RE: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard and Anna
Yes, Sieghard, you are spot on about the wifi aspect. Sometimes I wonder why 
our forefathers from the Netherlands and germany and other countries had this 
desire to come to Africa 367 years ago. I am envious of you folks with all the 
nice things but I suppose one must make the best of circumstances. This is why 
these technical email lists and all your willingness to help is so important 
and although we do not say it enough, we are very thankful and appreciate your 
time to assist us.
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 19:39
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11

Hi Anna,

Fanus is in South Africa and I assume he only has WiFi via a cellular hotspot 
or something like that.
My wife is from the Philippines and I know that very few people there have 
their own WiFi at home and if they do it's usually via some pocket WiFi hub 
which still uses cellular data and plans. The one thing there is that with some 
of these you get these promos, e.g. you can have unlimited use of Facebook or 
unlimited streaming of some movie service they have there which is basically 
the Filipino version of Netflix etc.
My wife's sister at times had plans which included unlimited data, but it was 
for some stripped down version of the service which I think was called Facebook 
Light, not something we probably even have here, but she could for instance use 
Messenger as much as she wanted for text chat, but she could not use it for 
video calls.
We are spoiled here in the US, Canada and also most European countries and 
Australia/New Zealand with super-fast fiber internet with unlimited data or 
even if it's a good ADSL or cable connection it's still pretty good over what 
most of the rest of the world has or can afford and it's also the larger part 
of the world, certainly when it comes to population. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:17 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11

Hi Fanus,

Downloading from iCloud won't count against your data if you do it over Wi-Fi, 
will it? Usually Wi-Fi plans allow for a lot of downloading.

Do you have enough room on your phone for all the music? If so, with the phone 
connected, choose Music, and find the control that will let you sync all your 
music. It should say something like, "Sync all music." Once you choose that and 
choose Sync, all the music should be copied.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 25, 2019, at 5:36 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello Anna
> Thanks so much but now you must please assist one more time. I connected the 
> new phone to the pc and in itunes I clicked on the iPhone button and tabbed 
> through to the "sync" button and pressed enter. After the sync going through 
> the tabs again it shows 16.8 GB of music but my iTunes music folder on the pc 
> has 59.9 GB of music. Must I first select the music and then activate the 
> iPhone button? I do not want to download from iCloud because that 59 GB is 
> more than my download data package, so its going to cost me a lot, so I would 
> like to transfer the music via itunes to the phone. Where did I go wrong?
> Kind regards
> Fanus
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Anna Dresner
> Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 04:37
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11
> 
> Hi Fanus,
> 
> The music on your iPod is, I assume, also in the iTunes library on your 
> computer. Your best bet would be syncing your iPhone with your computer and 
> copying the music from your iTunes library to your phone. If your iTunes 
> library is small enough, you can sync the whole thing with your iPhone. If 
> not, you can select music in iTunes and choose Add to Device to copy it 
> across.
> 
> If you have Apple Music or use iTunes Match, all the music in your iTunes 
> library is in iCloud, and you can download it from there to your phone when 
> it's connected to Wi-Fi. Even if you have neither of these services, any 
> music you have purchased from the iTunes store is available in iCloud to be 
> downloaded to your phone. 
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2019, at 3:39 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> Is there a feature to transfer music on my iPod 6th gen to my new 
>> iPhone 11 without using data from my internet capped plan?
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
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Re: Has Anyone Tried Using UMail to Stop Robo Calls?

[Richard Turner]

The service you are looking for isn't spelled u m a i l, it is y o u m a i l.
I have not used it, I just set the phone to silence unknown callers. But if you 
want to read the YouMail help page, here is the link:
https://support.youmail.com/hc/en-us/articles/200477728-What-Is-YouMail-and-How-Does-YouMail-Work-




Richard
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On Nov 25, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:

I heard on the news just now about a free app that is supposed to stop your 
getting robo calls to your phone and it is called UMail and it is free but I 
can't enter my phone number. I can get my email address entered.Just wondered 
if anyone else has tried to use it.

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Has Anyone Tried Using UMail to Stop Robo Calls?

[Shirley Baker]

I heard on the news just now about a free app that is supposed to stop your 
getting robo calls to your phone and it is called UMail and it is free but I 
can't enter my phone number. I can get my email address entered.Just wondered 
if anyone else has tried to use it.

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Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[Alvin Ng]

Try read continuously the following text with us siri male and samantha voice.

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> On 26 Nov 2019, at 6:13 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 

 I've not ever heard the issue with defeat with any voice, until I read back 
that sentence with Tom Enhanced. If you read the word by itself, it pronounces 
it correctly, but in a sentence it said defeeturing. Very stupid.
 GPS seems to be a new thing with various voices so I think it came with iOS 13.
You can go into the VoiceOver Speech, Pronunciations and add it in with the 
substitution G P S, and make sure it is set to all voices.
That fixed it for me; but it shouldn't have said it that way to begin with of 
course.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


>> On Nov 25, 2019, at 1:54 PM, "englishride...@gmail.com" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
> 
> To add to this interesting discussion, I've found that for quite a while now, 
> Compact Samantha pronounces the word defeat as defeeturing. Of course, it 
> didn't do it in this email--go figure.
> 
> She's also saying GPS as geepees, which is quite annoying.
> 
> Also, Siri British English (when using Siri--I haven't tested this with VO 
> and the British female Siri voice) says PVTA as an actual word, rather than 
> just the letters P V T A. That stands for Pioneer Valley Transit Authority, 
> which is the name of the company that handles public transportation in my 
> area.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 7:03 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Well Kelby,
>> No your email where you used the em dash did not speak it as to the power of.
>> I suspect we are dealing with a contextual issue.
>> When you run across it in a book again, I'd be interested to know where in 
>> which book.
>> I'm fairly sure we are dealing with an overall change from Apple/Nuance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
>> Wagner
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:52 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Strange that I'm not hearing it other places—I know articles I read contain 
>>> em dashes. So does this email, in fact, and know "to the power of" there.
>>> 
 On Nov 10, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 
 Good fine Alan.
 That means it is not a Voice Dream Reader issue.
 I just checked and yes any superscript number is read as to the power of.
 I suspect in books where that is used, or the m-dash, iOS 13 is 
 pronouncing them differently.
 
  
 I switched to the British Siri Male voice on the language rotor and it did 
 not say to the power of on the memory numbers on the Apple Store.
 Also, when I switch to the Irish Siri voice even though the language is US 
 English, no to the power of.
 So, it is only with US voices.
 I'm going to send this to Winston with Voice Dream as well.
 
 Richard
 "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
 it." 
 -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
 Wagner
 
 
> On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Kelby and Richard,
>  
> I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on 
> an iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the 
> power of" pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the 
> phone. However, when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the 
> capacities each had a superscript 1 next to them so I guess that 
> pronunciation was appropriate. I would have preferred superscript 1 but 
> to the power 

Re: Siri and reminders.

[Liz Ulrich and LD Hope]

It's a bug. Your reminder will be created for the date you wish. 


Sent from my iPhone 
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope 
HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1

> On Nov 25, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Why is it that when I try to get Siri to make a reminder for
> February 25, 2020, she wants to make it for tomorrow? I
> wanted her to make one for January 9, 2020, and
> 
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Siri and reminders.

[Carolyn]

Why is it that when I try to get Siri to make a reminder for
February 25, 2020, she wants to make it for tomorrow? I
wanted her to make one for January 9, 2020, and

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Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[Richard Turner]

I've not ever heard the issue with defeat with any voice, until I read back 
that sentence with Tom Enhanced. If you read the word by itself, it pronounces 
it correctly, but in a sentence it said defeeturing. Very stupid.
 GPS seems to be a new thing with various voices so I think it came with iOS 13.
You can go into the VoiceOver Speech, Pronunciations and add it in with the 
substitution G P S, and make sure it is set to all voices.
That fixed it for me; but it shouldn't have said it that way to begin with of 
course.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 25, 2019, at 1:54 PM, "englishride...@gmail.com" 
 wrote:


To add to this interesting discussion, I've found that for quite a while now, 
Compact Samantha pronounces the word defeat as defeeturing. Of course, it 
didn't do it in this email--go figure.

She's also saying GPS as geepees, which is quite annoying.

Also, Siri British English (when using Siri--I haven't tested this with VO and 
the British female Siri voice) says PVTA as an actual word, rather than just 
the letters P V T A. That stands for Pioneer Valley Transit Authority, which is 
the name of the company that handles public transportation in my area.


Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 10, 2019, at 7:03 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Well Kelby,
No your email where you used the em dash did not speak it as to the power of.
I suspect we are dealing with a contextual issue.
When you run across it in a book again, I'd be interested to know where in 
which book.
I'm fairly sure we are dealing with an overall change from Apple/Nuance.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:52 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:


Strange that I'm not hearing it other places—I know articles I read contain em 
dashes. So does this email, in fact, and know "to the power of" there.

On Nov 10, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Good fine Alan.
That means it is not a Voice Dream Reader issue.
I just checked and yes any superscript number is read as to the power of.
I suspect in books where that is used, or the m-dash, iOS 13 is pronouncing 
them differently.


I switched to the British Siri Male voice on the language rotor and it did not 
say to the power of on the memory numbers on the Apple Store.
Also, when I switch to the Irish Siri voice even though the language is US 
English, no to the power of.
So, it is only with US voices.
I'm going to send this to Winston with Voice Dream as well.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Kelby and Richard,

I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on an 
iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the power of" 
pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the phone. However, 
when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the capacities each had a 
superscript 1 next to them so I guess that pronunciation was appropriate. I 
would have preferred superscript 1 but to the power of 1 also works.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is 
pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of 
quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just in 
VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, however.


On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if there 
was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I think the 
place to start is with Apple.
The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so who 
knows.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer?  So, I 
wonder if 

Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue

[englishrider91]

To add to this interesting discussion, I've found that for quite a while now, 
Compact Samantha pronounces the word defeat as defeeturing. Of course, it 
didn't do it in this email--go figure.

She's also saying GPS as geepees, which is quite annoying.

Also, Siri British English (when using Siri--I haven't tested this with VO and 
the British female Siri voice) says PVTA as an actual word, rather than just 
the letters P V T A. That stands for Pioneer Valley Transit Authority, which is 
the name of the company that handles public transportation in my area.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Nov 10, 2019, at 7:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Well Kelby,
> No your email where you used the em dash did not speak it as to the power of.
> I suspect we are dealing with a contextual issue.
> When you run across it in a book again, I'd be interested to know where in 
> which book.
> I'm fairly sure we are dealing with an overall change from Apple/Nuance.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
> 
> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:52 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Strange that I'm not hearing it other places—I know articles I read contain 
>> em dashes. So does this email, in fact, and know "to the power of" there.
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good fine Alan.
>>> That means it is not a Voice Dream Reader issue.
>>> I just checked and yes any superscript number is read as to the power of.
>>> I suspect in books where that is used, or the m-dash, iOS 13 is pronouncing 
>>> them differently.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> I switched to the British Siri Male voice on the language rotor and it did 
>>> not say to the power of on the memory numbers on the Apple Store.
>>> Also, when I switch to the Irish Siri voice even though the language is US 
>>> English, no to the power of.
>>> So, it is only with US voices.
>>> I'm going to send this to Winston with Voice Dream as well.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." 
>>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
>>> Wagner
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 10, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
 
 Kelby and Richard,
  
 I was just on the Apple Store app checking out prices and other specs on 
 an iPhone XR and thought I had found another occurrence of the "to the 
 power of" pronunciation. It was on the 64GB and 128GB capacities of the 
 phone. However, when I placed the rotor in characters mode, I learned the 
 capacities each had a superscript 1 next to them so I guess that 
 pronunciation was appropriate. I would have preferred superscript 1 but to 
 the power of 1 also works.
  
 Alan Lemly
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of kelby carlson
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
  
 The "to the power of" issue happens in most books for me. Usually it is 
 pronounced where there is an em dash (this symbol —) or certain types of 
 quotation marks. I haven't encountered this in Safari or other apps, just 
 in VoiceDream. I am noticing the other pronunciation issues described, 
 however.
 
 
 On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 
 It could be, but since it has changed in iOS 13, and Apple never said if 
 there was also an update to the Vocalizer voices they are using, then I 
 think the place to start is with Apple.
 The current Vocalizer voices on a computer do not have the same issues, so 
 who knows.
  
  
  
 Richard
  
  Live long and prosper
  
  
 Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Cris Ali
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:56 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
  
 Isn’t the pronunciation of the iOS voices provided by the Vocalizer?  So, 
 I wonder if contacting the vocalizer company could help in fixing these 
 problems in the future releases of iOS.
 Have anyone tried to contact the maker of vocalizer regarding such 
 matters? Just curious.
 
 Regards,
  
 Cris
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Debby
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 2:36 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Another Weird Pronunciation Issue
  
 I have also found some weird pronunciations. I do get gun as g u n when I 
 am reading in safari, and I just put it in a note and got the g u n.
  
 For me in the Blindfold games the word re-sume  is pronounced as 
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Re: copying ringtones to an iOS device from the Mac in Catalina

[John Panarese]

  Hmm. I’ll have to mess with this. In theory, if you do a VO-F6 and it 
indicates all of the selected items you have chosen are present, the drag and 
drop Should include all of the selected items.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
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> On Nov 25, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi JOhn,
> 
> That's a good thought. I tried it, and as when I moved up and down the list 
> without the VO keys, I was told everything I chose was added to the 
> selection. The drag and drop didn't put any of the selected tones on my 
> device, however. Being able to do it reliably with one tone is great, though.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2019, at 9:05 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>> The one thing that might be missing here for multiple selections is, yes, 
>> VO-Command-enter is used for multiple selection, but you have to navigate to 
>> each file using the VO-arrow keys and then pressing VO-Command-Enter to 
>> select that item.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
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>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2019, at 11:53 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've been working with someone in Apple Accessibility tech support on 
>>> copying ringtones from a Mac to an iOS device running Catalina, and they 
>>> sent me steps that work. I can't get the part of the directions involving 
>>> selecting multiple tones at once to work, but copying one tone at a time 
>>> works reliably using this method. I'm so glad there's a way to do this 
>>> without Garage Band! Here are the steps:
>>> 
>>> 1) Open two Finder windows: one containing the General tab of an iOS device 
>>> and one with a folder containing a ringtone file (MPEG-4 audio file with 
>>> .m4r file extension).
>>> 2) Move the VoiceOver cursor to the ringtone file. To install more than one 
>>> ringtone, use VO-Command-Return to select each of the ringtones before 
>>> proceeding to the next step.
>>> 3) Press VO-Command-fn-5 to move the mouse pointer to the VoiceOver 
>>> cursor's location.
>>> 4) Press VO-Command-Shift-Space to click and hold the mouse button (to 
>>> start dragging).
>>> 5) Use Window Chooser (VO-fn-2-2) to switch to the Finder window that the 
>>> iOS device is in.
>>> 6) Move the VoiceOver cursor to "General, scroll area".
>>> 7) Press VO-Command-Shift-Space to release the mouse button (to drop the 
>>> files in this location).
>>> 
>>> Enjoy,
>>> Anna
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Re: copying ringtones to an iOS device from the Mac in Catalina

[Anna Dresner]

Hi JOhn,

That's a good thought. I tried it, and as when I moved up and down the list 
without the VO keys, I was told everything I chose was added to the selection. 
The drag and drop didn't put any of the selected tones on my device, however. 
Being able to do it reliably with one tone is great, though.

Best,
Anna


> On Nov 25, 2019, at 9:05 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>  The one thing that might be missing here for multiple selections is, yes, 
> VO-Command-enter is used for multiple selection, but you have to navigate to 
> each file using the VO-arrow keys and then pressing VO-Command-Enter to 
> select that item.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2019, at 11:53 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've been working with someone in Apple Accessibility tech support on 
>> copying ringtones from a Mac to an iOS device running Catalina, and they 
>> sent me steps that work. I can't get the part of the directions involving 
>> selecting multiple tones at once to work, but copying one tone at a time 
>> works reliably using this method. I'm so glad there's a way to do this 
>> without Garage Band! Here are the steps:
>> 
>> 1) Open two Finder windows: one containing the General tab of an iOS device 
>> and one with a folder containing a ringtone file (MPEG-4 audio file with 
>> .m4r file extension).
>> 2) Move the VoiceOver cursor to the ringtone file. To install more than one 
>> ringtone, use VO-Command-Return to select each of the ringtones before 
>> proceeding to the next step.
>> 3) Press VO-Command-fn-5 to move the mouse pointer to the VoiceOver cursor's 
>> location.
>> 4) Press VO-Command-Shift-Space to click and hold the mouse button (to start 
>> dragging).
>> 5) Use Window Chooser (VO-fn-2-2) to switch to the Finder window that the 
>> iOS device is in.
>> 6) Move the VoiceOver cursor to "General, scroll area".
>> 7) Press VO-Command-Shift-Space to release the mouse button (to drop the 
>> files in this location).
>> 
>> Enjoy,
>> Anna
>> 
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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[sherrywells1157]

Right but in my attempt to be flexible, I’d be happy with a My Accounts tab 
replacing the old Updates tab.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

For whatever it’s worth, there never was a My Account tab, but there was the 
Updates tab, My Account always was a button at the top.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

LOL – you are correct.  I will get used to this just as I am getting used to 
the feel of the different home button on the 8 vs the 5.  I would still prefer 
a My Account tab rather than both a games & arcade tab.  That is no doubt my 
age showing!

 

Sherry Wells

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

To me it makes little difference whether I have to double tap on an “Update” 
tab at the bottom somewhere or the “My Account” button near the top.

I think in a way it makes sense also to put the updates in the same area as 
your purchased apps and personalized redcommendations.

When something was the same for years and it then changes it takes a few days 
to get used to it and after that you won’t think about it any more unless you 
are somebody who dislikes change of any kind as a principle.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

That did it.  I had touched the screen before swiping.  This time I waited to 
hear the date & swiped before touching anything.  

 

You would think that something one does fairly frequently like updating apps 
would be a tab rather than both games & arcades each having their own tab.  Of 
course that is only my opinion, worthless as it is to Apple!

 

Thanks much for the direction.

Sherry Wells

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.

 

 

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Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:48 AM
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Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

Hello all,

 

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?  

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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Re: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11

[Anna Dresner]

Hi sieghard,

Thanks for the reality check. I was trying to come up with the easiest way to 
do it, but of course, what's easy and viable depends on the system you're 
working with. Using iCloud is simpler m working with iTunes, but obviously if 
it costs a fortune, it's not the way to go.

Best,
Anna


> On Nov 25, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,
> 
> Fanus is in South Africa and I assume he only has WiFi via a cellular hotspot 
> or something like that.
> My wife is from the Philippines and I know that very few people there have 
> their own WiFi at home and if they do it's usually via some pocket WiFi hub 
> which still uses cellular data and plans. The one thing there is that with 
> some of these you get these promos, e.g. you can have unlimited use of 
> Facebook or unlimited streaming of some movie service they have there which 
> is basically the Filipino version of Netflix etc.
> My wife's sister at times had plans which included unlimited data, but it was 
> for some stripped down version of the service which I think was called 
> Facebook Light, not something we probably even have here, but she could for 
> instance use Messenger as much as she wanted for text chat, but she could not 
> use it for video calls.
> We are spoiled here in the US, Canada and also most European countries and 
> Australia/New Zealand with super-fast fiber internet with unlimited data or 
> even if it's a good ADSL or cable connection it's still pretty good over what 
> most of the rest of the world has or can afford and it's also the larger part 
> of the world, certainly when it comes to population. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:17 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11
> 
> Hi Fanus,
> 
> Downloading from iCloud won't count against your data if you do it over 
> Wi-Fi, will it? Usually Wi-Fi plans allow for a lot of downloading.
> 
> Do you have enough room on your phone for all the music? If so, with the 
> phone connected, choose Music, and find the control that will let you sync 
> all your music. It should say something like, "Sync all music." Once you 
> choose that and choose Sync, all the music should be copied.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2019, at 5:36 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Anna
>> Thanks so much but now you must please assist one more time. I connected the 
>> new phone to the pc and in itunes I clicked on the iPhone button and tabbed 
>> through to the "sync" button and pressed enter. After the sync going through 
>> the tabs again it shows 16.8 GB of music but my iTunes music folder on the 
>> pc has 59.9 GB of music. Must I first select the music and then activate the 
>> iPhone button? I do not want to download from iCloud because that 59 GB is 
>> more than my download data package, so its going to cost me a lot, so I 
>> would like to transfer the music via itunes to the phone. Where did I go 
>> wrong?
>> Kind regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 04:37
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11
>> 
>> Hi Fanus,
>> 
>> The music on your iPod is, I assume, also in the iTunes library on your 
>> computer. Your best bet would be syncing your iPhone with your computer and 
>> copying the music from your iTunes library to your phone. If your iTunes 
>> library is small enough, you can sync the whole thing with your iPhone. If 
>> not, you can select music in iTunes and choose Add to Device to copy it 
>> across.
>> 
>> If you have Apple Music or use iTunes Match, all the music in your iTunes 
>> library is in iCloud, and you can download it from there to your phone when 
>> it's connected to Wi-Fi. Even if you have neither of these services, any 
>> music you have purchased from the iTunes store is available in iCloud to be 
>> downloaded to your phone. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2019, at 3:39 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello list
>>> Is there a feature to transfer music on my iPod 6th gen to my new 
>>> iPhone 11 without using data from my internet capped plan?
>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
>>> 
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Re: Deleting playlist

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

You also have the option of removing downloads, so the christmas music won't be 
on your phone until you want to put it back next year, but the playlist is 
still available to be downloaded next year.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 25, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I think if you delete it's gone. You might be able to export it and then 
> import it again, but why bother, it's not like a playlist takes up 
> space/storage, it's just a tiny file which points to the songs you have on 
> your phone or which you play via Apple Music.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Deleting playlist
> 
> Hi, I have a question to ask. I have a Christmas playlist and I would like to 
> delete it from the playlist  but  when Christmas is over how can I delete it 
> but for it to be backed up to the iCloud so that way the next following year 
> I can just put it back onto the playlist? thanks, and God bless. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Deleting playlist

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think if you delete it's gone. You might be able to export it and then import 
it again, but why bother, it's not like a playlist takes up space/storage, it's 
just a tiny file which points to the songs you have on your phone or which you 
play via Apple Music.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Irlanda 
Hernandez
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Deleting playlist

Hi, I have a question to ask. I have a Christmas playlist and I would like to 
delete it from the playlist  but  when Christmas is over how can I delete it 
but for it to be backed up to the iCloud so that way the next following year I 
can just put it back onto the playlist? thanks, and God bless. 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I forget that the triple tap also does what a double tap and hold does or, on 
3D touch models, the forced touch.
Anyways, I think it makes little difference if you flick down to context menu 
and then double tap or if you triple tap right away, again just a minor change 
in doing the same thing which becomes muscle memory quick enough.

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Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

You can also do a one finger triple tap to bring up the Context Menu one option 
there is Updates.  Shame they took the Context Menu out of the Rotor.
Sent from my iPhone


On 25 Nov 2019, at 17:30, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

For whatever it’s worth, there never was a My Account tab, but there was the 
Updates tab, My Account always was a button at the top.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

LOL – you are correct.  I will get used to this just as I am getting used to 
the feel of the different home button on the 8 vs the 5.  I would still prefer 
a My Account tab rather than both a games & arcade tab.  That is no doubt my 
age showing!

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

To me it makes little difference whether I have to double tap on an “Update” 
tab at the bottom somewhere or the “My Account” button near the top.
I think in a way it makes sense also to put the updates in the same area as 
your purchased apps and personalized redcommendations.
When something was the same for years and it then changes it takes a few days 
to get used to it and after that you won’t think about it any more unless you 
are somebody who dislikes change of any kind as a principle.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

That did it.  I had touched the screen before swiping.  This time I waited to 
hear the date & swiped before touching anything.

You would think that something one does fairly frequently like updating apps 
would be a tab rather than both games & arcades each having their own tab.  Of 
course that is only my opinion, worthless as it is to Apple!

Thanks much for the direction.
Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:48 AM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

Hello all,

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells
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Deleting playlist

[Irlanda Hernandez]

Hi, I have a question to ask. I have a Christmas playlist and I would like to 
delete it from the playlist  but  when Christmas is over how can I delete it 
but for it to be backed up to the iCloud so that way the next following year I 
can just put it back onto the playlist? thanks, and God bless. 

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RE: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Anna,

Fanus is in South Africa and I assume he only has WiFi via a cellular hotspot 
or something like that.
My wife is from the Philippines and I know that very few people there have 
their own WiFi at home and if they do it's usually via some pocket WiFi hub 
which still uses cellular data and plans. The one thing there is that with some 
of these you get these promos, e.g. you can have unlimited use of Facebook or 
unlimited streaming of some movie service they have there which is basically 
the Filipino version of Netflix etc.
My wife's sister at times had plans which included unlimited data, but it was 
for some stripped down version of the service which I think was called Facebook 
Light, not something we probably even have here, but she could for instance use 
Messenger as much as she wanted for text chat, but she could not use it for 
video calls.
We are spoiled here in the US, Canada and also most European countries and 
Australia/New Zealand with super-fast fiber internet with unlimited data or 
even if it's a good ADSL or cable connection it's still pretty good over what 
most of the rest of the world has or can afford and it's also the larger part 
of the world, certainly when it comes to population. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:17 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11

Hi Fanus,

Downloading from iCloud won't count against your data if you do it over Wi-Fi, 
will it? Usually Wi-Fi plans allow for a lot of downloading.

Do you have enough room on your phone for all the music? If so, with the phone 
connected, choose Music, and find the control that will let you sync all your 
music. It should say something like, "Sync all music." Once you choose that and 
choose Sync, all the music should be copied.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 25, 2019, at 5:36 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello Anna
> Thanks so much but now you must please assist one more time. I connected the 
> new phone to the pc and in itunes I clicked on the iPhone button and tabbed 
> through to the "sync" button and pressed enter. After the sync going through 
> the tabs again it shows 16.8 GB of music but my iTunes music folder on the pc 
> has 59.9 GB of music. Must I first select the music and then activate the 
> iPhone button? I do not want to download from iCloud because that 59 GB is 
> more than my download data package, so its going to cost me a lot, so I would 
> like to transfer the music via itunes to the phone. Where did I go wrong?
> Kind regards
> Fanus
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Anna Dresner
> Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 04:37
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11
> 
> Hi Fanus,
> 
> The music on your iPod is, I assume, also in the iTunes library on your 
> computer. Your best bet would be syncing your iPhone with your computer and 
> copying the music from your iTunes library to your phone. If your iTunes 
> library is small enough, you can sync the whole thing with your iPhone. If 
> not, you can select music in iTunes and choose Add to Device to copy it 
> across.
> 
> If you have Apple Music or use iTunes Match, all the music in your iTunes 
> library is in iCloud, and you can download it from there to your phone when 
> it's connected to Wi-Fi. Even if you have neither of these services, any 
> music you have purchased from the iTunes store is available in iCloud to be 
> downloaded to your phone. 
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2019, at 3:39 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> Is there a feature to transfer music on my iPod 6th gen to my new 
>> iPhone 11 without using data from my internet capped plan?
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
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Re: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[Malcolm Parfitt]

You can also do a one finger triple tap to bring up the Context Menu one option 
there is Updates.  Shame they took the Context Menu out of the Rotor.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Nov 2019, at 17:30, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> For whatever it’s worth, there never was a My Account tab, but there was the 
> Updates tab, My Account always was a button at the top.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> sherrywells1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS
>  
> LOL – you are correct.  I will get used to this just as I am getting used to 
> the feel of the different home button on the 8 vs the 5.  I would still 
> prefer a My Account tab rather than both a games & arcade tab.  That is no 
> doubt my age showing!
>  
> Sherry Wells
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 11:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS
>  
> To me it makes little difference whether I have to double tap on an “Update” 
> tab at the bottom somewhere or the “My Account” button near the top.
> I think in a way it makes sense also to put the updates in the same area as 
> your purchased apps and personalized redcommendations.
> When something was the same for years and it then changes it takes a few days 
> to get used to it and after that you won’t think about it any more unless you 
> are somebody who dislikes change of any kind as a principle.
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> sherrywells1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS
>  
> That did it.  I had touched the screen before swiping.  This time I waited to 
> hear the date & swiped before touching anything. 
>  
> You would think that something one does fairly frequently like updating apps 
> would be a tab rather than both games & arcades each having their own tab.  
> Of course that is only my opinion, worthless as it is to Apple!
>  
> Thanks much for the direction.
> Sherry Wells
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS
>  
> After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
> tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find 
> your  updates including an update all button.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> sherrywells1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:48 AM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 
> 12 something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the 
> update tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app 
> store & there is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, 
> Apps, Arcade & search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but 
> found no way to do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do 
> I update apps? 
>  
> Thanks,
> Sherry Wells
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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

For whatever it’s worth, there never was a My Account tab, but there was the 
Updates tab, My Account always was a button at the top.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

LOL – you are correct.  I will get used to this just as I am getting used to 
the feel of the different home button on the 8 vs the 5.  I would still prefer 
a My Account tab rather than both a games & arcade tab.  That is no doubt my 
age showing!

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

To me it makes little difference whether I have to double tap on an “Update” 
tab at the bottom somewhere or the “My Account” button near the top.
I think in a way it makes sense also to put the updates in the same area as 
your purchased apps and personalized redcommendations.
When something was the same for years and it then changes it takes a few days 
to get used to it and after that you won’t think about it any more unless you 
are somebody who dislikes change of any kind as a principle.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

That did it.  I had touched the screen before swiping.  This time I waited to 
hear the date & swiped before touching anything.

You would think that something one does fairly frequently like updating apps 
would be a tab rather than both games & arcades each having their own tab.  Of 
course that is only my opinion, worthless as it is to Apple!

Thanks much for the direction.
Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:48 AM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

Hello all,

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells
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The 

Re: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Fanus,

Downloading from iCloud won't count against your data if you do it over Wi-Fi, 
will it? Usually Wi-Fi plans allow for a lot of downloading.

Do you have enough room on your phone for all the music? If so, with the phone 
connected, choose Music, and find the control that will let you sync all your 
music. It should say something like, "Sync all music." Once you choose that and 
choose Sync, all the music should be copied.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 25, 2019, at 5:36 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello Anna
> Thanks so much but now you must please assist one more time. I connected the 
> new phone to the pc and in itunes I clicked on the iPhone button and tabbed 
> through to the "sync" button and pressed enter. After the sync going through 
> the tabs again it shows 16.8 GB of music but my iTunes music folder on the pc 
> has 59.9 GB of music. Must I first select the music and then activate the 
> iPhone button? I do not want to download from iCloud because that 59 GB is 
> more than my download data package, so its going to cost me a lot, so I would 
> like to transfer the music via itunes to the phone. Where did I go wrong?
> Kind regards
> Fanus
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 04:37
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11
> 
> Hi Fanus,
> 
> The music on your iPod is, I assume, also in the iTunes library on your 
> computer. Your best bet would be syncing your iPhone with your computer and 
> copying the music from your iTunes library to your phone. If your iTunes 
> library is small enough, you can sync the whole thing with your iPhone. If 
> not, you can select music in iTunes and choose Add to Device to copy it 
> across.
> 
> If you have Apple Music or use iTunes Match, all the music in your iTunes 
> library is in iCloud, and you can download it from there to your phone when 
> it's connected to Wi-Fi. Even if you have neither of these services, any 
> music you have purchased from the iTunes store is available in iCloud to be 
> downloaded to your phone. 
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2019, at 3:39 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> Is there a feature to transfer music on my iPod 6th gen to my new iPhone 11
>> without using data from my internet capped plan?
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[sherrywells1157]

LOL – you are correct.  I will get used to this just as I am getting used to 
the feel of the different home button on the 8 vs the 5.  I would still prefer 
a My Account tab rather than both a games & arcade tab.  That is no doubt my 
age showing!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

To me it makes little difference whether I have to double tap on an “Update” 
tab at the bottom somewhere or the “My Account” button near the top.

I think in a way it makes sense also to put the updates in the same area as 
your purchased apps and personalized redcommendations.

When something was the same for years and it then changes it takes a few days 
to get used to it and after that you won’t think about it any more unless you 
are somebody who dislikes change of any kind as a principle.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

That did it.  I had touched the screen before swiping.  This time I waited to 
hear the date & swiped before touching anything.  

 

You would think that something one does fairly frequently like updating apps 
would be a tab rather than both games & arcades each having their own tab.  Of 
course that is only my opinion, worthless as it is to Apple!

 

Thanks much for the direction.

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.

 

 

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Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

Hello all,

 

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?  

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

To me it makes little difference whether I have to double tap on an “Update” 
tab at the bottom somewhere or the “My Account” button near the top.
I think in a way it makes sense also to put the updates in the same area as 
your purchased apps and personalized redcommendations.
When something was the same for years and it then changes it takes a few days 
to get used to it and after that you won’t think about it any more unless you 
are somebody who dislikes change of any kind as a principle.
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That did it.  I had touched the screen before swiping.  This time I waited to 
hear the date & swiped before touching anything.

You would think that something one does fairly frequently like updating apps 
would be a tab rather than both games & arcades each having their own tab.  Of 
course that is only my opinion, worthless as it is to Apple!

Thanks much for the direction.
Sherry Wells

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After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.


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Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

Hello all,

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells
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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[sherrywells1157]

That did it.  I had touched the screen before swiping.  This time I waited to 
hear the date & swiped before touching anything.  

 

You would think that something one does fairly frequently like updating apps 
would be a tab rather than both games & arcades each having their own tab.  Of 
course that is only my opinion, worthless as it is to Apple!

 

Thanks much for the direction.

Sherry Wells

 

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Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:57 AM
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After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.

 

 

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Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

Hello all,

 

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?  

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sherry,

The Today screen is the one which has focus by default.
If I double tap on the App Store, I hear Voiceover saying “Today, Monday, 
November 25th, heading”.
If I swipe right once I hear “My Account, button”, just double tap on that.
I have an iPhone 8 as well, if you don’t get this, make sure you are at the 
very top by doing a 4-finger single tap in the top half of the screen, that 
should put focus on the Today, Monday, November 25 heading.


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OK, I went to the app store & was on the apps tab.  When I swipe right it 
starts going through all the available apps.  I hear the app name then get 
repeatedly.  I tried a couple other tabs but am not hearing my account.  I do 
not have a home tab.  The tab to the farthest left is Today & it says one of 5.

I have not tried your second method yet as it does sound like a pain.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells

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After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.


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Hello all,

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells
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Re: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[Albert Ruel]

Sherry, I think you have to be on the today tab in order for my accounts to 
show up.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 25, 2019, at 8:25 AM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 


OK, I went to the app store & was on the apps tab.  When I swipe right it 
starts going through all the available apps.  I hear the app name then get 
repeatedly.  I tried a couple other tabs but am not hearing my account.  I do 
not have a home tab.  The tab to the farthest left is Today & it says one of 5.
 
I have not tried your second method yet as it does sound like a pain. 
 
What am I doing wrong?
 
Thanks,
Sherry Wells
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.
 
 
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Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS
 
Hello all,
 
I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps? 
 
Thanks,
Sherry Wells
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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[sherrywells1157]

OK, I went to the app store & was on the apps tab.  When I swipe right it 
starts going through all the available apps.  I hear the app name then get 
repeatedly.  I tried a couple other tabs but am not hearing my account.  I do 
not have a home tab.  The tab to the farthest left is Today & it says one of 5.

 

I have not tried your second method yet as it does sound like a pain.  

 

What am I doing wrong?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
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Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:57 AM
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Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.

 

 

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Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

 

Hello all,

 

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?  

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sherry,

I guess I should mention that there is also another way to get to the Updates 
screen in the App Store. Some find this easier, I personally don’t since it can 
easily involve more gestures, but her eit is:

1. Double tap and hold on the App Store icon, when you let go Voiceover will 
say “Dismiss context menu”.
You now have a menu on the screen which, apart from the “Dismiss Context menu” 
item contains 6 more items:
App Store – this will simply open the App Store
Search button – this takes you directly where you can search for an app
Redeem button – this will take you to the place where you can redeem a gift card
Updates – this is your Updates area, it will take you to the same screen as 
opening the App Store and tapping on My Account
Purchased – this will show you a list of your purchased apps
Edit Home Screen – this is where you hear “started editing” which is if you 
want to drag or delete an app.

The Updates, Redeem and Purchased items are also all there in App Store > My 
Account
Updates is not a tab any more, it’s part of the My Account screen and it’s a 
heading so you could also go to App Store > My Account, turn the rotor to 
headings and then swipe down, but I find it easier when I’m there just to touch 
maybe an inch or so above the home button, if you are too high you may land on 
Add Funds to Apple Id or Personalized Recommendations, in that case just swipe 
right once or twice.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.


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Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

Hello all,

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells
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Re: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[Gerardo Corripio]

Make sure you’re in the Home Tab (furthest to the left on the bottom row of the 
screen. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 25 nov 2019, a la(s) 9:57 a. m., Sieghard Weitzel  
> escribió:
> 
> 
> After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
> tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find 
> your  updates including an update all button.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> sherrywells1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:48 AM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 
> 12 something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the 
> update tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app 
> store & there is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, 
> Apps, Arcade & search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but 
> found no way to do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do 
> I update apps? 
>  
> Thanks,
> Sherry Wells
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RE: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

After going to the App Store, swipe right until you hear “My Account”, double 
tap, then touch the screen a little above the home button and you’ll find your  
updates including an update all button.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:48 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

Hello all,

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS 12 
something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the update 
tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app store & there 
is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games, Apps, Arcade & 
search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but found no way to 
do updates.  I’m sure I’m missing something obvious.  How do I update apps?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells
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How to Update Apps in Current Version of IOS

[sherrywells1157]

Hello all,

 

I recently got a new IPhone, an 8.  On my old 5S which was still running IOS
12 something, I could update apps by going to the app store, selecting the
update tab at the bottom then selecting update all.  Now I go to the app
store & there is no update tab at the bottom.  The tabs are Today, Games,
Apps, Arcade & search.  I looked around in the Apps, Search & Today tabs but
found no way to do updates.  I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.  How do
I update apps?  

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

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RE: Siri Voices On Two Phones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

But if you set up a family group and add her Apple Id she can have access to 
all the apps unless some don’t allow family sharing and I have rarely seen any 
which don’t and if she buys something it is still charged to your credit card.
This is exactly what family sharing is for, people can have their own Apple Id, 
but you can share apps and a payment card yet each person has their own Apple 
Id which they can use for Facetime, iMessage or to backup their own stuff and 
photos.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Victor 
Gouveia
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 9:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri Voices On Two Phones

Mostly for payment reasons and the fact I’ve got some apps I’ve purchased that 
are on my accounts she uses also.
Victor

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 12:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri Voices On Two Phones

She should try to set up her own Apple Id, I assume somehow whatever one 
selects on one device is synced to the other device via the Apple Id.
Is there a particular reason why you want to use the same Apple Id on both 
devices? In my opinion this is asking for problems if two different people use 
the phones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Victor 
Gouveia
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri Voices On Two Phones

Hi Folks,

I have quite the quandary.  I have two phones, a 6S and an XS, both with my 
Apple I.D. on them, however, one is being used by my daughter and has a 
completely different number from the 6S, which I am using, also with a 
different number.

She currently has an Australian male voice on her Siri, and it’s bled over to 
mine.

When I changed it on my phone, it changed on hers.  She changed it back to 
Australian male, which also made the change on my phone.

Is there a way she can keep her Australian male and I keep my female voice?

Victor
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Re: copying ringtones to an iOS device from the Mac in Catalina

[John Panarese]

  The one thing that might be missing here for multiple selections is, yes, 
VO-Command-enter is used for multiple selection, but you have to navigate to 
each file using the VO-arrow keys and then pressing VO-Command-Enter to select 
that item.


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> On Nov 24, 2019, at 11:53 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I've been working with someone in Apple Accessibility tech support on copying 
> ringtones from a Mac to an iOS device running Catalina, and they sent me 
> steps that work. I can't get the part of the directions involving selecting 
> multiple tones at once to work, but copying one tone at a time works reliably 
> using this method. I'm so glad there's a way to do this without Garage Band! 
> Here are the steps:
> 
> 1) Open two Finder windows: one containing the General tab of an iOS device 
> and one with a folder containing a ringtone file (MPEG-4 audio file with .m4r 
> file extension).
> 2) Move the VoiceOver cursor to the ringtone file. To install more than one 
> ringtone, use VO-Command-Return to select each of the ringtones before 
> proceeding to the next step.
> 3) Press VO-Command-fn-5 to move the mouse pointer to the VoiceOver cursor's 
> location.
> 4) Press VO-Command-Shift-Space to click and hold the mouse button (to start 
> dragging).
> 5) Use Window Chooser (VO-fn-2-2) to switch to the Finder window that the iOS 
> device is in.
> 6) Move the VoiceOver cursor to "General, scroll area".
> 7) Press VO-Command-Shift-Space to release the mouse button (to drop the 
> files in this location).
> 
> Enjoy,
> Anna
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RE: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Anna
Thanks so much but now you must please assist one more time. I connected the 
new phone to the pc and in itunes I clicked on the iPhone button and tabbed 
through to the "sync" button and pressed enter. After the sync going through 
the tabs again it shows 16.8 GB of music but my iTunes music folder on the pc 
has 59.9 GB of music. Must I first select the music and then activate the 
iPhone button? I do not want to download from iCloud because that 59 GB is more 
than my download data package, so its going to cost me a lot, so I would like 
to transfer the music via itunes to the phone. Where did I go wrong?
Kind regards
Fanus


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Sent: Monday, 25 November 2019 04:37
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Subject: Re: Transfer music from iPod to iPhone 11

Hi Fanus,

The music on your iPod is, I assume, also in the iTunes library on your 
computer. Your best bet would be syncing your iPhone with your computer and 
copying the music from your iTunes library to your phone. If your iTunes 
library is small enough, you can sync the whole thing with your iPhone. If not, 
you can select music in iTunes and choose Add to Device to copy it across.

If you have Apple Music or use iTunes Match, all the music in your iTunes 
library is in iCloud, and you can download it from there to your phone when 
it's connected to Wi-Fi. Even if you have neither of these services, any music 
you have purchased from the iTunes store is available in iCloud to be 
downloaded to your phone. 

Best,
Anna


> On Nov 23, 2019, at 3:39 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
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> Hello list
> Is there a feature to transfer music on my iPod 6th gen to my new iPhone 11
> without using data from my internet capped plan?
> Regards
> Fanus
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