RE: A little more about my iPhone voice and clarity

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Are you sure the high quality voice had time to download? I don't know if you 
have a fiber connection in which case it should be very quick, but if you have 
a slower internet connection it can take a bit of time.



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Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 9:59 PM
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Subject: A little more about my iPhone voice and clarity

I realize that I probably didn't explain my question very well.
When I reset my phone to factory settings, I went back into VoiceOver and chose 
the Ava voice, which is one I'd used for a while.  However, she sounds kind of 
muffled or maybe compact instead of as clear as she once did.  Is there an 
audio setting to fix the clarity or compactness of the voice?  I don't really 
know how to ask the question.  I just know it sounds strange or kind of muffled.
Tom

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A little more about my iPhone voice and clarity

[Tom Cramer]

I realize that I probably didn't explain my question very well.
When I reset my phone to factory settings, I went back into VoiceOver
and chose the Ava voice, which is one I'd used for a while.  However,
she sounds kind of muffled or maybe compact instead of as clear as she
once did.  Is there an audio setting to fix the clarity or compactness
of the voice?  I don't really know how to ask the question.  I just
know it sounds strange or kind of muffled.
Tom

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RE: iPhone voice sounds funny

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you were using Samantha High Quality or one of the SIRI voices you will have 
to go int Voiceover Settings and select it again, by default I think Samantha 
Compact is used.


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Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:02 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: iPhone voice sounds funny

Hello,
I recently had to take my phone back to factory settings.  I didn't delete my 
data, but all of the settings went back and I'm having to re-do them.  Right 
now, my VoiceOver voice sounds funny.  It doesn't sound clear the way it used 
to, and I chose the voice I was using before.  Is there some sort of setting I 
need to use for this?
Tom

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iPhone voice sounds funny

[Tom Cramer]

Hello,
I recently had to take my phone back to factory settings.  I didn't
delete my data, but all of the settings went back and I'm having to
re-do them.  Right now, my VoiceOver voice sounds funny.  It doesn't
sound clear the way it used to, and I chose the voice I was using
before.  Is there some sort of setting I need to use for this?
Tom

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RE: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now Recommending

[Sieghard Weitzel]

This does seem like a nice little printer, I have 2 HP Laserjet Pro printers at 
my business right now, 1 M103W and 1 M118W which is newer and they are always a 
safe
Investment. This is one example where Amazon is not always the cheapest, at 
least not here in Canada. This printer is available here from the HP Store for 
$119 Canadian which converts to only about $90 US. Under Windows 10 I rarely 
even install any printer software, both my Laserjet Pro models just show up and 
work.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now Recommending

Hello All,

I purchased the HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A) from 
Amazon and I absolutely love it.

It has all of the features I require including the ability to insert standard 
mailing envelopes into the sheet feeder as a custom slot.

In order to use this printer, as an AirPrint, printer, you must download the 
free HP Smart app, once.  You use the app to configure the printer for use on 
your network.  This is to say, the app facilitates the ability to enter your 
network password, etc.  As I said, you only need to do this once as, once done, 
all Apple devices can see the printer on the network and you may print to your 
heart's content.  The app is 100% VoiceOver accessible.  

The printer is the tiniest laser printer I've ever seen.  It uses a mini-toner 
cartridge so it's perfect as a portable laser printer.  

Oh, this is not a color laser.

Even when printing photos, it takes less than 10 seconds for the unit to start 
printing.  When printing documents, the unit begins printing almost 
immediately.  Of course, this is my experience, your milage may vary.

>From what I can tell, most of the negative reviews about the unit, on Amazon, 
>come from Windows users.

To be clear, you do not need to install any HP software on any of your Apple 
devices in order to use the printer, save the HP Smart app, on one device, to 
configure the unit.  For you more advanced users, the printer has its own web 
server so you can log directly into the unit via a web browser, should you wish.

Although the unit ships with a USB cable, for use with Apple devices, it is not 
necessary.

Now, in full disclosure, I have not used the printer with a Windows device.
>From what I can tell, the process of configuring the unit is more complicated 
>on Windows but I cannot speak to that.

The printer costs approximately $110.00 USD.

As for unpacking the unit, it would probably be best to have a sighted person 
handy as un-taping the various parts could be challenging for an inexperienced 
user.  The only assembly is to unpack the toner cartridge and preparing it for 
installation.

There are only 3 hardware buttons on the unit that are flush with the surface 
but one can certainly put tape on them to mark their location.
Also, the unit makes a definite sound when plugged into the wall so there can 
be no doubt as to when the unit is powered up.

Okay, here is the URL for the printer on Amazon.

HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A)   
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079QRKWLX/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_i_c_deufEbMKW1STR

Enjoy,

Mark

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A really cool news app for local news

[Gordon]

So I've Ben using breaking news for years to get national news from 
multiple news sources. Earlier I was on face book and saw an 
advertisement for smart news. It's free and gives you local or national 
news for several sources. The only thing you have to do to make it 
accessible is to choose smart view each time you click on a news story 
to read it in it's entirety. If you don't, voice over will jump all over 
the page. I find this app to be quite useful. It even has notifications 
you can customize.


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RE: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

[Alan Lemly]

Mark,

Thanks so much for taking the time to give such detailed instructions. I very 
much appreciate it.

I believe my issue was in item 4 of your example but I will admit that when 
going through the Apps Store updates today, I saw a Twitter update from a 
couple of days ago that I wasn't running when I posted my message. I'll not be 
discouraged and will keep on keeping on with Twitter and will let you know of 
my next attempt and its outcome. I did install Twitterific to have as a 
fallback in case I experience future problems.

Thanks so much for your moderation of this list. I get so much helpful info 
from it.

Alan

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M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

Hello Alan,

Okay, first, I could not reproduce your findings as I was able to send a direct 
message without any difficulty.  

I will paste in your previously listed steps updated with my own.

Second, when trying to reproduce your experience, I could not locate any 
account that starts with the word Beats.  So, if you could reply with the @Name 
for the profile you wish to contact, I will see if I can send them a direct 
message.  

Since I could not locate your intended recipient, I sent a direct message to 
Apple Support, @AppleSupport, a profile to which I have sent direct messages, 
in the past..


1.
>From within Twitter, select the Messages tab.

2.
Activate the Compose New Message, button..

3.
Either search for @AppleSupport or, if you have previously contacted them, 
locate their profile from the previously contacted list, located below the 
Search field, and single-finger, double tap the profile to activate it.

4.
Either by swiping or explore-by-touch, locate the edit field which VoiceOver 
announces as, �Compose new message, start a new message,� and single-finger, 
double-tap the field to display the on-screen keyboard.

5.
Type in your message and, when finished, activate the �Send�, button.

That�s all there is to it.

Alan, give this another try and let us know how it goes.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

Francisco,

Many thanks for your reply. I'm glad to know about the custom actions provided 
when swiping up and down on a Tweet. I'm still finding the Twitter app horribly 
unintuitive when using Voiceover and I'm going to give an example below so I 
can hopefully modify my procedures to get better at tweeting.

1. I execute the Messages tab button which is the rightmost button on the 
bottomline menu.
2. I double tap on the compose new message button which is just above the 
Messages button on the bottomline menu.
3. Focus is on a search box where I can search for people and groups to whom 
I'd like to send the message. If I swipe right, I'm taken to a list of what I'm 
guessing is previous accounts I've tweeted to in the past. I place focus on the 
first one of these which is Beats by Dre Support and double tap.
4. I'm taken to a text field which Voiceover speaks Beats by Dre Support so I'm 
thinking this must be the Send To address. When I swipe right once, Voiceover 
says text field is editing word mode insertion point at start so I'm thinking 
this is where I should type my tweet.
5. The on screen keyboard is present so I type Test. However, the Send button 
which is on a horizontal menu that appears above the on screen keyboard is 
dimmed and as I swipe, I'm presented with @test so apparently I wasn't in the 
text field to compose my tweet but was still in some sort of send to field 
since the app is searching for someone to send to.

If you could give me some direction as to how to get into the actual text area 
in which to compose a tweet after selecting the Send to person as I described 
above, I'd love to hear it. I'd have to rate Twitter as inaccessible based on 
what I'm experiencing. If this is due to operator error on my part, please 
instruct me so I can correct my actions.

Alan

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Francisco Salvador Crespo
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

Hello Alan.

The button for composing a new tweet is located in the bottom right corner of 
the screen, just above the messages tab.
Each tweet has Voiceover custom actions that let you reply, retweet, like, open 
a link and much more by flicking up and down.
To dm a specific account, go to their profile, either from the search tab or 
with Voiceover actions from a tweet this person sent and you will find the 
compose dm button within a few fliks from the top element.

Hope this helps.

Best.

En

RE: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alan,

Okay, first, I could not reproduce your findings as I was able to send a direct 
message without any difficulty.  

I will paste in your previously listed steps updated with my own.

Second, when trying to reproduce your experience, I could not locate any 
account that starts with the word Beats.  So, if you could reply with the @Name 
for the profile you wish to contact, I will see if I can send them a direct 
message.  

Since I could not locate your intended recipient, I sent a direct message to 
Apple Support, @AppleSupport, a profile to which I have sent direct messages, 
in the past..


1.
>From within Twitter, select the Messages tab.

2.
Activate the Compose New Message, button..

3.
Either search for @AppleSupport or, if you have previously contacted them, 
locate their profile from the previously contacted list, located below the 
Search field, and single-finger, double tap the profile to activate it.

4.
Either by swiping or explore-by-touch, locate the edit field which VoiceOver 
announces as, “Compose new message, start a new message,” and single-finger, 
double-tap the field to display the on-screen keyboard.

5.
Type in your message and, when finished, activate the “Send”, button.

That’s all there is to it.

Alan, give this another try and let us know how it goes.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

Francisco,

Many thanks for your reply. I'm glad to know about the custom actions provided 
when swiping up and down on a Tweet. I'm still finding the Twitter app horribly 
unintuitive when using Voiceover and I'm going to give an example below so I 
can hopefully modify my procedures to get better at tweeting.

1. I execute the Messages tab button which is the rightmost button on the 
bottomline menu.
2. I double tap on the compose new message button which is just above the 
Messages button on the bottomline menu.
3. Focus is on a search box where I can search for people and groups to whom 
I'd like to send the message. If I swipe right, I'm taken to a list of what I'm 
guessing is previous accounts I've tweeted to in the past. I place focus on the 
first one of these which is Beats by Dre Support and double tap.
4. I'm taken to a text field which Voiceover speaks Beats by Dre Support so I'm 
thinking this must be the Send To address. When I swipe right once, Voiceover 
says text field is editing word mode insertion point at start so I'm thinking 
this is where I should type my tweet.
5. The on screen keyboard is present so I type Test. However, the Send button 
which is on a horizontal menu that appears above the on screen keyboard is 
dimmed and as I swipe, I'm presented with @test so apparently I wasn't in the 
text field to compose my tweet but was still in some sort of send to field 
since the app is searching for someone to send to.

If you could give me some direction as to how to get into the actual text area 
in which to compose a tweet after selecting the Send to person as I described 
above, I'd love to hear it. I'd have to rate Twitter as inaccessible based on 
what I'm experiencing. If this is due to operator error on my part, please 
instruct me so I can correct my actions.

Alan

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Francisco Salvador Crespo
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

Hello Alan.

The button for composing a new tweet is located in the bottom right corner of 
the screen, just above the messages tab.
Each tweet has Voiceover custom actions that let you reply, retweet, like, open 
a link and much more by flicking up and down.
To dm a specific account, go to their profile, either from the search tab or 
with Voiceover actions from a tweet this person sent and you will find the 
compose dm button within a few fliks from the top element.

Hope this helps.

Best.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 8 ene. 2020, a las 12:40, Alan Lemly  escribió:

Hi List,
 
I'm trying to use Twitter to send a direct message to @BeatsSupport but I'm 
finding the Twitter app less than intuitive on my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.3. 
I'm already following @BeatsSupport but when I swipe across any of the Twitter 
screens, I'll be darned if Voiceover announces anything like send a Tweet. This 
seems to me to be the main purpose of the app so how does one create a new 
tweet or respond to an existing Twitter thread when using Voiceover?
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Alan Lemly
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Re: update facebook and it is a good one

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
I wasn’t able to find the update listed but I still managed to find it  by 
double-tapping My Account > Purchased, then locating Facebook and 
double-tapping on its name. My original intent was to look at the version 
history, but right away I saw the Update button so I double-tapped that and the 
download began. I still have yet to test it extensively but so far so good.

Tom 

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:46 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the good news about Facebook.  I went into the APP store just now 
> and the latest update isn't available where I am just yet.  But when it is, 
> I'll download it and share your news with my friends.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi folks
>>  
>> Simple and short message. Update fb v252 fixes the issue of random crashes 
>> when reading ones newsfeed.
>> Regards
>> Davy
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Re: update facebook and it is a good one

[Leo]

Hi, it wasn't available for me either, but I went to the search tab,
wrote "facebook"" in the edit box and when the facebook app came up I
tapped in the app's name as if I were going to check the description,
and I found that the update button was already available. Now facebook
is working just great!


Best,
   Leo

On 1/8/2020 3:46 PM, Duane Steele wrote:

Thanks for the good news about Facebook.  I went into the APP store
just now and the latest update isn't available where I am just yet.
 But when it is, I'll download it and share your news with my friends.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194


On Jan 8, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:


Hi folks
Simple and short message. Update fb v252 fixes the issue of random
crashes when reading ones newsfeed.
Regards
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Re: annoying issue with voice dream reader, it keeps stopping when I don't stop it myself

[Richard Turner]

This is one of those situations that if this is the only book doing that, I'd 
suspect there is an issue with one of the files or something.
You may want to write to wins...@voicedream.com
and see if he has any ideas. He is the developer.




Richard
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-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

Hi to all.  I have just returned from lunch and while I was eating
some pizza, I was using voice dream reader to listen to the book
Treasure Island.  This is a commercial book that I had zipped and it
is in mp3 format.  I began to listen to the book and I turned off
voice over and locked my iPhone.  I thought, I could just continue to
listen to my book until I stopped it.  This has always worked in the
past, but not today.  I was listening along when maybe after 4 or 5
chapters, the book just stopped without warning before another chapter
was to begin.  I restarted the book and it backed up a few minutes of
previously listened audio.  I advanced in the book a couple minutes
and found my place again.  It kept happening.  Its not that I can't
listen to my book, but this is annoying.  I restarted my iPhone and
that didn't fix the issue.  I also opened the app switcher and closed
a bunch of apps thinking that was the problem.  What else can I try.
I even went into my settings and checked the settings for voice dream
reader.  Thanks for any help.

--
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Re: Facebook Shutting Down

[l . d . ethier23]

Great!

Lyne

> Le 8 janv. 2020 à 16:28, Davy Cuppens  a écrit :
> 
> Hi bonjour Lyne
>  
> Normally the bug has gone now.
> Davy
>  
> From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Facebook Shutting Down
>  
> But I can confirm that we are many to experimente this.
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 8 janv. 2020 à 11:20, Sieghard Weitzel  a écrit :
>> 
>> Davy,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Please include the part where it is not a bug everybody experiences. On my 
>> iPhone 8 it did this for a few days after I think version 251 came out maybe 
>> a week or 10 days ago, then it stopped and I have been using the Facebook 
>> ever since without a single crash. Why it doesn’t crash for me and it does 
>> so for others I don’t know.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
>> Cuppens
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 11:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Facebook Shutting Down
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It is an overall general bug and reinstalling the app or chosing to sort by 
>> the newest newsfeed updates like some others pretend, won’t help people out.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So again and again, do not update to v251 and if you did so bomb, bomb and 
>> bomb again facebook’s servers to report that bug.
>> 
>> The tweet of @fbaccess is telling that the problem isunder investigation but 
>> then again, report it to facebook, f.e. by shaking your phone.
>> 
>> Davy
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Albert Ruel
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 7:04 PM
>> 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Subject: Facebook Shutting Down
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi all.  At the start of this particular bug I wasn’t having the same 
>> experience as was often reported here, then a couple of weeks into it my 
>> phone started playing the same game.  Last evening I decided to uninstall 
>> Facebook then re-download and install it anew.  Once I signed back in it 
>> seemed to work well.  The caution is though, I haven’t spent a lot of time 
>> playing with it so don’t know how it’ll react with hours of log-in time. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thx, Albert
>> 
>>  
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Re: How do I change the volume for voiceover while lowering it forPandora?

['jan howells' via VIPhone]

I have an iPad Mini 4.  When I go into settings and then go to 
general and go to sounds and then volume, when I swipe up or down 
with one finger, I can either turn my volume all the way up or 
all the way down.  I cannot adjust any further.  I used to be 
able to adjust the volume in percents before some of the updates.  
Am I doing something wrong?


Jan

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Re: update facebook and it is a good one

[Duane Steele]

Thanks for the good news about Facebook.  I went into the APP store just now 
and the latest update isn't available where I am just yet.  But when it is, 
I'll download it and share your news with my friends.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
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> Simple and short message. Update fb v252 fixes the issue of random crashes 
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> Regards
> Davy
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Re: Facebook Shutting Down

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi bonjour Lyne 

Normally the bug has gone now.
Davy 

From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Facebook Shutting Down

But I can confirm that we are many to experimente this.


Lyne

Le 8 janv. 2020 à 11:20, Sieghard Weitzel  a écrit :


  Davy,

   

  Please include the part where it is not a bug everybody experiences. On my 
iPhone 8 it did this for a few days after I think version 251 came out maybe a 
week or 10 days ago, then it stopped and I have been using the Facebook ever 
since without a single crash. Why it doesn’t crash for me and it does so for 
others I don’t know.

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
  Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 11:58 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Facebook Shutting Down

   

  It is an overall general bug and reinstalling the app or chosing to sort by 
the newest newsfeed updates like some others pretend, won’t help people out.

   

  So again and again, do not update to v251 and if you did so bomb, bomb and 
bomb again facebook’s servers to report that bug.

  The tweet of @fbaccess is telling that the problem isunder investigation but 
then again, report it to facebook, f.e. by shaking your phone.

  Davy 

   

  From: Albert Ruel 

  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 7:04 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Facebook Shutting Down

   

  Hi all.  At the start of this particular bug I wasn’t having the same 
experience as was often reported here, then a couple of weeks into it my phone 
started playing the same game.  Last evening I decided to uninstall Facebook 
then re-download and install it anew.  Once I signed back in it seemed to work 
well.  The caution is though, I haven’t spent a lot of time playing with it so 
don’t know how it’ll react with hours of log-in time.  

   

  Thx, Albert

   

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annoying issue with voice dream reader, it keeps stopping when I don't stop it myself

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I have just returned from lunch and while I was eating
some pizza, I was using voice dream reader to listen to the book
Treasure Island.  This is a commercial book that I had zipped and it
is in mp3 format.  I began to listen to the book and I turned off
voice over and locked my iPhone.  I thought, I could just continue to
listen to my book until I stopped it.  This has always worked in the
past, but not today.  I was listening along when maybe after 4 or 5
chapters, the book just stopped without warning before another chapter
was to begin.  I restarted the book and it backed up a few minutes of
previously listened audio.  I advanced in the book a couple minutes
and found my place again.  It kept happening.  Its not that I can't
listen to my book, but this is annoying.  I restarted my iPhone and
that didn't fix the issue.  I also opened the app switcher and closed
a bunch of apps thinking that was the problem.  What else can I try.
I even went into my settings and checked the settings for voice dream
reader.  Thanks for any help.

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Re: Facebook Shutting Down

[l . d . ethier23]

But I can confirm that we are many to experimente this.

Lyne

> Le 8 janv. 2020 à 11:20, Sieghard Weitzel  a écrit :
> 
> Davy,
>  
> Please include the part where it is not a bug everybody experiences. On my 
> iPhone 8 it did this for a few days after I think version 251 came out maybe 
> a week or 10 days ago, then it stopped and I have been using the Facebook 
> ever since without a single crash. Why it doesn’t crash for me and it does so 
> for others I don’t know.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
> Cuppens
> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 11:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Facebook Shutting Down
>  
> It is an overall general bug and reinstalling the app or chosing to sort by 
> the newest newsfeed updates like some others pretend, won’t help people out.
>  
> So again and again, do not update to v251 and if you did so bomb, bomb and 
> bomb again facebook’s servers to report that bug.
> The tweet of @fbaccess is telling that the problem isunder investigation but 
> then again, report it to facebook, f.e. by shaking your phone.
> Davy
>  
> From: Albert Ruel
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 7:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Facebook Shutting Down
>  
> Hi all.  At the start of this particular bug I wasn’t having the same 
> experience as was often reported here, then a couple of weeks into it my 
> phone started playing the same game.  Last evening I decided to uninstall 
> Facebook then re-download and install it anew.  Once I signed back in it 
> seemed to work well.  The caution is though, I haven’t spent a lot of time 
> playing with it so don’t know how it’ll react with hours of log-in time. 
>  
> Thx, Albert
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update facebook and it is a good one

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks 

Simple and short message. Update fb v252 fixes the issue of random crashes when 
reading ones newsfeed.
Regards
Davy 

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Facebook update available in App Store.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

An update to Facebook is now available via the App Store.

Although I have not extensively tested it my initial findings are favourable.  
The bug that crashed the app with VO running appears to have been fixed.

Malcolm

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alan,

As you may know, I am a huge fan of the native Twitter app.

I don’t have time in this moment but, later today, if you have not yet received 
any replies on this, I will reply with a comprehensive answer to your dilemma.

Not to engage in a debate but don’t give up on the Twitter app, just yet 
(smile).

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

Francisco,

Many thanks for your reply. I'm glad to know about the custom actions provided 
when swiping up and down on a Tweet. I'm still finding the Twitter app horribly 
unintuitive when using Voiceover and I'm going to give an example below so I 
can hopefully modify my procedures to get better at tweeting.

1. I execute the Messages tab button which is the rightmost button on the 
bottomline menu.
2. I double tap on the compose new message button which is just above the 
Messages button on the bottomline menu.
3. Focus is on a search box where I can search for people and groups to whom 
I'd like to send the message. If I swipe right, I'm taken to a list of what I'm 
guessing is previous accounts I've tweeted to in the past. I place focus on the 
first one of these which is Beats by Dre Support and double tap.
4. I'm taken to a text field which Voiceover speaks Beats by Dre Support so I'm 
thinking this must be the Send To address. When I swipe right once, Voiceover 
says text field is editing word mode insertion point at start so I'm thinking 
this is where I should type my tweet.
5. The on screen keyboard is present so I type Test. However, the Send button 
which is on a horizontal menu that appears above the on screen keyboard is 
dimmed and as I swipe, I'm presented with @test so apparently I wasn't in the 
text field to compose my tweet but was still in some sort of send to field 
since the app is searching for someone to send to.

If you could give me some direction as to how to get into the actual text area 
in which to compose a tweet after selecting the Send to person as I described 
above, I'd love to hear it. I'd have to rate Twitter as inaccessible based on 
what I'm experiencing. If this is due to operator error on my part, please 
instruct me so I can correct my actions.

Alan

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Francisco Salvador Crespo
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

Hello Alan.

The button for composing a new tweet is located in the bottom right corner of 
the screen, just above the messages tab.
Each tweet has Voiceover custom actions that let you reply, retweet, like, open 
a link and much more by flicking up and down.
To dm a specific account, go to their profile, either from the search tab or 
with Voiceover actions from a tweet this person sent and you will find the 
compose dm button within a few fliks from the top element.

Hope this helps.

Best.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 8 ene. 2020, a las 12:40, Alan Lemly  escribió:

Hi List,
 
I'm trying to use Twitter to send a direct message to @BeatsSupport but I'm 
finding the Twitter app less than intuitive on my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.3. 
I'm already following @BeatsSupport but when I swipe across any of the Twitter 
screens, I'll be darned if Voiceover announces anything like send a Tweet. This 
seems to me to be the main purpose of the app so how does one create a new 
tweet or respond to an existing Twitter thread when using Voiceover?
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Alan Lemly
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Here is a Very Good AirPrint Laser Printer that I am Now Recommending

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I purchased the HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A) from
Amazon and I absolutely love it.

It has all of the features I require including the ability to insert
standard mailing envelopes into the sheet feeder as a custom slot.

In order to use this printer, as an AirPrint, printer, you must download the
free HP Smart app, once.  You use the app to configure the printer for use
on your network.  This is to say, the app facilitates the ability to enter
your network password, etc.  As I said, you only need to do this once as,
once done, all Apple devices can see the printer on the network and you may
print to your heart's content.  The app is 100% VoiceOver accessible.  

The printer is the tiniest laser printer I've ever seen.  It uses a
mini-toner cartridge so it's perfect as a portable laser printer.  

Oh, this is not a color laser.

Even when printing photos, it takes less than 10 seconds for the unit to
start printing.  When printing documents, the unit begins printing almost
immediately.  Of course, this is my experience, your milage may vary.

>From what I can tell, most of the negative reviews about the unit, on
Amazon, come from Windows users.

To be clear, you do not need to install any HP software on any of your Apple
devices in order to use the printer, save the HP Smart app, on one device,
to configure the unit.  For you more advanced users, the printer has its own
web server so you can log directly into the unit via a web browser, should
you wish.

Although the unit ships with a USB cable, for use with Apple devices, it is
not necessary.

Now, in full disclosure, I have not used the printer with a Windows device.
>From what I can tell, the process of configuring the unit is more
complicated on Windows but I cannot speak to that.

The printer costs approximately $110.00 USD.

As for unpacking the unit, it would probably be best to have a sighted
person handy as un-taping the various parts could be challenging for an
inexperienced user.  The only assembly is to unpack the toner cartridge and
preparing it for installation.

There are only 3 hardware buttons on the unit that are flush with the
surface but one can certainly put tape on them to mark their location.
Also, the unit makes a definite sound when plugged into the wall so there
can be no doubt as to when the unit is powered up.

Okay, here is the URL for the printer on Amazon.

HP LaserJet Pro M15w Wireless Laser Printer (W2G51A)   
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079QRKWLX/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_i_c_deufEbMKW1STR

Enjoy,

Mark

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Re: Two email addresses on the same iPhone?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Agreed, I'm just used to manual or when I open the mail app to take a look. 
That is when I need to see them all and it doesn't do 
much to battery really when like that.

Thanks, RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 4:23 PM
Subject: RE: Two email addresses on the same iPhone?


Just keep in mind that the more you have the more battery your iPhone uses 
especially if you have Push enabled.
If you set up more than 2 I suggest it is better to set the checking for new 
mail to an hourly schedule or manual.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two email addresses on the same iPhone?

Yes, you can have as many email accounts as you want.
I have 5.
You set them up under Settings, Passwords and Accounts, and you will find each 
account is available in the mail app separately, or 
you can choose all mail if you want to look at them all in one place, which I 
do not like, but to each his/her own.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Jan 7, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Ann Byrne 
mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
I activated my student's gmail account on her iPhone.  she has another account 
that she would also like to use on her phone.  Can 
she do this?  I couldn't get back to the page to add a second account.  Am I 
missing something?

thanks,
Ann

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RE: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

If ever you get frustrated enough with the Twitter app, you could always give 
Twitterrific a spin. It’s completely Voiceover accessible and in my opinion at 
least a way better user experience than the native twitter app. No promoted 
tweets, a nice chronological stream and in general less clunky. 

It used to be a one time app purchase, but they recently went to a year sub 
which is something like $5 a year.

A lot of blind folks use Twitterrific for the reasons stated above. I simply 
use the Twitter app for notifications. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

 

Francisco,

 

Many thanks for your reply. I'm glad to know about the custom actions provided 
when swiping up and down on a Tweet. I'm still finding the Twitter app horribly 
unintuitive when using Voiceover and I'm going to give an example below so I 
can hopefully modify my procedures to get better at tweeting.

 

1.  I execute the Messages tab button which is the rightmost button on the 
bottomline menu.
2.  I double tap on the compose new message button which is just above the 
Messages button on the bottomline menu.
3.  Focus is on a search box where I can search for people and groups to 
whom I'd like to send the message. If I swipe right, I'm taken to a list of 
what I'm guessing is previous accounts I've tweeted to in the past. I place 
focus on the first one of these which is Beats by Dre Support and double tap.
4.  I'm taken to a text field which Voiceover speaks Beats by Dre Support 
so I'm thinking this must be the Send To address. When I swipe right once, 
Voiceover says text field is editing word mode insertion point at start so I'm 
thinking this is where I should type my tweet.
5.  The on screen keyboard is present so I type Test. However, the Send 
button which is on a horizontal menu that appears above the on screen keyboard 
is dimmed and as I swipe, I'm presented with @test so apparently I wasn't in 
the text field to compose my tweet but was still in some sort of send to field 
since the app is searching for someone to send to.

 

If you could give me some direction as to how to get into the actual text area 
in which to compose a tweet after selecting the Send to person as I described 
above, I'd love to hear it. I'd have to rate Twitter as inaccessible based on 
what I'm experiencing. If this is due to operator error on my part, please 
instruct me so I can correct my actions.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Salvador Crespo
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

 

Hello Alan.

 

The button for composing a new tweet is located in the bottom right corner of 
the screen, just above the messages tab.

Each tweet has Voiceover custom actions that let you reply, retweet, like, open 
a link and much more by flicking up and down.

To dm a specific account, go to their profile, either from the search tab or 
with Voiceover actions from a tweet this person sent and you will find the 
compose dm button within a few fliks from the top element.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Best.

 

Enviado desde mi iPhone

 

El 8 ene. 2020, a las 12:40, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > escribió:



Hi List,

 

I'm trying to use Twitter to send a direct message to @BeatsSupport but I'm 
finding the Twitter app less than intuitive on my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.3. 
I'm already following @BeatsSupport but when I swipe across any of the Twitter 
screens, I'll be darned if Voiceover announces anything like send a Tweet. This 
seems to me to be the main purpose of the app so how does one create a new 
tweet or respond to an existing Twitter thread when using Voiceover?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

[Alan Lemly]

Francisco,

 

Many thanks for your reply. I'm glad to know about the custom actions provided 
when swiping up and down on a Tweet. I'm still finding the Twitter app horribly 
unintuitive when using Voiceover and I'm going to give an example below so I 
can hopefully modify my procedures to get better at tweeting.

 

1.   I execute the Messages tab button which is the rightmost button on the 
bottomline menu.

2.   I double tap on the compose new message button which is just above the 
Messages button on the bottomline menu.

3.   Focus is on a search box where I can search for people and groups to whom 
I'd like to send the message. If I swipe right, I'm taken to a list of what I'm 
guessing is previous accounts I've tweeted to in the past. I place focus on the 
first one of these which is Beats by Dre Support and double tap.

4.   I'm taken to a text field which Voiceover speaks Beats by Dre Support so 
I'm thinking this must be the Send To address. When I swipe right once, 
Voiceover says text field is editing word mode insertion point at start so I'm 
thinking this is where I should type my tweet.

5.   The on screen keyboard is present so I type Test. However, the Send button 
which is on a horizontal menu that appears above the on screen keyboard is 
dimmed and as I swipe, I'm presented with @test so apparently I wasn't in the 
text field to compose my tweet but was still in some sort of send to field 
since the app is searching for someone to send to.

 

If you could give me some direction as to how to get into the actual text area 
in which to compose a tweet after selecting the Send to person as I described 
above, I'd love to hear it. I'd have to rate Twitter as inaccessible based on 
what I'm experiencing. If this is due to operator error on my part, please 
instruct me so I can correct my actions.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Francisco Salvador Crespo
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

 

Hello Alan.

 

The button for composing a new tweet is located in the bottom right corner of 
the screen, just above the messages tab.

Each tweet has Voiceover custom actions that let you reply, retweet, like, open 
a link and much more by flicking up and down.

To dm a specific account, go to their profile, either from the search tab or 
with Voiceover actions from a tweet this person sent and you will find the 
compose dm button within a few fliks from the top element.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Best.

 

Enviado desde mi iPhone





El 8 ene. 2020, a las 12:40, Alan Lemly  escribió:



Hi List,

 

I'm trying to use Twitter to send a direct message to @BeatsSupport but I'm 
finding the Twitter app less than intuitive on my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.3. 
I'm already following @BeatsSupport but when I swipe across any of the Twitter 
screens, I'll be darned if Voiceover announces anything like send a Tweet. This 
seems to me to be the main purpose of the app so how does one create a new 
tweet or respond to an existing Twitter thread when using Voiceover?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not just bose

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

I came across this site after listening to some demos of speakers on YouTube.

Not sure whether it os use to anyone but if you like take a look at:

http://switcher.oluvsgadgets.net/

There are recordings of various speakers and it is recommended to listen to 
them with headphones.

I know these things are subjective but worth a look I think.

Malcolm

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 Jan 2020, at 16:02, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> To me a small loss of sound quality in this would be perfectly acceptable 
> given the fact that at $299.99 the Bose neck speaker is 5 times as expensive 
> as the other one.
> Of course that exact same one you provided the link for and which after 
> applying the $10 coupon is $59.99 costs $188 on Amazon Canada, I just don't 
> get it sometimes.
> But I found another on Amazon Canada which even has FM Radio and which 
> otherwise sounds quite similar for $29.99 or something like that and I may 
> give that a try. I think the concept is not bad, but I certainly would never 
> ever spend that much on any Bluetooth headset/speaker and here in Canada the 
> Bose is $399 Canadian which is actually pretty much exactly what $299 US is 
> given the current exchange rate. I just realized that it's even on sale for 
> $299 Canadian on Amazon Canada right now, but that is still way too much, if 
> it were $149.99 I would probably consider it. The only headset I'd spend $300 
> or $400 on would be if Sonos finally comes up with a high quality headset 
> which acts as its own Sonos device/player and which preferably would also 
> have Alexa/Google Assistant built in. Maybe 2020 will finally be the year 
> when they'll release it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Moop 
> Curran
> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 11:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not just bose
> 
> Hi,
> The Bose SoundWear companion is $299.99 on amazon, although sometimes I’ve 
> seen it for $249.99. As much as I LOVE this neck speaker, I had to get one to 
> replace it (not replace it so much as be singled out as use on iOS) do to the 
> ongoing bluetooth issue with higher end devices on iOS 13.
> This is the one I got. It’s quite good, not as much bass as the bose (waah), 
> but it’s adequate, and at least VO and sounds come out of it like they’re 
> supposed to!!!
> Anyway, rant over, here’s the link. :)
> https://www.amazon.com/Neckband-Bluetooth-Speakers-Waterproof-Comfortable/dp/B07WGGBPGG/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?keywords=oraolo+go&qid=1578423644&sr=8-1-fkmr1
> 
> 
> 
> I still use my SoundWear companion, but I use it on my mac and android tablet 
> now. I sure miss it on my primary device, but oh well.
> 
> 
> I know people like VO and system sounds coming through the phone’s 
> speaker, but I don’t, because I can’t adjust the volume of VO while 
> the speaker is connected, even if nothing is playing.
> 
>> On 6 Jan 2020, at 20:46, Carolyn wrote:
>> 
>> What is this VO Companion, how much, and where did you get it?
>> 
>> I had an inexpensive neck Bluetooth - liked everything about it, 
>> except that when I tried to navigate screen, it was just crazy, like a 
>> drunk driving on an icy mountain road.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Moop Curran
>> Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 4:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not 
>> just bose
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Yes, but I enjoy the speaker more, because I can still have the 
>> somewhat private setting of a speaker without the bulkiness of a 
>> headset.
>> That’s why I like the wearable neck speaker, you can get the big 
>> loud sound of a speaker without cancelling out what’s around you, 
>> and it’s still somewhat private because it’s around your neck.
>> I’m sorry, it’s kind of hard to explain, lol. The neck speaker I 
>> use (or used to use before iOS 13 messed it up) it’s kind of a cross 
>> between a headset and a speaker system. Applevis has a review of it, 
>> it’s the Bose SoundWear companion.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Dec 2019, at 15:43, Mr. Ed wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Moop,
>>> Have you tried using a headset like the Logitech H800 to play your
>>> games and listen to music?
>>> Mr. Ed
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Courtney Curran
>>> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:33 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not just
>>> bose
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I know I’ve argued this point on this and other lists many times.
>>> But what I’m about to tell you just feeds my argument.
>>> Anyway, last month, I purchased a Tribit Storm Box BT speaker on
>>> Amazon, which works perfectly, how it should, speech and sounds and
>>> music coming out of it instead of the phone’s speaker.
>>> For

RE: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

[Alan Lemly]

Gera,

 

Thanks for confirming that the native Twitter app is less than intuitive with 
Voiceover. I have a policy that if an app requires another service in order to 
make it usable by the visually impaired, then I'm just not going to use it or 
use it on a very limited basis. The apps I use on my iPhone 8 seem to get 
updated weekly and sometimes multiple times in one week and I just don't 
believe an app such as Twitterrific can stay updated to work as it should.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

 

The native Twitter app isn’t that intuitive. Have you tried Twitterrific 
instead? Though it asks for a subscription if you’d like to support them, it 
can be used for free aside from occasionally asking you for. Good luck!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel





El 8 ene 2020, a la(s) 9:40 a.m., Alan Lemly  escribió:



Hi List,

 

I'm trying to use Twitter to send a direct message to @BeatsSupport but I'm 
finding the Twitter app less than intuitive on my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.3. 
I'm already following @BeatsSupport but when I swipe across any of the Twitter 
screens, I'll be darned if Voiceover announces anything like send a Tweet. This 
seems to me to be the main purpose of the app so how does one create a new 
tweet or respond to an existing Twitter thread when using Voiceover?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: how do I use ?Eyenote money app?

[Holly]

Josh:

I just downloaded it and after it was installed, it asked me for permission 
to access the camera.  I tapped 'allow' and then just pointed my phone at 
the bill and it read it perfectly and told me that it was a 20 and it was 
the front of the bill. 


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RE: Two email addresses on the same iPhone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just keep in mind that the more you have the more battery your iPhone uses 
especially if you have Push enabled.
If you set up more than 2 I suggest it is better to set the checking for new 
mail to an hourly schedule or manual.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two email addresses on the same iPhone?

Yes, you can have as many email accounts as you want.
I have 5.
You set them up under Settings, Passwords and Accounts, and you will find each 
account is available in the mail app separately, or you can choose all mail if 
you want to look at them all in one place, which I do not like, but to each 
his/her own.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Jan 7, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Ann Byrne 
mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
I activated my student's gmail account on her iPhone.  she has another account 
that she would also like to use on her phone.  Can she do this?  I couldn't get 
back to the page to add a second account.  Am I missing something?

thanks,
Ann

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RE: Facebook Shutting Down

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Davy,

Please include the part where it is not a bug everybody experiences. On my 
iPhone 8 it did this for a few days after I think version 251 came out maybe a 
week or 10 days ago, then it stopped and I have been using the Facebook ever 
since without a single crash. Why it doesn’t crash for me and it does so for 
others I don’t know.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook Shutting Down

It is an overall general bug and reinstalling the app or chosing to sort by the 
newest newsfeed updates like some others pretend, won’t help people out.

So again and again, do not update to v251 and if you did so bomb, bomb and bomb 
again facebook’s servers to report that bug.
The tweet of @fbaccess is telling that the problem isunder investigation but 
then again, report it to facebook, f.e. by shaking your phone.
Davy

From: Albert Ruel
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 7:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Facebook Shutting Down

Hi all.  At the start of this particular bug I wasn’t having the same 
experience as was often reported here, then a couple of weeks into it my phone 
started playing the same game.  Last evening I decided to uninstall Facebook 
then re-download and install it anew.  Once I signed back in it seemed to work 
well.  The caution is though, I haven’t spent a lot of time playing with it so 
don’t know how it’ll react with hours of log-in time.

Thx, Albert

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Re: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

[Francisco Salvador Crespo]

Hello Alan.

The button for composing a new tweet is located in the bottom right corner of 
the screen, just above the messages tab.
Each tweet has Voiceover custom actions that let you reply, retweet, like, open 
a link and much more by flicking up and down.
To dm a specific account, go to their profile, either from the search tab or 
with Voiceover actions from a tweet this person sent and you will find the 
compose dm button within a few fliks from the top element.

Hope this helps.

Best.


Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El 8 ene. 2020, a las 12:40, Alan Lemly  escribió:
> 
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I'm trying to use Twitter to send a direct message to @BeatsSupport but I'm 
> finding the Twitter app less than intuitive on my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.3. 
> I'm already following @BeatsSupport but when I swipe across any of the 
> Twitter screens, I'll be darned if Voiceover announces anything like send a 
> Tweet. This seems to me to be the main purpose of the app so how does one 
> create a new tweet or respond to an existing Twitter thread when using 
> Voiceover?
>  
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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RE: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not just bose

[Sieghard Weitzel]

To me a small loss of sound quality in this would be perfectly acceptable given 
the fact that at $299.99 the Bose neck speaker is 5 times as expensive as the 
other one.
Of course that exact same one you provided the link for and which after 
applying the $10 coupon is $59.99 costs $188 on Amazon Canada, I just don't get 
it sometimes.
But I found another on Amazon Canada which even has FM Radio and which 
otherwise sounds quite similar for $29.99 or something like that and I may give 
that a try. I think the concept is not bad, but I certainly would never ever 
spend that much on any Bluetooth headset/speaker and here in Canada the Bose is 
$399 Canadian which is actually pretty much exactly what $299 US is given the 
current exchange rate. I just realized that it's even on sale for $299 Canadian 
on Amazon Canada right now, but that is still way too much, if it were $149.99 
I would probably consider it. The only headset I'd spend $300 or $400 on would 
be if Sonos finally comes up with a high quality headset which acts as its own 
Sonos device/player and which preferably would also have Alexa/Google Assistant 
built in. Maybe 2020 will finally be the year when they'll release it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Moop 
Curran
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not just bose

Hi,
The Bose SoundWear companion is $299.99 on amazon, although sometimes I’ve seen 
it for $249.99. As much as I LOVE this neck speaker, I had to get one to 
replace it (not replace it so much as be singled out as use on iOS) do to the 
ongoing bluetooth issue with higher end devices on iOS 13.
This is the one I got. It’s quite good, not as much bass as the bose (waah), 
but it’s adequate, and at least VO and sounds come out of it like they’re 
supposed to!!!
Anyway, rant over, here’s the link. :)
https://www.amazon.com/Neckband-Bluetooth-Speakers-Waterproof-Comfortable/dp/B07WGGBPGG/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?keywords=oraolo+go&qid=1578423644&sr=8-1-fkmr1



I still use my SoundWear companion, but I use it on my mac and android tablet 
now. I sure miss it on my primary device, but oh well.


I know people like VO and system sounds coming through the phone’s 
speaker, but I don’t, because I can’t adjust the volume of VO while 
the speaker is connected, even if nothing is playing.

On 6 Jan 2020, at 20:46, Carolyn wrote:

> What is this VO Companion, how much, and where did you get it?
>
> I had an inexpensive neck Bluetooth - liked everything about it, 
> except that when I tried to navigate screen, it was just crazy, like a 
> drunk driving on an icy mountain road.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Moop Curran
> Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 4:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not 
> just bose
>
> Hi,
> Yes, but I enjoy the speaker more, because I can still have the 
> somewhat private setting of a speaker without the bulkiness of a 
> headset.
> That’s why I like the wearable neck speaker, you can get the big 
> loud sound of a speaker without cancelling out what’s around you, 
> and it’s still somewhat private because it’s around your neck.
> I’m sorry, it’s kind of hard to explain, lol. The neck speaker I 
> use (or used to use before iOS 13 messed it up) it’s kind of a cross 
> between a headset and a speaker system. Applevis has a review of it, 
> it’s the Bose SoundWear companion.
>
>
> On 28 Dec 2019, at 15:43, Mr. Ed wrote:
>
>> Hi Moop,
>> Have you tried using a headset like the Logitech H800 to play your
>> games and listen to music?
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Courtney Curran
>> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: The bluetooth issue people are experiencing, it's not just
>> bose
>>
>> Hi,
>> I know I’ve argued this point on this and other lists many times.
>> But what I’m about to tell you just feeds my argument.
>> Anyway, last month, I purchased a Tribit Storm Box BT speaker on
>> Amazon, which works perfectly, how it should, speech and sounds and
>> music coming out of it instead of the phone’s speaker.
>> For Christmas, I received the Tribit X-Sound Go (which I asked for as
>> a smaller option to the storm box, thinking oh, it will work, having
>> speech, audio, and sound coming out of it instead of the phone’s
>> speaker.) Darn if I didn’t pair it today, and it acts JUST like the
>> bose soundlink micro and the Bose soundwear, with speech coming out 
>> of
>> the phone (blah) and music (if I happen to be using the speaker for
>> music and not just games like I often do) coming through the speaker.
>> So I don’t think the problem is bose or even high end speakers,
>> because this xSound Go cost $2

Re: How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

[Gerardo Corripio]

The native Twitter app isn’t that intuitive. Have you tried Twitterrific 
instead? Though it asks for a subscription if you’d like to support them, it 
can be used for free aside from occasionally asking you for. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 8 ene 2020, a la(s) 9:40 a.m., Alan Lemly  escribió:
> 
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I'm trying to use Twitter to send a direct message to @BeatsSupport but I'm 
> finding the Twitter app less than intuitive on my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.3. 
> I'm already following @BeatsSupport but when I swipe across any of the 
> Twitter screens, I'll be darned if Voiceover announces anything like send a 
> Tweet. This seems to me to be the main purpose of the app so how does one 
> create a new tweet or respond to an existing Twitter thread when using 
> Voiceover?
>  
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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How do you send a new tweet with the Twitter app?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I'm trying to use Twitter to send a direct message to @BeatsSupport but I'm
finding the Twitter app less than intuitive on my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.3.
I'm already following @BeatsSupport but when I swipe across any of the
Twitter screens, I'll be darned if Voiceover announces anything like send a
Tweet. This seems to me to be the main purpose of the app so how does one
create a new tweet or respond to an existing Twitter thread when using
Voiceover?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

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Re: Changing My Email Address for the viPhone Group

[Mike B]

Hi Rob,

The switch was made successfully.  My hope was to be able to make the change 
through the group website like I do with Group.io mail groups I'm a member 
of, but unsubscribing & resubscribing worked seemlessly this time.  Thanks 
for your reply.

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: Changing My Email Address for the viPhone Group


We seem to be on emails lately, so if you have another address, send a 
subscription email from that, then once confirmed, send an
unsubscribe message from current address.

That's how I do such things.

RobH, managing to answer questions at last.


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To: "VIPhone" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 1:50 AM
Subject: Changing My Email Address for the viPhone Group


Hi All,

What is the best way to change my email address for this group?  I don't
have a place to go to do it myself, so would y'all please tell me the best
way to do this?  All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

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Re: how do I use ?Eyenote money app?

[Richard Turner]

Glad to hear it is working.




Richard
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On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:01 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I found my problem.  My room is very dark and doesn't have a lot of
light.  I tried the eyenote in my kitchen with the light on and it
worked great.  I do have it set to speech.

On 1/8/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
Hopefully, it asks you for permission to use the camera when you first
launched the app and you said yes.
If so, you want to hold the phone anywhere from 4 to 8 inches above the bill
and it should tell you the denomination and whether it is the front or back
of the bill.
You can go into the main phone settings, and find eyenote and make sure it
is allowed to use the camera, and you can add a menu where you can choose
between speech, tones or vibrations, but most people will want to stick with
speech.
Hth,




Richard
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Hi to all.  I got the Eyenote app like Richard suggested.  I took out
some money I know is a five after I downloaded and installed the app
on my phone.  When I open the app, it just says Eyenote and nothing
else.  What am I doing wrong?

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Re: how do I use ?Eyenote money app?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I found my problem.  My room is very dark and doesn't have a lot of
light.  I tried the eyenote in my kitchen with the light on and it
worked great.  I do have it set to speech.

On 1/8/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Hopefully, it asks you for permission to use the camera when you first
> launched the app and you said yes.
> If so, you want to hold the phone anywhere from 4 to 8 inches above the bill
> and it should tell you the denomination and whether it is the front or back
> of the bill.
> You can go into the main phone settings, and find eyenote and make sure it
> is allowed to use the camera, and you can add a menu where you can choose
> between speech, tones or vibrations, but most people will want to stick with
> speech.
> Hth,
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2020, at 2:17 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>
> Hi to all.  I got the Eyenote app like Richard suggested.  I took out
> some money I know is a five after I downloaded and installed the app
> on my phone.  When I open the app, it just says Eyenote and nothing
> else.  What am I doing wrong?
>
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Re: how do I use ?Eyenote money app?

[Richard Turner]

Hopefully, it asks you for permission to use the camera when you first launched 
the app and you said yes.
If so, you want to hold the phone anywhere from 4 to 8 inches above the bill 
and it should tell you the denomination and whether it is the front or back of 
the bill.
You can go into the main phone settings, and find eyenote and make sure it is 
allowed to use the camera, and you can add a menu where you can choose between 
speech, tones or vibrations, but most people will want to stick with speech.
Hth,




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On Jan 8, 2020, at 2:17 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

Hi to all.  I got the Eyenote app like Richard suggested.  I took out
some money I know is a five after I downloaded and installed the app
on my phone.  When I open the app, it just says Eyenote and nothing
else.  What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Two email addresses on the same iPhone?

[l . d . ethier23]

To add an e-mail address go to settings/pass word and account 

Lyne

> Le 8 janv. 2020 à 03:17, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  a 
> écrit :
> 
> Settings/mail-something and whatnot accounts;  I have 4 or more of different 
> services  and check them all.
> 
> RobH.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ann Byrne" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 10:24 PM
> Subject: Two email addresses on the same iPhone?
> 
> 
> I activated my student's gmail account on her iPhone.  she has
> another account that she would also like to use on her phone.  Can
> she do this?  I couldn't get back to the page to add a second
> account.  Am I missing something?
> 
> thanks,
> Ann
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Re: How do I change the volume for voiceover while lowering it for Pandora?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm sure there are multiple ways of doing this but two things come to my 
mind. First, go into VoiceOver settings and turn autoducking on. This 
will lower the volume of the media whenever VoiceOver is speaking. 
Another thing you could do is place volume in voiceOver's roter and then 
you can use the roter to get to the volume setting and then flick up or 
down with one finger to adjust VoiceOver's volume independently of the 
media. I'm just getting used to using an iPhone again full time, so I 
hope this helps tide you over until someone more experienced has a a 
chance to chime in.




On 1/8/20 3:05 AM, 'EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone wrote:

Hello. I hope I’m writing this message in the message body and not in the 
subject line like I did for my last few messages. I’m just getting the hang of 
using email on my iPhone 7.
I recently started using Pandora, but I can’t figure out how to balance 
voiceover with the music. The music is always louder and I can’t hear what my 
choices are on the screen with voiceover. How do I accomplish this? Thanks for 
any help.
Eve


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Re: how do I use ?Eyenote money app?

[Christopher Chaltain]

It's been a while since I've used this app, but while you're waiting for 
someone else to chime in, launch the app and then just point your camera 
at your bill. I think that's all there is to it.



On 1/8/20 4:17 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Hi to all.  I got the Eyenote app like Richard suggested.  I took out
some money I know is a five after I downloaded and installed the app
on my phone.  When I open the app, it just says Eyenote and nothing
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how do I use ?Eyenote money app?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I got the Eyenote app like Richard suggested.  I took out
some money I know is a five after I downloaded and installed the app
on my phone.  When I open the app, it just says Eyenote and nothing
else.  What am I doing wrong?

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Re: What is the best bill reader?

[PRAMIT BHARGAVA]

BlindDroid Wallet is the one that I use and it is free.

Pramit

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 5:22 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Before I answer this, you realize you are hitting reply to one thread, and
> just changing the subject line, which means this and any other message will
> appear under the thread about Seeing AI, and having more than one mail
> account?
> When starting a new topic, please compose a new message.
> I for US currency, I prefer EyeNote to Seeing AI'S currency channel.
> Note the spelling is e y e n o t e' with no spaces.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>
> Unfortunately Nante money reader is still AWOL.  what is the next best
> currency reader for the iPhone?
>
> Thanks,
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How do I change the volume for voiceover while lowering it for Pandora?

['EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone]

Hello. I hope I’m writing this message in the message body and not in the 
subject line like I did for my last few messages. I’m just getting the hang of 
using email on my iPhone 7.
I recently started using Pandora, but I can’t figure out how to balance 
voiceover with the music. The music is always louder and I can’t hear what my 
choices are on the screen with voiceover. How do I accomplish this? Thanks for 
any help.   
Eve


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Re: Changing My Email Address for the viPhone Group

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

We seem to be on emails lately, so if you have another address, send a 
subscription email from that, then once confirmed, send an 
unsubscribe message from current address.

That's how I do such things.

RobH, managing to answer questions at last.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 
To: "VIPhone" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 1:50 AM
Subject: Changing My Email Address for the viPhone Group


Hi All,

What is the best way to change my email address for this group?  I don't
have a place to go to do it myself, so would y'all please tell me the best
way to do this?  All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.

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Re: Two email addresses on the same iPhone?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Settings/mail-something and whatnot accounts;  I have 4 or more of different 
services  and check them all.

RobH.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 10:24 PM
Subject: Two email addresses on the same iPhone?


I activated my student's gmail account on her iPhone.  she has
another account that she would also like to use on her phone.  Can
she do this?  I couldn't get back to the page to add a second
account.  Am I missing something?

thanks,
Ann

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