My Apologies

[Mama Peach]

I need to apologize for saying that the HULU app is accessible. It is to a 
degree, but it is not 100 percent accessible. I have found that the browse 
feature of the app works very well with VoiceOver, but the search feature does 
not work at all. I am sorry if I gave the wrong information to everyone, I was 
just so happy to see some improvement on the app, and it is enough of an 
improvement, in my opinion, that it is usable to at least browse around to find 
things to watch. Hopefully the developers of the Hulu app will continue to make 
even more improvements to make it accessible like it used to be, but for now, I 
am happy enough just being able to browse again.

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Re: heart rate monitors

[Andy Baracco]

Do you want to just check your heart rate, or to monitor it over time, like 
when you are working out.  Heart Rate Free will give you a check of your 
heart rate.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Terri Stimmel" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:33 PM
Subject: heart rate monitors



Hello everyone,


I don't know exactly how to ask this. So I am just going to do my best.


Are there Apps out that can monitor your heart rate, when using an iPhone?

If so, how does this work?

Also, what Apps are most accessible with Voiceover?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: How do I switch back from another call

[Mama Peach]

Have you seen a Swap button on the screen? That is how I switch from one 
call to another.


-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I switch back from another call

Hello everyone,


I have a simple question. But I can't figure out the answer.


If I am on my phone, and I put my call on hold to answer another call,
how do I get back to that first call?

I can't figure this out and it's driving me crazy!


Any help is appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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heart rate monitors

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I don't know exactly how to ask this. So I am just going to do my best.


Are there Apps out that can monitor your heart rate, when using an iPhone?

If so, how does this work?

Also, what Apps are most accessible with Voiceover?


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: How do I switch back from another call

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here a couple of comments regarding what Mark and Marie said. First, Mark, I 
found you have to be careful because at least here if the other party already 
hung up by the time I press the middle button of the remote the call may have 
switched over automatically back to the original caller and it wouldn't be the 
first time that I hung up on the original caller because I pressed the middle 
button of the remote thinking I would switch but in fact the call had just 
beccome active so in essence I hung up on the original caller.
Marie, the swap button is an option, but again, if you tap it while the other 
call is still active you are in fact no hanging up on that first call. Usually 
I make sure I end the first call, then I find the button which is selected and 
by unselecting it it connects me back to the first caller. Of course the keypad 
may be there so you would have to tap on "Hide" in the bottom right corner 
first before you see all these buttons.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I switch back from another call

If you swipe around you will find a button named "swap". double tap and it will 
return you to the first call.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I switch back from another call

Hello everyone,


I have a simple question. But I can't figure out the answer.


If I am on my phone, and I put my call on hold to answer another call,
how do I get back to that first call?

I can't figure this out and it's driving me crazy!


Any help is appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: How do I switch back from another call

[Marie]

If you swipe around you will find a button named "swap". double tap and it 
will return you to the first call.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I switch back from another call

Hello everyone,


I have a simple question. But I can't figure out the answer.


If I am on my phone, and I put my call on hold to answer another call,
how do I get back to that first call?

I can't figure this out and it's driving me crazy!


Any help is appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

[Donald L. Roberts]

Although I agree that making a big fuss about this is pointless, the entire 
concept is form over substance.

Don Roberts


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From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

And the fact you can change skin tone and that there are dozens of emojis 
representing today's lifestyles showing families with two fathers, two 
mothers, men kissing men and women kissingt women is not representing our 
so-called modern society? Your friend thinks it looks like a 50's person, 
maybe somebody else doesn't.
I personally see emojis as what they are, fun little things you can put in a 
message, they are not photo-quality images and making such a fuss makes 
little sense to me. But then of course it obviously makes a lot of sense to 
you which shows how differently we all perceives these things. Nobody stops 
you in seeking the support of a million people and petition this to be 
changed, but I'm not so sure there is a lot of point to continueing the 
discussion on this particular list. I guess Mark can say it's totally OK in 
which case I just press delete when I see the subject from now on.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

My sighted friend said the figures are cartoon like rather than an image 
that represents an actual person. He said they have a 1950’s look to them. 
Rob, humanity changes and today’s images should represent the people of 
today. For example, almost no one had tattoos
50 years ago. Now, more than half of adults under 35 in the United States 
and Europe have either a tattoo or have died their hair a color that is not 
natural to humans. Similarly, people are bigger now than in the past, Male 
recruits to the U.S. military weighed on average 160 lbs. in 1960. Now, they 
weigh 200.

Kelly



On 3/27/18, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Agree with all this and endorse the mobility/cane technique in particular.
> The Symbol cane is generic enough to serve the purpose for use on
> these graphic symbols.  Red striping is something else here as
> that denotes additional deafness or deaf-blind.   The RNIB
> over here do have such an icon or image with a generic cane included.
> They could stylise if they tried, the wheelchair icon is distinct
> however lacking in minor detail. Road signage has captured this
> technique to greatest effect so far, simply obvious from a mile away,
> as they need to be.
>
> Thanks for your response,  BobH.
>
> Ps:  worth noting that long cane was not introduced until late 60s,
> canes were lightweight walking stick length, and white painted walking
> sticks before that. Ok,  50 years of long cane availability is an age,
> but worth noting it wasn't always so.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities,
> CNET
>
>
> Speaking about making assumptions based on limited experience, when
> using a long cane in crowded areas, where you're moving more slowly,
> you can choke up on the cane so it doesn't extend as far out in front
> of you. It's not dangerous, and it doesn't slow you down any more so
> then walking in a crowded area does. In addition though, when not in a
> crowded area, you can sweep out an area in front of you much further
> ahead allowing you to walk more quickly, more normally and more safely.
> Obviously people can use whatever cane length they want and they're
> comfortable with, but if someone thinks it's tragic to make
> assumptions with limited experience then those who don't have
> experience using a long white cane probably shouldn't be making
> assumptions on how it works and how safe it is or is not.
>
>
> It seems to me that this question could be solved by making the emojis
> a bit more generic or stylized. Give the cane a more intermediate
> length and make the cane simpler without the strap and red striping.
> It'll still represent a blind person but the actual length and style
> of the cane could be interpreted however the viewer wants to interpret it.
>
>
>
> On 03/26/2018 08:00 PM, TaraPrakash wrote:
>> “This is not how most blind people travel,
>> particularly the most independent and confident travelers.“
>> particularly three people that I know
>>
>> Making assumptions based on limited experience is so tragically
>> ridiculous. Nfb is just one of the many organizations in the US The
>> US is just one country in the world. Majority of the blind people
>> throughout the world  including yours truly do not use
>> canes up to their chins   In fact,  you will not be 

RE: How do I switch back from another call

[M. Taylor]

Hello Terri,

As I always use the Apple EarPods when on extended calls, I simply press the 
inline middle button on the cable to switch between calls.  

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I switch back from another call

Hello everyone,


I have a simple question. But I can't figure out the answer.


If I am on my phone, and I put my call on hold to answer another call, how do I 
get back to that first call?

I can't figure this out and it's driving me crazy!


Any help is appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: Join Me In Requesting that VoiceOver Accessibility for Zillow for iOS, Be Restored

[M. Taylor]

Hello Ari,

While I'm almost certain that the decline in VoiceOver accessibility applies to 
all of their apps, the one to which I was referring is located at:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/zillow-real-estate-rentals/id310738695?mt=8

Mark


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englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Join Me In Requesting that VoiceOver Accessibility for Zillow for 
iOS, Be Restored

Oh, crap! I need to write to them, too. Thanks, Mark, for bringing things to 
all our attention. I know it's been a bit weird since I got it a few months 
ago, but it was always something I could deal with relatively easily--the 
situation wasn't ideal, but it was at least useable. I'm hoping they fix things 
and make them even better than before. By the way, which app is this refering 
to? I'm pretty sure Zillow has an app for renting appartments or houses, and 
one for buying a house.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Mar 26, 2018, at 4:56 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Zillow is a very excellent real estate buying and home rental service.
> 
> As OF THE LATEST RELEASE, VoiceOver accessibility for Zillow, for iOS 
> has been broken.
> 
> While some VoiceOver functionality exists, the ability to 
> single-finger swipe from right to left, in order to have VoiceOver 
> focus scroll the screen, as well as the 3-finger screen-scroll 
> gesture, no longer functions as expected.
> 
> Please join me in requesting that VoiceOver accessibility be restored.  
> 
> You may contact Zillow directly by sending an email to:
> iphonefeedb...@zillow.com, or by posting a review in the App Store, or 
> by contacting them on Twitter at, @Zillow.
> 
> The following text was taken from my feedback to Zillow.  You may use 
> any or all of it in your communication with them:
> 
> [BEGIN FEEDBACK]:
> I am writing to inform you that as of the last several releases of 
> Zillow for iOS, VoiceOver accessibility has been steadily degrading.
> 
> VoiceOver is Apple's software screen reading solution for the blind 
> and low vision.
> 
> As of this latest release, several VoiceOver gestures such as 
> single-finger swiping from right-to-left, and the 3-finger screen 
> scroll gesture no longer function as expected.
> 
> As a result, a visually impaired user cannot access the various 
> listing information for a home.
> 
> I fervently request that VoiceOver accessibility be restored to full 
> functionality as soon as possible.
> [END FEEDBACK]
> 
> Thank you all for your support on this.
> 
> Mark
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RE: Join Me In Requesting that VoiceOver Accessibility for Zillow for iOS, Be Restored

[M. Taylor]

That's great, Richard.  Many, many thanks.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Petty
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Join Me In Requesting that VoiceOver Accessibility for Zillow for 
iOS, Be Restored

Done! Thank you.

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M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Join Me In Requesting that VoiceOver Accessibility for Zillow for iOS, 
Be Restored

Hello Everyone,

Zillow is a very excellent real estate buying and home rental service.

As OF THE LATEST RELEASE, VoiceOver accessibility for Zillow, for iOS has been 
broken.

While some VoiceOver functionality exists, the ability to single-finger swipe 
from right to left, in order to have VoiceOver focus scroll the screen, as well 
as the 3-finger screen-scroll gesture, no longer functions as expected.  

Please join me in requesting that VoiceOver accessibility be restored.  

You may contact Zillow directly by sending an email to:
iphonefeedb...@zillow.com, or by posting a review in the App Store, or by 
contacting them on Twitter at, @Zillow.

The following text was taken from my feedback to Zillow.  You may use any or 
all of it in your communication with them:

[BEGIN FEEDBACK]:
I am writing to inform you that as of the last several releases of Zillow for 
iOS, VoiceOver accessibility has been steadily degrading.  

VoiceOver is Apple's software screen reading solution for the blind and low 
vision.

As of this latest release, several VoiceOver gestures such as single-finger 
swiping from right-to-left, and the 3-finger screen scroll gesture no longer 
function as expected.

As a result, a visually impaired user cannot access the various listing 
information for a home.

I fervently request that VoiceOver accessibility be restored to full 
functionality as soon as possible.  
[END FEEDBACK]

Thank you all for your support on this.

Mark

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RE: Join Me In Requesting that VoiceOver Accessibility for Zillow for iOS, Be Restored

[M. Taylor]

Thank you, Paula, I appreciate it.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paula Pinder
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 5:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Join Me In Requesting that VoiceOver Accessibility for Zillow for 
iOS, Be Restored

Hi Mark

I have sent an email to them and hope it does some good.

Best wishes

Paula


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How do I switch back from another call

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I have a simple question. But I can't figure out the answer.


If I am on my phone, and I put my call on hold to answer another call, 
how do I get back to that first call?

I can't figure this out and it's driving me crazy!


Any help is appreciated.


Thank you,


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RE: Good USB flash drive to use with my iPhone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are several, they are all comparitively expensive because of the 
Lightning port and pretty much all require you to use an app to view or use the 
content on the USB drive. You may know that Apple is a bit different from 
Windows or Android, you can't just plug in a USB drive and access the files on 
it. If you are thinking of putting music on the USB drive then you can 
certainly do so but you will not be able to play said music in the native music 
app.

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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:30 PM
To: Google Groups viphone 
Subject: Good USB flash drive to use with my iPhone?

Hi, is there a good USB flash drive that I can use with my iPhone with a 
lightning connector please help thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Having trouble with be my eyes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

This happens from time to time and it simply is a matter of waiting a few hours 
or maybe until tomorrow and most likely the preoblem will just go away.

-Original Message-
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Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Having trouble with be my eyes

It might have to do with the rumored release of a new IOS update, which if it 
is true would certainly jam up the servers.

Andy

- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: Having trouble with be my eyes


Apple must be having trouble. My daughter & I have gotten the same message. 
& neither of us has updated an app or tried to purchase an app. We both are 
still using IOS 10.x. The message started appearing around 2:30pm Eastern & 
seems to popup after unlocking the iPhone after the iPhone has been locked.

Donna
>
> After updating today, (and I am on the current version of iOS) when I 
> tried bringing it up, it said unable to process purchases from the iTunes 
> store at this time. There was nothing to purchase; be my eyes is free. I 
> don’t understand. I rebooted my device, and I’m still getting this 
> message, which I get after deleting the app and trying to reinstall from 
> the App Store it tells me to try again later. Is anyone else experiencing 
> this?
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Good USB flash drive to use with my iPhone?

[Conrad Bennett]

Hi, is there a good USB flash drive that I can use with my iPhone with a 
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Re: Having trouble with be my eyes

[Kathy Brandt]

I was finally able to re-download and set back up again. Someone from Apple 
confirmed that iTunes Store was down. The rep said it in the App Store are 
related, and that it will talk about purchases even if an app is free.

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Apple must be having trouble. My daughter & I have gotten the same message. & 
> neither of us has updated an app or tried to purchase an app. We both are 
> still using IOS 10.x. The message started appearing around 2:30pm Eastern & 
> seems to popup after unlocking the iPhone after the iPhone has been locked. 
> 
> Donna
>> 
>> After updating today, (and I am on the current version of iOS) when I tried 
>> bringing it up, it said unable to process purchases from the iTunes store at 
>> this time. There was nothing to purchase; be my eyes is free. I don’t 
>> understand. I rebooted my device, and I’m still getting this message, which 
>> I get after deleting the app and trying to reinstall from the App Store it 
>> tells me to try again later. Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Re: Having trouble with be my eyes

[Andy Baracco]

It might have to do with the rumored release of a new IOS update, which if 
it is true would certainly jam up the servers.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Donna" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: Having trouble with be my eyes


Apple must be having trouble. My daughter & I have gotten the same message. 
& neither of us has updated an app or tried to purchase an app. We both are 
still using IOS 10.x. The message started appearing around 2:30pm Eastern & 
seems to popup after unlocking the iPhone after the iPhone has been locked.


Donna


After updating today, (and I am on the current version of iOS) when I 
tried bringing it up, it said unable to process purchases from the iTunes 
store at this time. There was nothing to purchase; be my eyes is free. I 
don’t understand. I rebooted my device, and I’m still getting this 
message, which I get after deleting the app and trying to reinstall from 
the App Store it tells me to try again later. Is anyone else experiencing 
this?


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Re: Having trouble with be my eyes

[Donna]

Apple must be having trouble. My daughter & I have gotten the same message. & 
neither of us has updated an app or tried to purchase an app. We both are still 
using IOS 10.x. The message started appearing around 2:30pm Eastern & seems to 
popup after unlocking the iPhone after the iPhone has been locked. 

Donna
> 
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> this time. There was nothing to purchase; be my eyes is free. I don’t 
> understand. I rebooted my device, and I’m still getting this message, which I 
> get after deleting the app and trying to reinstall from the App Store it 
> tells me to try again later. Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Having trouble with be my eyes

[Kathy Brandt]

After updating today, (and I am on the current version of iOS) when I tried 
bringing it up, it said unable to process purchases from the iTunes store at 
this time. There was nothing to purchase; be my eyes is free. I don’t 
understand. I rebooted my device, and I’m still getting this message, which I 
get after deleting the app and trying to reinstall from the App Store it tells 
me to try again later. Is anyone else experiencing this?

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Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Maria Reyes]

It's not for sure not coming out today. I thought AirPower was coming this 
month? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I forgot as well that public beta 6 was already released on March 16, 
> Apple released beta 5 on the Monday and then Beta 6 on the Friday that same 
> week. Doing a Google search for "iOS 11.3 beta 7" does not bring up anything, 
> but I guess it is possible that it was just released to developers in the 
> last hour or so and nobody has posted anything yet. Anyhow, on my iPhone it 
> says there are no updates (I am on public beta 6). I also found no Forbs 
> article about a public release and would agree with others that the initial 
> post was based on siomebody's fake news. If a beta 7 has indeed been released 
> or will be released today or tomorrow then I still predict that it will be 
> the Goldmaster and that we'll see a public release next week, maybe on 
> Tuesday, April 3 or Wednesday, April 4. Please note that this is not "news", 
> it is a prediction based on what Apple has done in previous years and on 
> release patterns.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS 11.3 hits today
> 
> Davy,
> 
> I have never seen an iOS go to Beta 10. I predicted that 11.3 would be 
> released either the week before or the week after Easter. I guess if beta 6 
> came out today there is a very good chance that it is the Gold Master and 
> that the public release will be next week (the week after Easter).
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
> Cuppens
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today
> 
> Hi Eric
> 
> The official word has come out, the fact that beta 6 is released is true and 
> that indicates that ios11.3 will come out in a month or 2 or 3 weeks as 
> mostly one could guess Apple has between 5 and 10 beta releases.
> Regards
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Eric Oyen
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today
> 
> it's either likely he is a beta tester or works for an apple contractor. 
> Either way, he might be in trouble with Apple directly as his info is not 
> publicly available yet. in any case, treat it as rumor until official word 
> comes out. :)
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>> How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wanted to let you all know that IOS 11.3 will be available later 
>>> today probably around noon Central time. It works very well for those 
>>> of you who want to upgrade. the update is about 2.5 gigs.
>>> 
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Re: An App to read medication bottles?

[Lydia]

Amanda, If I got the scriptalk app on my phone can I read the bottles???
- Original Message - 
From: "Amanda Wonkovich-Tolson" 

To: "VIPhone" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: An App to read medication bottles?


Hi All!
Amanda Tolson here from En-Vision America the makers of ScripTalk talking 
prescription reader. Great news, we are currently beta testing our new IOS 
ScripTalk App. It does still require using a participating pharmacy that 
provides the RFID labels, but the number of participating pharmacies is 
growing every day! You do need an IPhone 7 or higher to use the app because 
of limitations Apple has set for developers of Apps that use RFID. Call us 
and we can let you know what pharmacies participate. 800-890-1180. Oh, and 
if you’re interested in beta testing and have an IPhone 7 or higher let me 
know.


Take Care,
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RE: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, I forgot as well that public beta 6 was already released on March 16, 
Apple released beta 5 on the Monday and then Beta 6 on the Friday that same 
week. Doing a Google search for "iOS 11.3 beta 7" does not bring up anything, 
but I guess it is possible that it was just released to developers in the last 
hour or so and nobody has posted anything yet. Anyhow, on my iPhone it says 
there are no updates (I am on public beta 6). I also found no Forbs article 
about a public release and would agree with others that the initial post was 
based on siomebody's fake news. If a beta 7 has indeed been released or will be 
released today or tomorrow then I still predict that it will be the Goldmaster 
and that we'll see a public release next week, maybe on Tuesday, April 3 or 
Wednesday, April 4. Please note that this is not "news", it is a prediction 
based on what Apple has done in previous years and on release patterns.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 11.3 hits today

Davy,

I have never seen an iOS go to Beta 10. I predicted that 11.3 would be released 
either the week before or the week after Easter. I guess if beta 6 came out 
today there is a very good chance that it is the Gold Master and that the 
public release will be next week (the week after Easter).

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

Hi Eric

The official word has come out, the fact that beta 6 is released is true and 
that indicates that ios11.3 will come out in a month or 2 or 3 weeks as mostly 
one could guess Apple has between 5 and 10 beta releases.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Eric Oyen
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

it's either likely he is a beta tester or works for an apple contractor. 
Either way, he might be in trouble with Apple directly as his info is not 
publicly available yet. in any case, treat it as rumor until official word 
comes out. :)

-eric

On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> I wanted to let you all know that IOS 11.3 will be available later 
>> today probably around noon Central time. It works very well for those 
>> of you who want to upgrade. the update is about 2.5 gigs.
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RE: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Davy,

I have never seen an iOS go to Beta 10. I predicted that 11.3 would be released 
either the week before or the week after Easter. I guess if beta 6 came out 
today there is a very good chance that it is the Gold Master and that the 
public release will be next week (the week after Easter).

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

Hi Eric

The official word has come out, the fact that beta 6 is released is true and 
that indicates that ios11.3 will come out in a month or 2 or 3 weeks as mostly 
one could guess Apple has between 5 and 10 beta releases.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Eric Oyen
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

it's either likely he is a beta tester or works for an apple contractor. 
Either way, he might be in trouble with Apple directly as his info is not 
publicly available yet. in any case, treat it as rumor until official word 
comes out. :)

-eric

On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>
>> I wanted to let you all know that IOS 11.3 will be available later 
>> today probably around noon Central time. It works very well for those 
>> of you who want to upgrade. the update is about 2.5 gigs.
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RE: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And the fact you can change skin tone and that there are dozens of emojis 
representing today's lifestyles showing families with two fathers, two mothers, 
men kissing men and women kissingt women is not representing our so-called 
modern society? Your friend thinks it looks like a 50's person, maybe somebody 
else doesn't.
I personally see emojis as what they are, fun little things you can put in a 
message, they are not photo-quality images and making such a fuss makes little 
sense to me. But then of course it obviously makes a lot of sense to you which 
shows how differently we all perceives these things. Nobody stops you in 
seeking the support of a million people and petition this to be changed, but 
I'm not so sure there is a lot of point to continueing the discussion on this 
particular list. I guess Mark can say it's totally OK in which case I just 
press delete when I see the subject from now on.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

My sighted friend said the figures are cartoon like rather than an image that 
represents an actual person. He said they have a 1950’s look to them. Rob, 
humanity changes and today’s images should represent the people of today. For 
example, almost no one had tattoos
50 years ago. Now, more than half of adults under 35 in the United States and 
Europe have either a tattoo or have died their hair a color that is not natural 
to humans. Similarly, people are bigger now than in the past, Male recruits to 
the U.S. military weighed on average 160 lbs. in 1960. Now, they weigh 200.

Kelly



On 3/27/18, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Agree with all this and endorse the mobility/cane technique in particular.
> The Symbol cane is generic enough to serve the purpose for use on 
> these graphic symbols.  Red striping is something else here as
> that denotes additional deafness or deaf-blind.   The RNIB
> over here do have such an icon or image with a generic cane included.  
> They could stylise if they tried, the wheelchair icon is distinct 
> however lacking in minor detail. Road signage has captured this 
> technique to greatest effect so far, simply obvious from a mile away, 
> as they need to be.
>
> Thanks for your response,  BobH.
>
> Ps:  worth noting that long cane was not introduced until late 60s,  
> canes were lightweight walking stick length, and white painted walking 
> sticks before that. Ok,  50 years of long cane availability is an age, 
> but worth noting it wasn't always so.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, 
> CNET
>
>
> Speaking about making assumptions based on limited experience, when 
> using a long cane in crowded areas, where you're moving more slowly, 
> you can choke up on the cane so it doesn't extend as far out in front 
> of you. It's not dangerous, and it doesn't slow you down any more so 
> then walking in a crowded area does. In addition though, when not in a 
> crowded area, you can sweep out an area in front of you much further 
> ahead allowing you to walk more quickly, more normally and more safely.
> Obviously people can use whatever cane length they want and they're 
> comfortable with, but if someone thinks it's tragic to make 
> assumptions with limited experience then those who don't have 
> experience using a long white cane probably shouldn't be making 
> assumptions on how it works and how safe it is or is not.
>
>
> It seems to me that this question could be solved by making the emojis 
> a bit more generic or stylized. Give the cane a more intermediate 
> length and make the cane simpler without the strap and red striping. 
> It'll still represent a blind person but the actual length and style 
> of the cane could be interpreted however the viewer wants to interpret it.
>
>
>
> On 03/26/2018 08:00 PM, TaraPrakash wrote:
>> “This is not how most blind people travel,
>> particularly the most independent and confident travelers.“ 
>> particularly three people that I know
>>
>> Making assumptions based on limited experience is so tragically 
>> ridiculous. Nfb is just one of the many organizations in the US The 
>> US is just one country in the world. Majority of the blind people 
>> throughout the world  including yours truly do not use
>> canes up to their chins   In fact,  you will not be able to walk in
>> developing countries  or in countries with high population
>> density  such huge canes  will slow you downThey can actually be very
>> dangerous for the user   Last time I checked,   Apple
>> was selling it’s iPhones throughout the world  not just in the US
>>   And 

Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Eric Oyen]

ok, who exactly made the announcement? There was no press release from Apple 
(and they are the only bonified source on this). 

btw, anyone who works for apple, is a contractor for apple or is a current beta 
tester for apple are under an NDA and any info they might leak can cause them 
significant legal trouble (including paying out lots of money for violating 
said NDA).
Now, ZDNet carried a story detailing some of the items proposed in the new iOS 
11.3 update, but no actual date was given for release. Until Apple makes that 
announcement, it's all just rumor.

-eric

On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:13 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:

> Hi Eric
> 
> The official word has come out, the fact that beta 6 is released is true and 
> that indicates that ios11.3 will come out in a month or 2 or 3 weeks as 
> mostly one could guess Apple has between 5 and 10 beta releases.
> Regards
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Eric Oyen
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today
> 
> it's either likely he is a beta tester or works for an apple contractor. 
> Either way, he might be in trouble with Apple directly as his info is not 
> publicly available yet. in any case, treat it as rumor until official word 
> comes out. :)
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wanted to let you all know that IOS 11.3 will be available later today 
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Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Eric Oyen]

um, I am a former beta tester and I KNOW better. No

unless Apple announces it, it's rumor (#FAKENEWS) and no amount of chatter from 
"industry sources" is going to change that.
-eric

On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Gordon wrote:

> No I'm in no way affiliated
> 
>  with Apple. A lot of sites were reporting that it would be released during 
> the apple event earlier today. If you google IOS 11.3 you'll see all the talk 
> about it.
> On 3/27/2018 12:12 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> it's either likely he is a beta tester or works for an apple contractor. 
>> Either way, he might be in trouble with Apple directly as his info is not 
>> publicly available yet. in any case, treat it as rumor until official word 
>> comes out. :)
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> 
>>> How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Gordon]

Beta 6 has been here for close to two weeks. So that's why I really 
believed what I was reading earlier.



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Hi Eric

The official word has come out, the fact that beta 6 is released is 
true and that indicates that ios11.3 will come out in a month or 2 or 
3 weeks as mostly one could guess Apple has between 5 and 10 beta 
releases.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Eric Oyen
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

it's either likely he is a beta tester or works for an apple 
contractor. Either way, he might be in trouble with Apple directly as 
his info is not publicly available yet. in any case, treat it as rumor 
until official word comes out. :)


-eric

On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:


How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.

Sent from my iPhone


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I wanted to let you all know that IOS 11.3 will be available later 
today probably around noon Central time. It works very well for 
those of you who want to upgrade. the update is about 2.5 gigs.


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Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi Eric

The official word has come out, the fact that beta 6 is released is true and 
that indicates that ios11.3 will come out in a month or 2 or 3 weeks as 
mostly one could guess Apple has between 5 and 10 beta releases.

Regards
Davy

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Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

it's either likely he is a beta tester or works for an apple contractor. 
Either way, he might be in trouble with Apple directly as his info is not 
publicly available yet. in any case, treat it as rumor until official word 
comes out. :)


-eric

On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:


How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.

Sent from my iPhone


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I wanted to let you all know that IOS 11.3 will be available later today 
probably around noon Central time. It works very well for those of you 
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Re: fake news - Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Davy Cuppens]

It won't come out they are spreading fake news.
Apple would announce new airrpod cases in March, a new iphone se 2, still no 
airpower,, no new homepod ... mm maybe good old grumpy Trumpy had a good 
point on twitter yesterday about so many feak news (grin).


-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Gordon

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: fake news - Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

Forbs reported this. And they always seem to be accurate. They also
mentioned the new iPad that could be unveiled. I guess we'll find out
here in a few minutes.


On 3/27/2018 11:49 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:

Hi Gordon

Tell us please how you know this? Are you working for Apple I guess not 
because if you were you wouldn't tell us this because it is forbidden.


And if you were a beta tester you knew that ios 11.3 b6 public will indeed 
come out today but there is no stable public release yet to come, it will 
come later on in spring in April or May and before someone asks no I don't 
know the date and if I knew I would not tell.

Regards
Davy
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Daniel Miller
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Gordon]

No I'm in no way affiliated

 with Apple. A lot of sites were reporting that it would be released 
during the apple event earlier today. If you google IOS 11.3 you'll see 
all the talk about it.

On 3/27/2018 12:12 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

it's either likely he is a beta tester or works for an apple contractor. Either 
way, he might be in trouble with Apple directly as his info is not publicly 
available yet. in any case, treat it as rumor until official word comes out. :)

-eric

On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:


How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Eric Oyen]

it's either likely he is a beta tester or works for an apple contractor. Either 
way, he might be in trouble with Apple directly as his info is not publicly 
available yet. in any case, treat it as rumor until official word comes out. :)

-eric

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> How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone  
> 
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Re: fake news - Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Gordon]

Forbs reported this. And they always seem to be accurate. They also 
mentioned the new iPad that could be unveiled. I guess we'll find out 
here in a few minutes.



On 3/27/2018 11:49 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:

Hi Gordon

Tell us please how you know this? Are you working for Apple I guess 
not because if you were you wouldn't tell us this because it is 
forbidden.


And if you were a beta tester you knew that ios 11.3 b6 public will 
indeed come out today but there is no stable public release yet to 
come, it will come later on in spring in April or May and before 
someone asks no I don't know the date and if I knew I would not tell.

Regards
Davy
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Daniel Miller
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.

Sent from my iPhone


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fake news - Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi Gordon

Tell us please how you know this? Are you working for Apple I guess not 
because if you were you wouldn't tell us this because it is forbidden.


And if you were a beta tester you knew that ios 11.3 b6 public will indeed 
come out today but there is no stable public release yet to come, it will 
come later on in spring in April or May and before someone asks no I don't 
know the date and if I knew I would not tell.

Regards
Davy
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.

Sent from my iPhone


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I wanted to let you all know that IOS 11.3 will be available later today 
probably around noon Central time. It works very well for those of you who 
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RE: Lyft Question

[joedinero68]

Good Afternoon

 

A quick follow up question. When you look up a price and they are running a 
special is the quoted price the after discount price? I just looked up the rate 
for both Uber and Lyft to my local commuter rail station and Lyft was literally 
almost 2.00 more but if this is the post discount price. Lyft will not be 
considered for my upcoming trips.

 

 

Joe 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynda 
Ingraham
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lyft Question

 

Hi Joe, 

 

I only use Lyft. The fares do fluctuate a little between peak and non-peak 
times. My experience has been the fluctuation is related to the time of day you 
are traveling as opposed to giving riders a promotion, then raising the prices. 

 

HTH 

 

Lynda 

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Subject: Lyft Question

 

Good Morning Folks

 

A couple of Lyft related questions for those who use Lyft and even better yet 
both Lyft and Uber. First question is that Lyft often do discounts do you 
notice that a particular fare that is normally a certain price suddenly goes up 
during those promotions?  Second do you find that either one of these tends to 
be cheaper than the other or do you find them pretty much par.  I have a need 
to use ride share for approximately a week while my wife is in Europe and I 
rarely use ride share so just pondering my options as Lyft is about to have a 
discount starting on the first of the month which just happens to be when I 
need use of ride share. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Re: Revisiting Using DropBox and BARD

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Danny,

BARD books won't work in Voice Dream Reader. It's just offered as an option 
because VDR can handle zip files.

Best,
Anna




> On Mar 26, 2018, at 9:58 PM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Alan. I tried the Files app transfer yesterday, and your
> directions were spot on. I also saw the option to copy to VDR when I
> was swiping through to explore, so that's a definite bonus.
> 
> More Later,
> Dani
> 
> On 3/24/18, Doc wright  wrote:
>> question, why are you trying to add books via dropbox? If you install BARD
>> express on your pc you will find it much easier.bard express will allow you
>> 
>> to check as many books as you like and add them to your wish list. Once they
>> 
>> are in your wish list you will find them on any of your devices in the "get
>> 
>> books" tab under wish list.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dani Pagador" 
>> To: "iPhone for visually impaired" 
>> Sent: March 24, 2018 04:39 AM
>> Subject: Revisiting Using DropBox and BARD
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, Everyone.
>> I'm trying again to download books with BARD from Dropbox. I have the
>> latest version of both apps.
>> 
>> I have copied the zipped DTB files over to the BARD folder in Dropbox,
>> but can't get further than that. I can't see the "Open with" option
>> that the BARD Help file says is supposed to come up.
>> 
>> When the .zip file sits outside the folder and I try to use the Share
>> option, I'm told that Dropbox can't open zipped files.
>> 
>> What am I missing?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dani
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Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

[Daniel Miller]

How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given. 

Sent from my iPhone  

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RE: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

[Cristóbal]

The cartoonish/silly style is kind of the point to emojis though. They're not 
meant to necessarily be accurate and realistic depictions of things or people 
per say. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

My sighted friend said the figures are cartoon like rather than an image that 
represents an actual person. He said they have a 1950’s look to them. Rob, 
humanity changes and today’s images should represent the people of today. For 
example, almost no one had tattoos
50 years ago. Now, more than half of adults under 35 in the United States and 
Europe have either a tattoo or have died their hair a color that is not natural 
to humans. Similarly, people are bigger now than in the past, Male recruits to 
the U.S. military weighed on average 160 lbs. in 1960. Now, they weigh 200.

Kelly



On 3/27/18, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Agree with all this and endorse the mobility/cane technique in particular.
> The Symbol cane is generic enough to serve the purpose for use on 
> these graphic symbols.  Red striping is something else here as
> that denotes additional deafness or deaf-blind.   The RNIB
> over here do have such an icon or image with a generic cane included.  
> They could stylise if they tried, the wheelchair icon is distinct 
> however lacking in minor detail. Road signage has captured this 
> technique to greatest effect so far, simply obvious from a mile away, 
> as they need to be.
>
> Thanks for your response,  BobH.
>
> Ps:  worth noting that long cane was not introduced until late 60s,  
> canes were lightweight walking stick length, and white painted walking 
> sticks before that. Ok,  50 years of long cane availability is an age, 
> but worth noting it wasn't always so.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, 
> CNET
>
>
> Speaking about making assumptions based on limited experience, when 
> using a long cane in crowded areas, where you're moving more slowly, 
> you can choke up on the cane so it doesn't extend as far out in front 
> of you. It's not dangerous, and it doesn't slow you down any more so 
> then walking in a crowded area does. In addition though, when not in a 
> crowded area, you can sweep out an area in front of you much further 
> ahead allowing you to walk more quickly, more normally and more safely.
> Obviously people can use whatever cane length they want and they're 
> comfortable with, but if someone thinks it's tragic to make 
> assumptions with limited experience then those who don't have 
> experience using a long white cane probably shouldn't be making 
> assumptions on how it works and how safe it is or is not.
>
>
> It seems to me that this question could be solved by making the emojis 
> a bit more generic or stylized. Give the cane a more intermediate 
> length and make the cane simpler without the strap and red striping. 
> It'll still represent a blind person but the actual length and style 
> of the cane could be interpreted however the viewer wants to interpret it.
>
>
>
> On 03/26/2018 08:00 PM, TaraPrakash wrote:
>> “This is not how most blind people travel,
>> particularly the most independent and confident travelers.“ 
>> particularly three people that I know
>>
>> Making assumptions based on limited experience is so tragically 
>> ridiculous. Nfb is just one of the many organizations in the US The 
>> US is just one country in the world. Majority of the blind people 
>> throughout the world  including yours truly do not use
>> canes up to their chins   In fact,  you will not be able to walk in
>> developing countries  or in countries with high population
>> density  such huge canes  will slow you downThey can actually be very
>> dangerous for the user   Last time I checked,   Apple
>> was selling it’s iPhones throughout the world  not just in the US
>>   And no, this resolution will not pass in July Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>>
>>> blind person’s wrist. This is not how most blind people travel, 
>>> particularly the most independent and confident travelers.
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Re: Can I deactivate my facebook account from my phone?

[Kimber Gardner]

Thank you, Donna.

On 3/27/18, Donna  wrote:
> On a computer go to m.facebook.com. Open Menu near the top of the page. Open
> Settings. Open General. Go down to Delete, you will be asked to enter your
> password, choose Continue & follow prompts from here.
>
> Donna
>>
>> So how do I do it from a computer? Off list replies will be appreciated.
>>
>>> On 3/27/18, Donna  wrote:
>>> To permaniently delete your Facebook profile, you have to do this from a
>>> computer. Your Facebook will stay active for 90 days in case you might
>>> change your mind.
>>>
>>> Donna

 Hi all,

 Is it possible to deactivate my FB account from my iPhone? If so, can
 someone tell me how to do that?

 Thanks

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Re: External Microphone for iPhone 7 or 8?

[goshawk on horseback]

one I personally like, is the line6 sonic port vx. it's app is reasonable, 
and has a handy monitoring feature, so that you can set the parameters for 
the recording, and know how they will sound. it also has a hardware level 
control, and a lead, so that you can still use your case with out it getting 
in the way. it can be held, or mounted on a standard mic stand, as required.
the one drawback from my point of view, is that there doesn't seem to be a 
wind cover available for it, so it isn't the best choice for field work.

Simon


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From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:54 PM
Subject: RE: External Microphone for iPhone 7 or 8?


I have the Zoom IQ6, which costs about $100 and has an headphone jack and 
works with all the recording apps I have tried.  It is fantastic!

It has a very, very short lightning plug, so if you have a case, you may 
have to take it off when recording unless it is rather thin.

HTH,
Richard




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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: External Microphone for iPhone 7 or 8?

Hello to the list.
I would really like to find a great stereo microphone that will
connect via the lightning port to the iPhone, primarily for recording
videos, or audio interviews.
Some of the accompanying software for some of these  microphones, such
as some of the Irig models, does not seem to work so well, and some of
the hardware can only be used in conjunction with their accompanying
apps.
The cost is irrelevant, I really would like to find a microphone,
preferably with a way to monitor the output through a built in
headphone jack, that will do the best job possible for recording
stereo.
Thanks for any suggestions or recommendations.

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Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

[Kelly Pierce]

My sighted friend said the figures are cartoon like rather than an
image that represents an actual person. He said they have a 1950’s
look to them. Rob, humanity changes and today’s images should
represent the people of today. For example, almost no one had tattoos
50 years ago. Now, more than half of adults under 35 in the United
States and Europe have either a tattoo or have died their hair a color
that is not natural to humans. Similarly, people are bigger now than
in the past, Male recruits to the U.S. military weighed on average 160
lbs. in 1960. Now, they weigh 200.

Kelly



On 3/27/18, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Agree with all this and endorse the mobility/cane technique in particular.
> The Symbol cane is generic enough to serve the purpose
> for use on these graphic symbols.  Red striping is something else here as
> that denotes additional deafness or deaf-blind.   The RNIB
> over here do have such an icon or image with a generic cane included.  They
> could stylise if they tried, the wheelchair icon is
> distinct however lacking in minor detail. Road signage has captured this
> technique to greatest effect so far, simply obvious from a
> mile away, as they need to be.
>
> Thanks for your response,  BobH.
>
> Ps:  worth noting that long cane was not introduced until late 60s,  canes
> were lightweight walking stick length, and white painted
> walking sticks before that. Ok,  50 years of long cane availability is an
> age, but worth noting it wasn't always so.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET
>
>
> Speaking about making assumptions based on limited experience, when
> using a long cane in crowded areas, where you're moving more slowly, you
> can choke up on the cane so it doesn't extend as far out in front of
> you. It's not dangerous, and it doesn't slow you down any more so then
> walking in a crowded area does. In addition though, when not in a
> crowded area, you can sweep out an area in front of you much further
> ahead allowing you to walk more quickly, more normally and more safely.
> Obviously people can use whatever cane length they want and they're
> comfortable with, but if someone thinks it's tragic to make assumptions
> with limited experience then those who don't have experience using a
> long white cane probably shouldn't be making assumptions on how it works
> and how safe it is or is not.
>
>
> It seems to me that this question could be solved by making the emojis a
> bit more generic or stylized. Give the cane a more intermediate length
> and make the cane simpler without the strap and red striping. It'll
> still represent a blind person but the actual length and style of the
> cane could be interpreted however the viewer wants to interpret it.
>
>
>
> On 03/26/2018 08:00 PM, TaraPrakash wrote:
>> “This is not how most blind people travel,
>> particularly the most independent and confident travelers.“ particularly
>> three people that I know
>>
>> Making assumptions based on limited experience is so tragically
>> ridiculous. Nfb is just one of the many organizations in the US
>> The US is just one country in the world. Majority of the blind people
>> throughout the world  including yours truly do not use
>> canes up to their chins   In fact,  you will not be able to walk in
>> developing countries  or in countries with high population
>> density  such huge canes  will slow you downThey can actually be very
>> dangerous for the user   Last time I checked,   Apple
>> was selling it’s iPhones throughout the world  not just in the US
>>   And no, this resolution will not pass in July
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>>
>>> blind person’s wrist. This is not how most blind people travel,
>>> particularly the most independent and confident travelers.
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RE: Lyft Question

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi Joe, 

 

I only use Lyft. The fares do fluctuate a little between peak and non-peak 
times. My experience has been the fluctuation is related to the time of day you 
are traveling as opposed to giving riders a promotion, then raising the prices. 

 

HTH 

 

Lynda 

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Good Morning Folks

 

A couple of Lyft related questions for those who use Lyft and even better yet 
both Lyft and Uber. First question is that Lyft often do discounts do you 
notice that a particular fare that is normally a certain price suddenly goes up 
during those promotions?  Second do you find that either one of these tends to 
be cheaper than the other or do you find them pretty much par.  I have a need 
to use ride share for approximately a week while my wife is in Europe and I 
rarely use ride share so just pondering my options as Lyft is about to have a 
discount starting on the first of the month which just happens to be when I 
need use of ride share. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

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Re: Can I deactivate my facebook account from my phone?

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On a computer go to m.facebook.com. Open Menu near the top of the page. Open 
Settings. Open General. Go down to Delete, you will be asked to enter your 
password, choose Continue & follow prompts from here. 

Donna
> 
> So how do I do it from a computer? Off list replies will be appreciated.
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>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
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>>> Is it possible to deactivate my FB account from my iPhone? If so, can
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Lyft Question

[joedinero68]

Good Morning Folks

 

A couple of Lyft related questions for those who use Lyft and even better
yet both Lyft and Uber. First question is that Lyft often do discounts do
you notice that a particular fare that is normally a certain price suddenly
goes up during those promotions?  Second do you find that either one of
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is in Europe and I rarely use ride share so just pondering my options as
Lyft is about to have a discount starting on the first of the month which
just happens to be when I need use of ride share. Any insight would be
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RE: Looking for quick and easy games to play

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Kings corner and pyramid 13 are both free, quick card games.
God bless!
Paula and Garçon

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I am looking for some quick and easy games to play.  The kind that you can play 
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Re: Can I deactivate my facebook account from my phone?

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So how do I do it from a computer? Off list replies will be appreciated.

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RE: External Microphone for iPhone 7 or 8?

[Richard Turner]

I have the Zoom IQ6, which costs about $100 and has an headphone jack and works 
with all the recording apps I have tried.  It is fantastic!

It has a very, very short lightning plug, so if you have a case, you may have 
to take it off when recording unless it is rather thin.

HTH,
Richard
 



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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: External Microphone for iPhone 7 or 8?

Hello to the list.
I would really like to find a great stereo microphone that will
connect via the lightning port to the iPhone, primarily for recording
videos, or audio interviews.
Some of the accompanying software for some of these  microphones, such
as some of the Irig models, does not seem to work so well, and some of
the hardware can only be used in conjunction with their accompanying
apps.
The cost is irrelevant, I really would like to find a microphone,
preferably with a way to monitor the output through a built in
headphone jack, that will do the best job possible for recording
stereo.
Thanks for any suggestions or recommendations.

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Re: Can I deactivate my facebook account from my phone?

[Donna]

To permaniently delete your Facebook profile, you have to do this from a 
computer. Your Facebook will stay active for 90 days in case you might change 
your mind. 

Donna
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Is it possible to deactivate my FB account from my iPhone? If so, can
> someone tell me how to do that?
> 
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External Microphone for iPhone 7 or 8?

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello to the list.
I would really like to find a great stereo microphone that will
connect via the lightning port to the iPhone, primarily for recording
videos, or audio interviews.
Some of the accompanying software for some of these  microphones, such
as some of the Irig models, does not seem to work so well, and some of
the hardware can only be used in conjunction with their accompanying
apps.
The cost is irrelevant, I really would like to find a microphone,
preferably with a way to monitor the output through a built in
headphone jack, that will do the best job possible for recording
stereo.
Thanks for any suggestions or recommendations.

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Re: Looking for quick and easy games to play

[Russ Kiehne]

   I play blindfold video poker and blindfold blackjack.

-Original Message- 
From: Ann Byrne

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 7:12 PM
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I play four down and 7 little words while I wait ... and wait.
At 08:45 PM 3/26/2018, you wrote:

Hi,
I am looking for some quick and easy games to play.  The kind that you can 
play while you are waiting for an appointment or just have a few minutes on 
the bus.  I am a total vo user.

Jen

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RE: RSS apps.

[llumpkin]

I

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Reyes
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Subject: RSS apps.
Use Lire and it meets my needs fine.

What news / RSS reader do you guys use?

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IOS 11.3 hits today

[Gordon]

I wanted to let you all know that IOS 11.3 will be available later today 
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Can I deactivate my facebook account from my phone?

[Kimber Gardner]

Hi all,

Is it possible to deactivate my FB account from my iPhone? If so, can
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Re: Looking for quick and easy games to play

[Jenifer Barr]

Quizoid? Dice world? The RS games? Zany Touch... (though if you are around 
people that may cause some looks... we wouldn't see anyway...) the blindfold 
games?  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 2:33 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
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> http://hoh.me.uk/games/
> 
> These are online games, but use minimal interface, so data cost is minimal. 
> Interface itself as simplified as possible too.  Good 
> selection.
> 
> BobH.
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> 
> 
> Hi,
> I am looking for some quick and easy games to play.  The kind that you can 
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Re: Cydiaimpactor on mac and apps not in app store on iphone?

[Gianni]

What’s it callled?


Gianni

Skype: giannijuve
Sent from my iPhone

> Op 27 mrt. 2018 om 13:36 heeft Tristan Bussiere  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> It's been a while since I did this, but I believe there is an 'Install
> package...' icon under the device menu. You might try that.
> 
>> On 3/27/18, Gianni  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I’m trying to use Cydiaimpactor to get some non app store apps on my
>> ios-device. The manual says I have to drag and drop the app to my device in
>> Cydiaimpactor. The problem is I don’t know how to drag and drop. Command c
>> and command v won’t work. So how do other voiceover users solve this
>> problem?
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>> Gianni
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>> Skype: giannijuve
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Cydiaimpactor on mac and apps not in app store on iphone?

[Tristan Bussiere]

It's been a while since I did this, but I believe there is an 'Install
package...' icon under the device menu. You might try that.

On 3/27/18, Gianni  wrote:
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> I’m trying to use Cydiaimpactor to get some non app store apps on my
> ios-device. The manual says I have to drag and drop the app to my device in
> Cydiaimpactor. The problem is I don’t know how to drag and drop. Command c
> and command v won’t work. So how do other voiceover users solve this
> problem?
>
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> Gianni
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> Skype: giannijuve
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Cydiaimpactor on mac and apps not in app store on iphone?

[Gianni]

Hi,
I’m trying to use Cydiaimpactor to get some non app store apps on my 
ios-device. The manual says I have to drag and drop the app to my device in 
Cydiaimpactor. The problem is I don’t know how to drag and drop. Command c and 
command v won’t work. So how do other voiceover users solve this problem?


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Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Agree with all this and endorse the mobility/cane technique in particular.  The 
Symbol cane is generic enough to serve the purpose 
for use on these graphic symbols.  Red striping is something else here as that 
denotes additional deafness or deaf-blind.   The RNIB 
over here do have such an icon or image with a generic cane included.  They 
could stylise if they tried, the wheelchair icon is 
distinct however lacking in minor detail. Road signage has captured this 
technique to greatest effect so far, simply obvious from a 
mile away, as they need to be.

Thanks for your response,  BobH.

Ps:  worth noting that long cane was not introduced until late 60s,  canes were 
lightweight walking stick length, and white painted 
walking sticks before that. Ok,  50 years of long cane availability is an age, 
but worth noting it wasn't always so.

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET


Speaking about making assumptions based on limited experience, when
using a long cane in crowded areas, where you're moving more slowly, you
can choke up on the cane so it doesn't extend as far out in front of
you. It's not dangerous, and it doesn't slow you down any more so then
walking in a crowded area does. In addition though, when not in a
crowded area, you can sweep out an area in front of you much further
ahead allowing you to walk more quickly, more normally and more safely.
Obviously people can use whatever cane length they want and they're
comfortable with, but if someone thinks it's tragic to make assumptions
with limited experience then those who don't have experience using a
long white cane probably shouldn't be making assumptions on how it works
and how safe it is or is not.


It seems to me that this question could be solved by making the emojis a
bit more generic or stylized. Give the cane a more intermediate length
and make the cane simpler without the strap and red striping. It'll
still represent a blind person but the actual length and style of the
cane could be interpreted however the viewer wants to interpret it.



On 03/26/2018 08:00 PM, TaraPrakash wrote:
> “This is not how most blind people travel,
> particularly the most independent and confident travelers.“ particularly 
> three people that I know
>
> Making assumptions based on limited experience is so tragically ridiculous. 
> Nfb is just one of the many organizations in the US 
> The US is just one country in the world. Majority of the blind people   
> throughout the world  including yours truly do not use 
> canes up to their chins   In fact,  you will not be able to walk in 
> developing countries  or in countries with high population 
> density  such huge canes  will slow you downThey can actually be very 
> dangerous for the user   Last time I checked,   Apple 
> was selling it’s iPhones throughout the world  not just in the US
>   And no, this resolution will not pass in July
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>
>> blind person’s wrist. This is not how most blind people travel,
>> particularly the most independent and confident travelers.

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Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

[Christopher Chaltain]

Speaking about making assumptions based on limited experience, when 
using a long cane in crowded areas, where you're moving more slowly, you 
can choke up on the cane so it doesn't extend as far out in front of 
you. It's not dangerous, and it doesn't slow you down any more so then 
walking in a crowded area does. In addition though, when not in a 
crowded area, you can sweep out an area in front of you much further 
ahead allowing you to walk more quickly, more normally and more safely. 
Obviously people can use whatever cane length they want and they're 
comfortable with, but if someone thinks it's tragic to make assumptions 
with limited experience then those who don't have experience using a 
long white cane probably shouldn't be making assumptions on how it works 
and how safe it is or is not.



It seems to me that this question could be solved by making the emojis a 
bit more generic or stylized. Give the cane a more intermediate length 
and make the cane simpler without the strap and red striping. It'll 
still represent a blind person but the actual length and style of the 
cane could be interpreted however the viewer wants to interpret it.




On 03/26/2018 08:00 PM, TaraPrakash wrote:

“This is not how most blind people travel,
particularly the most independent and confident travelers.“ particularly three 
people that I know

Making assumptions based on limited experience is so tragically ridiculous. Nfb 
is just one of the many organizations in the US  The US is just one country in 
the world. Majority of the blind people   throughout the world  including yours 
truly do not use canes up to their chins   In fact,  you will not be able to 
walk in developing countries  or in countries with high population density  
such huge canes  will slow you downThey can actually be very dangerous for 
the user   Last time I checked,   Apple was selling it’s iPhones throughout the 
world  not just in the US
  And no, this resolution will not pass in July
Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 26, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:

blind person’s wrist. This is not how most blind people travel,
particularly the most independent and confident travelers.


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Re: Join Me In Requesting that VoiceOver Accessibility for Zillow for iOS, Be Restored

[englishrider91]

Oh, crap! I need to write to them, too. Thanks, Mark, for bringing things to 
all our attention. I know it's been a bit weird since I got it a few months 
ago, but it was always something I could deal with relatively easily--the 
situation wasn't ideal, but it was at least useable. I'm hoping they fix things 
and make them even better than before. By the way, which app is this refering 
to? I'm pretty sure Zillow has an app for renting appartments or houses, and 
one for buying a house.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Mar 26, 2018, at 4:56 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Zillow is a very excellent real estate buying and home rental service.
> 
> As OF THE LATEST RELEASE, VoiceOver accessibility for Zillow, for iOS has
> been broken.
> 
> While some VoiceOver functionality exists, the ability to single-finger
> swipe from right to left, in order to have VoiceOver focus scroll the
> screen, as well as the 3-finger screen-scroll gesture, no longer functions
> as expected.  
> 
> Please join me in requesting that VoiceOver accessibility be restored.  
> 
> You may contact Zillow directly by sending an email to:
> iphonefeedb...@zillow.com, or by posting a review in the App Store, or by
> contacting them on Twitter at, @Zillow.
> 
> The following text was taken from my feedback to Zillow.  You may use any or
> all of it in your communication with them:
> 
> [BEGIN FEEDBACK]:
> I am writing to inform you that as of the last several releases of Zillow
> for iOS, VoiceOver accessibility has been steadily degrading.  
> 
> VoiceOver is Apple's software screen reading solution for the blind and low
> vision.
> 
> As of this latest release, several VoiceOver gestures such as single-finger
> swiping from right-to-left, and the 3-finger screen scroll gesture no longer
> function as expected.
> 
> As a result, a visually impaired user cannot access the various listing
> information for a home.
> 
> I fervently request that VoiceOver accessibility be restored to full
> functionality as soon as possible.  
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> Thank you all for your support on this.
> 
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Re: Looking for quick and easy games to play

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

http://hoh.me.uk/games/

These are online games, but use minimal interface, so data cost is minimal. 
Interface itself as simplified as possible too.  Good 
selection.

BobH.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:45 AM
Subject: Looking for quick and easy games to play


Hi,
I am looking for some quick and easy games to play.  The kind that you can play 
while you are waiting for an appointment or just 
have a few minutes on the bus.  I am a total vo user.
Jen

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Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Appreciate this description and definition, Thank you.
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From: "Richard Turner" 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET



Hi Jewel,
Here is what I found on the web:

Originally meaning pictograph, the word emoji comes from Japanese e (絵, 
"picture") + moji (文字, "character"). The resemblance to the 
English words emotion and emoticon is purely coincidental.
Emoji - Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki › Emoji





HTH,

Richard

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

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On Mar 26, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Jewel 
> wrote:

The word * emoticon is a combination of the words emotion icon, but emoji has 
me beat.  Any
clarification will be appreciated.

  Jewel

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From: "Wayne Merritt" >
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:30 AM
To: >
Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

I'm glad Apple is going to put some accessibility items in the ever
growing emojy category. As stated before, the general populous is not
going to make buying decisions based off of cane emojys, just like
they would not make the buying decisions based off of other emojys. At
least they are recognizing people with disabilities, even if it is in
this small way. I recall not too long ago when emoji's were starting
to be added at all, hearing concern from some blind folk that there
were not any access emoji's. So it's good to see that Apple have
gotten around to it. I still like and will occasionally use the
Braille Badges from the American Printing House; these emojys are much
more than canes and dogs, and are super fun to use, plus they're free.

Wayne

On 3/25/18, Jewel > 
wrote:
Rob!  It is true that I am short, but petite!  I, regretably, am not!

Jewel
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From: "'RobH.' via VIPhone" 
>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 6:22 AM
To: >
Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

I love this comment.  Some of us like petite, me for example.  And to go
against my own previous
comment, sighted getting caught
between their ankles is an absolute classic error they manage.  A cane can
be too long if you cqan't
withdraw it in quick manner to
free from such a trap.  Mine is just about Sternum and needs to be pulled to
the perpendicular
without hitting me under the chin.
Mine is designed to achieve this,...   I just hated the RNIB offerings,
which are about the standard
offering the rest are stuck
with.

RobH, hopes to get off mobility aids as such, soon now, and sorry I fell for
the bait too.

BobH.

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From: "Jewel" >
To: >
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET


I * used to be 5 feet:  in my younger days, 5 feet 1 inch:  mustn't forget
that precious 1 inch:
but, either everything in my house is growing, or I, shudder..shudder and
perish the thought, am
getting shorter.  I swear that, hardly, a day goes by when I don't have to
stand on less and less
toe tip to reach shelves.
and Christopher!  you don't know how short our streets are! so I might not
have been exaggerating
when I wrote of a chin-high long cane warning me of an obstacle, for
instance,  an unsuspecting
pedestrian who has just found the tip of a cane inserting itself between
his/her ankles, when I, the
cane wielder, was still only halfway down it.

  Jewel

--
From: "Deidre Muccio" 
>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 3:06 AM
To: >
Subject: Re: Apple proposes new emojis for people with disabilities, CNET

Christopher, Perhaps you have not been following Jewel's post for a long
time now.  you don't grasp
her usual tongue and cheek or brand of Eumar. I would say that If Jewel is
used to using a 3 foot
Kane then a 5 foot Kane is indeed going to seem like it's turning the corner
long before she needs
to turn a corner. I had also experience the same feeling when I use Kane's
that were measured up to
my chin as oppposed to up to my sternum. I find using a 3 foot cane, On the
other hand,  too short
for me and makes me feel like I am