RE: Rotor set to Rows Option

[Christopher Chaltain]

I went to Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Roter, and I didn’t see 
“rows” as an option. Do you mean “vertical navigation”? If so, make sure it’s 
selected in your VoiceOver roter options.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Rotor set to Rows Option

 

Thanks much, Sieghard.

If you go to:

http://stonepeakconsulting.com/digitalapex/webtraining/

 

would you be able to set rows to your  rotor? I am unable doing that.

Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Rotor set to Rows Option

 

Rows would only show up if you are in a table which is recognized as such, I 
get emails from various suppliers where I have no issues turning the rotor to 
rows.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Rotor set to Rows Option

 

Hi, Group.

It looks like My iPhone8 with iOS14.0.1 does not have Rows Option on my Rotor, 
or at least, I am unable to find it on rotor. (I mean rows as in table.)

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks!

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Re: Ring tones&Alerts continuously updated.

[David Redman]

Hi there, I’m really interested in using some of the ringtones. I can get there 
and view all the files but I can’t copy or move a folder or a file to my phone 
or my iCloud Drive. Do you have any idea what I’m doing wrong? I’ve tried to 
share option to see if I can somehow do it that way but to no avail.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> If you are using windows you can get Switch from NCH software or goldwave.
> **
> Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
> the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you 
> get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
> 
> 
> Family times where there is fun for every ear!
> http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
> 
> Or ask your A device to play Family times on tuneIn
> You can also find us on your mobile device install OoTunes and search for 
> Family times
> - Original Message - 
> From: "'Kliph' via VIPhone" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Ring tones&Alerts continuously updated.
> 
> 
> Yes, there is an app called
> Adapter
> Its for the Mac, but it is free.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:06 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing this again. Would you happen to know of away I
>> could convert this massive folder to mp3 as well? I added the previous
>> folder before all the addons to my phone and there is loads there.
>> 
>>> On 10/18/20, 'Kliph' via VIPhone  wrote:
>>> This is the same folder as before, just added about 4000 more sounds.
>>> Requirements: iCloud Drive, 10GB of space, and a lot of time to go threw
>>> thousands of ring tones and alerts.  There may be a few doubles but its a
>>> large variety that you will enjoy for a long time.  Join the public read
>>> only folder here
>>> https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/063P7bU9RkC56Vdw_V5QaMf1Q#Ring_tone&Alerts_library
>>> There will not be a Dropbox link, I pay for iCloud for a reason.  Enjoy!
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Re: Rotor set to Rows Option

[Wayne Merritt]

Good day. As Sieghard said, rows only shows up if you are in a table.
It is not one you can choose from the VoiceOver Rotor settings. I am
able to use rows when in tables with no issue, aside from finding the
rows option in my many web-enabled rotor items that is. I have also
used rows when viewing a table within a podcast. For me, rows appears
several turns to the left when in the rotor.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/20/20, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I went to Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Roter, and I didn’t see
> “rows” as an option. Do you mean “vertical navigation”? If so, make sure
> it’s selected in your VoiceOver roter options.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Fazil
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Rotor set to Rows Option
>
>
>
> Thanks much, Sieghard.
>
> If you go to:
>
> http://stonepeakconsulting.com/digitalapex/webtraining/
>
>
>
> would you be able to set rows to your  rotor? I am unable doing that.
>
> Thanks!
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Rotor set to Rows Option
>
>
>
> Rows would only show up if you are in a table which is recognized as such, I
> get emails from various suppliers where I have no issues turning the rotor
> to rows.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Fazil
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 8:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Rotor set to Rows Option
>
>
>
> Hi, Group.
>
> It looks like My iPhone8 with iOS14.0.1 does not have Rows Option on my
> Rotor, or at least, I am unable to find it on rotor. (I mean rows as in
> table.)
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks!
>
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RE: Rotor set to Rows Option

[Fazil]

Thanks much, Wayne.
Can you see row option in this table here? I can not.
Thanks!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 6:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Rotor set to Rows Option

Good day. As Sieghard said, rows only shows up if you are in a table.
It is not one you can choose from the VoiceOver Rotor settings. I am able to 
use rows when in tables with no issue, aside from finding the rows option in my 
many web-enabled rotor items that is. I have also used rows when viewing a 
table within a podcast. For me, rows appears several turns to the left when in 
the rotor.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/20/20, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I went to Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> Roter, and I 
> didn’t see “rows” as an option. Do you mean “vertical navigation”? If 
> so, make sure it’s selected in your VoiceOver roter options.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Fazil
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Rotor set to Rows Option
>
>
>
> Thanks much, Sieghard.
>
> If you go to:
>
> http://stonepeakconsulting.com/digitalapex/webtraining/
>
>
>
> would you be able to set rows to your  rotor? I am unable doing that.
>
> Thanks!
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Rotor set to Rows Option
>
>
>
> Rows would only show up if you are in a table which is recognized as 
> such, I get emails from various suppliers where I have no issues 
> turning the rotor to rows.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Fazil
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 8:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Rotor set to Rows Option
>
>
>
> Hi, Group.
>
> It looks like My iPhone8 with iOS14.0.1 does not have Rows Option on 
> my Rotor, or at least, I am unable to find it on rotor. (I mean rows 
> as in
> table.)
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: Ring tones&Alerts continuously updated.

['Kliph' via VIPhone]

What link are you using?  Dropbox?  I have no clue.  If you have the space, 
suggest just using the iCloud link, it will put the folder in iCloud Drive for 
you.

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> On Oct 20, 2020, at 8:01 AM, David Redman  wrote:
> 
> Hi there, I’m really interested in using some of the ringtones. I can get 
> there and view all the files but I can’t copy or move a folder or a file to 
> my phone or my iCloud Drive. Do you have any idea what I’m doing wrong? I’ve 
> tried to share option to see if I can somehow do it that way but to no avail.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you are using windows you can get Switch from NCH software or goldwave.
>> **
>> Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
>> the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you 
>> get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
>> 
>> 
>> Family times where there is fun for every ear!
>> http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
>> 
>> Or ask your A device to play Family times on tuneIn
>> You can also find us on your mobile device install OoTunes and search for 
>> Family times
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "'Kliph' via VIPhone" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: Ring tones&Alerts continuously updated.
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, there is an app called
>> Adapter
>> Its for the Mac, but it is free.
>> 
>> 
 On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:06 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for sharing this again. Would you happen to know of away I
>>> could convert this massive folder to mp3 as well? I added the previous
>>> folder before all the addons to my phone and there is loads there.
>>> 
 On 10/18/20, 'Kliph' via VIPhone  wrote:
 This is the same folder as before, just added about 4000 more sounds.
 Requirements: iCloud Drive, 10GB of space, and a lot of time to go threw
 thousands of ring tones and alerts.  There may be a few doubles but its a
 large variety that you will enjoy for a long time.  Join the public read
 only folder here
 https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/063P7bU9RkC56Vdw_V5QaMf1Q#Ring_tone&Alerts_library
 There will not be a Dropbox link, I pay for iCloud for a reason.  Enjoy!
 
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Re: Question on Using the iPhone Without the Home Button

[Wayne Merritt]

You can also turn on VoiceOver Help to practice the gestures. A 4
finger double tap. I would recommend practicing the new gestures in
this help mode.

Wayne

On 10/17/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> I had no trouble with it at all, when I got my 11.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 9:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question on Using the iPhone Without the Home Button
>
> This one is a little tricky for some people at first.
>
> For the home gesture, put your finger on the bottom edge of the phone, just
> off the active screen and slide it up in a straight line until the first
> haptic vibration which if sounds are on will be the second sound and lift
> your finger.
>
> The first sound is I think an indicator you are doing it correctly for
> VoiceOver users.  It is a different sound than the clicks you hear when
> voiceover is on but you are sliding on blank screen.  Then the sound that
> goes with the haptic to me sounds a little like a drop of water.
>
>
>
> To get to the app switcher, you do the same gesture but continue farther up
> the screen to the second haptic vibration.
>
> I recommend having hints on when practicing these gestures because if you
> pause at the haptic vibration, VoiceOver will tell you if you are on the
> home gesture or app switcher.
>
>
>
> The same approach is used for the notification cetner and control center
> only starting from the top of the phone.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les
> Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question on Using the iPhone Without the Home Button
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Okay, two questions that will assist immediately when I get my phone later
> today. First, what gesture do I use to get back to the Home Screen?
> Secondly, how do I activate the App Switcher? Thanks.
>
> Les
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Re: Connecting Alexa to Multiple iDevices Via Bluetooth?

[Traci Duncan]

Do you mean at the same time? If so, the answer is no. You can have any of your 
iDevices connect via bluetooth to Alexa, but one at a time.

The thing I wish they’d add to Alexa is asking to connect to a specific device. 
Alexa, connect to Dave’s iPhone, or Alexa connect to Marcy’s iPad. Alexa only 
remembers the last device connected.

Traci
 

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Fazil  wrote:
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> Hi, Group!
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how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020

[Dan]

  
  
I have some ring tones I want to save to
my SE.  I attached them to an email an then opened that email on
my SE.  I can't see any way to save the attachments to the phone
now.  What am I missing?

  
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Re: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020

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Sorry that’s not how you do it.   Gotta use iTunes or garage band.  Or a 3rd 
party client out there that some use to by pass iTunes




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> On Oct 20, 2020, at 10:36 AM, Dan  wrote:
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> 
> I have some ring tones I want to save to my SE.  I attached them to an email 
> an then opened that email on my SE.  I can't see any way to save the 
> attachments to the phone now.  What am I missing?
> 
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> Thanks.
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Re: Direct touch on the rotor

[Traci Duncan]

I’ve noticed this when using Flicktype classic. Now, I need to flick in the app 
a couple times, turn the rotor to find direct touch, flick that on, then I can 
use Flicktype like normal. Kind of a pain. *Shrugs…

Traci


> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> I use Direct Touch when playing the accessible game Crafting Kingdom.
> In iOS 13 and earlier, VoiceOver usually automatically set Direct
> Touch when I opened the app. So far, in iOS 14 I have had to turn the
> rotor to Direct Touch and then swipe down to turn it on. After that, I
> was able to interact with the game. I do have to turn Direct Touch on
> each time I enter Crafting Kingdom, which can be multiple times per
> day, but it works fine after I turn it on. It can be tedious but is
> not a big deal.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
> On 10/19/20, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> Hi Richard,
>> 
>> I don't know. It used to be that you double-tapped in an area that had
>> Direct Touch to activate it and touched elsewhere to resume using VoiceOver.
>> I haven't used an app that has Direct Touch in a while, so I'm not sure how
>> the rotor plays into it.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anna,
>>> Do you still have to use the rotor to turn on direct touch in those
>>> situations?
>>> 
>>> It is making a mess of MBraille, though the developer thinks he may have
>>> that solved very soon.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>>> Edward Herbert
>>> 
>>> Live long and prosper 🖖
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>> 
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>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:12 AM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>>> Subject: Re: Direct touch on the rotor
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Direct Touch makes it so you can touch parts of an app without doing
>>> VoiceOver gestures, so you can do things like play instruments in Garage
>>> Band without turning off VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> I hope that's of some help.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 19, 2020, at 10:39 AM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone
  wrote:
 
 Hi again,
 
 What is the direct touch on the rotor?  Seems like I only see it when I’m
 playing games.  I don’t see any usefulness to it other than to annoy me.
 Smiley
 
 Thanks again,
 
 
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Re: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020

[Dan]

  
  
Well,

  
I tried to use Itunes first and can't
figure out how to do it from their either.  I couldn't even find
the darned ring tone files going through Itunes. I also tried to
send the ring tone files to Itunes via the sendto option and
Itunes didn't get them.  
  

  
This is the most unpleasant part of owning
an Iphone in my opinion.

  
Thanks.

  
Dan Beaver

On 10/20/2020 11:42 AM, 'Kliph' via
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Sorry
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I have some ring tones I want to save to my SE.  I
  attached them to an email an then opened that email on my
  SE.  I can't see any way to save the attachments to the
  phone now.  What am I missing?


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Re: Volume keeps Being Reset To Zero

[Charles Spicer]

I can also confirm this bug on an iPhone 7 running ios 14.0.1.
Does anyone know if this is a specific voice over bug?  Does it effect
all iPhone models?
Thank you,
Charles

On 10/8/20, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> Hello,
> Try changing the setting in sound settings for adjusting the volume for the
> ringtone when the volume key is pushed. You want to turn it off. Then, set
> the ringtone volume to what you want to.
> I hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 8, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Grace  wrote:
>>
>> I have, I can't hear any notifications unless the phone is llocked as
>> well.
>>
>>> On 8 Oct 2020, at 10:48 pm, Tom Lange  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> I have a really annoying issue with my iPhone 8 running IOS 14.0.1. The
>>> master volume keeps getting reset to 0. VO volume stays where I set it,
>>> but I can’t hear the ringer or alarms when this happens. Change with
>>> buttons is turned off. Has anybody out there had this issue with IOS 14?
>>> Any ideas?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Tom
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RE: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020

[Richard Turner]

As Klyph said, you need to use iTunes or Garage Band.
I personally find iTunes a bit easier.
Connect your phone to the computer with the cable.
Open iTunes.
Select your phone.
Tab to the treeview that may or may not read well at first.
Press t until you hear Tones.
Tab to the list of tones.
Then, on the computer, navigate to the tones and I recommend doing one at a 
time.
Copy the m4r file with control+c and alt-tab back to iTunes and press control+v
You should hear a tone that confirms it was copied.
Repeat for all the tones you want to add.
Then, you should find them in the Sound settings.

HTH,



Richard
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To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020


I have some ring tones I want to save to my SE.  I attached them to an email an 
then opened that email on my SE.  I can't see any way to save the attachments 
to the phone now.  What am I missing?



Thanks.





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RE: Volume keeps Being Reset To Zero

[Richard Turner]

Interesting.
ON my SE 1st generation running the same iOS I have never experienced this.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Charles 
Spicer
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Volume keeps Being Reset To Zero

I can also confirm this bug on an iPhone 7 running ios 14.0.1.
Does anyone know if this is a specific voice over bug?  Does it effect all 
iPhone models?
Thank you,
Charles

On 10/8/20, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> Hello,
> Try changing the setting in sound settings for adjusting the volume 
> for the ringtone when the volume key is pushed. You want to turn it 
> off. Then, set the ringtone volume to what you want to.
> I hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 8, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Grace  wrote:
>>
>> I have, I can't hear any notifications unless the phone is llocked 
>> as well.
>>
>>> On 8 Oct 2020, at 10:48 pm, Tom Lange  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> I have a really annoying issue with my iPhone 8 running IOS 14.0.1. 
>>> The master volume keeps getting reset to 0. VO volume stays where I 
>>> set it, but I can’t hear the ringer or alarms when this happens. 
>>> Change with buttons is turned off. Has anybody out there had this issue 
>>> with IOS 14?
>>> Any ideas?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Tom
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Re: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020

[Shirley Healy]

Thanks for those instructions Richard. I will try that. I've never tried 
copying tones over before this will be a first for me.
shirley
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:52 PM
  Subject: RE: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020


  As Klyph said, you need to use iTunes or Garage Band.

  I personally find iTunes a bit easier.

  Connect your phone to the computer with the cable.

  Open iTunes.

  Select your phone.

  Tab to the treeview that may or may not read well at first.

  Press t until you hear Tones.

  Tab to the list of tones.

  Then, on the computer, navigate to the tones and I recommend doing one at a 
time.

  Copy the m4r file with control+c and alt-tab back to iTunes and press 
control+v

  You should hear a tone that confirms it was copied.

  Repeat for all the tones you want to add.

  Then, you should find them in the Sound settings.

   

  HTH,

   

   

   

  Richard

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:36 AM
  To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
  Subject: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020

   

  I have some ring tones I want to save to my SE.  I attached them to an email 
an then opened that email on my SE.  I can't see any way to save the 
attachments to the phone now.  What am I missing?

   

  Thanks.

   

   

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Re: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020

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Are you using mac or PC?  The instructions are different for each.


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> On Oct 20, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well,
> 
> 
> 
> I tried to use Itunes first and can't figure out how to do it from their 
> either.  I couldn't even find the darned ring tone files going through 
> Itunes. I also tried to send the ring tone files to Itunes via the sendto 
> option and Itunes didn't get them.  
> 
> 
> 
> This is the most unpleasant part of owning an Iphone in my opinion.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Dan Beaver
> 
> On 10/20/2020 11:42 AM, 'Kliph' via VIPhone wrote:
>> Sorry that’s not how you do it.   Gotta use iTunes or garage band.  Or a 3rd 
>> party client out there that some use to by pass iTunes
>> 
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>>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 10:36 AM, Dan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have some ring tones I want to save to my SE.  I attached them to an 
>>> email an then opened that email on my SE.  I can't see any way to save the 
>>> attachments to the phone now.  What am I missing?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020

[Joshua Hendrickson]

It works quite well.  I have sometimes managed to copy more then one
ringtone to my Iphone, however, Richard is correct that it will
probably work better if you do one at a time.  It is quite easy once
you have practiced it a bit.  I'm glad I now know how to copy
ringtones to my phone using Itunes.

On 10/20/20, Shirley Healy  wrote:
> Thanks for those instructions Richard. I will try that. I've never tried
> copying tones over before this will be a first for me.
> shirley
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Richard Turner
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:52 PM
>   Subject: RE: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020
>
>
>   As Klyph said, you need to use iTunes or Garage Band.
>
>   I personally find iTunes a bit easier.
>
>   Connect your phone to the computer with the cable.
>
>   Open iTunes.
>
>   Select your phone.
>
>   Tab to the treeview that may or may not read well at first.
>
>   Press t until you hear Tones.
>
>   Tab to the list of tones.
>
>   Then, on the computer, navigate to the tones and I recommend doing one at
> a time.
>
>   Copy the m4r file with control+c and alt-tab back to iTunes and press
> control+v
>
>   You should hear a tone that confirms it was copied.
>
>   Repeat for all the tones you want to add.
>
>   Then, you should find them in the Sound settings.
>
>
>
>   HTH,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   Richard
>
>   "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
>
>
>   Live long and prosper 🖖
>
>
>
>   Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
>
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Dan
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:36 AM
>   To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
>   Subject: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020
>
>
>
>   I have some ring tones I want to save to my SE.  I attached them to an
> email an then opened that email on my SE.  I can't see any way to save the
> attachments to the phone now.  What am I missing?
>
>
>
>   Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Connecting Alexa to Multiple iDevices Via Bluetooth?

[Fazil]

I mean that the active device would remain one only but can it remain connected 
to more than one device?

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Connecting Alexa to Multiple iDevices Via Bluetooth?

 

Do you mean at the same time? If so, the answer is no. You can have any of your 
iDevices connect via bluetooth to Alexa, but one at a time.

 

The thing I wish they’d add to Alexa is asking to connect to a specific device. 
Alexa, connect to Dave’s iPhone, or Alexa connect to Marcy’s iPad. Alexa only 
remembers the last device connected.

 

Traci

 





On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group!

Can I Connect Alexa to Multiple iDevices Via Bluetooth?

Thanks!

 

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Request instructions using IOS feature whose name I can't recall

[Donald L. Roberts]

Apologies for the vague subject line.  My S E 2020 is running IOS 13.7.  
I know of an IOS feature which allows the user to write text and then 
invoke it with a very brief command.  So I guess you could call it a 
template.



Whenever I request Lyft or Uber, GPS takes the driver to a Safeway 
parking lot behind my house.  So I need to create a brief instructive 
text to send the driver in order to easily find my house.  Please tell 
me what this feature is called and specifically how to use it.



Thanks much.


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RE: Request instructions using IOS feature whose name I can't recall

[Richard Turner]

I believe you are thinking of the Siri Shortcuts.
There should be a shortcuts app on your phone.
I have not used them much so cannot be of more help, but I’m quite sure there 
are walk-throughs on www.applevis.com as well as other 
places.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
L. Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Request instructions using IOS feature whose name I can't recall


Apologies for the vague subject line.  My S E 2020 is running IOS 13.7.  I know 
of an IOS feature which allows the user to write text and then invoke it with a 
very brief command.  So I guess you could call it a template.



Whenever I request Lyft or Uber, GPS takes the driver to a Safeway parking lot 
behind my house.  So I need to create a brief instructive text to send the 
driver in order to easily find my house.  Please tell me what this feature is 
called and specifically how to use it.



Thanks much.



Don Roberts


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Apple iPhone 12 review: raising the bar: The Verge

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Although the following article is quite long, I would argue that it is a
must-read for anyone considering iPhone 12.

Enjoy,

Mark

Apple iPhone 12 review: raising the bar: The Verge
It’s the one you should get unless you’re waiting for the Max or mini
By Dieter Bohn, Oct 20, 2020.

More than most years, there are a lot of things that are new in the iPhone
12. Apple has loaded in the usual upgrades like a faster processor and
improved camera, but that’s something we’ve come to expect. In addition to
all of that, there’s a new design, a new OLED screen, an entirely new
charging and accessory ecosystem with MagSafe, and, of course, 5G. 

It seems obvious that both Apple and its carrier partners are trying to
align to make this a supercycle for upgrades. All of that new stuff is also
paired with both a higher price ($829 for the base 64GB model) and discounts
and heavily marketed carrier trade-in and installment plans. In the midst of
a pandemic-induced economic downturn, it could be a hard sell.

It’s easy to recommend the default iPhone for the times when you need a new
phone anyway, but it’s much more difficult to say whether all of this new
stuff adds up to something that could compel you to upgrade earlier than
you’d planned.

Nilay Patel is reviewing the iPhone 12 Pro separately, here. Both the
smaller iPhone 12 mini and the iPhone 12 Pro Max with its better cameras
won’t arrive for a little while. There’s reason to consider all of them, but
the standard iPhone 12 is the one I think most people who need a new iPhone
will want to get.
 
Good Stuff
•   Excellent camera
•   Elegant design
•   Promising MagSafe ecosystem
•   Upgraded display

Bad Stuff
•   The 5G tax
•   Battery is a small regression
•   More expensive

iPhone 12 design
I love the new design for the iPhone 12. In addition to being smaller and
lighter than the iPhone 11, it has flat sides and a flat screen. We’ve been
living with curved edges on iPhones for six years, since 2014’s iPhone 6. So
part of my affection might just be that the iPhone 12 feels new. But it’s
also that it feels like a throwback to the iPhone 4 and 5 models, which were
the last iPhones whose design I truly loved.

Despite all of those flat edges, the seams and the corners are beveled just
enough to make it comfortable to hold. The rails on the iPhone 12 are matte
finish aluminum, and I prefer them to the glossy steel on the Pro models.
Unfortunately, the rear glass is super glossy, super prone to picking up
fingerprints, and as susceptible to picking up tiny little micro-abrasions
as ever. Most people will put a case on their phone anyway.

The front of the iPhone 12 isn’t technically glass at all, but a
glass-ceramic hybrid Apple has branded “Ceramic Shield.” It uses ceramic
crystals within the glass itself to improve drop resistance over the iPhone
11. Apple says it’s four times better, which is a good thing because screen
repair costs have gone up this year. I can’t test that with our review unit
(at least, not intentionally), but I did have a totally accidental drop to
concrete from three feet that stopped my heart but only put a barely
perceptible ding in the aluminum. Scratch resistance should be about the
same as last year.

If you look at the aluminum rail, you’ll see a bunch of antenna lines and
even a small plastic section on the side for the Ultra Wideband (UWB) mmWave
antenna. They break up the symmetry a bit (especially on the bottom), but it
doesn’t bother me. I’ve also become notch-blind at this point, but I should
note that Face ID still requires a very big cutout at the top of the screen.

The ceramic-glass hybrid screen should be more resistant to breaking from
drops

There’s no fingerprint sensor, and though I didn’t really expect one, during
the pandemic, it is a frustration. I suppose the one silver lining for
Android manufacturers mostly whiffing on Face Unlock is that their phones
are easier to get into when you’re wearing a mask. 

Overall, though, this design just feels more elegant and confident than the
past few years of iPhones, including even the big iPhone X redesign. And the
smaller size is the best part; the iPhone XR and iPhone 11 always felt just
a little too big. If this is the design we’ll be living with for the next
six years, I won’t complain.

The iPhone 12’s OLED screen is excellent. 
One of the reasons Apple was able to reduce the size of the iPhone 12 is
that it has switched over to an OLED screen. That helps reduce the bezels
and also keeps them perfect even all the way around the phone, while at the
same time keeping the actual viewable screen the same 6.1 inches as the
iPhone 11. I prefer the look of OLED to LCD because of its blacker blacks,
so I’ve been waiting for this change.

Along with the switch to OLED, Apple has also increased the pixel count to
1170 x 2532. If you haven’t been immersed in smartphone tech discussions,
you have blessedly avoided the complaining that previo

RE: Volume keeps Being Reset To Zero

[davycuppens]

Immediately do report to accessibility and do it no wand do it all!
Davy 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Charles Spicer
Verzonden: dinsdag 20 oktober 2020 17:50
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: Volume keeps Being Reset To Zero

I can also confirm this bug on an iPhone 7 running ios 14.0.1.
Does anyone know if this is a specific voice over bug?  Does it effect all 
iPhone models?
Thank you,
Charles

On 10/8/20, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
> Hello,
> Try changing the setting in sound settings for adjusting the volume 
> for the ringtone when the volume key is pushed. You want to turn it 
> off. Then, set the ringtone volume to what you want to.
> I hope this helps,
> Jeffrey
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 8, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Grace  wrote:
>>
>> I have, I can't hear any notifications unless the phone is llocked 
>> as well.
>>
>>> On 8 Oct 2020, at 10:48 pm, Tom Lange  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> I have a really annoying issue with my iPhone 8 running IOS 14.0.1. 
>>> The master volume keeps getting reset to 0. VO volume stays where I 
>>> set it, but I can’t hear the ringer or alarms when this happens. 
>>> Change with buttons is turned off. Has anybody out there had this issue 
>>> with IOS 14?
>>> Any ideas?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Tom
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fire fox, fire fox focus, or duck duck go. Anyone use any of these browsers?

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,
I am looking to have a back up browser on my homepage. Does anyone have any 
experience or thoughts on the following browsers?
Fire fox.
Fire fox focus.
Duck duck go.
Thanks in advance for any insights. Keith

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Re: From Blind Bargains: Breaking: Settlement Brings Audio-described Content to HBO max

[deidre muccio]

This is fabulous. There are a lot of people to thank for this.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2020, at 9:50 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> FYI:
> Breaking: Settlement Brings Audio-described Content to HBO max
> J.J. Meddaugh Oct 19, 2020 11:21 AM ET
>  
> HBO Max is at long last joining the ranks of streaming services which will 
> include audio description, thanks to a settlement announced today.
> Per the agreement, the service will include at least 1,500 hours of described 
> content by next March, and at least four times that amount by March 2023. 
> Improvements to their website and mobile apps are also promised by September 
> of next year.
> The agreement was reached between WarnerMedia who owns HBO Max and a group of 
> defendants
> including the American Council of the Blind, the Massachusetts-based Bay 
> State Council of the Blind, and Kim and Brian Charlson.
> [Read the complete settlement 
> .PDF)(https://acb.org/adp/docs/HBO%20Settlement%20Press%20Release_FINAL.pdf)
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> Live long and prosper 🖖
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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RE: fire fox, fire fox focus, or duck duck go. Anyone use any of these browsers?

[Richard Turner]

I like DuckDuckGo. In fact, that is my default search engine no matter which 
browser I use.  I also have it set as my home page in my browsers.
I learned about it years ago from a consumer advocate on the radio, Clarke 
Howard.
They don't track you, and the results I get are much less blooted with junk 
stuff.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: fire fox, fire fox focus, or duck duck go. Anyone use any of these 
browsers?

hi,
I am looking to have a back up browser on my homepage. Does anyone have any 
experience or thoughts on the following browsers?
Fire fox.
Fire fox focus.
Duck duck go.
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Re: Volume keeps Being Reset To Zero

[Wayne Merritt]

I just noticed this on my new iPhone 11 running iOS 14.0.1. My alarm
seemed quieter than normal this morning in the stock Clock app. When I
looked in the Sound settings I noticed the ringer and alert volume was
at 0%. We'll see what happens tomorrow morning after the adjustment I
made.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/20/20, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Immediately do report to accessibility and do it no wand do it all!
> Davy
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Charles
> Spicer
> Verzonden: dinsdag 20 oktober 2020 17:50
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Re: Volume keeps Being Reset To Zero
>
> I can also confirm this bug on an iPhone 7 running ios 14.0.1.
> Does anyone know if this is a specific voice over bug?  Does it effect all
> iPhone models?
> Thank you,
> Charles
>
> On 10/8/20, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Try changing the setting in sound settings for adjusting the volume
>> for the ringtone when the volume key is pushed. You want to turn it
>> off. Then, set the ringtone volume to what you want to.
>> I hope this helps,
>> Jeffrey
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Grace  wrote:
>>>
>>> I have, I can't hear any notifications unless the phone is llocked
>>> as well.
>>>
 On 8 Oct 2020, at 10:48 pm, Tom Lange  wrote:

 Hi
 I have a really annoying issue with my iPhone 8 running IOS 14.0.1.
 The master volume keeps getting reset to 0. VO volume stays where I
 set it, but I can’t hear the ringer or alarms when this happens.
 Change with buttons is turned off. Has anybody out there had this issue
 with IOS 14?
 Any ideas?
 Thanks.
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Re: Request instructions using IOS feature whose name I can't recall ... text replacement

[Ann Byrne]

I think you are ooking for the same command that 
makes OMG say "oh my goodness".


1. Insettings, go to general, then keyboard.
2. Double tap on text replacement, which is the first item on my phone.
3. Double tap on add.
4. In the edit box, type the words you want.
5. Tab to shortcutt and type in the shortcut.

Remember when invoking the shortcut you type the 
abbreviation followed by a space; then double tap.

=
Apologies for the vague subject line.  My S E 
2020 is running IOS 13.7.  I know of an IOS 
feature which allows the user to write text and 
then invoke it with a very brief command.  So I 
guess you could call it a template.



Whenever I request Lyft or Uber, GPS takes the 
driver to a Safeway parking lot behind my 
house.  So I need to create a brief instructive 
text to send the driver in order to easily find 
my house.  Please tell me what this feature is 
called and specifically how to use it.



Thanks much.


Don Roberts


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when are they going to fix voiceover

[curmudgeon]

good morning people
how do I contact Apple support, issues I have with the phone now are, cannot 
use redial command it goes to the search and it feels and gets stuck, one 
finger flick right or left can’t get you out of the area you have to move your 
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RE: when are they going to fix voiceover

[Richard Turner]

You can write them at accessibil...@apple.com
Or call them at 877-204-3930




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good morning people
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RE: when are they going to fix voiceover

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

iOS 14.1 was just released with the focus bug supposedly being fixed. 
Downloading it now.
We'll see...

Cristóbal

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You can write them at accessibil...@apple.com Or call them at 877-204-3930




Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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good morning people
how do I contact Apple support, issues I have with the phone now are, cannot 
use redial command it goes to the search and it feels and gets stuck, one 
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finger down and then flipped left to get to the first message this happens when 
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IOS 14.1 is out

[Gordon]

I'm not sure if this applies to everyone or if it's just the 12, but 
you're all welcome to go see if you have it. If so, some bugs might have 
been fixed in this release.


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Re: IOS 14.1 is out

[Wayne Merritt]

For those interested, here are the AppleVis notes on VoiceOver fixes,
bugs, and general fixes.
Apple has today released iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 to the public.

For blind and low vision users, our preliminary testing suggests that
Apple has resolved the most critical issues present in the initial
releases of iOS and iPadOS 14. However, there are also a couple new
bugs in today's releases.

Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1
VoiceOver focus is no longer unstable in Safari webpages, HTML views,
and some apps.
VoiceOver speech no longer has a lag that made VoiceOver feel less
responsive when using some voices.
VoiceOver voices will no longer on occasions announce punctuation such
as apostrophes and quotation marks when they should not be spoken.
You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done button when
editing the App Library on iOS.
You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done and Add Widget
buttons when editing the Today View.
New Bugs for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1
When using the VoiceOver rotor to drag a widget on the Today View,
focus can spontaneously move to the Home screen and it is then not
possible to navigate back to the Today View
When editing a video in the Photos app, VoiceOver users can no longer
move the start and end positions on the time scrubber by flicking up
or down on them
With VoiceOver enabled, swiping from left to right with three fingers
in a folder takes you to the Today screen
Because iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 were not available to test before
today's release, we were not able to check for fixes, changes or
regressions ahead of time. Consequently, it is very likely that there
are additional fixes and possibly more new bugs.

Accordingly, If you encounter any additional fixes or bugs during your
own use of iOS 14.1 or iPadOS 14.1, please let us know by posting a
comment below.

iOS 14.1 Release Notes
Apple's release notes for iOS 14.1, shared by 9to5Mac, list the
following improvements:

Adds support for 10-bit HDR video playback and edit in Photos for
iPhone 8 and later
Addresses an issue where some widgets, folders, and icons were showing
up in reduced size on the Home Screen
Addresses an issue where dragging widgets on the Home Screen could
remove apps from folders
Fixes an issue where some emails in Mail were sent from an incorrect alias
Fixes an issue that could prevent incoming calls from displaying
region information
Fixes an issue on some devices where selecting zoomed display mode and
an alphanumeric passcode could result in the Lock Screen emergency
call button overlapping with the text input box
Addresses an issue where some users were occasionally unable to
download or add songs to their library while viewing an album or
playlist
Fixes an issue that could prevent zeroes from appearing in Calculator
Resolves an issue where streaming video resolution could temporarily
be reduced at the start of playback
Fixes an issue that prevented setting up a family member’s Apple Watch
for some users
Resolves an issue where the Apple Watch case material was displayed
incorrectly in the Apple Watch app
Addresses an issue in the Files app that could cause some MDM-managed
cloud service providers to incorrectly display content as unavailable
Improves compatibility with Ubiquiti wireless access points

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/20/20, Gordon  wrote:
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> you're all welcome to go see if you have it. If so, some bugs might have
> been fixed in this release.
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RE: IOS 14.1 is out

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

The focus bug does appear to be fixed (thank God), but it looks like the 
dictation and text editing bugs are still present.


Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 14.1 is out

For those interested, here are the AppleVis notes on VoiceOver fixes, bugs, and 
general fixes.
Apple has today released iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 to the public.

For blind and low vision users, our preliminary testing suggests that Apple has 
resolved the most critical issues present in the initial releases of iOS and 
iPadOS 14. However, there are also a couple new bugs in today's releases.

Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 VoiceOver 
focus is no longer unstable in Safari webpages, HTML views, and some apps.
VoiceOver speech no longer has a lag that made VoiceOver feel less responsive 
when using some voices.
VoiceOver voices will no longer on occasions announce punctuation such as 
apostrophes and quotation marks when they should not be spoken.
You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done button when editing the App 
Library on iOS.
You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done and Add Widget buttons when 
editing the Today View.
New Bugs for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 When using 
the VoiceOver rotor to drag a widget on the Today View, focus can spontaneously 
move to the Home screen and it is then not possible to navigate back to the 
Today View When editing a video in the Photos app, VoiceOver users can no 
longer move the start and end positions on the time scrubber by flicking up or 
down on them With VoiceOver enabled, swiping from left to right with three 
fingers in a folder takes you to the Today screen Because iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 
14.1 were not available to test before today's release, we were not able to 
check for fixes, changes or regressions ahead of time. Consequently, it is very 
likely that there are additional fixes and possibly more new bugs.

Accordingly, If you encounter any additional fixes or bugs during your own use 
of iOS 14.1 or iPadOS 14.1, please let us know by posting a comment below.

iOS 14.1 Release Notes
Apple's release notes for iOS 14.1, shared by 9to5Mac, list the following 
improvements:

Adds support for 10-bit HDR video playback and edit in Photos for iPhone 8 and 
later Addresses an issue where some widgets, folders, and icons were showing up 
in reduced size on the Home Screen Addresses an issue where dragging widgets on 
the Home Screen could remove apps from folders Fixes an issue where some emails 
in Mail were sent from an incorrect alias Fixes an issue that could prevent 
incoming calls from displaying region information Fixes an issue on some 
devices where selecting zoomed display mode and an alphanumeric passcode could 
result in the Lock Screen emergency call button overlapping with the text input 
box Addresses an issue where some users were occasionally unable to download or 
add songs to their library while viewing an album or playlist Fixes an issue 
that could prevent zeroes from appearing in Calculator Resolves an issue where 
streaming video resolution could temporarily be reduced at the start of 
playback Fixes an issue that prevented setting up a family member’s Apple Watch 
for some users Resolves an issue where the Apple Watch case material was 
displayed incorrectly in the Apple Watch app Addresses an issue in the Files 
app that could cause some MDM-managed cloud service providers to incorrectly 
display content as unavailable Improves compatibility with Ubiquiti wireless 
access points

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/20/20, Gordon  wrote:
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RE: IOS 14.1 is out

[Christopher Chaltain]

I’m downloading it now, but it's ironic that I hit the focus bug in the 
software updates screen, so it took some patience just to get the install going 
and then to monitor it's progress! 😉

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> Subject: RE: IOS 14.1 is out
> 
> The focus bug does appear to be fixed (thank God), but it looks like the 
> dictation
> and text editing bugs are still present.
> 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 14.1 is out
> 
> For those interested, here are the AppleVis notes on VoiceOver fixes, bugs, 
> and
> general fixes.
> Apple has today released iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 to the public.
> 
> For blind and low vision users, our preliminary testing suggests that Apple 
> has
> resolved the most critical issues present in the initial releases of iOS and 
> iPadOS
> 14. However, there are also a couple new bugs in today's releases.
> 
> Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 VoiceOver 
> focus
> is no longer unstable in Safari webpages, HTML views, and some apps.
> VoiceOver speech no longer has a lag that made VoiceOver feel less responsive
> when using some voices.
> VoiceOver voices will no longer on occasions announce punctuation such as
> apostrophes and quotation marks when they should not be spoken.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done button when editing the
> App Library on iOS.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done and Add Widget buttons
> when editing the Today View.
> New Bugs for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 When
> using the VoiceOver rotor to drag a widget on the Today View, focus can
> spontaneously move to the Home screen and it is then not possible to navigate
> back to the Today View When editing a video in the Photos app, VoiceOver users
> can no longer move the start and end positions on the time scrubber by 
> flicking
> up or down on them With VoiceOver enabled, swiping from left to right with
> three fingers in a folder takes you to the Today screen Because iOS 14.1 and
> iPadOS 14.1 were not available to test before today's release, we were not 
> able
> to check for fixes, changes or regressions ahead of time. Consequently, it is 
> very
> likely that there are additional fixes and possibly more new bugs.
> 
> Accordingly, If you encounter any additional fixes or bugs during your own use
> of iOS 14.1 or iPadOS 14.1, please let us know by posting a comment below.
> 
> iOS 14.1 Release Notes
> Apple's release notes for iOS 14.1, shared by 9to5Mac, list the following
> improvements:
> 
> Adds support for 10-bit HDR video playback and edit in Photos for iPhone 8 and
> later Addresses an issue where some widgets, folders, and icons were showing
> up in reduced size on the Home Screen Addresses an issue where dragging
> widgets on the Home Screen could remove apps from folders Fixes an issue
> where some emails in Mail were sent from an incorrect alias Fixes an issue 
> that
> could prevent incoming calls from displaying region information Fixes an issue
> on some devices where selecting zoomed display mode and an alphanumeric
> passcode could result in the Lock Screen emergency call button overlapping 
> with
> the text input box Addresses an issue where some users were occasionally
> unable to download or add songs to their library while viewing an album or
> playlist Fixes an issue that could prevent zeroes from appearing in Calculator
> Resolves an issue where streaming video resolution could temporarily be
> reduced at the start of playback Fixes an issue that prevented setting up a 
> family
> member’s Apple Watch for some users Resolves an issue where the Apple Watch
> case material was displayed incorrectly in the Apple Watch app Addresses an
> issue in the Files app that could cause some MDM-managed cloud service
> providers to incorrectly display content as unavailable Improves compatibility
> with Ubiquiti wireless access points
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
> On 10/20/20, Gordon  wrote:
> > I'm not sure if this applies to everyone or if it's just the 12, but
> > you're all welcome to go see if you have it. If so, some bugs might
> > have been fixed in this release.
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Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

[Mary Otten]

My Siri tone as well as the voice which answers questions is way down after I 
just installed 14.1. I have restarted my phone twice to  know avail. Other 
tones, such as the tone for when the mail comes in, are not affected. Voiceover 
volume is fine. But Siri voice and Siri tone are so quiet I really can’t hear 
them. The tone for dictation is also affected.



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RE: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

[Richard Turner]

Get Siri talking and start tapping the up volume to get it back to the volume 
you want.
It should, note I said should, remember that level after that.



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Subject: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

My Siri tone as well as the voice which answers questions is way down after I 
just installed 14.1. I have restarted my phone twice to  know avail. Other 
tones, such as the tone for when the mail comes in, are not affected. Voiceover 
volume is fine. But Siri voice and Siri tone are so quiet I really can’t hear 
them. The tone for dictation is also affected.



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Re: Connecting Alexa to Multiple iDevices Via Bluetooth?

[Traci Duncan]

As far as I know, Alexa can only remain connected to one device at a time. If 
your iPhone is connected, I believe it’ll disconnect, if you connect another 
device.



> On Oct 20, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> I mean that the active device would remain one only but can it remain 
> connected to more than one device?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:33 AM
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>  
> Do you mean at the same time? If so, the answer is no. You can have any of 
> your iDevices connect via bluetooth to Alexa, but one at a time.
>  
> The thing I wish they’d add to Alexa is asking to connect to a specific 
> device. Alexa, connect to Dave’s iPhone, or Alexa connect to Marcy’s iPad. 
> Alexa only remembers the last device connected.
>  
> Traci
>  
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Fazil > > wrote:
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>> Hi, Group!
>> Can I Connect Alexa to Multiple iDevices Via Bluetooth?
>> Thanks!
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Re: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, richard! I guess I didn’t even think of that, because all other volume 
levels were normal. Go figure.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Get Siri talking and start tapping the up volume to get it back to the 
> volume you want.
> It should, note I said should, remember that level after that.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
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> Otten
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> 
> My Siri tone as well as the voice which answers questions is way down after I 
> just installed 14.1. I have restarted my phone twice to  know avail. Other 
> tones, such as the tone for when the mail comes in, are not affected. 
> Voiceover volume is fine. But Siri voice and Siri tone are so quiet I really 
> can’t hear them. The tone for dictation is also affected.
> 
> 
> 
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I think I'll need to send my iPhone in for repairs, my 2 bottom speakers won't output at all

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I
unplugged my iPhone from recharging.  I stopped using a bluetooth
speaker and I just found out that the bottom speakers on my iPhone 8
have no sound coming from them at all.  I went into audio settings and
turned mono audio off and on again.  However, when I tested the
balance control, I had the wright speakers all the way to 100% and no
sound came from then at all.  Just the speaker on the top of my
iPhone.  I turned my iPhone off and on again.  I have no idea what
happened.  This is very frustrating.  I've got apple accessibility on
hold now.  Does anyone have any other suggestions?
-- 
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VoiceOver Switched to British English After Upgrading to 14.1

[Fazil]

Hi, Group.

VoiceOver in My iPhone8 has switched to British English after upgrading to
14.1. I want it back to US-English. How can I do that, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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Re: I think I'll need to send my iPhone in for repairs, my 2 bottom speakers won't output at all

[Marty Hutchings]

I've got an iPhone 8 and it only has one speaker on the bottom.  The other 
grill is for a microphone.  My top speaker does sound scratchy, so I would 
like to know if there is anything that can be done for it.




Love in Christ
Marty
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fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I think I'll need to send my iPhone in for repairs, my 2 bottom 
speakers won't output at all


Hi to all.  I
unplugged my iPhone from recharging.  I stopped using a bluetooth
speaker and I just found out that the bottom speakers on my iPhone 8
have no sound coming from them at all.  I went into audio settings and
turned mono audio off and on again.  However, when I tested the
balance control, I had the wright speakers all the way to 100% and no
sound came from then at all.  Just the speaker on the top of my
iPhone.  I turned my iPhone off and on again.  I have no idea what
happened.  This is very frustrating.  I've got apple accessibility on
hold now.  Does anyone have any other suggestions?
--
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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RE: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

[Richard Turner]

I updated my 1st generation iPhone SE to 14.1 and the Siri volume did not 
change.

I guess I was lucky.




Richard
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Subject: RE: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

Get Siri talking and start tapping the up volume to get it back to the volume 
you want.
It should, note I said should, remember that level after that.



Richard
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Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:26 PM
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Subject: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

My Siri tone as well as the voice which answers questions is way down after I 
just installed 14.1. I have restarted my phone twice to  know avail. Other 
tones, such as the tone for when the mail comes in, are not affected. Voiceover 
volume is fine. But Siri voice and Siri tone are so quiet I really can’t hear 
them. The tone for dictation is also affected.



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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

could someone please explain how this could be done within garage band? I 
really do not like to interact with iTunes, and have not used iTunes in the 
last four or five years.
Thanks in advance. Keith

> On Oct 20, 2020, at 11:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> It works quite well.  I have sometimes managed to copy more then one
> ringtone to my Iphone, however, Richard is correct that it will
> probably work better if you do one at a time.  It is quite easy once
> you have practiced it a bit.  I'm glad I now know how to copy
> ringtones to my phone using Itunes.
> 
>> On 10/20/20, Shirley Healy  wrote:
>> Thanks for those instructions Richard. I will try that. I've never tried
>> copying tones over before this will be a first for me.
>> shirley
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Richard Turner
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:52 PM
>>  Subject: RE: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020
>> 
>> 
>>  As Klyph said, you need to use iTunes or Garage Band.
>> 
>>  I personally find iTunes a bit easier.
>> 
>>  Connect your phone to the computer with the cable.
>> 
>>  Open iTunes.
>> 
>>  Select your phone.
>> 
>>  Tab to the treeview that may or may not read well at first.
>> 
>>  Press t until you hear Tones.
>> 
>>  Tab to the list of tones.
>> 
>>  Then, on the computer, navigate to the tones and I recommend doing one at
>> a time.
>> 
>>  Copy the m4r file with control+c and alt-tab back to iTunes and press
>> control+v
>> 
>>  You should hear a tone that confirms it was copied.
>> 
>>  Repeat for all the tones you want to add.
>> 
>>  Then, you should find them in the Sound settings.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Richard
>> 
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>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
>> Herbert
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Live long and prosper 🖖
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Dan
>>  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:36 AM
>>  To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
>>  Subject: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  I have some ring tones I want to save to my SE.  I attached them to an
>> email an then opened that email on my SE.  I can't see any way to save the
>> attachments to the phone now.  What am I missing?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: IOS 14.1 is out

[Tom Lange]

I hope they fixed the volume bug;  that is a real pain in the arse.

> On Oct 20, 2020, at 1:16 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I’m downloading it now, but it's ironic that I hit the focus bug in the 
> software updates screen, so it took some patience just to get the install 
> going and then to monitor it's progress! 😉
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Cristóbal Muñoz
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: IOS 14.1 is out
>> 
>> The focus bug does appear to be fixed (thank God), but it looks like the 
>> dictation
>> and text editing bugs are still present.
>> 
>> 
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 14.1 is out
>> 
>> For those interested, here are the AppleVis notes on VoiceOver fixes, bugs, 
>> and
>> general fixes.
>> Apple has today released iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 to the public.
>> 
>> For blind and low vision users, our preliminary testing suggests that Apple 
>> has
>> resolved the most critical issues present in the initial releases of iOS and 
>> iPadOS
>> 14. However, there are also a couple new bugs in today's releases.
>> 
>> Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 VoiceOver 
>> focus
>> is no longer unstable in Safari webpages, HTML views, and some apps.
>> VoiceOver speech no longer has a lag that made VoiceOver feel less responsive
>> when using some voices.
>> VoiceOver voices will no longer on occasions announce punctuation such as
>> apostrophes and quotation marks when they should not be spoken.
>> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done button when editing the
>> App Library on iOS.
>> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done and Add Widget buttons
>> when editing the Today View.
>> New Bugs for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 When
>> using the VoiceOver rotor to drag a widget on the Today View, focus can
>> spontaneously move to the Home screen and it is then not possible to navigate
>> back to the Today View When editing a video in the Photos app, VoiceOver 
>> users
>> can no longer move the start and end positions on the time scrubber by 
>> flicking
>> up or down on them With VoiceOver enabled, swiping from left to right with
>> three fingers in a folder takes you to the Today screen Because iOS 14.1 and
>> iPadOS 14.1 were not available to test before today's release, we were not 
>> able
>> to check for fixes, changes or regressions ahead of time. Consequently, it 
>> is very
>> likely that there are additional fixes and possibly more new bugs.
>> 
>> Accordingly, If you encounter any additional fixes or bugs during your own 
>> use
>> of iOS 14.1 or iPadOS 14.1, please let us know by posting a comment below.
>> 
>> iOS 14.1 Release Notes
>> Apple's release notes for iOS 14.1, shared by 9to5Mac, list the following
>> improvements:
>> 
>> Adds support for 10-bit HDR video playback and edit in Photos for iPhone 8 
>> and
>> later Addresses an issue where some widgets, folders, and icons were showing
>> up in reduced size on the Home Screen Addresses an issue where dragging
>> widgets on the Home Screen could remove apps from folders Fixes an issue
>> where some emails in Mail were sent from an incorrect alias Fixes an issue 
>> that
>> could prevent incoming calls from displaying region information Fixes an 
>> issue
>> on some devices where selecting zoomed display mode and an alphanumeric
>> passcode could result in the Lock Screen emergency call button overlapping 
>> with
>> the text input box Addresses an issue where some users were occasionally
>> unable to download or add songs to their library while viewing an album or
>> playlist Fixes an issue that could prevent zeroes from appearing in 
>> Calculator
>> Resolves an issue where streaming video resolution could temporarily be
>> reduced at the start of playback Fixes an issue that prevented setting up a 
>> family
>> member’s Apple Watch for some users Resolves an issue where the Apple Watch
>> case material was displayed incorrectly in the Apple Watch app Addresses an
>> issue in the Files app that could cause some MDM-managed cloud service
>> providers to incorrectly display content as unavailable Improves 
>> compatibility
>> with Ubiquiti wireless access points
>> 
>> Be well,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>>> On 10/20/20, Gordon  wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if this applies to everyone or if it's just the 12, but
>>> you're all welcome to go see if you have it. If so, some bugs might
>>> have been fixed in this release.
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RE: I think I'll need to send my iPhone in for repairs, my 2 bottom speakers won't output at all

[Alan Lemly]

Joshua,

Since you use a lot of Bluetooth speakers, I'd suggest you open control center 
by placing focus on the time or something else in the status bar and doing a 3 
finger swipe up. Swipe until you reach Bluetooth and turn it off. After doing 
that, see if you notice any difference in your iPhone speakers. You might keep 
a set of wired earphones handy in case you get no sound.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I think I'll need to send my iPhone in for repairs, my 2 bottom 
speakers won't output at all

Hi to all.  I
unplugged my iPhone from recharging.  I stopped using a bluetooth speaker and I 
just found out that the bottom speakers on my iPhone 8 have no sound coming 
from them at all.  I went into audio settings and turned mono audio off and on 
again.  However, when I tested the balance control, I had the wright speakers 
all the way to 100% and no sound came from then at all.  Just the speaker on 
the top of my iPhone.  I turned my iPhone off and on again.  I have no idea 
what happened.  This is very frustrating.  I've got apple accessibility on hold 
now.  Does anyone have any other suggestions?
--
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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ITunes question

[jasmine5802]

Hello Everyone, 

Is there a way to download multiple files from I Cloud to the computer in I
Tunes? I have my music library that I uploaded to my I Cloud to listen to it
through Apple music on my I Phone and I Pod. It let's me download my music
to my I Tunes library on my computer one by one, but I can't find how to
download it all at once. 

Thanks!

Virginia

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RE: IOS 14.1 is out

[Carolyn]

My install took patience. It seemed to take quite a while. 

Someone suggested getting Full Screen on another list. I can't understand 
where, someone said in phone, someone said Accessibility, someone said, "below 
Siri," I looked in Siri and below, as well as the others mentioned. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 14.1 is out

I’m downloading it now, but it's ironic that I hit the focus bug in the 
software updates screen, so it took some patience just to get the install going 
and then to monitor it's progress! 😉

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 3:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS 14.1 is out
> 
> The focus bug does appear to be fixed (thank God), but it looks like 
> the dictation and text editing bugs are still present.
> 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 14.1 is out
> 
> For those interested, here are the AppleVis notes on VoiceOver fixes, 
> bugs, and general fixes.
> Apple has today released iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 to the public.
> 
> For blind and low vision users, our preliminary testing suggests that 
> Apple has resolved the most critical issues present in the initial 
> releases of iOS and iPadOS 14. However, there are also a couple new bugs in 
> today's releases.
> 
> Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 
> VoiceOver focus is no longer unstable in Safari webpages, HTML views, and 
> some apps.
> VoiceOver speech no longer has a lag that made VoiceOver feel less 
> responsive when using some voices.
> VoiceOver voices will no longer on occasions announce punctuation such 
> as apostrophes and quotation marks when they should not be spoken.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done button when 
> editing the App Library on iOS.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done and Add Widget 
> buttons when editing the Today View.
> New Bugs for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 
> When using the VoiceOver rotor to drag a widget on the Today View, 
> focus can spontaneously move to the Home screen and it is then not 
> possible to navigate back to the Today View When editing a video in 
> the Photos app, VoiceOver users can no longer move the start and end 
> positions on the time scrubber by flicking up or down on them With 
> VoiceOver enabled, swiping from left to right with three fingers in a 
> folder takes you to the Today screen Because iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 
> were not available to test before today's release, we were not able to 
> check for fixes, changes or regressions ahead of time. Consequently, it is 
> very likely that there are additional fixes and possibly more new bugs.
> 
> Accordingly, If you encounter any additional fixes or bugs during your 
> own use of iOS 14.1 or iPadOS 14.1, please let us know by posting a comment 
> below.
> 
> iOS 14.1 Release Notes
> Apple's release notes for iOS 14.1, shared by 9to5Mac, list the 
> following
> improvements:
> 
> Adds support for 10-bit HDR video playback and edit in Photos for 
> iPhone 8 and later Addresses an issue where some widgets, folders, and 
> icons were showing up in reduced size on the Home Screen Addresses an 
> issue where dragging widgets on the Home Screen could remove apps from 
> folders Fixes an issue where some emails in Mail were sent from an 
> incorrect alias Fixes an issue that could prevent incoming calls from 
> displaying region information Fixes an issue on some devices where 
> selecting zoomed display mode and an alphanumeric passcode could 
> result in the Lock Screen emergency call button overlapping with the 
> text input box Addresses an issue where some users were occasionally 
> unable to download or add songs to their library while viewing an 
> album or playlist Fixes an issue that could prevent zeroes from 
> appearing in Calculator Resolves an issue where streaming video 
> resolution could temporarily be reduced at the start of playback Fixes 
> an issue that prevented setting up a family member’s Apple Watch for 
> some users Resolves an issue where the Apple Watch case material was 
> displayed incorrectly in the Apple Watch app Addresses an issue in the 
> Files app that could cause some MDM-managed cloud service providers to 
> incorrectly display content as unavailable Improves compatibility with 
> Ubiquiti wireless access points
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
> On 10/20/20, Gordon  wrote:
> > I'm not sure if this applies to everyone or if it's just the 12, but 
> > you're all welcome to go see if you have it. If so, some bugs might 
> > have been fixed i

RE: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

[Carolyn]

Neither did mine. 

Interesting that Today is gone, so now the Home Page is Page 1. 

Tell me, please, what would I do to create back taps, and how many are allowed, 
please? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

I updated my 1st generation iPhone SE to 14.1 and the Siri volume did not 
change.

I guess I was lucky.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖 

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

Get Siri talking and start tapping the up volume to get it back to the volume 
you want.
It should, note I said should, remember that level after that.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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Otten
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Subject: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

My Siri tone as well as the voice which answers questions is way down after I 
just installed 14.1. I have restarted my phone twice to  know avail. Other 
tones, such as the tone for when the mail comes in, are not affected. Voiceover 
volume is fine. But Siri voice and Siri tone are so quiet I really can’t hear 
them. The tone for dictation is also affected.



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RE: I think I'll need to send my iPhone in for repairs, my 2 bottom speakers won't output at all

[Carolyn]

You know, now that you mention Bluetooth, when I updated, it came on to 
Bluetooth in my hearing aids. I just told Siri to turn it off, as I did not 
want it, and Siri turned off Bluetooth. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I think I'll need to send my iPhone in for repairs, my 2 bottom 
speakers won't output at all

Joshua,

Since you use a lot of Bluetooth speakers, I'd suggest you open control center 
by placing focus on the time or something else in the status bar and doing a 3 
finger swipe up. Swipe until you reach Bluetooth and turn it off. After doing 
that, see if you notice any difference in your iPhone speakers. You might keep 
a set of wired earphones handy in case you get no sound.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: I think I'll need to send my iPhone in for repairs, my 2 bottom 
speakers won't output at all

Hi to all.  I
unplugged my iPhone from recharging.  I stopped using a bluetooth speaker and I 
just found out that the bottom speakers on my iPhone 8 have no sound coming 
from them at all.  I went into audio settings and turned mono audio off and on 
again.  However, when I tested the balance control, I had the wright speakers 
all the way to 100% and no sound came from then at all.  Just the speaker on 
the top of my iPhone.  I turned my iPhone off and on again.  I have no idea 
what happened.  This is very frustrating.  I've got apple accessibility on hold 
now.  Does anyone have any other suggestions?
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RE: IOS 14.1 is out

[Carolyn]

Where is the Today View? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 14.1 is out

For those interested, here are the AppleVis notes on VoiceOver fixes, bugs, and 
general fixes.
Apple has today released iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 to the public.

For blind and low vision users, our preliminary testing suggests that Apple has 
resolved the most critical issues present in the initial releases of iOS and 
iPadOS 14. However, there are also a couple new bugs in today's releases.

Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 VoiceOver 
focus is no longer unstable in Safari webpages, HTML views, and some apps.
VoiceOver speech no longer has a lag that made VoiceOver feel less responsive 
when using some voices.
VoiceOver voices will no longer on occasions announce punctuation such as 
apostrophes and quotation marks when they should not be spoken.
You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done button when editing the App 
Library on iOS.
You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done and Add Widget buttons when 
editing the Today View.
New Bugs for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 When using 
the VoiceOver rotor to drag a widget on the Today View, focus can spontaneously 
move to the Home screen and it is then not possible to navigate back to the 
Today View When editing a video in the Photos app, VoiceOver users can no 
longer move the start and end positions on the time scrubber by flicking up or 
down on them With VoiceOver enabled, swiping from left to right with three 
fingers in a folder takes you to the Today screen Because iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 
14.1 were not available to test before today's release, we were not able to 
check for fixes, changes or regressions ahead of time. Consequently, it is very 
likely that there are additional fixes and possibly more new bugs.

Accordingly, If you encounter any additional fixes or bugs during your own use 
of iOS 14.1 or iPadOS 14.1, please let us know by posting a comment below.

iOS 14.1 Release Notes
Apple's release notes for iOS 14.1, shared by 9to5Mac, list the following 
improvements:

Adds support for 10-bit HDR video playback and edit in Photos for iPhone 8 and 
later Addresses an issue where some widgets, folders, and icons were showing up 
in reduced size on the Home Screen Addresses an issue where dragging widgets on 
the Home Screen could remove apps from folders Fixes an issue where some emails 
in Mail were sent from an incorrect alias Fixes an issue that could prevent 
incoming calls from displaying region information Fixes an issue on some 
devices where selecting zoomed display mode and an alphanumeric passcode could 
result in the Lock Screen emergency call button overlapping with the text input 
box Addresses an issue where some users were occasionally unable to download or 
add songs to their library while viewing an album or playlist Fixes an issue 
that could prevent zeroes from appearing in Calculator Resolves an issue where 
streaming video resolution could temporarily be reduced at the start of 
playback Fixes an issue that prevented setting up a family member’s Apple Watch 
for some users Resolves an issue where the Apple Watch case material was 
displayed incorrectly in the Apple Watch app Addresses an issue in the Files 
app that could cause some MDM-managed cloud service providers to incorrectly 
display content as unavailable Improves compatibility with Ubiquiti wireless 
access points

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/20/20, Gordon  wrote:
> I'm not sure if this applies to everyone or if it's just the 12, but 
> you're all welcome to go see if you have it. If so, some bugs might 
> have been fixed in this release.
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RE: Has anyone used Uber lately?

[Edward Przybylek]

Hi,

When I use the Uber app and get to the page that has the confirm and ride 
button, I set focus to the dimmed confirm and ride button, flick left twice to 
the line that states I'm wearing a mask and double tap it.  This enables the 
ride and confirm button which can then be double tapped to complete the ride 
order.  Hope this helps.

Take care,
Ed Przybylek


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Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has anyone used Uber lately?

Yes I have had trouble confirming a ride. I can’t activate that button with 
voice over. I ended up taking Lyft instead because I wasn’t able to book a ride 
with Uber.

> On Oct 18, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> All I know is that when I double tapped on confirm ride repeatedly, nothing 
> happened. When I gave my phone to a friend, he said there was a box that had 
> to be checked. Admittedly maybe he was thinking of the button.. so, has 
> anyone had trouble with confirming the ride so that you get the messages 
> about when your driver is coming, etc.?
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Holly  wrote:
>> 
>> Kathy:
>> 
>> Are you sure there is a check box?  I think it is just a statement, like 
>> washing your hands and sitting in the back.
>> 
>> I think it means that these things are required. 
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Re: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

[Richard Turner]

Go to settings, Accessibility, Touch, and the last item is BackTap.
You can turn it on, then define two gestures: a double backtap, and a triple 
backtap.




Richard
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others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Oct 20, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Neither did mine.

Interesting that Today is gone, so now the Home Page is Page 1.

Tell me, please, what would I do to create back taps, and how many are allowed, 
please?

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Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

I updated my 1st generation iPhone SE to 14.1 and the Siri volume did not 
change.

I guess I was lucky.




Richard
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Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Get Siri talking and start tapping the up volume to get it back to the volume 
you want.
It should, note I said should, remember that level after that.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:26 PM
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

My Siri tone as well as the voice which answers questions is way down after I 
just installed 14.1. I have restarted my phone twice to  know avail. Other 
tones, such as the tone for when the mail comes in, are not affected. Voiceover 
volume is fine. But Siri voice and Siri tone are so quiet I really can’t hear 
them. The tone for dictation is also affected.



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RE: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

[Doug Sloan]

Hi

 

I’ve just updated to 14.1 now the volume of VO after making a call to the bank 
is very low when trying to use the keypad how can I ajust the volume?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 21 October 2020 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

 

Go to settings, Accessibility, Touch, and the last item is BackTap. 

You can turn it on, then define two gestures: a double backtap, and a triple 
backtap.

 

 

 

Richard

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On Oct 20, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:

Neither did mine. 

Interesting that Today is gone, so now the Home Page is Page 1. 

Tell me, please, what would I do to create back taps, and how many are allowed, 
please? 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

I updated my 1st generation iPhone SE to 14.1 and the Siri volume did not 
change.

I guess I was lucky.




Richard
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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

Get Siri talking and start tapping the up volume to get it back to the volume 
you want.
It should, note I said should, remember that level after that.



Richard
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Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:26 PM
To: VIPhone via mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Siri volume is way down after installing 14.1

My Siri tone as well as the voice which answers questions is way down after I 
just installed 14.1. I have restarted my phone twice to  know avail. Other 
tones, such as the tone for when the mail comes in, are not affected. Voiceover 
volume is fine. But Siri voice and Siri tone are so quiet I really can’t hear 
them. The tone for dictation is also affected.



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Re: Unable to fill in a two column when sending email

[TaraPrakash]

If you want to send a completely blank message, the workaround is type a letter 
in subject field and then delete it.   As long as you have a correct address,  
you can then be able to activate the send button. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:06 PM, Dulce Weisenborn  wrote:
> 
> Why is it that I cannot just type in the address where I want an email to go 
> without first adding contact to the mix? I would like, for example, to 
> unsubscribe from this list from my Google account since I am also receiving 
> messages from my personal account. I am not able to do that unless I add the 
> unsubscribe address to my contacts first. Is there a fix for this? I hope I 
> am being clear.
> 
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Re: Has anyone used Uber lately?

[Kathy Brandt]

Yes, this and other feedback help; thanks very much. I had four trips today. 
Otherwise, I figured out that if I go to the trip in question in trips and go 
through the rating process in there, I can write compliments, which seems to 
have been taken away when immediately rating and tipping after the ride.

> On Oct 20, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Edward Przybylek  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When I use the Uber app and get to the page that has the confirm and ride 
> button, I set focus to the dimmed confirm and ride button, flick left twice 
> to the line that states I'm wearing a mask and double tap it.  This enables 
> the ride and confirm button which can then be double tapped to complete the 
> ride order.  Hope this helps.
> 
> Take care,
> Ed Przybylek
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 4:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Has anyone used Uber lately?
> 
> Yes I have had trouble confirming a ride. I can’t activate that button with 
> voice over. I ended up taking Lyft instead because I wasn’t able to book a 
> ride with Uber.
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>> 
>> All I know is that when I double tapped on confirm ride repeatedly, nothing 
>> happened. When I gave my phone to a friend, he said there was a box that had 
>> to be checked. Admittedly maybe he was thinking of the button.. so, has 
>> anyone had trouble with confirming the ride so that you get the messages 
>> about when your driver is coming, etc.?
>> 
 On Oct 18, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Holly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kathy:
>>> 
>>> Are you sure there is a check box?  I think it is just a statement, like 
>>> washing your hands and sitting in the back.
>>> 
>>> I think it means that these things are required. 
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Re: Has anyone used Uber lately?

[Holly]

I have just started using Uber.  When I finished my ride last week, I 
doubled tapped on 'add a tip', but just went to the rating page.  I couldn't 
see where to enter the tip.


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I can use my Focus braille display to send texts in 14.1!

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

As far as I can tell, 14.1 has restored the use of writing with my Focus 40 
Blue 5th Gen display. I was going to ask if it was fixed, but I decided to find 
out for myself. I successfully unlocked my iPhone X. I entered my unlock code, 
and it worked well, although audible feedback could have been better. I then 
sent a text, and there was no problem at all. I'm happy. I can once again 
really use my Focus.

Just letting folks know.

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Keith,

It really is not difficult using iTunes. As Richard explained, you connect your 
iPhone, open iTunes and find your iPhone. I usually press Control + F which 
takes me to the search box in iTunes, then it's I believe just one tab to get 
to the iPhone button. You activate it, press tab a few times to get into the 
treeview and arrow down to Tones, again two or three tabs to get into the list 
of tones and from there it's simply copy and paste just as you would copy and 
paste any file from one folder to another. 

-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020

could someone please explain how this could be done within garage band? I 
really do not like to interact with iTunes, and have not used iTunes in the 
last four or five years.
Thanks in advance. Keith

> On Oct 20, 2020, at 11:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> It works quite well.  I have sometimes managed to copy more then one 
> ringtone to my Iphone, however, Richard is correct that it will 
> probably work better if you do one at a time.  It is quite easy once 
> you have practiced it a bit.  I'm glad I now know how to copy 
> ringtones to my phone using Itunes.
> 
>> On 10/20/20, Shirley Healy  wrote:
>> Thanks for those instructions Richard. I will try that. I've never 
>> tried copying tones over before this will be a first for me.
>> shirley
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Richard Turner
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:52 PM
>>  Subject: RE: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020
>> 
>> 
>>  As Klyph said, you need to use iTunes or Garage Band.
>> 
>>  I personally find iTunes a bit easier.
>> 
>>  Connect your phone to the computer with the cable.
>> 
>>  Open iTunes.
>> 
>>  Select your phone.
>> 
>>  Tab to the treeview that may or may not read well at first.
>> 
>>  Press t until you hear Tones.
>> 
>>  Tab to the list of tones.
>> 
>>  Then, on the computer, navigate to the tones and I recommend doing 
>> one at a time.
>> 
>>  Copy the m4r file with control+c and alt-tab back to iTunes and 
>> press
>> control+v
>> 
>>  You should hear a tone that confirms it was copied.
>> 
>>  Repeat for all the tones you want to add.
>> 
>>  Then, you should find them in the Sound settings.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Richard
>> 
>>  "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Live long and prosper 🖖
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Dan
>>  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:36 AM
>>  To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
>>  Subject: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  I have some ring tones I want to save to my SE.  I attached them to 
>> an email an then opened that email on my SE.  I can't see any way to 
>> save the attachments to the phone now.  What am I missing?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020

[Joshua Hendrickson]

It really is very easy and kind of fun as well.

On 10/20/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> It really is not difficult using iTunes. As Richard explained, you connect
> your iPhone, open iTunes and find your iPhone. I usually press Control + F
> which takes me to the search box in iTunes, then it's I believe just one tab
> to get to the iPhone button. You activate it, press tab a few times to get
> into the treeview and arrow down to Tones, again two or three tabs to get
> into the list of tones and from there it's simply copy and paste just as you
> would copy and paste any file from one folder to another.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020
>
> could someone please explain how this could be done within garage band? I
> really do not like to interact with iTunes, and have not used iTunes in the
> last four or five years.
> Thanks in advance. Keith
>
>> On Oct 20, 2020, at 11:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It works quite well.  I have sometimes managed to copy more then one
>> ringtone to my Iphone, however, Richard is correct that it will
>> probably work better if you do one at a time.  It is quite easy once
>> you have practiced it a bit.  I'm glad I now know how to copy
>> ringtones to my phone using Itunes.
>>
>>> On 10/20/20, Shirley Healy  wrote:
>>> Thanks for those instructions Richard. I will try that. I've never
>>> tried copying tones over before this will be a first for me.
>>> shirley
>>>  - Original Message -
>>>  From: Richard Turner
>>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:52 PM
>>>  Subject: RE: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020
>>>
>>>
>>>  As Klyph said, you need to use iTunes or Garage Band.
>>>
>>>  I personally find iTunes a bit easier.
>>>
>>>  Connect your phone to the computer with the cable.
>>>
>>>  Open iTunes.
>>>
>>>  Select your phone.
>>>
>>>  Tab to the treeview that may or may not read well at first.
>>>
>>>  Press t until you hear Tones.
>>>
>>>  Tab to the list of tones.
>>>
>>>  Then, on the computer, navigate to the tones and I recommend doing
>>> one at a time.
>>>
>>>  Copy the m4r file with control+c and alt-tab back to iTunes and
>>> press
>>> control+v
>>>
>>>  You should hear a tone that confirms it was copied.
>>>
>>>  Repeat for all the tones you want to add.
>>>
>>>  Then, you should find them in the Sound settings.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  HTH,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Richard
>>>
>>>  "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Live long and prosper 🖖
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Dan
>>>  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:36 AM
>>>  To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
>>>  Subject: how do I save ring tones to my Iphone SE 2020
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I have some ring tones I want to save to my SE.  I attached them to
>>> an email an then opened that email on my SE.  I can't see any way to
>>> save the attachments to the phone now.  What am I missing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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question about backing up your iPhone via Itunes

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I had told you all in a previous message that the bottom
speaker of my iPhone 8 just went out today for no reason.  I asked
about sending my iPhone back for repairs as I've got apple care for
$200 and still have quite a bit of time left on it.  Is it true if I
send my iPhone back for repairs, they want me to completely wipe my
iPhone clean?  If this is true, my iPhone isn't going anywhere.  I
couldn't get all my bard books back on my iPhone if I wanted.  I do
intend of getting a high capacity SD card that is a 256 gig SD card
for about $40 and downloading or copying all the books from my iPhone
to this SD card so I at least have the books.  Is it hard to do a
backup via iTunes?  Is it better to use icloud?  Don't you have to
have a lot of money to pay for gigs of space on ICLOUD?  Thanks for
any help.

-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson

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Re: IOS 14.1 is out

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

VoiceOver focus still jumps up the list when deleting threads in Mail on iPhone 
SE 2020
Harry

> On 20 Oct 2020, at 21:23, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> The focus bug does appear to be fixed (thank God), but it looks like the 
> dictation and text editing bugs are still present.
> 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 14.1 is out
> 
> For those interested, here are the AppleVis notes on VoiceOver fixes, bugs, 
> and general fixes.
> Apple has today released iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 to the public.
> 
> For blind and low vision users, our preliminary testing suggests that Apple 
> has resolved the most critical issues present in the initial releases of iOS 
> and iPadOS 14. However, there are also a couple new bugs in today's releases.
> 
> Fixes for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 VoiceOver 
> focus is no longer unstable in Safari webpages, HTML views, and some apps.
> VoiceOver speech no longer has a lag that made VoiceOver feel less responsive 
> when using some voices.
> VoiceOver voices will no longer on occasions announce punctuation such as 
> apostrophes and quotation marks when they should not be spoken.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done button when editing the 
> App Library on iOS.
> You can now consistently locate by swiping the Done and Add Widget buttons 
> when editing the Today View.
> New Bugs for Blind and Low Vision Users in iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 When 
> using the VoiceOver rotor to drag a widget on the Today View, focus can 
> spontaneously move to the Home screen and it is then not possible to navigate 
> back to the Today View When editing a video in the Photos app, VoiceOver 
> users can no longer move the start and end positions on the time scrubber by 
> flicking up or down on them With VoiceOver enabled, swiping from left to 
> right with three fingers in a folder takes you to the Today screen Because 
> iOS 14.1 and iPadOS 14.1 were not available to test before today's release, 
> we were not able to check for fixes, changes or regressions ahead of time. 
> Consequently, it is very likely that there are additional fixes and possibly 
> more new bugs.
> 
> Accordingly, If you encounter any additional fixes or bugs during your own 
> use of iOS 14.1 or iPadOS 14.1, please let us know by posting a comment below.
> 
> iOS 14.1 Release Notes
> Apple's release notes for iOS 14.1, shared by 9to5Mac, list the following 
> improvements:
> 
> Adds support for 10-bit HDR video playback and edit in Photos for iPhone 8 
> and later Addresses an issue where some widgets, folders, and icons were 
> showing up in reduced size on the Home Screen Addresses an issue where 
> dragging widgets on the Home Screen could remove apps from folders Fixes an 
> issue where some emails in Mail were sent from an incorrect alias Fixes an 
> issue that could prevent incoming calls from displaying region information 
> Fixes an issue on some devices where selecting zoomed display mode and an 
> alphanumeric passcode could result in the Lock Screen emergency call button 
> overlapping with the text input box Addresses an issue where some users were 
> occasionally unable to download or add songs to their library while viewing 
> an album or playlist Fixes an issue that could prevent zeroes from appearing 
> in Calculator Resolves an issue where streaming video resolution could 
> temporarily be reduced at the start of playback Fixes an issue that prevented 
> setting up a family member’s Apple Watch for some users Resolves an issue 
> where the Apple Watch case material was displayed incorrectly in the Apple 
> Watch app Addresses an issue in the Files app that could cause some 
> MDM-managed cloud service providers to incorrectly display content as 
> unavailable Improves compatibility with Ubiquiti wireless access points
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 10/20/20, Gordon  wrote:
>> I'm not sure if this applies to everyone or if it's just the 12, but 
>> you're all welcome to go see if you have it. If so, some bugs might 
>> have been fixed in this release.
>> 
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