Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug

[Devin Prater]

I do think Apple needs to think this one over a little more. I think that
it could be a good feature *if* the current action is spoken a little
sooner than at the very end of the utterance. Either that, or make it to
where one can swipe up to the action they want, double tap with two
fingers, bringing the mode to "fast edit" or "quick edit," keeping in
tradition with quick nav. Now, the user could double tap they mail away,
then double tap with two fingers to bring the setting back to "activate."
This would also need some retraining of the mind, if one wished to use it,
but it would be cleaner than us not trusting our tools.

On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:15 AM Maria Reyes 
wrote:

> nope I use the outlook app on my iPod Touch. I always check where my rotor
> is. as for giving feedback if Apple didn't want feedback on how to improve
> their products I don't think the public beta program would exist.
>
>
> Maria Reyes
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> On Oct 1, 2017, at 12:30 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thank you Mary I could not have said this better than you did.  And were
> it consistent across the entirety of the os’s landscape that’d be one thing
> but it is not. as another poster pointed out this used to be behavior in
> app switcher and now is the reverse there which for me just adds to the
> confusion and strikes at the heart of the assertion it’s in the name of
> efficiency. It doesn’t seem intuitive or efficient to me as a user and I’ve
> told them so politely concisely and firmly.
> I don’t think anyone as another poster asserted is saying that Apple isn’t
> allowed to change their OS in the name of productivity or anything else
> rather that we since Apple has willingly taken our money for their products
> and services we as a result have the opportunity to make our voices heard
> in a respectful and informative manner. At least that’s how I always
> approach these things.
> Robin
> Robin
>
>
> *From:* Mary Otten
> *Sent:* Friday, September 29, 2017 5:38 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Please join me in asking Apple to make rotor options
> consistent again and to fix the delete rotor bug which they say is not a bug
>
> It could theoretically be a great change for productivity if it were 100%
> consistent. It isn't. It's a disaster. It makes you keep checking and
> rechecking which makes the use of the mail app quite less efficient than it
> used to be. The word default ought  to mean something.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 29, 2017, at 2:19 PM, Aleeha Dudley 
> wrote:
>
> Guys,
> Personally, I think this is a great addition to productivity. Yes, it’s a
> change that we must get used to, but I think it would make the power users
> of mail very happy. Now, they do need to solve some consistency issues, but
> I personally like it. It behaves as the app switcher did in iOS 10. Also,
> regarding the comment about restoring a deleted item, shake your phone, and
> you will, magically, have an “undo Trash” dialog box. If Apple isn’t
> allowed to change its OS, why should they pay attention to us at all? When
> we whine and complain about a change that could significantly improve
> productivity, why should Apple make its operating system more accessible
> and better for us?
>
>
> On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Hello List,
>
> There has been a fair bit of discussion on a change Apple has implemented
> in the Mail app whenit comes to using the rotor to delete messages. In the
> past and ever since Apple has introduced rotor actions, a marvellous
> invention, the behaviour of the rotor has been quite consistent.
> Usually you check your Inbox, some messages you don’t even open before you
> want to delete them, others you might read and want to delete afterwards,
> no matter what, you would normally flick up once when ona message in the
> Inbox, this would put focus on the “Delete” option and now you simply
> double tap and the message is deleted.
> This is the same in the Messages app, it works if you want to delete a
> Favourite in your Phone app, a recent call and you can use it in many other
> places.
> After the message or whatever you are deleting has been deleted, for years
> the normal behaviour was that “Activate” has focus again. This of course
> makes sense because if you flick through the available options, “Activate”
> also tells you that it is the default option so of course you would expect
> that whatever you do focus returns to it so after you delete a message and
> if you now want to read the next message all you have to do is double tap
> and it opens up.
> Now in IOS 11 Apple has decided that in the Mail app only the rotor should
> behave differently. Mind you if you go to your Inbox and flick through the
> available rotor options, when you get back to activate it still says
> “Activate, default”
> However, if you flick up to delete

No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

[Dave Bahr]

Hi, maybe this has been covered before, but I can’t get a search box to
appear when I ask for spotlight search. All it gives me are siri app
suggestions. And when I turn those off, in search, and in lookup, it just
says, no items found, and I have no search box to type something in. Anyone
lese have this? It’s a royal pain as I use the spotlight a ton.

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Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Lois Butterfield]

Hi Candy,

I have a splitter that enables you to plug in two lightning plugs into the 
phone at the same time.  If you are using the earphones that came with your 
phone with the lightning plug, it would work fine for you.


Write me off list if you want more information on it.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message- 
From: Candy Lowe

Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hello everyone
Could someone please give me a suggestion for the best adapter to allow me 
to listen to music with earpods and also charge my phone at the same time. 
I am using an iPHONE 8.  Thanks in advance.

Candy  ,

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Re: Does any one use the USS Bank app?

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
It is mostly accessible. The only issue I run into is when I am trying to pay 
my credit card. The edit field for the amount does not read right so it can be 
a bit tricky to do.

Regards,
Greg Wocher


> On Sep 30, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
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> Hi,
>  
> I might be opening a US Bank account. Does anyone know how accessible and 
> usable the US Bank app is?
>  
> Thanks in advance, Keith
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Just Press Record Query.

[Jim Noseworthy]

Hi Folks:

 

Does anyone have any experience with the latest updated "Just Press Record"
app?  If so, how so?

 

Thanks all over the place.

 

 

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Re: How to Stop iOS from Prompting for an Update on your iOS Device

[Alan Lemly]

Mark, 

Thanks for this info. I had the exact same thing happen to me last night and I 
also selected disagree on the terms dialog which seemed the logical thing to do 
to stop an unsolicited install. I'm still puzzling over why the thing 
progressed as far as it did without any prompting on my part. I'm intelligent 
enough to know when I want to upgrade my iOS. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2017, at 12:38 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> A week or so ago, some people were asking how to stop iOS from prompting for
> the latest update.  I do not remember to which forum the question was
> posted; nor do I remember if an answer was ever given.
> 
> However, based only on my own recent experience with two of my iOS devices,
> it seems as though I have stumbled upon the answer.
> 
> Here is one of my recent scenarios:
> 
> 1.
> A dialog box popped up on my iOS 10.3.3 home screen informing me that iOS
> 11.01 was ready to be installed.  At this, I believe I had three options,
> Install Now, Later, or See More Details.  
> 
> 2.
> I selected Later.  To my surprised, I was prompted to enter my Touch ID
> password.  
> 
> 3.
> I entered my password.  Then, I received a dialog box informing me that in
> order to proceed, I would have to agree to Apple's terms of service
> agreement.  I had two buttons from which to select; "DISAGREE" and "AGREE".
> 
> 4.
> When given this choice I simply chose, now get ready for this, the
> "DISAGREE" button.
> 
> That's it.
> 
> After doing so, not only am I no longer being prompted to update my device
> to the latest release but, even better, the badge app number is no longer
> being displayed on the Settings icon.
> 
> I am certain that when yet a newer update is once again downloaded to my
> device,  I will receive another update prompt.  Assuming I do not wish to
> install it, I only need to select the "DISAGREE" button in order to
> discontinue the update prompt.
> 
> Give it a try.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Apple Watch data

[denise Avant]

Hello all,

I am passing my Apple watch to someone else. Is it enough to disconnect the
watch from my phone or is there a reset function to clear out any of my
data? Thanks.

 

 

 

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Re: How to Stop iOS from Prompting for an Update on your iOS Device

[Paul Richard McGann]

yes, cdorrect. you can choose later whenever yo want.

my hearing-sighted friends haven't upgraded their iphones 6 as they still 
stick with ios 8. they won't do anything about it as the were not hapy about 
the voices from iphone. they told me that they were happy with ios 7, but 
after ios 8, they were not happy about the sound and they refuse. that is 
all.


sincerely,
rich


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to Stop iOS from Prompting for an Update on your iOS Device

Hello Everyone,

A week or so ago, some people were asking how to stop iOS from prompting for
the latest update.  I do not remember to which forum the question was
posted; nor do I remember if an answer was ever given.

However, based only on my own recent experience with two of my iOS devices,
it seems as though I have stumbled upon the answer.

Here is one of my recent scenarios:

1.
A dialog box popped up on my iOS 10.3.3 home screen informing me that iOS
11.01 was ready to be installed.  At this, I believe I had three options,
Install Now, Later, or See More Details.

2.
I selected Later.  To my surprised, I was prompted to enter my Touch ID
password.

3.
I entered my password.  Then, I received a dialog box informing me that in
order to proceed, I would have to agree to Apple's terms of service
agreement.  I had two buttons from which to select; "DISAGREE" and "AGREE".

4.
When given this choice I simply chose, now get ready for this, the
"DISAGREE" button.

That's it.

After doing so, not only am I no longer being prompted to update my device
to the latest release but, even better, the badge app number is no longer
being displayed on the Settings icon.

I am certain that when yet a newer update is once again downloaded to my
device,  I will receive another update prompt.  Assuming I do not wish to
install it, I only need to select the "DISAGREE" button in order to
discontinue the update prompt.

Give it a try.

Mark


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Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

[Richard Turner]

I've never tried using Siri to ask for a spotlight search. A three finger swipe 
down in the middle of the screen works every time.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Dave Bahr 
mailto:dcba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, maybe this has been covered before, but I can’t get a search box to appear 
when I ask for spotlight search. All it gives me are siri app suggestions. And 
when I turn those off, in search, and in lookup, it just says, no items found, 
and I have no search box to type something in. Anyone lese have this? It’s a 
royal pain as I use the spotlight a ton.

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how to stop notifications when getting in to a car

[Kay Malmquist]

Hi all,
Can someone please tell me the steps for turning off the do not disturb 
notifications when getting in and out of a car in ios 11?
I know someone posted this and I thought I kept it.  I did a search for it 
and can not find it.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks much.

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Re: Apple Watch data

[Chris Chaffin]

First unpair your watch from your phone.  Then go to Settings on your watch and 
reset your watch.
To get to reset on your watch, go to settings, general, and reset.

Hope this helps.

Chris


> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:29 AM, denise Avant  wrote:
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> Hello all,
> I am passing my Apple watch to someone else. Is it enough to disconnect the 
> watch from my phone or is there a reset function to clear out any of my data? 
> Thanks.
>  
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Purchasing an air ticket from skyscanner.ca?

[fzlmahmood30]

Hi, list.

I am trying to purchase an air ticket from skyscanner.ca but I am having 
difficulty in selecting a date. How can I pick up the departure and return 
dates please?
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Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

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I think the spotlight search is reached by three finger swipe from left to 
right to reach page 1 of all screens. At the very top is a Search field, which 
seems to be what you want? 
Harry

> On 1 Oct 2017, at 13:54, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I've never tried using Siri to ask for a spotlight search. A three finger 
> swipe down in the middle of the screen works every time.
> Richard
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> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
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>> Hi, maybe this has been covered before, but I can’t get a search box to 
>> appear when I ask for spotlight search. All it gives me are siri app 
>> suggestions. And when I turn those off, in search, and in lookup, it just 
>> says, no items found, and I have no search box to type something in. Anyone 
>> lese have this? It’s a royal pain as I use the spotlight a ton.  
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RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hey Lois,

I am just curious as to whether the splitter you have is the Belkin one or a 
different brand. Also, does it allow only for a Lightning headset to be 
connected along with a Lightning cable to charge the phone or can you plug in 
two Lightning headsets? I am curious because there are times when this could be 
a nice feature, for example, if I were on a flight with my wife and we both 
wanted to listen to the same book.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 2:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hi Candy,

I have a splitter that enables you to plug in two lightning plugs into the 
phone at the same time.  If you are using the earphones that came with your 
phone with the lightning plug, it would work fine for you.

Write me off list if you want more information on it.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Candy Lowe
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hello everyone
Could someone please give me a suggestion for the best adapter to allow me to 
listen to music with earpods and also charge my phone at the same time. 
I am using an iPHONE 8.  Thanks in advance.
Candy  ,

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RE: how to stop notifications when getting in to a car

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Settings > Do Not Disturb > Do Not Disturb While Driving
Set this to “Manual”, if it is already on manual change it to automatic and 
then back to manual, somebody said that at first when it was on manual it still 
happened and this is how it was for me, but apparently changing it to automatic 
and back is supposed to fix it. I don’t think I drove since I did this or maybe 
I did and since I didn’t notice it any more it did work.

Regards,
Sieghard


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: how to stop notifications when getting in to a car

Hi all,
Can someone please tell me the steps for turning off the do not disturb 
notifications when getting in and out of a car in ios 11?
I know someone posted this and I thought I kept it.  I did a search for it and 
can not find it.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
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RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Harry,

Doing a 3-finger swipe to the right when on the main home screen gives you the 
Today screen. To get to spotlight search you touch any app or folder on any of 
your home screens and do a 3-finger swipe down.
Somebody else needs to check this for David, I have already moved on to the iOS 
11.1 Public Beta and can’t confirm David’s finding. I guess this tells you 
something *smile*. In fact, I can recommend the iOS 11.1 public beta to anybody 
who is half way tech savvy and knows how to install it, I have for the most 
part only found it to contain improvements when it comes to Voiceover. I won’t 
explain how you get it since I don’t want anybody to yell at me because they 
installed it and ran into problems.
It is not difficult and the information on how to do it is easily found if you 
Google “How to install iOS public beta”. I assume if you can’t find the 
instructions on Google you definitely should not attempt to install it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Harry Bell
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

I think the spotlight search is reached by three finger swipe from left to 
right to reach page 1 of all screens. At the very top is a Search field, which 
seems to be what you want?
Harry

On 1 Oct 2017, at 13:54, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I've never tried using Siri to ask for a spotlight search. A three finger swipe 
down in the middle of the screen works every time.
Richard




(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Dave Bahr 
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when I turn those off, in search, and in lookup, it just says, no items found, 
and I have no search box to type something in. Anyone lese have this? It’s a 
royal pain as I use the spotlight a ton.
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Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Alan Lemly]

Candy, 

I'd recommend the Belkin Rockstar lightning adapter and also recommend you get 
it from the Apple online store which has free shipping. It is $40 as Sieghard 
has said and it gives full functionality of the remote and other buttons on the 
earpods. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone 
> Could someone please give me a suggestion for the best adapter to allow me to 
> listen to music with earpods and also charge my phone at the same time.  I am 
> using an iPHONE 8.  Thanks in advance.  
> Candy  ,
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

[Dave Bahr]

Hmmm, guess I should have explained this better. The search field shows up 
occasionally. However, when I wrote the message I did, when I would do the 
3-finger swipe down, all voiceover would say is, siri app suggestions, heading. 
No matter which way I tried to move and scroll pages, I could not get that 
search box to show up. Unfortunately, sometimes that search box shows up, 
sometimes it doesn’t. I can’t replicate the issue each time. But when it does 
happen, i’m stuck with just apps that I’ve used recently, and I can’t search 
for anything else. This even happened after a reboot.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:18:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

Hi Harry,

Doing a 3-finger swipe to the right when on the main home screen gives you the 
Today screen. To get to spotlight search you touch any app or folder on any of 
your home screens and do a 3-finger swipe down.
Somebody else needs to check this for David, I have already moved on to the iOS 
11.1 Public Beta and can’t confirm David’s finding. I guess this tells you 
something *smile*. In fact, I can recommend the iOS 11.1 public beta to anybody 
who is half way tech savvy and knows how to install it, I have for the most 
part only found it to contain improvements when it comes to Voiceover. I won’t 
explain how you get it since I don’t want anybody to yell at me because they 
installed it and ran into problems.
It is not difficult and the information on how to do it is easily found if you 
Google “How to install iOS public beta”. I assume if you can’t find the 
instructions on Google you definitely should not attempt to install it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Harry Bell
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

I think the spotlight search is reached by three finger swipe from left to 
right to reach page 1 of all screens. At the very top is a Search field, which 
seems to be what you want?
Harry

On 1 Oct 2017, at 13:54, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I've never tried using Siri to ask for a spotlight search. A three finger swipe 
down in the middle of the screen works every time.
Richard




(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Dave Bahr 
mailto:dcba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe this has been covered before, but I can’t get a search box to appear 
when I ask for spotlight search. All it gives me are siri app suggestions. And 
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RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Alan, can you use it to plug in two sets of Lightning earpods or does it only 
work for Earpods and charging?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Candy, 

I'd recommend the Belkin Rockstar lightning adapter and also recommend you get 
it from the Apple online store which has free shipping. It is $40 as Sieghard 
has said and it gives full functionality of the remote and other buttons on the 
earpods. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone 
> Could someone please give me a suggestion for the best adapter to allow me to 
> listen to music with earpods and also charge my phone at the same time.  I am 
> using an iPHONE 8.  Thanks in advance.  
> Candy  ,
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi David,

Have you tried to touch an item in the status bar like the time and then do a 
double tap?
Do you use it to find apps on your phone? Why not use handwriting, it is much 
faster and works great.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave Bahr
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 7:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

Hmmm, guess I should have explained this better. The search field shows up 
occasionally. However, when I wrote the message I did, when I would do the 
3-finger swipe down, all voiceover would say is, siri app suggestions, heading. 
No matter which way I tried to move and scroll pages, I could not get that 
search box to show up. Unfortunately, sometimes that search box shows up, 
sometimes it doesn’t. I can’t replicate the issue each time. But when it does 
happen, i’m stuck with just apps that I’ve used recently, and I can’t search 
for anything else. This even happened after a reboot.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:18:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

Hi Harry,

Doing a 3-finger swipe to the right when on the main home screen gives you the 
Today screen. To get to spotlight search you touch any app or folder on any of 
your home screens and do a 3-finger swipe down.
Somebody else needs to check this for David, I have already moved on to the iOS 
11.1 Public Beta and can’t confirm David’s finding. I guess this tells you 
something *smile*. In fact, I can recommend the iOS 11.1 public beta to anybody 
who is half way tech savvy and knows how to install it, I have for the most 
part only found it to contain improvements when it comes to Voiceover. I won’t 
explain how you get it since I don’t want anybody to yell at me because they 
installed it and ran into problems.
It is not difficult and the information on how to do it is easily found if you 
Google “How to install iOS public beta”. I assume if you can’t find the 
instructions on Google you definitely should not attempt to install it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Bell
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

I think the spotlight search is reached by three finger swipe from left to 
right to reach page 1 of all screens. At the very top is a Search field, which 
seems to be what you want?
Harry

On 1 Oct 2017, at 13:54, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I've never tried using Siri to ask for a spotlight search. A three finger swipe 
down in the middle of the screen works every time.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

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mailto:dcba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe this has been covered before, but I can’t get a search box to appear 
when I ask for spotlight search. All it gives me are siri app suggestions. And 
when I turn those off, in search, and in lookup, it just says, no items found, 
and I have no search box to type something in. Anyone lese have this? It’s a 
royal pain as I use the spotlight a ton.
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has anyone found that when you are on hangouts or other chatt apps in ios 11 that you have to contend with vo reading out notifications and stuff?

[michv]

Hi all. i have found when i have updated to ios 11 i have found that when i am 
in hangouts or messenger or other messaging apps that for some reason vo reads 
out things like brakeing and other stuff when you are trying to read your 
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Re: Apple Watch data

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Unpairing the watch erases it completely. I think you would have to pair it 
again to be able to get to the Reset option.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> First unpair your watch from your phone.  Then go to Settings on your watch 
> and reset your watch.
> To get to reset on your watch, go to settings, general, and reset.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:29 AM, denise Avant  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> I am passing my Apple watch to someone else. Is it enough to disconnect the 
>> watch from my phone or is there a reset function to clear out any of my 
>> data? Thanks.
>>  
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Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

[Harry Bell]

Thanks for the encouragementto rejoin the beta program, Sieghard! I found the 
original beta so gruelling that I bailed out. Now I have rejoined, I do see 
what you mean about VoiceOver improvements! 
Cheers 
Harry

> On 1 Oct 2017, at 15:18, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Harry,
>  
> Doing a 3-finger swipe to the right when on the main home screen gives you 
> the Today screen. To get to spotlight search you touch any app or folder on 
> any of your home screens and do a 3-finger swipe down.
> Somebody else needs to check this for David, I have already moved on to the 
> iOS 11.1 Public Beta and can’t confirm David’s finding. I guess this tells 
> you something *smile*. In fact, I can recommend the iOS 11.1 public beta to 
> anybody who is half way tech savvy and knows how to install it, I have for 
> the most part only found it to contain improvements when it comes to 
> Voiceover. I won’t explain how you get it since I don’t want anybody to yell 
> at me because they installed it and ran into problems.
> It is not difficult and the information on how to do it is easily found if 
> you Google “How to install iOS public beta”. I assume if you can’t find the 
> instructions on Google you definitely should not attempt to install it.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Bell
> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 6:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11
>  
> I think the spotlight search is reached by three finger swipe from left to 
> right to reach page 1 of all screens. At the very top is a Search field, 
> which seems to be what you want? 
> Harry
> 
> On 1 Oct 2017, at 13:54, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I've never tried using Siri to ask for a spotlight search. A three finger 
> swipe down in the middle of the screen works every time.
> Richard
>  
>  
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Oct 1, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Dave Bahr  wrote:
> 
> Hi, maybe this has been covered before, but I can’t get a search box to 
> appear when I ask for spotlight search. All it gives me are siri app 
> suggestions. And when I turn those off, in search, and in lookup, it just 
> says, no items found, and I have no search box to type something in. Anyone 
> lese have this? It’s a royal pain as I use the spotlight a ton. 
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Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

[Dave Bahr]

No, haven’t tried the status bar thing so will give that a try. Yes, I use it 
to find apps on the phone. Um, if I used handwriting, wouldn’t I need to know 
how to write in print? Maybe that’s a dumb question but I’ve never used it and 
all I can do in print is sign my name at best, but I can do about 60 wpm in 
braille, or used to.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:24:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

Hi David,

Have you tried to touch an item in the status bar like the time and then do a 
double tap?
Do you use it to find apps on your phone? Why not use handwriting, it is much 
faster and works great.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave Bahr
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 7:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

Hmmm, guess I should have explained this better. The search field shows up 
occasionally. However, when I wrote the message I did, when I would do the 
3-finger swipe down, all voiceover would say is, siri app suggestions, heading. 
No matter which way I tried to move and scroll pages, I could not get that 
search box to show up. Unfortunately, sometimes that search box shows up, 
sometimes it doesn’t. I can’t replicate the issue each time. But when it does 
happen, i’m stuck with just apps that I’ve used recently, and I can’t search 
for anything else. This even happened after a reboot.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:18:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

Hi Harry,

Doing a 3-finger swipe to the right when on the main home screen gives you the 
Today screen. To get to spotlight search you touch any app or folder on any of 
your home screens and do a 3-finger swipe down.
Somebody else needs to check this for David, I have already moved on to the iOS 
11.1 Public Beta and can’t confirm David’s finding. I guess this tells you 
something *smile*. In fact, I can recommend the iOS 11.1 public beta to anybody 
who is half way tech savvy and knows how to install it, I have for the most 
part only found it to contain improvements when it comes to Voiceover. I won’t 
explain how you get it since I don’t want anybody to yell at me because they 
installed it and ran into problems.
It is not difficult and the information on how to do it is easily found if you 
Google “How to install iOS public beta”. I assume if you can’t find the 
instructions on Google you definitely should not attempt to install it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Bell
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

I think the spotlight search is reached by three finger swipe from left to 
right to reach page 1 of all screens. At the very top is a Search field, which 
seems to be what you want?
Harry

On 1 Oct 2017, at 13:54, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I've never tried using Siri to ask for a spotlight search. A three finger swipe 
down in the middle of the screen works every time.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Dave Bahr 
mailto:dcba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe this has been covered before, but I can’t get a search box to appear 
when I ask for spotlight search. All it gives me are siri app suggestions. And 
when I turn those off, in search, and in lookup, it just says, no items found, 
and I have no search box to type something in. Anyone lese have this? It’s a 
royal pain as I use the spotlight a ton.
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Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

[Kelby Carlson]

Does anybody know if Seeing AI'S results are affected by the level of
screen brightness? I like to keep mine at 0, but I've noticed the
camera seems to work much better when I turn it up high.

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RE: Use cases for full-size iPad and totally blind people

[Doc wright]

Have you tried changing your rotor to container while checking your mail? When 
you speak of dragging are you referring to moving apps and folderrs? 

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Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 3:29 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com; 
mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: Use cases for full-size iPad and totally blind people

Hi folks,
I have an iPad mini 2, which has just about become slow enough to drive me 
crazy. So I am either going to have to bite the bullet and go for a full-size 
iPad or just give up the whole notion of having two Apple devices. I know that 
there is someone better keyboard support in iOS 11, which could make it 
possible to use an iPad more efficiently as a word processor, since you can now 
do things like read the current line and the current word etc. I have never 
liked all the extra real estate on the larger iPad. But I do have a Bluetooth 
keyboard now that can be connected to more than one device, and I was messing 
around this morning with my iPad mini and this keyboard. That's when the speed 
thing really got to me. But there are other things I think I still don't 
understand, such as how to get from the message list in mail to the full text 
of the message and back again efficiently using a Bluetooth keyboard. What do 
those of you who use The full sized iPad do with them? Do you use a Bluetooth 
keyboard? Have you had much experience with the new drag and drop and how that 
works or doesn't work well?
Mary


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RE: To keyboard users with IOS 11.

[Doc wright]

the keys work on my logitech k760 and I am running 11.1 beta. they have never 
stopped working for me even before this.

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Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 11:41 AM
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Thank you Ari.

Connie

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englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 6:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To keyboard users with IOS 11.

I heard on AppleVis's thread on the bugs in iOS 11, that you have to use 
control or the FN key to get media controls with the function keys owing again. 
You may want to take a look at that thread. It was either in that one or the 
one on the accessibility changes in iOS 11 thread.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 24, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Connie Mohney  wrote:
> 
> Good Sunday afternoon everyone.
> Earlier this week I wrote in with keyboard questions for IOS 11 users.  
> I promised I would play in IOS 11 and let you know if I found any work 
> arounds.  Here is what I found. If you want to get to home while in an 
> app you can press control  option and the letter h.  If you want to 
> close an app you can press this same combination but press the h twice 
> quickly.  This will take you to the app switcher.
> Sometimes, I have problems deleting mail especially if I have opened a 
> thread of mail to read it.  So, press f3 which will take you away from 
> the message.  Once that is done you can go back to the message and 
> delete what you want.
> 
> I have found that I can't activate music anymore with my function keys 
> like I used to in IOS 10.  So, in order to start music, you have to 
> have the app open.  Once you have it open you can press your function 
> keys to skip a song or repeat a song.  The volume buttons in the 
> function keys don't work with IOS 11.  Hope this helps.
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problem with internet connection

[Negoslav Sabev]

Hi all,

I have a really strange problem with my internet connnectivity. It has
been happening for fiew months now. I cann't find any pattern or
specific conditions that cause it. No specific dates,, days, time or
actions on my behalf. It runs from fiew hours to about two days.

Here it is. Usually I have WiFi and 3G  on. If the phone uses WiFi, it
shows the network name and strenght. If on 3G, it shows it on the
status bar. Something happens and I see 3g and the WiFi network name
without its strenght. I don't have WiFi Assist on.
And the strange thing is that I receive notifications from Messanger
and Skype, I have Siri working, But I can't check for email or open
any web site. If I ask Siri something, she tells me what she finds on
the web, but if I try to open it from its windows or from Safari, I
get "your iPhone is not connected to the internet" message.

It is really, really annoying. I have cleared the app switcher,
rebooted the phone, made the hard reset with home and power buttons,
reset my network settings, reset all settings, changed the DNS server,
but none of these helped. The only thing I haven't tried is to reset
as a new device, but setting it all to my liking takes me more than a
day, and I don't have such free time.

I use iPhone SE 64GB, iOS 11.0.1. The problem appeared in iOS 10.3.2
so I don't think it is OS version specific.

Anyone with such problem or good advice?

Thanks,
Negoslav

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Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

[Richard Turner]

Dave,
Did you go into the Siri and Search settings and turn off app suggestions?
Maybe that would help.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:08 AM, Dave Bahr 
mailto:dcba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

No, haven’t tried the status bar thing so will give that a try. Yes, I use it 
to find apps on the phone. Um, if I used handwriting, wouldn’t I need to know 
how to write in print? Maybe that’s a dumb question but I’ve never used it and 
all I can do in print is sign my name at best, but I can do about 60 wpm in 
braille, or used to.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:24:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

Hi David,

Have you tried to touch an item in the status bar like the time and then do a 
double tap?
Do you use it to find apps on your phone? Why not use handwriting, it is much 
faster and works great.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Bahr
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 7:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

Hmmm, guess I should have explained this better. The search field shows up 
occasionally. However, when I wrote the message I did, when I would do the 
3-finger swipe down, all voiceover would say is, siri app suggestions, heading. 
No matter which way I tried to move and scroll pages, I could not get that 
search box to show up. Unfortunately, sometimes that search box shows up, 
sometimes it doesn’t. I can’t replicate the issue each time. But when it does 
happen, i’m stuck with just apps that I’ve used recently, and I can’t search 
for anything else. This even happened after a reboot.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:18:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

Hi Harry,

Doing a 3-finger swipe to the right when on the main home screen gives you the 
Today screen. To get to spotlight search you touch any app or folder on any of 
your home screens and do a 3-finger swipe down.
Somebody else needs to check this for David, I have already moved on to the iOS 
11.1 Public Beta and can’t confirm David’s finding. I guess this tells you 
something *smile*. In fact, I can recommend the iOS 11.1 public beta to anybody 
who is half way tech savvy and knows how to install it, I have for the most 
part only found it to contain improvements when it comes to Voiceover. I won’t 
explain how you get it since I don’t want anybody to yell at me because they 
installed it and ran into problems.
It is not difficult and the information on how to do it is easily found if you 
Google “How to install iOS public beta”. I assume if you can’t find the 
instructions on Google you definitely should not attempt to install it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Bell
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

I think the spotlight search is reached by three finger swipe from left to 
right to reach page 1 of all screens. At the very top is a Search field, which 
seems to be what you want?
Harry

On 1 Oct 2017, at 13:54, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I've never tried using Siri to ask for a spotlight search. A three finger swipe 
down in the middle of the screen works every time.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Dave Bahr 
mailto:dcba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe this has been covered before, but I can’t get a search box to appear 
when I ask for spotlight search. All it gives me are siri app suggestions. And 
when I turn those off, in search, and in lookup, it just says, no items found, 
and I have no search box to type something in. Anyone lese have this? It’s a 
royal pain as I use the spotlight a ton.
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RE: problem with Bluetooth keyboard

[Doc wright]

when having problems with your keyboard try turning off the keyboard's power 
and then turning it back on.

 

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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 7:32 PM
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Subject: problem with Bluetooth keyboard

 

Hi all,

When I was in the mail app this morning after I set up my account, I had 
trouble getting out of it.

When I tried command vo then h, it didn’t take me out, plus when I try to edit 
something I can’t seem to get in to the field.

I am using IOS 11.1 on an iPhone six s.

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Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

[Richard Turner]

I just did a test using both scene beta and short text.
I tried it with the brightness set to 0, then 100 as well as then turning on 
the screen curtain.
I got pretty much the same results in all cases. I tried to keep my hand in the 
same position, but it is impossible to be absolutely exact which I think 
accounted for some slight variation.
The screen brightness should not effect any camera based app since you are not 
doing anything to cover the camera.
HTH,
Richard



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On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Kelby Carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does anybody know if Seeing AI'S results are affected by the level of
screen brightness? I like to keep mine at 0, but I've noticed the
camera seems to work much better when I turn it up high.

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Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

[Donna]

I too, have my screen brightness set low. I haven't had any problems when using 
the app, except when there isn't enough light in the room where Im trying to 
take a photo & have it recognized. 

Donna  
> 
> Does anybody know if Seeing AI'S results are affected by the level of
> screen brightness? I like to keep mine at 0, but I've noticed the
> camera seems to work much better when I turn it up high.
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Re: how to stop notifications when getting in to a car

[Kay Malmquist]

Thanks for this.  I know I had it but, well you know how it goes.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
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  Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 9:09 AM
  Subject: RE: how to stop notifications when getting in to a car


  Settings > Do Not Disturb > Do Not Disturb While Driving

  Set this to “Manual”, if it is already on manual change it to automatic 
and then back to manual, somebody said that at first when it was on manual 
it still happened and this is how it was for me, but apparently changing it 
to automatic and back is supposed to fix it. I don’t think I drove since I 
did this or maybe I did and since I didn’t notice it any more it did work.



  Regards,

  Sieghard





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Of Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 5:58 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: how to stop notifications when getting in to a car



  Hi all,

  Can someone please tell me the steps for turning off the do not disturb 
notifications when getting in and out of a car in ios 11?

  I know someone posted this and I thought I kept it.  I did a search for it 
and can not find it.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks much.



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Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

[Kelby Carlson]

I tried the "person" setting. When my brightness was at 0, it would
say "no people detected" but when I put it at 100 it described my
face.

On 10/1/17, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I just did a test using both scene beta and short text.
> I tried it with the brightness set to 0, then 100 as well as then turning on
> the screen curtain.
> I got pretty much the same results in all cases. I tried to keep my hand in
> the same position, but it is impossible to be absolutely exact which I think
> accounted for some slight variation.
> The screen brightness should not effect any camera based app since you are
> not doing anything to cover the camera.
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>
> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Kelby Carlson
> mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Does anybody know if Seeing AI'S results are affected by the level of
> screen brightness? I like to keep mine at 0, but I've noticed the
> camera seems to work much better when I turn it up high.
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RE: Apple Watch data

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi Anna, and others who have upgraded their AppleWatch.
I made the plunge to the GPS model.

Any advice for steps on how to deal with decommissioning my original AppleWatch 
and setting up the new one? Should be here on Tuesday.

Thanks in advance. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 10:02 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: Apple Watch data

Hi,

Unpairing the watch erases it completely. I think you would have to pair it 
again to be able to get to the Reset option.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Chris Chaffin 
mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote:


First unpair your watch from your phone.  Then go to Settings on your watch and 
reset your watch.
To get to reset on your watch, go to settings, general, and reset.

Hope this helps.

Chris


On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:29 AM, denise Avant 
mailto:denise.av...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello all,
I am passing my Apple watch to someone else. Is it enough to disconnect the 
watch from my phone or is there a reset function to clear out any of my data? 
Thanks.




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Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Lois Butterfield]

Hi Seigard,

No, I went with an off brand called Sinemax, and it worked fine for me.  I'm
thinking it would work for double headphones with lightning plugs, because I
could plug the charging cable and headphones into either one.

If you lived closer, I'd run it over to you.  I don't use it anymore.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same
time

Hey Lois,

I am just curious as to whether the splitter you have is the Belkin one or a
different brand. Also, does it allow only for a Lightning headset to be
connected along with a Lightning cable to charge the phone or can you plug
in two Lightning headsets? I am curious because there are times when this
could be a nice feature, for example, if I were on a flight with my wife and
we both wanted to listen to the same book.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 2:52 AM
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Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same
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Hi Candy,

I have a splitter that enables you to plug in two lightning plugs into the
phone at the same time.  If you are using the earphones that came with your
phone with the lightning plug, it would work fine for you.

Write me off list if you want more information on it.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Candy Lowe
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hello everyone
Could someone please give me a suggestion for the best adapter to allow me
to listen to music with earpods and also charge my phone at the same time.
I am using an iPHONE 8.  Thanks in advance.
Candy  ,

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-Original Message- 
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Re: Just Press Record Query.

[SSEric]

I find that I no longer land on the record button when opening the app or going 
to it from the app switcher. The button is very easy to find, just above the 
physical  home button. But…

Also, it seems they have done away with the daily folders. While not deal 
breakers for me, it does change the experience using this app.

Eric
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On Oct 1, 2017, at 7:29 AM, Jim Noseworthy  
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Hi Folks:
 
Does anyone have any experience with the latest updated “Just Press Record” 
app?  If so, how so?
 
Thanks all over the place.
 
 
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Re: Use cases for full-size iPad and totally blind people

[Mary Otten]

Yes, I did try container, but the result wasn't what I expected. Regarding 
dragging, no I'm not just referring to moving folders like you can on an iPhone 
running iOS 11. I'm referring to the expanded functionality of the files app 
that is available only on iPads.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:31 AM, Doc wright  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried changing your rotor to container while checking your mail? 
> When you speak of dragging are you referring to moving apps and folderrs? 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 3:29 PM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com; 
> mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Use cases for full-size iPad and totally blind people
> 
> Hi folks,
> I have an iPad mini 2, which has just about become slow enough to drive me 
> crazy. So I am either going to have to bite the bullet and go for a full-size 
> iPad or just give up the whole notion of having two Apple devices. I know 
> that there is someone better keyboard support in iOS 11, which could make it 
> possible to use an iPad more efficiently as a word processor, since you can 
> now do things like read the current line and the current word etc. I have 
> never liked all the extra real estate on the larger iPad. But I do have a 
> Bluetooth keyboard now that can be connected to more than one device, and I 
> was messing around this morning with my iPad mini and this keyboard. That's 
> when the speed thing really got to me. But there are other things I think I 
> still don't understand, such as how to get from the message list in mail to 
> the full text of the message and back again efficiently using a Bluetooth 
> keyboard. What do those of you who use The full sized iPad do with them? Do 
> you use a Bluetooth keyboard? Have you had much experience with the new drag 
> and drop and how that works or doesn't work well?
> Mary
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Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

[Richard Turner]

Unless you had turned the phone around so the back was facing you, you were 
using the front facing camera. Apparently screen brightness does interfere with 
that one. I, like others, assumed you were using the back camera for something 
like short text, etc.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Kelby Carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I tried the "person" setting. When my brightness was at 0, it would
say "no people detected" but when I put it at 100 it described my
face.

On 10/1/17, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I just did a test using both scene beta and short text.
I tried it with the brightness set to 0, then 100 as well as then turning on
the screen curtain.
I got pretty much the same results in all cases. I tried to keep my hand in
the same position, but it is impossible to be absolutely exact which I think
accounted for some slight variation.
The screen brightness should not effect any camera based app since you are
not doing anything to cover the camera.
HTH,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Kelby Carlson
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>>
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Does anybody know if Seeing AI'S results are affected by the level of
screen brightness? I like to keep mine at 0, but I've noticed the
camera seems to work much better when I turn it up high.

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Bug with vo feedback when typing in Braille BI 40

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hi all,

I have just submitted a bug with apple accessibility and would like to see if 
you can reproduce it.
I use a BI40 to write text.
The problem happens when the edit cursor is not at the end of the text. 
I write a word and press space bar and vo instead of announcing the word I have 
just typed, reads following words. 
I can reproduce this in mail and notes have not tried other apps. 
Of course, if I am at the end of the edit field, the problem does not happen 
and vo reads the last input word correctly/

Incidentally,, I asked the accessibility speciallist on the phone if they 
rather we mail apple accessibility or report the bug on the phone. He said it’s 
preferable on the phone this way they can explore the issue and submit a 
detailed report.

THought it’s good to pass on this info.

OF course, if you have betas then you have to use feedback app.

hth,

Ioana 

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RE: problem with internet connection

[Sieghard Weitzel]

First of all, if 3G is displayed in addition to WiFi with no bars this usually 
means your WiFi is down or very weak.
As for getting some notifications/some things working and others are not, do 
you by any chance don't allow things like mail to work via 3G?
Two things come to mind:
1. Have you added any other wireless devices to your network? I once had a 
situation at my business where no matter what I did my WiFi was horrible both 
in terms of signal strength and even when connected in terms of speed. I had a 
pretty high-end router, ended up buying another newer one, then bought a 
separate and expensive wireless access point and nothing helped. Eventually I 
for some reason took away this Creative wireless soundcard I had. It consisted 
of a unit which gets connected to a computer via USB and which contained a 
transmitter, then you could have multiple receivers connected to a set of 
powered speakers. I had this connected to my server in a small room where I 
kept it along with all my networking gear and I Had a receiver set up in my 
office about 30 or 40 feet away. Anyhow, to say no more, as soon as I 
disconnected this wireless sound card/transmitter and the corresponding 
receivers suddenly my WiFi worked flawlessly almost  everywhere in my 4,000 
square foot retail store which consists of two levels of 2,000 square feet 
each. I just never even thought this could be the reason and it taught me that 
any wireless devices can interfere although this was still in the days of 2.4 
Ghz.
The second thing I would do is to check your router. Do you have your own or is 
it provided by your internet provider? If it's your own I would make sure the 
firmware is up to date and at least I would reboot the router if you haven't 
done so yet.
Have you ever had a chance to connect to the WiFi of a friend or family member 
to see if it works better there?

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problem with internet connection

Hi all,

I have a really strange problem with my internet connnectivity. It has been 
happening for fiew months now. I cann't find any pattern or specific conditions 
that cause it. No specific dates,, days, time or actions on my behalf. It runs 
from fiew hours to about two days.

Here it is. Usually I have WiFi and 3G  on. If the phone uses WiFi, it shows 
the network name and strenght. If on 3G, it shows it on the status bar. 
Something happens and I see 3g and the WiFi network name without its strenght. 
I don't have WiFi Assist on.
And the strange thing is that I receive notifications from Messanger and Skype, 
I have Siri working, But I can't check for email or open any web site. If I ask 
Siri something, she tells me what she finds on the web, but if I try to open it 
from its windows or from Safari, I get "your iPhone is not connected to the 
internet" message.

It is really, really annoying. I have cleared the app switcher, rebooted the 
phone, made the hard reset with home and power buttons, reset my network 
settings, reset all settings, changed the DNS server, but none of these helped. 
The only thing I haven't tried is to reset as a new device, but setting it all 
to my liking takes me more than a day, and I don't have such free time.

I use iPhone SE 64GB, iOS 11.0.1. The problem appeared in iOS 10.3.2 so I don't 
think it is OS version specific.

Anyone with such problem or good advice?

Thanks,
Negoslav

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Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

[Deidre Muccio]

I've been wondering about the screen brightness and screen curtain on when 
using the Camera and other scanning type applications. So as I suspected, that 
is not the reason my photos are all turning out to dark! The fact that I 
usually have screen brightness completely off and scan screen curtain on. I 
wonder how I can improve my photos.

Deidre


> On Oct 1, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I just did a test using both scene beta and short text.
> I tried it with the brightness set to 0, then 100 as well as then turning on 
> the screen curtain.
> I got pretty much the same results in all cases. I tried to keep my hand in 
> the same position, but it is impossible to be absolutely exact which I think 
> accounted for some slight variation. 
> The screen brightness should not effect any camera based app since you are 
> not doing anything to cover the camera.
> HTH, 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
> 
>> Does anybody know if Seeing AI'S results are affected by the level of
>> screen brightness? I like to keep mine at 0, but I've noticed the
>> camera seems to work much better when I turn it up high.
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RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi David,

As long as you know the alphabet usually all that is required for you is to 
draw one or two letters to narrow it down.
I could see how it might take some practice, but I would give it a try. Maybe 
it’s easy for me to say because I had full sight until I was almost 17 so 
writing of course is not a big deal.
Of course there is also SIRI and as long as you know the name of the app you 
want telling SIRI to open it I also find quite easy and typically faster than 
bringing up spotlight search, starting to type and then finding what I want.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave Bahr
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

No, haven’t tried the status bar thing so will give that a try. Yes, I use it 
to find apps on the phone. Um, if I used handwriting, wouldn’t I need to know 
how to write in print? Maybe that’s a dumb question but I’ve never used it and 
all I can do in print is sign my name at best, but I can do about 60 wpm in 
braille, or used to.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:24:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

Hi David,

Have you tried to touch an item in the status bar like the time and then do a 
double tap?
Do you use it to find apps on your phone? Why not use handwriting, it is much 
faster and works great.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Bahr
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 7:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

Hmmm, guess I should have explained this better. The search field shows up 
occasionally. However, when I wrote the message I did, when I would do the 
3-finger swipe down, all voiceover would say is, siri app suggestions, heading. 
No matter which way I tried to move and scroll pages, I could not get that 
search box to show up. Unfortunately, sometimes that search box shows up, 
sometimes it doesn’t. I can’t replicate the issue each time. But when it does 
happen, i’m stuck with just apps that I’ve used recently, and I can’t search 
for anything else. This even happened after a reboot.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:18:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

Hi Harry,

Doing a 3-finger swipe to the right when on the main home screen gives you the 
Today screen. To get to spotlight search you touch any app or folder on any of 
your home screens and do a 3-finger swipe down.
Somebody else needs to check this for David, I have already moved on to the iOS 
11.1 Public Beta and can’t confirm David’s finding. I guess this tells you 
something *smile*. In fact, I can recommend the iOS 11.1 public beta to anybody 
who is half way tech savvy and knows how to install it, I have for the most 
part only found it to contain improvements when it comes to Voiceover. I won’t 
explain how you get it since I don’t want anybody to yell at me because they 
installed it and ran into problems.
It is not difficult and the information on how to do it is easily found if you 
Google “How to install iOS public beta”. I assume if you can’t find the 
instructions on Google you definitely should not attempt to install it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Bell
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

I think the spotlight search is reached by three finger swipe from left to 
right to reach page 1 of all screens. At the very top is a Search field, which 
seems to be what you want?
Harry

On 1 Oct 2017, at 13:54, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I've never tried using Siri to ask for a spotlight search. A three finger swipe 
down in the middle of the screen works every time.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Dave Bahr 
mailto:dcba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe this has been covered before, but I can’t get a search box to appear 
when I ask for spotlight search. All it gives me are siri app suggestions. And 
when I turn those off, in search, and in lookup, it just says, no items found, 
and I have no search box to type something in. Anyone lese have this? 

RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Sieghard Weitzel]

We have a guest room and it's ccanadian thanks-giving next weekend. There will 
be turkey, bread dumplings, red cabbage, all the good german stuff. Our local 
airport code is YYD that should make it easy to book your flight so feel free 
to drop by for a few days and bring it with you *smile*.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hi Seigard,

No, I went with an off brand called Sinemax, and it worked fine for me.  I'm 
thinking it would work for double headphones with lightning plugs, because I 
could plug the charging cable and headphones into either one.

If you lived closer, I'd run it over to you.  I don't use it anymore.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hey Lois,

I am just curious as to whether the splitter you have is the Belkin one or a 
different brand. Also, does it allow only for a Lightning headset to be 
connected along with a Lightning cable to charge the phone or can you plug in 
two Lightning headsets? I am curious because there are times when this could be 
a nice feature, for example, if I were on a flight with my wife and we both 
wanted to listen to the same book.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 2:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hi Candy,

I have a splitter that enables you to plug in two lightning plugs into the 
phone at the same time.  If you are using the earphones that came with your 
phone with the lightning plug, it would work fine for you.

Write me off list if you want more information on it.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Candy Lowe
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hello everyone
Could someone please give me a suggestion for the best adapter to allow me to 
listen to music with earpods and also charge my phone at the same time.
I am using an iPHONE 8.  Thanks in advance.
Candy  ,

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: problem with internet connection

[Negoslav Sabev]

Hi Sieghard,

Thank you for the reply.

I thought about the router, but it seems it is not the problem. I
rebooted it. It is my own and it is old with the latest possible
firmware, but I have no problems with other devices. At the moment I
have only my laptop connected and I can open sites, download files,
watch video on it without any problem. I connected another laptop and
no problem there too.
This problem occurs on the work network too. They are different
routers on different places, different times. On work network we have
many devices. The situation with my iPhone there is the same. If I
turn of WiFi on iPhone and leave only 3G, nothing changes for better.

I struggle for months now, and I have no answer to this.

On 10/1/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> First of all, if 3G is displayed in addition to WiFi with no bars this
> usually means your WiFi is down or very weak.
> As for getting some notifications/some things working and others are not, do
> you by any chance don't allow things like mail to work via 3G?
> Two things come to mind:
> 1. Have you added any other wireless devices to your network? I once had a
> situation at my business where no matter what I did my WiFi was horrible
> both in terms of signal strength and even when connected in terms of speed.
> I had a pretty high-end router, ended up buying another newer one, then
> bought a separate and expensive wireless access point and nothing helped.
> Eventually I for some reason took away this Creative wireless soundcard I
> had. It consisted of a unit which gets connected to a computer via USB and
> which contained a transmitter, then you could have multiple receivers
> connected to a set of powered speakers. I had this connected to my server in
> a small room where I kept it along with all my networking gear and I Had a
> receiver set up in my office about 30 or 40 feet away. Anyhow, to say no
> more, as soon as I disconnected this wireless sound card/transmitter and the
> corresponding receivers suddenly my WiFi worked flawlessly almost
> everywhere in my 4,000 square foot retail store which consists of two levels
> of 2,000 square feet each. I just never even thought this could be the
> reason and it taught me that any wireless devices can interfere although
> this was still in the days of 2.4 Ghz.
> The second thing I would do is to check your router. Do you have your own or
> is it provided by your internet provider? If it's your own I would make sure
> the firmware is up to date and at least I would reboot the router if you
> haven't done so yet.
> Have you ever had a chance to connect to the WiFi of a friend or family
> member to see if it works better there?
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Negoslav Sabev
> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: problem with internet connection
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a really strange problem with my internet connnectivity. It has been
> happening for fiew months now. I cann't find any pattern or specific
> conditions that cause it. No specific dates,, days, time or actions on my
> behalf. It runs from fiew hours to about two days.
>
> Here it is. Usually I have WiFi and 3G  on. If the phone uses WiFi, it shows
> the network name and strenght. If on 3G, it shows it on the status bar.
> Something happens and I see 3g and the WiFi network name without its
> strenght. I don't have WiFi Assist on.
> And the strange thing is that I receive notifications from Messanger and
> Skype, I have Siri working, But I can't check for email or open any web
> site. If I ask Siri something, she tells me what she finds on the web, but
> if I try to open it from its windows or from Safari, I get "your iPhone is
> not connected to the internet" message.
>
> It is really, really annoying. I have cleared the app switcher, rebooted the
> phone, made the hard reset with home and power buttons, reset my network
> settings, reset all settings, changed the DNS server, but none of these
> helped. The only thing I haven't tried is to reset as a new device, but
> setting it all to my liking takes me more than a day, and I don't have such
> free time.
>
> I use iPhone SE 64GB, iOS 11.0.1. The problem appeared in iOS 10.3.2 so I
> don't think it is OS version specific.
>
> Anyone with such problem or good advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Negoslav
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RE: problem with internet connection

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You might want to go to an Apple Store if you have one nearby and get them to 
run some diagnostics as there is always a chance something could be wrong with 
your WiFi.
Of course they would probably want to restore and set up as a new phone. If you 
do a backup this is not such a big deal, use it for a bit as a new phone with 
little else on it, then if all seems well restore your backup  and see if it 
continues to work. It comes down to illiminating all other factors and while 
doing a reset network settings definitely is the right thing to do, it may not 
be as complete as a complete restore where the OS is installed new.

Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Negoslav Sabev
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: problem with internet connection

Hi Sieghard,

Thank you for the reply.

I thought about the router, but it seems it is not the problem. I rebooted it. 
It is my own and it is old with the latest possible firmware, but I have no 
problems with other devices. At the moment I have only my laptop connected and 
I can open sites, download files, watch video on it without any problem. I 
connected another laptop and no problem there too.
This problem occurs on the work network too. They are different routers on 
different places, different times. On work network we have many devices. The 
situation with my iPhone there is the same. If I turn of WiFi on iPhone and 
leave only 3G, nothing changes for better.

I struggle for months now, and I have no answer to this.

On 10/1/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> First of all, if 3G is displayed in addition to WiFi with no bars this 
> usually means your WiFi is down or very weak.
> As for getting some notifications/some things working and others are 
> not, do you by any chance don't allow things like mail to work via 3G?
> Two things come to mind:
> 1. Have you added any other wireless devices to your network? I once 
> had a situation at my business where no matter what I did my WiFi was 
> horrible both in terms of signal strength and even when connected in terms of 
> speed.
> I had a pretty high-end router, ended up buying another newer one, 
> then bought a separate and expensive wireless access point and nothing helped.
> Eventually I for some reason took away this Creative wireless 
> soundcard I had. It consisted of a unit which gets connected to a 
> computer via USB and which contained a transmitter, then you could 
> have multiple receivers connected to a set of powered speakers. I had 
> this connected to my server in a small room where I kept it along with 
> all my networking gear and I Had a receiver set up in my office about 
> 30 or 40 feet away. Anyhow, to say no more, as soon as I disconnected 
> this wireless sound card/transmitter and the corresponding receivers 
> suddenly my WiFi worked flawlessly almost everywhere in my 4,000 
> square foot retail store which consists of two levels of 2,000 square 
> feet each. I just never even thought this could be the reason and it 
> taught me that any wireless devices can interfere although this was still in 
> the days of 2.4 Ghz.
> The second thing I would do is to check your router. Do you have your 
> own or is it provided by your internet provider? If it's your own I 
> would make sure the firmware is up to date and at least I would reboot 
> the router if you haven't done so yet.
> Have you ever had a chance to connect to the WiFi of a friend or 
> family member to see if it works better there?
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Negoslav Sabev
> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: problem with internet connection
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a really strange problem with my internet connnectivity. It has 
> been happening for fiew months now. I cann't find any pattern or 
> specific conditions that cause it. No specific dates,, days, time or 
> actions on my behalf. It runs from fiew hours to about two days.
>
> Here it is. Usually I have WiFi and 3G  on. If the phone uses WiFi, it 
> shows the network name and strenght. If on 3G, it shows it on the status bar.
> Something happens and I see 3g and the WiFi network name without its 
> strenght. I don't have WiFi Assist on.
> And the strange thing is that I receive notifications from Messanger 
> and Skype, I have Siri working, But I can't check for email or open 
> any web site. If I ask Siri something, she tells me what she finds on 
> the web, but if I try to open it from its windows or from Safari, I 
> get "your iPhone is not connected to the internet" message.
>
> It is really, really annoying. I have cleared the app switcher, 
> rebooted the phone, made the hard reset with home and power buttons, 
> reset my network settings, reset all settings, changed the DNS server

RE: locked out of voicemail since update

[M. Taylor]

Hello Marie,

I was just wondering if you were ever able to get things sorted out with your 
voicemail password?  

Did you contact your wireless provider for assistance?  

In the old days, one's initial voicemail password was the last 4 digits of the 
phone number associated with the account.  

Let us know what happened or what happens, okay?  

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie Lyons
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: locked out of voicemail since update

0.1 and Now I need a password to get my voicemail. Has anyone else seen this? 
Any suggestions?

Marie LyonsOn Wednesday I updated to 11

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RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Alan Lemly]

Sieghard,

Unfortunately, the Belkin Rockstar adapter doesn't appear to support 
simultaneous usage of two lightning earpods. I tried it with two earpods 
connected both when playing an audiobook with the BARD Mobile app and when 
playing a music track with the Apple music app. Both times, sound only came out 
of the earpods which initiated the playing and only its remote and volume 
buttons worked. The other set of earpods were ignored from what I could tell.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Alan, can you use it to plug in two sets of Lightning earpods or does it only 
work for Earpods and charging?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Candy, 

I'd recommend the Belkin Rockstar lightning adapter and also recommend you get 
it from the Apple online store which has free shipping. It is $40 as Sieghard 
has said and it gives full functionality of the remote and other buttons on the 
earpods. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone 
> Could someone please give me a suggestion for the best adapter to allow me to 
> listen to music with earpods and also charge my phone at the same time.  I am 
> using an iPHONE 8.  Thanks in advance.  
> Candy  ,
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apple Watch data

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Keith,

When the new watch arrives, unpair the old one. This will erase all the content 
and back it up to your phone. Then pair the new one and restore it from your 
backup. That's what I did, and it worked great.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 1, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
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> Hi Anna, and others who have upgraded their AppleWatch.
> I made the plunge to the GPS model.
>  
> Any advice for steps on how to deal with decommissioning my original 
> AppleWatch and setting up the new one? Should be here on Tuesday.
>  
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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> Unpairing the watch erases it completely. I think you would have to pair it 
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> On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Chris Chaffin  > wrote:
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> First unpair your watch from your phone.  Then go to Settings on your watch 
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> To get to reset on your watch, go to settings, general, and reset.
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Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

[Richard Turner]

I think you need a sighted person there who can see what you are doing wrong. 
For that to work, though, you would need to temporarily turn off the screen 
curtain and turn up the brightness.
HTH,
Richard


On Oct 1, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Deidre Muccio 
mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I've been wondering about the screen brightness and screen curtain on when 
using the Camera and other scanning type applications. So as I suspected, that 
is not the reason my photos are all turning out to dark! The fact that I 
usually have screen brightness completely off and scan screen curtain on. I 
wonder how I can improve my photos.

Deidre


On Oct 1, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I just did a test using both scene beta and short text.
I tried it with the brightness set to 0, then 100 as well as then turning on 
the screen curtain.
I got pretty much the same results in all cases. I tried to keep my hand in the 
same position, but it is impossible to be absolutely exact which I think 
accounted for some slight variation.
The screen brightness should not effect any camera based app since you are not 
doing anything to cover the camera.
HTH,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Kelby Carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does anybody know if Seeing AI'S results are affected by the level of
screen brightness? I like to keep mine at 0, but I've noticed the
camera seems to work much better when I turn it up high.

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Re: problem with internet connection

[Negoslav Sabev]

Unfortunally this option is too expencive. The nearest Apple store is
in a neighbouring country. I bought the device from US, because it was
cheeper and a friend brought it to me. And I am in Europe.

On 10/1/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> You might want to go to an Apple Store if you have one nearby and get them
> to run some diagnostics as there is always a chance something could be wrong
> with your WiFi.
> Of course they would probably want to restore and set up as a new phone. If
> you do a backup this is not such a big deal, use it for a bit as a new phone
> with little else on it, then if all seems well restore your backup  and see
> if it continues to work. It comes down to illiminating all other factors and
> while doing a reset network settings definitely is the right thing to do, it
> may not be as complete as a complete restore where the OS is installed new.
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> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: problem with internet connection
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> Hi Sieghard,
>
> Thank you for the reply.
>
> I thought about the router, but it seems it is not the problem. I rebooted
> it. It is my own and it is old with the latest possible firmware, but I have
> no problems with other devices. At the moment I have only my laptop
> connected and I can open sites, download files, watch video on it without
> any problem. I connected another laptop and no problem there too.
> This problem occurs on the work network too. They are different routers on
> different places, different times. On work network we have many devices. The
> situation with my iPhone there is the same. If I turn of WiFi on iPhone and
> leave only 3G, nothing changes for better.
>
> I struggle for months now, and I have no answer to this.
>
> On 10/1/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> First of all, if 3G is displayed in addition to WiFi with no bars this
>> usually means your WiFi is down or very weak.
>> As for getting some notifications/some things working and others are
>> not, do you by any chance don't allow things like mail to work via 3G?
>> Two things come to mind:
>> 1. Have you added any other wireless devices to your network? I once
>> had a situation at my business where no matter what I did my WiFi was
>> horrible both in terms of signal strength and even when connected in terms
>> of speed.
>> I had a pretty high-end router, ended up buying another newer one,
>> then bought a separate and expensive wireless access point and nothing
>> helped.
>> Eventually I for some reason took away this Creative wireless
>> soundcard I had. It consisted of a unit which gets connected to a
>> computer via USB and which contained a transmitter, then you could
>> have multiple receivers connected to a set of powered speakers. I had
>> this connected to my server in a small room where I kept it along with
>> all my networking gear and I Had a receiver set up in my office about
>> 30 or 40 feet away. Anyhow, to say no more, as soon as I disconnected
>> this wireless sound card/transmitter and the corresponding receivers
>> suddenly my WiFi worked flawlessly almost everywhere in my 4,000
>> square foot retail store which consists of two levels of 2,000 square
>> feet each. I just never even thought this could be the reason and it
>> taught me that any wireless devices can interfere although this was still
>> in the days of 2.4 Ghz.
>> The second thing I would do is to check your router. Do you have your
>> own or is it provided by your internet provider? If it's your own I
>> would make sure the firmware is up to date and at least I would reboot
>> the router if you haven't done so yet.
>> Have you ever had a chance to connect to the WiFi of a friend or
>> family member to see if it works better there?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Negoslav Sabev
>> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: problem with internet connection
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a really strange problem with my internet connnectivity. It has
>> been happening for fiew months now. I cann't find any pattern or
>> specific conditions that cause it. No specific dates,, days, time or
>> actions on my behalf. It runs from fiew hours to about two days.
>>
>> Here it is. Usually I have WiFi and 3G  on. If the phone uses WiFi, it
>> shows the network name and strenght. If on 3G, it shows it on the status
>> bar.
>> Something happens and I see 3g and the WiFi network name without its
>> strenght. I don't have WiFi Assist on.
>> And the strange thing is that I receive notifications from Messanger
>> and Skype, I have Siri working, But I can't check for email or open
>> any web site. If I ask Siri something, she tells me what she finds on
>> the web, but if I try

Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

[Kelby Carlson]

From what I understand you still need to use the back facing camera for 
the "person" function, at least that is always how I have had to do it.



On 10/1/2017 1:15 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


Unless you had turned the phone around so the back was facing you, you 
were using the front facing camera. Apparently screen brightness does 
interfere with that one. I, like others, assumed you were using the 
back camera for something like short text, etc.

Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Kelby Carlson > wrote:



I tried the "person" setting. When my brightness was at 0, it would
say "no people detected" but when I put it at 100 it described my
face.

On 10/1/17, Richard Turner > wrote:

I just did a test using both scene beta and short text.
I tried it with the brightness set to 0, then 100 as well as then 
turning on

the screen curtain.
I got pretty much the same results in all cases. I tried to keep my 
hand in
the same position, but it is impossible to be absolutely exact which 
I think

accounted for some slight variation.
The screen brightness should not effect any camera based app since 
you are

not doing anything to cover the camera.
HTH,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Kelby Carlson
> wrote:


Does anybody know if Seeing AI'S results are affected by the level of
screen brightness? I like to keep mine at 0, but I've noticed the
camera seems to work much better when I turn it up high.

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RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks, Alan, that's too bad and I guess it potentially saves me $50 which I 
assume this thing would cost here in Canada.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Sieghard,

Unfortunately, the Belkin Rockstar adapter doesn't appear to support 
simultaneous usage of two lightning earpods. I tried it with two earpods 
connected both when playing an audiobook with the BARD Mobile app and when 
playing a music track with the Apple music app. Both times, sound only came out 
of the earpods which initiated the playing and only its remote and volume 
buttons worked. The other set of earpods were ignored from what I could tell.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Alan, can you use it to plug in two sets of Lightning earpods or does it only 
work for Earpods and charging?

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Alan Lemly
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Candy, 

I'd recommend the Belkin Rockstar lightning adapter and also recommend you get 
it from the Apple online store which has free shipping. It is $40 as Sieghard 
has said and it gives full functionality of the remote and other buttons on the 
earpods. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
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> Hello everyone 
> Could someone please give me a suggestion for the best adapter to allow me to 
> listen to music with earpods and also charge my phone at the same time.  I am 
> using an iPHONE 8.  Thanks in advance.  
> Candy  ,
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RE: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

Do you have Flash on, or at least set to automatic? Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Deidre Muccio
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

I've been wondering about the screen brightness and screen curtain on when 
using the Camera and other scanning type applications. So as I suspected, that 
is not the reason my photos are all turning out to dark! The fact that I 
usually have screen brightness completely off and scan screen curtain on. I 
wonder how I can improve my photos.

Deidre


On Oct 1, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I just did a test using both scene beta and short text.
I tried it with the brightness set to 0, then 100 as well as then turning on 
the screen curtain.
I got pretty much the same results in all cases. I tried to keep my hand in the 
same position, but it is impossible to be absolutely exact which I think 
accounted for some slight variation.
The screen brightness should not effect any camera based app since you are not 
doing anything to cover the camera.
HTH,
Richard




(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Kelby Carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Does anybody know if Seeing AI'S results are affected by the level of
screen brightness? I like to keep mine at 0, but I've noticed the
camera seems to work much better when I turn it up high.

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Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Lois Butterfield]

I will try mine soon and let you know if double works.

Lois

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same 
time


We have a guest room and it's ccanadian thanks-giving next weekend. There 
will be turkey, bread dumplings, red cabbage, all the good german stuff. Our 
local airport code is YYD that should make it easy to book your flight so 
feel free to drop by for a few days and bring it with you *smile*.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Lois Butterfield

Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same 
time


Hi Seigard,

No, I went with an off brand called Sinemax, and it worked fine for me.  I'm 
thinking it would work for double headphones with lightning plugs, because I 
could plug the charging cable and headphones into either one.


If you lived closer, I'd run it over to you.  I don't use it anymore.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same 
time


Hey Lois,

I am just curious as to whether the splitter you have is the Belkin one or a 
different brand. Also, does it allow only for a Lightning headset to be 
connected along with a Lightning cable to charge the phone or can you plug 
in two Lightning headsets? I am curious because there are times when this 
could be a nice feature, for example, if I were on a flight with my wife and 
we both wanted to listen to the same book.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Lois Butterfield

Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 2:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same 
time


Hi Candy,

I have a splitter that enables you to plug in two lightning plugs into the 
phone at the same time.  If you are using the earphones that came with your 
phone with the lightning plug, it would work fine for you.


Write me off list if you want more information on it.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Candy Lowe
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hello everyone
Could someone please give me a suggestion for the best adapter to allow me 
to listen to music with earpods and also charge my phone at the same time.

I am using an iPHONE 8.  Thanks in advance.
Candy  ,

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

[Kelby Carlson]

Yes, I do.


On 10/1/2017 3:45 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:


Hi,

Do you have Flash on, or at least set to automatic? Keith

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Deidre Muccio

*Sent:* Sunday, October 01, 2017 12:58 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

I've been wondering about the screen brightness and screen curtain on 
when using the Camera and other scanning type applications. So as I 
suspected, that is not the reason my photos are all turning out to 
dark! The fact that I usually have screen brightness completely off 
and scan screen curtain on. I wonder how I can improve my photos.


Deidre


On Oct 1, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


I just did a test using both scene beta and short text.

I tried it with the brightness set to 0, then 100 as well as then
turning on the screen curtain.

I got pretty much the same results in all cases. I tried to keep
my hand in the same position, but it is impossible to be
absolutely exact which I think accounted for some slight variation.

The screen brightness should not effect any camera based app since
you are not doing anything to cover the camera.

HTH,

Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)


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Does anybody know if Seeing AI'S results are affected by the
level of
screen brightness? I like to keep mine at 0, but I've noticed the
camera seems to work much better when I turn it up high.

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RE: text message sounds don't play on locked screen

[M. Taylor]

Hello Jan,

I wonder if what you describe is a VoiceOver bug or a system bug.  Have you 
tried receiving a text message when VoiceOver is disabled and the screen is 
locked?  If so, did your text message alert sound occur?  

Regardless, I am so sorry this is happening to you.  We all have come so much 
to depend on our phones and, when a core function is disrupted, even for a 
short time, it can have a tremendous affect on our day-to-day routine.

TO THE ENTIRE GROUP:

Is what Jan has described a known bug?  If so, is it limited to iPhone 6, only? 
 

I'm assuming it is, otherwise, I'm certain I would have read more about it, on 
this list, from the many 6 S users in our community.  

All kind and gracious replies, appreciated.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jan Stirbens
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 2:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: text message sounds don't play on locked screen

Hello,

I am using an iPhone 6 with the latest iPhone software installed.  When I have 
my screen locked, and I receive a text message, I hear no text message sound.  
I have gone into notifications and locked screen is on.  My problem started 
after I upgraded.  If my screen is unlocked, my text message sounds work just 
fine.

Any suggestions is appreciated.

Jan

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RE: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, unless you take a picture of yourself to train Seeing AI to recognize you. 
In that case you can switch to the front camera for taking the picture, but the 
actual person recognition is via the back camera which is why screen brightness 
or screen curtain make absolutely no difference.
I just tried it with screen curtain on and it works fine and the brightness 
level has no influence either.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelby Carlson
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 12:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness


>From what I understand you still need to use the back facing camera for the 
>"person" function, at least that is always how I have had to do it.

On 10/1/2017 1:15 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Unless you had turned the phone around so the back was facing you, you were 
using the front facing camera. Apparently screen brightness does interfere with 
that one. I, like others, assumed you were using the back camera for something 
like short text, etc.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Kelby Carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I tried the "person" setting. When my brightness was at 0, it would
say "no people detected" but when I put it at 100 it described my
face.

On 10/1/17, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I just did a test using both scene beta and short text.
I tried it with the brightness set to 0, then 100 as well as then turning on
the screen curtain.
I got pretty much the same results in all cases. I tried to keep my hand in
the same position, but it is impossible to be absolutely exact which I think
accounted for some slight variation.
The screen brightness should not effect any camera based app since you are
not doing anything to cover the camera.
HTH,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Kelby Carlson
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>>
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Does anybody know if Seeing AI'S results are affected by the level of
screen brightness? I like to keep mine at 0, but I've noticed the
camera seems to work much better when I turn it up high.

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Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Candy Lowe]

thank you guys so much for the help. I will definitely purchase the Belkin 
rockstar.

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Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11

[Chris Chaffin]

Dave, have you tried using the braille screen input keyboard to look up apps?  
It works just like the handwriting but uses braille instead.
On your home screen switch your rotor to the braille screen input keyboard.
Now just start typing in the name of the app you are looking for.  I normally 
only type 2 or 3 letters.
Holding your phone in away mode, mute switch at top, screen facing away, just 
flick up with one finger to move from app to app.
To activate the app your on, swipe 2 fingers from left to right, again, phone 
in away mode.  The braille screen will then go away and the app will load.

Hope this helps!

Chris


> On Oct 1, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Dave Bahr  wrote:
> 
> No, haven’t tried the status bar thing so will give that a try. Yes, I use it 
> to find apps on the phone. Um, if I used handwriting, wouldn’t I need to know 
> how to write in print? Maybe that’s a dumb question but I’ve never used it 
> and all I can do in print is sign my name at best, but I can do about 60 wpm 
> in braille, or used to. 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:24:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11
>  
> Hi David,
>  
> Have you tried to touch an item in the status bar like the time and then do a 
> double tap?
> Do you use it to find apps on your phone? Why not use handwriting, it is much 
> faster and works great.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dave Bahr
> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 7:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11
>  
> Hmmm, guess I should have explained this better. The search field shows up 
> occasionally. However, when I wrote the message I did, when I would do the 
> 3-finger swipe down, all voiceover would say is, siri app suggestions, 
> heading. No matter which way I tried to move and scroll pages, I could not 
> get that search box to show up. Unfortunately, sometimes that search box 
> shows up, sometimes it doesn’t. I can’t replicate the issue each time. But 
> when it does happen, i’m stuck with just apps that I’ve used recently, and I 
> can’t search for anything else. This even happened after a reboot. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:18:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11
>  
> Hi Harry,
>  
> Doing a 3-finger swipe to the right when on the main home screen gives you 
> the Today screen. To get to spotlight search you touch any app or folder on 
> any of your home screens and do a 3-finger swipe down.
> Somebody else needs to check this for David, I have already moved on to the 
> iOS 11.1 Public Beta and can’t confirm David’s finding. I guess this tells 
> you something *smile*. In fact, I can recommend the iOS 11.1 public beta to 
> anybody who is half way tech savvy and knows how to install it, I have for 
> the most part only found it to contain improvements when it comes to 
> Voiceover. I won’t explain how you get it since I don’t want anybody to yell 
> at me because they installed it and ran into problems.
> It is not difficult and the information on how to do it is easily found if 
> you Google “How to install iOS public beta”. I assume if you can’t find the 
> instructions on Google you definitely should not attempt to install it.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Bell
> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 6:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: No text field in spotlight search. In Ios 11
>  
> I think the spotlight search is reached by three finger swipe from left to 
> right to reach page 1 of all screens. At the very top is a Search field, 
> which seems to be what you want? 
> Harry
> 
> On 1 Oct 2017, at 13:54, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I've never tried using Siri to ask for a spotlight search. A three finger 
> swipe down in the middle of the screen works every time.
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Oct 1, 2017, at 1:29 AM, Dave Bahr  wrote:
> 
> Hi, maybe this has been covered before, but I can’t get a search box to 
> appear when I ask for spotlight search. All it gives me are siri app 
> suggestions. And when I turn those off, in search, and in lookup, it just 
> says, no items found, and I have no search box to type something in. Anyone 
> lese have this? It’s a royal pain as I use the spotlight a ton. 
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Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Lois Butterfield]

Okay, I did check, and for some reason, it will not put out sound to two
headsets.  You can use either port on the splitter for sound but not both.

I was very happy with mine, and I think it cost between $15 and $20 on
Amazon.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message- 
From: Lois Butterfield

Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 3:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same 
time


I will try mine soon and let you know if double works.

Lois

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same
time

We have a guest room and it's ccanadian thanks-giving next weekend. There
will be turkey, bread dumplings, red cabbage, all the good german stuff. Our
local airport code is YYD that should make it easy to book your flight so
feel free to drop by for a few days and bring it with you *smile*.

-Original Message-
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Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same
time

Hi Seigard,

No, I went with an off brand called Sinemax, and it worked fine for me.  I'm
thinking it would work for double headphones with lightning plugs, because I
could plug the charging cable and headphones into either one.

If you lived closer, I'd run it over to you.  I don't use it anymore.

Take care,
Lois

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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same
time

Hey Lois,

I am just curious as to whether the splitter you have is the Belkin one or a
different brand. Also, does it allow only for a Lightning headset to be
connected along with a Lightning cable to charge the phone or can you plug
in two Lightning headsets? I am curious because there are times when this
could be a nice feature, for example, if I were on a flight with my wife and
we both wanted to listen to the same book.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 2:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same
time

Hi Candy,

I have a splitter that enables you to plug in two lightning plugs into the
phone at the same time.  If you are using the earphones that came with your
phone with the lightning plug, it would work fine for you.

Write me off list if you want more information on it.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Candy Lowe
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hello everyone
Could someone please give me a suggestion for the best adapter to allow me
to listen to music with earpods and also charge my phone at the same time.
I am using an iPHONE 8.  Thanks in advance.
Candy  ,

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Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

[Kelby Carlson]

Well, I have done the same thing and it definitely makes a difference on 
my phone.



On 10/1/2017 3:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Yes, unless you take a picture of yourself to train Seeing AI to 
recognize you. In that case you can switch to the front camera for 
taking the picture, but the actual person recognition is via the back 
camera which is why screen brightness or screen curtain make 
absolutely no difference.


I just tried it with screen curtain on and it works fine and the 
brightness level has no influence either.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Kelby Carlson

*Sent:* Sunday, October 1, 2017 12:22 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner 


*Subject:* Re: Seeing AI and Screen Brightness

From what I understand you still need to use the back facing camera 
for the "person" function, at least that is always how I have had to 
do it.


On 10/1/2017 1:15 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Unless you had turned the phone around so the back was facing you,
you were using the front facing camera. Apparently screen
brightness does interfere with that one. I, like others, assumed
you were using the back camera for something like short text, etc.

Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)


On Oct 1, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Kelby Carlson mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I tried the "person" setting. When my brightness was at 0, it
would
say "no people detected" but when I put it at 100 it described my
face.

On 10/1/17, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I just did a test using both scene beta and short text.

I tried it with the brightness set to 0, then 100 as well
as then turning on

the screen curtain.

I got pretty much the same results in all cases. I tried
to keep my hand in

the same position, but it is impossible to be absolutely
exact which I think

accounted for some slight variation.

The screen brightness should not effect any camera based
app since you are

not doing anything to cover the camera.

HTH,

Richard

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Kelby Carlson

mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Does anybody know if Seeing AI'S results are affected by
the level of

screen brightness? I like to keep mine at 0, but I've
noticed the

camera seems to work much better when I turn it up high.

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Apple watch and marital harmony?

[Harry Bell]

If anyone on the list wears their apple watch in bed at night, how do you 
manage to track sleep, check time but not have VoiceOver wake up your partner? 
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RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Same as what Keith said about the Belkin, I wonder why this is so difficult on 
an iPhone.

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Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Okay, I did check, and for some reason, it will not put out sound to two 
headsets.  You can use either port on the splitter for sound but not both.

I was very happy with mine, and I think it cost between $15 and $20 on Amazon.

Take care,
Lois

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From: Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 3:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

I will try mine soon and let you know if double works.

Lois

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Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

We have a guest room and it's ccanadian thanks-giving next weekend. There will 
be turkey, bread dumplings, red cabbage, all the good german stuff. Our local 
airport code is YYD that should make it easy to book your flight so feel free 
to drop by for a few days and bring it with you *smile*.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hi Seigard,

No, I went with an off brand called Sinemax, and it worked fine for me.  I'm 
thinking it would work for double headphones with lightning plugs, because I 
could plug the charging cable and headphones into either one.

If you lived closer, I'd run it over to you.  I don't use it anymore.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hey Lois,

I am just curious as to whether the splitter you have is the Belkin one or a 
different brand. Also, does it allow only for a Lightning headset to be 
connected along with a Lightning cable to charge the phone or can you plug in 
two Lightning headsets? I am curious because there are times when this could be 
a nice feature, for example, if I were on a flight with my wife and we both 
wanted to listen to the same book.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 2:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hi Candy,

I have a splitter that enables you to plug in two lightning plugs into the 
phone at the same time.  If you are using the earphones that came with your 
phone with the lightning plug, it would work fine for you.

Write me off list if you want more information on it.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Candy Lowe
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hello everyone
Could someone please give me a suggestion for the best adapter to allow me to 
listen to music with earpods and also charge my phone at the same time.
I am using an iPHONE 8.  Thanks in advance.
Candy  ,

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Apple watch and marital harmony?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

When my wife sleeps I could play my Apple Watch time announcement via a 
bluetooth speaker at 80% volume and it would not wake her up. But I guess 
that's not everybody. Two choices:
1. Use taptic time telling so you get the time via vibrations
2. Turn Voiceover volume way down so you can hear it if you hold the Apple 
Watch near your head but so it's not loud enough to wake somebody else. Even 
though my wife usually sleeps very deeply, I usually still turn down the volume 
so it's reasonably quiet more so because the double tap when the watch is 
locked to start the vibrations for the time isn't always successful and 
sometimes the watch wakes up anyways.


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If anyone on the list wears their apple watch in bed at night, how do you 
manage to track sleep, check time but not have VoiceOver wake up your partner? 
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items for sale

[Lois Butterfield]

Hi all,

I Have some little things for sale with Mark’s permission.

Two Lightning to 3.5 mm adapters $5. each,
Pink Smart cover for IPad $20,
Simenmax splitter for charging and listening with headphones simultaneously, 
both lightning plugs $10,
ILuv IPad case with built-in bluetooth keyboard, $20,
Earpods with lightning plug only used to test with splitter, $10.

All of these things have been used very little.  I have gone to wireless 
charging and am trading my IPad 2 back to Amazon.  I rarely used it, 
unfortunately.

If interested in any of these items, please e-mail me off list at 
lbutterfield...@gmail.com.

Take care,
Lois

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Ringtones

[sharon mace]

Hi,
I am not sure if someone had asked this before and I just missed an
answer, but all my ringtones are missing from my iPhone since I
upgraded to ios 11. I do not see anywhere in the new iTunes to put
them back on my phone. Can someone tell me how I would go about doing
this? Thanks for any help.

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Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Lois Butterfield]

I don't know, but the funny thing was, I plugged lightning headphones into
an IPhone 6S, and they worked.  I was surprised.

By the way, I'd love to visit up there someday.  I'm sure it's beautiful
country.  If you ever feel like visiting an oven like Florida, let me know.
You'd be welcome.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same 
time


Same as what Keith said about the Belkin, I wonder why this is so difficult 
on an iPhone.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Lois Butterfield

Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same 
time


Okay, I did check, and for some reason, it will not put out sound to two 
headsets.  You can use either port on the splitter for sound but not both.


I was very happy with mine, and I think it cost between $15 and $20 on 
Amazon.


Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 3:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same 
time


I will try mine soon and let you know if double works.

Lois

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same 
time


We have a guest room and it's ccanadian thanks-giving next weekend. There 
will be turkey, bread dumplings, red cabbage, all the good german stuff. Our 
local airport code is YYD that should make it easy to book your flight so 
feel free to drop by for a few days and bring it with you *smile*.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Lois Butterfield

Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same 
time


Hi Seigard,

No, I went with an off brand called Sinemax, and it worked fine for me.  I'm 
thinking it would work for double headphones with lightning plugs, because I 
could plug the charging cable and headphones into either one.


If you lived closer, I'd run it over to you.  I don't use it anymore.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same 
time


Hey Lois,

I am just curious as to whether the splitter you have is the Belkin one or a 
different brand. Also, does it allow only for a Lightning headset to be 
connected along with a Lightning cable to charge the phone or can you plug 
in two Lightning headsets? I am curious because there are times when this 
could be a nice feature, for example, if I were on a flight with my wife and 
we both wanted to listen to the same book.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Lois Butterfield

Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 2:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same 
time


Hi Candy,

I have a splitter that enables you to plug in two lightning plugs into the 
phone at the same time.  If you are using the earphones that came with your 
phone with the lightning plug, it would work fine for you.


Write me off list if you want more information on it.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Candy Lowe
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hello everyone
Could someone please give me a suggestion for the best adapter to allow me 
to listen to music with earpods and also charge my phone at the same time.

I am using an iPHONE 8.  Thanks in advance.
Candy  ,

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Lois,

Lightning Earpods work even on a 5S, anything with a Lightning port. When the 
7/7 Plus came out last year and Apple started selling Lightning Earpods because 
of course there is no more 3.5mm port I bought a set just because I was curious 
whether they sound better. I have a 6S Plus and if I'm not worried about 
charging I do use them. They are in my night table and sometimes I might forget 
my 3.5mm Earpods at work or they are in my jacket pocket and I'm too lazy to 
get them and then I use the Lightning Earpods. They are of course fine, but I 
don't think they sound different and I don't like using them when the phone is 
in my belt case because I have a leather belt holster from Roots which I like a 
lot. Instead of having a full flap which covers the phone it just has a wide 
strap with magnetic closure which is right in the middle, it leaves the 3.5mm 
port open so I can easily plug in these Earpods, but it covers the Lightning 
port. If I lift up the this flap the bottom quarter or so of the screen is 
exposed so I can actually unlock with Touch Id and get to the apps in the dock 
and the bottom row of the home screen, if I pull the phone out just a bit 
enough of the screen is available to do some gestures and I really like that. 
The holster is large enough so my 6S Plus which is in a slim case fits in, but 
it's a very snug fit with lots of friction so I can pull it part way out and it 
doesn't slide back down because of that.

Maybe one day I'll get to Florida, I'm an outdoorsy guy and wouldn't mind 
visiting the Everglades, but until America gets rid of Trump I won't set foot 
in it, sorry, but I can't stand the guy.
Up here it's sunny with blue sky today but it's only around 50 Fahrenheit as a 
high, at night it gets to the low 30's with a bit of frost, and tomorrow night 
it's supposed to go down to around 25, but then back up to around 60 during the 
day by mid week but still 30 degrees less at night. There is a fresh dusting of 
snow on our 8,500 foot mountain that's right next to town, it looks quite 
pretty right now as there are still plenty of yellow leaves on the trees, also 
lots of evergreens here with the snowy mountain and blue sky above it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

I don't know, but the funny thing was, I plugged lightning headphones into an 
IPhone 6S, and they worked.  I was surprised.

By the way, I'd love to visit up there someday.  I'm sure it's beautiful 
country.  If you ever feel like visiting an oven like Florida, let me know.
You'd be welcome.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Same as what Keith said about the Belkin, I wonder why this is so difficult on 
an iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Okay, I did check, and for some reason, it will not put out sound to two 
headsets.  You can use either port on the splitter for sound but not both.

I was very happy with mine, and I think it cost between $15 and $20 on Amazon.

Take care,
Lois

-Original Message-
From: Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 3:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

I will try mine soon and let you know if double works.

Lois

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

We have a guest room and it's ccanadian thanks-giving next weekend. There will 
be turkey, bread dumplings, red cabbage, all the good german stuff. Our local 
airport code is YYD that should make it easy to book your flight so feel free 
to drop by for a few days and bring it with you *smile*.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adapter for charging and listening with headphones at the same time

Hi Seigard,

No, I went with an off brand called Sinemax, and it worked fine for me.  I'm 
thinking it would work for double headphones with lightning plugs, because I 
could plug the charging cable and headphones into either one.

If you lived closer, I'd run it over to you.  I don't use it anymore.

Take care,
Lois

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Re: Ringtones

[Donna Neff]

It’s easy – go to sounds and haptics. New the beginning of the list of options, 
there is a link to download the ringtones that work on your old phone.

Hope this helps.

Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2017, at 2:27 PM, sharon mace  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am not sure if someone had asked this before and I just missed an
> answer, but all my ringtones are missing from my iPhone since I
> upgraded to ios 11. I do not see anywhere in the new iTunes to put
> them back on my phone. Can someone tell me how I would go about doing
> this? Thanks for any help.
> 
> Sharon
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RE: Ringtones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sharon,

There is no tones library any more in the media section, only when your phone 
is connected in the device section.
Here is what you do:
1. Connect your phone and open iTunes.
2. Find the "iPhone" button and activate it.
3. Use F6 or tab to get into the treeview where you will be on the "Summary" tab
4. Type "T O" and it will go down to "Tones", it could be the last item or if 
not near the bottom of the treeview, but first letter navigation works.
5. Tab a few times until you are in the list of tones.
6. If you want to add a tone go to where you have it saved on your computer, I 
assume you are using Windows. Simply copy the tone with Control+C, go back to 
iTunes and your list of tones and paste it there with Control+V.

If you want to delete tones you have to tab a lot when you are on the Summary 
tab and check the "manually manage videos and songs" or something like that. 
You can add tones if you leave this unchecked, but only if you check this you 
can simply press delete on a tone and it will be removed from your phone.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
sharon mace
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ringtones

Hi,
I am not sure if someone had asked this before and I just missed an answer, but 
all my ringtones are missing from my iPhone since I upgraded to ios 11. I do 
not see anywhere in the new iTunes to put them back on my phone. Can someone 
tell me how I would go about doing this? Thanks for any help.

Sharon

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RE: Ringtones

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks for this, Sieghard. Would this work for a folder of ringtones, too? Or, 
does one need to transfer 1 tone at a time? Thanks in advance, Keith

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 5:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ringtones

Hi Sharon,

There is no tones library any more in the media section, only when your phone 
is connected in the device section.
Here is what you do:
1. Connect your phone and open iTunes.
2. Find the "iPhone" button and activate it.
3. Use F6 or tab to get into the treeview where you will be on the "Summary" 
tab 4. Type "T O" and it will go down to "Tones", it could be the last item or 
if not near the bottom of the treeview, but first letter navigation works.
5. Tab a few times until you are in the list of tones.
6. If you want to add a tone go to where you have it saved on your computer, I 
assume you are using Windows. Simply copy the tone with Control+C, go back to 
iTunes and your list of tones and paste it there with Control+V.

If you want to delete tones you have to tab a lot when you are on the Summary 
tab and check the "manually manage videos and songs" or something like that. 
You can add tones if you leave this unchecked, but only if you check this you 
can simply press delete on a tone and it will be removed from your phone.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
sharon mace
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ringtones

Hi,
I am not sure if someone had asked this before and I just missed an answer, but 
all my ringtones are missing from my iPhone since I upgraded to ios 11. I do 
not see anywhere in the new iTunes to put them back on my phone. Can someone 
tell me how I would go about doing this? Thanks for any help.

Sharon

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Question for Talking Tuner users

[Karen Poulakos]

I seem to have a problem with accidently changing the sound settings.  Right
now my problem is with the one labeled "current sound level."  I can't seem
to get it to 3.0  Every time I touch it, it changes, ranging from 0 point
something to 2.4. I can't figure out whether to flick up or down.  Because
no matter which direction I flick, it will change both directions, but will
not go back up to 3.0.

 

Any suggestions for fixing it?  Is there a way to stop it from accidently
changing?  Does anyone else have this problem, or is it just me?  I really
love this app, but sometimes it just doesn't cooperate.

 

Thanks.

 

Karen P, who is, at the moment, very frustrated.

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RE: text message sounds don't play on locked screen

[Vicky Collins]

I'm afraid I'm not going to be much help.  But, on my iPhone 6S 
running iOS 11.0.1, I've had no problems with hearing my text 
message sound when the screen is locked.  It, as well as other 
notification sounds for other apps, plays as expected.

- Original Message -
From: "M.  Taylor" I wonder if what you describe is a VoiceOver bug or a system bug.  
Have you tried receiving a text message when VoiceOver is 
disabled and the screen is locked?  If so, did your text message 
alert sound occur?


Regardless, I am so sorry this is happening to you.  We all have 
come so much to depend on our phones and, when a core function is 
disrupted, even for a short time, it can have a tremendous affect 
on our day-to-day routine.


TO THE ENTIRE GROUP:

Is what Jan has described a known bug?  If so, is it limited to 
iPhone 6, only?


I'm assuming it is, otherwise, I'm certain I would have read more 
about it, on this list, from the many 6 S users in our community.


All kind and gracious replies, appreciated.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jan Stirbens

Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 2:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: text message sounds don't play on locked screen

Hello,

I am using an iPhone 6 with the latest iPhone software installed.  
When I have my screen locked, and I receive a text message, I 
hear no text message sound.  I have gone into notifications and 
locked screen is on.  My problem started after I upgraded.  If my 
screen is unlocked, my text message sounds work just fine.


Any suggestions is appreciated.

Jan

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RE: Ringtones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Haven't tried it with a folder, but it might. I would just try it, I doubt it 
will hurt, either nothing happens or they all get added.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 3:34 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: RE: Ringtones

Thanks for this, Sieghard. Would this work for a folder of ringtones, too? Or, 
does one need to transfer 1 tone at a time? Thanks in advance, Keith

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 5:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ringtones

Hi Sharon,

There is no tones library any more in the media section, only when your phone 
is connected in the device section.
Here is what you do:
1. Connect your phone and open iTunes.
2. Find the "iPhone" button and activate it.
3. Use F6 or tab to get into the treeview where you will be on the "Summary" 
tab 4. Type "T O" and it will go down to "Tones", it could be the last item or 
if not near the bottom of the treeview, but first letter navigation works.
5. Tab a few times until you are in the list of tones.
6. If you want to add a tone go to where you have it saved on your computer, I 
assume you are using Windows. Simply copy the tone with Control+C, go back to 
iTunes and your list of tones and paste it there with Control+V.

If you want to delete tones you have to tab a lot when you are on the Summary 
tab and check the "manually manage videos and songs" or something like that. 
You can add tones if you leave this unchecked, but only if you check this you 
can simply press delete on a tone and it will be removed from your phone.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
sharon mace
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ringtones

Hi,
I am not sure if someone had asked this before and I just missed an answer, but 
all my ringtones are missing from my iPhone since I upgraded to ios 11. I do 
not see anywhere in the new iTunes to put them back on my phone. Can someone 
tell me how I would go about doing this? Thanks for any help.

Sharon

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Re: Question for Talking Tuner users

[Richard Turner]

It seems to adjust based on how loud the sound is.
I just whistled right into the microphone and it went from 2.4 to 3.0.
Double tapping on it just jumps around like you said.
HTH,
Richard


On Oct 1, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Karen Poulakos 
mailto:ka...@poulakos.com>> wrote:

I seem to have a problem with accidently changing the sound settings.  Right 
now my problem is with the one labeled "current sound level."  I can't seem to 
get it to 3.0  Every time I touch it, it changes, ranging from 0 point 
something to 2.4. I can't figure out whether to flick up or down.  Because no 
matter which direction I flick, it will change both directions, but will not go 
back up to 3.0.

Any suggestions for fixing it?  Is there a way to stop it from accidently 
changing?  Does anyone else have this problem, or is it just me?  I really love 
this app, but sometimes it just doesn't cooperate.

Thanks.

Karen P, who is, at the moment, very frustrated.

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RE: Sennheiser HD 4.40BT constant beeping

[Chip Orange]

I have had the same issue with my LG headset.  It seems to get better when you 
turn the volume down quite a bit, and I thought it may be related to a setting 
my LG has where if it thinks the volume is higher than normal, it gives you a 
special beep when you adjust the volume level to high.  It’s sesigned to warn 
you that you may have your volume set at an unsafe level.

 

My theory was that with VoiceOver, if you have AutoDucking enabled, then each 
time you do any VO jesture it will automatically lower the system volume so 
that it can read you the results of your VO jesture, then it will automatically 
return the volume to its previous level (which I think was triggering the 
safety beep on my LG headset when the previous level was anything other than 
moderately low).

 

I haven’t spent enough time playing around with AutoDucking to see if this 
really plays out or not, but it’s something we should write to Apple 
Accessibility about.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Malyszka
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 5:29 AM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Sennheiser HD 4.40BT constant beeping

 

Hi everyone, I just received a set of Sennheiser HD 4.40 BT headphones, paired 
them with my iPhone running iOS 11.0.1 and they sound great. The problem is 
there is constant beeping when using VoiceOver. It is as through I was 
constantly pressing a button on the cup of the headphones - beep beep beep - 
when navigating around the screen with swipes. Does anyone know how to turn 
this off?

 

Thanks much!

 

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RE: how to get the iPhone to go from ear piece to speaker when on a call

[Chip Orange]

This is controlled however by a setting in VoiceOver/Audio settings.  I have 
mine disabled because just my normal head movements will often cause it to 
constantly switch between ear piece and speaker, and it causes anyone I’m 
talking with to drop out for a fraction of a second, and they also lose me for 
a bit.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to get the iPhone to go from ear piece to speaker when on a 
call

 

When you move the phone away from your face the sensors will pick it up and it 
will go to speaker automatically and when you move the phone back to your face 
the phone will go to the earpiece automatically hope this helps God bless 
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8!!!


On Sep 30, 2017, at 7:26 PM, Casey  wrote:

Hi how do you set your iPhone to when you take it away from you ear while on A 
call to have it switch over to speaker phone?

And then back again to ear piece when you put it back up to your ear?

 

 

 

 

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RE: blindsquare Not Reliably Announcing Intersections or Places of Interest

[Chip Orange]

I suppose something might be interfearing with your GPS signal  such that it 
doesn’t quite have your positional correct.

 

Chip

 

 

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Richard Petty
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: blindsquare Not Reliably Announcing Intersections or Places of 
Interest

 

For this particular problem, I’m wondering if the cause is something other than 
the maps in use. For me, intersections and points of interest are voiced under 
certain circumstances. For example, when focus is placed on the “Accuracy” 
item. The information is there, it’s just not being voiced. No doubt the app 
would also be better with better maps.

 

 

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Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: blindsquare Not Reliably Announcing Intersections or Places of 
Interest

 

Richard,

 

I have never been a fan of Blind Square because they use “free data maps” for 
their intersection locations, and in my area at least, these free maps are 
quite inaccurate.  Perhaps if you can convince them to purchase map data this 
problem will also correct itself, as it may be that Blind Square isn’t 
detecting that you are in an intersection as you pass through due to map errors?

 

Chip

 

 

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Richard Petty
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blindsquare Not Reliably Announcing Intersections or Places of Interest

 

I have noticed that Blindsquare will not reliably announce intersections or 
places of interest. While traveling in a vehicle, even at a crawl in traffic, 
it will fail to make announcements. Shaking the phone after start up to secure 
a present location seems to cause it to subsequently make announcements. Also, 
swiping down to the Accuracy item and leaving the app with that item 
highlighted will cause Blindsquare to speak locations. Of course, that means 
the location announcements are cluttered with the accuracy announcements, which 
are spoken often. 

 

This failure to announce locations seems independent of vehicle speed, although 
it does seem to happen less often while walking, so speed may be a factor, but 
my vehicle experiences have also occurred at low speeds. In other words, it 
seems to occur at any speed beyond a fast walk—and occasionally fails while 
walking.

 

Information is still valuable while traveling in a vehicle, so it would be nice 
to find a solution.

 

Is there a setting I’ve overlooked that would solve this? Thanks so much.

 

Richard Petty

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RE: blindsquare Not Reliably Announcing Intersections or Places of Interest

[Chip Orange]

Yes, I think Nearby Explorer from APH is far superior to Blind Square, however, 
it is relatively more expensive at around $80 the last time I looked.  Still, 
this price is much better than that of the Seeing Eye app from Sendero Group.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelby Carlson
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Petty
Subject: Re: blindsquare Not Reliably Announcing Intersections or Places of 
Interest

 

Is there another app that does a similar sort of thing? I haven't found 
anything that compares.

 

On 9/30/2017 5:37 PM, Richard Petty wrote:

For this particular problem, I’m wondering if the cause is something other than 
the maps in use. For me, intersections and points of interest are voiced under 
certain circumstances. For example, when focus is placed on the “Accuracy” 
item. The information is there, it’s just not being voiced. No doubt the app 
would also be better with better maps.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: blindsquare Not Reliably Announcing Intersections or Places of 
Interest

 

Richard,

 

I have never been a fan of Blind Square because they use “free data maps” for 
their intersection locations, and in my area at least, these free maps are 
quite inaccurate.  Perhaps if you can convince them to purchase map data this 
problem will also correct itself, as it may be that Blind Square isn’t 
detecting that you are in an intersection as you pass through due to map errors?

 

Chip

 

 

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Richard Petty
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blindsquare Not Reliably Announcing Intersections or Places of Interest

 

I have noticed that Blindsquare will not reliably announce intersections or 
places of interest. While traveling in a vehicle, even at a crawl in traffic, 
it will fail to make announcements. Shaking the phone after start up to secure 
a present location seems to cause it to subsequently make announcements. Also, 
swiping down to the Accuracy item and leaving the app with that item 
highlighted will cause Blindsquare to speak locations. Of course, that means 
the location announcements are cluttered with the accuracy announcements, which 
are spoken often. 

 

This failure to announce locations seems independent of vehicle speed, although 
it does seem to happen less often while walking, so speed may be a factor, but 
my vehicle experiences have also occurred at low speeds. In other words, it 
seems to occur at any speed beyond a fast walk—and occasionally fails while 
walking.

 

Information is still valuable while traveling in a vehicle, so it would be nice 
to find a solution.

 

Is there a setting I’ve overlooked that would solve this? Thanks so much.

 

Richard Petty

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RE: OT a question about tivo

[Chip Orange]

I could not get mine to work at all, but I haven’t followed up with TiVo 
support yet (no time).

 

Chip

 

 

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Dana
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: OT a question about tivo

 

I hope this is ok to post. I have a question about tivo if anyone has used it 
with the talking remote.

Our cable provider came out today as they don’t have talking cable boxes, but 
he told me they could put our cable card in to a tivo box and we found out tivo 
has screen reading capability so wondered if anyone has used it and if it works 
well?

Thanks

Dana

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RE: Question for Talking Tuner users

[Karen Poulakos]

I read in  Help and Support that the default is 3.0.  But, it doesn't give 
directions for the best way to adjust it.  I got it to 2.4, and when I touched 
it again, it droped down again. 

 

Karen P

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question for Talking Tuner users

 

 

It seems to adjust based on how loud the sound is.

I just whistled right into the microphone and it went from 2.4 to 3.0.

Double tapping on it just jumps around like you said.

HTH,

Richard

 


On Oct 1, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

I seem to have a problem with accidently changing the sound settings.  Right 
now my problem is with the one labeled "current sound level."  I can't seem to 
get it to 3.0  Every time I touch it, it changes, ranging from 0 point 
something to 2.4. I can't figure out whether to flick up or down.  Because no 
matter which direction I flick, it will change both directions, but will not go 
back up to 3.0.

 

Any suggestions for fixing it?  Is there a way to stop it from accidently 
changing?  Does anyone else have this problem, or is it just me?  I really love 
this app, but sometimes it just doesn't cooperate.

 

Thanks.

 

Karen P, who is, at the moment, very frustrated.

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Re: Question for Talking Tuner users

[Richard Turner]

Right. Mine was low as well. But, if I whistled loudly into the microphone, it 
jumped up. The threshold is 3.4 which is the field just after the current level.
Richard


On Oct 1, 2017, at 5:19 PM, Karen Poulakos 
mailto:ka...@poulakos.com>> wrote:

I read in  Help and Support that the default is 3.0.  But, it doesn't give 
directions for the best way to adjust it.  I got it to 2.4, and when I touched 
it again, it droped down again.

Karen P

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question for Talking Tuner users


It seems to adjust based on how loud the sound is.
I just whistled right into the microphone and it went from 2.4 to 3.0.
Double tapping on it just jumps around like you said.
HTH,
Richard


On Oct 1, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Karen Poulakos 
mailto:ka...@poulakos.com>> wrote:
I seem to have a problem with accidently changing the sound settings.  Right 
now my problem is with the one labeled "current sound level."  I can't seem to 
get it to 3.0  Every time I touch it, it changes, ranging from 0 point 
something to 2.4. I can't figure out whether to flick up or down.  Because no 
matter which direction I flick, it will change both directions, but will not go 
back up to 3.0.

Any suggestions for fixing it?  Is there a way to stop it from accidently 
changing?  Does anyone else have this problem, or is it just me?  I really love 
this app, but sometimes it just doesn't cooperate.

Thanks.

Karen P, who is, at the moment, very frustrated.
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Hulu with VoiceOver

[jmswiler]

Hi all,
I am not having much consistent luck working with Hulu and VoiceOver since the 
latest update to my 4th generation Apple TV nor on my iPhone 8 plus with iOS 
11. What in the world is going on? It reads the categories and the shows as I 
scroll through when on Apple TV, but when I try to click on something, nothing 
happens. Also, on iPhone I can’t even get past the list of subcategories by 
double-tapping. Any ideas?

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Re: locked out of voicemail since update

[Marie Lyons]

It was really weird! I couldn’t get anyone except the automated system when I 
called. I took another look and the screen I had been seeing was no longer 
there and it seemed to be back to normal.

Marie Lyons
> On Oct 1, 2017, at 2:46 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Marie,
> 
> I was just wondering if you were ever able to get things sorted out with your 
> voicemail password?  
> 
> Did you contact your wireless provider for assistance?  
> 
> In the old days, one's initial voicemail password was the last 4 digits of 
> the phone number associated with the account.  
> 
> Let us know what happened or what happens, okay?  
> 
> Mark 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Marie Lyons
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: locked out of voicemail since update
> 
> 0.1 and Now I need a password to get my voicemail. Has anyone else seen this? 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Marie LyonsOn Wednesday I updated to 11
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RE: Hulu with VoiceOver

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Somebody posted something a few weeks ago that the latest Hulu update on the 
iPhone at least for the most part made it inaccessible. As a subscriber you 
should complain to them.

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Subject: Hulu with VoiceOver

Hi all,
I am not having much consistent luck working with Hulu and VoiceOver since the 
latest update to my 4th generation Apple TV nor on my iPhone 8 plus with iOS 
11. What in the world is going on? It reads the categories and the shows as I 
scroll through when on Apple TV, but when I try to click on something, nothing 
happens. Also, on iPhone I can’t even get past the list of subcategories by 
double-tapping. Any ideas?

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Re: Ringtones

[Sharon Mace]

 
 

 Thanks for the reply I will give that a try Sharon
 

 
 

 
 
>  
> On Oct 1, 2017 at 5:19 PM,  mailto:siegh...@live.ca)>  
> wrote:
>  
>  
>  
>  Hi Sharon, There is no tones library any more in the media section, only 
> when your phone is connected in the device section. Here is what you do: 1. 
> Connect your phone and open iTunes. 2. Find the "iPhone" button and activate 
> it. 3. Use F6 or tab to get into the treeview where you will be on the 
> "Summary" tab 4. Type "T O" and it will go down to "Tones", it could be the 
> last item or if not near the bottom of the treeview, but first letter 
> navigation works. 5. Tab a few times until you are in the list of tones. 6. 
> If you want to add a tone go to where you have it saved on your computer, I 
> assume you are using Windows. Simply copy the tone with Control+C, go back to 
> iTunes and your list of tones and paste it there with Control+V. If you want 
> to delete tones you have to tab a lot when you are on the Summary tab and 
> check the "manually manage videos and songs" or something like that. You can 
> add tones if you leave this unchecked, but only if you check this you can 
> simply press delete 
on  a tone and it will be removed from your phone. -Original Message- 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Ringtones Hi, I am not sure if someone had asked this before and I 
just missed an answer, but all my ringtones are missing from my iPhone since I 
upgraded to ios 11. I do not see anywhere in the new iTunes to put them back on 
my phone. Can someone tell me how I would go about doing this? Thanks for any 
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Re: Interesting Finding in Fidelity iOS App With Account Numbers

[Kelly Pierce]

I like this implementation a lot.  It avoids reading the account
number as 7 quadrillion followed by a number in the hundreds of
millions and so forth.  Reading numbers this way is nearly impossible
for a screen reader user to comprehend. Most of the time, the user
simply needs to hear the account number to choose it for a particular
transaction, such as a trading account for a stock purchase or a cash
management account for a bill payment. A small number of blind end
users would need to write down the account number.  For these
instances, VoiceOver users can change VoiceOver in the rotor to read
by word so it can read number by number.

This implementation is an example of designing according to what blind
end users need rather than designing a mobile application according to
an artificial standard created by a committee in an airless conference
room that was not familiar with this particular end use. It reminds me
of accessible architecture. Designing to the exact ADA standards
delivers much less optimal access compared to designing in a slightly
different way that sill meets ADA guidelines.

Kelly




On 9/30/17, KellyFord  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I use the Fidelity app on my iPhone relatively often to manage some
> financial matters.  That said, on the account screen I rarely read my
> actual
> account numbers digit by digit.  However today I was filling out a form and
> needed to copy the account number so started to read the number character
> by
> character.  That is when I made an interesting discovery.
>
>
>
> Fidelity appears to have constructed the account numbers for accessibility
> purposes with words instead of digits.  For example if my account number is
> 123456, what Fidelity actually puts in place are the words one, two, three,
> four, five and six  separated by spaces for the account number.  So if you
> start reading by character, you are stepping through letters of each word,
> not the digits.
>
>
>
> I suspect this was done to not have the account numbers spoken as a long
> complex number when using general item navigation to next item.  If you
> simply read with the VoiceOver default, the result is that the account
> number is spoken as separate digits i.e. one next item gesture would read
> one, two, three, four, five, six.  If digits were used, VoiceOver would try
> and read the number as one hundred twenty three thousand four hundred fifty
> six.  This would be even more confusing because immediately after the
> account number is the balance.
>
>
>
> So I'm curious how people feel about this choice by Fidelity? For the
> general case, they appear to have chosen something that sounds fine but
> clearly if you read by character or braille is less than ideal.
>
>
>
> If you are a user of the Fidelity app, you can experience this by picking
> the account tab, then stepping through the details of any account listed on
> that screen.
>
>
>
> Kelly
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Re: blindsquare Not Reliably Announcing Intersections or Places of Interest

[Kelly Pierce]

Many people pay less than $80.  iTunes gift cards can be found at a 15
to 20 percent discount from face value so the app can be bought for
less than $70.  The price difference reflects the licensing fee for
the downloaded maps.  Mainstream iPhone apps with downloaded maps cost
real money compared to online mapping applications. Nearby Explorer is
useful with out a data connection and Blind Square needs a data
connection to function.

Kelly

On 10/1/17, Chip Orange  wrote:
> Yes, I think Nearby Explorer from APH is far superior to Blind Square,
> however, it is relatively more expensive at around $80 the last time I
> looked.  Still, this price is much better than that of the Seeing Eye app
> from Sendero Group.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 5:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Petty
> Subject: Re: blindsquare Not Reliably Announcing Intersections or Places of
> Interest
>
>
>
> Is there another app that does a similar sort of thing? I haven't found
> anything that compares.
>
>
>
> On 9/30/2017 5:37 PM, Richard Petty wrote:
>
> For this particular problem, I’m wondering if the cause is something other
> than the maps in use. For me, intersections and points of interest are
> voiced under certain circumstances. For example, when focus is placed on the
> “Accuracy” item. The information is there, it’s just not being voiced. No
> doubt the app would also be better with better maps.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 1:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: blindsquare Not Reliably Announcing Intersections or Places of
> Interest
>
>
>
> Richard,
>
>
>
> I have never been a fan of Blind Square because they use “free data maps”
> for their intersection locations, and in my area at least, these free maps
> are quite inaccurate.  Perhaps if you can convince them to purchase map data
> this problem will also correct itself, as it may be that Blind Square isn’t
> detecting that you are in an intersection as you pass through due to map
> errors?
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Petty
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: blindsquare Not Reliably Announcing Intersections or Places of
> Interest
>
>
>
> I have noticed that Blindsquare will not reliably announce intersections or
> places of interest. While traveling in a vehicle, even at a crawl in
> traffic, it will fail to make announcements. Shaking the phone after start
> up to secure a present location seems to cause it to subsequently make
> announcements. Also, swiping down to the Accuracy item and leaving the app
> with that item highlighted will cause Blindsquare to speak locations. Of
> course, that means the location announcements are cluttered with the
> accuracy announcements, which are spoken often.
>
>
>
> This failure to announce locations seems independent of vehicle speed,
> although it does seem to happen less often while walking, so speed may be a
> factor, but my vehicle experiences have also occurred at low speeds. In
> other words, it seems to occur at any speed beyond a fast walk—and
> occasionally fails while walking.
>
>
>
> Information is still valuable while traveling in a vehicle, so it would be
> nice to find a solution.
>
>
>
> Is there a setting I’ve overlooked that would solve this? Thanks so much.
>
>
>
> Richard Petty
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iPhone gets warm after iOS 11 update

[Msolaun]

regarding iOS 11 has anybody noticed, since updating your iPhone gets warm? I 
have an iPhone 6 has mentioned before and for some reason my device gets quite 
warm when in use.

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Inconsistency with app switcher while running voiceover in iOS 11

[Msolaun]

Hello everyone I am using an iPhone 6 with iOS 11. I noticed that when using 
voice over when closing applications using the app switcher, if for some reason 
VoiceOver will act as if an application that you recently closed is still open. 
The focus will not shift to any other open application.

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Re: Apple watch and marital harmony?

[Harry Bell]

Thanks, Sieghard. I like that Taptic time feature! It could save me from being 
booted out of bed!
Harry

> On 1 Oct 2017, at 22:16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> When my wife sleeps I could play my Apple Watch time announcement via a 
> bluetooth speaker at 80% volume and it would not wake her up. But I guess 
> that's not everybody. Two choices:
> 1. Use taptic time telling so you get the time via vibrations
> 2. Turn Voiceover volume way down so you can hear it if you hold the Apple 
> Watch near your head but so it's not loud enough to wake somebody else. Even 
> though my wife usually sleeps very deeply, I usually still turn down the 
> volume so it's reasonably quiet more so because the double tap when the watch 
> is locked to start the vibrations for the time isn't always successful and 
> sometimes the watch wakes up anyways.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Bell
> Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 2:03 PM
> To: Abridged Recipients 
> Subject: Apple watch and marital harmony?
> 
> If anyone on the list wears their apple watch in bed at night, how do you 
> manage to track sleep, check time but not have VoiceOver wake up your 
> partner? 
> Harry
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Two factor authentication Apple

[Marissa Solaun]

So I am curious about 2 factor authentication. I have both an iPhone and iPad, 
and considering turning this feature on. Question being let’s say I were to 
upgrade my iPhone to a newer model how would I receive the code to verify my 
identity to activate my device?

Let’s say I take my iPhone 6 to an AT&T store ( iPad also a trusted device) and 
want to upgrade to an iPhone eight, and have this feature turned on. How 
exactly will the code be sent to my new iPhone? If the number is the same? Or 
do you receive the code on your old device and then just enter it manually on 
your new one?

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Re: How to Stop iOS from Prompting for an Update on your iOS Device

[Msolaun]

So if you tap diageee on the terms and conditions when prompted that a new 
update is available to install you can install the update at a later time ?

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Re: Ringtones

[Msolaun]

I discovered the copy / paste ringtones workaround that sigherd mention when I 
gave up downloading them through iOS itself :)

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RE: How to Stop iOS from Prompting for an Update on your iOS Device

[Alan Lemly]

Yes, I still have an update available under Settings, Software update.

Alan Lemly

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So if you tap diageee on the terms and conditions when prompted that a new 
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The New "Files" App

[Andy Baracco]

After updating to IOS 11 i notice a new app called Files. What does it do?

Andy

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Re: Sennheiser HD 4.40BT constant beeping

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

I dont have any of such issue in any of my Sony and Samsung bt
headsets. However there is considerable delay in getting voice over
feedback while using bt headset even in iOS 11.

On 10/2/17, Chip Orange  wrote:
> I have had the same issue with my LG headset.  It seems to get better when
> you turn the volume down quite a bit, and I thought it may be related to a
> setting my LG has where if it thinks the volume is higher than normal, it
> gives you a special beep when you adjust the volume level to high.  It’s
> sesigned to warn you that you may have your volume set at an unsafe level.
>
>
>
> My theory was that with VoiceOver, if you have AutoDucking enabled, then
> each time you do any VO jesture it will automatically lower the system
> volume so that it can read you the results of your VO jesture, then it will
> automatically return the volume to its previous level (which I think was
> triggering the safety beep on my LG headset when the previous level was
> anything other than moderately low).
>
>
>
> I haven’t spent enough time playing around with AutoDucking to see if this
> really plays out or not, but it’s something we should write to Apple
> Accessibility about.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Bill Malyszka
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 5:29 AM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: Sennheiser HD 4.40BT constant beeping
>
>
>
> Hi everyone, I just received a set of Sennheiser HD 4.40 BT headphones,
> paired them with my iPhone running iOS 11.0.1 and they sound great. The
> problem is there is constant beeping when using VoiceOver. It is as through
> I was constantly pressing a button on the cup of the headphones - beep beep
> beep - when navigating around the screen with swipes. Does anyone know how
> to turn this off?
>
>
>
> Thanks much!
>
>
>
> ...b
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