Re: swiping up to go to home

[Shirley Healy]

thanks, but I just couldnt do it properly, so I changed the vo gesture to a two 
finger swipe left. and that works for me.
it gets me to the home screen and I am ok with having changed the gesture.
shirley
  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:22 AM
  Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home


  Shirley,

   

  Slide up till the vibration first happens and that is the home button 
equivalent 

   

   

  Slide up until the second vibration is the app switcher,

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Shirley Healy
  Sent: Thursday, 14 May 2020 6:31 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: swiping up to go to home

   

  thanks. its going to take me a lot of practice. I tried it but I am not good 
at it. I got to the app switcher one time, but that was it.

  I'll keep practicing.

  shirley

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:12 PM

Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home

 

1 finger,

Start on the bottom edge just off the screen surface and slide smoothly and 
not too fast up until you hear a second tone, there should also be a haptic 
vibration.

Lift your finger and that takes you to the home screen.

The same gesture, but at the third sound or second vibration will take you 
to the app switcher.

 

It takes some practice, and if you start hearing the usual screen clicks 
you get with VoiceOver, you aren’t starting at the right place.  It has to be a 
smooth slide.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Shirley Healy
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:04 AM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: swiping up to go to home

 

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can 
someone guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not really 
good at swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything manually and I 
didnt swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of the screen 
upwards, until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use to swipe, and 
how fast do I swipe the screen?

shirley

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RE: swiping up to go to home

[Simon A Fogarty]

Shirley,

Slide up till the vibration first happens and that is the home button equivalent


Slide up until the second vibration is the app switcher,


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Healy
Sent: Thursday, 14 May 2020 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: swiping up to go to home

thanks. its going to take me a lot of practice. I tried it but I am not good at 
it. I got to the app switcher one time, but that was it.
I'll keep practicing.
shirley
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:12 PM
Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home

1 finger,
Start on the bottom edge just off the screen surface and slide smoothly and not 
too fast up until you hear a second tone, there should also be a haptic 
vibration.
Lift your finger and that takes you to the home screen.
The same gesture, but at the third sound or second vibration will take you to 
the app switcher.

It takes some practice, and if you start hearing the usual screen clicks you 
get with VoiceOver, you aren’t starting at the right place.  It has to be a 
smooth slide.

HTH,



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Shirley Healy
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:04 AM
To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: swiping up to go to home

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can someone 
guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not really good at 
swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything manually and I didnt 
swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards, 
until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use to swipe, and how fast 
do I swipe the screen?
shirley
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Re: from BlindSquare: COVID-19 Keeping us indoors, with unique opportunities supported by BlindSquare and NaviLens.

[Richard Turner]

Hi Eric,
Blind Square Events is something they did for events like the NFB/ACB 
conventions, amongst others so that event goers could access the bluetooth 
beacons etc.
Otherwise it is a demo app if not at an event.
So, through November, they have basically made 9 countries event spaces so 
anyone can use it for free, and yes, it is the same as Blind Square for all 
intents and purposes.
So anyone with a paid version of Blind Square doesn't need to download it.
NaviLens is still a separate app, but I think they just decided to make a joint 
announcement, but someone from Blind Square would need to comment on that if 
that isn't accurate.
But, I'm amazed by NaviLens.
I had not heard of it before.


Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On May 13, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:

 Hi Richard,

Is Blind Squaire Event basically the same app as Blind Square just free until 
November?  A trial for those that don’t have the app?

I was wondering if it was different as I have not mastered using it for 
following routes for exploration or for hiking purposes.

Also wondering if it is integrating Navilens or they are still separate apps.

Eric Caron


On May 13, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

COVID-19 Keeping us indoors, with unique opportunities supported by BlindSquare 
and NaviLens.
by Caleigh 
Nevin



May 21st is Global Accessibility Awareness Day, focusing on digital access and 
inclusion for the more than one billion people with disabilities.

Across our globe, the impact of the pandemic is found. Some impacts are led by 
common sense (avoid exposures, battle all exposures with “be clean” responses), 
and some by country/local laws restricting travel entirely or by degree.

BlindSquare
 and 
NaviLens
 join to serve on the frontline.

Being stuck indoors.

Has the pandemic created a greater impact for persons who are blind, deafblind, 
or partially sighted?  Absolutely. These persons now have a heightened need to 
“be aware” of current locations and planned destinations. They need to know 
where they are and limit their exposures.

A new opportunity to experience your environment.

BlindSquare
 and 
NaviLens,
 leaders in improving the lives for those who are blind/deafblind or partially 
sighted, bring you an opportunity to discover abilities and equip yourself in 
anticipation of a return to a new normal, and to provide you greater 
independence, comfort, and location awareness with immediate and long term 
rewards.

BlindSquare is the world’s most widely used accessible GPS iOS app developed 
for persons who are blind, deafblind or partially sighted. With the help of 
third-party navigation apps, BlindSquare’s self-voicing app delivers detailed 
points of interest and intersections for safe, reliable travel. Paired with 
NaviLens, the app that scans proprietary codes to deliver situational 
information instantly, this duo offers an unmatched experience for users to 
navigate independently and more importantly in today’s environment, safely.

While our products have been helpful for our current users, we pondered, why it 
can’t be great for all during this stress-filled time? We looked for a way to 
solve this, without cost.

BlindSquare’s reputation, across its 8 years of service, is replete with 
personal success stories such as those that extoll the value of travel 
information for making informed choices and the ability to “simulate” future 
destinations for adventure.  When using s

Re: from BlindSquare: COVID-19 Keeping us indoors, with unique opportunities supported by BlindSquare and NaviLens.

[Eric Caron]

Hi Richard,

Is Blind Squaire Event basically the same app as Blind Square just free 
until November?  A trial for those that don’t have the app? 

I was wondering if it was different as I have not mastered using it for 
following routes for exploration or for hiking purposes.

Also wondering if it is integrating Navilens or they are still separate apps.

Eric Caron 


> On May 13, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> COVID-19 Keeping us indoors, with unique opportunities supported by 
> BlindSquare and NaviLens.
> by Caleigh Nevin 
> 
> 
> 
> May 21st is Global Accessibility Awareness Day, focusing on digital access 
> and inclusion for the more than one billion people with disabilities. 
> 
> Across our globe, the impact of the pandemic is found. Some impacts are led 
> by common sense (avoid exposures, battle all exposures with “be clean” 
> responses), and some by country/local laws restricting travel entirely or by 
> degree.
> 
> BlindSquare 
> 
>  and NaviLens 
> 
>  join to serve on the frontline.
> 
> Being stuck indoors.
> Has the pandemic created a greater impact for persons who are blind, 
> deafblind, or partially sighted?  Absolutely. These persons now have a 
> heightened need to “be aware” of current locations and planned destinations. 
> They need to know where they are and limit their exposures.
> 
> A new opportunity to experience your environment. 
> BlindSquare 
> 
>  and NaviLens 
> ,
>  leaders in improving the lives for those who are blind/deafblind or 
> partially sighted, bring you an opportunity to discover abilities and equip 
> yourself in anticipation of a return to a new normal, and to provide you 
> greater independence, comfort, and location awareness with immediate and long 
> term rewards.
> 
> BlindSquare is the world’s most widely used accessible GPS iOS app developed 
> for persons who are blind, deafblind or partially sighted. With the help of 
> third-party navigation apps, BlindSquare’s self-voicing app delivers detailed 
> points of interest and intersections for safe, reliable travel. Paired with 
> NaviLens, the app that scans proprietary codes to deliver situational 
> information instantly, this duo offers an unmatched experience for users to 
> navigate independently and more importantly in today’s environment, safely.
> 
> While our products have been helpful for our current users, we pondered, why 
> it can’t be great for all during this stress-filled time? We looked for a way 
> to solve this, without cost.
> 
> BlindSquare’s reputation, across its 8 years of service, is replete with 
> personal success stories such as those that extoll the value of travel 
> information for making informed choices and the ability to “simulate” future 
> destinations for adventure.  When using simulation, BlindSquare behaves just 
> as if you’re there! And with NaviLens 
> 
>  on board  your device, you have access to their award-winning technology to 
> create personal tags that can be used to “label your world” for such things 
> as cupboard content, prescription bottles, fridge contents (including best 
> before dates!), contents of your bar, contents of your freezer, and more. 
> NaviLens 
> 

Re: swiping up to go to home

[Shirley Healy]

changing the gesture worked like a dream!
I now have it so that a 2 finger swipe left brings me to the home button. 
And I'm good with that.

shirley
- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:05 PM
Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home


Pretty smart, Scott.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of blindfait...@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home

If anyone is really having difficulty with the default gesture to go home or 
to bring up the app switcher remember that you can change the gesture in the 
Voice Over settings. Just double tap on Commands and then look for the 
gesture that you want to use. I use a 2 finger swipe right for the Home 
button and a 2 finger swipe left for the app switcher.


Scott

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Shirley Healy

Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: swiping up to go to home

I might have to try the assistive touch method, I am having a lot of 
problems with the swiping, I am not used ot it, I know it takes practice and 
I will practice it over the next little while. But setting up the assistive 
touch might be the way to go.

shirley
- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home


Shirley, you just use one finger to swipe up. I use my right index finger.
You place it on the bottom of your screen and swipe until you get this kind 
of pop. VOILA, Home Page. If you go for another pop, Ap Switcher.


Coming down from the top, place finger at the top of the screen; first pop 
is Control Center; second one is Notifications.


On another list, a savvy user posted the way to do with the new phones. I 
read her post over and over, did not try to learn it, just read it over and 
over for absorbtion. When I got my new phone, my husband was astounded. I 
never had a second's worth of a problem.


Someone, I think on this list, said that you could go to Settings to 
Assistive Touch, activate it, and it would make the phone work like it had a 
button at the bottom. I can see how that could work for Home Page and Ap 
Switcher, but, you'd just have to use the old way, as you can anyway, even 
without Assistive Touch to get to Control Center or Notifications.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Shirley Healy

Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:04 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: swiping up to go to home

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can 
someone guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not 
really good at swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything 
manually and I didnt swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of 
the screen upwards, until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use 
to swipe, and how fast do I swipe the screen?

shirley

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RE: New SE 2

[Alan Lemly]

Vivian,

I just reposted it with the original subject of Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 
step by step.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vivian Conger
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New SE 2

Alan,

I am not Holly but would appreciate you resending that message.

Many thanks.

Vivian and Sallie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New SE 2

Holly,

Let me know if you can't find it and if you're interested, I can repost.

Alan

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Holly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New SE 2

Alan:

Thanks.  I will check the archives

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Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

[Alan Lemly]

I am reposting the below at the request of Vivian.

 

Alan

 

Hi List,

 

I decided to make detailed notes of the steps involved in setting up a new
iPhone mainly for my own benefit since I forget what is involved as I only
do this every couple of years. In my case, I bought this SE 2020 directly
from the Apple Store app with no SIM card included since I have a prepaid
Verizon plan and could not specify my carrier successfully when ordering.
The below numbered list will be very detailed since I'd rather have too much
information than not enough. Any settings provided came from my iPhone 8
running iOS 13.4.1.

 

   1.Opened iTunes on my Windows 7 computer, verified I was running
its latest version of 12.10.6, connected my iPhone 8 using the lightning
cable, and did an encrypted backup.

   2.Did an iCloud backup by going to Settings - Alan Lemly - Apple
ID - iCloud - iTunes and App Store, iCloud, iCloud backup, and executing
Backup now.

   3.I read a lot of books using the BARD Mobile app and since any
books downloaded to an iPhone are not transferred to a new restored iPhone,
I made a list in an Excel file of the downloaded books I wanted to
re-download to my new iPhone and the location of any current reading
position in those books.

   4.I plugged my lightning cable connected to my computer to the
new phone and the Apple logo appeared on the screen. The white screen
appeared a few seconds later with the cycling languages appearing and I
pressed the home button 3 times quickly to turn on Voiceover. Although I was
hearing clicks as I swiped, Voiceover did not start talking until a number
of seconds later. In fact, I pressed the home button 3 times again because I
wasn't sure I had turned Voiceover on. This turned Voiceover off and I had
to press the home button 3 times again to turn it back on and I heard
Voiceover say hello and when I swiped once, Voiceover said press home to
open.

   5.I pressed home and Voiceover said Setup and put me in a list of
language buttons with English at the top. I double tapped on English.

   6.The screen which opened said Select your country or region
heading. I double tapped on the United States button which was the first in
the list.

   7.The screen which opened said Quick start heading Bring your
current iPhone or iPad near this iPhone to sign in and set up. The older
iPhone must be using iOS 11 or later with Bluetooth turned on. There was a
button at the end to Set up manually.

   8.A screen opened on my old iPhone to set up a new iPhone using
my apple ID with a button to continue. A screen appeared to position some
pattern in a circle but I double tapped the Authenticate manually button
instead.

   9.I was prompted to input the 6 digit authentication code
displayed on my new iPhone using the number pad screen on my old iPhone. My
new iPhone then prompted me to enter my passcode of my old iPhone. I had to
double tap each number on the on screen number pad on my new iPhone since
touch typing was not turned on.

10.I was prompted to set up touch ID on the new iPhone which I did.

11.Several screens were presented asking me to place my finger and
lift my finger which I did. I was then taken to a screen which said Adjust
your grip and it said keep going to capture the edges of your grip. I double
tapped a Continue button at the bottom of this screen.

12.I was then prompted to again place and lift my finger until I got
the Complete message. Touch ID is ready was spoken and I then executed the
Continue button at the bottom of that screen.

13.The next screen said Transfer your data heading. The explanation
said you can directly transfer your data during setup or finish downloading
it later. Buttons on this screen were Transfer from iPhone, Download from
iCloud, or other options. The Transfer from iPhone said the time to transfer
was about 1 hour. The download from iCloud said I could start using my
iPhone in about 15 minutes and my data would download later over wifi. I
executed the Transfer from iPhone button.

14.I was taken to a Terms and conditions screen on the new iPhone
where I double tapped an Agree button in the bottom right corner.

15.I was taken to a Settings from other iPhone heading screen where
it listed some settings about allowing Siri to use voice input, contacts,
etc. and allowing maps to use my location. I executed the Continue button at
the bottom of this screen without customizing any settings.

16.I was taken to a Keep your iPhone up to date heading screen which
was basically a commercial for updating iOS automatically. At the bottom of
this screen was a Continue button followed by an Install updates manually
button. I chose the Install updates manually button.

17.I was then taken to a screen to Add cards to Apple Pay. Instead
of executing the Continue button, I chose to Set up later in Wallet which
was a butt

Fwd: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

[Richard Turner]

Here's Alan's helpful message for those who cannot find it.
forwarded message:

From: Alan Lemly 
Date: April 30, 2020 at 5:02:14 PM PDT
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step
Reply-To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Hi List,

I decided to make detailed notes of the steps involved in setting up a new 
iPhone mainly for my own benefit since I forget what is involved as I only do 
this every couple of years. In my case, I bought this SE 2020 directly from the 
Apple Store app with no SIM card included since I have a prepaid Verizon plan 
and could not specify my carrier successfully when ordering. The below numbered 
list will be very detailed since I'd rather have too much information than not 
enough. Any settings provided came from my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4.1.


   1.Opened iTunes on my Windows 7 computer, verified I was running its 
latest version of 12.10.6, connected my iPhone 8 using the lightning cable, and 
did an encrypted backup.

   2.Did an iCloud backup by going to Settings - Alan Lemly - Apple ID 
- iCloud - iTunes and App Store, iCloud, iCloud backup, and executing Backup 
now.

   3.I read a lot of books using the BARD Mobile app and since any 
books downloaded to an iPhone are not transferred to a new restored iPhone, I 
made a list in an Excel file of the downloaded books I wanted to re-download to 
my new iPhone and the location of any current reading position in those books.

   4.I plugged my lightning cable connected to my computer to the new 
phone and the Apple logo appeared on the screen. The white screen appeared a 
few seconds later with the cycling languages appearing and I pressed the home 
button 3 times quickly to turn on Voiceover. Although I was hearing clicks as I 
swiped, Voiceover did not start talking until a number of seconds later. In 
fact, I pressed the home button 3 times again because I wasn't sure I had 
turned Voiceover on. This turned Voiceover off and I had to press the home 
button 3 times again to turn it back on and I heard Voiceover say hello and 
when I swiped once, Voiceover said press home to open.

   5.I pressed home and Voiceover said Setup and put me in a list of 
language buttons with English at the top. I double tapped on English.

   6.The screen which opened said Select your country or region 
heading. I double tapped on the United States button which was the first in the 
list.

   7.The screen which opened said Quick start heading Bring your 
current iPhone or iPad near this iPhone to sign in and set up. The older iPhone 
must be using iOS 11 or later with Bluetooth turned on. There was a button at 
the end to Set up manually.

   8.A screen opened on my old iPhone to set up a new iPhone using my 
apple ID with a button to continue. A screen appeared to position some pattern 
in a circle but I double tapped the Authenticate manually button instead.

   9.I was prompted to input the 6 digit authentication code displayed 
on my new iPhone using the number pad screen on my old iPhone. My new iPhone 
then prompted me to enter my passcode of my old iPhone. I had to double tap 
each number on the on screen number pad on my new iPhone since touch typing was 
not turned on.

10.I was prompted to set up touch ID on the new iPhone which I did.

11.Several screens were presented asking me to place my finger and lift 
my finger which I did. I was then taken to a screen which said Adjust your grip 
and it said keep going to capture the edges of your grip. I double tapped a 
Continue button at the bottom of this screen.

12.I was then prompted to again place and lift my finger until I got 
the Complete message. Touch ID is ready was spoken and I then executed the 
Continue button at the bottom of that screen.

13.The next screen said Transfer your data heading. The explanation 
said you can directly transfer your data during setup or finish downloading it 
later. Buttons on this screen were Transfer from iPhone, Download from iCloud, 
or other options. The Transfer from iPhone said the time to transfer was about 
1 hour. The download from iCloud said I could start using my iPhone in about 15 
minutes and my data would download later over wifi. I executed the Transfer 
from iPhone button.

14.I was taken to a Terms and conditions screen on the new iPhone where 
I double tapped an Agree button in the bottom right corner.

15.I was taken to a Settings from other iPhone heading screen where it 
listed some settings about allowing Siri to use voice input, contacts, etc. and 
allowing maps to use my location. I executed the Continue button at the bottom 
of this screen without customizing any settings.

16.I was taken to a Keep your iPhone up to date heading screen which 
was basically a commercial for updating iOS automatically. At the bottom of 
this screen was a Continue button followed by an Inst

RE: New SE 2

[Carla]

I too would like to see that messagain as I am thinking about getting this 
phone.

Carla

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vivian 
Conger
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New SE 2

Alan,

I am not Holly but would appreciate you resending that message.

Many thanks.

Vivian and Sallie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New SE 2

Holly,

Let me know if you can't find it and if you're interested, I can repost.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Holly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New SE 2

Alan:

Thanks.  I will check the archives

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RE: New SE 2

[Vivian Conger]

Alan,

I am not Holly but would appreciate you resending that message.

Many thanks.

Vivian and Sallie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New SE 2

Holly,

Let me know if you can't find it and if you're interested, I can repost.

Alan

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Subject: Re: New SE 2

Alan:

Thanks.  I will check the archives

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Re: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

['cwc' via VIPhone]

I find the updated AP easier for the removal of finished books. It took a 
couple of tries but I was able to get it. 
You might  be careful with the choices at the top of the library. It took 
me some time to get back to the recent books first. After a couple of tries 
I found it useful. On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 8:45:10 AM UTC-4, Joy Cyr 
wrote:
>
>
> *Good morning,*
> *Could someone please explain how one deletes books in the app?  I see the 
> delete button there (dimmed) so I know it is possible and that 'I'm missing 
> something.  *
>
> *Looking forward to having the mystery solved.*
> *Thank you very much for any and all help.*
>
>
> *Joy*
> *"Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. ... 
> Life is either a daring adventure or nothing."*
> *-- Helen Keller*
>
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Re: swiping up to go to home

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I'll stick with iPhones that have the home button for as long as I
can.  When my iPhone 8 finally dies completely, then I'll switch to
the SE20.

On 5/13/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Pretty smart, Scott.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of blindfait...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 5:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home
>
> If anyone is really having difficulty with the default gesture to go home or
> to bring up the app switcher remember that you can change the gesture in the
> Voice Over settings. Just double tap on Commands and then look for the
> gesture that you want to use. I use a 2 finger swipe right for the Home
> button and a 2 finger swipe left for the app switcher.
>
> Scott
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Shirley Healy
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: swiping up to go to home
>
> I might have to try the assistive touch method, I am having a lot of
> problems with the swiping, I am not used ot it, I know it takes practice and
> I will practice it over the next little while. But setting up the assistive
> touch might be the way to go.
> shirley
> - Original Message -
> From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:29 PM
> Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home
>
>
> Shirley, you just use one finger to swipe up. I use my right index finger.
> You place it on the bottom of your screen and swipe until you get this kind
> of pop. VOILA, Home Page. If you go for another pop, Ap Switcher.
>
> Coming down from the top, place finger at the top of the screen; first pop
> is Control Center; second one is Notifications.
>
> On another list, a savvy user posted the way to do with the new phones. I
> read her post over and over, did not try to learn it, just read it over and
> over for absorbtion. When I got my new phone, my husband was astounded. I
> never had a second's worth of a problem.
>
> Someone, I think on this list, said that you could go to Settings to
> Assistive Touch, activate it, and it would make the phone work like it had a
> button at the bottom. I can see how that could work for Home Page and Ap
> Switcher, but, you'd just have to use the old way, as you can anyway, even
> without Assistive Touch to get to Control Center or Notifications.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:04 PM
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> Subject: swiping up to go to home
>
> I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can
> someone guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not
> really good at swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything
> manually and I didnt swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of
> the screen upwards, until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use
> to swipe, and how fast do I swipe the screen?
> shirley
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Re: Question About Blocking a Contact?

[Shirley Baker]

Well, Carolyn, I had a reason for wanting to know how to block a contact.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> I finally found block but I had to go to phone, then go to the contacts tab. 
> I had been trying to do this by just going to the contacts list. and not 
> going into phone first.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
>> 
>> I get add to favorites, share my location, add to emergency bypass, iPhone, 
>> notes but I do not see anything about block anywhere.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 13, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just go into the contacts name, and hit the block button, and when you 
>>> want to unblock them again you can go back into their name and back into 
>>> block and unblock them again.
>>> shirley
>>> - Original Message - From: "Shirley Baker" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:32 PM
>>> Subject: Question About Blocking a Contact?
>>> 
>>> 
 Is there a way to temporarily block a contact? I know how to block 
 unwanted calls but I can't seem to make it work on a contact.
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Re: is updating from iOS 13.3.1 to iOS 13.4.1 recommended and safe?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Make sure you guys update; security mainly, and each update tends to better 
some bugs, though we’ve seen lately that some just don’t seem to be squashed! 
Nevertheless I always update for security mainly. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 13 may 2020, a la(s) 6:00 p.m., Corey Cook  
> escribió:
> 
> Yes
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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>> hi,
>> I am still on iOS 13.3.1.
>> Is it recommended and safe to update to iOS 13.4.1?
>> Thanks for any thoughts. Keith
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Re: is updating from iOS 13.3.1 to iOS 13.4.1 recommended and safe?

[Corey Cook]

Yes


Sent from my iPhone

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> hi,
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> Is it recommended and safe to update to iOS 13.4.1?
> Thanks for any thoughts. Keith
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Re: New SE 2

[Gerardo Corripio]

Firstly congrats on your new SE! I sure wish with all my soul I’d get one of 
those, but I’m going to have to resign myself to an iPHone7 because of 
economics. Keep us posted how you’ll enjoy the new toy!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 13 may 2020, a la(s) 3:45 p.m., Alan Lemly  escribió:
> 
> Holly,
> 
> I hope you enjoy your SE 2020. I'm very much enjoying mine and I posted a 
> message here on 4/30/20 with the subject Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step 
> by step where I listed all the screens I came across when setting up my new 
> SE.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Holly
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New SE 2
> 
> I just ordered my new SE 2 from Apple.
> 
> If you have a new SE, let me know how you like it and if there are any tips 
> in setting it up.
> 
> Holly 
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Re: New SE 2

[Holly]

Alan:

Took some digging, but finally figured out how to find it and I copied it to 
a word document, so I will have it when the time comes.


I don't have iTunes, but I do have iCloud on my Win 10 computer.

Thanks for the help.

Holly 


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is updating from iOS 13.3.1 to iOS 13.4.1 recommended and safe?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,
I am still on iOS 13.3.1.
Is it recommended and safe to update to iOS 13.4.1?
Thanks for any thoughts. Keith

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RE: New SE 2

[Alan Lemly]

Holly,

Let me know if you can't find it and if you're interested, I can repost.

Alan

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Alan:

Thanks.  I will check the archives

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Re: New SE 2

[Kolby Garrison]

Hello, Kimberly,
Does the new SE have a physical home button or is the home button a divit that 
you touch but do not actually have to press?
Thank you,
Kolby

> On May 13, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> 
> Hi Kimberly,
> What phone did you have prior to this new SE? And how are you finding the 
> battery on your new phone? Are you a heavy phone user, and does your battery 
> last the whole day?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 13, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Kimberly  wrote:
>>> 
>> I’ve had my new SE for a couple of weeks now and I am totally loving it! 
>> The set up was super easy and I had no issues at all. Congratulations on 
>> your new phone!
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
>> go on.—Annie Proulx
>> 
 On May 13, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Holly  wrote:
 
>>> Alan:
>>> 
>>> Thanks.  I will check the archives
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RE: Question About Blocking a Contact?

[Carolyn]

I guess there is block in the contact choices. That's good. Like I say, I'm not 
likely to block a contact, just delete it. 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 5:54 PM
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I figured this out. I was originally going into the contacts icon instead of 
going to phone and then to contacts and that is where I found block contact but 
you do not double tap on edit because that doesn't work.I 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 3:39 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
> 
> the way I do it is, go into phone and then contacts, and on the name of the 
> person you cant, double tap and go into the contact, and in there down at the 
> bottom of the screen is a block button, you tap into it and block them that 
> way, and if you want to unblock them go back in to their name and hit unblock.
> shirley
> - Original Message - From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:34 PM
> Subject: RE: Question About Blocking a Contact?
> 
> 
> Shirley, have you double-tapped on Edit, then flicked to Block? Then press 
> Done when through. I haven't blocked any contact, only recent callers, but I 
> guess you could block a contact in recent calls the same way you would an 
> unknown number. I forget how to do it there, just sort of flick around until 
> I find it there.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> I tried this several times and there is no block. I even took the contact out 
> and put it back in and still no block.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
>> 
>> Just go into the contacts name, and hit the block button, and when you want 
>> to unblock them again you can go back into their name and back into block 
>> and unblock them again.
>> shirley
>> - Original Message - From: "Shirley Baker" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:32 PM
>> Subject: Question About Blocking a Contact?
>> 
>> 
>>> Is there a way to temporarily block a contact? I know how to block unwanted 
>>> calls but I can't seem to make it work on a contact.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: swiping up to go to home

[Carolyn]

Pretty smart, Scott. 

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blindfait...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 5:42 PM
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Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home

If anyone is really having difficulty with the default gesture to go home or to 
bring up the app switcher remember that you can change the gesture in the Voice 
Over settings. Just double tap on Commands and then look for the gesture that 
you want to use. I use a 2 finger swipe right for the Home button and a 2 
finger swipe left for the app switcher.

Scott

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Healy
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: swiping up to go to home

I might have to try the assistive touch method, I am having a lot of problems 
with the swiping, I am not used ot it, I know it takes practice and I will 
practice it over the next little while. But setting up the assistive touch 
might be the way to go.
shirley
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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home


Shirley, you just use one finger to swipe up. I use my right index finger. 
You place it on the bottom of your screen and swipe until you get this kind of 
pop. VOILA, Home Page. If you go for another pop, Ap Switcher.

Coming down from the top, place finger at the top of the screen; first pop is 
Control Center; second one is Notifications.

On another list, a savvy user posted the way to do with the new phones. I read 
her post over and over, did not try to learn it, just read it over and over for 
absorbtion. When I got my new phone, my husband was astounded. I never had a 
second's worth of a problem.

Someone, I think on this list, said that you could go to Settings to Assistive 
Touch, activate it, and it would make the phone work like it had a button at 
the bottom. I can see how that could work for Home Page and Ap Switcher, but, 
you'd just have to use the old way, as you can anyway, even without Assistive 
Touch to get to Control Center or Notifications.

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Shirley Healy
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:04 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: swiping up to go to home

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can someone 
guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not really good at 
swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything manually and I didnt 
swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards, 
until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use to swipe, and how fast 
do I swipe the screen?
shirley

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RE: swiping up to go to home

[Carolyn]

If that works for you, go for it. 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:42 PM
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Subject: Re: swiping up to go to home

I might have to try the assistive touch method, I am having a lot of problems 
with the swiping, I am not used ot it, I know it takes practice and I will 
practice it over the next little while. But setting up the assistive touch 
might be the way to go.
shirley
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home


Shirley, you just use one finger to swipe up. I use my right index finger. 
You place it on the bottom of your screen and swipe until you get this kind of 
pop. VOILA, Home Page. If you go for another pop, Ap Switcher.

Coming down from the top, place finger at the top of the screen; first pop is 
Control Center; second one is Notifications.

On another list, a savvy user posted the way to do with the new phones. I read 
her post over and over, did not try to learn it, just read it over and over for 
absorbtion. When I got my new phone, my husband was astounded. I never had a 
second's worth of a problem.

Someone, I think on this list, said that you could go to Settings to Assistive 
Touch, activate it, and it would make the phone work like it had a button at 
the bottom. I can see how that could work for Home Page and Ap Switcher, but, 
you'd just have to use the old way, as you can anyway, even without Assistive 
Touch to get to Control Center or Notifications.

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Shirley Healy
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:04 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: swiping up to go to home

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can someone 
guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not really good at 
swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything manually and I didnt 
swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards, 
until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use to swipe, and how fast 
do I swipe the screen?
shirley

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RE: Question About Blocking a Contact?

[Carolyn]

Right; that is how I do it in a contact, if I were going to block a contact. I 
would be more likely to just delete a contact. 

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the way I do it is, go into phone and then contacts, and on the name of the 
person you cant, double tap and go into the contact, and in there down at the 
bottom of the screen is a block button, you tap into it and block them that 
way, and if you want to unblock them go back in to their name and hit unblock.
shirley
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Subject: RE: Question About Blocking a Contact?


Shirley, have you double-tapped on Edit, then flicked to Block? Then press Done 
when through. I haven't blocked any contact, only recent callers, but I guess 
you could block a contact in recent calls the same way you would an unknown 
number. I forget how to do it there, just sort of flick around until I find it 
there.

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I tried this several times and there is no block. I even took the contact out 
and put it back in and still no block.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
>
> Just go into the contacts name, and hit the block button, and when 
> you want to unblock them again you can go back into their name and 
> back into block and unblock them again.
> shirley
> - Original Message - From: "Shirley Baker" 
> 
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:32 PM
> Subject: Question About Blocking a Contact?
>
>
>> Is there a way to temporarily block a contact? I know how to block 
>> unwanted calls but I can't seem to make it work on a contact.
>>
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Re: Question About Blocking a Contact?

[Shirley Baker]

I figured this out. I was originally going into the contacts icon instead of 
going to phone and then to contacts and that is where I found block contact but 
you do not double tap on edit because that doesn't work.I 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 3:39 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
> 
> the way I do it is, go into phone and then contacts, and on the name of the 
> person you cant, double tap and go into the contact, and in there down at the 
> bottom of the screen is a block button, you tap into it and block them that 
> way, and if you want to unblock them go back in to their name and hit unblock.
> shirley
> - Original Message - From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:34 PM
> Subject: RE: Question About Blocking a Contact?
> 
> 
> Shirley, have you double-tapped on Edit, then flicked to Block? Then press 
> Done when through. I haven't blocked any contact, only recent callers, but I 
> guess you could block a contact in recent calls the same way you would an 
> unknown number. I forget how to do it there, just sort of flick around until 
> I find it there.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question About Blocking a Contact?
> 
> I tried this several times and there is no block. I even took the contact out 
> and put it back in and still no block.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
>> 
>> Just go into the contacts name, and hit the block button, and when you want 
>> to unblock them again you can go back into their name and back into block 
>> and unblock them again.
>> shirley
>> - Original Message - From: "Shirley Baker" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:32 PM
>> Subject: Question About Blocking a Contact?
>> 
>> 
>>> Is there a way to temporarily block a contact? I know how to block unwanted 
>>> calls but I can't seem to make it work on a contact.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: swiping up to go to home

[Shirley Healy]

Awesome! Thanks scott! Will try this and use the same as your using.
shirley
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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:42 PM
Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home


If anyone is really having difficulty with the default gesture to go home or 
to bring up the app switcher remember that you can change the gesture in the 
Voice Over settings. Just double tap on Commands and then look for the 
gesture that you want to use. I use a 2 finger swipe right for the Home 
button and a 2 finger swipe left for the app switcher.


Scott

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Shirley Healy

Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: swiping up to go to home

I might have to try the assistive touch method, I am having a lot of 
problems with the swiping, I am not used ot it, I know it takes practice and 
I will practice it over the next little while. But setting up the assistive 
touch might be the way to go.

shirley
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From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home


Shirley, you just use one finger to swipe up. I use my right index finger.
You place it on the bottom of your screen and swipe until you get this kind 
of pop. VOILA, Home Page. If you go for another pop, Ap Switcher.


Coming down from the top, place finger at the top of the screen; first pop 
is Control Center; second one is Notifications.


On another list, a savvy user posted the way to do with the new phones. I 
read her post over and over, did not try to learn it, just read it over and 
over for absorbtion. When I got my new phone, my husband was astounded. I 
never had a second's worth of a problem.


Someone, I think on this list, said that you could go to Settings to 
Assistive Touch, activate it, and it would make the phone work like it had a 
button at the bottom. I can see how that could work for Home Page and Ap 
Switcher, but, you'd just have to use the old way, as you can anyway, even 
without Assistive Touch to get to Control Center or Notifications.


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Of Shirley Healy

Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:04 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: swiping up to go to home

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can 
someone guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not 
really good at swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything 
manually and I didnt swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of 
the screen upwards, until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use 
to swipe, and how fast do I swipe the screen?

shirley

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RE: swiping up to go to home

[blindfaith38]

If anyone is really having difficulty with the default gesture to go home or to 
bring up the app switcher remember that you can change the gesture in the Voice 
Over settings. Just double tap on Commands and then look for the gesture that 
you want to use. I use a 2 finger swipe right for the Home button and a 2 
finger swipe left for the app switcher.

Scott

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Healy
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: swiping up to go to home

I might have to try the assistive touch method, I am having a lot of problems 
with the swiping, I am not used ot it, I know it takes practice and I will 
practice it over the next little while. But setting up the assistive touch 
might be the way to go.
shirley
- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home


Shirley, you just use one finger to swipe up. I use my right index finger. 
You place it on the bottom of your screen and swipe until you get this kind of 
pop. VOILA, Home Page. If you go for another pop, Ap Switcher.

Coming down from the top, place finger at the top of the screen; first pop is 
Control Center; second one is Notifications.

On another list, a savvy user posted the way to do with the new phones. I read 
her post over and over, did not try to learn it, just read it over and over for 
absorbtion. When I got my new phone, my husband was astounded. I never had a 
second's worth of a problem.

Someone, I think on this list, said that you could go to Settings to Assistive 
Touch, activate it, and it would make the phone work like it had a button at 
the bottom. I can see how that could work for Home Page and Ap Switcher, but, 
you'd just have to use the old way, as you can anyway, even without Assistive 
Touch to get to Control Center or Notifications.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shirley Healy
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:04 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: swiping up to go to home

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can someone 
guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not really good at 
swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything manually and I didnt 
swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards, 
until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use to swipe, and how fast 
do I swipe the screen?
shirley

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Re: New SE 2

[Mary Otten]

Hi Kimberly,
What phone did you have prior to this new SE? And how are you finding the 
battery on your new phone? Are you a heavy phone user, and does your battery 
last the whole day?


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
> I’ve had my new SE for a couple of weeks now and I am totally loving it! The 
> set up was super easy and I had no issues at all. Congratulations on your new 
> phone!
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
> go on.—Annie Proulx
> 
>>> On May 13, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Holly  wrote:
>>> 
>> Alan:
>> 
>> Thanks.  I will check the archives
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Re: New SE 2

[Kimberly]

I’ve had my new SE for a couple of weeks now and I am totally loving it! The 
set up was super easy and I had no issues at all. Congratulations on your new 
phone!

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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> Alan:
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Re: New SE 2

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Alan:

Thanks.  I will check the archives

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Re: New SE 2

[Holly]

Lori:

Great, thanks.  I am very excited.

It will be here the end of the month.

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RE: New SE 2

[Alan Lemly]

Holly,

I hope you enjoy your SE 2020. I'm very much enjoying mine and I posted a 
message here on 4/30/20 with the subject Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step 
by step where I listed all the screens I came across when setting up my new SE.

Alan Lemly

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Holly
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I just ordered my new SE 2 from Apple.

If you have a new SE, let me know how you like it and if there are any tips in 
setting it up.

Holly 

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Re: swiping up to go to home

[Shirley Healy]

I might have to try the assistive touch method, I am having a lot of 
problems with the swiping, I am not used ot it, I know it takes practice and 
I will practice it over the next little while. But setting up the assistive 
touch might be the way to go.

shirley
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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:29 PM
Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home


Shirley, you just use one finger to swipe up. I use my right index finger. 
You place it on the bottom of your screen and swipe until you get this kind 
of pop. VOILA, Home Page. If you go for another pop, Ap Switcher.


Coming down from the top, place finger at the top of the screen; first pop 
is Control Center; second one is Notifications.


On another list, a savvy user posted the way to do with the new phones. I 
read her post over and over, did not try to learn it, just read it over and 
over for absorbtion. When I got my new phone, my husband was astounded. I 
never had a second's worth of a problem.


Someone, I think on this list, said that you could go to Settings to 
Assistive Touch, activate it, and it would make the phone work like it had a 
button at the bottom. I can see how that could work for Home Page and Ap 
Switcher, but, you'd just have to use the old way, as you can anyway, even 
without Assistive Touch to get to Control Center or Notifications.


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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:04 PM
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Subject: swiping up to go to home

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can 
someone guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not 
really good at swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything 
manually and I didnt swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of 
the screen upwards, until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use 
to swipe, and how fast do I swipe the screen?

shirley

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RE: New SE 2

[Laury, Shawnese (LEO)]

I already have it and I love it. I had no issues in setting it up. I was able 
to triple click on the home button to immediately have speech for the set up. 
Thanks 

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I just ordered my new SE 2 from Apple.

If you have a new SE, let me know how you like it and if there are any tips in 
setting it up.

Holly

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Re: Question About Blocking a Contact?

[Shirley Healy]

the way I do it is, go into phone and then contacts, and on the name of the 
person you cant, double tap and go into the contact, and in there down at 
the bottom of the screen is a block button, you tap into it and block them 
that way, and if you want to unblock them go back in to their name and hit 
unblock.

shirley
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Subject: RE: Question About Blocking a Contact?


Shirley, have you double-tapped on Edit, then flicked to Block? Then press 
Done when through. I haven't blocked any contact, only recent callers, but I 
guess you could block a contact in recent calls the same way you would an 
unknown number. I forget how to do it there, just sort of flick around until 
I find it there.


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I tried this several times and there is no block. I even took the contact 
out and put it back in and still no block.


Sent from my iPhone


On May 13, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:

Just go into the contacts name, and hit the block button, and when you 
want to unblock them again you can go back into their name and back into 
block and unblock them again.

shirley
- Original Message - From: "Shirley Baker" 


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Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:32 PM
Subject: Question About Blocking a Contact?


Is there a way to temporarily block a contact? I know how to block 
unwanted calls but I can't seem to make it work on a contact.


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Question About Blocking a Contact?

[Carolyn]

Shirley, have you double-tapped on Edit, then flicked to Block? Then press Done 
when through. I haven't blocked any contact, only recent callers, but I guess 
you could block a contact in recent calls the same way you would an unknown 
number. I forget how to do it there, just sort of flick around until I find it 
there. 

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Subject: Re: Question About Blocking a Contact?

I tried this several times and there is no block. I even took the contact out 
and put it back in and still no block.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
> 
> Just go into the contacts name, and hit the block button, and when you want 
> to unblock them again you can go back into their name and back into block and 
> unblock them again.
> shirley
> - Original Message - From: "Shirley Baker" 
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> Subject: Question About Blocking a Contact?
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>> Is there a way to temporarily block a contact? I know how to block unwanted 
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New SE 2

[Holly]

I just ordered my new SE 2 from Apple.

If you have a new SE, let me know how you like it and if there are any tips 
in setting it up.


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RE: swiping up to go to home

[Carolyn]

Oh yes, I forgot about lifting the finger. It just seems so natural now. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home

1 finger,

Start on the bottom edge just off the screen surface and slide smoothly and not 
too fast up until you hear a second tone, there should also be a haptic 
vibration.

Lift your finger and that takes you to the home screen.

The same gesture, but at the third sound or second vibration will take you to 
the app switcher.

 

It takes some practice, and if you start hearing the usual screen clicks you 
get with VoiceOver, you aren’t starting at the right place.  It has to be a 
smooth slide.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Healy
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:04 AM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: swiping up to go to home

 

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can someone 
guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not really good at 
swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything manually and I didnt 
swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards, 
until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use to swipe, and how fast 
do I swipe the screen?

shirley

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RE: swiping up to go to home

[Carolyn]

Shirley, you just use one finger to swipe up. I use my right index finger. You 
place it on the bottom of your screen and swipe until you get this kind of pop. 
VOILA, Home Page. If you go for another pop, Ap Switcher. 

Coming down from the top, place finger at the top of the screen; first pop is 
Control Center; second one is Notifications. 

On another list, a savvy user posted the way to do with the new phones. I read 
her post over and over, did not try to learn it, just read it over and over for 
absorbtion. When I got my new phone, my husband was astounded. I never had a 
second's worth of a problem. 

Someone, I think on this list, said that you could go to Settings to Assistive 
Touch, activate it, and it would make the phone work like it had a button at 
the bottom. I can see how that could work for Home Page and Ap Switcher, but, 
you'd just have to use the old way, as you can anyway, even without Assistive 
Touch to get to Control Center or Notifications. 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:04 PM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: swiping up to go to home

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can someone 
guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not really good at 
swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything manually and I didnt 
swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards, 
until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use to swipe, and how fast 
do I swipe the screen?
shirley

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RE: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

[Alan Lemly]

Joy and Sieghard,

 

One last thing you might want to try is to sign out of the Audible app and sign 
back in. I know when they first introduced the ability to purchase books using 
credits from within the Audible app, the button allowing purchase with a credit 
when I was reviewing details of a potential purchase was unavailable to me 
until I signed out and signed back into my account within the Audible app.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Joy Cyr
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:52 AM
To: iPhone List
Subject: Re: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

 

Think that is more less what I'll do Sieghart.  I would rather look after it 
now but trying to do this via email will be too time consuming so I'll wait and 
hope the phone centre opens soon.

 

Re the actual app, my player tab went away for weeks but then returned so you 
may be right, a reinstall is probably a good idea just to make sure it is all 
running properly.  According to the info I do have the most recent version.  As 
far as the differences noted I wondered if the app might be related to the 
websites?  Audible.ca and audible.com are separate (and if you've ever tried 
getting a book transferred from one to another then you know they make a big 
deal of that separateness!) so I thought maybe the apps were connected to the 
respective websites.  Just an idea..

 

Thanks to everyone who contributed, on the upside least I know now it isn't 
something simple I just wasn't doing!

Joy

 

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is either a daring adventure or nothing."

-- Helen Keller

 

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Re: Question About Blocking a Contact?

[Shirley Baker]

I finally found block but I had to go to phone, then go to the contacts tab. I 
had been trying to do this by just going to the contacts list. and not going 
into phone first.
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> I get add to favorites, share my location, add to emergency bypass, iPhone, 
> notes but I do not see anything about block anywhere.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
>> 
>> Just go into the contacts name, and hit the block button, and when you want 
>> to unblock them again you can go back into their name and back into block 
>> and unblock them again.
>> shirley
>> - Original Message - From: "Shirley Baker" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:32 PM
>> Subject: Question About Blocking a Contact?
>> 
>> 
>>> Is there a way to temporarily block a contact? I know how to block unwanted 
>>> calls but I can't seem to make it work on a contact.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: swiping up to go to home

[Wayne Merritt]

You can turn on VoiceOver Help and practice the gesture if you need
to. This would be a great way to practice the newer gestures for going
home, to the app switcher, and to the control and notification
centers. You will also use it when unlocking your phone with Face ID.

Wayne

On 5/13/20, richr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> It took me some  time as well, but with practice I’m certain you’ll get it!
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Shirley Healy
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: swiping up to go to home
>
>
>
> thanks. its going to take me a lot of practice. I tried it but I am not good
> at it. I got to the app switcher one time, but that was it.
>
> I'll keep practicing.
>
> shirley
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Richard Turner 
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:12 PM
>
> Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home
>
>
>
> 1 finger,
>
> Start on the bottom edge just off the screen surface and slide smoothly and
> not too fast up until you hear a second tone, there should also be a haptic
> vibration.
>
> Lift your finger and that takes you to the home screen.
>
> The same gesture, but at the third sound or second vibration will take you
> to the app switcher.
>
>
>
> It takes some practice, and if you start hearing the usual screen clicks you
> get with VoiceOver, you aren’t starting at the right place.  It has to be a
> smooth slide.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
> Oregon.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Shirley Healy
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:04 AM
> To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
> Subject: swiping up to go to home
>
>
>
> I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can
> someone guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not
> really good at swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything
> manually and I didnt swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of
> the screen upwards, until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use
> to swipe, and how fast do I swipe the screen?
>
> shirley
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Re: Question About Blocking a Contact?

[Shirley Baker]

I tried this several times and there is no block. I even took the contact out 
and put it back in and still no block.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Shirley Healy  wrote:
> 
> Just go into the contacts name, and hit the block button, and when you want 
> to unblock them again you can go back into their name and back into block and 
> unblock them again.
> shirley
> - Original Message - From: "Shirley Baker" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:32 PM
> Subject: Question About Blocking a Contact?
> 
> 
>> Is there a way to temporarily block a contact? I know how to block unwanted 
>> calls but I can't seem to make it work on a contact.
>> 
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RE: swiping up to go to home

[richring]

It took me some  time as well, but with practice I’m certain you’ll get it!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Healy
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: swiping up to go to home

 

thanks. its going to take me a lot of practice. I tried it but I am not good at 
it. I got to the app switcher one time, but that was it.

I'll keep practicing.

shirley

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:12 PM

Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home

 

1 finger,

Start on the bottom edge just off the screen surface and slide smoothly and not 
too fast up until you hear a second tone, there should also be a haptic 
vibration.

Lift your finger and that takes you to the home screen.

The same gesture, but at the third sound or second vibration will take you to 
the app switcher.

 

It takes some practice, and if you start hearing the usual screen clicks you 
get with VoiceOver, you aren’t starting at the right place.  It has to be a 
smooth slide.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Shirley Healy
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:04 AM
To: ViPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: swiping up to go to home

 

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can someone 
guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not really good at 
swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything manually and I didnt 
swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards, 
until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use to swipe, and how fast 
do I swipe the screen?

shirley

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Re: Question About Blocking a Contact?

[Shirley Healy]

Just go into the contacts name, and hit the block button, and when you want 
to unblock them again you can go back into their name and back into block 
and unblock them again.

shirley
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:32 PM
Subject: Question About Blocking a Contact?


Is there a way to temporarily block a contact? I know how to block 
unwanted calls but I can't seem to make it work on a contact.


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Re: swiping up to go to home

[Shirley Healy]

thanks. its going to take me a lot of practice. I tried it but I am not good at 
it. I got to the app switcher one time, but that was it.
I'll keep practicing.
shirley
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  From: Richard Turner 
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:12 PM
  Subject: RE: swiping up to go to home


  1 finger,

  Start on the bottom edge just off the screen surface and slide smoothly and 
not too fast up until you hear a second tone, there should also be a haptic 
vibration.

  Lift your finger and that takes you to the home screen.

  The same gesture, but at the third sound or second vibration will take you to 
the app switcher.

   

  It takes some practice, and if you start hearing the usual screen clicks you 
get with VoiceOver, you aren’t starting at the right place.  It has to be a 
smooth slide.

   

  HTH,

   

   

   

  Richard

  "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Shirley Healy
  Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:04 AM
  To: ViPhone 
  Subject: swiping up to go to home

   

  I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can 
someone guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not really 
good at swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything manually and I 
didnt swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of the screen 
upwards, until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use to swipe, and 
how fast do I swipe the screen?

  shirley

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RE: swiping up to go to home

[Richard Turner]

1 finger,
Start on the bottom edge just off the screen surface and slide smoothly and not 
too fast up until you hear a second tone, there should also be a haptic 
vibration.
Lift your finger and that takes you to the home screen.
The same gesture, but at the third sound or second vibration will take you to 
the app switcher.

It takes some practice, and if you start hearing the usual screen clicks you 
get with VoiceOver, you aren’t starting at the right place.  It has to be a 
smooth slide.

HTH,



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Healy
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:04 AM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: swiping up to go to home

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can someone 
guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not really good at 
swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything manually and I didnt 
swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards, 
until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use to swipe, and how fast 
do I swipe the screen?
shirley
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RE: Metro-by-t-mobile offering the SE2020 for $99.99

[Dennis Long]

I ment how gb is it I should've stated that better.

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The new SE is the size of an iPhone 8. 

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What size SE is it?  how do I see if the coverage improved in my area?  How 
long does Metro lock there phones for?

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Subject: Metro-by-t-mobile offering the SE2020 for $99.99

if you're looking for a good deal and don't mind switching, you can get the 
SE2020 for $99.99. This would be a good deal for those of you who are on 
prepaid or have family or friends who are wanting to get a good deal and the 
network has good coverage where you live. This network has gotten a lot better 
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swiping up to go to home

[Shirley Healy]

I just got the IPhone x. I am not used to not having a home button. Can someone 
guide me on what is the best way to swipe to access it? I'm not really good at 
swiping, as usually with my old phone I did everything manually and I didnt 
swipe much. Its telling me to swipe from the bottom of the screen upwards, 
until I hear it vibrate once. how many fingers do I use to swipe, and how fast 
do I swipe the screen?
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RE: Metro-by-t-mobile offering the SE2020 for $99.99

[Carolyn]

The new SE is the size of an iPhone 8. 

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Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Metro-by-t-mobile offering the SE2020 for $99.99

What size SE is it?  how do I see if the coverage improved in my area?  How 
long does Metro lock there phones for?

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Subject: Metro-by-t-mobile offering the SE2020 for $99.99

if you're looking for a good deal and don't mind switching, you can get the 
SE2020 for $99.99. This would be a good deal for those of you who are on 
prepaid or have family or friends who are wanting to get a good deal and the 
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RE: Section Index.

[Carolyn]

I'll try that. Thanks. 

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Shirley Baker
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Section Index.

If I find myself in my contacts and I want the section index, I just go to the 
left with one finger until I hear it say section index and then swipe down with 
one finger until I come to the letter I want.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Robert Doc wright  
> wrote:
> 
> If somehow you find yourself in the contacts rather than in the index change 
> your rotor to headings and swipe down with one finger. each letter is a 
> heading.
> **
> If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a 
> situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
> - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:29 AM
> Subject: RE: Section Index.
> 
> 
>> Can't you just do a three fingered swipe up to move down your list of 
>> contacts  page by page.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 2:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Section Index.
>> 
>> I will be trying to go down to, say M, but it puts me in the A names and not 
>> right at the top either in most cases.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Marie
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Section Index.
>> 
>> I don't understand what you mean. If you are using it in the contact app, 
>> where should it put you?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marie
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Section Index.
>> 
>> That is what I always have done in Section Index. Now, half the time, it 
>> puts me in my Contact List.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Marie
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 6:55 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Section Index.
>> 
>> what problems do you have with it? It works, as far as I know, the same way 
>> it worked when first introduced and on every phone I have used.
>> First, go to the top of the screen, swipe right till you hear, "section 
>> index". flick down until you hear the letter of the alphabet you want, 
>> double tap on it and you are taken to the header for that letter. Swipe 
>> right to the contact.
>> I have no issues whatsoever with this feature.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marie
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Section Index.
>> 
>> Do any of you have problems sometimes with Section Index just going into the 
>> regular contact list? With some 200-odd contacts, it is a little annoying, 
>> especially, since I had gotten so used to just using Section Index.
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RE: Section Index.

[Carolyn]

Great idea. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc wright
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 5:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Section Index.

If somehow you find yourself in the contacts rather than in the index change 
your rotor to headings and swipe down with one finger. each letter is a heading.
**
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a 
situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
- Original Message -
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:29 AM
Subject: RE: Section Index.


> Can't you just do a three fingered swipe up to move down your list of 
> contacts  page by page.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 2:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Section Index.
>
> I will be trying to go down to, say M, but it puts me in the A names 
> and not right at the top either in most cases.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Marie
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Section Index.
>
> I don't understand what you mean. If you are using it in the contact 
> app, where should it put you?
>
>
>
> Marie
> -Original Message-
> From: Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Section Index.
>
> That is what I always have done in Section Index. Now, half the time, 
> it puts me in my Contact List.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Marie
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 6:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Section Index.
>
> what problems do you have with it? It works, as far as I know, the 
> same way it worked when first introduced and on every phone I have used.
> First, go to the top of the screen, swipe right till you hear, 
> "section index". flick down until you hear the letter of the alphabet 
> you want, double tap on it and you are taken to the header for that 
> letter. Swipe right to the contact.
> I have no issues whatsoever with this feature.
>
>
>
>
> Marie
> -Original Message-
> From: Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Section Index.
>
> Do any of you have problems sometimes with Section Index just going 
> into the regular contact list? With some 200-odd contacts, it is a 
> little annoying, especially, since I had gotten so used to just using 
> Section Index.
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RE: Section Index.

[Carolyn]

Right, exactly what I do. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Section Index.

Can't you just do a three fingered swipe up to move down your list of contacts  
page by page.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 2:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Section Index.

I will be trying to go down to, say M, but it puts me in the A names and not 
right at the top either in most cases. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Section Index.

I don't understand what you mean. If you are using it in the contact app, where 
should it put you?



Marie
-Original Message-
From: Carolyn
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Section Index.

That is what I always have done in Section Index. Now, half the time, it puts 
me in my Contact List.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Section Index.

what problems do you have with it? It works, as far as I know, the same way it 
worked when first introduced and on every phone I have used.
First, go to the top of the screen, swipe right till you hear, "section index". 
flick down until you hear the letter of the alphabet you want, double tap on it 
and you are taken to the header for that letter. Swipe right to the contact.
I have no issues whatsoever with this feature.




Marie
-Original Message-
From: Carolyn
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Section Index.

Do any of you have problems sometimes with Section Index just going into the 
regular contact list? With some 200-odd contacts, it is a little annoying, 
especially, since I had gotten so used to just using Section Index.

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RE: Metro-by-t-mobile offering the SE2020 for $99.99

[Dennis Long]

What size SE is it?  how do I see if the coverage improved in my area?  How 
long does Metro lock there phones for?

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Metro-by-t-mobile offering the SE2020 for $99.99

if you're looking for a good deal and don't mind switching, you can get the 
SE2020 for $99.99. This would be a good deal for those of you who are on 
prepaid or have family or friends who are wanting to get a good deal and the 
network has good coverage where you live. This network has gotten a lot better 
over the past couple of years and coverage has been added to places that might 
have had poor coverage in the past. So definitely check it out in your area if 
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Re: Mac Question

[John Panarese]

   You have to turn it on for it to work  in the login window. In System 
preferences, go to Users and Groups. Select, login options, from the list of 
users at the bottom of the list, and then unlock the preferences. Near the 
middle of the login option pane, you’ll find an, Accessibility, button. There 
is a table on that screen in which you can enable the various accessibility 
options at the login window. Just select, VoiceOver, and check the box to have 
it available for you.

Take Care

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> 
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Re: Section Index.

[Shirley Baker]

If I find myself in my contacts and I want the section index, I just go to the 
left with one finger until I hear it say section index and then swipe down with 
one finger until I come to the letter I want.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Robert Doc wright  
> wrote:
> 
> If somehow you find yourself in the contacts rather than in the index change 
> your rotor to headings and swipe down with one finger. each letter is a 
> heading.
> **
> If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a 
> situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
> - Original Message - From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:29 AM
> Subject: RE: Section Index.
> 
> 
>> Can't you just do a three fingered swipe up to move down your list of 
>> contacts  page by page.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 2:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Section Index.
>> 
>> I will be trying to go down to, say M, but it puts me in the A names and not 
>> right at the top either in most cases.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Marie
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Section Index.
>> 
>> I don't understand what you mean. If you are using it in the contact app, 
>> where should it put you?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marie
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Section Index.
>> 
>> That is what I always have done in Section Index. Now, half the time, it 
>> puts me in my Contact List.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Marie
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 6:55 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Section Index.
>> 
>> what problems do you have with it? It works, as far as I know, the same way 
>> it worked when first introduced and on every phone I have used.
>> First, go to the top of the screen, swipe right till you hear, "section 
>> index". flick down until you hear the letter of the alphabet you want, 
>> double tap on it and you are taken to the header for that letter. Swipe 
>> right to the contact.
>> I have no issues whatsoever with this feature.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marie
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Section Index.
>> 
>> Do any of you have problems sometimes with Section Index just going into the 
>> regular contact list? With some 200-odd contacts, it is a little annoying, 
>> especially, since I had gotten so used to just using Section Index.
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Mac Question

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Hi All, 

On my Mac Air when the log in screen comes up, VO is not speaking until I turn 
it on, but once I log in VO works automatically.  How can I fix this?

Steve

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Re: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

[Joy Cyr]

Think that is more less what I'll do Sieghart.  I would rather look after it 
now but trying to do this via email will be too time consuming so I'll wait and 
hope the phone centre opens soon.

Re the actual app, my player tab went away for weeks but then returned so you 
may be right, a reinstall is probably a good idea just to make sure it is all 
running properly.  According to the info I do have the most recent version.  As 
far as the differences noted I wondered if the app might be related to the 
websites?  Audible.ca and audible.com are separate (and if you've ever tried 
getting a book transferred from one to another then you know they make a big 
deal of that separateness!) so I thought maybe the apps were connected to the 
respective websites.  Just an idea..

Thanks to everyone who contributed, on the upside least I know now it isn't 
something simple I just wasn't doing!
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Re: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

[Shirley Baker]

All you do is find the title to be removed and flick up with one finger. It 
says remove and so if you want it gone, double tap that. This is only if you 
have the new updated version of audible.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2020, at 11:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> That is also what I have and I’m in Canada also. I have 4 tabs on the bottom, 
> the “Player” tab is gone.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Deleting Books In The Audible App?
>  
> In the US, my latest Audible version is listed as 3.24.1 (606).
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Joy Cyr
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:41 AM
> To: iPhone List
> Subject: Re: Deleting Books In The Audible App?
>  
> My selections are significantly different.  I did only have four tabs at the 
> bottom for sometime but in the last week or so I went back to having five: 
> home, library, player, discover and profile.  I do still have the cloud and 
> device buttons at the top.
>  
> Ihave my  apps set to automatically update and my other apps are up to 
> date..  I did just go look a few minutes ago (but unwisely went to check 
> several other options before writing), think it said this is version 3.24.1.  
> Doesn't make sense to me that the app would be different in the US and Canada 
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Re: group me accessibility?

[Isaac Hebert]

Here is a link to some information about group me.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/groupme/id392796698

On 5/13/20, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
> What does this app do?
>
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Re: group me accessibility?

[KliphnShari Miller]

What does this app do?


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Re: group me accessibility?

[Michael Irons]

Group me is accessible with voiceover

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Very interesting, my version as far as I can tell matches yours exactly and I 
wonder how they can have this feature in the same app version in one country 
and not another, it makes no sense. I may have to follow the advice I gave Joy 
and delete the app and reinstall it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

Hi Sieghard,

Yes, the Audible latest version app in the States lets us single finger swipe 
on our library titles and offers a remove from device option for any which have 
been downloaded to the device. It sounds like maybe the version you have in 
Canada doesn't offer that option yet based on what at least one other has 
posted on this thread.

Alan

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:27 PM
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Hi Alan,

You say “doing a single finger swipe on a title which has been downloaded to my 
iPhone will offer a choice of remove from device”.
Are you saying you can flick up or down on a title and it gives you a 
remove/delete option?
This is also new to me and while how Audible has had it for quite some time now 
works fine, I wish they did use the rotor and you could flick up to a delete 
option on a book.
The way I have to delete books is to first double tap on what I call the 
“master delete” button which is to the left of refresh. Once activated each 
title I downloaded has a delete button, I have to double tap on it, wait for a 
second until Voiceover says “Delete” a second time and then double tap before 
the book is deleted.

I agree that it would be silly to allow you to delete books from your Cloud 
library, this is where you have all the books you have bought and how else 
would you be able to access them. I assume Audible could implement some sort of 
feature which would allow you to Hide a book and to then have access to that 
hidden section in case you ever want to unhide a book, but as far as I am 
concerned I want all my books in my Cloud tab so I can search for any of them 
if I want to listen to something a second time.

Regards,
Sieghard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:43 PM
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Subject: RE: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

I've got the same buttons and controls Richard detailed in his below message. 
Deleting a title is very easy as others have already posted. When I have all 
titles selected, doing a single finger swipe on a title which has been 
downloaded to my iPhone will offer a choice of remove from device when that 
title has focus. This option is not available on titles that are only in the 
cloud. I'm a bit confused why deleting an Audible book is causing confusion. It 
seems to me that they've got it working well as it is now.

Alan Lemly

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
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You may be on an older version of the app, or it is different in Canada.
On the bottom, I now only have 4 tabs: Home, Library, Originals, and Discover.
There is no longer a Cloud button or Device button at the top.
Along the top if you select the Library tab, you have these buttons:
Search, Titles, Unread, Collection, All Titles, Not Started, Started, 
Downloaded, Finished.
Depending on which one of those is selected, you will find the number of titles 
in that section, then a Recent button and a Select button, which I have not 
quite sorted out what the Selected button accomplishes.




Richard
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joy Cyr
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:39 AM
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Subject: Re: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

You're right, it is fascinating since I don't have an unread option!  I can 
sort by: recent, length, title and author.  That's all of my choices.

I'd love to call them but at least here in Canada they've closed the phone line 
so that option isn't currently available and I am really fed up of having so 
many excess titles.

Thanks,
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RE: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Joy,

I sort of understand what  you are saying and I guess all you can do there is 
to send feedback to ?Audible asking for a way to completely remove a book from 
your library or at least hide it. Maybe others are also asking for this and if 
enough people do Audible may implement such a feature.
As for deleting books you downloaded that is not difficult. I am also in Canada 
and I actually don't think it makes a difference, Audible is not releasing a 
"Canadian" version of their app. If you still have the "Player" tab at the 
bottom instead of just Home, Library, Discover and Profile I would recommend 
you delete and redownload the app, might just be a glitch.


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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

If these audible titles have been in your account for more then one year, they 
can't be removed even by phone.

On 5/13/20, Joy Cyr  wrote:
> Since it is side tracking the topic I'll simply say there was a time 
> before I had an iPhone or direct access to my Audible books when 
> someone else had access to my account.  They got in the habit of treating it 
> as an extension
> of there own account.I now have namy books in it that I never bought and
> never will read.  I want them out of there!  If the phone line was 
> open I probably would have dealt with it that way, however, regardless 
> of the reason there should be a method to remove a book from 
> displaying in your cloud library.
>
> In any case hope that clarifies things and if anyone does run across a 
> method I'd adore hearing about it.  And I do hope that we also have 
> the ability to delete books easily in the Canadian app in the near 
> future because there are definitely some titles I would like to know 
> are there if I want them but have no need to clutter up the phone with.
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group me accessibility?

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Re: any good apps to convert PDF's into an accessible format?

[Isaac Hebert]

One of the apps that you can use to convert to accessible pdfs is
prismo.  Here is a link to the app.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/prizmo-5-pro-scanner/id1460243446

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Re: any good apps to convert PDF's into an accessible format?

[Devin Prater]

Voice Dream Scanner is about as good as it gets.

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any good apps to convert PDF's into an accessible format?

['Maria Reyes' via VIPhone]

hi guys! Is there any app that can convert a PDF into a more accessible format? 
or at least let me type in it?

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RE: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

[Richard Turner]

And, you can always search your library for the book you want to read rather 
than scrolling through every title.
Or, sort by unfinished books, finished, etc.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

I expect we'll never see a way to permanently delete Audible titles from our 
library. I can imagine such an ability to cause many more problems than the one 
or two it might solve. I expect you're going to have to deal with the issue 
until you can get someone from Audible Support on the phone.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone


On May 13, 2020, at 4:18 AM, Joy Cyr mailto:delig...@aei.ca>> 
wrote:
Since it is side tracking the topic I'll simply say there was a time before I 
had an iPhone or direct access to my Audible books when someone else had access 
to my account.  They got in the habit of treating it as an extension of there 
own account.I now have namy books in it that I never bought and never will 
read.  I want them out of there!  If the phone line was open I probably would 
have dealt with it that way, however, regardless of the reason there should be 
a method to remove a book from displaying in your cloud library.

In any case hope that clarifies things and if anyone does run across a method 
I'd adore hearing about it.  And I do hope that we also have the ability to 
delete books easily in the Canadian app in the near future because there are 
definitely some titles I would like to know are there if I want them but have 
no need to clutter up the phone with.

Thanks,
Joy

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Re: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

[Alan Lemly]

I expect we'll never see a way to permanently delete Audible titles from our 
library. I can imagine such an ability to cause many more problems than the one 
or two it might solve. I expect you're going to have to deal with the issue 
until you can get someone from Audible Support on the phone.

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 4:18 AM, Joy Cyr  wrote:
> 
> Since it is side tracking the topic I'll simply say there was a time before 
> I had an iPhone or direct access to my Audible books when someone else had 
> access to my account.  They got in the habit of treating it as an extension 
> of there own account.I now have namy books in it that I never bought and 
> never will read.  I want them out of there!  If the phone line was open I 
> probably would have dealt with it that way, however, regardless of the reason 
> there should be a method to remove a book from displaying in your cloud 
> library.
> 
> In any case hope that clarifies things and if anyone does run across a method 
> I'd adore hearing about it.  And I do hope that we also have the ability to 
> delete books easily in the Canadian app in the near future because there are 
> definitely some titles I would like to know are there if I want them but have 
> no need to clutter up the phone with.
> 
> Thanks,
> Joy
> 
> 
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> is either a daring adventure or nothing."
> -- Helen Keller
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For Apple, Accessibility Awareness Happens All Year Long, from Forbs magazine

[Richard Turner]

Below is a very long article, but easier to read this way than on the web site:


For Apple, Accessibility Awareness Happens All Year Long
Photo of Steven Aquino
Steven Aquino
Contributor
Diversity & Inclusion
Steven covers accessibility and assistive technology.
The blue accessibility icon on a blue background, with eyes, an ear, and a hand 
around APPLE
May is Accessibility Awareness Month.
As I reported last week for iMore, Apple is recognizing the occasion with a 
slew of minor yet notable updates to its various properties-Apple Store 
editorial, Apple Support, and more. Celebrating Accessibility Awareness Month 
is something the company has done for several years, so this year is no 
different. Like privacy, Apple's commitment to prioritizing assistive 
technology is institutional; to paraphrase Kendrick Lamar, Apple got 
accessibility in their DNA. I've heard stories about how former iOS boss Scott 
Forstall pushed internally for the inclusion of accessibility features into 
what was then known as iPhone OS. The first batch-VoiceOver, Zoom, Mono Audio, 
and White-on-Black- made their debut in 2009 with the iPhone 3GS. There is a 
codified way of doing business at Apple, and accessibility plays a big role. 
Accessibility is part and parcel of the design process for new products and 
initiatives within Apple Park. It's my understanding, according to multiple 
sources familiar with the matter, accessibility is on the ground floor of 
considerations when Apple starts development of any product.
While it's certainly right to laud Apple for recognizing Accessibility 
Awareness Month, the truth is recognizing accessibility is a continuous project 
for the company that extends beyond one month or one day. Accessibility 
awareness is a 365-day affair at Apple. From emoji and WWDC to media events and 
diversity reports, the company tries hard to ensure people with disabilities 
are properly represented in just about everything associated with Apple.
With this im mind, and with Global Accessibility Awareness Day (GAAD) coming 
next Thursday, May 21, as of this writing, here are two areas in which 
accessibility is abstractly prevalent throughout Apple's software and services.
Accessibility Makes The Front Page
One of the under-the-radar changes made to iOS 13 (and iPadOS and watchOS 6) 
was the Accessibility settings were moved from the General section of Settings 
to the front page. To borrow a journalistic expression, the fact Accessibility 
went "above the fold" is not merely a change for convenience's sake. It is 
hugely symbolic-and a reflection of Apple's institutional empathy for disabled 
people. That Accessibility is on the main page, occupying the same space as 
other critical system settings, sends a subtle yet powerful message that 
accessibility matters. Not only to users like me with medically-sanctioned 
conditions, but to every user. Apple is oft to remind people that accessibility 
features are relevant to anyone, regardless of ability. While these features 
will (and should) always remain targeted at people such as myself, good 
software is useful to everyone. You need not have a bonafide visual impairment 
to appreciate Dynamic Type, for example. (Which is all the more reason 
third-party developers should support the API in their apps.)
In a broader sociocultural context, that Accessibility is on the main page is 
important. Again, the symbolism is significant. While you certainly could 
fairly ask why it wasn't done sooner, the fact Apple did this at all speaks 
volumes about how they value disabled people. Apple is literally putting the 
needs of people with disabilities front and center; it's a meaningful gesture 
that goes beyond literal access. By contrast, it annoys me greatly to see news 
articles and YouTube videos refer to accessibility options as "hidden"-the 
implication being said features are deliberately buried deep in the bowels of 
the operating system by an engineer gone rogue, never to be discovered.
As I wrote in my piece on Apple and disability discount pricing, ableism 
pervades society just as much as racism and sexism, yet is talked about far 
less. Any logical, good-hearted person will agree people with disabilities and 
our plights matter, but it oftentimes feels like mostly lip service in the 
grand scheme. As I wrote to conclude the aforementioned piece:
Even amidst the steady drumbeat of championing diversity and inclusion, 
supporters leave out disabled people more often than not. We're relegated to 
patronizing, feel-good, human interest story status.
As such, Apple's decision to move the Accessibility menu stands to challenge 
those gee-whiz sentiments. It's yet another example of the company saying 
people with disabilities exist and their needs are important and deserving of 
accommodation.
Disabled people are just as marginalized and underrepresented as women, people 
of color, and the LGBT community. And that's not even getting into the 
intersectionality o

Re: Metro-by-t-mobile offering the SE2020 for $99.99

[Gerardo Corripio]

I hope Mexico would have deals an dprices like these! You guys are lucky! good 
luck, if any of you’ll decide to take advantage of the deal!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 13 may 2020, a la(s) 6:44 a.m., Gordon  escribió:
> 
> if you're looking for a good deal and don't mind switching, you can get the 
> SE2020 for $99.99. This would be a good deal for those of you who are on 
> prepaid or have family or friends who are wanting to get a good deal and the 
> network has good coverage where you live. This network has gotten a lot 
> better over the past couple of years and coverage has been added to places 
> that might have had poor coverage in the past. So definitely check it out in 
> your area if any of the above applies to you.
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Metro-by-t-mobile offering the SE2020 for $99.99

[Gordon]

if you're looking for a good deal and don't mind switching, you can get 
the SE2020 for $99.99. This would be a good deal for those of you who 
are on prepaid or have family or friends who are wanting to get a good 
deal and the network has good coverage where you live. This network has 
gotten a lot better over the past couple of years and coverage has been 
added to places that might have had poor coverage in the past. So 
definitely check it out in your area if any of the above applies to you.


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Re: iTunes store purchase redownloads.

[Mike B]

Hi Simon,

Check out the following:

http://maplelabs.co/faq-items/see-your-purchase-history-in-the-app-store-or-itunes-store/

How to view purchase history in the App Store or iTunes Store

View a list of the apps, songs, movies, TV shows, books, or other items that 
you bought with your Apple ID.

An iPhone X showing a sample Purchase History.
After you buy content from the App Store or iTunes Store or make other 
digital purchases with your Apple ID, you can
redownload your purchases on any compatible device.
 If you want to see a complete list of your purchases in chronological 
order, you can view your purchase history. In your purchase history, you can 
do
these things:
list of 5 items
• View when an order was billed to your account.
• View the date of purchase.
• Resend email receipts.
• Search by the amount charged (on the web).
• See which payment method was charged.
list end
If you’re not currently logged in with the same Apple ID that you use to 
make purchases in the App Store and iTunes Store, if you’re using a 
different
device, or if you don’t see your purchase, follow the directions below.

See your purchase history on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch
list of 3 items
1. Go to Settings > [your name] > iTunes & App Store.
2. Tap your Apple ID, then tap View Apple ID. You might be asked to sign in 
with your Apple ID. If you use Family Sharing, you’ll see in your purchase
history what you bought using your Apple ID, but you won’t see what other 
family members bought. To see what other family members bought, sign in with
their Apple ID.
3. Swipe up to Purchase History and tap it.
list end

Purchases are grouped by the date that they were charged to the payment 
method that you have on file. You might see a Pending section at the top of 
your
history; these items haven’t yet charged to your account. By default, only 
the last 90 days show up in your purchase history. To change the range, tap
Last 90 Days at the top of the screen, then select the range that you want 
to view. Learn what to do
if you still can’t find your purchase

Tap on the > to the right of the total billed charge to see details of an 
invoice, including the billing date and order ID. If the total charge was 
more
than zero, you can tap Resend at the bottom of the invoice details screen to 
get a new email receipt.

An iPhone X showing a sample invoice in Purchase History.

If you have recurring charges, learn how to
 change or cancel subscriptions.

Manage Supscription in iOS


Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Simon A Fogarty
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:18 AM
Subject: iTunes store purchase redownloads.


Hi Lists,



Over the last 7 or 8 years I’ve purchased a large number of audio books 
through iTunes



A lot of what I’ve purchased I’ve lost from my phone and iPod where I keep a 
lot of the books I have.

I’d like to redownload the books I’ve spent a lot of money on but can’t find



Does anyone know how I can get these older titles downloaded or at least a 
list of  what I purchased prior to a year ago?



Cheers for any thoughts



Simon F




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Focus Blue & IPhone?

[Süreyya]

Hi all,

A friend of mine has the following problem with his system:

Everytime when he tries to write something with the Focusbluekeyboard, he
can only write the first letter of a word; the other letters are just not
there...  Perhaps, he has changed a setting by mistake. Does anybody  know
the cause of this?



Thank you very much for your time and best wishes from Germany
Susie

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Re: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

If these audible titles have been in your account for more then one
year, they can't be removed even by phone.

On 5/13/20, Joy Cyr  wrote:
> Since it is side tracking the topic I'll simply say there was a time before
> I had an iPhone or direct access to my Audible books when someone else had
> access to my account.  They got in the habit of treating it as an extension
> of there own account.I now have namy books in it that I never bought and
> never will read.  I want them out of there!  If the phone line was open I
> probably would have dealt with it that way, however, regardless of the
> reason there should be a method to remove a book from displaying in your
> cloud library.
>
> In any case hope that clarifies things and if anyone does run across a
> method I'd adore hearing about it.  And I do hope that we also have the
> ability to delete books easily in the Canadian app in the near future
> because there are definitely some titles I would like to know are there if I
> want them but have no need to clutter up the phone with.
>
> Thanks,
> Joy
>
>
> "Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. ...
> Life is either a daring adventure or nothing."
> -- Helen Keller
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Re: Section Index.

[Robert Doc wright]

If somehow you find yourself in the contacts rather than in the index change 
your rotor to headings and swipe down with one finger. each letter is a 
heading.

**
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a 
situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
- Original Message - 
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:29 AM
Subject: RE: Section Index.


Can't you just do a three fingered swipe up to move down your list of 
contacts  page by page.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Carolyn

Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 2:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Section Index.

I will be trying to go down to, say M, but it puts me in the A names and 
not right at the top either in most cases.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Marie

Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Section Index.

I don't understand what you mean. If you are using it in the contact app, 
where should it put you?




Marie
-Original Message-
From: Carolyn
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Section Index.

That is what I always have done in Section Index. Now, half the time, it 
puts me in my Contact List.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Marie

Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Section Index.

what problems do you have with it? It works, as far as I know, the same 
way it worked when first introduced and on every phone I have used.
First, go to the top of the screen, swipe right till you hear, "section 
index". flick down until you hear the letter of the alphabet you want, 
double tap on it and you are taken to the header for that letter. Swipe 
right to the contact.

I have no issues whatsoever with this feature.




Marie
-Original Message-
From: Carolyn
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Section Index.

Do any of you have problems sometimes with Section Index just going into 
the regular contact list? With some 200-odd contacts, it is a little 
annoying, especially, since I had gotten so used to just using Section 
Index.


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Re: Deleting Books In The Audible App?

[Joy Cyr]

Since it is side tracking the topic I'll simply say there was a time before I 
had an iPhone or direct access to my Audible books when someone else had access 
to my account.  They got in the habit of treating it as an extension of there 
own account.I now have namy books in it that I never bought and never will 
read.  I want them out of there!  If the phone line was open I probably would 
have dealt with it that way, however, regardless of the reason there should be 
a method to remove a book from displaying in your cloud library.

In any case hope that clarifies things and if anyone does run across a method 
I'd adore hearing about it.  And I do hope that we also have the ability to 
delete books easily in the Canadian app in the near future because there are 
definitely some titles I would like to know are there if I want them but have 
no need to clutter up the phone with.

Thanks,
Joy


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iTunes store purchase redownloads.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Lists,

Over the last 7 or 8 years I've purchased a large number of audio books through 
iTunes

A lot of what I've purchased I've lost from my phone and iPod where I keep a 
lot of the books I have.
I'd like to redownload the books I've spent a lot of money on but can't find

Does anyone know how I can get these older titles downloaded or at least a list 
of  what I purchased prior to a year ago?

Cheers for any thoughts

Simon F

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RE: Using the endomondo app?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I tried it a couple of years back for a cycle tracking app and found it 
crap at the time to use,

It didn't like interacting with my hr monitor at the time or the cadence 
computer / device I was using 

I ended going with te wahoo utilities app which allowed me to connect with both 
bt devices 

Mainly because they are wahoo devices


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dacia 
Luck
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 7:26 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Using the endomondo app?

Has anyone used the endomondo App for exercising? If so, do you find it 
accessible? If you have used it, have you use the free or premium version? If 
you use the premium version, how much does it cost?
Dacia

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