Re: Notifications in iOS 13.1.3

[Davy Cuppens]

I have had this happen for 3 years and the only thing you can do about it is 
restore to factory settings and rebegin.

Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: goshawk on horseback

Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notifications in iOS 13.1.3

one of my apps has also given this issue, but wasn't sure if it was down to
IOS, or the latest update of the actual app, so will give this a go. thanks.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: Notifications in iOS 13.1.3


Hello Andrew,

I have not noticed any changes in any of my app notifications.

While you could definitely try the "reset all settings" options, were I you,
I would simply disable/re enable the various app notifications in question
and see if that solves the problem.

No, you should not have to do this but, with all of the strange and
seemingly inconsistent behavior many of us are experiencing in iOS 13.x,
nothing surprises me, anymore.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andrew Roberts
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Notifications in iOS 13.1.3

Hi,

Since updating to iOS 13.1.3 I am not receiving notifications from the
majority of my apps even though I haven’t changed any of the settings.  Has
anyone else noticed this and is there anything I can do about it?

Many thanks for any help forthcoming,

Andrew
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Re: Notifications in iOS 13.1.3

[Davy Cuppens]

That is true, I have some newspaper apps that leave me alone after a while 
because I do listen to their notifications but rarely open them up. When you 
open them once you get your notifications back.

Davy

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From: Robin Frost

Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 11:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notifications in iOS 13.1.3

Hi,
Before disabling and re-enabling notifications merely open the apps
sometimes by me anyway just launching them revives their notifications. But
if that fails it couldn't hurt to disable and then re-enable them again.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Notifications in iOS 13.1.3

Hello Andrew,

I have not noticed any changes in any of my app notifications.

While you could definitely try the "reset all settings" options, were I you,
I would simply disable/re enable the various app notifications in question
and see if that solves the problem.

No, you should not have to do this but, with all of the strange and
seemingly inconsistent behavior many of us are experiencing in iOS 13.x,
nothing surprises me, anymore.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andrew Roberts
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 12:09 PM
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Subject: Notifications in iOS 13.1.3

Hi,

Since updating to iOS 13.1.3 I am not receiving notifications from the
majority of my apps even though I haven’t changed any of the settings.  Has
anyone else noticed this and is there anything I can do about it?

Many thanks for any help forthcoming,

Andrew
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Re: considering Apple watch

[Ann Byrne]

I don't like my Apple watch because it doesn't reliably tell the time 
without speaking.  It may be operator error, but I have tried 
repeatedly to make haptic time work ... and sometimes it 
does.  However, often the watch speaks the time instead of vibrating 
it.  I sometimes wear my Seiko Braille watch because I can count on 
it to be silent.  and my phone gives me all the messages and news 
headlines that I want.  One setting I have enabled is supposed to 
make the watch stop talking when you place your palm over it.  Mine 
seems to feel it has to finish the thought before it will stop, palm 
over or not.


However.  The Apple watch includes exercise goal setting that I don't 
have otherwise--how many hours I stood for at least a minute, how 
many minutes I actually exercised ... current heart rate, heart rate 
min and max at six hour intervals.  I'm old, so I like to track that 
once in a while.


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Re: File Sharing with iOS 13.1.3 and iTunes for Windows Version 12.10.1.4

[Russ Kiehne]

It looks like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed.  Let us know if they can 
fix the issue?

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: File Sharing with iOS 13.1.3 and iTunes for Windows Version 
12.10.1.4

I knew you culd Russ, but I don’t have an add button.

I had my wife check and she didn’t see one anywhere.

As usual, my system has some odd behaviors.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

Richard

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 6:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File Sharing with iOS 13.1.3 and iTunes for Windows Version 
12.10.1.4

 

I was able to use File Sharing between iTunes for Windows and an ipad mini 4 
running iOS 13.1.3.  I was able to tab over to the add button and import a zip 
file.

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 10:19 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: File Sharing with iOS 13.1.3 and iTunes for Windows Version 12.10.1.4

 

Has anyone been able to use File Sharing between iTunes for Windows and an 
iPhone running iOS 13.1.3?

When I navigate to the File Sharing in iTunes, and then tab to the 
applications, arrow down to Voice Dream Reader, and tab, there is no Add 
document button.

 

Anyone else having this issue?

 

Before I call Apple Accessibility, I wanted to know if it is unique to my 
devices.

 

Thanks very much,

Richard

 

 

 

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calendars

[Vicki W.]

I am wondering what the most accessible calendar is with VO? Right now, the 
only two that are active on my phone are the one associated with my e-mail 
address (GMail) and  ICloud with both home and work.

Are there others I might try which work better?

Thanks.

Vicki

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RE: considering Apple watch

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Which series of watch do you have? I find on my new fifth generation watch it's 
very rare that haptic time does not work if I make sure to give it the 2 or 3 
taps required (depending on whether I want hours included or not) nice and 
deliberately and of course you have to make sure you disable raise to wake and 
all that stuff.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 4:55 AM
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I don't like my Apple watch because it doesn't reliably tell the time without 
speaking.  It may be operator error, but I have tried repeatedly to make haptic 
time work ... and sometimes it does.  However, often the watch speaks the time 
instead of vibrating it.  I sometimes wear my Seiko Braille watch because I can 
count on it to be silent.  and my phone gives me all the messages and news 
headlines that I want.  One setting I have enabled is supposed to make the 
watch stop talking when you place your palm over it.  Mine seems to feel it has 
to finish the thought before it will stop, palm over or not.

However.  The Apple watch includes exercise goal setting that I don't have 
otherwise--how many hours I stood for at least a minute, how many minutes I 
actually exercised ... current heart rate, heart rate min and max at six hour 
intervals.  I'm old, so I like to track that once in a while.

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Re: calendars

[Richard Turner]

Fantastical 2 for iPhone, $4.99.

It pulls the information from your iPhone.

If Gmail is your default calendar source, it will use it.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fantastical-2-for-iphone-calendar/id718043190?mt=8




Richard
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:04 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:


I am wondering what the most accessible calendar is with VO? Right now, the 
only two that are active on my phone are the one associated with my e-mail 
address (GMail) and  ICloud with both home and work.

Are there others I might try which work better?

Thanks.

Vicki


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RE: calendars

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

I would also highly recommend fantastical 2.  It’s well worth the money. When 
you add an event you can do it all in one sentence, title, date, time and if 
you want to add repeats.  It’s also easy to check your upcoming events.

 

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 10:05 AM
To: IPhone
Subject: calendars

 

I am wondering what the most accessible calendar is with VO? Right now, the 
only two that are active on my phone are the one associated with my e-mail 
address (GMail) and  ICloud with both home and work.

 

Are there others I might try which work better?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

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Re: Twitterrific's Contex menu New Tweet item

[Gerardo Corripio]

What I’m trying to say is that on iOS13, double-tap and hold brings up what’s 
called a context menu, right? Within that Context menu, yu now have an option 
“New Tweet” which isn’t reliable as I’d like, thus I changed back for the time 
being,while Twitterrific, fixes this issue, to Tweetings, in which the “New 
Tweet” rom the Context menu, is very reliable!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 20 oct 2019, a la(s) 10:43 p. m., Christina  
> escribió:
> 
> I don’t understand specifically what you are referring to. Are you talking 
> about the 2 finger tap that brings up the compose tweet thing or something 
> else? I am having a lot of problems when on a tweet and I flick down until I 
> hear more options. When I double tap, it does all kinds of weird stuff and I 
> have to explore by touch or sometimes even close a window to get to those 
> options like muffle, mute, etc.
> 
> Christina
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> Is it only me, or do you'll who use Twitterrific find that its New Tweet 
>> Contex menu item isn't that reliable to work with? I'd say maybe out of 5 
>> times, maybe 2 or 3 at the most, brings you to the edit field where you can 
>> start tweeting. I'm using Twitterrific's latest, as well as iOS's latest if 
>> this helps any.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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Re: [BlindSquareGPS] disabling aira announcement

[Marie Lyons]

Hi 


Thanks for sending this! Yesterday, I got a little off course.  I was running 
Blind Square but was continually getting those AIRA announcements and not my 
location.

Marie Lyons 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2019, at 10:04 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, and then as soon as you start the app again, you have to repeat that.
> This turns it off permanently for those who find it unnecessary.
> To each his/her own.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 6:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindSquareGPS] disabling aira announcement
>  
> Hi,
> Enabling or disabling local info on the app itself has worked for me for AIRA 
> announcements.
> 1.
> 
>  Open BlindSquare.
> 2. Locate Local info Search.
> 3. Swipe up or down with a single fingerSwipe up or down with a single finger 
> to locate on and double tap to enable or locate off and double tap to disable.
>  Feliciano
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> 
> On Oct 20, 2019, at 5:45 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  For anyone who updated to the latest Blind Square and are finding the Aira 
> announcements to be annoying, here is a way to permanently remove those 
> announcements from one of the developers.
> Just double tap on the link rather than copying and pasting.
> Begin forwarded message:
>  
> From: Rob Nevin 
> Date: October 20, 2019 at 5:28:26 AM PDT
> To: "blindsquare...@groups.io" 
> Cc: "supp...@blindsquare.com" 
> Subject: Re:  [BlindSquareGPS] disabling aira announcement
> Reply-To: blindsquare...@groups.io
> 
> 
> Good morning Al (and all).
>  
> You can, at this time, permanently disable the AIRA advisory.   We recognize, 
> in areas where there is a high density of free access areas (wonderful!) that 
> the alert for each can be less than desired.
>  
> To disable, you can use either of the following two switches.  One to 
> disable, one to re-enable (as there are AIRA enhancements in the works). 
>  
> To use the switches, simply copy the string and paste it (just as if it was a 
> URL) in Safari, then run it.   The first switch will disable the AIRA alerts. 
>  The second, which you can use down-stream, reactivates.   
> Blindsquare://activate?aira.disable=1
> 
> Blindsquare://activate?aira.disable=0
> 
> Thanks for the feedback, we listen and will respond with AIRA specific 
> updates.  Thanks to our friends at AIRA, for providing a great service for 
> the many communities we serve.
> 
> Rob
> 
>  
> On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 07:15, Alan Robbins  wrote:
> Well I found in the release notes on the latest version a way to temporarily 
> disable this annoying announcement. It seems to me a lot of work to get this 
> disabled and we need to do this each time the app is launched. I really feel 
> that this feature needs to have a way to permanently turn this feature on or 
> off. Hopefully this can be fixed very quickly
> 
> 
> On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:50 AM, Alan Robbins  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Just updated to the latest build of Blind Square. How do I permanently 
> disable that annoying aira announcement?
>  
> Best,
> Al
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Re: calendars

[Vicki W.]

I was asking more which is the best default calendar to use for the phone. I'm 
not liking the gmail calendar. I know Google has one and I have the ICloud 
which I've never tried. Is Gmail the best to use with Fantastical II or would 
another calendar allow more info? 

Vicki
 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 7:28 AM
  Subject: Re: calendars


  Fantastical 2 for iPhone, $4.99.

  It pulls the information from your iPhone.

  If Gmail is your default calendar source, it will use it.

  
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fantastical-2-for-iphone-calendar/id718043190?mt=8










  Richard
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:04 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:


 
I am wondering what the most accessible calendar is with VO? Right now, the 
only two that are active on my phone are the one associated with my e-mail 
address (GMail) and  ICloud with both home and work.

Are there others I might try which work better?

Thanks.

Vicki


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Re: calendars

[Anthony Vece]

It’s personal preference.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Oct 21, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was asking more which is the best default calendar to use for the phone. 
> I'm not liking the gmail calendar. I know Google has one and I have the 
> ICloud which I've never tried. Is Gmail the best to use with Fantastical II 
> or would another calendar allow more info?
>  
> Vicki
>  
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 7:28 AM
> Subject: Re: calendars
> 
> Fantastical 2 for iPhone, $4.99.
> It pulls the information from your iPhone.
> If Gmail is your default calendar source, it will use it.
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fantastical-2-for-iphone-calendar/id718043190?mt=8
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> Wagner
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> 
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>> 
>> I am wondering what the most accessible calendar is with VO? Right now, the 
>> only two that are active on my phone are the one associated with my e-mail 
>> address (GMail) and  ICloud with both home and work.
>>  
>> Are there others I might try which work better?
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Vicki
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Call Blocking Apparel: [External] Re: calendars

[Cook, Steve]

Hi All,

I have an iPhone XR running 13.13 on the Spectrum network.  I am looking for an 
app to use to block these telemarketers  that keep calling.  Yes, I know about 
being able to block callers.

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RE: calendars

[Albert Ruel]

I use a Google Calendar that is synchronized to my PC in Outlook and to 
Fantastical and VO Calendar in my iPhone XR.  Fantastical is great for 
inserting appointments because you can do it all on one line of text, however 
VO Calendar is great for looking at each day or week at a glance.  Oh, and the 
other way I add to and check my calendar is through either Alexa or the Google 
Assistant.  In fact, I likely use Alexa and G A for most of my appointment 
insertions and checks.  Alexa, what’s on my calendar this afternoon?  

 

Thx, Albert

 

 

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  albertr...@gmail.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: calendars

 

I would also highly recommend fantastical 2.  It’s well worth the money. When 
you add an event you can do it all in one sentence, title, date, time and if 
you want to add repeats.  It’s also easy to check your upcoming events.

 

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 10:05 AM
To: IPhone
Subject: calendars

 

I am wondering what the most accessible calendar is with VO? Right now, the 
only two that are active on my phone are the one associated with my e-mail 
address (GMail) and  ICloud with both home and work.

 

Are there others I might try which work better?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

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Re: Call Blocking Apparel: [External] Re: calendars

[Richard Turner]

Open Phone settings, go down toward the bottom to silence unknown callers.
Enable that.
Then anyone not in your contacts will not ring.
They will show up in recent calls and they can leave voice mails, but you won't 
know that until you check the phone app.




Richard
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Cook, Steve  wrote:


Hi All,

I have an iPhone XR running 13.13 on the Spectrum network.  I am looking for an 
app to use to block these telemarketers  that keep calling.  Yes, I know about 
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Reading Shortcut Keys

[kelly]

Hi,

 

Many iOS apps list the keyboard commands when you hold down the cmd key.
How do you read this info with VoiceOver?

 

Thank you,

 

Kelly

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Re: Reading Shortcut Keys

[Richard Turner]

I have not run into this.
Could you give specific examples of apps that do this?
You are saying just holding down the Command Key, right?
I've tried in Mail, Message, Phone, and nothing happens.





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On Oct 21, 2019, at 5:33 PM, "ke...@kellford.com"  wrote:


Hi,

Many iOS apps list the keyboard commands when you hold down the cmd key.  How 
do you read this info with VoiceOver?

Thank you,

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RE: Reading Shortcut Keys

[kelly]

Hi,

 

According to different Apple documentation and a developer I was talking to, if 
you hold down the cmd key, apps should list there shortcuts.  I don’t know if 
the listing of the keys is specific to the iPad or if it also works on the 
phone.

 

I couldn’t get any keys in apps I know support them to show on my phone, 
independent of VoiceOver.

 

Kelly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading Shortcut Keys

 

I have not run into this. 

Could you give specific examples of apps that do this?

You are saying just holding down the Command Key, right?

I've tried in Mail, Message, Phone, and nothing happens.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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Hi,

 

Many iOS apps list the keyboard commands when you hold down the cmd key.  How 
do you read this info with VoiceOver?

 

Thank you,

 

Kelly

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IOS 13.3 bug

[Keao wright]

Hi,
My phone is silent now, I lost all speech and sounds.
Should I get a sighted person to do a had reset?
It's the same bug where you end a call and voice over goes away so does siri
and sounds.
How do I reboot the phone again?
I only feel vibrations again.

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RE: IOS 13.3 bug

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I recommend a hard reset, but it depends on  your device as to how you 
accomplish it.
On the iPhone 6S and prior you push and hold the home button and side button 
simultaneously for about 12 seconds.
On the iPhone 8 you push volume up, then volume down and then push and hold the 
side button for about 12 seconds.
Not sure how it works on the iPhone X, XR/XS and 11/11S


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Hi,
My phone is silent now, I lost all speech and sounds.
Should I get a sighted person to do a had reset?
It's the same bug where you end a call and voice over goes away so does siri 
and sounds.
How do I reboot the phone again?
I only feel vibrations again.

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RE: IOS 13.3 bug

[Keao wright]

Ok, thanks, I have the Iphone 8
I don't hear speech on up yet, but I will try it again.
I don't want to also trigger the emergency people.

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Subject: RE: IOS 13.3 bug

I recommend a hard reset, but it depends on  your device as to how you 
accomplish it.
On the iPhone 6S and prior you push and hold the home button and side button 
simultaneously for about 12 seconds.
On the iPhone 8 you push volume up, then volume down and then push and hold the 
side button for about 12 seconds.
Not sure how it works on the iPhone X, XR/XS and 11/11S


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Hi,
My phone is silent now, I lost all speech and sounds.
Should I get a sighted person to do a had reset?
It's the same bug where you end a call and voice over goes away so does siri 
and sounds.
How do I reboot the phone again?
I only feel vibrations again.

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Re: IOS 13.3 bug

[Richard Turner]

I'm fairly sure the X phones and 11's use the same steps as the 8, but someone 
will correct me if I'm wrong.
In my experience it only takes 6 to 8 seconds. If you have an earphone in, you 
can hear a faint click when it reboots.




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On Oct 21, 2019, at 8:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I recommend a hard reset, but it depends on  your device as to how you 
accomplish it.
On the iPhone 6S and prior you push and hold the home button and side button 
simultaneously for about 12 seconds.
On the iPhone 8 you push volume up, then volume down and then push and hold the 
side button for about 12 seconds.
Not sure how it works on the iPhone X, XR/XS and 11/11S


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Subject: IOS 13.3 bug

Hi,
My phone is silent now, I lost all speech and sounds.
Should I get a sighted person to do a had reset?
It's the same bug where you end a call and voice over goes away so does siri 
and sounds.
How do I reboot the phone again?
I only feel vibrations again.

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RE: IOS 13.3 bug

[Keao wright]

So should I do the volume up and down and hold the button the side one for 10 
seconds or 8?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.3 bug

 

I'm fairly sure the X phones and 11's use the same steps as the 8, but someone 
will correct me if I'm wrong. 

In my experience it only takes 6 to 8 seconds. If you have an earphone in, you 
can hear a faint click when it reboots.

 

 

 

Richard

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On Oct 21, 2019, at 8:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

I recommend a hard reset, but it depends on  your device as to how you 
accomplish it.
On the iPhone 6S and prior you push and hold the home button and side button 
simultaneously for about 12 seconds.
On the iPhone 8 you push volume up, then volume down and then push and hold the 
side button for about 12 seconds.
Not sure how it works on the iPhone X, XR/XS and 11/11S


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Keao 
wright
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: IOS 13.3 bug

Hi,
My phone is silent now, I lost all speech and sounds.
Should I get a sighted person to do a had reset?
It's the same bug where you end a call and voice over goes away so does siri 
and sounds.
How do I reboot the phone again?
I only feel vibrations again.

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RE: considering Apple watch

[R Van Lant]

Thanks for the thoughts.  My sighted coworker is singing the praises of Apple 
watch. Part of what makes it such a hit in her world is the raise to wake 
feature and then being able to immediately ask a question hand free.  Sounds 
like that is out the window for Voiceover users, but maybe we have some fun 
features, too.  I'll read the AppleVis articles I can find and go into the 
Apple store to see one in action.  Good to know that the processor speed is 
significantly better on the newer ones.  I will avoid the earlier editions. 



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Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: considering Apple watch

Which series of watch do you have? I find on my new fifth generation watch it's 
very rare that haptic time does not work if I make sure to give it the 2 or 3 
taps required (depending on whether I want hours included or not) nice and 
deliberately and of course you have to make sure you disable raise to wake and 
all that stuff.

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I don't like my Apple watch because it doesn't reliably tell the time without 
speaking.  It may be operator error, but I have tried repeatedly to make haptic 
time work ... and sometimes it does.  However, often the watch speaks the time 
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headlines that I want.  One setting I have enabled is supposed to make the 
watch stop talking when you place your palm over it.  Mine seems to feel it has 
to finish the thought before it will stop, palm over or not.

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RE: IOS 13.3 bug

[Keao wright]

When I tried to do the hard reset, it’s not working on my 8 at all.

And I might need to take it down to t-mobile again.

Is there a way for accessibility to take a look?

I didn’t have any headphones connected.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.3 bug

 

I'm fairly sure the X phones and 11's use the same steps as the 8, but someone 
will correct me if I'm wrong. 

In my experience it only takes 6 to 8 seconds. If you have an earphone in, you 
can hear a faint click when it reboots.

 

 

 

Richard

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On Oct 21, 2019, at 8:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

I recommend a hard reset, but it depends on  your device as to how you 
accomplish it.
On the iPhone 6S and prior you push and hold the home button and side button 
simultaneously for about 12 seconds.
On the iPhone 8 you push volume up, then volume down and then push and hold the 
side button for about 12 seconds.
Not sure how it works on the iPhone X, XR/XS and 11/11S


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wright
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: IOS 13.3 bug

Hi,
My phone is silent now, I lost all speech and sounds.
Should I get a sighted person to do a had reset?
It's the same bug where you end a call and voice over goes away so does siri 
and sounds.
How do I reboot the phone again?
I only feel vibrations again.

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RE: IOS 13.3 bug

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you follow my steps and if the phone is not dead as in dead battery it will 
work.
1. Press and release the volume up button
2. Press and release the volume down button
3. Press and hold the power button on the side opposite to the volume buttons, 
as soon as you press it count to 12 or 14, then release it and wait about 15 or 
at most 20 seconds.
If you don’t hear Voiceover plug in a wired headset and check if you can hear 
Voiceover, maybe your volume is down.
If you still don’t hear Voiceover, is it possible that when you tried to get 
Voiceover back previously you turned it off?
If you don’t hear Voiceover without wired headset and also not with a wired 
headset push and hold the home button and tell SIRI “Turn on Voiceover”.
The hard reset works for me every time and I also have an iPhone 8.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keao 
wright
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 13.3 bug

When I tried to do the hard reset, it’s not working on my 8 at all.
And I might need to take it down to t-mobile again.
Is there a way for accessibility to take a look?
I didn’t have any headphones connected.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.3 bug

I'm fairly sure the X phones and 11's use the same steps as the 8, but someone 
will correct me if I'm wrong.
In my experience it only takes 6 to 8 seconds. If you have an earphone in, you 
can hear a faint click when it reboots.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 8:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I recommend a hard reset, but it depends on  your device as to how you 
accomplish it.
On the iPhone 6S and prior you push and hold the home button and side button 
simultaneously for about 12 seconds.
On the iPhone 8 you push volume up, then volume down and then push and hold the 
side button for about 12 seconds.
Not sure how it works on the iPhone X, XR/XS and 11/11S


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Keao 
wright
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS 13.3 bug

Hi,
My phone is silent now, I lost all speech and sounds.
Should I get a sighted person to do a had reset?
It's the same bug where you end a call and voice over goes away so does siri 
and sounds.
How do I reboot the phone again?
I only feel vibrations again.

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RE: IOS 13.3 bug

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

Yes, I also noticed that faint click when a headset is connected, but on my 
iPhone 8 it’s at least 10 seconds, I have never had it as fast as 6 or 8.
I think 12 is a safe bet and not so long that it interferes with the phone 
restarting.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keao 
wright
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 13.3 bug

When I tried to do the hard reset, it’s not working on my 8 at all.
And I might need to take it down to t-mobile again.
Is there a way for accessibility to take a look?
I didn’t have any headphones connected.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.3 bug

I'm fairly sure the X phones and 11's use the same steps as the 8, but someone 
will correct me if I'm wrong.
In my experience it only takes 6 to 8 seconds. If you have an earphone in, you 
can hear a faint click when it reboots.



Richard
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 8:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I recommend a hard reset, but it depends on  your device as to how you 
accomplish it.
On the iPhone 6S and prior you push and hold the home button and side button 
simultaneously for about 12 seconds.
On the iPhone 8 you push volume up, then volume down and then push and hold the 
side button for about 12 seconds.
Not sure how it works on the iPhone X, XR/XS and 11/11S


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Keao 
wright
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS 13.3 bug

Hi,
My phone is silent now, I lost all speech and sounds.
Should I get a sighted person to do a had reset?
It's the same bug where you end a call and voice over goes away so does siri 
and sounds.
How do I reboot the phone again?
I only feel vibrations again.

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Re: IOS 13.3 bug

[Richard Turner]

Either way, if it doesn't come back, plug it in to power and see if it comes on.
I have had it happen where I held the button too long and it powered off.
But the timing is also important.
Fairly quickly press and release the volume up, then press and release the 
volume down, then hold in the power/side switch for 10 or 12 seconds.
Like I said, if you have earphones in, you may hear a faint click.
If all else fails, you may need to get sighted help to confirm if it is on and 
silent or just off.
HTH,




Richard
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 9:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Richard,

Yes, I also noticed that faint click when a headset is connected, but on my 
iPhone 8 it’s at least 10 seconds, I have never had it as fast as 6 or 8.
I think 12 is a safe bet and not so long that it interferes with the phone 
restarting.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keao 
wright
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 13.3 bug

When I tried to do the hard reset, it’s not working on my 8 at all.
And I might need to take it down to t-mobile again.
Is there a way for accessibility to take a look?
I didn’t have any headphones connected.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.3 bug

I'm fairly sure the X phones and 11's use the same steps as the 8, but someone 
will correct me if I'm wrong.
In my experience it only takes 6 to 8 seconds. If you have an earphone in, you 
can hear a faint click when it reboots.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Oct 21, 2019, at 8:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I recommend a hard reset, but it depends on  your device as to how you 
accomplish it.
On the iPhone 6S and prior you push and hold the home button and side button 
simultaneously for about 12 seconds.
On the iPhone 8 you push volume up, then volume down and then push and hold the 
side button for about 12 seconds.
Not sure how it works on the iPhone X, XR/XS and 11/11S


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Keao 
wright
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS 13.3 bug

Hi,
My phone is silent now, I lost all speech and sounds.
Should I get a sighted person to do a had reset?
It's the same bug where you end a call and voice over goes away so does siri 
and sounds.
How do I reboot the phone again?
I only feel vibrations again.

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RE: IOS 13.3 bug

[Keao wright]

Ok, thank you!

I will give it a try again.

I hope it comes back!

Did you also turn the volume up all the way?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 13.3 bug

 

Either way, if it doesn't come back, plug it in to power and see if it comes 
on. 

I have had it happen where I held the button too long and it powered off.

But the timing is also important.

Fairly quickly press and release the volume up, then press and release the 
volume down, then hold in the power/side switch for 10 or 12 seconds.

Like I said, if you have earphones in, you may hear a faint click.

If all else fails, you may need to get sighted help to confirm if it is on and 
silent or just off.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





On Oct 21, 2019, at 9:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

 

Yes, I also noticed that faint click when a headset is connected, but on my 
iPhone 8 it’s at least 10 seconds, I have never had it as fast as 6 or 8.

I think 12 is a safe bet and not so long that it interferes with the phone 
restarting.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Keao 
wright
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: IOS 13.3 bug

 

When I tried to do the hard reset, it’s not working on my 8 at all.

And I might need to take it down to t-mobile again.

Is there a way for accessibility to take a look?

I didn’t have any headphones connected.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: IOS 13.3 bug

 

I'm fairly sure the X phones and 11's use the same steps as the 8, but someone 
will correct me if I'm wrong. 

In my experience it only takes 6 to 8 seconds. If you have an earphone in, you 
can hear a faint click when it reboots.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Oct 21, 2019, at 8:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

I recommend a hard reset, but it depends on  your device as to how you 
accomplish it.
On the iPhone 6S and prior you push and hold the home button and side button 
simultaneously for about 12 seconds.
On the iPhone 8 you push volume up, then volume down and then push and hold the 
side button for about 12 seconds.
Not sure how it works on the iPhone X, XR/XS and 11/11S


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Keao 
wright
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: IOS 13.3 bug

Hi,
My phone is silent now, I lost all speech and sounds.
Should I get a sighted person to do a had reset?
It's the same bug where you end a call and voice over goes away so does siri 
and sounds.
How do I reboot the phone again?
I only feel vibrations again.

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RE: IOS 13.3 bug

[Keao wright]

Hey, your steps work!

I felt the vibration, and I entered in my pass code wrong, so I turned on voice 
over with a triple click, and it came back!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 13.3 bug

 

If you follow my steps and if the phone is not dead as in dead battery it will 
work.

1. Press and release the volume up button

2. Press and release the volume down button

3. Press and hold the power button on the side opposite to the volume buttons, 
as soon as you press it count to 12 or 14, then release it and wait about 15 or 
at most 20 seconds.

If you don’t hear Voiceover plug in a wired headset and check if you can hear 
Voiceover, maybe your volume is down.

If you still don’t hear Voiceover, is it possible that when you tried to get 
Voiceover back previously you turned it off? 

If you don’t hear Voiceover without wired headset and also not with a wired 
headset push and hold the home button and tell SIRI “Turn on Voiceover”.

The hard reset works for me every time and I also have an iPhone 8.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Keao 
wright
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: IOS 13.3 bug

 

When I tried to do the hard reset, it’s not working on my 8 at all.

And I might need to take it down to t-mobile again.

Is there a way for accessibility to take a look?

I didn’t have any headphones connected.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: IOS 13.3 bug

 

I'm fairly sure the X phones and 11's use the same steps as the 8, but someone 
will correct me if I'm wrong. 

In my experience it only takes 6 to 8 seconds. If you have an earphone in, you 
can hear a faint click when it reboots.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Oct 21, 2019, at 8:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

I recommend a hard reset, but it depends on  your device as to how you 
accomplish it.
On the iPhone 6S and prior you push and hold the home button and side button 
simultaneously for about 12 seconds.
On the iPhone 8 you push volume up, then volume down and then push and hold the 
side button for about 12 seconds.
Not sure how it works on the iPhone X, XR/XS and 11/11S


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Keao 
wright
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: IOS 13.3 bug

Hi,
My phone is silent now, I lost all speech and sounds.
Should I get a sighted person to do a had reset?
It's the same bug where you end a call and voice over goes away so does siri 
and sounds.
How do I reboot the phone again?
I only feel vibrations again.

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