Re: Watch complications

[Marie]

Well every other session I have used the same equipment with pretty much the 
same speed and heart rate and it has registered all except the one today. So 
those qualifications are not the issue. This was actually one of my best and I 
had the movement level above other days also and even closed that ring today. 
So none of it makes any sense.

Marie

From: Simon A Fogarty 
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Watch complications

Hi

 

No it’s due to you not having your movement and HR up to the levels they 
require to kick the exercise activity to move.

 

I found that to get it moving up I had to be walking at a pace around the 13 to 
14 minutes per Km and with an HR of over 100 bpm.

 

They must have som equation that works it out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2020 9:47 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Watch complications

 

Can anyone explain the info displayed on the activity complication? I just 
finished a 31 minute workout but the complication shows exercising at zero? Is 
this possibly because I closed that ring for today?

Please help.Thanks,

 

Marie

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RE: Watch complications

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi

No it’s due to you not having your movement and HR up to the levels they 
require to kick the exercise activity to move.

I found that to get it moving up I had to be walking at a pace around the 13 to 
14 minutes per Km and with an HR of over 100 bpm.

They must have som equation that works it out.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2020 9:47 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Watch complications

Can anyone explain the info displayed on the activity complication? I just 
finished a 31 minute workout but the complication shows exercising at zero? Is 
this possibly because I closed that ring for today?
Please help.Thanks,

Marie
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Re: Voice command

[Ann Byrne]

thanks, Richard.  I *love the website.

Ann
At 07:28 PM 7/7/2020, you wrote:
If the person is a VoiceOver user, Voice Control 
will probably not make them hate technology any less.
There are an awful lot of commands to learn, 
even if they are not a VoiceOver user, but it 
also requires a fair amount of patience.
When iOS 13 was in beta, I went through and 
created a list of all the voice commands, which 
is on my web site: www.turner42.com

That should give you some idea.




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On Jul 7, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

How reliable is commanding the iPhone by 
voice?  What are the pitfalls for someone who hates technology?


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Re: Watch complications

[Marie]

Yes I always click on the type of workout and I got the usual alerts during the 
time I was exercising. when I go to the activity app on the phone, it shows the 
calories burned, so I am stumped right now. In addition, I switched to another 
watch face and it also shows zero for exercise. Also the heart rate  either 
show nothing or voiceover is not reading it. If I go into the app, it shows 
current rate and keeps measuring as it should.
I may call Apple Accessibility tomorrow to see if they have more info.


Marie

From: Malcolm Parfitt 
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Watch complications

Hello, 

Did you select your workout type on the watch itself and start it at the 
beginning of your workout?

For example:

I do one hour’s work on my exercise cycle.

So before I start I launch the Workout App on my watch and select Indore Cycle 
as my workout type. I have set it to Open Goal.  This is so I can cycle as long 
as I feel to be appropriate.

So at the commencement of my cycling, I start my workout on my watch.  Once 
done, I select page one on the Workout app and double-tap End.  I then have a 
summary of my session.  I then double-tap End.

Out of interest, if you launch the Activity App on your iPhone, choose the 
Workout Tab and double-tap on today’s workout, what does it say?

Hope this has helped you.

Get back if you have any further questions.


Malcolm Parfitt


  On 7 Jul 2020, at 22:47, Marie  wrote:


   
  Can anyone explain the info displayed on the activity complication? I just 
finished a 31 minute workout but the complication shows exercising at zero? Is 
this possibly because I closed that ring for today?
  Please help.Thanks,

  Marie
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RE: Voice command

[kitty hevener]

Oops, sorry about my giving info re the wrong thing.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:32 PM
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Subject: Re: Voice command

 

I assumed Ann was talking about Voice Control, the new feature in iOS 13 that 
allows pretty complete control of any iDevice with Voice Commands. 

That is quite different from dictation and Siri.

 

 

 

Richard

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On Jul 7, 2020, at 5:27 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Hi Ann, Nost of my interaction with my Iphone is via voice commands.  It works 
quite well, most of the time.  Even when I want to search, I will hit the 
dictate button and speak what I am looking for.  

-Original Message-
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How reliable is commanding the iPhone by voice?  What are the pitfalls for 
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Re: Voice command

[Richard Turner]

I assumed Ann was talking about Voice Control, the new feature in iOS 13 that 
allows pretty complete control of any iDevice with Voice Commands.
That is quite different from dictation and Siri.




Richard
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On Jul 7, 2020, at 5:27 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:

Hi Ann, Nost of my interaction with my Iphone is via voice commands.  It works 
quite well, most of the time.  Even when I want to search, I will hit the 
dictate button and speak what I am looking for.

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Re: Voice command

[Richard Turner]

If the person is a VoiceOver user, Voice Control will probably not make them 
hate technology any less.
There are an awful lot of commands to learn, even if they are not a VoiceOver 
user, but it also requires a fair amount of patience.
When iOS 13 was in beta, I went through and created a list of all the voice 
commands, which is on my web site: www.turner42.com
That should give you some idea.




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RE: Voice command

[kitty hevener]

Hi Ann, Nost of my interaction with my Iphone is via voice commands.  It works 
quite well, most of the time.  Even when I want to search, I will hit the 
dictate button and speak what I am looking for.  

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How reliable is commanding the iPhone by voice?  What are the pitfalls for 
someone who hates technology?

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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[bentleyj1952]

I don't want to tie up this list with repetitive thank you's but it was 
extremely helpful for me to be able to send text messages to family and friends 
who use Android phones.  Getting that message failure notice was getting old.

I won't post any more on this particular subject unless some one else needs 
help with the same problem.

This is a good list.

James B  

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and a text message meant for an Android phone

Richard or Sieghard or someone on this list told me about it a whie back. 

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and a text message meant for an Android phone

Enabling send as sms fixed the problem.

 

I wonder why Apple doesn’t have this turned on by default.

 

I’m sure glad it is now working right.

 

Many thanks for the directions.

 

James B

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Isaac 
Hebert
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.   

HTH

Sent from my iPhone





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Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by 
saying to Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover 
that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and 
just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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Re: Watch complications

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A couple of things to remember.  If you are walking, your arm has to 
be moving.  On the treadmill, for example, with your hands on the 
rests, the watch doesn't know you're walking.  With a shopping cart, 
the same.  When I tread I keep my phone in my pocket so I can have my 
hands on the grips.  Otherwise, my body knows I exercised but the 
watch hasn't a clue.

Same on a bike.

when we do high intensity interval workouts with the trainer, I turn 
on a third-party app to track the workout.  Otherwise the watch 
activity doesn't recognize it.  When you reach your goal, it won't go 
to zero; it will just add to 100%.


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Re: Home quest

[Yolanda Thompson]

There are tabs along the bottom of the screen you have to add workers to build 
your town to farm for food and then you can look at your treasury to see how 
full your resources are for example word stones how many population you have 
you can go to the town to build houses and some more houses you have then you 
can increase your population and so forth you can always go to the log to see 
how you’re doing

Sent from my iPhone

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> I must be the dumbest player ever to try this game! Can anyone get me started 
> on the game please? I understand what I am supposed to do just not how to 
> achieve it. Everything is grayed out, and what workers and population I have 
> inadvertently gotten are starving. Please be specific on what I need to do. 
> Thanks for helping me save my game.
> 
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> Reggie Alvarado 
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Voice command

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Re: Otterbox case for ipad question

[Isaac Hebert]

Some of the differences of the otter box symmetry case include:
otter box drop protection,  removable side panel that can allow one to
attach a cover if you want, and a limited life time warranty.  Here is
a link to info about the case.
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HMZX2ZM/A/otterbox-symmetry-series-case-for-ipad-mini-5th-generation
In addition, here is a link to some info regarding the otterbox
defender series  case.
 https://www.amazon.com/OtterBox-Defender-Case-iPad-Mini/dp/B07QJ2SVDL
HTH

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Re: Watch complications

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

Did you select your workout type on the watch itself and start it at the 
beginning of your workout?

For example:

I do one hour’s work on my exercise cycle.

So before I start I launch the Workout App on my watch and select Indore Cycle 
as my workout type. I have set it to Open Goal.  This is so I can cycle as long 
as I feel to be appropriate.

So at the commencement of my cycling, I start my workout on my watch.  Once 
done, I select page one on the Workout app and double-tap End.  I then have a 
summary of my session.  I then double-tap End.

Out of interest, if you launch the Activity App on your iPhone, choose the 
Workout Tab and double-tap on today’s workout, what does it say?

Hope this has helped you.

Get back if you have any further questions.

Malcolm Parfitt

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> Can anyone explain the info displayed on the activity complication? I just 
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> Is this possibly because I closed that ring for today?
> Please help.Thanks,
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Watch complications

[Marie]

Can anyone explain the info displayed on the activity complication? I just 
finished a 31 minute workout but the complication shows exercising at zero? Is 
this possibly because I closed that ring for today?
Please help.Thanks,

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RE: Facebook Live

[Vivian Conger]

Thanks so much for this.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Isaac 
Hebert
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook Live

 

To turn on  notification so you know when a facebook page gos live, go to the 
facebook page that you are following.  Next choose go to more.  Next choose 
following.  After choosing more, make sure that the get notifications setting 
is turned on.  If you need to change  notifications settings for that specific 
page, go to edit notifications settings under following, and then choose either 
standard or highlights.  When a notification from your church arrives 
indicating that they are live, you can go to the notifications tab and then 
double tap on the notification.After double tapping on the notification, the 
live video should start.  

HTH 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 6, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Vivian Conger mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Resending just in case it didn’t make it to the list the first time.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

 

Are there any guides on how to use FB Live?  My church is doing this with our 
services and I can’t for the life of me figure out how to do what needs to be 
done to view the live feed.

 

Is there a separate FB Live app?

 

I am using iPhone 7 with IOS 13.5.1 and Windows 10 on my PC.

 

Many thanks for any assistance.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

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Home quest

[regina alvarado]

Hi, On the Applevis newsletter there was a game called Home Quest. I know from 
looking in different places that people are playing it successfully. So, I must 
be the dumbest player ever to try this game! Can anyone get me started on the 
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helping me save my game.


Reggie Alvarado 

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Re: Getting IOS VoiceOver to read colors of text?

[Richard Turner]

Not that I have ever heard of.
Maybe a call to Apple Accessibility?
Maybe a feature request through www.apple.com/feedback




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 7, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:

Hello.  Is there any way to get VoiceOver on IOS to tell me the color of text 
on the screen?  I am going through the 100 Days of SwiftUI tutorial and some of 
the tutorial is using code to change colors of text.  I’ve been  running the 
apps on my iPhone and hoping that I’m doing the code right, but it would be 
good if I new for sure the color was changing in case I decide to build an app 
for a sighted person.
Thanks for any help.

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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Carolyn]

Richard or Sieghard or someone on this list told me about it a whie back. 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

Enabling send as sms fixed the problem.

 

I wonder why Apple doesn’t have this turned on by default.

 

I’m sure glad it is now working right.

 

Many thanks for the directions.

 

James B

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Isaac 
Hebert
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.   

HTH

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by 
saying to Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover 
that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and 
just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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Getting IOS VoiceOver to read colors of text?

[Ryan Mann]

Hello.  Is there any way to get VoiceOver on IOS to tell me the color of text 
on the screen?  I am going through the 100 Days of SwiftUI tutorial and some of 
the tutorial is using code to change colors of text.  I’ve been  running the 
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Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

My Mom and one of my sisters has an android phone and I have never had
any trouble sending them text messages.  I'm with Verizon, and it is
unlimited text messages which is nice.

On 7/7/20, Esther  wrote:
> gotcha! Thanks all of you. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>> On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> If you double-tap SMS, it will turn on; it is a toggle. It won't prevent
>> your i-messages, only, as Richard says, will enable you to text to other
>> phones.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Esther
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye
>> Message and a text message meant for an Android phone
>>
>> hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging
>> is turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear
>> after 30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help.
>> Esther
>>
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
>>
>>On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android
>> user, go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.
>>
>>So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device
>> users.
>>
>>If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still
>> turn on send as MMS.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Richard
>>
>>"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
>> not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>> Edward Herbert
>>
>>
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Esther
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye
>> Message and a text message meant for an Android phone
>>
>>
>>
>>hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I
>> just want to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther
>>
>>Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert
>> mailto:isaac.hebert1...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>>Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will
>> allow messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this
>> settings, messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double
>> tap  to turn on this setting.
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>>   wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>>I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android
>> phone by saying to Ciri,
>>“send text to Jessica’s mobil.
>>
>>
>>
>>Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I
>> discover that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
>>
>>
>>
>>I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last
>> name, and just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
>>
>>
>>
>>Can any one make a suggestion?
>>
>>
>>
>>Many thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>>James B
>>
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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[bentleyj1952]

Hi,

I do now.  And, its working fine for when I want to send my friend with an 
Android phone a text.

I'm glad to get this problem straightened out.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

James, yhou do have SMS turned on, don't you? 

-Original Message-
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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a 
text message meant for an Android phone

Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying to 
Ciri, “send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that Ciri 
sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just her 
7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Esther]

gotcha! Thanks all of you. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> If you double-tap SMS, it will turn on; it is a toggle. It won't prevent 
> your i-messages, only, as Richard says, will enable you to text to other 
> phones. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Esther
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
> and a text message meant for an Android phone
> 
> hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging is 
> turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear after 
> 30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help. Esther
> 
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
>On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android 
> user, go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.
> 
>So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.
> 
>If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still turn 
> on send as MMS.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>Richard
> 
>"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Esther
>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye 
> Message and a text message meant for an Android phone
> 
> 
> 
>hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just 
> want to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther
> 
>Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>
>
>
> 
>On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert   > wrote:
> 
>Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow 
> messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, 
> messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn 
> on this setting.   
> 
>HTH
> 
>Sent from my iPhone
> 
>
>
>
> 
>On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
>   wrote:
> 
>
> 
>Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
>I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone 
> by saying to Ciri, 
>“send text to Jessica’s mobil.
> 
> 
> 
>Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I 
> discover that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
> 
> 
> 
>I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, 
> and just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
> 
> 
> 
>Can any one make a suggestion?
> 
> 
> 
>Many thanks,
> 
> 
> 
>James B
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Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Esther]

oh, I didn't know that SMS had more diversity. Thank you for the correction! 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> What do yhou mean, regular messages, Esther? SMS simply enables texts more 
> diversity, as I understand it. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Esther
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
> and a text message meant for an Android phone
> 
> hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just 
> want to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther
> 
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
>On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert  
> wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow 
> messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, 
> messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn 
> on this setting.   
>HTH
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> 
>Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
>I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by 
> saying to Ciri, 
>“send text to Jessica’s mobil.
> 
> 
> 
>Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover 
> that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
> 
> 
> 
>I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and 
> just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
> 
> 
> 
>Can any one make a suggestion?
> 
> 
> 
>Many thanks,
> 
> 
> 
>James B
> 
>
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Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Esther]

hi, I don't have problems with Siri at all. It's just the SMS problem. Siri is 
great! Thank you. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I have struggled with this problem and had some luck with saying Siri, Send 
> text message to 919-xxx, and mostly it gets there to my friend with an 
> Android. 
> 
> I have another friend who had an iPhone, never could work with the thing, got 
> some trade off the thing and bought a Kyocera Dura. So I say, Siri send to 
> friend's iPhone, and away it goes! Bigger than life! She gets it. I just 
> never took iPhone off her number label. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Isaac Hebert
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
> and a text message meant for an Android phone
> 
> Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow 
> messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, 
> messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn 
> on this setting.   
> HTH
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> 
>Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
>I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by 
> saying to Ciri, 
>“send text to Jessica’s mobil.
> 
> 
> 
>Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that 
> Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
> 
> 
> 
>I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just 
> her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
> 
> 
> 
>Can any one make a suggestion?
> 
> 
> 
>Many thanks,
> 
> 
> 
>James B
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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[bentleyj1952]

Enabling send as sms fixed the problem.

 

I wonder why Apple doesn’t have this turned on by default.

 

I’m sure glad it is now working right.

 

Many thanks for the directions.

 

James B

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Isaac 
Hebert
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.   

HTH

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying to 
Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that Ciri 
sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just her 
7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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Re: audible books on mp3 players

[Marie]

I tried to download the Open Audible program and either Defender or the Edge 
browser, stopped it saying it was potentially harmful to my system? I 
aborted the download. These days, it is too easy to get crap so it is not 
worth the risk to me.

JMO




Marie
-Original Message- 
From: Dave

Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

Hi Joshua. as far as i know. It is still available, on the net but It can be
hard to find.

There is also a program, called, open audible, which does much the same
thing.

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

It was actually taken off the internet a couple years ago.  It is one
single program as I still have the EXE file for the latest version
that was released.  I don't think it is being developed any more.  I
have also been using the program for years as well with no viruses on
my system because of it.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:

Everything I've read says it is not just one program, but you have to put
together several pieces.
Could you say more and give a resource?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
Edward

Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
lenron brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:

Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about
converting audible books to other formats.
Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend
against that because it is not a program as such and is apparently
prone to be a mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.
Plus it is a combination of utilities with no accountable source
according to a couple articles I've read.

Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different
options for audible book conversion.
I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a
potential resource.
I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my
Audible library.
Here is the link.
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
epubor.com%2Fbest-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.htmldata=0
2%7C01%7C%7C35d53bf9630d4e3799a408d822721c3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
a%7C1%7C0%7C637297220773905227sdata=DZ1iAavZadT76%2FHAyYQ
WydWnId270bRT9ncjTypqSeU%3Dreserved=0


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible
books to
mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.

On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:

Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players



Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.

I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
quality of the sound.

But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
in the Amazon cloud.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:55 PM, lenron brown mailto:lenro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I don't get the big deal it's another format you download it works.
I could maybe understand if enhanced didn't work but it does work
just fine.

On 7/6/20, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com> > wrote:



yes you can, if you already have them downloaded. But no, if you don't.



-Original Message-

From: Barbara Stahl

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 11:24 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: audible books on 

Re: Facebook Live

[Isaac Hebert]

To turn on  notification so you know when a facebook page gos live, go to the 
facebook page that you are following.  Next choose go to more.  Next choose 
following.  After choosing more, make sure that the get notifications setting 
is turned on.  If you need to change  notifications settings for that specific 
page, go to edit notifications settings under following, and then choose either 
standard or highlights.  When a notification from your church arrives 
indicating that they are live, you can go to the notifications tab and then 
double tap on the notification.After double tapping on the notification, the 
live video should start.  
HTH 

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> Resending just in case it didn’t make it to the list the first time.
>  
> Vivian and Sallie
>  
>  
> Are there any guides on how to use FB Live?  My church is doing this with our 
> services and I can’t for the life of me figure out how to do what needs to be 
> done to view the live feed.
>  
> Is there a separate FB Live app?
>  
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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Carolyn]

James, yhou do have SMS turned on, don't you? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 3:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a 
text message meant for an Android phone

Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying to 
Ciri, “send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that Ciri 
sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just her 
7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Carolyn]

Mine with AT is unlimited. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

Yes, iMessages are unique to Apple, and so logically, SMS is regular text 
messages as it has been around since texting began.

That is a good example of how influential Apple has become.

 

Personally, since not everyone owns Apple products, I’d never turn off SMS, but 
there are situations where SMS cost people as much as 25¢ Per text, which can 
get very pricy fast as much as people are texting these days.

I’m glad my provider doesn’t charge for texting.  Some still do.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

I know this doesn’t help, but I just found it interesting that someone thinks 
of iMsgs as regular text messages, as opposed to SMS which are ubiquitous and 
have been around longer then Apple’s proprietary messaging service.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging is 
turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear after 
30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android 
user, go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.

So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.

If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still 
turn on send as MMS.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting 
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye 
Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I 
just want to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert 
mailto:isaac.hebert1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms 
will allow messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this 
settings, messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  
to turn on this setting.   

HTH

Sent from my iPhone





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  wrote:



Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an 
Android phone by saying to Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I 
look, I discover that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and 
last name, and just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

  

RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Carolyn]

If you double-tap SMS, it will turn on; it is a toggle. It won't prevent your 
i-messages, only, as Richard says, will enable you to text to other phones. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging is 
turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear after 
30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



 

If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android 
user, go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.

So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.

If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still 
turn on send as MMS.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting 
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye 
Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I 
just want to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert 
mailto:isaac.hebert1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms 
will allow messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this 
settings, messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  
to turn on this setting.   

HTH

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an 
Android phone by saying to Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I 
look, I discover that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and 
last name, and just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B

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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Carolyn]

What do yhou mean, regular messages, Esther? SMS simply enables texts more 
diversity, as I understand it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just want 
to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert  
wrote:




Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow 
messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, 
messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn 
on this setting.   
HTH


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:





Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android 
phone by saying to Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I 
discover that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last 
name, and just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B



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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Carolyn]

I have struggled with this problem and had some luck with saying Siri, Send 
text message to 919-xxx, and mostly it gets there to my friend with an 
Android. 

I have another friend who had an iPhone, never could work with the thing, got 
some trade off the thing and bought a Kyocera Dura. So I say, Siri send to 
friend's iPhone, and away it goes! Bigger than life! She gets it. I just never 
took iPhone off her number label. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Isaac Hebert
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.   
HTH


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:





Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by 
saying to Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover 
that Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and 
just her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

James B



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Re: audible books on mp3 players

[Dave]

windows gives that warning, regarding many programs.

Dave

-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: audible books on mp3 players

OK, I decided to look into Open audible.
Well, my computer blocked the download because it says it can harm my 
computer.


Since I am not a technician of any kind, I take that to mean that Microsoft 
thinks it contains issues if not viruses.

Not sure exactly where to go from here.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

Hi Joshua. as far as i know. It is still available, on the net but It can be
hard to find.

There is also a program, called, open audible, which does much the same
thing.

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

It was actually taken off the internet a couple years ago.  It is one
single program as I still have the EXE file for the latest version
that was released.  I don't think it is being developed any more.  I
have also been using the program for years as well with no viruses on
my system because of it.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:

Everything I've read says it is not just one program, but you have to put
together several pieces.
Could you say more and give a resource?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
Edward
Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
lenron brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:

Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about
converting audible books to other formats.
Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend
against that because it is not a program as such and is apparently
prone to be a mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.
Plus it is a combination of utilities with no accountable source
according to a couple articles I've read.

Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different
options for audible book conversion.
I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a
potential resource.
I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my
Audible library.
Here is the link.
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
epubor.com%2Fbest-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.htmldata=0
2%7C01%7C%7C35d53bf9630d4e3799a408d822721c3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
a%7C1%7C0%7C637297220773905227sdata=DZ1iAavZadT76%2FHAyYQ
WydWnId270bRT9ncjTypqSeU%3Dreserved=0


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible
books to
mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.

On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:

Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players



Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.

I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
quality of the sound.

But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
in the Amazon cloud.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never 

RE: audible books on mp3 players

[Don Moore]

I haven't had an issue with it either.  I'm glad to know that it's not 
available anymore.  I'll have to make sure that I keep a copy elsewhere in case 
my computer craps out for some reason.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: audible books on mp3 players

That must be because you got it before it got spread around through the various 
torrent sites that are known for hiding trojan viruses in their executable 
files.
So, since it is no longer being developed, it should not be recommended.
Too many novices will grab something and end up with a virus in their computer.
Just my opinion.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

It was actually taken off the internet a couple years ago.  It is one
single program as I still have the EXE file for the latest version
that was released.  I don't think it is being developed any more.  I
have also been using the program for years as well with no viruses on
my system because of it.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Everything I've read says it is not just one program, but you have to put
> together several pieces.
> Could you say more and give a resource?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> lenron brown
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
> I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.
>
> On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about
>> converting audible books to other formats.
>> Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend
>> against that because it is not a program as such and is apparently
>> prone to be a mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.
>> Plus it is a combination of utilities with no accountable source
>> according to a couple articles I've read.
>>
>> Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different
>> options for audible book conversion.
>> I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a
>> potential resource.
>> I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my
>> Audible library.
>> Here is the link.
>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> epubor.com%2Fbest-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.htmldata=0
>> 2%7C01%7C%7C35d53bf9630d4e3799a408d822721c3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637297220773905227sdata=DZ1iAavZadT76%2FHAyYQ
>> WydWnId270bRT9ncjTypqSeU%3Dreserved=0
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>> You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible
>> books to
>> mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.
>>
>> On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
>>> Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
>>> generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
>>> almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.
>>>
>>> I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
>>> quality of the sound.
>>>
>>> But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
>>> in the Amazon cloud.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he 

RE: audible books on mp3 players

[Richard Turner]

OK, I decided to look into Open audible.
Well, my computer blocked the download because it says it can harm my computer.

Since I am not a technician of any kind, I take that to mean that Microsoft 
thinks it contains issues if not viruses.
Not sure exactly where to go from here.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

Hi Joshua. as far as i know. It is still available, on the net but It can be 
hard to find.

There is also a program, called, open audible, which does much the same 
thing.

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

It was actually taken off the internet a couple years ago.  It is one
single program as I still have the EXE file for the latest version
that was released.  I don't think it is being developed any more.  I
have also been using the program for years as well with no viruses on
my system because of it.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Everything I've read says it is not just one program, but you have to put
> together several pieces.
> Could you say more and give a resource?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
> Edward
> Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> lenron brown
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
> I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.
>
> On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about
>> converting audible books to other formats.
>> Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend
>> against that because it is not a program as such and is apparently
>> prone to be a mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.
>> Plus it is a combination of utilities with no accountable source
>> according to a couple articles I've read.
>>
>> Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different
>> options for audible book conversion.
>> I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a
>> potential resource.
>> I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my
>> Audible library.
>> Here is the link.
>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> epubor.com%2Fbest-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.htmldata=0
>> 2%7C01%7C%7C35d53bf9630d4e3799a408d822721c3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637297220773905227sdata=DZ1iAavZadT76%2FHAyYQ
>> WydWnId270bRT9ncjTypqSeU%3Dreserved=0
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>> You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible
>> books to
>> mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.
>>
>> On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
>>> Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
>>> generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
>>> almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.
>>>
>>> I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
>>> quality of the sound.
>>>
>>> But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
>>> in the Amazon cloud.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>>> 

RE: audible books on mp3 players

[Richard Turner]

Which has stopped being developed unless you know something no one else seems 
to know.
I'm glad it has worked for people, but no one has bothered to give a source.

That alone makes me wonder.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

Hi Richard. Not quite sure what you mean, by several pieces?

It is just one program.

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 1:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: audible books on mp3 players

Everything I've read says it is not just one program, but you have to put 
together several pieces.
Could you say more and give a resource?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
lenron brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about
> converting audible books to other formats.
> Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend
> against that because it is not a program as such and is apparently
> prone to be a mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.
> Plus it is a combination of utilities with no accountable source
> according to a couple articles I've read.
>
> Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different
> options for audible book conversion.
> I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a
> potential resource.
> I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my
> Audible library.
> Here is the link.
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> epubor.com%2Fbest-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.htmldata=0
> 2%7C01%7C%7C35d53bf9630d4e3799a408d822721c3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
> a%7C1%7C0%7C637297220773905227sdata=DZ1iAavZadT76%2FHAyYQ
> WydWnId270bRT9ncjTypqSeU%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
> You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible
> books to
> mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.
>
> On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
>> Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
>> generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>>
>>
>> Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
>> almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.
>>
>> I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
>> quality of the sound.
>>
>> But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
>> in the Amazon cloud.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:55 PM, lenron brown >  > wrote:
>>
>> I don't get the big deal it's another format you download it works.
>> I could maybe understand if enhanced didn't work but it does work
>> just fine.
>>
>> On 7/6/20, Dave >  > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> yes you can, if you already have them downloaded. But no, if you don't.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From: Barbara Stahl
>>
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 11:24 PM
>>
>> 

Re: audible books on mp3 players

[Dave]

Hi Joshua. as far as i know. It is still available, on the net but It can be 
hard to find.


There is also a program, called, open audible, which does much the same 
thing.


Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

It was actually taken off the internet a couple years ago.  It is one
single program as I still have the EXE file for the latest version
that was released.  I don't think it is being developed any more.  I
have also been using the program for years as well with no viruses on
my system because of it.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:

Everything I've read says it is not just one program, but you have to put
together several pieces.
Could you say more and give a resource?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
Edward

Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
lenron brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:

Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about
converting audible books to other formats.
Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend
against that because it is not a program as such and is apparently
prone to be a mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.
Plus it is a combination of utilities with no accountable source
according to a couple articles I've read.

Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different
options for audible book conversion.
I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a
potential resource.
I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my
Audible library.
Here is the link.
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
epubor.com%2Fbest-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.htmldata=0
2%7C01%7C%7C35d53bf9630d4e3799a408d822721c3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
a%7C1%7C0%7C637297220773905227sdata=DZ1iAavZadT76%2FHAyYQ
WydWnId270bRT9ncjTypqSeU%3Dreserved=0


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible
books to
mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.

On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:

Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players



Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.

I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
quality of the sound.

But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
in the Amazon cloud.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:55 PM, lenron brown mailto:lenro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I don't get the big deal it's another format you download it works.
I could maybe understand if enhanced didn't work but it does work
just fine.

On 7/6/20, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com> > wrote:



yes you can, if you already have them downloaded. But no, if you don't.



-Original Message-

From: Barbara Stahl

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 11:24 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players



So it format for is discontinued does that mean that you won’t be
able to

play audiobooks that you previously downloaded in that format or is
it just



me you won’t be able to download future audiobooks in that format I
was

under the impression that you could still listen to the audio for
format

books that you had previously downloaded



On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Dave 

Re: audible books on mp3 players

[Dave]

Hi Richard. Not quite sure what you mean, by several pieces?

It is just one program.

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 1:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: audible books on mp3 players

Everything I've read says it is not just one program, but you have to put 
together several pieces.

Could you say more and give a resource?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
lenron brown

Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:

Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about
converting audible books to other formats.
Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend
against that because it is not a program as such and is apparently
prone to be a mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.
Plus it is a combination of utilities with no accountable source
according to a couple articles I've read.

Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different
options for audible book conversion.
I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a
potential resource.
I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my
Audible library.
Here is the link.
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
epubor.com%2Fbest-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.htmldata=0
2%7C01%7C%7C35d53bf9630d4e3799a408d822721c3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
a%7C1%7C0%7C637297220773905227sdata=DZ1iAavZadT76%2FHAyYQ
WydWnId270bRT9ncjTypqSeU%3Dreserved=0


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible
books to
mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.

On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:

Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players



Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.

I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
quality of the sound.

But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
in the Amazon cloud.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:55 PM, lenron brown mailto:lenro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I don't get the big deal it's another format you download it works.
I could maybe understand if enhanced didn't work but it does work
just fine.

On 7/6/20, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com> > wrote:



yes you can, if you already have them downloaded. But no, if you don't.



-Original Message-

From: Barbara Stahl

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 11:24 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players



So it format for is discontinued does that mean that you won’t be
able to

play audiobooks that you previously downloaded in that format or is
it just



me you won’t be able to download future audiobooks in that format I
was

under the impression that you could still listen to the audio for
format

books that you had previously downloaded



On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Yes, that is true, if he is downloading all of his library.



But, as i said earlier. Soon, he will have no choice, as format 4, is

being discontinued.



Dave.





-Original Message- From: Barbara Stahl

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 8:25 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players



Yes, but if he is 

Re: audible books on mp3 players

[Dave]

Hi Richard. With total respect, what you have heard is nonsense.

I know many people, who convert there books to mp3, using the inaudible 
program. and they have done so, for many years, without any issues.


A lot of people, have expensive, dedicated book players, like the victor 
stream, and the booksense, and other machines too.


If they wish to play their books, on their devices, then they have no choice 
but to convert them.


all the best,

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 1:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: audible books on mp3 players

Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about 
converting audible books to other formats.
Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend against 
that because it is not a program as such and is apparently prone to be a 
mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.  Plus it is a 
combination of utilities with no accountable source according to a couple 
articles I've read.


Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different 
options for audible book conversion.
I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a potential 
resource.
I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my Audible 
library.

Here is the link.
https://www.epubor.com/best-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.html


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible books to 
mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.


On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:

Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players



Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.

I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
quality of the sound.

But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
in the Amazon cloud.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:55 PM, lenron brown mailto:lenro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I don't get the big deal it's another format you download it works. I
could maybe understand if enhanced didn't work but it does work just
fine.

On 7/6/20, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com> > wrote:



yes you can, if you already have them downloaded. But no, if you don't.



-Original Message-

From: Barbara Stahl

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 11:24 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players



So it format for is discontinued does that mean that you won’t be able
to

play audiobooks that you previously downloaded in that format or is it
just



me you won’t be able to download future audiobooks in that format I
was

under the impression that you could still listen to the audio for
format

books that you had previously downloaded



On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Yes, that is true, if he is downloading all of his library.



But, as i said earlier. Soon, he will have no choice, as format 4, is

being discontinued.



Dave.





-Original Message- From: Barbara Stahl

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 8:25 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players



Yes, but if he is downloading all of his books to a computer or just

storing them on a device then he will have to redownload all
previously

downloaded books to read them in the inhanced format.



On Jul 6, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Joshua. You can change the format, of your audible library, at any

time.



If you change to the enhanced format. It will change your complete

library.



Dave.





-Original Message- From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 5:14 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: audible books 

Re: audible books on mp3 players

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Thanks for the article on best audible converters.  However, don't buy
the Epubor program.  I just spent $31 and it isn't very screenreader
accessible and it doesn't work all that well like it claims.  I tried
converting an audible book and it didn't even convert the entire book.
Only a portion of it.  I'm going to see if I can get my money back.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> That must be because you got it before it got spread around through the
> various torrent sites that are known for hiding trojan viruses in their
> executable files.
> So, since it is no longer being developed, it should not be recommended.
> Too many novices will grab something and end up with a virus in their
> computer.
> Just my opinion.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
> It was actually taken off the internet a couple years ago.  It is one
> single program as I still have the EXE file for the latest version
> that was released.  I don't think it is being developed any more.  I
> have also been using the program for years as well with no viruses on
> my system because of it.
>
> On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Everything I've read says it is not just one program, but you have to put
>> together several pieces.
>> Could you say more and give a resource?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>> Edward
>> Herbert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> lenron brown
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>> I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.
>>
>> On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about
>>> converting audible books to other formats.
>>> Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend
>>> against that because it is not a program as such and is apparently
>>> prone to be a mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.
>>> Plus it is a combination of utilities with no accountable source
>>> according to a couple articles I've read.
>>>
>>> Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different
>>> options for audible book conversion.
>>> I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a
>>> potential resource.
>>> I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my
>>> Audible library.
>>> Here is the link.
>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>> epubor.com%2Fbest-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.htmldata=0
>>> 2%7C01%7C%7C35d53bf9630d4e3799a408d822721c3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637297220773905227sdata=DZ1iAavZadT76%2FHAyYQ
>>> WydWnId270bRT9ncjTypqSeU%3Dreserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>>
>>> You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible
>>> books to
>>> mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.
>>>
>>> On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
 Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
 generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players



 Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
 almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.

 I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
 quality of the sound.

 But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
 in the Amazon cloud.

RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Richard Turner]

Yes, iMessages are unique to Apple, and so logically, SMS is regular text 
messages as it has been around since texting began.
That is a good example of how influential Apple has become.

Personally, since not everyone owns Apple products, I’d never turn off SMS, but 
there are situations where SMS cost people as much as 25¢ Per text, which can 
get very pricy fast as much as people are texting these days.
I’m glad my provider doesn’t charge for texting.  Some still do.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

I know this doesn’t help, but I just found it interesting that someone thinks 
of iMsgs as regular text messages, as opposed to SMS which are ubiquitous and 
have been around longer then Apple’s proprietary messaging service.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging is 
turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear after 
30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android user, 
go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.
So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.
If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still turn on 
send as MMS.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just want 
to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert 
mailto:isaac.hebert1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.
HTH
Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying to 
Ciri,
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that Ciri 
sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just her 
7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

Can any one make a suggestion?

Many thanks,

James B
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RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[chaltain]

I know this doesn’t help, but I just found it interesting that someone thinks 
of iMsgs as regular text messages, as opposed to SMS which are ubiquitous and 
have been around longer then Apple’s proprietary messaging service.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging is 
turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear after 
30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android user, 
go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.

So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.

If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still turn on 
send as MMS.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

 

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just want 
to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!






On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert mailto:isaac.hebert1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.   

HTH

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  wrote:



Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying to 
Ciri, 
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that Ciri 
sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just her 
7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

Many thanks,

 

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Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Esther]

hi, Richard, the weird thing is, I did go into settings and SMS messaging is 
turned off so I don't know what the deal is here. Maybe it'll disappear after 
30 days. I'm hoping that's the case. Thank you for your help. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android user, 
> go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.
> So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.
> If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still turn on 
> send as MMS.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
> and a text message meant for an Android phone
>  
> hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just 
> want to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
> On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow 
> messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, 
> messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn 
> on this setting.   
> HTH
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying 
> to Ciri, 
> “send text to Jessica’s mobil.
>  
> Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that 
> Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
>  
> I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just 
> her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
>  
> Can any one make a suggestion?
>  
> Many thanks,
>  
> James B
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RE: audible books on mp3 players

[Richard Turner]

That must be because you got it before it got spread around through the various 
torrent sites that are known for hiding trojan viruses in their executable 
files.
So, since it is no longer being developed, it should not be recommended.
Too many novices will grab something and end up with a virus in their computer.
Just my opinion.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

It was actually taken off the internet a couple years ago.  It is one
single program as I still have the EXE file for the latest version
that was released.  I don't think it is being developed any more.  I
have also been using the program for years as well with no viruses on
my system because of it.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Everything I've read says it is not just one program, but you have to put
> together several pieces.
> Could you say more and give a resource?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> lenron brown
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
> I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.
>
> On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about
>> converting audible books to other formats.
>> Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend
>> against that because it is not a program as such and is apparently
>> prone to be a mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.
>> Plus it is a combination of utilities with no accountable source
>> according to a couple articles I've read.
>>
>> Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different
>> options for audible book conversion.
>> I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a
>> potential resource.
>> I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my
>> Audible library.
>> Here is the link.
>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> epubor.com%2Fbest-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.htmldata=0
>> 2%7C01%7C%7C35d53bf9630d4e3799a408d822721c3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637297220773905227sdata=DZ1iAavZadT76%2FHAyYQ
>> WydWnId270bRT9ncjTypqSeU%3Dreserved=0
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>> You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible
>> books to
>> mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.
>>
>> On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
>>> Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
>>> generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
>>> almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.
>>>
>>> I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
>>> quality of the sound.
>>>
>>> But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
>>> in the Amazon cloud.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:55 PM, lenron brown >>  > wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't get the big deal it's another format you download it 

Re: audible books on mp3 players

[Joshua Hendrickson]

It was actually taken off the internet a couple years ago.  It is one
single program as I still have the EXE file for the latest version
that was released.  I don't think it is being developed any more.  I
have also been using the program for years as well with no viruses on
my system because of it.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Everything I've read says it is not just one program, but you have to put
> together several pieces.
> Could you say more and give a resource?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> lenron brown
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
> I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.
>
> On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about
>> converting audible books to other formats.
>> Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend
>> against that because it is not a program as such and is apparently
>> prone to be a mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.
>> Plus it is a combination of utilities with no accountable source
>> according to a couple articles I've read.
>>
>> Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different
>> options for audible book conversion.
>> I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a
>> potential resource.
>> I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my
>> Audible library.
>> Here is the link.
>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> epubor.com%2Fbest-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.htmldata=0
>> 2%7C01%7C%7C35d53bf9630d4e3799a408d822721c3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
>> a%7C1%7C0%7C637297220773905227sdata=DZ1iAavZadT76%2FHAyYQ
>> WydWnId270bRT9ncjTypqSeU%3Dreserved=0
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>> You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible
>> books to
>> mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.
>>
>> On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
>>> Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
>>> generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
>>> almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.
>>>
>>> I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
>>> quality of the sound.
>>>
>>> But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
>>> in the Amazon cloud.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:55 PM, lenron brown >>  > wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't get the big deal it's another format you download it works.
>>> I could maybe understand if enhanced didn't work but it does work
>>> just fine.
>>>
>>> On 7/6/20, Dave >>  > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> yes you can, if you already have them downloaded. But no, if you don't.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>>
>>> From: Barbara Stahl
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 11:24 PM
>>>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So it format for is discontinued does that mean that you won’t be
>>> able to
>>>
>>> play audiobooks that you previously downloaded in that format or is
>>> it just
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> me you won’t be able to download future audiobooks in that format I
>>> was
>>>
>>> under the impression that you could still listen to the audio for
>>> format

RE: audible books on mp3 players

[Richard Turner]

Everything I've read says it is not just one program, but you have to put 
together several pieces.
Could you say more and give a resource?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about 
> converting audible books to other formats.
> Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend 
> against that because it is not a program as such and is apparently 
> prone to be a mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.  
> Plus it is a combination of utilities with no accountable source 
> according to a couple articles I've read.
>
> Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different 
> options for audible book conversion.
> I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a 
> potential resource.
> I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my 
> Audible library.
> Here is the link.
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> epubor.com%2Fbest-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.htmldata=0
> 2%7C01%7C%7C35d53bf9630d4e3799a408d822721c3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
> a%7C1%7C0%7C637297220773905227sdata=DZ1iAavZadT76%2FHAyYQ
> WydWnId270bRT9ncjTypqSeU%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
> You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible 
> books to
> mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.
>
> On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
>> Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st 
>> generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>>
>>
>> Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take 
>> almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.
>>
>> I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the 
>> quality of the sound.
>>
>> But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it 
>> in the Amazon cloud.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:55 PM, lenron brown >  > wrote:
>>
>> I don't get the big deal it's another format you download it works. 
>> I could maybe understand if enhanced didn't work but it does work 
>> just fine.
>>
>> On 7/6/20, Dave >  > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> yes you can, if you already have them downloaded. But no, if you don't.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From: Barbara Stahl
>>
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 11:24 PM
>>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>>
>>
>> So it format for is discontinued does that mean that you won’t be 
>> able to
>>
>> play audiobooks that you previously downloaded in that format or is 
>> it just
>>
>>
>>
>> me you won’t be able to download future audiobooks in that format I 
>> was
>>
>> under the impression that you could still listen to the audio for 
>> format
>>
>> books that you had previously downloaded
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Dave >  > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, that is true, if he is downloading all of his library.
>>
>>
>>
>> But, as i said earlier. Soon, he will have no choice, as format 4, is
>>
>> being discontinued.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Barbara Stahl
>>
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 8:25 PM
>>
>> To: 

RE: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Richard Turner]

If you do not want to send as SMS, i.e. never send a text to an Android user, 
go to settings, messages, and turn off send as SMS.
So, you will only be able to send iMessages between Apple device users.
If you ever want to send pictures or audio files, you need to still turn on 
send as MMS.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message 
and a text message meant for an Android phone

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just want 
to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert 
mailto:isaac.hebert1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.
HTH
Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying to 
Ciri,
“send text to Jessica’s mobil.

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that Ciri 
sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just her 
7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.

Can any one make a suggestion?

Many thanks,

James B
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Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Esther]

hi, everyone, is there a way to disable SMS messages on an iPhone? I just want 
to send regular messages. Any help would be appreciated. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow 
> messages to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, 
> messages.  Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn 
> on this setting.   
> HTH
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying 
>> to Ciri, 
>> “send text to Jessica’s mobil.
>>  
>> Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that 
>> Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
>>  
>> I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just 
>> her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
>>  
>> Can any one make a suggestion?
>>  
>> Many thanks,
>>  
>> James B
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Re: audible books on mp3 players

[lenron brown]

I have been using that one for years, and it works just fine.

On 7/7/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about
> converting audible books to other formats.
> Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend against
> that because it is not a program as such and is apparently prone to be a
> mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.  Plus it is a
> combination of utilities with no accountable source according to a couple
> articles I've read.
>
> Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different
> options for audible book conversion.
> I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a potential
> resource.
> I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my Audible
> library.
> Here is the link.
> https://www.epubor.com/best-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.html
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
> You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible books to
> mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.
>
> On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
>> Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st
>> generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>>
>>
>> Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take
>> almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.
>>
>> I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the
>> quality of the sound.
>>
>> But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it
>> in the Amazon cloud.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:55 PM, lenron brown >  > wrote:
>>
>> I don't get the big deal it's another format you download it works. I
>> could maybe understand if enhanced didn't work but it does work just
>> fine.
>>
>> On 7/6/20, Dave >  > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> yes you can, if you already have them downloaded. But no, if you don't.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From: Barbara Stahl
>>
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 11:24 PM
>>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>>
>>
>> So it format for is discontinued does that mean that you won’t be able
>> to
>>
>> play audiobooks that you previously downloaded in that format or is it
>> just
>>
>>
>>
>> me you won’t be able to download future audiobooks in that format I
>> was
>>
>> under the impression that you could still listen to the audio for
>> format
>>
>> books that you had previously downloaded
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Dave >  > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, that is true, if he is downloading all of his library.
>>
>>
>>
>> But, as i said earlier. Soon, he will have no choice, as format 4, is
>>
>> being discontinued.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Barbara Stahl
>>
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 8:25 PM
>>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, but if he is downloading all of his books to a computer or just
>>
>> storing them on a device then he will have to redownload all
>> previously
>>
>> downloaded books to read them in the inhanced format.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Dave >  > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Joshua. You can change the format, of your audible library, at any
>>
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you change to the enhanced format. It will change your complete
>>
>> library.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Joshua Hendrickson
>>
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 5:14 PM
>>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>
>> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>>
>>
>>
>> I am going to keep downloading in format 4 for as long as I possibly
>>

RE: audible books on mp3 players

[Richard Turner]

Since this is a hot topic right now, I did some investigating about converting 
audible books to other formats.
Someone had mentioned something called Inaudible.  I would recommend against 
that because it is not a program as such and is apparently prone to be a 
mechanism for infecting machines with trojan viruses.  Plus it is a combination 
of utilities with no accountable source according to a couple articles I've 
read.

Here is a link to an article from February of this year on 5 different options 
for audible book conversion.
I have no idea if any of this will work, but just offer it as a potential 
resource.
I have probably all the books I will be buying from audible in my Audible 
library.
Here is the link.
https://www.epubor.com/best-audible-aa-and-aax-to-mp3-converters.html


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible books to mp3 
so they would then play on the first gen stream.

On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
> Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st 
> generation that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
>
>
> Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take 
> almost twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.
>
> I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the 
> quality of the sound.
>
> But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it 
> in the Amazon cloud.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:55 PM, lenron brown   > wrote:
>
> I don't get the big deal it's another format you download it works. I 
> could maybe understand if enhanced didn't work but it does work just 
> fine.
>
> On 7/6/20, Dave   > wrote:
>
>
>
> yes you can, if you already have them downloaded. But no, if you don't.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Barbara Stahl
>
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 11:24 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
>
>
> So it format for is discontinued does that mean that you won’t be able 
> to
>
> play audiobooks that you previously downloaded in that format or is it 
> just
>
>
>
> me you won’t be able to download future audiobooks in that format I 
> was
>
> under the impression that you could still listen to the audio for 
> format
>
> books that you had previously downloaded
>
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Dave   > wrote:
>
>
>
> Yes, that is true, if he is downloading all of his library.
>
>
>
> But, as i said earlier. Soon, he will have no choice, as format 4, is
>
> being discontinued.
>
>
>
> Dave.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Barbara Stahl
>
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 8:25 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
>
>
> Yes, but if he is downloading all of his books to a computer or just
>
> storing them on a device then he will have to redownload all 
> previously
>
> downloaded books to read them in the inhanced format.
>
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Dave   > wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Joshua. You can change the format, of your audible library, at any
>
> time.
>
>
>
> If you change to the enhanced format. It will change your complete
>
> library.
>
>
>
> Dave.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Joshua Hendrickson
>
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 5:14 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
>
>
> I am going to keep downloading in format 4 for as long as I possibly
>
> can.  I wish when I began with audible, that I had used enhanced, but
>
> I didn't do that.  Its five years to late to change at this point
>
> unless I really have no choice.
>
>
>
> On 7/6/20, Dave   > wrote:
>
> Hi, Don't know about the U.S, or Canada. But 

Re: audible books on mp3 players

[Joshua Hendrickson]

You'd be kind of out of luck unless you could convert your audible
books to mp3 so they would then play on the first gen stream.

On 7/7/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
> Richard, how does that work if you have the victor stream 1st generation
> that won’t take the enhanced. Andy and Shubert
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 11:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
>
>
> Agreed, but for some people, the fact that the enhanced files take almost
> twice the memory, it causes a storage issue.
>
> I've used the enhanced mode since it became available because of the quality
> of the sound.
>
> But, I also do not save everything on my personal storage, I leave it in the
> Amazon cloud.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:55 PM, lenron brown   > wrote:
>
> I don't get the big deal it's another format you download it works. I
> could maybe understand if enhanced didn't work but it does work just
> fine.
>
> On 7/6/20, Dave   > wrote:
>
>
>
> yes you can, if you already have them downloaded. But no, if you don't.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Barbara Stahl
>
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 11:24 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
>
>
> So it format for is discontinued does that mean that you won’t be able to
>
> play audiobooks that you previously downloaded in that format or is it just
>
>
>
> me you won’t be able to download future audiobooks in that format I was
>
> under the impression that you could still listen to the audio for format
>
> books that you had previously downloaded
>
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Dave   > wrote:
>
>
>
> Yes, that is true, if he is downloading all of his library.
>
>
>
> But, as i said earlier. Soon, he will have no choice, as format 4, is
>
> being discontinued.
>
>
>
> Dave.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Barbara Stahl
>
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 8:25 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
>
>
> Yes, but if he is downloading all of his books to a computer or just
>
> storing them on a device then he will have to redownload all previously
>
> downloaded books to read them in the inhanced format.
>
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Dave   > wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Joshua. You can change the format, of your audible library, at any
>
> time.
>
>
>
> If you change to the enhanced format. It will change your complete
>
> library.
>
>
>
> Dave.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Joshua Hendrickson
>
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 5:14 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
>
>
> I am going to keep downloading in format 4 for as long as I possibly
>
> can.  I wish when I began with audible, that I had used enhanced, but
>
> I didn't do that.  Its five years to late to change at this point
>
> unless I really have no choice.
>
>
>
> On 7/6/20, Dave   > wrote:
>
> Hi, Don't know about the U.S, or Canada. But format 4, is being
>
> discontinued.
>
>
>
> You will  only be able to download your books, using the enhanced
>
> format.
>
>
>
> Dave.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Joshua Hendrickson
>
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 4:47 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players
>
>
>
> It really does make a difference between format 4 and enhanced.  Yes,
>
> I know that enhanced does sound a bit better, but I like format 4
>
> because it is smaller.  I just today downloaded a 3 book series that
>
> in format 4 was around one gig in size.  If I had downloaded this book
>
> in the enhanced format, it would have been 2 gigs.  Saving an entire
>
> gig when I downloaded my 3 books isn't insignificant.
>
>
>
> On 7/6/20, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> >
> wrote:
>
> I agree, see if you can't free up a few hundred Mb, if you go with I
>
> think
>
> Quality 4 which is very good, most Audible books are only 150 or 200
>
> Mb,
>
> even if you can only download 1 at a time this would be vastly
>
> preferable
>
> than monkeying around trying to convert them to MP3 so you can put
>
> them
>
> on
>
> an MP3 player.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of

Re: Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

[Isaac Hebert]

Have you tried enabling send as sms?  Enabling send as sms will allow messages 
to be sent when imesssage is unavailable.  To enable this settings, messages.  
Next swipe until you find send as sms and then double tap  to turn on this 
setting.   
HTH

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying 
> to Ciri, 
> “send text to Jessica’s mobil.
>  
> Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that 
> Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.
>  
> I’ve tried using the lady’s first name.  Her first and last name, and just 
> her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I’m out of ideas.
>  
> Can any one make a suggestion?
>  
> Many thanks,
>  
> James B
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Re: audible books on mp3 players

[Dave]

No big deal for me. as i have always used the enhanced format.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: lenron brown

Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 3:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

I don't get the big deal it's another format you download it works. I
could maybe understand if enhanced didn't work but it does work just
fine.

On 7/6/20, Dave  wrote:

yes you can, if you already have them downloaded. But no, if you don't.

-Original Message-
From: Barbara Stahl
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 11:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

So it format for is discontinued does that mean that you won’t be able to
play audiobooks that you previously downloaded in that format or is it 
just


me you won’t be able to download future audiobooks in that format I was
under the impression that you could still listen to the audio for format
books that you had previously downloaded


On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Dave  wrote:

Yes, that is true, if he is downloading all of his library.

But, as i said earlier. Soon, he will have no choice, as format 4, is
being discontinued.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Barbara Stahl
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

Yes, but if he is downloading all of his books to a computer or just
storing them on a device then he will have to redownload all previously
downloaded books to read them in the inhanced format.


On Jul 6, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Dave  wrote:

Hi Joshua. You can change the format, of your audible library, at any
time.

If you change to the enhanced format. It will change your complete
library.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

I am going to keep downloading in format 4 for as long as I possibly
can.  I wish when I began with audible, that I had used enhanced, but
I didn't do that.  Its five years to late to change at this point
unless I really have no choice.


On 7/6/20, Dave  wrote:

Hi, Don't know about the U.S, or Canada. But format 4, is being
discontinued.

You will  only be able to download your books, using the enhanced
format.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

It really does make a difference between format 4 and enhanced.  Yes,
I know that enhanced does sound a bit better, but I like format 4
because it is smaller.  I just today downloaded a 3 book series that
in format 4 was around one gig in size.  If I had downloaded this book
in the enhanced format, it would have been 2 gigs.  Saving an entire
gig when I downloaded my 3 books isn't insignificant.


On 7/6/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
I agree, see if you can't free up a few hundred Mb, if you go with I
think
Quality 4 which is very good, most Audible books are only 150 or 200
Mb,
even if you can only download 1 at a time this would be vastly
preferable
than monkeying around trying to convert them to MP3 so you can put
them
on
an MP3 player.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audible books on mp3 players

Hi!!
I used to have an iphone 5s with only 16 gigs of memory too.
I would just download the books I wanted to listen to and then delete
them
back off of the device. They just remain in the cloud until you
download
them again.
However, it is possible to download the books on to an mp 3 player.
However,
you have to have one that can read protected files, maybe an ipod or
victor
streme or something along those lines. Otherwise, you are going to
have
to
convert the files in to a non-protected format. I think you need
special
software to do this. Anyway, in order to download the files, you need
to
download the audible software and then you just go to your library on
the
audible website and download the items. Then you open the audible
software
and copy the books from there and copy them to your player.
If you need help, you can always call audible, they are always very
helpful
and can walk you through the process.
Oh one more thing, you could also use a kindle fire tablet, it has an
audible app preinstalled on it and its accessible, and very
affordable.
You
could download store and listen to audible books there with ease.


On Jul 5, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Dan
mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi all,



I was thinking of starting to use Audible but it looks like I don't
have
enough space with my little 16gb Iphone six.  Too much other stuff on
there.



My question is this, is it possible to save the Audible books on an
mp3
player instead of on my Six? If so how do I do this?  I looked on the
Audible site and can't find any info about doing this.



Thanks.





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Getting CIRI to understand the difference between an Eye Message and a text message meant for an Android phone

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Hi all,

 

I have sent several messages to a friend who uses an Android phone by saying
to Ciri, 
"send text to Jessica's mobil.

 

Then, I get a message failure notification.  When I look, I discover that
Ciri sent an Eye Message instead of a text message.

 

I've tried using the lady's first name.  Her first and last name, and just
her 7 and 10 digit phone number.  I'm out of ideas.

 

Can any one make a suggestion?

 

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