popular Automation App Workflow

Wednesday March 22, 2017 4:48 pm PDT by Juli Clover

 

Apple has acquired well-known and popular automation app Workflow, reports
TechCrunch. The deal was reportedly finalized today for an unspecified sum.

 

Workflow, first released in 2014, is an automation tool that can essentially
do anything. It allows users to create a variety of workflows to accomplish
tasks like creating GIFs from a series of photos, pulling images from a web
page, translating an article, posting photos to multiple social networks at
once, calculating a tip, and tons more.

 

 

It is equipped with a built-in Gallery, which allows people to quickly find
and use a wide range of automation tasks, and it can be used to create
custom automations.

 

Apple is purchasing the Workflow app and the Workflow team, including Ari
Weinstein, Conrad Kramer, and Nick Frey, will be joining the company.

 

"We are thrilled to be joining Apple," said Weinstein in a statement.
"We've worked closely with Apple from the very beginning, from kickstarting
our company as students attending WWDC to developing and launching Workflow
and seeing its amazing success on the App Store. We can't wait to take our
work to the next level at Apple and contribute to products that touch people
across the world.

 

Apple confirmed the acquisition of Workflow, which notably received an Apple
Design Award in 2015 for its excellent accessibility features, likely one of
the reasons behind the purchase.

 

Typically apps acquired from Apple disappear from the App Store, but
Workflow will remain available and will be made free starting later today.
The Gallery will continue to be updated on a regular basis, as will app
integrations.

 

Beyond the app, it is not clear what Apple will do with Workflow in the
future, and whether it will be built into future versions of iOS and macOS,
but it is definitely a possibility. TechCrunch speculates that it could be
used alongside Siri in the future, or perhaps be the backbone of powerful
automation tools for the iPad.

 

Update: Workflow can now be downloaded from the App Store for free. [Direct
Link]

 

Tags: Apple acquisition, Workflow

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Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Gerardo Corripio]

Apple is the vest in accessibility still. Android still has some ways to go. 
I'm speaking from the persective of having both platforms of course.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

> El 23/03/2017, a las 7:12 a.m., Dave  escribió:
> 
> who cares! for god sake, use which ever phone you want, and get on with it!
> 
> Now please give it a rest!!
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: rajmund
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
> Bloomberg
> 
> and here we go.isn't the high end android the same price as an apple,
> anyway?
> 
> Sent from Thunderbird
> 
>> On 23/03/17 1:51 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:
>> Most don’t make profit?
>> 
>> How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?
>> 
>> It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are
>> moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should
>> recommend  that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p,
>> or a pixel phone. They are great.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Mary Otten
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
>> iPhone - Bloomberg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making
>> most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make
>> android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in
>> business forever if they don't make a profit.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia > > wrote:
>> 
>>Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS
>>reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away
>>from Apple devices for just that reason.  With the added advances in
>>the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I
>>don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five
>>that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it.
>>When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they
>>realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take
>>pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the
>>32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the
>>smaller issue.  How many phones out there are getting more and more
>>waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem
>>with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged
>>to avoid that sort of thing.  Fact is, I think that Apple is
>>guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their
>>content from iTunes and App store.  Open up the file system and
>>you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t
>>have that.  Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes
>>when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to
>>a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the
>>Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in.  Just a
>>thought.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>Victor
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>*From:*Sieghard Weitzel
>> 
>>*Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM
>> 
>>*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>>*Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
>>Red iPhone - Bloomberg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>Hi Victor,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and
>>offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce
>>media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or
>>maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give
>>users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly
>>defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD
>>card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of
>>latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes
>>against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some
>>high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be
>>wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example
>>have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an
>>iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but
>>having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there
>>hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly
>>waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more
>>difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no
>>problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that
>>nowadays 16 Gb doe

How does the Watch ESPN app working for you.

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Guys,

Is the Watch ESPN app accessible and if so how well does it work to get news
and other information?

Mr. Ed

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RE: Is anyone having problems with tunein radio pro?

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Yes, it doesn't seem to be available at the moment.

Pam



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Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:34 AM
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Nothing comes up under home or favorites, and when I try to browse, it says 
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Is anyone having problems with tunein radio pro?

[Kathy Brandt]

Nothing comes up under home or favorites, and when I try to browse, it says 
service unavailable, error 503.

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Re: Is anyone having problems with tunein radio pro?

[Nancy Badger]

Yes, I tried it this morning and it said internal server error 500.

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

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Re: Putting music on an iPhone

[Russ Kiehne]

There is one problem with Waltr 2.  It doesn't support itunes file sharing. 
I would not be able to transfer large zip files into voice dream reader.  If 
I could use it in place of itunes file sharing, I would say goodbuy to 
itunes.


-Original Message- 
From: Andrew

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Putting music on an iPhone

Hi Chip and all, I previously posted about a program I use named Waltr 2.
I put ringtones, mp3's etc on my I Phone 7 with no issues. Do a search on 
Waltr 2 minus the E.  Andrew


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Chip Orange

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Putting music on an iPhone

If you mean directly connected to the phone, not that I know of (although 
there are micro xd cards which go up to 128gb I think, and you can purchase 
a usb lightning card reader).


However, you can connect external large drives to a pc which is always on, 
and make the drive sharable, or connect such a drive to the usb sharing port 
of many wifi routers (my new router from TPLink has 2 such usb ports, giving 
you an instant sort of NAS).  And of course, you might consider setting up a 
NAS yourself (more trouble to setup, but it's always on and faster and more 
reliable than connecting an external drive to a wifi router).


Hope somewhere in there is the answer you needed?

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Larry McCreary

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Putting music on an iPhone

Hello,
Is there a 1 gig drive that can be purchased for the iPhone.  I had an 
article from wsj and I lost it from my email before I had a chance to read 
it.
Thanks much.On Mar 22, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Chip Orange 
 wrote:


The File Explorer app (which is only around $3) will both move files to 
your phone, and will also act as a music player for such files, regardless 
of whether they are located on your phone or on a network share.


When I say "move to your phone", this is not in a location usable by Apple 
Music (as far as I know), but it's quite a nice way to get around Apple 
music and iTunes.


Hth,

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Putting music on an iPhone

Music is actually an app not a folder and unfortunately there is no way to 
get music into the Music app except to use iTunes, buy the music from the 
iTunes Store or  sign up for Apple Music. Actually if you do have Apple 
Music and you have some of your own music which is not available from 
iTunes, you still need to have this music either in iTunes or on your 
iPhone so it can get uploaded to Apple.
You can use Dropbox or OneDrive to store you music and then use a 
different app to play said music, I think one of these apps is called 
CloudPlayer.
Having said all this, the latest version of iTunes is actually the most 
accessible version since iTunes 11 and syncing music is really not very 
difficult.


Regards,
Sieghard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kay Malmquist

Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Putting music on an iPhone

Hi all,
Can somebody tell me the easiest way to put music on an iPhone without 
using iTunes? I have not fed iTunes app for this phone as of yet and would 
really rather not if it all possible. I would like to music to show up in 
the music folder if Kathy bowl like it would if you use iTunes. Any help.


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Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a PC

[MamaPeach]

Sorry for the duplicate message

-Original Message- 
From: MamaPeach

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a 
PC


I installed the light version and it found my network and my external drives
without me having to do much at all. I did not have to go through manual set
up or anything. With the lite version, it lets you listen to a small
sampling of a file/files and then suggests for you to purchase the full
version, which I intend to do. This app is GREAT!

-Original Message- 
From: MamaPeach

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a
PC

Oh, great, I didn't know there was a lite version, I will check it out.
Thanks so much.

-Original Message- 
From: Carla Savage

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a
PC

Hi,
I would just leave the password field blank. I would think that would work.
You could try with File Browser Light first before spending out on the paid
version.
Hope that helps,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone


On 23 Mar 2017, at 11:34 am, MamaPeach  wrote:

What if you don't use a password for your PC? I have been considering 
getting this app because Tonido is no longer accessible once you reach a 
certain point, but I wasn't sure how File Browser really worked and if I 
could access my external hard drives with it.


-Original Message- From: Carla Savage
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a 
PC


Hi All,
I've been having a play with File Browser. If you want to connect to your 
pc, then it will ask for your name. So, in my case my username on my PC 
was Carla. The password is the password you use to log into your PC. All 
works great and I find it a really useful App. I have now also managed to 
connect to an external drive. Just need to share permissions and then 
double tap the letter of the drive when you connect to your PC as it will 
show up after successful connection.

Hope this helps,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone


On 10 Mar 2017, at 2:10 pm, Carla Savage  wrote:

Hi John,
That's great. You didn't confuse me. Can you upload a folder with MP3's 
in it? I'm guessing probably not but just curious.

Thanks,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone


On 10 Mar 2017, at 7:10 am,   wrote:

Hi Karla, when you get access to your files with file browser, you
highlite  the file you want to put up on whatsapp, and swipe once to the
right to menu.  Double tap on menu, and choose Share this file, and
double tap their.  You will see Open in different programs, but you want
to look for simply whatsapp.  You may  have to go to more, and look for
whatsapp, and toggal it on.  When you double tap on whatsapp, you will 
be

taken in to whatsapp, and see all of your chats.  Double tap on the one
you want to put the file in, and double tap on Send.  You will see the
file size and such, at that point, double tap on Send again, and your
file will start uploading.  Hope I haven't confused you to much!  GRIN!

Have a good one:
John


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Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a PC

[MamaPeach]

I installed the light version and it found my network and my external drives
without me having to do much at all. I did not have to go through manual set
up or anything. With the lite version, it lets you listen to a small
sampling of a file/files and then suggests for you to purchase the full
version, which I intend to do. This app is GREAT!

-Original Message- 
From: MamaPeach

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a 
PC


Oh, great, I didn't know there was a lite version, I will check it out.
Thanks so much.

-Original Message- 
From: Carla Savage

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a
PC

Hi,
I would just leave the password field blank. I would think that would work.
You could try with File Browser Light first before spending out on the paid
version.
Hope that helps,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone


On 23 Mar 2017, at 11:34 am, MamaPeach  wrote:

What if you don't use a password for your PC? I have been considering 
getting this app because Tonido is no longer accessible once you reach a 
certain point, but I wasn't sure how File Browser really worked and if I 
could access my external hard drives with it.


-Original Message- From: Carla Savage
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a 
PC


Hi All,
I've been having a play with File Browser. If you want to connect to your 
pc, then it will ask for your name. So, in my case my username on my PC 
was Carla. The password is the password you use to log into your PC. All 
works great and I find it a really useful App. I have now also managed to 
connect to an external drive. Just need to share permissions and then 
double tap the letter of the drive when you connect to your PC as it will 
show up after successful connection.

Hope this helps,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone


On 10 Mar 2017, at 2:10 pm, Carla Savage  wrote:

Hi John,
That's great. You didn't confuse me. Can you upload a folder with MP3's 
in it? I'm guessing probably not but just curious.

Thanks,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone


On 10 Mar 2017, at 7:10 am,   wrote:

Hi Karla, when you get access to your files with file browser, you
highlite  the file you want to put up on whatsapp, and swipe once to the
right to menu.  Double tap on menu, and choose Share this file, and
double tap their.  You will see Open in different programs, but you want
to look for simply whatsapp.  You may  have to go to more, and look for
whatsapp, and toggal it on.  When you double tap on whatsapp, you will 
be

taken in to whatsapp, and see all of your chats.  Double tap on the one
you want to put the file in, and double tap on Send.  You will see the
file size and such, at that point, double tap on Send again, and your
file will start uploading.  Hope I haven't confused you to much!  GRIN!

Have a good one:
John


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Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Dave]

apples and bananas for tea.


-Original Message- 
From: Pablo Cesar Morales

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
iPhone - Bloomberg


Yes, you are right. Like Christopher said before. Everything depends of 
likes. Some people like apple, some people like android. I used iPhone for 
several years, and for several years I have been complaining about apple 
software policies. Now with android I don't have those problems, so of 
course  I am happy using android more than IOs. However people who are 
comfortable using apple software policies , they don't see any advantage 
using android. But those are likes. I like apple because it was the first 
smart device that I used. However some situations that aggravated me that 
probably doesn't aggravate you or other users, moved me to android. But you, 
me and everyone are different.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of rajmund

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
iPhone - Bloomberg


i,
android, however, at the end of the day, is android. and no matter how much 
you customise it, no matter how accessible it is, at the end of the day, 
it's android, and trust me, some of us don't like it. and no, it's not a 
matter of being able to use it or whether it's accessible.


Sent from Thunderbird

On 23/03/17 1:48 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:

*No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The
Customers are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much
better on android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a 
pixel phone.

I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot
of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something
that I was missing when I was an iPhone user.*

*I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using
internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for
what ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is
installed automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel
phone not with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able
to install apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular
browser. Not
iTunes.*

*If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with
copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my
computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that.*

*If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t
need to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties
apps in my phone and it is it.*

*I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using
jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand.*

*I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just
doesn’t exist or is very low.*

*Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In
United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is
because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because
you are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when
iPhones used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true
that android wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and
android user. I like better android for many many reasons.*

* *

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Pablo,



I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like
Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that
any company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world.
And you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the
multitude of companies that make devices that run under Android. If
you don't like Apple's closed file system which seems to be working
pretty well for them based on their sales and current stock price, you
should use an Android device and I hope it meets all your needs.
That's the way supply and demand is supposed to work in our economic 
system.




Alan Lemly



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android
device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones
with sd cards.

Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with
everything, and they want to handle what you place in your 

Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Dave]

who cares! for god sake, use which ever phone you want, and get on with it!

Now please give it a rest!!

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: rajmund

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
iPhone - Bloomberg


and here we go.isn't the high end android the same price as an apple,
anyway?

Sent from Thunderbird

On 23/03/17 1:51 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:

Most don’t make profit?

How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?

It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are
moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should
recommend  that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p,
or a pixel phone. They are great.









*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Mary Otten
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making
most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make
android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in
business forever if they don't make a profit.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:

Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS
reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away
from Apple devices for just that reason.  With the added advances in
the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I
don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five
that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it.
When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they
realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take
pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the
32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the
smaller issue.  How many phones out there are getting more and more
waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem
with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged
to avoid that sort of thing.  Fact is, I think that Apple is
guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their
content from iTunes and App store.  Open up the file system and
you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t
have that.  Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes
when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to
a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the
Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in.  Just a
thought.



Victor



*From:*Sieghard Weitzel

*Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
Red iPhone - Bloomberg



Hi Victor,



I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and
offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce
media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or
maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give
users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly
defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD
card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of
latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes
against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some
high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be
wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example
have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an
iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but
having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there
hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly
waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more
difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no
problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that
nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people
still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the
space) for $100 more.



Regards,

Sieghard



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:56 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
Red iPhone - Bloomberg

Re: Please, I need help with activating Iphone

[Scott Berry]

No there absolutely is not.


> On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:59 AM, Mária Orovčíková  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> I have Iphone 4 which stil has pretty decent battery, so I would like to use 
> it as Ipod.
> I don't have a sim card for activating the phone and I haven't found any 
> other option to activate it.
> I tried Itunes, but it keeps saying I need a valid Sim card.
> Please, is there a way how to activate Iphone without a sim card?
> I don't want to use it for phone calls, I have Iphone 6 for that.
> Thank you very much for your help.
> With kind regards,
> Maria
> 
> Odoslané z iPhonu
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Re: Please, I need help with activating Iphone

[Dave]

could get a prepaid sim card

-Original Message- 
From: Mária Orovčíková

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Please, I need help with activating Iphone

Hello list,
I have Iphone 4 which stil has pretty decent battery, so I would like to use 
it as Ipod.
I don't have a sim card for activating the phone and I haven't found any 
other option to activate it.

I tried Itunes, but it keeps saying I need a valid Sim card.
Please, is there a way how to activate Iphone without a sim card?
I don't want to use it for phone calls, I have Iphone 6 for that.
Thank you very much for your help.
With kind regards,
Maria

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Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a PC

[MamaPeach]

Oh, great, I didn't know there was a lite version, I will check it out. 
Thanks so much.


-Original Message- 
From: Carla Savage

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a 
PC


Hi,
I would just leave the password field blank. I would think that would work. 
You could try with File Browser Light first before spending out on the paid 
version.

Hope that helps,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone


On 23 Mar 2017, at 11:34 am, MamaPeach  wrote:

What if you don't use a password for your PC? I have been considering 
getting this app because Tonido is no longer accessible once you reach a 
certain point, but I wasn't sure how File Browser really worked and if I 
could access my external hard drives with it.


-Original Message- From: Carla Savage
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a 
PC


Hi All,
I've been having a play with File Browser. If you want to connect to your 
pc, then it will ask for your name. So, in my case my username on my PC 
was Carla. The password is the password you use to log into your PC. All 
works great and I find it a really useful App. I have now also managed to 
connect to an external drive. Just need to share permissions and then 
double tap the letter of the drive when you connect to your PC as it will 
show up after successful connection.

Hope this helps,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone


On 10 Mar 2017, at 2:10 pm, Carla Savage  wrote:

Hi John,
That's great. You didn't confuse me. Can you upload a folder with MP3's 
in it? I'm guessing probably not but just curious.

Thanks,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone


On 10 Mar 2017, at 7:10 am,   wrote:

Hi Karla, when you get access to your files with file browser, you
highlite  the file you want to put up on whatsapp, and swipe once to the
right to menu.  Double tap on menu, and choose Share this file, and
double tap their.  You will see Open in different programs, but you want
to look for simply whatsapp.  You may  have to go to more, and look for
whatsapp, and toggal it on.  When you double tap on whatsapp, you will 
be

taken in to whatsapp, and see all of your chats.  Double tap on the one
you want to put the file in, and double tap on Send.  You will see the
file size and such, at that point, double tap on Send again, and your
file will start uploading.  Hope I haven't confused you to much!  GRIN!

Have a good one:
John


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RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Yes, you are right. Like Christopher said before. Everything depends of likes. 
Some people like apple, some people like android. I used iPhone for several 
years, and for several years I have been complaining about apple software 
policies. Now with android I don't have those problems, so of course  I am 
happy using android more than IOs. However people who are comfortable using 
apple software policies , they don't see any advantage using android. But those 
are likes. I like apple because it was the first smart device that I used. 
However some situations that aggravated me that probably doesn't aggravate you 
or other users, moved me to android. But you, me and everyone are different.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - 
Bloomberg

i,
android, however, at the end of the day, is android. and no matter how much you 
customise it, no matter how accessible it is, at the end of the day, it's 
android, and trust me, some of us don't like it. and no, it's not a matter of 
being able to use it or whether it's accessible.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 23/03/17 1:48 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:
> *No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The 
> Customers are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much 
> better on android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a pixel 
> phone.
> I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot 
> of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something 
> that I was missing when I was an iPhone user.*
>
> *I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using 
> internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for 
> what ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is 
> installed automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel 
> phone not with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able 
> to install apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular 
> browser. Not
> iTunes.*
>
> *If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with 
> copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my 
> computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that.*
>
> *If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t 
> need to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties 
> apps in my phone and it is it.*
>
> *I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using 
> jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand.*
>
> *I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just 
> doesn’t exist or is very low.*
>
> *Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In 
> United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is 
> because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because 
> you are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when 
> iPhones used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true 
> that android wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and 
> android user. I like better android for many many reasons.*
>
> * *
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Pablo,
>
>
>
> I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like 
> Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that 
> any company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. 
> And you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the 
> multitude of companies that make devices that run under Android. If 
> you don't like Apple's closed file system which seems to be working 
> pretty well for them based on their sales and current stock price, you 
> should use an Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. 
> That's the way supply and demand is supposed to work in our economic system.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red 
> iPhone - Bloomberg
>
>
>
> Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android 
> device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones 
> with sd cards.
>
> Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with 
> everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone 
> memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very

iTunes 12,6

[Carla Savage]

Hi All, 
Just checking what people's experiences have been with iTunes 12,6? I don't 
want to update and then have to delete everything off to re-install an earlier 
version. Do the tracks get read properly now? Do all the fields get read? I use 
Window-Eyes. 
Many thanks, 
Carla.


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Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a PC

[Carla Savage]

Hi, 
I would just leave the password field blank. I would think that would work. You 
could try with File Browser Light first before spending out on the paid 
version. 
Hope that helps, 
Carla. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Mar 2017, at 11:34 am, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> What if you don't use a password for your PC? I have been considering getting 
> this app because Tonido is no longer accessible once you reach a certain 
> point, but I wasn't sure how File Browser really worked and if I could access 
> my external hard drives with it.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Carla Savage
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a PC
> 
> Hi All,
> I've been having a play with File Browser. If you want to connect to your pc, 
> then it will ask for your name. So, in my case my username on my PC was 
> Carla. The password is the password you use to log into your PC. All works 
> great and I find it a really useful App. I have now also managed to connect 
> to an external drive. Just need to share permissions and then double tap the 
> letter of the drive when you connect to your PC as it will show up after 
> successful connection.
> Hope this helps,
> Carla.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2017, at 2:10 pm, Carla Savage  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> That's great. You didn't confuse me. Can you upload a folder with MP3's in 
>> it? I'm guessing probably not but just curious.
>> Thanks,
>> Carla.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 10 Mar 2017, at 7:10 am,   wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Karla, when you get access to your files with file browser, you
>>> highlite  the file you want to put up on whatsapp, and swipe once to the
>>> right to menu.  Double tap on menu, and choose Share this file, and
>>> double tap their.  You will see Open in different programs, but you want
>>> to look for simply whatsapp.  You may  have to go to more, and look for
>>> whatsapp, and toggal it on.  When you double tap on whatsapp, you will be
>>> taken in to whatsapp, and see all of your chats.  Double tap on the one
>>> you want to put the file in, and double tap on Send.  You will see the
>>> file size and such, at that point, double tap on Send again, and your
>>> file will start uploading.  Hope I haven't confused you to much!  GRIN!
>>> 
>>> Have a good one:
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sasha Obama's IQ Will Make You Laugh Out Loud
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Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a PC

[MamaPeach]

What if you don't use a password for your PC? I have been considering 
getting this app because Tonido is no longer accessible once you reach a 
certain point, but I wasn't sure how File Browser really worked and if I 
could access my external hard drives with it.


-Original Message- 
From: Carla Savage

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File Browser and Tonido accessing external drives linked to a 
PC


Hi All,
I've been having a play with File Browser. If you want to connect to your 
pc, then it will ask for your name. So, in my case my username on my PC was 
Carla. The password is the password you use to log into your PC. All works 
great and I find it a really useful App. I have now also managed to connect 
to an external drive. Just need to share permissions and then double tap the 
letter of the drive when you connect to your PC as it will show up after 
successful connection.

Hope this helps,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone


On 10 Mar 2017, at 2:10 pm, Carla Savage  wrote:

Hi John,
That's great. You didn't confuse me. Can you upload a folder with MP3's in 
it? I'm guessing probably not but just curious.

Thanks,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone


On 10 Mar 2017, at 7:10 am,   wrote:

Hi Karla, when you get access to your files with file browser, you
highlite  the file you want to put up on whatsapp, and swipe once to the
right to menu.  Double tap on menu, and choose Share this file, and
double tap their.  You will see Open in different programs, but you want
to look for simply whatsapp.  You may  have to go to more, and look for
whatsapp, and toggal it on.  When you double tap on whatsapp, you will be
taken in to whatsapp, and see all of your chats.  Double tap on the one
you want to put the file in, and double tap on Send.  You will see the
file size and such, at that point, double tap on Send again, and your
file will start uploading.  Hope I haven't confused you to much!  GRIN!

Have a good one:
John


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Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[rajmund]

and here we go.isn't the high end android the same price as an apple, 
anyway?


Sent from Thunderbird

On 23/03/17 1:51 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:

Most don’t make profit?

How a company is going to be in business if they don’t male profit?

It doesn’t make sence. Yes, a lot of people is leaving IOs and are
moving to android. You should try it, is much better. However I should
recommend  that don’t buy a cheap android phone. Try to buy a nexus 6p,
or a pixel phone. They are great.









*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Mary Otten
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:59 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Well, apparently not too many people are moving away. Apple is making
most of the money in this industry. There are many people who make
android devices. Most of them make no profit. Companies don't stay in
business forever if they don't make a profit.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Victor Gouveia mailto:victor.gouv...@rogers.com>> wrote:

Hi Sieghard, while I can appreciate your issue regarding OS
reliability and phone integrity, the fact is people are moving away
from Apple devices for just that reason.  With the added advances in
the camera, both front and rear, pictures will get larger, and I
don’t even think there are phones available higher than the five
that have 16 gig memory, and even those devices are pushing it.
When they introduced the enhanced camera in the iPhone six, they
realized that sixteen gigs just wouldn’t do if people wanted to take
pictures, I mean, I’m still amazed that they’re still offering the
32 gig devices, especially in the iPad, but again, this is just the
smaller issue.  How many phones out there are getting more and more
waterproof and dust proof, and they don’t seem to have a problem
with an SD card slot, in addition, the OS security could be plugged
to avoid that sort of thing.  Fact is, I think that Apple is
guarding it’s closed platform so people are forced to get their
content from iTunes and App store.  Open up the file system and
you’re looking at an easier way to jailbreak, and Apple couldn’t
have that.  Regardless, I do think that Apple should open their eyes
when it comes to expansion, if only to make it easier to connect to
a portable solution, lest they get left out in the cold when the
Android devices that allow for expansion come rumbling in.  Just a
thought.



Victor



*From:*Sieghard Weitzel

*Sent:*Tuesday, March 21, 2017 11:47 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition
Red iPhone - Bloomberg



Hi Victor,



I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled garden concept and
offer SD card expansion slots. If you allow people to introduce
media on an SD card then the OS must have access to the folders or
maybe it would be more accurate to say that Apple would have to give
users access to what is on the SD card and that would possibly
defeat the purpose of the closed nature of the platform. Any SD
card, even the newest and fastest, would also introduce a lot of
latency in how fast things get loaded and I think this all goes
against what Apple wants to achieve. I think actually that even some
high-end Android phones are moving away from that, but I might be
wrong, just something I heard. Does the Google Pixel for example
have an SD card slot? Lastly, having such an expansion slot on an
iPad is one thing because there is probably plenty of space, but
having it on an iPhone is most likely not very practical as there
hardly is any space left as is and of course making a highly
waterproof or water resistant device would probably be much more
difficult if the device had an SD card slot Personally I have no
problem with Apple offering internal memory, I totally agree that
nowadays 16 Gb doesn’t get you far, but I wonder how many people
still buy 16 Gb devices if they can get a 64 Gb device (4 times the
space) for $100 more.



Regards,

Sieghard



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Victor Gouveia
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Red iPhone - Bloomberg



I don’t agree.  Granted, the 300 dollar price tag is nice, but not
with the memory it’s offering.



I think the 32 and 16 models of any device is outdated, unless it’s
got an expansion slot for an SD card.



Frankly, I’m completely surprised that Apple hasn’t embraced this
concept, sin

Re: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red iPhone - Bloomberg

[rajmund]

i,
android, however, at the end of the day, is android. and no matter how 
much you customise it, no matter how accessible it is, at the end of the 
day, it's android, and trust me, some of us don't like it. and no, it's 
not a matter of being able to use it or whether it's accessible.


Sent from Thunderbird

On 23/03/17 1:48 AM, Pablo Cesar Morales wrote:

*No, I am not saying that apple is doing something wrong. The Customers
are who are doing wrong here. Today accessibility is much better on
android devices than on IOs. I have an iPhone, and I have a pixel phone.
I leave my iPhone every day at home, and I take my pixel. I have a lot
of freedom using a pixel phone, and I love freedom. It is something that
I was missing when I was an iPhone user.*

*I am able to install apps in my pixel sitting on my computer using
internet explorer. I just go to the google play store, I search for what
ever app, and I press enter on install. That is it. The app is installed
automaticly in my pixel phone. More over, if I have my pixel phone not
with me. Because I forgot my phone in my office. I am able to install
apps, or remove apps from my home, just using a regular browser. Not
iTunes.*

*If I want to put music in my phone, I just connect my phone, and with
copy and paste, I am able to transfer what ever music or video from my
computer to my phone, not need to use iTunes for that.*

*If I want to install apps that are not in the play store, I don’t need
to do what apple users has to do. I just enable third parties apps in my
phone and it is it.*

*I have eloquence install in my pixel, the same voice that is using
jaws. I like this voice, it is easier to understand.*

*I have found better accessibility in a lot of apps that in IOs just
doesn’t exist or is very low.*

*Android is a platform that is use a lot outside the United States. In
United States exist the idea that if you are an android user, it is
because you are poor, and if you have an iPhone, then it is because you
are nice. Stupid ideas that we developed from those days when iPhones
used to be more expensive than android phones. Yes is true that android
wasn’t that good before, but today I am an iPhone and android user. I
like better android for many many reasons.*

* *

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:11 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Pablo,



I'm not sure why you think it's wrong for a for-profit company like
Apple to want to make money on their products. I guarantee you that any
company not operating in this fashion won't be long of this world. And
you speak of Android as if it's one company instead of the multitude of
companies that make devices that run under Android. If you don't like
Apple's closed file system which seems to be working pretty well for
them based on their sales and current stock price, you should use an
Android device and I hope it meets all your needs. That's the way supply
and demand is supposed to work in our economic system.



Alan Lemly



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:30 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Pixel doesn’t have a sd card slot, but it is not the only android
device. Samsung and many other big cellphone brands creates phones with
sd cards.

Really the problem with apple is that they want to make money with
everything, and they want to handle what you place in your iPhone
memory. With the story abour copy rights they have done very difficult
for users manage music between iPhones, or also between iPhone and other
devices. Yes, we can use iTunes to transfer music to our iPhones, but
use this app is really difficult for standard users. More over in
android devices you can store there documents of all types, you can
create folders and subfolders in the same way how we do in our
computers. In iPhones the story is different. It is one of the reasons
why I bought an android device. Android and IOs have different politics
and different cultures. Apple’s culture is money, money and more money.
Android’s culture is share, share and share again. Apple wants to
control so much what we do in our devices. Android gives freedom to do
what ever you want, and more important, in a very easy way.





*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Apple Introduces Cheapest iPad Yet, Special Edition Red
iPhone - Bloomberg



Hi Victor,



I am not sure if Apple could keep their walled g

Re: Please, I need help with activating Iphone

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Hi Maria. In order to activate the iPhone you need a sim card. I don't know 
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> Please, is there a way how to activate Iphone without a sim card?
> I don't want to use it for phone calls, I have Iphone 6 for that.
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> With kind regards,
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Please, I need help with activating Iphone

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hello list,
I have Iphone 4 which stil has pretty decent battery, so I would like to use it 
as Ipod.
I don't have a sim card for activating the phone and I haven't found any other 
option to activate it.
I tried Itunes, but it keeps saying I need a valid Sim card.
Please, is there a way how to activate Iphone without a sim card?
I don't want to use it for phone calls, I have Iphone 6 for that.
Thank you very much for your help.
With kind regards,
Maria

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