Re: I went to buy an iPhone X. T-Mobile told me it wasn't worth it - CNET

[Gordon]

And they are so responsive and courteous to us blind users. One day my 
daughter was showing them how to turn speech on and they were so 
interested that all of the store employees gathered around and watched 
and asked questions. so they were well prepared if another blind user 
ever came in that store. We actually had a T-mobile employee reach out 
to us on another list that I'm on because they were working with a blind 
user and wanted to educate themselves so they could better help her.



On 12/4/2017 1:42 AM, lenron brown wrote:

I must say I love T-Mobile. When I had problems with my 6s plus a
couple months ago. They didn't try to force me to upgrade or anything.
They said oh we will do what we can to save you money, and they ended
up replacing my 6s plus with a 7plus 128 gb version. That I will be
done paying off next month because I didn't have to start over.

On 12/4/17, Gordon  wrote:

I've been with T-mobile since 2008 and they've always been like this no
matter if it's a store or a rep over the phone. When I was with At&t
years ago they would always try to sell me something to make more money.
However T-mobile has always found ways to save me money. the reps over
the phone would always look at my account and tell me what I could do to
save money. I had called in one time and ended up saving $22 on my bill
by the time the call ended. And they even gave me the savings back to
when my current cycle started instead of prorating my bill.

On 12/4/2017 12:36 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

I went to buy an iPhone X. T-Mobile told me it wasn't worth it
Commentary: A visit to a T-Mobile store reveals some very particular
feelings about Apple's new phone.
December 3, 2017 9:00 AM PST

Not worth it?
César Salza / CNET
I think of T-Mobile most often when I see it's insulted Verizon and when
I
see someone wear a pink tutu at a party.
Still, it's presented itself very well over the last couple of years as
the
carrier that thinks most about customers, especially with its push toward
unlimited data.
Could it possibly be the store that would guide me toward buying the
right
phone?
Regular readers might know that I've been visiting various retailers to
see
how they present different phones to customers. You know, in person.
I've been to both a Verizon store and a Best Buy to learn about Pixel 2.
In
both cases, I was guided toward a Samsung Galaxy.
I went to an AT&T store, where I was told that the Galaxy Note 8 was a
better phone than the iPhone X.
What would T-Mobile tell me?
I was moved to visit, as the carrier offered a 2-for-1 promotion on the
iPhone 8 last week.
Did this mean that T-Mobile was selling so many iPhone X's that it was
desperate to get rid of the lesser upgrade from last year's phone?
Was iPhone X the phone that would tear me away from my trusty, now
slightly
rusty-looking iPhone 6?
I went to a San Francisco Bay Area T-Mobile store to find out.
It all started well enough
A sprightly salesman approached me as I looked over the iPhone range.
I showed him my iPhone 6. He didn't sneer. This was a good start. Not
everyone looks so kindly on old phones in the Bay Area.
He swiftly dismissed the iPhone 8 as a minor upgrade.
"You've got wireless charging, faster processor and you've got the glass
back. But it's pretty much the same phone as the one you've got," he
said.
"But wait. Don't you have a 2-for-1 promotion going on for these right
now?"
"That ended Monday. We've got a 2-for-1 on the Samsungs, but not on the
8's."
Was this the moment I was going to be told Samsungs were better? Not yet,
it
seemed.
"Oh, so did you have the promotion because you needed to get rid of a lot
of
8's?" I asked.
"No," he replied, a little too quickly. "It was just a promotion."
I then asked him about the iPhone X. He couldn't show me how Face ID
works,
because each phone can only work with one person's face.
He insisted, though, that it was secure. "I think there's a
million-to-one
chance that someone else's face will open your phone," he said.
iPhone X? It's not worth the extra 200 bucks
Then things took a strange turn.
He suddenly volunteered that it took more time to get to all your apps on
the X than it did with the iPhone 8 Plus.
"With the 8 Plus, you just double-click on the home button and, look,
there
they all are," he said. "With iPhone X, it's messier." He showed me how
much
messier, as he made several gestures to achieve the same effect.
So the future of the smartphone takes you back in time, not forward?
"A lot of people aren't buying the X because they miss the home button,"
he
said. "Look, there's not much difference between the X and the 8 Plus.
The
camera's the same, the screen size is almost the same. All the iPhone
people
in this store upgraded to an 8 Plus, not an X."
"Why?"
"Because they didn't think the X was worth the extra 200 bucks."
I confess to being surprised. I've enjoyed the candor of all the
salespeople
I've talked to. But here was one who was trying to sell me what most
people
would tell me is a l

Re: I went to buy an iPhone X. T-Mobile told me it wasn't worth it - CNET

[lenron brown]

I must say I love T-Mobile. When I had problems with my 6s plus a
couple months ago. They didn't try to force me to upgrade or anything.
They said oh we will do what we can to save you money, and they ended
up replacing my 6s plus with a 7plus 128 gb version. That I will be
done paying off next month because I didn't have to start over.

On 12/4/17, Gordon  wrote:
> I've been with T-mobile since 2008 and they've always been like this no
> matter if it's a store or a rep over the phone. When I was with At&t
> years ago they would always try to sell me something to make more money.
> However T-mobile has always found ways to save me money. the reps over
> the phone would always look at my account and tell me what I could do to
> save money. I had called in one time and ended up saving $22 on my bill
> by the time the call ended. And they even gave me the savings back to
> when my current cycle started instead of prorating my bill.
>
> On 12/4/2017 12:36 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> I went to buy an iPhone X. T-Mobile told me it wasn't worth it
>> Commentary: A visit to a T-Mobile store reveals some very particular
>> feelings about Apple's new phone.
>> December 3, 2017 9:00 AM PST
>>
>> Not worth it?
>> César Salza / CNET
>> I think of T-Mobile most often when I see it's insulted Verizon and when
>> I
>> see someone wear a pink tutu at a party.
>> Still, it's presented itself very well over the last couple of years as
>> the
>> carrier that thinks most about customers, especially with its push toward
>> unlimited data.
>> Could it possibly be the store that would guide me toward buying the
>> right
>> phone?
>> Regular readers might know that I've been visiting various retailers to
>> see
>> how they present different phones to customers. You know, in person.
>> I've been to both a Verizon store and a Best Buy to learn about Pixel 2.
>> In
>> both cases, I was guided toward a Samsung Galaxy.
>> I went to an AT&T store, where I was told that the Galaxy Note 8 was a
>> better phone than the iPhone X.
>> What would T-Mobile tell me?
>> I was moved to visit, as the carrier offered a 2-for-1 promotion on the
>> iPhone 8 last week.
>> Did this mean that T-Mobile was selling so many iPhone X's that it was
>> desperate to get rid of the lesser upgrade from last year's phone?
>> Was iPhone X the phone that would tear me away from my trusty, now
>> slightly
>> rusty-looking iPhone 6?
>> I went to a San Francisco Bay Area T-Mobile store to find out.
>> It all started well enough
>> A sprightly salesman approached me as I looked over the iPhone range.
>> I showed him my iPhone 6. He didn't sneer. This was a good start. Not
>> everyone looks so kindly on old phones in the Bay Area.
>> He swiftly dismissed the iPhone 8 as a minor upgrade.
>> "You've got wireless charging, faster processor and you've got the glass
>> back. But it's pretty much the same phone as the one you've got," he
>> said.
>> "But wait. Don't you have a 2-for-1 promotion going on for these right
>> now?"
>> "That ended Monday. We've got a 2-for-1 on the Samsungs, but not on the
>> 8's."
>> Was this the moment I was going to be told Samsungs were better? Not yet,
>> it
>> seemed.
>> "Oh, so did you have the promotion because you needed to get rid of a lot
>> of
>> 8's?" I asked.
>> "No," he replied, a little too quickly. "It was just a promotion."
>> I then asked him about the iPhone X. He couldn't show me how Face ID
>> works,
>> because each phone can only work with one person's face.
>> He insisted, though, that it was secure. "I think there's a
>> million-to-one
>> chance that someone else's face will open your phone," he said.
>> iPhone X? It's not worth the extra 200 bucks
>> Then things took a strange turn.
>> He suddenly volunteered that it took more time to get to all your apps on
>> the X than it did with the iPhone 8 Plus.
>> "With the 8 Plus, you just double-click on the home button and, look,
>> there
>> they all are," he said. "With iPhone X, it's messier." He showed me how
>> much
>> messier, as he made several gestures to achieve the same effect.
>> So the future of the smartphone takes you back in time, not forward?
>> "A lot of people aren't buying the X because they miss the home button,"
>> he
>> said. "Look, there's not much difference between the X and the 8 Plus.
>> The
>> camera's the same, the screen size is almost the same. All the iPhone
>> people
>> in this store upgraded to an 8 Plus, not an X."
>> "Why?"
>> "Because they didn't think the X was worth the extra 200 bucks."
>> I confess to being surprised. I've enjoyed the candor of all the
>> salespeople
>> I've talked to. But here was one who was trying to sell me what most
>> people
>> would tell me is a lesser phone.
>> "So why do people buy the iPhone X?"
>> "One of the biggest reasons is the animojis," he said, with something of
>> a
>> chuckle. These require your facial features from Face ID and animate them
>> into, say, a unicorn or a pile of excreta. A pile of singing ex

Re: I went to buy an iPhone X. T-Mobile told me it wasn't worth it - CNET

[Gordon]

I've been with T-mobile since 2008 and they've always been like this no 
matter if it's a store or a rep over the phone. When I was with At&t 
years ago they would always try to sell me something to make more money. 
However T-mobile has always found ways to save me money. the reps over 
the phone would always look at my account and tell me what I could do to 
save money. I had called in one time and ended up saving $22 on my bill 
by the time the call ended. And they even gave me the savings back to 
when my current cycle started instead of prorating my bill.


On 12/4/2017 12:36 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

I went to buy an iPhone X. T-Mobile told me it wasn't worth it
Commentary: A visit to a T-Mobile store reveals some very particular
feelings about Apple's new phone.
December 3, 2017 9:00 AM PST
  
Not worth it?

César Salza / CNET
I think of T-Mobile most often when I see it's insulted Verizon and when I
see someone wear a pink tutu at a party.
Still, it's presented itself very well over the last couple of years as the
carrier that thinks most about customers, especially with its push toward
unlimited data.
Could it possibly be the store that would guide me toward buying the right
phone?
Regular readers might know that I've been visiting various retailers to see
how they present different phones to customers. You know, in person.
I've been to both a Verizon store and a Best Buy to learn about Pixel 2. In
both cases, I was guided toward a Samsung Galaxy.
I went to an AT&T store, where I was told that the Galaxy Note 8 was a
better phone than the iPhone X.
What would T-Mobile tell me?
I was moved to visit, as the carrier offered a 2-for-1 promotion on the
iPhone 8 last week.
Did this mean that T-Mobile was selling so many iPhone X's that it was
desperate to get rid of the lesser upgrade from last year's phone?
Was iPhone X the phone that would tear me away from my trusty, now slightly
rusty-looking iPhone 6?
I went to a San Francisco Bay Area T-Mobile store to find out.
It all started well enough
A sprightly salesman approached me as I looked over the iPhone range.
I showed him my iPhone 6. He didn't sneer. This was a good start. Not
everyone looks so kindly on old phones in the Bay Area.
He swiftly dismissed the iPhone 8 as a minor upgrade.
"You've got wireless charging, faster processor and you've got the glass
back. But it's pretty much the same phone as the one you've got," he said.
"But wait. Don't you have a 2-for-1 promotion going on for these right now?"
"That ended Monday. We've got a 2-for-1 on the Samsungs, but not on the
8's."
Was this the moment I was going to be told Samsungs were better? Not yet, it
seemed.
"Oh, so did you have the promotion because you needed to get rid of a lot of
8's?" I asked.
"No," he replied, a little too quickly. "It was just a promotion."
I then asked him about the iPhone X. He couldn't show me how Face ID works,
because each phone can only work with one person's face.
He insisted, though, that it was secure. "I think there's a million-to-one
chance that someone else's face will open your phone," he said.
iPhone X? It's not worth the extra 200 bucks
Then things took a strange turn.
He suddenly volunteered that it took more time to get to all your apps on
the X than it did with the iPhone 8 Plus.
"With the 8 Plus, you just double-click on the home button and, look, there
they all are," he said. "With iPhone X, it's messier." He showed me how much
messier, as he made several gestures to achieve the same effect.
So the future of the smartphone takes you back in time, not forward?
"A lot of people aren't buying the X because they miss the home button," he
said. "Look, there's not much difference between the X and the 8 Plus. The
camera's the same, the screen size is almost the same. All the iPhone people
in this store upgraded to an 8 Plus, not an X."
"Why?"
"Because they didn't think the X was worth the extra 200 bucks."
I confess to being surprised. I've enjoyed the candor of all the salespeople
I've talked to. But here was one who was trying to sell me what most people
would tell me is a lesser phone.
"So why do people buy the iPhone X?"
"One of the biggest reasons is the animojis," he said, with something of a
chuckle. These require your facial features from Face ID and animate them
into, say, a unicorn or a pile of excreta. A pile of singing excreta, if you
want to enjoy animoji karaoke.
"But these are just younger people, right?"
"No, all ages. It's incredible."
And the best phone is...the one that's dead
"So which phone do you think is the best?" I asked.
"For me, the Note 8," he said, without hesitation. "I had an iPhone for a
while when the Note 7 thing happened. But when the Note 8 came out, I went
straight back to it."
He explained that, for him, Android was better because he could "do more"
with it, especially download free apps. I'd heard this from several
salespeople. This one loved the Note 8's big screen.
It was then that he admitted his Note 8 had died just

OMG! Texting is 25 years old - CNET

[M. Taylor]

OMG! Texting is 25 years old
The first SMS was sent on Dec. 3, 1992, but it would be a couple of years
before phones could do it.
December 3, 2017 4:20 PM PST

Texting turned 25 on Sunday, ICYMI.
The first text message was sent on Dec. 3, 1992, by British engineer Neil
Papworth to Richard Jarvis, an executive at British telecom Vodafone, who
was attending his company's holiday party in Newbury, England. 
Typed out on a PC, it was sent to Jarvis's Orbitel 901, a mobile phone that
would take up most of your laptop backpack, and read: Merry Christmas. But
Jarvis didn't send a reply because there was no way to send a text from a
phone in those days.
Although Papworth is credited with sending the first text message, he's not
the so-called father of SMS. That honor (or blame) falls on Matti Makkonen,
who initially suggested the idea back in 1984 at a telecommunications
conference. 
But texting didn't take off over night. First it had to be incorporated into
the then-budding GSM standard. Makkonen feels the technology actually was
launched in 1994 when Nokia unveiled its 2010 mobile phone, the first device
that let people easily write messages.
Today, about 97 percent of smartphone owners use text messaging, according
to Pew Research, and along the way, a new set of sub-languages based on
abbreviations and keyboard-based imagery has evolved. More than 561 billion
text messages were sent worldwide in June 2014, about 18.7 billion texts
sent every day, according researcher TextRequest.
Texting has become so popular that most Americans would rather type it than
say it. US smartphone users are sending and receiving five times as many
texts compared with the number of phone calls each day, according to the
International Smartphone Mobility Report by mobile data tracking firm
Infomate.
Isn't that GR8?

Original Article at:
https://www.cnet.com/news/omg-texting-is-25-years-old/#ftag=CAD-09-10aai5b

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I went to buy an iPhone X. T-Mobile told me it wasn't worth it - CNET

[M. Taylor]

I went to buy an iPhone X. T-Mobile told me it wasn't worth it
Commentary: A visit to a T-Mobile store reveals some very particular
feelings about Apple's new phone.
December 3, 2017 9:00 AM PST
 
Not worth it?
César Salza / CNET 
I think of T-Mobile most often when I see it's insulted Verizon and when I
see someone wear a pink tutu at a party.
Still, it's presented itself very well over the last couple of years as the
carrier that thinks most about customers, especially with its push toward
unlimited data.
Could it possibly be the store that would guide me toward buying the right
phone?
Regular readers might know that I've been visiting various retailers to see
how they present different phones to customers. You know, in person.
I've been to both a Verizon store and a Best Buy to learn about Pixel 2. In
both cases, I was guided toward a Samsung Galaxy.
I went to an AT&T store, where I was told that the Galaxy Note 8 was a
better phone than the iPhone X. 
What would T-Mobile tell me? 
I was moved to visit, as the carrier offered a 2-for-1 promotion on the
iPhone 8 last week. 
Did this mean that T-Mobile was selling so many iPhone X's that it was
desperate to get rid of the lesser upgrade from last year's phone? 
Was iPhone X the phone that would tear me away from my trusty, now slightly
rusty-looking iPhone 6?
I went to a San Francisco Bay Area T-Mobile store to find out. 
It all started well enough
A sprightly salesman approached me as I looked over the iPhone range.
I showed him my iPhone 6. He didn't sneer. This was a good start. Not
everyone looks so kindly on old phones in the Bay Area.
He swiftly dismissed the iPhone 8 as a minor upgrade. 
"You've got wireless charging, faster processor and you've got the glass
back. But it's pretty much the same phone as the one you've got," he said.
"But wait. Don't you have a 2-for-1 promotion going on for these right now?"
"That ended Monday. We've got a 2-for-1 on the Samsungs, but not on the
8's."
Was this the moment I was going to be told Samsungs were better? Not yet, it
seemed.
"Oh, so did you have the promotion because you needed to get rid of a lot of
8's?" I asked.
"No," he replied, a little too quickly. "It was just a promotion."
I then asked him about the iPhone X. He couldn't show me how Face ID works,
because each phone can only work with one person's face. 
He insisted, though, that it was secure. "I think there's a million-to-one
chance that someone else's face will open your phone," he said.
iPhone X? It's not worth the extra 200 bucks
Then things took a strange turn.
He suddenly volunteered that it took more time to get to all your apps on
the X than it did with the iPhone 8 Plus.
"With the 8 Plus, you just double-click on the home button and, look, there
they all are," he said. "With iPhone X, it's messier." He showed me how much
messier, as he made several gestures to achieve the same effect.
So the future of the smartphone takes you back in time, not forward?
"A lot of people aren't buying the X because they miss the home button," he
said. "Look, there's not much difference between the X and the 8 Plus. The
camera's the same, the screen size is almost the same. All the iPhone people
in this store upgraded to an 8 Plus, not an X."
"Why?"
"Because they didn't think the X was worth the extra 200 bucks."
I confess to being surprised. I've enjoyed the candor of all the salespeople
I've talked to. But here was one who was trying to sell me what most people
would tell me is a lesser phone.
"So why do people buy the iPhone X?"
"One of the biggest reasons is the animojis," he said, with something of a
chuckle. These require your facial features from Face ID and animate them
into, say, a unicorn or a pile of excreta. A pile of singing excreta, if you
want to enjoy animoji karaoke.
"But these are just younger people, right?"
"No, all ages. It's incredible."
And the best phone is...the one that's dead
"So which phone do you think is the best?" I asked.
"For me, the Note 8," he said, without hesitation. "I had an iPhone for a
while when the Note 7 thing happened. But when the Note 8 came out, I went
straight back to it."
He explained that, for him, Android was better because he could "do more"
with it, especially download free apps. I'd heard this from several
salespeople. This one loved the Note 8's big screen.
It was then that he admitted his Note 8 had died just before Thanksgiving.
"Just totally dead," he said. "I couldn't believe it."
He had a temporary phone but would be going straight back to a new Note 8
shortly, he said.
Now that was brand loyalty. And no, unlike staff in other carrier stores, he
said he didn't get a work phone from T-Mobile.
"So are you saying I should get a Note 8?" I asked. "Isn't it hard to switch
from iOS to Android?"
"It's simple," he replied. "We do it all here for you."
This was an incentive I hadn't heard before. But he stopped short of telling
me I should go Android.
"You should stick with iPhones," he concluded, with a t

app for color id

[Paul Richard McGann]

to all, 

after I upgraded ios 11, app color id and app say color no longer be used 
because developer has not upgraded version for both apps. 

is there another apps that would help us idenitify colors on clothing, 
materials and others??? thank you!

sincerely, 
rich 

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RE: Apple Releases iOS 11.2; Bringing Many Fixes for Braille and VoiceOver Users

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What is Apple PPay Cash? If that is the same as person-to-person payments than 
I thought it said in the article from Applevis that it was now available in the 
US?

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Kelly Pierce
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Releases iOS 11.2; Bringing Many Fixes for Braille and 
VoiceOver Users

Apple Pay Cash has not yet been activated on this release.  I will continue to 
wait to upgrade to iOS 11 until Apple delivers upon what it promised at WWDC.


Kelly

On 12/2/17, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> Apple released ios 11.2 overnight, and below is an article from 
> AppleVis about all of the new features and voice over bug fixes.
>
>
>> On Dec 2, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Apple Releases iOS 11.2; Bringing Many Fixes for Braille and 
>> VoiceOver Users AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of 
>> Apple products ...  / AppleVis
>>
>>
>> Apple has today released iOS 11.2, which brings a number of fixes; 
>> enhancements; and changes for blind and low vision users.
>>
>> This release appears to have been rushed out by Apple to address a 
>> rather nasty bug related to some notifications generated after 12:15 
>> a.m. local time on December 2 causing devices to enter a soft reset loop.
>> AppleInsider has more on this bug.
>>
>> Fixes
>>
>> When using a braille display or braille keyboard for text input, the 
>> translator now recognizes all characters if you type quickly.
>> Braille focus and jumping issues appear to be resolved.
>> The Braille Screen Input cursor is now placed in the correct location 
>> in text views.
>> Braille focus will now follow finger when touching in iBooks.
>> Siri voices will no longer be deleted when downloaded for VoiceOver 
>> usage.
>> There is once again a sound effect played when using the volume 
>> up/down buttons to change the volume level.
>> Prices preceded by the British Pound symbol are now Spoken Correctly 
>> by VoiceOver.
>> On the Mini Player in the native Music app, VoiceOver once again 
>> reads the name of the currently selected device on the “Audio Destination” 
>> button.
>> After performing a search in the App Store, VoiceOver will no longer 
>> behave as if the list of trending searches is present and accessible 
>> at the end of the list of search results.
>> Smart Invert now works in the Control Center.
>> The incoming call screen has improved support of Invert Colors.
>> The app review interface is now accessible with VoiceOver for rating 
>> apps inline.
>> The Apple TV remote in Control Center has VoiceOver improvements.
>> Stand hours in the Activity app are now announced correctly by VoiceOver.
>> Heart rate data in the native Health app is now spoken correctly by 
>> VoiceOver.
>> The iOS Item Chooser appears to be working correctly again.
>> In the Phone app, you can once again use the VoiceOver Actions rotor 
>> to paste telephone numbers in to the text field.
>> Movement of VoiceOver focus when swiping through a story in the 
>> native News app is more consistent and reliable.
>> In the native Files app, there no longer appear to be occasions when 
>> the “Delete” option would be listed twice in the VoiceOver Actions Rotor.
>> In the App Store, locating the “My Account” button is more reliable 
>> when swiping, making the movement of VoiceOver focus behave as expected.
>> In the native Contacts app, locating your own contact card in the 
>> list view is more reliable when swiping, making the movement of 
>> VoiceOver focus behave as expected.
>> If a bluetooth keyboard supports a "Home button" key, it should now 
>> work with VoiceOver again.
>> The graphic on the settings page for Emergency SOS now has a 
>> VoiceOver label.
>> There appear to be improvements to how VoiceOver handles math 
>> formulas on web pages.
>> There no longer appear to be occasions when playback of audio will 
>> break-up and crackle; and require VoiceOver to be turned off and back 
>> on again to restore normal audio output.
>> The Siri voices appear to be much more responsive when used with 
>> VoiceOver.
>> The completeness of VoiceOver recognition of text in images appears 
>> to have been improved.
>> Text recognition in images now works regardless of Screen Curtain or 
>> brightness settings.
>> VoiceOver now attempts to recognize the text of unlabeled buttons in 
>> apps—presenting this information as "possible text."
>> Audio destination will now only appear in the VoiceOver Rotor for 
>> AirPlay routes. This Rotor item can be enabled/disabled in Settings.
>> New Bugs
>>
>> Our testing suggests that iOS 11.2 introduces no new bugs for 
>> VoiceOver or braille users. However, as we always stress, we are only 
>> a small team, so it is simply impossible for us to test all devices, 
>> configurations, applications, and use cases. It is possible, 
>> therefore, that there are additional fixes, chang

RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I'd sell it to you, Len, but I don't think you could afford it. But wait a few 
weeks until Pablo is fed up with his iPhone X and he'll sell that to you for 
$50 *smile*


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
lenron brown
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

hahahaha I want the new IPhone 6s.

On 12/3/17, pablocmd2...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Sieghard,
>
> My wife is reading your email, and she looks jealous.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> It was released yesterday morning as far as I know.
>
> Of course nobody will report any bluetooth issues in iOS 11.2 because 
> just like all other Apple hardware and software it is perfect, there 
> are no bugs like in Android and all that.
>
> Pablo, admit it, you hate Android and you love Apple.
>
> OK, for all who don’t know how Pablo and I “love” each other, this is 
> all just in good fun.
>
> Pablo of course accuses me of always defending Apple and of always 
> buying the latest which of course is the reason why Pablo has an 
> iPhone X and I have the much newer and superior iPhone 6S Plus… wait, 
> I got that wrong, the 6S Plus is 2 years old, sorry, Pablo, you are wrong 
> *smile*.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Sieghard,
>
> I never left the list.
>
> Why I am going to leave the apple word.
>
> You know how much I enjoy pocking fun on you.
>
> As I have told you that I have several apple devices at home, and also 
> I have several android devices at home. Is good that both sides exist 
> because neither apple or android were going to improve without competition.
>
> I have found some pages saying that IOs 11.12 had some problems with 
> the Bluetooth connection. They advise to restore the iPhone, but it is 
> something that I already did, and now I have IOs 11.2. However I 
> haven’t seen anybody saying anything about the Bluetooth on IOs 11.2, 
> but it was release a few days ago.
>
> Let us wait to see if anybody reports something.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Pablo, welcome back to the wonderful world of iOS, after your last 
> trip down Apple Street I thought you’d stay in Android Land forever. I 
> don’t have a fancy new iPhone X or even an 8 or 8 Plus, but on my 
> trusty 6S Plus my Logitech K780 keyboard works fine. Have you checked 
> on Applevis if there is any advice on what might be going on here?
>
> I know Mario posted something about “editing issues using bluetooth 
> keyboards on the iPhone 8/8 Plus”, but I’m not sure what exactly he is 
> referring to. I don’t use my keyboard all that much, but I have 
> definitely used it to write some emails and such and it seems to work fine.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left 
> key simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.
>
> The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left 
> and right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press 
> it again if it says quick Nav on.
>
> Judy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales   > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth 
> keyboards and for some reason I am not able to type characters, 
> however I am able to navigate using the Bluetooth keyboards.
>
> One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and th

Re: Facebook

[Donna]

Not if you are referring to a MP3 file or the like. The only way to post an 
audio file is to use the video mode on your iPhone or the Facebook video and 
just place your iPhone down so that no actual viewable footage is recorded. 

Donna
> 
> First of all, my phone is a 7 with 11.2 operating system. I have put videos 
> and pictures on fb . Is it possible to put up just an audio clip? How would I 
> go about doing it?
> 
> Marie Lyons
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RE: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter

[Cher Bosch]

Thanks to all who very kindly assisted. I was able to use Sieghard’s link to 
convert my file successfully- YEAH! Thanks once again everyone for making this 
list such a fantastic source of information!

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter

 

There are a large number of online converters, most of them work very well.

Just Google “Online MPEG to iTunes converter”, below is the first search result 
which is very straight forward. There isa button where you can select your file 
from wherever you saved it on the computer, then there are two combo boxes, the 
first one is to select the input format of the file you want to convert and the 
second let’s you specify the output format you want. You then have a checkbox 
which is optional and if checked will send you an email with a link to download 
the converted file or you can just downlopad it on the website after the 
conversion is done.

There are online converters for audio files, picture files as well as documents 
and, as in the above case, for video files. I find them very convenient and 
easy to use and unless you constantly are converting many files there really is 
no point in installing software to do this.

 

This is the link for the ConVertFiles.com website and specifically for video 
file conversion  

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter

 

No- only have one file to convert so I am looking for something simple and 
free. Goldwave is pretty sophisticated and not free, isn’t it? Thanks.

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom  
Subject: RE: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter

 

Have you tried GoldWave?

www.goldwavecom  

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom  
Subject: RE: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter

 

Is there a desktop (windows) version of this app, or is it only for iDevices? I 
should have specified that the file is on the PC and that I wanted to convert 
it for use with iTunes on the PC. Thanks.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gianni
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom  
Subject: Re: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter

 

Try in the app store: Easy Audio Converter

Gianni

 

Skype: giannijuve

Sent from my iPhone


Op 27 nov 2017 om 01:32 heeft Cher Bosch  het 
volgende geschreven:

Can anyone recommend an accessible one? Simple to use would be very nice ;)  
Thanks.

 

Cher

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Re: getting an Mp4a into iTunes and converting it to mp3

[Kelly Pierce]

John,

If you have an account for Dropbox or OneDrive, you could simply
transfer the Voice Memo files to one of these services. If you don’t
have an account, these services are extremely useful as a blind
person. These two cloud services in particular are highly accessible.
To transfer, choose the Voice Memo you wish to transfer by opening it.
Double tap the share button on the bottom of the screen. If you have
the Dropbox or OneDrive apps installed on your phone and are signed
in, these services will appear in the list of options where you can
share the file. Double tap one of them and iOS then walks you through
the process of uploading it to OneDrive or Dropbox.

Kelly


On 12/2/17, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  wrote:
> Hi: I'm trying to get my mp4a files from my voice memos into itunes. The
> only way I can get them to my pc is to email them to myself. Is there an
> easier way to get them into itunes and then convert them to mp3 files??
> Thanks
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Re: Apple Releases iOS 11.2; Bringing Many Fixes for Braille and VoiceOver Users

[Kelly Pierce]

Apple Pay Cash has not yet been activated on this release.  I will
continue to wait to upgrade to iOS 11 until Apple delivers upon what
it promised at WWDC.


Kelly

On 12/2/17, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> Apple released ios 11.2 overnight, and below is an article from AppleVis
> about all of the new features and voice over bug fixes.
>
>
>> On Dec 2, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Apple Releases iOS 11.2; Bringing Many Fixes for Braille and VoiceOver
>> Users
>> AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products ...  /
>> AppleVis
>>
>>
>> Apple has today released iOS 11.2, which brings a number of fixes;
>> enhancements; and changes for blind and low vision users.
>>
>> This release appears to have been rushed out by Apple to address a rather
>> nasty bug related to some notifications generated after 12:15 a.m. local
>> time on December 2 causing devices to enter a soft reset loop.
>> AppleInsider has more on this bug.
>>
>> Fixes
>>
>> When using a braille display or braille keyboard for text input, the
>> translator now recognizes all characters if you type quickly.
>> Braille focus and jumping issues appear to be resolved.
>> The Braille Screen Input cursor is now placed in the correct location in
>> text views.
>> Braille focus will now follow finger when touching in iBooks.
>> Siri voices will no longer be deleted when downloaded for VoiceOver
>> usage.
>> There is once again a sound effect played when using the volume up/down
>> buttons to change the volume level.
>> Prices preceded by the British Pound symbol are now Spoken Correctly by
>> VoiceOver.
>> On the Mini Player in the native Music app, VoiceOver once again reads the
>> name of the currently selected device on the “Audio Destination” button.
>> After performing a search in the App Store, VoiceOver will no longer
>> behave as if the list of trending searches is present and accessible at
>> the end of the list of search results.
>> Smart Invert now works in the Control Center.
>> The incoming call screen has improved support of Invert Colors.
>> The app review interface is now accessible with VoiceOver for rating apps
>> inline.
>> The Apple TV remote in Control Center has VoiceOver improvements.
>> Stand hours in the Activity app are now announced correctly by VoiceOver.
>> Heart rate data in the native Health app is now spoken correctly by
>> VoiceOver.
>> The iOS Item Chooser appears to be working correctly again.
>> In the Phone app, you can once again use the VoiceOver Actions rotor to
>> paste telephone numbers in to the text field.
>> Movement of VoiceOver focus when swiping through a story in the native
>> News app is more consistent and reliable.
>> In the native Files app, there no longer appear to be occasions when the
>> “Delete” option would be listed twice in the VoiceOver Actions Rotor.
>> In the App Store, locating the “My Account” button is more reliable when
>> swiping, making the movement of VoiceOver focus behave as expected.
>> In the native Contacts app, locating your own contact card in the list
>> view is more reliable when swiping, making the movement of VoiceOver focus
>> behave as expected.
>> If a bluetooth keyboard supports a "Home button" key, it should now work
>> with VoiceOver again.
>> The graphic on the settings page for Emergency SOS now has a VoiceOver
>> label.
>> There appear to be improvements to how VoiceOver handles math formulas on
>> web pages.
>> There no longer appear to be occasions when playback of audio will
>> break-up and crackle; and require VoiceOver to be turned off and back on
>> again to restore normal audio output.
>> The Siri voices appear to be much more responsive when used with
>> VoiceOver.
>> The completeness of VoiceOver recognition of text in images appears to
>> have been improved.
>> Text recognition in images now works regardless of Screen Curtain or
>> brightness settings.
>> VoiceOver now attempts to recognize the text of unlabeled buttons in
>> apps—presenting this information as "possible text."
>> Audio destination will now only appear in the VoiceOver Rotor for AirPlay
>> routes. This Rotor item can be enabled/disabled in Settings.
>> New Bugs
>>
>> Our testing suggests that iOS 11.2 introduces no new bugs for VoiceOver or
>> braille users. However, as we always stress, we are only a small team, so
>> it is simply impossible for us to test all devices, configurations,
>> applications, and use cases. It is possible, therefore, that there are
>> additional fixes, changes or regressions in iOS 11.2 that we are currently
>> unaware of. We will update this post if we learn of anything else. In the
>> meantime, please let us know in the comments of any fixes, enhancements or
>> regressions that you find in your own testing of this release.
>>
>> Other Changes of Note in iOS 11.2
>>
>> Users in the US can now make person-to-person payments via Apple Pay. This
>> Apple support page provides information on how to setup and use this
>> service.
>> Ad

Facebook

[Marie Lyons]

First of all, my phone is a 7 with 11.2 operating system. I have put videos and 
pictures on fb . Is it possible to put up just an audio clip? How would I go 
about doing it?

Marie Lyons

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Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

[Larry Smith]

> Got it! Thanks On Dec 3, 2017, at 6:08 PM, Kay Malmquist 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you look up instant pot an app will come up called smart cooker.  That is 
> the one you want.  There is another one called instant pot and that has more 
> recipes that you can use, but the one that will Bluetooth with your instant 
> pot is Smart cooker.  Hope this helps.
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Larry Smith 
>> To: 'Ming' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 4:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
>> 10-in-1
>> 
>> I purchased the insta pot last week and received it last Friday. What is the 
>> name of the app? I purchased the bluetooth model. Thanks On Dec 3, 2017, at 
>> 12:37 PM, Kay Malmquist > > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, I understand all that, and yes, it would be nice to be able to update 
>>> the firmware in this, so we will see where that goes.  I know what they 
>>> told you about being designed to work as an accessible app and let's hope 
>>> that continues.
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sieghard Weitzel 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 11:28 AM
 Subject: RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
 10-in-1
 
 As I said, according to the customer service rep the fact that the Instant 
 Pot app is accessible is by design and not just something that just 
 happens to be so.
 I would therefore assume Instant Pot as a company is aware of the needs of 
 visually impaired users and has made a commitment towards offering an 
 accessible product.
 Anyhow, by software update I don’t mean updates to the app but updates to 
 the pot’s firmware. The app of course is also important as it’s your 
 portal to the hardware, with something like the Instant Pot the app really 
 is no more than a remote control which let’s you select a cooking program 
 and maybe set a timer etc. Of course if the buttons, labels and other 
 controls in the app are made to be inaccessible that makes the entire 
 product inaccessible.
 But the real “smart” stuff happens inside the software and the processor 
 that is built into the pot and this is where it would make sense if this 
 could be updated just like I can update the firmware of my router, my 
 Netatmo Weather Station, my Schlage Sense smart doorlock, my Ring Video 
 Doorbell or my Philipps Hue lights so it should be possible to update the 
 firmware of the actual Instant Pot.
 The issue you describe with the iGrill is of course not because the actual 
 hardware has become inaccessible, the hardware only communicates with the 
 app, but here iGrill has messed up by making the app inaccessible, 
 basically now the remote control or the gateway/the portal to the iGrill 
 is inaccessible.
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
 Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:11 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
 10-in-1
 I get a bit nervous talking about software updates after our experience 
 with iGrill and their updates which rendered the product basically 
 useless.  Lets hope they keep the functionality and accessibility going.
 Kay Malmquist
 kay.malmqu...@gmail.com - Original 
 Message - 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:41 AM
> Subject: RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
> 10-in-1
> No, he didn’t give me any additional information nor did I ask, all he 
> said that they are working on a new model with better software. It’s too 
> bad they don’t make them so the software can be updated like it can be on 
> a Sonos player or many other connected devices, in fact I am surprised 
> now that I think about it. Maybe the new Instant Pot will have that 
> functionality, it really would make sense since the pot itself probably 
> won’t change very much and improvements will generally be software 
> related.
> I don’t know if the new Smart will be an 8 quart or if it continues on as 
> a 6 quart. One thing I do know is that trying to constantly update to the 
> latest devices is probably a quick path to financial rui

Re: Lift and Uber questions

[Andy Baracco]

Pool is their shared ride option. not available everywhere, generally in 
larger cities. it should appear in the ride type options if available in 
your location.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Chip Orange" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: Lift and Uber questions


Could you explain  about what pool is?  If both my wife and I want to ride 
in the Uber do I need to schedule a pool ride or do something differently 
for two of us?


Thanks,

Chip



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco

Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lift and Uber questions

I have used both, but now use lyft pretty much exclusively. Prices do 
vary,

even on the same trip. Prices are generally higher during the evening, but
last evening I took a trip on Lyft during a time when the price is usually
higher, and it wasn't, so go figure. Also, when using lyft Line or Uber
Pool, the price for the 2nd passenger can very from 39 cents to $1.50.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Merritt" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Lift and Uber questions



I use Uber several times per week. Both Uber and Lyft are extremely
easy to use. As far as pricing goes, when there is extremely high
demand like Sieghard mentioned, Uber goes into Surge Pricing. You will
be told of the higher prices when booking your trip and given an
opportunity to cancel or continue. I have heard from others that Lyft
does has Surge Pricing every so often, but my friends say that Lyft
may not have as much Surge Pricing and Uber does. I don't know for
sure since I've taken Uber quite heavily the last few months. Also, if
you frequent one or both services often enough, you will get emails
and notifications about discounts for the week, such as half off the
first 10 rides. You can schedule a ride in advance with both services.
I have done this on both, but I like the notifications you get in
advance of a scheduled trip on Uber better than Lyft. Uber gives you a
notification at 30 and then 5 minutes before your scheduled trip,
where Lyft only gives a text or notification 10 minutes before.
Regarding getting the driver to help you, Uber and Lyft are like
paratransit services, where they are technically just door to door, or
curb to curb service. I have asked some drivers to help me inside a
building or to find a specific place, but not all will be willing. If
they do, then I am sure to give them a better rating and even a tip at
the end. And you can tip with Uber and Lyft. This is one other thing
that Lyft does better. You will get an emailed receipt after each trip
on both services, but Lyft is good about telling you how much your
trip was before you tip. Uber does not do this. I have to look in the
menu, then Your Trips, then I can find out how much my ride was. Both
services are great over all and worth the trouble since they can help
to increase your independence and flexibility when traveling around
town. By the way,

Happy riding,
Wyne

On 12/2/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

One thing I found at least here in Canada when I used Uber in Calgary is
that with their high-demand upcharge it is often cheaper to take a taxi
during such times of the day. It's amazing how a Uber quote can vary 
even

from now to 5 minutes later and while I guess this is part of the supply
and
demand principal of economy I don't like it too much. If I see the
message
about pricing being higher due to high demand I simply close the Uber 
app

and call a cab.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lift and Uber questions

Hello everyone,


I have the Lift App on my phone. But I've never used it. From the looks
of
it, the App seems pretty accessible.

I have a friend who uses Uber, and he says it's accessible.


Is 1 App more accessible than the other?

Also, are there much differences in the prices of trips?

And how do you put in information when you make a trip with either App?

For instance, if you may need some guidance to the building.

Also, does either App do a round-trip sort of deal?


Any help would be appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Lift and Uber questions

[Wayne Merritt]

Chip,
When booking your Uber Pool trip, and I'm assuming the same will be
true for Lyft Line, you will be asked how many seats you will need.
The choices are 1 or 2. Once you have made the selection, the rest of
the booking process is the same.

Hth,
Wayne

On 12/3/17, Chip Orange  wrote:
> Could you explain  about what pool is?  If both my wife and I want to ride
> in the Uber do I need to schedule a pool ride or do something differently
> for two of us?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chip
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 4:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lift and Uber questions
>
> I have used both, but now use lyft pretty much exclusively. Prices do vary,
>
> even on the same trip. Prices are generally higher during the evening, but
> last evening I took a trip on Lyft during a time when the price is usually
> higher, and it wasn't, so go figure. Also, when using lyft Line or Uber
> Pool, the price for the 2nd passenger can very from 39 cents to $1.50.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wayne Merritt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Lift and Uber questions
>
>
>>I use Uber several times per week. Both Uber and Lyft are extremely
>> easy to use. As far as pricing goes, when there is extremely high
>> demand like Sieghard mentioned, Uber goes into Surge Pricing. You will
>> be told of the higher prices when booking your trip and given an
>> opportunity to cancel or continue. I have heard from others that Lyft
>> does has Surge Pricing every so often, but my friends say that Lyft
>> may not have as much Surge Pricing and Uber does. I don't know for
>> sure since I've taken Uber quite heavily the last few months. Also, if
>> you frequent one or both services often enough, you will get emails
>> and notifications about discounts for the week, such as half off the
>> first 10 rides. You can schedule a ride in advance with both services.
>> I have done this on both, but I like the notifications you get in
>> advance of a scheduled trip on Uber better than Lyft. Uber gives you a
>> notification at 30 and then 5 minutes before your scheduled trip,
>> where Lyft only gives a text or notification 10 minutes before.
>> Regarding getting the driver to help you, Uber and Lyft are like
>> paratransit services, where they are technically just door to door, or
>> curb to curb service. I have asked some drivers to help me inside a
>> building or to find a specific place, but not all will be willing. If
>> they do, then I am sure to give them a better rating and even a tip at
>> the end. And you can tip with Uber and Lyft. This is one other thing
>> that Lyft does better. You will get an emailed receipt after each trip
>> on both services, but Lyft is good about telling you how much your
>> trip was before you tip. Uber does not do this. I have to look in the
>> menu, then Your Trips, then I can find out how much my ride was. Both
>> services are great over all and worth the trouble since they can help
>> to increase your independence and flexibility when traveling around
>> town. By the way,
>>
>> Happy riding,
>> Wyne
>>
>> On 12/2/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> One thing I found at least here in Canada when I used Uber in Calgary is
>>> that with their high-demand upcharge it is often cheaper to take a taxi
>>> during such times of the day. It's amazing how a Uber quote can vary
>>> even
>>> from now to 5 minutes later and while I guess this is part of the supply
>>>
>>> and
>>> demand principal of economy I don't like it too much. If I see the
>>> message
>>> about pricing being higher due to high demand I simply close the Uber
>>> app
>>> and call a cab.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Terri Stimmel
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 4:10 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Lift and Uber questions
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the Lift App on my phone. But I've never used it. From the looks
>>> of
>>> it, the App seems pretty accessible.
>>>
>>> I have a friend who uses Uber, and he says it's accessible.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is 1 App more accessible than the other?
>>>
>>> Also, are there much differences in the prices of trips?
>>>
>>> And how do you put in information when you make a trip with either App?
>>>
>>> For instance, if you may need some guidance to the building.
>>>
>>> Also, does either App do a round-trip sort of deal?
>>>
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>> Terri
>>>
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RE: IOS 11.2 update. question help.

[Richard Turner]

I’ve been using the Logitech K480 on iOS 11 through the current 11.1.2, and for 
the most part, no double letters.
I try to remember to lock the phone before turning off the keyboard and turning 
the keyboard on while the phone is locked.

That is no guarantee that double letters won’t happen, but it is very seldom.

Now, just the other day, I had a situation where I could navigate with the VO 
plus arrow keys, etc., but it wasn’t writing in a note, even though I toggled 
quick Nav on and off a couple of times.
I had to turn off the keyboard and back on before it worked.

That was new to me.

For the most part however, it works quite well.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Navarro
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 11.2 update. question help.






hi Kevin.
Thanks for the help.

I'm talking about the issues in edit fields and double characters being entered 
with BT.
and all the issues related to editing text.
all these problems discussed in the topics on the applevis in IOS 11.
in IOS 10 on most of these issues have been fixed, but there are still some.
now on IOS 11, things got worse again.
This is what I read on various topics at applevis.
can you tell me if you still use the BT keyboard on IOS 11 with the same 
satisfaction of IOS 10?
thanks.
cheers.

Às 19:03 de 03/12/2017, Kevin Chao escreveu:
Hi Mário,

I use a Bluetooth keyboard with iOS 11.2 and do a fair amount of text editing.
If you can link to a list or share some core issues that you’re aware of, I can 
verify them.

Thanks!

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 10:57 PM Mário Navarro 
mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hi all.


someone can help?


I want to buy the iPhone 8 plus, but I'm afraid the issues with the
bluetooth keyboard in ios 11 have not been fixed in this update 11.2.
someone can confirm me if all the issues were fixed? especially in text
editing?
I use a lot the bluetooth keyboard, and I would be extremely
disappointed with the purchase if all these issues are still present in
this update of ios 11.2.
I can't not confirm this because I'm still with IOS 10.3.3.
and I'm still not completely convinced with the IOS 11 to update my iPhone.
I think I'll stick with IOS 10.3.3 forever on my iPhone.
and it will be obvious if I buy the iPhone 8 plus, it will come with IOS 11.

I always had the desire to get a Plus.

thank you all.
cheers.


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RE: Lift and Uber questions

[Chip Orange]

Could you explain  about what pool is?  If both my wife and I want to ride in 
the Uber do I need to schedule a pool ride or do something differently for two 
of us?

Thanks,

Chip



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lift and Uber questions

I have used both, but now use lyft pretty much exclusively. Prices do vary, 
even on the same trip. Prices are generally higher during the evening, but 
last evening I took a trip on Lyft during a time when the price is usually 
higher, and it wasn't, so go figure. Also, when using lyft Line or Uber 
Pool, the price for the 2nd passenger can very from 39 cents to $1.50.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Merritt" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Lift and Uber questions


>I use Uber several times per week. Both Uber and Lyft are extremely
> easy to use. As far as pricing goes, when there is extremely high
> demand like Sieghard mentioned, Uber goes into Surge Pricing. You will
> be told of the higher prices when booking your trip and given an
> opportunity to cancel or continue. I have heard from others that Lyft
> does has Surge Pricing every so often, but my friends say that Lyft
> may not have as much Surge Pricing and Uber does. I don't know for
> sure since I've taken Uber quite heavily the last few months. Also, if
> you frequent one or both services often enough, you will get emails
> and notifications about discounts for the week, such as half off the
> first 10 rides. You can schedule a ride in advance with both services.
> I have done this on both, but I like the notifications you get in
> advance of a scheduled trip on Uber better than Lyft. Uber gives you a
> notification at 30 and then 5 minutes before your scheduled trip,
> where Lyft only gives a text or notification 10 minutes before.
> Regarding getting the driver to help you, Uber and Lyft are like
> paratransit services, where they are technically just door to door, or
> curb to curb service. I have asked some drivers to help me inside a
> building or to find a specific place, but not all will be willing. If
> they do, then I am sure to give them a better rating and even a tip at
> the end. And you can tip with Uber and Lyft. This is one other thing
> that Lyft does better. You will get an emailed receipt after each trip
> on both services, but Lyft is good about telling you how much your
> trip was before you tip. Uber does not do this. I have to look in the
> menu, then Your Trips, then I can find out how much my ride was. Both
> services are great over all and worth the trouble since they can help
> to increase your independence and flexibility when traveling around
> town. By the way,
>
> Happy riding,
> Wyne
>
> On 12/2/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> One thing I found at least here in Canada when I used Uber in Calgary is
>> that with their high-demand upcharge it is often cheaper to take a taxi
>> during such times of the day. It's amazing how a Uber quote can vary even
>> from now to 5 minutes later and while I guess this is part of the supply 
>> and
>> demand principal of economy I don't like it too much. If I see the 
>> message
>> about pricing being higher due to high demand I simply close the Uber app
>> and call a cab.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Terri Stimmel
>> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 4:10 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Lift and Uber questions
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>> I have the Lift App on my phone. But I've never used it. From the looks 
>> of
>> it, the App seems pretty accessible.
>>
>> I have a friend who uses Uber, and he says it's accessible.
>>
>>
>> Is 1 App more accessible than the other?
>>
>> Also, are there much differences in the prices of trips?
>>
>> And how do you put in information when you make a trip with either App?
>>
>> For instance, if you may need some guidance to the building.
>>
>> Also, does either App do a round-trip sort of deal?
>>
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> Terri
>>
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Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

[Kay Malmquist]

If you look up instant pot an app will come up called smart cooker.  That is 
the one you want.  There is another one called instant pot and that has more 
recipes that you can use, but the one that will Bluetooth with your instant 
pot is Smart cooker.  Hope this helps.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Smith
  To: 'Ming' via VIPhone
  Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 4:05 PM
  Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
10-in-1


  I purchased the insta pot last week and received it last Friday. What is 
the name of the app? I purchased the bluetooth model. Thanks On Dec 3, 2017, 
at 12:37 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:



Oh, I understand all that, and yes, it would be nice to be able to 
update the firmware in this, so we will see where that goes.  I know what 
they told you about being designed to work as an accessible app and let's 
hope that continues.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  - Original Message -
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 11:28 AM
  Subject: RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
10-in-1


  As I said, according to the customer service rep the fact that the 
Instant Pot app is accessible is by design and not just something that just 
happens to be so.
  I would therefore assume Instant Pot as a company is aware of the 
needs of visually impaired users and has made a commitment towards offering 
an accessible product.
  Anyhow, by software update I don’t mean updates to the app but updates 
to the pot’s firmware. The app of course is also important as it’s your 
portal to the hardware, with something like the Instant Pot the app really 
is no more than a remote control which let’s you select a cooking program 
and maybe set a timer etc. Of course if the buttons, labels and other 
controls in the app are made to be inaccessible that makes the entire 
product inaccessible.
  But the real “smart” stuff happens inside the software and the 
processor that is built into the pot and this is where it would make sense 
if this could be updated just like I can update the firmware of my router, 
my Netatmo Weather Station, my Schlage Sense smart doorlock, my Ring Video 
Doorbell or my Philipps Hue lights so it should be possible to update the 
firmware of the actual Instant Pot.
  The issue you describe with the iGrill is of course not because the 
actual hardware has become inaccessible, the hardware only communicates with 
the app, but here iGrill has messed up by making the app inaccessible, 
basically now the remote control or the gateway/the portal to the iGrill is 
inaccessible.

  Regards,
  Sieghard

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:11 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
10-in-1

  I get a bit nervous talking about software updates after our 
experience with iGrill and their updates which rendered the product 
basically useless.  Lets hope they keep the functionality and accessibility 
going.

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot 
Ultra 10-in-1

No, he didn’t give me any additional information nor did I ask, all 
he said that they are working on a new model with better software. It’s too 
bad they don’t make them so the software can be updated like it can be on a 
Sonos player or many other connected devices, in fact I am surprised now 
that I think about it. Maybe the new Instant Pot will have that 
functionality, it really would make sense since the pot itself probably won’t 
change very much and improvements will generally be software related.
I don’t know if the new Smart will be an 8 quart or if it continues 
on as a 6 quart. One thing I do know is that trying to constantly update to 
the latest devices is probably a quick path to financial ruin, everything 
now has software or is connected and the next version is always better and 
so on and so on, it’s almost not possible to almost get the latest and in 
many cases also not necessary.
One example is the TV. It used to be people would buy a TV and then 
you would have this TV for 15, 20 or even 25 years. Nowadays you buy a TV 
and a year or two later there is a newer, better one with more pixels, 
better connectivity, a larger screen or a faster processor etc. Of course it’s 
not feasible for the average user to update their TV every 2 or 3 years like 
most of us update their phone, but that is what companies ideally want.

Regards,
Sieghard

   

Re: IOS 11.2 update. question help.

[Mário Navarro]

hi Kevin.
Thanks for the help.

I'm talking about the issues in edit fields and double characters being 
entered with BT.

and all the issues related to editing text.
all these problems discussed in the topics on the applevis in IOS 11.
in IOS 10 on most of these issues have been fixed, but there are still some.
now on IOS 11, things got worse again.
This is what I read on various topics at applevis.
can you tell me if you still use the BT keyboard on IOS 11 with the same 
satisfaction of IOS 10?

thanks.
cheers.


Às 19:03 de 03/12/2017, Kevin Chao escreveu:

Hi Mário,

I use a Bluetooth keyboard with iOS 11.2 and do a fair amount of text 
editing.
If you can link to a list or share some core issues that you’re aware 
of, I can verify them.


Thanks!

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 10:57 PM Mário Navarro > wrote:





Hi all.


someone can help?


I want to buy the iPhone 8 plus, but I'm afraid the issues with the
bluetooth keyboard in ios 11 have not been fixed in this update 11.2.
someone can confirm me if all the issues were fixed? especially in
text
editing?
I use a lot the bluetooth keyboard, and I would be extremely
disappointed with the purchase if all these issues are still
present in
this update of ios 11.2.
I can't not confirm this because I'm still with IOS 10.3.3.
and I'm still not completely convinced with the IOS 11 to update
my iPhone.
I think I'll stick with IOS 10.3.3 forever on my iPhone.
and it will be obvious if I buy the iPhone 8 plus, it will come
with IOS 11.

I always had the desire to get a Plus.

thank you all.
cheers.


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RE: Voice Dream Reader and Siri Voices...

[Richard Turner]

Like Sieghard, my crystal ball isn't working where Apple is concerned, grin.
I very much doubt the Siri Voices will be made available to third party 
developers, but the place to ask would be both Apple and the app developer 
where you would like the voices.
In the case of Voice Dream Reader, write supp...@voicedream.com and see what 
they think.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader and Siri Voices...

Nobody really knows what Apple will or will not do, but I think it's rather 
more unlikely than likely they will open them up any time soon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lev
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Reader and Siri Voices...

hi,
does anybody know if these new Siri Voices would be available on VDR sometime 
in the future?
  Leo

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Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

[Larry Smith]

I purchased the insta pot last week and received it last Friday. What is the 
name of the app? I purchased the bluetooth model. Thanks On Dec 3, 2017, at 
12:37 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> Oh, I understand all that, and yes, it would be nice to be able to update the 
> firmware in this, so we will see where that goes.  I know what they told you 
> about being designed to work as an accessible app and let's hope that 
> continues.
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 11:28 AM
>> Subject: RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
>> 10-in-1
>> 
>> As I said, according to the customer service rep the fact that the Instant 
>> Pot app is accessible is by design and not just something that just happens 
>> to be so.
>> I would therefore assume Instant Pot as a company is aware of the needs of 
>> visually impaired users and has made a commitment towards offering an 
>> accessible product.
>> Anyhow, by software update I don’t mean updates to the app but updates to 
>> the pot’s firmware. The app of course is also important as it’s your portal 
>> to the hardware, with something like the Instant Pot the app really is no 
>> more than a remote control which let’s you select a cooking program and 
>> maybe set a timer etc. Of course if the buttons, labels and other controls 
>> in the app are made to be inaccessible that makes the entire product 
>> inaccessible.
>> But the real “smart” stuff happens inside the software and the processor 
>> that is built into the pot and this is where it would make sense if this 
>> could be updated just like I can update the firmware of my router, my 
>> Netatmo Weather Station, my Schlage Sense smart doorlock, my Ring Video 
>> Doorbell or my Philipps Hue lights so it should be possible to update the 
>> firmware of the actual Instant Pot.
>> The issue you describe with the iGrill is of course not because the actual 
>> hardware has become inaccessible, the hardware only communicates with the 
>> app, but here iGrill has messed up by making the app inaccessible, basically 
>> now the remote control or the gateway/the portal to the iGrill is 
>> inaccessible.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
>> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:11 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
>> 10-in-1
>>  
>> I get a bit nervous talking about software updates after our experience with 
>> iGrill and their updates which rendered the product basically useless.  Lets 
>> hope they keep the functionality and accessibility going.
>>  
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com - Original 
>> Message - 
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:41 AM
>>> Subject: RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
>>> 10-in-1
>>>  
>>> No, he didn’t give me any additional information nor did I ask, all he said 
>>> that they are working on a new model with better software. It’s too bad 
>>> they don’t make them so the software can be updated like it can be on a 
>>> Sonos player or many other connected devices, in fact I am surprised now 
>>> that I think about it. Maybe the new Instant Pot will have that 
>>> functionality, it really would make sense since the pot itself probably 
>>> won’t change very much and improvements will generally be software related.
>>> I don’t know if the new Smart will be an 8 quart or if it continues on as a 
>>> 6 quart. One thing I do know is that trying to constantly update to the 
>>> latest devices is probably a quick path to financial ruin, everything now 
>>> has software or is connected and the next version is always better and so 
>>> on and so on, it’s almost not possible to almost get the latest and in many 
>>> cases also not necessary.
>>> One example is the TV. It used to be people would buy a TV and then you 
>>> would have this TV for 15, 20 or even 25 years. Nowadays you buy a TV and a 
>>> year or two later there is a newer, better one with more pixels, better 
>>> connectivity, a larger screen or a faster processor etc. Of course it’s not 
>>> feasible for the average user to update their TV every 2 or 3 years like 
>>> most of us update their phone, but that is what companies ideally want.
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> 

Re: apple watch

[Marie Lyons]

So does this mean Siri turns on water lock?

> On Dec 3, 2017, at 3:38 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marie,
> 
> To turn off Water lock, wake the watch and then turn the digital crown in 
> either direction.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>> 
>> If you ask Siri to set up a swim workout does Siri turn on water lock? If so 
>> how do you get it back off?
>> 
>> Marie Lyons
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Eye of Providence.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Since upgrading to an iPhone 7 I have been unable to get Eye of Providence to 
work.  Whether I use the front camera, the rear camera or a photo that I have 
previously taken the app returns no results.

I have contacted the app developer but have not received a reply.

I know that there are now a variety of apps that perform a similar function to 
Eye of Providence but I have some units left and wondered if any other list 
members are successfully using it before I delete it.  I am running Ios11.2 on 
my iPhone 7.

Thanks in advance for any information.

Malcolm

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Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[lenron brown]

hahahaha I want the new IPhone 6s.

On 12/3/17, pablocmd2...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Sieghard,
>
> My wife is reading your email, and she looks jealous.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> It was released yesterday morning as far as I know.
>
> Of course nobody will report any bluetooth issues in iOS 11.2 because just
> like all other Apple hardware and software it is perfect, there are no bugs
> like in Android and all that.
>
> Pablo, admit it, you hate Android and you love Apple.
>
> OK, for all who don’t know how Pablo and I “love” each other, this is all
> just in good fun.
>
> Pablo of course accuses me of always defending Apple and of always buying
> the latest which of course is the reason why Pablo has an iPhone X and I
> have the much newer and superior iPhone 6S Plus… wait, I got that wrong, the
> 6S Plus is 2 years old, sorry, Pablo, you are wrong *smile*.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Sieghard,
>
> I never left the list.
>
> Why I am going to leave the apple word.
>
> You know how much I enjoy pocking fun on you.
>
> As I have told you that I have several apple devices at home, and also I
> have several android devices at home. Is good that both sides exist because
> neither apple or android were going to improve without competition.
>
> I have found some pages saying that IOs 11.12 had some problems with the
> Bluetooth connection. They advise to restore the iPhone, but it is something
> that I already did, and now I have IOs 11.2. However I haven’t seen anybody
> saying anything about the Bluetooth on IOs 11.2, but it was release a few
> days ago.
>
> Let us wait to see if anybody reports something.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Pablo, welcome back to the wonderful world of iOS, after your last trip down
> Apple Street I thought you’d stay in Android Land forever. I don’t have a
> fancy new iPhone X or even an 8 or 8 Plus, but on my trusty 6S Plus my
> Logitech K780 keyboard works fine. Have you checked on Applevis if there is
> any advice on what might be going on here?
>
> I know Mario posted something about “editing issues using bluetooth
> keyboards on the iPhone 8/8 Plus”, but I’m not sure what exactly he is
> referring to. I don’t use my keyboard all that much, but I have definitely
> used it to write some emails and such and it seems to work fine.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left key
> simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.
>
> The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2
>
>
>
> Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and
> right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again
> if it says quick Nav on.
>
> Judy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales   > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards
> and for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to
> navigate using the Bluetooth keyboards.
>
> One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an
> apple keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I
> am able to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type
> characters, the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So
> I am not able to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to
> do something new to be able to type?
>
> I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.
>
> iPh

RE: apple watch

[M. Taylor]

Marie,

Also, remember that in order to disable the water lock mode, if VoiceOver is 
enabled, one must make certain that Digital Crown Navigation mode is disabled.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 12:38 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: apple watch

Hi Marie,

To turn off Water lock, wake the watch and then turn the digital crown in 
either direction.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
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> If you ask Siri to set up a swim workout does Siri turn on water lock? If so 
> how do you get it back off?
> 
> Marie Lyons
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Re: apple watch

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Marie,

To turn off Water lock, wake the watch and then turn the digital crown in 
either direction.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
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> If you ask Siri to set up a swim workout does Siri turn on water lock? If so 
> how do you get it back off?
> 
> Marie Lyons
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RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[pablocmd2014]

Sieghard,

My wife is reading your email, and she looks jealous.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

It was released yesterday morning as far as I know.

Of course nobody will report any bluetooth issues in iOS 11.2 because just like 
all other Apple hardware and software it is perfect, there are no bugs like in 
Android and all that.

Pablo, admit it, you hate Android and you love Apple.

OK, for all who don’t know how Pablo and I “love” each other, this is all just 
in good fun.

Pablo of course accuses me of always defending Apple and of always buying the 
latest which of course is the reason why Pablo has an iPhone X and I have the 
much newer and superior iPhone 6S Plus… wait, I got that wrong, the 6S Plus is 
2 years old, sorry, Pablo, you are wrong *smile*.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Sieghard,

I never left the list. 

Why I am going to leave the apple word. 

You know how much I enjoy pocking fun on you. 

As I have told you that I have several apple devices at home, and also I have 
several android devices at home. Is good that both sides exist because neither 
apple or android were going to improve without competition.

I have found some pages saying that IOs 11.12 had some problems with the 
Bluetooth connection. They advise to restore the iPhone, but it is something 
that I already did, and now I have IOs 11.2. However I haven’t seen anybody 
saying anything about the Bluetooth on IOs 11.2, but it was release a few days 
ago.

Let us wait to see if anybody reports something.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Pablo, welcome back to the wonderful world of iOS, after your last trip down 
Apple Street I thought you’d stay in Android Land forever. I don’t have a fancy 
new iPhone X or even an 8 or 8 Plus, but on my trusty 6S Plus my Logitech K780 
keyboard works fine. Have you checked on Applevis if there is any advice on 
what might be going on here?

I know Mario posted something about “editing issues using bluetooth keyboards 
on the iPhone 8/8 Plus”, but I’m not sure what exactly he is referring to. I 
don’t use my keyboard all that much, but I have definitely used it to write 
some emails and such and it seems to work fine.

 

Regards,

Sieghard 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left key 
simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.

The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and 
right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again if 
it says quick Nav on.

Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards and 
for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to navigate 
using the Bluetooth keyboards.

One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an apple 
keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I am able 
to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type characters, 
the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So I am not able 
to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to do something new 
to be able to type?

I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.

iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don’t think it  is a problem.

 

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If you ask Siri to set up a swim workout does Siri turn on water lock? If so 
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RE: Voice Dream Reader and Siri Voices...

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Nobody really knows what Apple will or will not do, but I think it's rather 
more unlikely than likely they will open them up any time soon.


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Subject: Voice Dream Reader and Siri Voices...

hi,
does anybody know if these new Siri Voices would be available on VDR sometime 
in the future?
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hi,
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in the future?
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Re: IOS 11.2 update. question help.

[Kevin Chao]

Hi Mário,

I use a Bluetooth keyboard with iOS 11.2 and do a fair amount of text
editing.
If you can link to a list or share some core issues that you’re aware of, I
can verify them.

Thanks!

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 10:57 PM Mário Navarro  wrote:

>
>
>
> Hi all.
>
>
> someone can help?
>
>
> I want to buy the iPhone 8 plus, but I'm afraid the issues with the
> bluetooth keyboard in ios 11 have not been fixed in this update 11.2.
> someone can confirm me if all the issues were fixed? especially in text
> editing?
> I use a lot the bluetooth keyboard, and I would be extremely
> disappointed with the purchase if all these issues are still present in
> this update of ios 11.2.
> I can't not confirm this because I'm still with IOS 10.3.3.
> and I'm still not completely convinced with the IOS 11 to update my iPhone.
> I think I'll stick with IOS 10.3.3 forever on my iPhone.
> and it will be obvious if I buy the iPhone 8 plus, it will come with IOS
> 11.
>
> I always had the desire to get a Plus.
>
> thank you all.
> cheers.
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RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It was released yesterday morning as far as I know.
Of course nobody will report any bluetooth issues in iOS 11.2 because just like 
all other Apple hardware and software it is perfect, there are no bugs like in 
Android and all that.
Pablo, admit it, you hate Android and you love Apple.
OK, for all who don’t know how Pablo and I “love” each other, this is all just 
in good fun.
Pablo of course accuses me of always defending Apple and of always buying the 
latest which of course is the reason why Pablo has an iPhone X and I have the 
much newer and superior iPhone 6S Plus… wait, I got that wrong, the 6S Plus is 
2 years old, sorry, Pablo, you are wrong *smile*.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

Sieghard,
I never left the list.
Why I am going to leave the apple word.
You know how much I enjoy pocking fun on you.
As I have told you that I have several apple devices at home, and also I have 
several android devices at home. Is good that both sides exist because neither 
apple or android were going to improve without competition.
I have found some pages saying that IOs 11.12 had some problems with the 
Bluetooth connection. They advise to restore the iPhone, but it is something 
that I already did, and now I have IOs 11.2. However I haven’t seen anybody 
saying anything about the Bluetooth on IOs 11.2, but it was release a few days 
ago.
Let us wait to see if anybody reports something.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

Pablo, welcome back to the wonderful world of iOS, after your last trip down 
Apple Street I thought you’d stay in Android Land forever. I don’t have a fancy 
new iPhone X or even an 8 or 8 Plus, but on my trusty 6S Plus my Logitech K780 
keyboard works fine. Have you checked on Applevis if there is any advice on 
what might be going on here?
I know Mario posted something about “editing issues using bluetooth keyboards 
on the iPhone 8/8 Plus”, but I’m not sure what exactly he is referring to. I 
don’t use my keyboard all that much, but I have definitely used it to write 
some emails and such and it seems to work fine.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left key 
simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.
The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and 
right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again if 
it says quick Nav on.
Judy

Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales 
mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello all,
I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards and 
for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to navigate 
using the Bluetooth keyboards.
One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an apple 
keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I am able 
to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type characters, 
the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So I am not able 
to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to do something new 
to be able to type?
I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.
iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don’t think it  is a problem.

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Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

[Kay Malmquist]

Oh, I understand all that, and yes, it would be nice to be able to update 
the firmware in this, so we will see where that goes.  I know what they told 
you about being designed to work as an accessible app and let's hope that 
continues.
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 11:28 AM
  Subject: RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
10-in-1


  As I said, according to the customer service rep the fact that the Instant 
Pot app is accessible is by design and not just something that just happens 
to be so.

  I would therefore assume Instant Pot as a company is aware of the needs of 
visually impaired users and has made a commitment towards offering an 
accessible product.

  Anyhow, by software update I don’t mean updates to the app but updates to 
the pot’s firmware. The app of course is also important as it’s your portal 
to the hardware, with something like the Instant Pot the app really is no 
more than a remote control which let’s you select a cooking program and 
maybe set a timer etc. Of course if the buttons, labels and other controls 
in the app are made to be inaccessible that makes the entire product 
inaccessible.

  But the real “smart” stuff happens inside the software and the processor 
that is built into the pot and this is where it would make sense if this 
could be updated just like I can update the firmware of my router, my 
Netatmo Weather Station, my Schlage Sense smart doorlock, my Ring Video 
Doorbell or my Philipps Hue lights so it should be possible to update the 
firmware of the actual Instant Pot.

  The issue you describe with the iGrill is of course not because the actual 
hardware has become inaccessible, the hardware only communicates with the 
app, but here iGrill has messed up by making the app inaccessible, basically 
now the remote control or the gateway/the portal to the iGrill is 
inaccessible.



  Regards,

  Sieghard



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:11 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
10-in-1



  I get a bit nervous talking about software updates after our experience 
with iGrill and their updates which rendered the product basically useless. 
Lets hope they keep the functionality and accessibility going.



  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:41 AM

Subject: RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
10-in-1



No, he didn’t give me any additional information nor did I ask, all he 
said that they are working on a new model with better software. It’s too bad 
they don’t make them so the software can be updated like it can be on a 
Sonos player or many other connected devices, in fact I am surprised now 
that I think about it. Maybe the new Instant Pot will have that 
functionality, it really would make sense since the pot itself probably won’t 
change very much and improvements will generally be software related.

I don’t know if the new Smart will be an 8 quart or if it continues on 
as a 6 quart. One thing I do know is that trying to constantly update to the 
latest devices is probably a quick path to financial ruin, everything now 
has software or is connected and the next version is always better and so on 
and so on, it’s almost not possible to almost get the latest and in many 
cases also not necessary.

One example is the TV. It used to be people would buy a TV and then you 
would have this TV for 15, 20 or even 25 years. Nowadays you buy a TV and a 
year or two later there is a newer, better one with more pixels, better 
connectivity, a larger screen or a faster processor etc. Of course it’s not 
feasible for the average user to update their TV every 2 or 3 years like 
most of us update their phone, but that is what companies ideally want.



Regards,

Sieghard



Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
10-in-1



Did he give you any indication as to what would be forthcoming in the 
new smart?  I don't regret buying this one and if I think there is a need to 
buy the new one I might do that but in an 8 quart instead of the 6 that I 
now have.  I can either keep this one or give it to my daughter who would 
like it as well.  But I think since it would be at that point an older model 
I would happily use it myself.



Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  - Original Message - 

  From: Sieghar

RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As I said, according to the customer service rep the fact that the Instant Pot 
app is accessible is by design and not just something that just happens to be 
so.
I would therefore assume Instant Pot as a company is aware of the needs of 
visually impaired users and has made a commitment towards offering an 
accessible product.
Anyhow, by software update I don’t mean updates to the app but updates to the 
pot’s firmware. The app of course is also important as it’s your portal to the 
hardware, with something like the Instant Pot the app really is no more than a 
remote control which let’s you select a cooking program and maybe set a timer 
etc. Of course if the buttons, labels and other controls in the app are made to 
be inaccessible that makes the entire product inaccessible.
But the real “smart” stuff happens inside the software and the processor that 
is built into the pot and this is where it would make sense if this could be 
updated just like I can update the firmware of my router, my Netatmo Weather 
Station, my Schlage Sense smart doorlock, my Ring Video Doorbell or my Philipps 
Hue lights so it should be possible to update the firmware of the actual 
Instant Pot.
The issue you describe with the iGrill is of course not because the actual 
hardware has become inaccessible, the hardware only communicates with the app, 
but here iGrill has messed up by making the app inaccessible, basically now the 
remote control or the gateway/the portal to the iGrill is inaccessible.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

I get a bit nervous talking about software updates after our experience with 
iGrill and their updates which rendered the product basically useless.  Lets 
hope they keep the functionality and accessibility going.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

No, he didn’t give me any additional information nor did I ask, all he said 
that they are working on a new model with better software. It’s too bad they 
don’t make them so the software can be updated like it can be on a Sonos player 
or many other connected devices, in fact I am surprised now that I think about 
it. Maybe the new Instant Pot will have that functionality, it really would 
make sense since the pot itself probably won’t change very much and 
improvements will generally be software related.
I don’t know if the new Smart will be an 8 quart or if it continues on as a 6 
quart. One thing I do know is that trying to constantly update to the latest 
devices is probably a quick path to financial ruin, everything now has software 
or is connected and the next version is always better and so on and so on, it’s 
almost not possible to almost get the latest and in many cases also not 
necessary.
One example is the TV. It used to be people would buy a TV and then you would 
have this TV for 15, 20 or even 25 years. Nowadays you buy a TV and a year or 
two later there is a newer, better one with more pixels, better connectivity, a 
larger screen or a faster processor etc. Of course it’s not feasible for the 
average user to update their TV every 2 or 3 years like most of us update their 
phone, but that is what companies ideally want.

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

Did he give you any indication as to what would be forthcoming in the new 
smart?  I don't regret buying this one and if I think there is a need to buy 
the new one I might do that but in an 8 quart instead of the 6 that I now have. 
 I can either keep this one or give it to my daughter who would like it as 
well.  But I think since it would be at that point an older model I would 
happily use it myself.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 4:14 PM
Subject: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

Hello,

I have not read that the Ultra has a Sous Vide function, but I have seen the 
stand-alone Instant Pot Sous Vide cooker which seems to be its own unit but 
somehow can also be used with an existing Instant Pot, haven’t quite figured it 
out.

RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Pablo Morales]

Sieghard,

I never left the list. 

Why I am going to leave the apple word. 

You know how much I enjoy pocking fun on you. 

As I have told you that I have several apple devices at home, and also I have 
several android devices at home. Is good that both sides exist because neither 
apple or android were going to improve without competition.

I have found some pages saying that IOs 11.12 had some problems with the 
Bluetooth connection. They advise to restore the iPhone, but it is something 
that I already did, and now I have IOs 11.2. However I haven’t seen anybody 
saying anything about the Bluetooth on IOs 11.2, but it was release a few days 
ago.

Let us wait to see if anybody reports something.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Pablo, welcome back to the wonderful world of iOS, after your last trip down 
Apple Street I thought you’d stay in Android Land forever. I don’t have a fancy 
new iPhone X or even an 8 or 8 Plus, but on my trusty 6S Plus my Logitech K780 
keyboard works fine. Have you checked on Applevis if there is any advice on 
what might be going on here?

I know Mario posted something about “editing issues using bluetooth keyboards 
on the iPhone 8/8 Plus”, but I’m not sure what exactly he is referring to. I 
don’t use my keyboard all that much, but I have definitely used it to write 
some emails and such and it seems to work fine.

 

Regards,

Sieghard 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left key 
simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.

The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and 
right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again if 
it says quick Nav on.

Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards and 
for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to navigate 
using the Bluetooth keyboards.

One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an apple 
keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I am able 
to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type characters, 
the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So I am not able 
to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to do something new 
to be able to type?

I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.

iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don’t think it  is a problem.

 

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Re: question keyboard iPhone on screen

[Mary Otten]

Thanks for passing on what Apple accessibility said. I thought it was just 
something weird on my own personal phone. I will be writing to Apple 
accessibility. Another stupid move. They just broke something that didn’t need 
“fixing“.
Mary


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> On Dec 3, 2017, at 7:10 AM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> No. I called Apple accessibility support about this. This is an actual 
> intended behavior with iOS 11. Annoying as all get out.
> For me it disappears when double tapping the little microphone/dictation 
> button left of the keyboard and doing the same to stop dictation. You'll find 
> in place of the full keyboard, there will be a couple of dictate buttons and 
> a keyboard button. A next keyboard button as well if you have multiple 
> keyboards enabled. Double tapping the keyboard button brings back the 
> keyboard. 
> The Apple guy said that this behavior cannot be disabled or toggled, but if I 
> wanted the keyboard to stay present/visible, to invoke the two finger double 
> tap in the edit field in question to start and stop dictation.
> I expressed my displeasure with this new behavior as I find myself having to 
> God knows how many times throughout the day double click that dumb keyboard 
> button to go back and edit text. That and for me at least, after I bring back 
> the keyboard to click on a search or go or the return button often, I'll 
> trigger the dictation again. That and having to do a two finger double tap to 
> start/stop dictation on the phone really takes away from the one handed 
> device aspect.
> I guess it may have some benefit for sighted folks or for larger iOS devices, 
> but for one handed usage on iPhones or if you simply want to edit text after 
> dictating since it's not always reliable, it's been a major pain. 
> I asked if there could be some way to consider adding a toggle/disable 
> ability for this particular feature in the future. Even if it's buried 
> somewhere in the keyboard or accessibility settings. He said they're always 
> listening to user feedback, blah, blah, blah.
> I would encourage others who find this new feature to be incredibly 
> disruptive contact Apple accessibility as well to let them know of their 
> frustration.
> Cristobal
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 5:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: question keyboard iphone on screen
> 
> Hi Gianni,
> 
> It sounds like you've used a Bluetooth keyboard or braille display recently, 
> and your phone is still expecting to get input from it. If you were using a 
> keyboard, connect it and press its Eject key. If it was a braille display, 
> press SH-chord, Space with dots 1-4-6.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
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>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 7:14 AM, Gianni  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
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RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Pablo, welcome back to the wonderful world of iOS, after your last trip down 
Apple Street I thought you’d stay in Android Land forever. I don’t have a fancy 
new iPhone X or even an 8 or 8 Plus, but on my trusty 6S Plus my Logitech K780 
keyboard works fine. Have you checked on Applevis if there is any advice on 
what might be going on here?
I know Mario posted something about “editing issues using bluetooth keyboards 
on the iPhone 8/8 Plus”, but I’m not sure what exactly he is referring to. I 
don’t use my keyboard all that much, but I have definitely used it to write 
some emails and such and it seems to work fine.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left key 
simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.
The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and 
right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again if 
it says quick Nav on.
Judy

Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales 
mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello all,
I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards and 
for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to navigate 
using the Bluetooth keyboards.
One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an apple 
keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I am able 
to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type characters, 
the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So I am not able 
to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to do something new 
to be able to type?
I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.
iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don’t think it  is a problem.

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Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

[Kay Malmquist]

I get a bit nervous talking about software updates after our experience with 
iGrill and their updates which rendered the product basically useless.  Lets 
hope they keep the functionality and accessibility going.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:41 AM
  Subject: RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
10-in-1


  No, he didn’t give me any additional information nor did I ask, all he 
said that they are working on a new model with better software. It’s too bad 
they don’t make them so the software can be updated like it can be on a 
Sonos player or many other connected devices, in fact I am surprised now 
that I think about it. Maybe the new Instant Pot will have that 
functionality, it really would make sense since the pot itself probably won’t 
change very much and improvements will generally be software related.

  I don’t know if the new Smart will be an 8 quart or if it continues on as 
a 6 quart. One thing I do know is that trying to constantly update to the 
latest devices is probably a quick path to financial ruin, everything now 
has software or is connected and the next version is always better and so on 
and so on, it’s almost not possible to almost get the latest and in many 
cases also not necessary.

  One example is the TV. It used to be people would buy a TV and then you 
would have this TV for 15, 20 or even 25 years. Nowadays you buy a TV and a 
year or two later there is a newer, better one with more pixels, better 
connectivity, a larger screen or a faster processor etc. Of course it’s not 
feasible for the average user to update their TV every 2 or 3 years like 
most of us update their phone, but that is what companies ideally want.



  Regards,

  Sieghard



  Regards,

  Sieghard



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 7:34 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
10-in-1



  Did he give you any indication as to what would be forthcoming in the new 
smart?  I don't regret buying this one and if I think there is a need to buy 
the new one I might do that but in an 8 quart instead of the 6 that I now 
have.  I can either keep this one or give it to my daughter who would like 
it as well.  But I think since it would be at that point an older model I 
would happily use it myself.



  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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From: Sieghard Weitzel

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 4:14 PM

Subject: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 
10-in-1



Hello,



I have not read that the Ultra has a Sous Vide function, but I have seen 
the stand-alone Instant Pot Sous Vide cooker which seems to be its own unit 
but somehow can also be used with an existing Instant Pot, haven’t quite 
figured it out.



Anyhow, I called Instant Pot and was surprised by the knowledge of the 
person I spoke with. The phone connection was poor, but when I asked the 
customer service agent when the current Instant Pot Smart was released he 
immediately told me it was last May. I told him I had ordered the Ultra, but 
that I was blind and found it was not accessible in a meaningful way he said 
that Instant Pot currently recommends not to buy the existing Instant Pot 
Smart. He further told me they were working on a new and improved version 
which should come out in the first quarter of 2018. Since it is not like I’m 
desperate and couldn’t live another day (or week or months or 3) without an 
Instant Pot I will definitely wait to see what this new Instant Pot Smart 
has to offer.

I also asked him whether the good accessibility of the app was 
accidental or by design and he said it was by design. Lastly I asked if the 
new Instant Pot Smart would be more expensive implying jokingly that I didn’t 
expect him to answer this and he answered without delay or hesitation that 
no, it would not be more expensive.

Well, all we can do now is wait and see, I certainly will wait and 
anybody who doesn’t already have one of these gadgets is probably better off 
doing the same. One thing I am glad about is that I have not yet purchased 
one especially since they were not on sale last weekend. I guess if I had 
been able to pick one up for half price this might have been a good deal, 
but I am going to much more willing to pay full price for the new model as 
soon as it comes out without experiencing buyer’s remorse.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1



Hi Sieghard,



I w

RE: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are a large number of online converters, most of them work very well.
Just Google “Online MPEG to iTunes converter”, below is the first search result 
which is very straight forward. There isa button where you can select your file 
from wherever you saved it on the computer, then there are two combo boxes, the 
first one is to select the input format of the file you want to convert and the 
second let’s you specify the output format you want. You then have a checkbox 
which is optional and if checked will send you an email with a link to download 
the converted file or you can just downlopad it on the website after the 
conversion is done.
There are online converters for audio files, picture files as well as documents 
and, as in the above case, for video files. I find them very convenient and 
easy to use and unless you constantly are converting many files there really is 
no point in installing software to do this.

This is the link for the ConVertFiles.com website and specifically for video 
file conversion

Regards,
Sieghard

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Cher Bosch
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter

No- only have one file to convert so I am looking for something simple and 
free. Goldwave is pretty sophisticated and not free, isn’t it? Thanks.
Cher



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter

Have you tried GoldWave?
www.goldwavecom

Richard


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cher Bosch
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter

Is there a desktop (windows) version of this app, or is it only for iDevices? I 
should have specified that the file is on the PC and that I wanted to convert 
it for use with iTunes on the PC. Thanks.

Cher



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gianni
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom
Subject: Re: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter

Try in the app store: Easy Audio Converter
Gianni

Skype: giannijuve
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Op 27 nov 2017 om 01:32 heeft Cher Bosch 
mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> het 
volgende geschreven:
Can anyone recommend an accessible one? Simple to use would be very nice ;)  
Thanks.

Cher
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Re: portable heart rate monitor to assist in my exercise program.

[Aleeha Dudley]

You could try a Fitbit or an Apple Watch. 

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> On Dec 3, 2017, at 10:48 AM, David Whitehead  wrote:
> 
> Hello to all;
> I was asked by one of my client's if I knew of a portable heart rate monitor 
> to assist in my exercise program, and which could be accessed with the iPhone.
> in advance, thanks for the help.
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RE: no service again.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here are the things I would do to try and fix this in the order I would do them:

1. Reboot your phone, e.g. turn it completely off and back on
2. if that doesn't help Remove and re-insert the SIM card and then reboot
3. If that still doesn't fix it go to Settings > Reset and Reset Network 
Settings.

If none of the above doesn't fix your No Service issue I would first check with 
your carrier to make sure everything is OK with your account and if it is I'd 
go to an Apple Store because there is a good chance something might be wrong 
with your iPhone's hardware.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Billy Inglis
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 12:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: no service again.

hi guys Is anyone experiencing the No Service message appearing on their 
iPhones?.
I have recently been getting this message, and of course makes the phone 
unworkable.
I have the iphone 5s with this very issue.
The new update 11.2 was supposed to fix this very problem, but unfortunetly for 
me has not worked.
I updated the 5s at 1:30 this very morning, but as i say, it didn't work for 
me, and the 5s is still unworkable, Billy

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portable heart rate monitor to assist in my exercise program.

[David Whitehead]

Hello to all;

I was asked by one of my client's if I knew of a portable heart rate monitor
to assist in my exercise program, and which could be accessed with the
iPhone.

in advance, thanks for the help.

 

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Re: Important, problems setting up Apple Watch with iPhone 8

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hello,
You're probably right: you're going to have to update the software. However, 
try holding both the round button and the side button in at the same time for 
about 10 secondffs. That may solve your problem. 
Aleeha 

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> On Dec 3, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Lielle Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎ 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Chris and all. Chris, what you discribed was happends with my Apple 
> Wotch2. I know that you have to be on the same version or the latest version 
> that came out for bowth. It could be problems if it's nilot be done. My 
> iPhone doesn't wanted continue until  i was updated to Wotch OS4. That's 
> tereble i know, but in 4.1 it's useble. I suggest to you to update your Apple 
> Wotch to 4.1 before you setting up from sscrach
> 
> Sent from  my iphone
> 
> ‫ב-3 בדצמ׳ 2017, בשעה 17:45, ‏‏Chris Chaffin ‏ 
> כתב/ה:‬
> 
>> 
>> Problems getting Apple watch pared and setup with my new iphone 8.
>> Before calling Apple Accessibility, I wanted to see if anyone has any ideas 
>> that could help me.
>> 
>> Have an original Apple Watch that came out in September 2015 running watch 
>> OS 3.23 that I had pared to my iphone 6 running ios 11.1.2.  I did not 
>> upgrade my Apple watch to watch OS 4 because everybody said that it slowed 
>> there watch down so much that it was almost unusable.  But I had no problems 
>> running the latest version of ios 11 with my watch running twatch OS 3.23.
>> I upgraded to an iphone 8, and that is where the problem started.
>> 
>> I went through the paring process and I was told that my watch was pared 
>> with my iPhone 8 without a problem.  Now it was time to setup my watch 
>> again.  I could restore from a prior backup or set up as a new watch.  I 
>> have tried both ways with the same results.
>> After about 20 to 30 minutes, maybe longer, not sure, I get a pop up message 
>> that says, process has timed out because of activities taking place.
>> I have tried this 3 to 4 times, all with the same results.
>> 
>> My watch automatically goes back to the beginning of the paring and setup 
>> screen, where you choose the default language.
>> I do not know if my watch is getting hung up installing watch OS 4 or what, 
>> but right now, my watch is totally unusable since I can not get it setup, 
>> and again, I have tried setting it up from a prior backup and also as a new 
>> device with the same device.
>> Is there a reset for the watch that is equivalent to holding down the home 
>> button and the power button for 10 seconds?
>> 
>> Does anyone have any ideas of anything that I could try to get my watch up 
>> and running again?
>> 
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> Chris
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RE: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, he didn’t give me any additional information nor did I ask, all he said 
that they are working on a new model with better software. It’s too bad they 
don’t make them so the software can be updated like it can be on a Sonos player 
or many other connected devices, in fact I am surprised now that I think about 
it. Maybe the new Instant Pot will have that functionality, it really would 
make sense since the pot itself probably won’t change very much and 
improvements will generally be software related.
I don’t know if the new Smart will be an 8 quart or if it continues on as a 6 
quart. One thing I do know is that trying to constantly update to the latest 
devices is probably a quick path to financial ruin, everything now has software 
or is connected and the next version is always better and so on and so on, it’s 
almost not possible to almost get the latest and in many cases also not 
necessary.
One example is the TV. It used to be people would buy a TV and then you would 
have this TV for 15, 20 or even 25 years. Nowadays you buy a TV and a year or 
two later there is a newer, better one with more pixels, better connectivity, a 
larger screen or a faster processor etc. Of course it’s not feasible for the 
average user to update their TV every 2 or 3 years like most of us update their 
phone, but that is what companies ideally want.

Regards,
Sieghard

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

Did he give you any indication as to what would be forthcoming in the new 
smart?  I don't regret buying this one and if I think there is a need to buy 
the new one I might do that but in an 8 quart instead of the 6 that I now have. 
 I can either keep this one or give it to my daughter who would like it as 
well.  But I think since it would be at that point an older model I would 
happily use it myself.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 4:14 PM
Subject: New Instant Pot Smart coming soon, was: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

Hello,

I have not read that the Ultra has a Sous Vide function, but I have seen the 
stand-alone Instant Pot Sous Vide cooker which seems to be its own unit but 
somehow can also be used with an existing Instant Pot, haven’t quite figured it 
out.

Anyhow, I called Instant Pot and was surprised by the knowledge of the person I 
spoke with. The phone connection was poor, but when I asked the customer 
service agent when the current Instant Pot Smart was released he immediately 
told me it was last May. I told him I had ordered the Ultra, but that I was 
blind and found it was not accessible in a meaningful way he said that Instant 
Pot currently recommends not to buy the existing Instant Pot Smart. He further 
told me they were working on a new and improved version which should come out 
in the first quarter of 2018. Since it is not like I’m desperate and couldn’t 
live another day (or week or months or 3) without an Instant Pot I will 
definitely wait to see what this new Instant Pot Smart has to offer.
I also asked him whether the good accessibility of the app was accidental or by 
design and he said it was by design. Lastly I asked if the new Instant Pot 
Smart would be more expensive implying jokingly that I didn’t expect him to 
answer this and he answered without delay or hesitation that no, it would not 
be more expensive.
Well, all we can do now is wait and see, I certainly will wait and anybody who 
doesn’t already have one of these gadgets is probably better off doing the 
same. One thing I am glad about is that I have not yet purchased one especially 
since they were not on sale last weekend. I guess if I had been able to pick 
one up for half price this might have been a good deal, but I am going to much 
more willing to pay full price for the new model as soon as it comes out 
without experiencing buyer’s remorse.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Instant Pot Ultra 10-in-1

Hi Sieghard,

I was just going to write to the list and see if you had gotten it yet.  I 
really hoped that you would say it was accessible.  The new pot is supposed to 
have a Sous Vide function which is cooking under vacuum in a water bath.  I 
wasn't to worried about that myself because we already have a Sous Vide Supreme 
and so that would not be as important.  I do not know when this is supposed to 
come out though.  Whatever you decide,you will like the instant

RE: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Pablo Morales]

Yes,  I  have tried pressing on the apple keyboard the right and left key 
simultaneously enabling and disabling  the quick navigation mode.

The sound is always the same, like an  beep error.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Judy Pryor
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

 

Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and 
right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again if 
it says quick Nav on.

Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards and 
for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to navigate 
using the Bluetooth keyboards.

One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an apple 
keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I am able 
to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type characters, 
the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So I am not able 
to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to do something new 
to be able to type?

I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.

iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don’t think it  is a problem.

 

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Re: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter

[Carla Savage]

Hi,  
You could try Switch by NCH Softwares. Works well with a screen reader and you 
get a trial so you could convert your file with that. 
Hope that helps, 
Carla. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Dec 2017, at 6:15 am, Gianni  wrote:
> 
> You can also mail me if you like. Just send it to me personaly.
> 
> 
> Gianni
> 
> Skype: giannijuve
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> Op 3 dec. 2017 om 05:28 heeft Richard Turner  
>> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> If it is just one file, if you can share it with me via Dropbox or 
>> something, I'll convert it and send it back.
>> Goldwave can be used in demo mode, but you are right, it is pretty 
>> ssophisticated.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>> 
>> On Dec 2, 2017, at 6:20 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:
>> 
>>> No- only have one file to convert so I am looking for something simple and 
>>> free. Goldwave is pretty sophisticated and not free, isn’t it? Thanks.
>>> Cher
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:04 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter
>>>  
>>> Have you tried GoldWave?
>>> www.goldwavecom
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Cher Bosch
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:24 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter
>>>  
>>> Is there a desktop (windows) version of this app, or is it only for 
>>> iDevices? I should have specified that the file is on the PC and that I 
>>> wanted to convert it for use with iTunes on the PC. Thanks.
>>>  
>>> Cher
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Gianni
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:22 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroupscom
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible MPEG to iTunes converter
>>>  
>>> Try in the app store: Easy Audio Converter
>>> 
>>> Gianni
>>>  
>>> Skype: giannijuve
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> Op 27 nov 2017 om 01:32 heeft Cher Bosch  het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Can anyone recommend an accessible one? Simple to use would be very nice ;) 
>>>  Thanks.
>>>  
>>> Cher
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Re: Important, problems setting up Apple Watch with iPhone 8

[Lielle Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎]

Hello Chris and all. Chris, what you discribed was happends with my Apple 
Wotch2. I know that you have to be on the same version or the latest version 
that came out for bowth. It could be problems if it's nilot be done. My iPhone 
doesn't wanted continue until  i was updated to Wotch OS4. That's tereble i 
know, but in 4.1 it's useble. I suggest to you to update your Apple Wotch to 
4.1 before you setting up from sscrach

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-3 בדצמ׳ 2017, בשעה 17:45, ‏‏Chris Chaffin ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> 
> Problems getting Apple watch pared and setup with my new iphone 8.
> Before calling Apple Accessibility, I wanted to see if anyone has any ideas 
> that could help me.
> 
> Have an original Apple Watch that came out in September 2015 running watch OS 
> 3.23 that I had pared to my iphone 6 running ios 11.1.2.  I did not upgrade 
> my Apple watch to watch OS 4 because everybody said that it slowed there 
> watch down so much that it was almost unusable.  But I had no problems 
> running the latest version of ios 11 with my watch running twatch OS 3.23.
> I upgraded to an iphone 8, and that is where the problem started.
> 
> I went through the paring process and I was told that my watch was pared with 
> my iPhone 8 without a problem.  Now it was time to setup my watch again.  I 
> could restore from a prior backup or set up as a new watch.  I have tried 
> both ways with the same results.
> After about 20 to 30 minutes, maybe longer, not sure, I get a pop up message 
> that says, process has timed out because of activities taking place.
> I have tried this 3 to 4 times, all with the same results.
> 
> My watch automatically goes back to the beginning of the paring and setup 
> screen, where you choose the default language.
> I do not know if my watch is getting hung up installing watch OS 4 or what, 
> but right now, my watch is totally unusable since I can not get it setup, and 
> again, I have tried setting it up from a prior backup and also as a new 
> device with the same device.
> Is there a reset for the watch that is equivalent to holding down the home 
> button and the power button for 10 seconds?
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas of anything that I could try to get my watch up 
> and running again?
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Chris
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Re: Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Judy Pryor]

Are you sure you have the quick Nav turned off.  If you press the left and 
right arrow keys together it will say quick Nav off or on.  Press it again if 
it says quick Nav on.
Judy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Dec 2017, at 15:48, Pablo Morales  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards 
> and for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to 
> navigate using the Bluetooth keyboards.
> One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an apple 
> keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I am 
> able to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type 
> characters, the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So 
> I am not able to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to 
> do something new to be able to type?
> I don’t know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.
> iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don’t think it  is a problem.
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Bluetooth keyboards on iPhone X and IOs 11.2

[Pablo Morales]

Hello all,

I have an iPhone X, and I have tried to use 2 different Bluetooth keyboards
and for some reason I am not able to type characters, however I am able to
navigate using the Bluetooth keyboards.

One of the keyboards is a Logitech  Bluetooth 3.0, and the second is an
apple keyboard. When I connect each one, the paring process is normal, and I
am able to navigate on the screen each keyboards. But when I try to type
characters, the iPhone beeps like saying error, for each character typed. So
I am not able to type anything with any of these keyboards. Maybe I need to
do something new to be able to type?

I don't know, but if I pair the keyboards to my apple TV, they work fine.

iPhone X uses Bluetooth 5, so I don't think it  is a problem.

 

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Important, problems setting up Apple Watch with iPhone 8

[Chris Chaffin]

Problems getting Apple watch pared and setup with my new iphone 8.
Before calling Apple Accessibility, I wanted to see if anyone has any ideas 
that could help me.

Have an original Apple Watch that came out in September 2015 running watch OS 
3.23 that I had pared to my iphone 6 running ios 11.1.2.  I did not upgrade my 
Apple watch to watch OS 4 because everybody said that it slowed there watch 
down so much that it was almost unusable.  But I had no problems running the 
latest version of ios 11 with my watch running twatch OS 3.23.
I upgraded to an iphone 8, and that is where the problem started.

I went through the paring process and I was told that my watch was pared with 
my iPhone 8 without a problem.  Now it was time to setup my watch again.  I 
could restore from a prior backup or set up as a new watch.  I have tried both 
ways with the same results.
After about 20 to 30 minutes, maybe longer, not sure, I get a pop up message 
that says, process has timed out because of activities taking place.
I have tried this 3 to 4 times, all with the same results.

My watch automatically goes back to the beginning of the paring and setup 
screen, where you choose the default language.
I do not know if my watch is getting hung up installing watch OS 4 or what, but 
right now, my watch is totally unusable since I can not get it setup, and 
again, I have tried setting it up from a prior backup and also as a new device 
with the same device.
Is there a reset for the watch that is equivalent to holding down the home 
button and the power button for 10 seconds?

Does anyone have any ideas of anything that I could try to get my watch up and 
running again?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Chris

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RE: Reading words IOs 11.x

[Pablo Morales]

Yes, probably here we are confusing the navigation gestors. Yes, you are right, 
in android once you switch the navigation way, you flick left or right and you 
navigate on the way how you choose to navigate. Other thing that is confusing 
is that once the voice over cursor moves out of the frame, the navigation way 
changes to the standard that is action. It imply that I need to open the rotor 
and switch back to word by word. In android doesn’t work like that, it keep the 
same navigation way that the users has chosen.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nicola Sanders
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading words IOs 11.x

 

 

Pablo, I think you may be confusing the iOS and Android navigation methods, 
which is easily done if you've had experience with both platforms. I'm fairly 
sure that iOS has not changed in this respect.

 

Best,

 

Nicky



Sent from my iPhone


On 3 Dec 2017, at 01:54, Pablo Morales mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Richard,

You are right. I thought that with the rotor we were able to switch the voice 
over navigation  manner.

I think that is the way how it was before.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Reading words IOs 11.x

 

Pablo,

When you have made your rotor selection of Word, flick down with one finger, 
not to the right.

 

I think that will solve your issue.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Reading words IOs 11.x

 

I am using an iPhone X. It is running IOs 11.2, and I am seeing the same 
problem.

Let me be a little bit more descriptive.

I open the messages app

I Place my finger on one of the messages received

I want to read word by word on the list of messages, so I go to rotor, and I 
select words

When I flick to the right, instead reading word by word, voice over moves to 
the following text message, and reads the hole line, sender, day, and last 
tread in the chat

Ok, then I open the message doing a double tab

Then I place my finger in the last text message sent by this sender

I switch the rotor to words, and when I flick to the right, voice over read the 
following whole line. It is not reading word by word.

Ok, let me try something different, I need to read a code that UBER sent me, so 
I copy the hole line in the clipboard

I go to the text field, and I paste the data stored in the clipboard

I move the rotor to words 

When I flick to the right or to the left, voice over reads the following or 
previous line, complete, no word by word.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Reading words IOs 11.x

 

Where does this happen? Is it in a particular app? I have not experienced this 
using my 6S Plus.

Also, iOS 11.2 was just released today and while what you describe Is not a 
known problem from what I have seen on the list, a lot of other bugs got fixed 
in iOS 11.2 and anybody who has a previous version of iOS 11 should definitely 
upgrade.

 

Regards,

Sieghard.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Reading words IOs 11.x

 

Hi all,

I have a friend who has an iPhone 8+. Also he is using IOs 11.x  last release. 
He has shown me  that when he tries to switch the rotor to read word by word. 
Voice over continue reading as default, line by line. I have tried to switch 
the rotor, and I have seen the same problem in a different iPhone, with running 
the first version of IOs 11. Has someone seen this issue trying to read word by 
word.

Thanks in advance,

 

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RE: question keyboard iPhone on screen

[Cristóbal]

No. I called Apple accessibility support about this. This is an actual intended 
behavior with iOS 11. Annoying as all get out.
For me it disappears when double tapping the little microphone/dictation button 
left of the keyboard and doing the same to stop dictation. You'll find in place 
of the full keyboard, there will be a couple of dictate buttons and a keyboard 
button. A next keyboard button as well if you have multiple keyboards enabled. 
Double tapping the keyboard button brings back the keyboard. 
The Apple guy said that this behavior cannot be disabled or toggled, but if I 
wanted the keyboard to stay present/visible, to invoke the two finger double 
tap in the edit field in question to start and stop dictation.
I expressed my displeasure with this new behavior as I find myself having to 
God knows how many times throughout the day double click that dumb keyboard 
button to go back and edit text. That and for me at least, after I bring back 
the keyboard to click on a search or go or the return button often, I'll 
trigger the dictation again. That and having to do a two finger double tap to 
start/stop dictation on the phone really takes away from the one handed device 
aspect.
I guess it may have some benefit for sighted folks or for larger iOS devices, 
but for one handed usage on iPhones or if you simply want to edit text after 
dictating since it's not always reliable, it's been a major pain. 
I asked if there could be some way to consider adding a toggle/disable ability 
for this particular feature in the future. Even if it's buried somewhere in the 
keyboard or accessibility settings. He said they're always listening to user 
feedback, blah, blah, blah.
I would encourage others who find this new feature to be incredibly disruptive 
contact Apple accessibility as well to let them know of their frustration.
Cristobal
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Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question keyboard iphone on screen

Hi Gianni,

It sounds like you've used a Bluetooth keyboard or braille display recently, 
and your phone is still expecting to get input from it. If you were using a 
keyboard, connect it and press its Eject key. If it was a braille display, 
press SH-chord, Space with dots 1-4-6.

HTH,
Anna


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> On Dec 3, 2017, at 7:14 AM, Gianni  wrote:
> 
> Hi,

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Re: Reading words IOs 11.x

[Richard Turner]

Nicky, that is correct.  Flicking right has always been next item.  Flicking 
down has always been based on the rotor selection.  I have used iOS and 
VoiceOver since its beginning in 2009 and it hasn’t changed in that regard.
If the rotor is on word, flicking down or up will move by word.  If it is set 
to character, then flicking up or down will move by character, and so on.

I think you are right.  Pablo had used Android I believe in the fairly recent 
past.

Richard



Richard


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On Dec 3, 2017, at 4:51 AM, Nicola Sanders 
mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be>> wrote:

Pablo, I think you may be confusing the iOS and Android navigation methods, 
which is easily done if you've had experience with both platforms. I'm fairly 
sure that iOS has not changed in this respect.

Best,

Nicky


Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Dec 2017, at 01:54, Pablo Morales 
mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Richard,
You are right. I thought that with the rotor we were able to switch the voice 
over navigation  manner.
I think that is the way how it was before.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading words IOs 11.x

Pablo,
When you have made your rotor selection of Word, flick down with one finger, 
not to the right.

I think that will solve your issue.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading words IOs 11.x

I am using an iPhone X. It is running IOs 11.2, and I am seeing the same 
problem.
Let me be a little bit more descriptive.
I open the messages app
I Place my finger on one of the messages received
I want to read word by word on the list of messages, so I go to rotor, and I 
select words
When I flick to the right, instead reading word by word, voice over moves to 
the following text message, and reads the hole line, sender, day, and last 
tread in the chat
Ok, then I open the message doing a double tab
Then I place my finger in the last text message sent by this sender
I switch the rotor to words, and when I flick to the right, voice over read the 
following whole line. It is not reading word by word.
Ok, let me try something different, I need to read a code that UBER sent me, so 
I copy the hole line in the clipboard
I go to the text field, and I paste the data stored in the clipboard
I move the rotor to words
When I flick to the right or to the left, voice over reads the following or 
previous line, complete, no word by word.



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading words IOs 11.x

Where does this happen? Is it in a particular app? I have not experienced this 
using my 6S Plus.
Also, iOS 11.2 was just released today and while what you describe Is not a 
known problem from what I have seen on the list, a lot of other bugs got fixed 
in iOS 11.2 and anybody who has a previous version of iOS 11 should definitely 
upgrade.

Regards,
Sieghard.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Reading words IOs 11.x

Hi all,
I have a friend who has an iPhone 8+. Also he is using IOs 11.x  last release. 
He has shown me  that when he tries to switch the rotor to read word by word. 
Voice over continue reading as default, line by line. I have tried to switch 
the rotor, and I have seen the same problem in a different iPhone, with running 
the first version of IOs 11. Has someone seen this issue trying to read word by 
word.
Thanks in advance,

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Re: question keyboard iphone on screen

[Gianni]

Thanks for the help. I tried it, but it wouldn't work. I attached my braille 
keyboard and pushed the buttons like you said.


Gianni

Skype: giannijuve
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> Op 3-dec.-2017 om 14:27 heeft Woody Anna Dresner  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Gianni,
> 
> It sounds like you've used a Bluetooth keyboard or braille display recently, 
> and your phone is still expecting to get input from it. If you were using a 
> keyboard, connect it and press its Eject key. If it was a braille display, 
> press SH-chord, Space with dots 1-4-6.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 7:14 AM, Gianni  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
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Re: question keyboard iphone on screen

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Gianni,

It sounds like you've used a Bluetooth keyboard or braille display recently, 
and your phone is still expecting to get input from it. If you were using a 
keyboard, connect it and press its Eject key. If it was a braille display, 
press SH-chord, Space with dots 1-4-6.

HTH,
Anna


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> On Dec 3, 2017, at 7:14 AM, Gianni  wrote:
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> Hi,

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question keyboard iphone on screen

[Gianni]

Hi,
My keyboard has disappeared. When I try to write an message it doetn't show the 
keybord on the screen of my iphone. How can I get it back?


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Re: Reading words IOs 11.x

[Nicola Sanders]

Pablo, I think you may be confusing the iOS and Android navigation methods, 
which is easily done if you've had experience with both platforms. I'm fairly 
sure that iOS has not changed in this respect.

Best,

Nicky


Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Dec 2017, at 01:54, Pablo Morales  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> You are right. I thought that with the rotor we were able to switch the voice 
> over navigation  manner.
> I think that is the way how it was before.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 7:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading words IOs 11.x
>  
> Pablo,
> When you have made your rotor selection of Word, flick down with one finger, 
> not to the right.
>  
> I think that will solve your issue.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Morales
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 4:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading words IOs 11.x
>  
> I am using an iPhone X. It is running IOs 11.2, and I am seeing the same 
> problem.
> Let me be a little bit more descriptive.
> I open the messages app
> I Place my finger on one of the messages received
> I want to read word by word on the list of messages, so I go to rotor, and I 
> select words
> When I flick to the right, instead reading word by word, voice over moves to 
> the following text message, and reads the hole line, sender, day, and last 
> tread in the chat
> Ok, then I open the message doing a double tab
> Then I place my finger in the last text message sent by this sender
> I switch the rotor to words, and when I flick to the right, voice over read 
> the following whole line. It is not reading word by word.
> Ok, let me try something different, I need to read a code that UBER sent me, 
> so I copy the hole line in the clipboard
> I go to the text field, and I paste the data stored in the clipboard
> I move the rotor to words
> When I flick to the right or to the left, voice over reads the following or 
> previous line, complete, no word by word.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading words IOs 11.x
>  
> Where does this happen? Is it in a particular app? I have not experienced 
> this using my 6S Plus.
> Also, iOS 11.2 was just released today and while what you describe Is not a 
> known problem from what I have seen on the list, a lot of other bugs got 
> fixed in iOS 11.2 and anybody who has a previous version of iOS 11 should 
> definitely upgrade.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Morales
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Reading words IOs 11.x
>  
> Hi all,
> I have a friend who has an iPhone 8+. Also he is using IOs 11.x  last 
> release. He has shown me  that when he tries to switch the rotor to read word 
> by word. Voice over continue reading as default, line by line. I have tried 
> to switch the rotor, and I have seen the same problem in a different iPhone, 
> with running the first version of IOs 11. Has someone seen this issue trying 
> to read word by word.
> Thanks in advance,
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RE: new gesture in WhatsApp messenger

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Thanks everyone.I finally got it now.  

 

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RE: Ringer Volume on iPhone 7 Won't Stay Set

[jerry.berrier]

Certainly.  Many times.  This has been going on for a while.

 

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ringer Volume on iPhone 7 Won't Stay Set

 

Have you rebooted the phone?

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jerry.berr...@gmail.com 
 
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Ringer Volume on iPhone 7 Won't Stay Set

 

The only thing I have tried is setting it to use the buttons and then 
unchecking that.

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hope Paulos
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Ringer Volume on iPhone 7 Won't Stay Set

 

Hi Jerry. Have you tried any troubleshooting steps? If so, what have you tried? 
The only reason I’m asking is I don’t want to repeat things that you have 
already tried that have not worked…

Hope Paulos


On Dec 2, 2017, at 8:19 AM, mailto:jerry.berr...@gmail.com> > mailto:jerry.berr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Even though I check the box that says it won’t be changed with the buttons, my 
ringer volume shows 100% but is actually at about 30%.  A friend is 
experiencing the same problem with her iPhone 7.

Any thoughts?

 

 

Jerry Berrier

508-735-4420

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http://www.birdblind.org

 

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Re: New group, braille display users

[Anthony Vece]

Thank you 

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> On Dec 2, 2017, at 10:50 PM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
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> I just put na in the subject line and then can send my message.
> On Dec 2, 2017, at 9:56 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> Kliphton;
> I am unable to get the message to go through.
> Do I need to put anything in the subject or in the message body?
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Dec 2, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
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>> Hello, 1st let me start by saying I have been granted permission to post 
>> this.  I got myself a new focus 40 blue fifth generation, and found there is 
>> no support groups and very limited documentation out there.  So I created a 
>> group so we can all help each other.  NOt just for the focus series, but for 
>> all braille displays.  To join this group send a request to
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>> See you there.
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Re: no service again.

[Simon Wong]

My 5s is working ok.

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> On Dec 3, 2017, at 3:53 AM, Billy Inglis  wrote:
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> hi guys Is anyone experiencing the No Service message appearing on their 
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no service again.

[Billy Inglis]

hi guys Is anyone experiencing the No Service message appearing on their 
iPhones?.
I have recently been getting this message, and of course makes the phone 
unworkable.

I have the iphone 5s with this very issue.
The new update 11.2 was supposed to fix this very problem, but 
unfortunetly for me has not worked.
I updated the 5s at 1:30 this very morning, but as i say, it didn't work 
for me, and the 5s is still unworkable, Billy


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