Re: Maximum Apps Per Page

[Mike B.]

Hi Marie,

I think I know how to make folders, move apps, & such, but curiosity is what 
made me ask about the maximum amount of apps.  From what I've read, 
depending on the size of your screen, & other criteria, an iPhone can have 
as many as close to 50,000 apps!  And sure as hell, you know someone is 
going to try to max their iPhone out!  LOL  LOL
Take care.
Mike
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From: Marie
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: Maximum Apps Per Page


Mike did you know that with IOS 10, they made it very easy to move apps and 
to create folders? It used to be very complicated but now is a snap. If you 
have not done this, someone can give you the directions.
Marie


From: Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 3:38 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Maximum Apps Per Page

Hi All,

We are using the iPhone 6 SE's, with iOS 10.31.  Out of curiosity, is there 
a maximum number of Apps you can have per page?  From what I can tell it 
looks like it's around 20.  Thanks much for any & all input.
Take care.
Mike
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MapMyWalk tracking and treadmill

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

I use MapMyWalk for when I walking with my wife, but was curious to know if
it can also work while on the treadmill? I know it uses GPS when out and
about, but with the built in iPhone pedometer can it also record activity?
Distance by going off the steps for example? I like MapMyWalk because it
announces when I’ve walked a mile, speed, time splits,  etc. Am going to get
a manual treadmill since I don’t feel like paying a premium for all the
visual stuff I can’t use anyway and if possible, would like to keep using
the same app to log my walks.

Alternatively, is there a similar treadmill/walking app that will also
announce distance walked and time? I used to use iTreadmill back in the day,
but never really got the hang of it and it seems to not have been updated in
forever anyway.

Thanks,

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cox homelife app

[Walter Harper]

Hello All,
Has anyone use the cox homelike app to arm or disarm their security system?
Walter 

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RE: Increasing Battery Life

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That depends on who you talk to or whose article you read. I still think from 
time to time it's a good thing to clear out the app switcher, maybe if you do 
it half a dozen times a day it could be more of a negative effect, but to do it 
once a day or once every 2 or 3 days in my view has more positive than negative 
consequences. Turning on low power mode also really helps, it disables things 
like push email, background app refresh and it's a quick and dirty way to get 
better battery life without manually changing a bunch of settings.



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I've heard that removing apps from the app switcher actually hurts battery life 
rather than helps it.

On 4/29/17, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:
> hi,
> I find that some apps are real battery hogs and so, once used, I'll 
> best removed from the app switcher. for example, I was just using a 
> barcode reading app called NeoReader and found my battery had gone 
> right down really quickly to 10%! KNFB reader is another such battery 
> hog. also, if you're not using them, why not turn off some of your 
> connectivity, such as Bluetooth or Wi-Fi? it is so easy to turn back 
> on again! finally, I believe, if you have push notifications turned 
> on, this will drain your battery to. so, it all comes down to choice. What do 
> you want/need from your phone?
>
> Sandy
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 13:37, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
>>
>> What are the best ways to increase battery life while using 
>> voiceover, aside from turning background app refresh off and turning 
>> brightness down to 0?
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Re: Maximum Apps Per Page

[Marie]

Mike did you know that with IOS 10, they made it very easy to move apps and to 
create folders? It used to be very complicated but now is a snap. If you have 
not done this, someone can give you the directions.
Marie


From: Mike B. 
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 3:38 PM
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Subject: Maximum Apps Per Page

Hi All,

We are using the iPhone 6 SE's, with iOS 10.31.  Out of curiosity, is there a 
maximum number of Apps you can have per page?  From what I can tell it looks 
like it's around 20.  Thanks much for any & all input.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: Maximum Apps Per Page

[Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎]

Hi! I think you can put until 16 apps, depends in the size of your screen. I 
have a games folder in side i have 29 apps in  4 pages. 

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-30 באפר׳ 2017, בשעה 2:37, ‏‏Rick Justice ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> Hi Richard,
> Well I can say this much, if you put more than 9 apps in one folder, it will 
> create a second page in the folder.
> Haven't tried to find a total number per folder.
> HTH,
> Rick
> - Original Message - 
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> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 6:49 PM
> Subject: RE: Maximum Apps Per Page
> 
> 
> It is 20 icons, but you can create folders by moving an app on top of 
> another.
> IN the folders, you can have 9 apps per page.
> I’m not honestly sure how many pages per folder, but if you had 9 apps in 
> each folder that would be 180 apps.
> One source seems to say you can have 16 apps per folder, but I’m not sure 
> that is true.
> iPads have more apps available because of the larger screen.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Mike B.
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 3:38 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Maximum Apps Per Page
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> We are using the iPhone 6 SE's, with iOS 10.31.  Out of curiosity, is there 
> a maximum number of Apps you can have per page?  From what I can tell it 
> looks like it's around 20.  Thanks much for any & all input.
> Take care.
> Mike
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Re: Maximum Apps Per Page

[Rick Justice]

Hi Richard,
Well I can say this much, if you put more than 9 apps in one folder, it will 
create a second page in the folder.
Haven't tried to find a total number per folder.
HTH,
Rick
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From: "Richard Turner" 
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Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: Maximum Apps Per Page


It is 20 icons, but you can create folders by moving an app on top of 
another.
IN the folders, you can have 9 apps per page.
I’m not honestly sure how many pages per folder, but if you had 9 apps in 
each folder that would be 180 apps.
One source seems to say you can have 16 apps per folder, but I’m not sure 
that is true.
iPads have more apps available because of the larger screen.

Richard



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Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 3:38 PM
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Subject: Maximum Apps Per Page

Hi All,

We are using the iPhone 6 SE's, with iOS 10.31.  Out of curiosity, is there 
a maximum number of Apps you can have per page?  From what I can tell it 
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Take care.
Mike
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RE: Maximum Apps Per Page

[Richard Turner]

It is 20 icons, but you can create folders by moving an app on top of another.
IN the folders, you can have 9 apps per page.
I’m not honestly sure how many pages per folder, but if you had 9 apps in each 
folder that would be 180 apps.
One source seems to say you can have 16 apps per folder, but I’m not sure that 
is true.
iPads have more apps available because of the larger screen.

Richard



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Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 3:38 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Maximum Apps Per Page

Hi All,

We are using the iPhone 6 SE's, with iOS 10.31.  Out of curiosity, is there a 
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Take care.
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Maximum Apps Per Page

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

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RE: Grill Thermometer

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Check out the iGrill products at atguys.com.  We have the iGrill Mini, and it 
works well.



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Subject: Re: Grill Thermometer

You might check out the grill. You can get extra progbes and an Ambient probe 
and different things like that and the app is completely acceptable. Hope this 
helps


On Apr 29, 2017, at 1:10 PM, 
cmohney1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Steve,
You might check out atguys.com they have thermometers there.

Connie

Connie

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Steve Sweeney 
> wrote:

Hi,
Does anyone know of a good grill thermometer that works with an IOS app that we 
can use?
Thx -Steve

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Re: Siri doesn't seem to work when trying to create a reminder

[Lea W Langley]

Hi Chip and everyone else,
Thank you for the help. When I would say 945 to Siri she would always say 940. 
That is what I meant when I said she was not announcing the time correctly.
I ended up calling Apple and there was a process that I went through with them 
that took a couple of days. We finally got everything working, but it amounted 
to turning everything off such as reminders and things like that and then read 
resetting everything and turning everything back on. It wasn't Siri at all, it 
was the Reminders app itself that had to be re-registered with iCloud
If anyone is interested in the process I have it recorded, and I would be glad 
to share it. 

God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
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> Hi Wren,
> 
> This works quite well for me, and I use it several times every day.  I don't 
> think there's anything wrong with your phone's hardware, or with this feature 
> of IOS.
> 
> Could you type in the text of what you are saying to Siri?  For instance, I 
> will say:
> "remind me tomorrow at 9 a m to call Joe"
> I will then get a response from Siri that she will remind me.
> 
> 
> Secondly, I don't believe Siri will do anything with your Alarmed app, only 
> the built-in Reminders app.
> 
> Third, what do you mean when you say "the time isn't announced correctly"?
> 
> I think we can help with this, but it's probably best to address each problem 
> separately, and give as much in the way of specific information as you can.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lea W Langley
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> 
> Hi all,
> I need some help please. Siri doesn't seem to set reminders for me. I have an 
> iPhone SE, and I am running the latest update which is 10.3.1
> 
> For one thing, the time is not announced correctly. Another thing is she says 
> she creates the reminder, but then it is not saved into my Reminders app or 
> into my Alarmed app, which I normally use. If anyone has any suggestions I 
> would greatly appreciate them. Has anyone else experienced this?
> Thank you all very much for the help
> 
> God bless,
> Wren
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RE: Increasing Battery Life

[Mr. Ed]

How to check for battery draining and how to fix:

How I added four hours of battery life to my smartphone every day for free By 
Jennifer Jolly, Special for USA TODAY, April 9, 2017 

Phone constantly dying? Here's how to get back battery life

Columnist Jennifer Jolly describes how to check if emails and apps are draining 
your smartphone way too fast and what measures won't help. Jennifer Jolly for 
USA TODAY

I've had big-time battery drain issues on my last three iPhones. I just figured 
it was my fault - maybe I'm too addicted to apps, take too many photos, or just 
use my phone too much?

It's an issue I've gone to Apple for help with many times. But the Genius's
- Apple's retail support - were flummoxed, too. After the typical
troubleshooting: Update iOS? Check. Adjust screen brightness? Check. Use Wi-Fi 
when possible, turn off location services, and tone down notifications? Check, 
check, and check again. Nothing seems to solve the issues. Maybe I got the 
phone wet?

It was time to kick things up to the next level. I enlisted experts like Scotty 
Loveless, a former Apple Genius and iOS tech who told me this would not be 
another, "turn off every useful feature of iOS posts." because those "really 
grind my gears." Finally, someone speaking my language!

With that said, here's how I finally beat the worst of my battery battles - and 
now you can, too.

#1 Start with your own battery test

Your battery should only be doing its heavy lifting when you're actually using 
your iPhone, and the rest of the time it should be relaxing in standby mode. 
Sometimes an app prevents your phone from going into standby and wreaks havoc 
on your battery life.

Here's how to test it:

Go into Settings > Battery. Scroll all the way down to the bottom and you'll 
find two numbers, one for Standby and one for Usage. Your Usage number should 
be way, way lower than your Standby number. If it's not, you might have a 
problem, and you can confirm it by jotting down your Standby and Usage times 
and then clicking the lock button on your phone. Let it sit for about five 
minutes and then check the numbers again. If your Standby time is five minutes 
higher, you're in good shape, but if your Usage time has bumped up by a more 
than a minute it's a sign that your phone isn't resting like it should.

On Android, you can get the same information under Settings > Device > Battery 
(or Settings > Battery if you have a newer version of Android). The information 
on this menu is essentially the same as it is on an iPhone, and lists "Device 
Idle" which is the same as standby mode.

If you find that your phone isn't "resting" when you're not using it, there's 
likely a very clear reason, which brings us to #2.

#2 Don't push me

When an app is doing things even when you're not using it, it could be 
malfunctioning, and stuck in an endless loop that's draining all your power.
That's what happened to me, with, of all things, one of the email accounts I 
had connected to my phone. Loveless picked up on this right away. "This happens 
unbelievably often, especially with Exchange push email," he said.
"I knew when you told me your phone typically dies within six hours of being 
off the charger, and the Standby and Usage are the same. Sometimes, these times 
are not the same because the 'firmware is bad or corrupted,' but this time it's 
because push email is keeping the phone from sleeping properly."

The fix was simple.

Go into Settings > Mail > Accounts> Fetch New Data. Mine was automatically set 
to Push. Loveless recommended that I set it turn that off temporarily and set 
it to Fetch every 15 to 30 minutes instead. You can also use the Manual mode, 
which only scans for new messages when you actually open the email app.

You can also tweak the push settings to fetch new emails only every hour or so, 
which is also a big help. You don't sacrifice timely email updates either, 
though you'll still save the most power by disabling push emails altogether.

On an Android phone, you can manage the push notification settings for any apps 
that use it by heading into Settings > Apps and then picking an app and 
tweaking its individual settings.

#3 When background apps are the killer

There are other times too when an app is running when you're not using it and 
that's called "Background App Refresh." There are lots of reasons apps update 
in the background, like the Music app fetching new playlists, Facebook updating 
your social feeds, and even Pokemon Go keeping an eye on your steps so you can 
hatch eggs. It's all in the name of convenience, but it might also be leaving 
you with a dead battery halfway through the afternoon.

To check out which apps are eating up valuable power in the background go to 
Settings > Battery and you'll see a list of the apps taking up your battery 
life, with the topmost app being the biggest power hog. If you see an app 
listed with "Background Activity" below it, that's when you know it's using 
power 

Re: Grill Thermometer

[Kay Malmquist]

You might check out the grill. You can get extra progbes and an Ambient probe 
and different things like that and the app is completely acceptable. Hope this 
helps


On Apr 29, 2017, at 1:10 PM, cmohney1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Steve,
You might check out atguys.com they have thermometers there.

Connie 

Connie

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> Does anyone know of a good grill thermometer that works with an IOS app that 
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Re: Increasing Battery Life

[Arnold Schmidt]

A few thoughts: When an app is removed from the app switcher, it needs some 
battery power to reload its data the next time it is loaded. I agree that some 
apps drain power more than others, I generally leave them alone if I think I am 
going to use them within, say, an hour or so, or remove them if not. That goes 
for all apps if I know I probably won't use them for,  the rest of the day. 

Other things I do: I don't have mail checking for mail until I turn it on, when 
it is going to check again for mail. I have very few notifications turned on, 
although that is a personal decision, use them if you need them. 

Finally, even if you have brightness set to zero, leaving the screen unlocked 
drains battery. Although I have mine set not to lock,  I lock it if I don't 
need it to be unlocked, even if I am using a program where I can lock it and it 
not interfere with my using the program. I have set it to lock after a given 
amount of time, but prefer to lock it myself, except when I forget, come back 
in a couple hours, and find my battery is down by some double digit percentage. 
Oh well. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Apr 29, 2017, at 12:17 PM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

I have read this too, however, while it may be true of many apps, some apps are 
serious battery brain is even in the background. KNFB reader, the Neato app, 
Neo reader, to name but three! there are probably others too! I suppose the 
only thing to do is to try it and see if there's any difference…

good luck, Sandy

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> On 29 Apr 2017, at 13:53, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
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> I've heard that removing apps from the app switcher actually hurts
> battery life rather than helps it.
> 
>> On 4/29/17, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> hi,
>> I find that some apps are real battery hogs and so, once used, I'll best
>> removed from the app switcher. for example, I was just using a barcode
>> reading app called NeoReader and found my battery had gone right down really
>> quickly to 10%! KNFB reader is another such battery hog. also, if you're not
>> using them, why not turn off some of your connectivity, such as Bluetooth or
>> Wi-Fi? it is so easy to turn back on again! finally, I believe, if you have
>> push notifications turned on, this will drain your battery to. so, it all
>> comes down to choice. What do you want/need from your phone?
>> 
>> Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 13:37, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What are the best ways to increase battery life while using voiceover,
>>> aside from turning background app refresh off and turning brightness
>>> down to 0?
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Re: Grill Thermometer

[cmohney1961]

Hello Steve,
You might check out atguys.com they have thermometers there.

Connie 

Connie

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RE: thank you all and leaving after this message

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God Bless

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Hi all I want to thank each and every one of you for your private and onlist
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Grill Thermometer

[Steve Sweeney]

Hi,

Does anyone know of a good grill thermometer that works with an IOS app that
we can use?

Thx -Steve

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thank you all and leaving after this message

[zoe fiogkos]

Hi all I want to thank each and every one of you for your private and onlist
messages. Thank you to the mods and owners for not scolding me for the off
topic posts. However I have emposed and taken advantage of their kindness
and understanding so it's time for me to unsubscribe and I hope they will
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For anyone who wishes to keep in contact with me this is my email address,
so we don't clog up the list with my personal story.
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Re: Increasing Battery Life

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

I have read this too, however, while it may be true of many apps, some apps are 
serious battery brain is even in the background. KNFB reader, the Neato app, 
Neo reader, to name but three! there are probably others too! I suppose the 
only thing to do is to try it and see if there's any difference…

good luck, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 29 Apr 2017, at 13:53, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
> 
> I've heard that removing apps from the app switcher actually hurts
> battery life rather than helps it.
> 
>> On 4/29/17, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> hi,
>> I find that some apps are real battery hogs and so, once used, I'll best
>> removed from the app switcher. for example, I was just using a barcode
>> reading app called NeoReader and found my battery had gone right down really
>> quickly to 10%! KNFB reader is another such battery hog. also, if you're not
>> using them, why not turn off some of your connectivity, such as Bluetooth or
>> Wi-Fi? it is so easy to turn back on again! finally, I believe, if you have
>> push notifications turned on, this will drain your battery to. so, it all
>> comes down to choice. What do you want/need from your phone?
>> 
>> Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 13:37, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What are the best ways to increase battery life while using voiceover,
>>> aside from turning background app refresh off and turning brightness
>>> down to 0?
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Re: prayers and reason for unsubscribing soon

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi Zoe. 
No words can describe how truely sorry I am that you are going through this.
My prayers are with you.
If you feel able I would love to hear how your healing progresses. 
My email address is at the top of this message.
You are going to be in my prayers for sure. 
Jen


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> On Apr 28, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Portia Scott  wrote:
> 
> Hi Zoe,
> 
> I am so sorry you are going through all this suffering. I am praying
> for you with all that I have that you get better. If you want to email
> me off list for any reason, you can email me at:
> 
> portia.sc...@gmail.com
> 
> Really hoping you get well soon, and return to us safe, sound, and happy.
> 
> Never stop fighting, keep praying for healing someway, somehow. Where
> there's a will, there's a way.
> 
> Blessed be.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Portia.
> 
>> On 4/28/17, Penny Reeder  wrote:
>> What a horror story! I am so sorry and do hope you find the solution
>> you need. I am glad that your loving family is there for you, and I
>> wish you well.
>> Sincerely,
>> Penny
>> 
>>> On 4/28/17, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  dear Zoe, sorry to have mispronounced your name.
>>> I am here to pray for you, and believe that you will be cured in the
>>> name of God and of all who pray for you.
>>> Trust in God and in all the brothers who are praying for you and your
>>> family.
>>> God is merciful, and will cleanse you from this damn infestation.
>>> God bless you, dear sister.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Às 11:48 de 28/04/2017, Mário Gabriel escreveu:
 
 
 
 my God!
 My dear friend, I am now sitting here on my desk crying for you and
 the tears are running down my face.
 I have no more words to describe what I feel for you at this moment ...
 I'm going to pray for you right now and ask God to get you out of
 these damn bugs.
 God bless you, and your family.
 
 dear Zoi.
 Have courage and trust our prayers.
 
 
 Às 20:35 de 27/04/2017, zoe fiogkos escreveu:
> Hi my fellow elf's and Mrs. Clause. Hope you are all doing ok.
> Unfortunately
> I have no choice, I have to unsubscribe from all the email groups I
> belong
> to. I haven't been able to check email and be online for a long time
> and it
> seems I will be out of things for much longer. When I turned on my
> laptop
> this morning I had over fifteen thousand emails waiting for me. Given
> my
> situation I just can't keep up anymore. I pray that one day I recover
> and
> are able to join my favourite groups again.  My family is against me
> telling
> people what's wrong but I feel in writing this email I'm also helping
> myself
> to come to grips with my illness. I will remain subscribed a few more
> days
> so that I may read your thoughts in hopes that your words might help
> me to
> continue to fight this awful illness.
> Again I'm sorry for the off topic post and I hope the moderators can
> find it
> in their hearts to forgive me, and if one day I recover I hope they
> will
> remember me and let me back in to my favourite mailing groups.
> Before I tell you all my story, I would like to thank each and every
> one of
> you for either your help on various topics, or your individual
> private help
> through the phone or private email, or your messages of getting to
> know me,
> or your words of encouragement when it came to the mac, jaws, NVDA,
> windows
> 10, household tips, cooking instructions, prayers, and harmless chit
> chat.
> If I offended anyone in anyway, or gave anyone a hard time please
> forgive
> me.
> Here's my unbelievable story.
> Last August I was doing a lot of gardening mostly weeding to be
> honest. I
> was on my hands and knees from morning to night pulling weeds and
> keeping my
> property clean. I am grateful to the good Lord for blessing me to
> have such
> a lovely property but it's old and no one ever took care of the
> garden. The
> result is weeds on top of my weeds. Chemicals are forbidden here in
> Canada,
> and I haven't been able to find an affordable solution, so I'm left
> with
> fighting weeds on a daily bases. I am a sun lover and adore summer,
> last
> summer was the first time in my life that I couldn't wait for summer
> to be
> over. I was exhausted and I have nothing to remember for my 2016 summer
> except pulling weeds all most every day for the whole entire spring,
> summer,
> and fall.
> In August I noticed 2 mosquito bites on my elbow and 2 on my inner left
> thigh. The bites were very itchy just like normal mosquito bites, so I
> didn't think anything of it. I also noticed my nails were black
> underneath.
> I thought it was dirt from the garden, to spite that I was showering

Re: This just ain't my morning!

[Jenifer Barr]

Thank you so much Donna! 
I appreciate the info.
Jen


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Jen
> 
> The subscription for Aipoly is to sign up for a monthly subscription to 
> Aipoly which unlocks all the features of the app. The monthly cost is $4.99.  
> Talking to others who have the app & pay for a monthly subscription, the apps 
> function is better if the monthly subscription is gotten. Without the monthly 
> subscription the app isn't as accurate. To sign up for the 1 week trial, tap 
> on subscription. This is just below the heading Settings & Subscription. It 
> isn't labeled as a button so it is a bit misleading. I find Camfind & TapTap 
> See identifies items more accurately when compared to the Free use of Aipoly. 
> 
> Donna
>> 
>> Hi Dave.
>> This doesn't seem to work for me.  Thanks though for trying.
>> Jen
>> 
>>> On 4/29/17, Dave  wrote:
>>> Hi Jen,
>>> 
>>> it is possible to sign and create an account with BeSpecular.
>>> 
>>> as i have been signed in, for quite a while now, i can't quite remember the
>>> 
>>> exact method.
>>> 
>>> But with the picker items, i think you just double tap, and swipe up and
>>> down.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 11:52 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: This just ain't my morning!
>>> 
>>> Jen,
>>> I don't know the answer to the subscription issue, but I would love to know
>>> 
>>> if you find a Aipoly Vision of any use. I have tried it and find it worse
>>> than useless, positively, misleading! but that might just be me?
>>> Good luck, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
 On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:32, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
 
 How the heck do you create a subscription with appoli vision? Yep,
 spelling it wrong but these apps that are supposed to help us are really
 annoying me! lol.
 I double tapped on settings, vo says subscription and settings. There is
 nothing to double tap on to create a subspription.
 Help? Please?
 Jen
 
 
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

[Paul Ferrara]

Jen, remember Be My Eyes finds people all over the world; if it's too early, 
they won't be available. My point--go ahead and try it; someone should be 
awake.


Thanks.

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Jenifer Barr

Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

Hi Judy. There is no done button... it's not a picker like normal ones we 
see.
Sandy... I have used be my eyes but it was really early and I didn't want to 
bother anyone. lol. I may have to do that though a little later.

Thank you both for your responses.
Jen


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 29, 2017, at 7:00 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:

I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker 
when you have selected what you want.

Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

Hi all.
First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol!

I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age 
or language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do 
so if it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just 
quite annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me.
Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even 
leave feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! 
lol. Go figure!

Thanks for listening.
Jen
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
Thank you for all of the great responses. 
Now I have choices... which I will take advantage of! (smile) 
Jen


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> On Apr 29, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
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>   Hi, I use Bespecuclar almost everyday.  I forgot how I signed up but, if 
> you can get past that.maybe getting some sighted assist, you will be 
> happy with the rest.  For the past 8 months, the average response time is 
> less than a minute.  I usually get about 3 responses and they are all quite 
> good people.  So, what I am saying here that if you need to have someone help 
> sign up, the rest is happy days.  Andy and Shubert
> p.s. I love Bespecular so much and believe in it so much that I am doing a 
> show on our local Access TV with the Lions Club at the end of May.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Judy Pryor
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!
> 
> I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
> need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker when 
> you have selected what you want.
> Judy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol!
>> 
>> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
>> the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
>> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
>> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
>> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me.
>> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
>> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
>> figure!
>> Thanks for listening.
>> Jen
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

   Hi, I use Bespecuclar almost everyday.  I forgot how I signed up but, if 
you can get past that.maybe getting some sighted assist, you will be 
happy with the rest.  For the past 8 months, the average response time is 
less than a minute.  I usually get about 3 responses and they are all quite 
good people.  So, what I am saying here that if you need to have someone 
help sign up, the rest is happy days.  Andy and Shubert
p.s. I love Bespecular so much and believe in it so much that I am doing a 
show on our local Access TV with the Lions Club at the end of May.


-Original Message- 
From: Judy Pryor

Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker 
when you have selected what you want.

Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

Hi all.
First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol!

I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so 
if it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just 
quite annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me.
Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
figure!

Thanks for listening.
Jen
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Re: This just ain't my morning!

[Donna]

Jen

The subscription for Aipoly is to sign up for a monthly subscription to Aipoly 
which unlocks all the features of the app. The monthly cost is $4.99.  Talking 
to others who have the app & pay for a monthly subscription, the apps function 
is better if the monthly subscription is gotten. Without the monthly 
subscription the app isn't as accurate. To sign up for the 1 week trial, tap on 
subscription. This is just below the heading Settings & Subscription. It isn't 
labeled as a button so it is a bit misleading. I find Camfind & TapTap See 
identifies items more accurately when compared to the Free use of Aipoly. 

Donna
> 
> Hi Dave.
> This doesn't seem to work for me.  Thanks though for trying.
> Jen
> 
>> On 4/29/17, Dave  wrote:
>> Hi Jen,
>> 
>> it is possible to sign and create an account with BeSpecular.
>> 
>> as i have been signed in, for quite a while now, i can't quite remember the
>> 
>> exact method.
>> 
>> But with the picker items, i think you just double tap, and swipe up and
>> down.
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 11:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: This just ain't my morning!
>> 
>> Jen,
>> I don't know the answer to the subscription issue, but I would love to know
>> 
>> if you find a Aipoly Vision of any use. I have tried it and find it worse
>> than useless, positively, misleading! but that might just be me?
>> Good luck, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:32, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How the heck do you create a subscription with appoli vision? Yep,
>>> spelling it wrong but these apps that are supposed to help us are really
>>> annoying me! lol.
>>> I double tapped on settings, vo says subscription and settings. There is
>>> nothing to double tap on to create a subspription.
>>> Help? Please?
>>> Jen
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: This just ain't my morning!

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
Well don't I feel dumb? I forgot I had signed up before for this app... but I 
had. I'm sorry for my rant. 
It now works.
Thanks.
Jen


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2017, at 8:58 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jen,
> 
> it is possible to sign and create an account with BeSpecular.
> 
> as i have been signed in, for quite a while now, i can't quite remember the 
> exact method.
> 
> But with the picker items, i think you just double tap, and swipe up and down.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Dave.
> 
> -Original Message- From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 11:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This just ain't my morning!
> 
> Jen,
> I don't know the answer to the subscription issue, but I would love to know 
> if you find a Aipoly Vision of any use. I have tried it and find it worse 
> than useless, positively, misleading! but that might just be me?
> Good luck, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:32, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> How the heck do you create a subscription with appoli vision? Yep, spelling 
>> it wrong but these apps that are supposed to help us are really annoying me! 
>> lol.
>> I double tapped on settings, vo says subscription and settings. There is 
>> nothing to double tap on to create a subspription.
>> Help? Please?
>> Jen
>> 
>> 
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Re: This just ain't my morning!

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi Dave.
This doesn't seem to work for me.  Thanks though for trying.
Jen

On 4/29/17, Dave  wrote:
> Hi Jen,
>
> it is possible to sign and create an account with BeSpecular.
>
> as i have been signed in, for quite a while now, i can't quite remember the
>
> exact method.
>
> But with the picker items, i think you just double tap, and swipe up and
> down.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Dave.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 11:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This just ain't my morning!
>
> Jen,
> I don't know the answer to the subscription issue, but I would love to know
>
> if you find a Aipoly Vision of any use. I have tried it and find it worse
> than useless, positively, misleading! but that might just be me?
> Good luck, Sandy
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:32, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>
>> How the heck do you create a subscription with appoli vision? Yep,
>> spelling it wrong but these apps that are supposed to help us are really
>> annoying me! lol.
>> I double tapped on settings, vo says subscription and settings. There is
>> nothing to double tap on to create a subspription.
>> Help? Please?
>> Jen
>>
>>
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Re: This just ain't my morning!

[Dave]

Hi Jen,

it is possible to sign and create an account with BeSpecular.

as i have been signed in, for quite a while now, i can't quite remember the 
exact method.


But with the picker items, i think you just double tap, and swipe up and 
down.


Good luck,

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone

Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This just ain't my morning!

Jen,
I don't know the answer to the subscription issue, but I would love to know 
if you find a Aipoly Vision of any use. I have tried it and find it worse 
than useless, positively, misleading! but that might just be me?

Good luck, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:32, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

How the heck do you create a subscription with appoli vision? Yep, 
spelling it wrong but these apps that are supposed to help us are really 
annoying me! lol.
I double tapped on settings, vo says subscription and settings. There is 
nothing to double tap on to create a subspription.

Help? Please?
Jen


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Increasing Battery Life

[Kelby Carlson]

I've heard that removing apps from the app switcher actually hurts
battery life rather than helps it.

On 4/29/17, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:
> hi,
> I find that some apps are real battery hogs and so, once used, I'll best
> removed from the app switcher. for example, I was just using a barcode
> reading app called NeoReader and found my battery had gone right down really
> quickly to 10%! KNFB reader is another such battery hog. also, if you're not
> using them, why not turn off some of your connectivity, such as Bluetooth or
> Wi-Fi? it is so easy to turn back on again! finally, I believe, if you have
> push notifications turned on, this will drain your battery to. so, it all
> comes down to choice. What do you want/need from your phone?
>
> Sandy
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 13:37, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
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>> What are the best ways to increase battery life while using voiceover,
>> aside from turning background app refresh off and turning brightness
>> down to 0?
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Re: Increasing Battery Life

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
I find that some apps are real battery hogs and so, once used, I'll best 
removed from the app switcher. for example, I was just using a barcode reading 
app called NeoReader and found my battery had gone right down really quickly to 
10%! KNFB reader is another such battery hog. also, if you're not using them, 
why not turn off some of your connectivity, such as Bluetooth or Wi-Fi? it is 
so easy to turn back on again! finally, I believe, if you have push 
notifications turned on, this will drain your battery to. so, it all comes down 
to choice. What do you want/need from your phone?

Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 29 Apr 2017, at 13:37, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
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> aside from turning background app refresh off and turning brightness
> down to 0?
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Increasing Battery Life

[Kelby Carlson]

What are the best ways to increase battery life while using voiceover,
aside from turning background app refresh off and turning brightness
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RE: quite annoyed with be specular!

[Mike Ulrich]

I agree; Be My Eyes, totally rocks. I do also have Bespecular too. This app has 
worked for me great, but I also feel Be My Eyes is better because you end up 
with a continuing running  active conversation with the volunteer. So no more 
retaking of the picture, rerecording of your question, and then resubmitting 
it, only to have to wait for another answer if you have to move the camera for 
the volunteer to see the product better.

I eventually might have to delete my Bespecular app, but I'll keep it for a 
while in order to use both, and see what's the best one. I gotta feeling By My 
Eyes is gonna win the shootout!

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From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

Jen,
Don't worry about bothering people! recently many of us received emails from Be 
My Eyes saying "please use it!" They have too many volunteers who have never 
actually received a request for assistance. in order to keep it alive, they 
really want us to use it! Plus, the volunteers can choose not to answer… I have 
only used it a few times, but every time the person was absolutely delighted to 
receive a call. Plus, it is diverted around the globe, so, no matter what time 
you use the app, you won't be waking someone up!

go for it! Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 29 Apr 2017, at 12:04, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Judy. There is no done button... it's not a picker like normal ones we 
> see. 
> Sandy... I have used be my eyes but it was really early and I didn't want to 
> bother anyone. lol. I may have to do that though a little later. 
> Thank you both for your responses. 
> Jen
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2017, at 7:00 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
>> need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker 
>> when you have selected what you want. 
>> Judy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
>>> the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
>>> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
>>> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
>>> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
>>> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
>>> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
>>> figure!
>>> Thanks for listening. 
>>> Jen
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

[Judy Pryor]

You could try emailing them. At cont...@bespecular.com
I wish I could remember how I did it.
Judy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Apr 2017, at 12:04, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Judy. There is no done button... it's not a picker like normal ones we 
> see. 
> Sandy... I have used be my eyes but it was really early and I didn't want to 
> bother anyone. lol. I may have to do that though a little later. 
> Thank you both for your responses. 
> Jen
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2017, at 7:00 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
>> need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker 
>> when you have selected what you want. 
>> Judy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
>>> the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
>>> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
>>> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
>>> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
>>> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
>>> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
>>> figure!
>>> Thanks for listening. 
>>> Jen
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Jen,
Don't worry about bothering people! recently many of us received emails from Be 
My Eyes saying "please use it!" They have too many volunteers who have never 
actually received a request for assistance. in order to keep it alive, they 
really want us to use it! Plus, the volunteers can choose not to answer… I have 
only used it a few times, but every time the person was absolutely delighted to 
receive a call. Plus, it is diverted around the globe, so, no matter what time 
you use the app, you won't be waking someone up!

go for it! Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 29 Apr 2017, at 12:04, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Judy. There is no done button... it's not a picker like normal ones we 
> see. 
> Sandy... I have used be my eyes but it was really early and I didn't want to 
> bother anyone. lol. I may have to do that though a little later. 
> Thank you both for your responses. 
> Jen
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2017, at 7:00 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
>> need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker 
>> when you have selected what you want. 
>> Judy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
>>> the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
>>> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
>>> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
>>> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
>>> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
>>> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
>>> figure!
>>> Thanks for listening. 
>>> Jen
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: This just ain't my morning!

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi Sandy. 
Yes, I will do that for sure.
Thanks for letting me know about the uselessness of this app. lol. 
Jen


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> On Apr 29, 2017, at 6:52 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
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> Jen,
> I don't know the answer to the subscription issue, but I would love to know 
> if you find a Aipoly Vision of any use. I have tried it and find it worse 
> than useless, positively, misleading! but that might just be me?
> Good luck, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:32, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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>> How the heck do you create a subscription with appoli vision? Yep, spelling 
>> it wrong but these apps that are supposed to help us are really annoying me! 
>> lol. 
>> I double tapped on settings, vo says subscription and settings. There is 
>> nothing to double tap on to create a subspription. 
>> Help? Please? 
>> Jen
>> 
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi Judy. There is no done button... it's not a picker like normal ones we see. 
Sandy... I have used be my eyes but it was really early and I didn't want to 
bother anyone. lol. I may have to do that though a little later. 
Thank you both for your responses. 
Jen


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2017, at 7:00 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
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> I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
> need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker when 
> you have selected what you want. 
> Judy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 
>> 
>> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
>> the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
>> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
>> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
>> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
>> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
>> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
>> figure!
>> Thanks for listening. 
>> Jen
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

[Judy Pryor]

I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you need 
to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker when you 
have selected what you want. 
Judy

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> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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> Hi all.
> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 
> 
> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for the 
> visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
> figure!
> Thanks for listening. 
> Jen
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Jen,
It's Sandy again! I find be my eyes is the most useful of  all these  sighted 
assistance apps. you don't have to get a perfect shot for the help to be 
helpful. because the app uses the back facing camera in video mode, your 
assistant can just say "move it to the left" et cetera and then can read the 
screen for you. have you tried it?t
Good luck, Sandy

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> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 
> 
> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for the 
> visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
> figure!
> Thanks for listening. 
> Jen
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Re: This just ain't my morning!

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Jen,
I don't know the answer to the subscription issue, but I would love to know if 
you find a Aipoly Vision of any use. I have tried it and find it worse than 
useless, positively, misleading! but that might just be me?
Good luck, Sandy

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> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:32, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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> How the heck do you create a subscription with appoli vision? Yep, spelling 
> it wrong but these apps that are supposed to help us are really annoying me! 
> lol. 
> I double tapped on settings, vo says subscription and settings. There is 
> nothing to double tap on to create a subspription. 
> Help? Please? 
> Jen
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quite annoyed with bespecular!

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 

I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for the 
visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or language 
pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if it doesn't 
work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite annoyed because I 
need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
figure!
Thanks for listening. 
Jen
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This just ain't my morning!

[Jenifer Barr]

How the heck do you create a subscription with appoli vision? Yep, spelling it 
wrong but these apps that are supposed to help us are really annoying me! lol. 
I double tapped on settings, vo says subscription and settings. There is 
nothing to double tap on to create a subspription. 
Help? Please? 
Jen


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Garashband for Mac, its accessible for us/

[afik Suffir]

Hi, 

I want to know two things 

First, its grashband accessible to blind people on the Mac? 
Second, are there any audio software accessible to the Mac? 

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