RE: Scanning money

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And there also is the Seeing AI app which is free and has a currency channel.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scanning money


In the previous messages I do not think anyone mentioned that EyeNote is for 
only US currency. Cash reader is for a large number of currencies.

Here is the info on it.

Cash Reader is free to download. The free version limits the identification to 
the lowest two banknotes for each currency.
Full version identifies all banknotes for the growing number of currencies. You 
can purchase the Full version within the app at any time.
See the app store page for updated currencies and languages.
Cash Reader on the App 
Store

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cash-reader-bill-identifier/id1344802905




Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On May 4, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

This is info from my web site:
EyeNote money identifier from Bureau of Engraving and Printing, Free

As of January 22, 2018, the updated EyeNote. 3.0 app is now 64-bit and works on 
Apple mobile devices that support iOS version 9.1 or greater. These include 
Apple iPhone. 5 and newer models, 5th generation iPod. Touch and later 
generations, and iPad.2 and newer models.

  *   Utilizes VoiceOver for vocal and gesture feedback if it is turned on for 
the target iOS device.
  *   Privacy mode communicates results with an audible beep or pulse pattern.
  *   Runs without any special filters or background material
  *   Does not require a data connection all processing on device
  *   One touch, hand-held operation
  *   Identifies face and back of note in any orientation
  *   Camera flash is not required
  *   2 to 4 second response time
  *   Supports English and Spanish languages

Scanning Notes:
To complete a successful scan, the note should be positioned 6 to 8 inches away 
from the camera. The app must scan more than half of the note to recognize it. 
Adequate natural or artificial lighting is required for proper scanning, for 
ideal scanning conditions limit hand movement to reduce image blur. For best 
results, place the note on a flat surface. In Privacy mode, the app will not 
speak the denomination, but will communicate results back to the user with a 
pulse pattern (see below). On the iPhone, Privacy mode uses the vibration 
buzzer for the pulses. On the iPod Touch and iPad 2, Privacy mode uses an 
audible beep for the pulses. The patterns follow an easy sequential pattern:

  *   One Dollar is 1 pulse.
  *   Two Dollars is 2 pulses.
  *   Five Dollars is 3 pulses.
  *   Ten Dollars is 4 pulses.
  *   Twenty Dollars is 5 pulses.
  *   Fifty Dollars is 6 pulses.
  *   One Hundred Dollars is 7 pulses.
  *   Error, reposition is 8 rapid pulses.

Also, in the iOS Settings/Eyenote, you can toggle a settings menu on, so you 
can change from Speak, Tone, or Pulse in the app itself.
Make sure you set your device correctly:
Go to Settings, then Sounds. There are 2 Vibrate setting switches on this 
screen. At the top of the Sounds screen there is Silent, with a vibrate switch 
setting; this switch does not matter for the EyeNote to vibrate. Scrolling down 
the screen there is another Vibrate switch just above Ringtone. This Vibrate 
setting has to be set to ON for EyeNote to vibrate on an iPhone.
EyeNote in the App 
Store
www.eyenote.gov


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On May 4, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

eyenote.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Larry Lumpkin
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: Scanning money

It might be INote. I can’t remember the exact spelling.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of John 
J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:58 PM
To: vipho

RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Kelly,

I'm curious how much you pay for insurance coverage for your iPhone from your 
cell phone provider. And have you ever filed any claims with that coverage and 
if so, what was your experience?

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

Apple Care Plus is too limiting. I used the insurance plan from my cell phone 
company. It covers theft as well as faults with the device and any accidental 
damage. It also offers an upgrade to the new iPhone version each year.

Kelly



On 5/4/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Have you ever tried to collect from a credit card insurance plan? I 
> have a
> $400 a year Aeroplan Infinite Vis card here in Canada which is one of 
> the best cards there is and once or twice I tried to use the insurance 
> features and each time they found something to turn down the claim. I 
> have the card because I get a ton of reward points through it, but I 
> find that many of the insurance options these cards claim to offer are 
> greatly exaggerated.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 9:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.
>
> Check your credit card as well. I pay for my cell phone with the Uber 
> card, because it gives me phone insurance. There are cards with such a 
> protection as partof your perks.--Joe
>
> On 5/4/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> You have a good point their Sieghard on the increased price.  Maybe 
>> it isn't worth it on the pro models.
>> I will check with our insurance, that is a good deal.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.
>>
>> I find that Apple Care Plus now is so expensive especially if you 
>> have a Pro phone that I personally don't buy it any more. I have my 
>> iPhone insured as part of my home insurance where it is listed as a 
>> separate item and I think it's something like $30 or $40 a year. The 
>> good thing in my opinion is that for one thing this also covers loss 
>> or theft and secondly if I keep my phone for more than 2 years I 
>> still have coverage whereas Apple Care Plus is done after 2 years. Of 
>> course you have to check with your particular insurance company what 
>> all the conditions are, e.g. if you did have a claim, would that 
>> effect your overall home insurance rate, what exactly is covered, e.g.
>> what if you drop it and the screen breaks etc. I did loose my iPhone 
>> 6S Plus many years ago and my home insurance paid me the full 
>> purchase price at the time without fuss and I didn't even have to 
>> send in a receipt or anything, they sent me a cheque and said it was 
>> up to me what I wanted to do with it, e.g. buy a new iPhone 6S Plus 
>> or a different phone or whatever.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.
>>
>>
>>
>> As we all know our iPhones are a significant investment and an 
>> inconvenience if we're deprived of their use.
>>
>> What are people's view on Apple Care+ is it worth it?
>>
>> There are a number of insurers designed specifically for gadgets like 
>> iPhones and there is the possibility of insurance on one's hous 
>> contents too.
>>
>> Then there's the option to simply trust to luck and save money.
>>
>> What are people's thoughts?Malcolm Parfitt
>>
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Re: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

[Kelly Pierce]

Apple Care Plus is too limiting. I used the insurance plan from my
cell phone company. It covers theft as well as faults with the device
and any accidental damage. It also offers an upgrade to the new iPhone
version each year.

Kelly



On 5/4/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Have you ever tried to collect from a credit card insurance plan? I have a
> $400 a year Aeroplan Infinite Vis card here in Canada which is one of the
> best cards there is and once or twice I tried to use the insurance features
> and each time they found something to turn down the claim. I have the card
> because I get a ton of reward points through it, but I find that many of the
> insurance options these cards claim to offer are greatly exaggerated.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe
> Orozco
> Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 9:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.
>
> Check your credit card as well. I pay for my cell phone with the Uber card,
> because it gives me phone insurance. There are cards with such a protection
> as partof your perks.--Joe
>
> On 5/4/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> You have a good point their Sieghard on the increased price.  Maybe it
>> isn't worth it on the pro models.
>> I will check with our insurance, that is a good deal.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.
>>
>> I find that Apple Care Plus now is so expensive especially if you have
>> a Pro phone that I personally don't buy it any more. I have my iPhone
>> insured as part of my home insurance where it is listed as a separate
>> item and I think it's something like $30 or $40 a year. The good thing
>> in my opinion is that for one thing this also covers loss or theft and
>> secondly if I keep my phone for more than 2 years I still have
>> coverage whereas Apple Care Plus is done after 2 years. Of course you
>> have to check with your particular insurance company what all the
>> conditions are, e.g. if you did have a claim, would that effect your
>> overall home insurance rate, what exactly is covered, e.g.
>> what if you drop it and the screen breaks etc. I did loose my iPhone
>> 6S Plus many years ago and my home insurance paid me the full purchase
>> price at the time without fuss and I didn't even have to send in a
>> receipt or anything, they sent me a cheque and said it was up to me
>> what I wanted to do with it, e.g. buy a new iPhone 6S Plus or a different
>> phone or whatever.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.
>>
>>
>>
>> As we all know our iPhones are a significant investment and an
>> inconvenience if we're deprived of their use.
>>
>> What are people's view on Apple Care+ is it worth it?
>>
>> There are a number of insurers designed specifically for gadgets like
>> iPhones and there is the possibility of insurance on one's hous
>> contents too.
>>
>> Then there's the option to simply trust to luck and save money.
>>
>> What are people's thoughts?Malcolm Parfitt
>>
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Re: Scanning money

[Donna Casteen]

If you have an iPhone 10 or newer- Have you checked screen recognition to see 
if it is hendering or will help improve the accessibility of the app?

Donna

> 
> 
> Hi: money reader will not work with the newest update. What are people using 
> to scan money at this point?
> Thanks.
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Re: Scanning money

[Richard Turner]

In the previous messages I do not think anyone mentioned that EyeNote is for 
only US currency. Cash reader is for a large number of currencies.

Here is the info on it.

Cash Reader is free to download. The free version limits the identification to 
the lowest two banknotes for each currency.
Full version identifies all banknotes for the growing number of currencies. You 
can purchase the Full version within the app at any time.
See the app store page for updated currencies and languages.
Cash Reader on the App 
Store

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cash-reader-bill-identifier/id1344802905




Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On May 4, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


This is info from my web site:
EyeNote money identifier from Bureau of Engraving and Printing, Free

As of January 22, 2018, the updated EyeNote. 3.0 app is now 64-bit and works on 
Apple mobile devices that support iOS version 9.1 or greater. These include 
Apple iPhone. 5 and newer models, 5th generation iPod. Touch and later 
generations, and iPad.2 and newer models.

  *   Utilizes VoiceOver for vocal and gesture feedback if it is turned on for 
the target iOS device.
  *   Privacy mode communicates results with an audible beep or pulse pattern.
  *   Runs without any special filters or background material
  *   Does not require a data connection all processing on device
  *   One touch, hand-held operation
  *   Identifies face and back of note in any orientation
  *   Camera flash is not required
  *   2 to 4 second response time
  *   Supports English and Spanish languages

Scanning Notes:
To complete a successful scan, the note should be positioned 6 to 8 inches away 
from the camera. The app must scan more than half of the note to recognize it. 
Adequate natural or artificial lighting is required for proper scanning, for 
ideal scanning conditions limit hand movement to reduce image blur. For best 
results, place the note on a flat surface. In Privacy mode, the app will not 
speak the denomination, but will communicate results back to the user with a 
pulse pattern (see below). On the iPhone, Privacy mode uses the vibration 
buzzer for the pulses. On the iPod Touch and iPad 2, Privacy mode uses an 
audible beep for the pulses. The patterns follow an easy sequential pattern:

  *   One Dollar is 1 pulse.
  *   Two Dollars is 2 pulses.
  *   Five Dollars is 3 pulses.
  *   Ten Dollars is 4 pulses.
  *   Twenty Dollars is 5 pulses.
  *   Fifty Dollars is 6 pulses.
  *   One Hundred Dollars is 7 pulses.
  *   Error, reposition is 8 rapid pulses.

Also, in the iOS Settings/Eyenote, you can toggle a settings menu on, so you 
can change from Speak, Tone, or Pulse in the app itself.
Make sure you set your device correctly:
Go to Settings, then Sounds. There are 2 Vibrate setting switches on this 
screen. At the top of the Sounds screen there is Silent, with a vibrate switch 
setting; this switch does not matter for the EyeNote to vibrate. Scrolling down 
the screen there is another Vibrate switch just above Ringtone. This Vibrate 
setting has to be set to ON for EyeNote to vibrate on an iPhone.
EyeNote in the App 
Store
www.eyenote.gov



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On May 4, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:


eyenote.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Larry Lumpkin
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: Scanning money

It might be INote. I can’t remember the exact spelling.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of John 
J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Scanning money

Hi: money reader will not work with the newest update. What are people using to 
scan money at this point?
Thanks.
--
The following information is importan

Re: Scanning money

[Richard Turner]

This is info from my web site:
EyeNote money identifier from Bureau of Engraving and Printing, Free

As of January 22, 2018, the updated EyeNote. 3.0 app is now 64-bit and works on 
Apple mobile devices that support iOS version 9.1 or greater. These include 
Apple iPhone. 5 and newer models, 5th generation iPod. Touch and later 
generations, and iPad.2 and newer models.

  *   Utilizes VoiceOver for vocal and gesture feedback if it is turned on for 
the target iOS device.
  *   Privacy mode communicates results with an audible beep or pulse pattern.
  *   Runs without any special filters or background material
  *   Does not require a data connection all processing on device
  *   One touch, hand-held operation
  *   Identifies face and back of note in any orientation
  *   Camera flash is not required
  *   2 to 4 second response time
  *   Supports English and Spanish languages

Scanning Notes:
To complete a successful scan, the note should be positioned 6 to 8 inches away 
from the camera. The app must scan more than half of the note to recognize it. 
Adequate natural or artificial lighting is required for proper scanning, for 
ideal scanning conditions limit hand movement to reduce image blur. For best 
results, place the note on a flat surface. In Privacy mode, the app will not 
speak the denomination, but will communicate results back to the user with a 
pulse pattern (see below). On the iPhone, Privacy mode uses the vibration 
buzzer for the pulses. On the iPod Touch and iPad 2, Privacy mode uses an 
audible beep for the pulses. The patterns follow an easy sequential pattern:

  *   One Dollar is 1 pulse.
  *   Two Dollars is 2 pulses.
  *   Five Dollars is 3 pulses.
  *   Ten Dollars is 4 pulses.
  *   Twenty Dollars is 5 pulses.
  *   Fifty Dollars is 6 pulses.
  *   One Hundred Dollars is 7 pulses.
  *   Error, reposition is 8 rapid pulses.

Also, in the iOS Settings/Eyenote, you can toggle a settings menu on, so you 
can change from Speak, Tone, or Pulse in the app itself.
Make sure you set your device correctly:
Go to Settings, then Sounds. There are 2 Vibrate setting switches on this 
screen. At the top of the Sounds screen there is Silent, with a vibrate switch 
setting; this switch does not matter for the EyeNote to vibrate. Scrolling down 
the screen there is another Vibrate switch just above Ringtone. This Vibrate 
setting has to be set to ON for EyeNote to vibrate on an iPhone.
EyeNote in the App 
Store
www.eyenote.gov



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On May 4, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:


eyenote.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Larry Lumpkin
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: Scanning money

It might be INote. I can’t remember the exact spelling.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of John 
J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Scanning money

Hi: money reader will not work with the newest update. What are people using to 
scan money at this point?
Thanks.
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RE: Bose frames

[Simon A Fogarty]

I have been able to understand what comes out of my frames when I've given them 
to others to have a look at,

If the volume is up high enough,

So yeah it is possible to hear what the conversation is.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2021 1:39 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

We must make a distinction. When you ask if anyone can hear this is not the 
same as asking if anyone can understand what the caller is saying.
- Original Message -
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:23 PM
Subject: RE: Bose frames


As stated here,

If the volume is up to it's maximum then yes others can hear the person on the 
phone with you.

If you have them low that is still comfortable for you then no they shouldn’t 
be able to hear the caller,

I use mine all the time and only music loud is what people have heard and then 
only when they sit close to me.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2021 10:18 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I would imagine that if you have to volume all the way up it would be possible 
for others to hear your conversation. Kept at a reasonable volume, there could 
be some chance of others hearing but not much. They are open speakers so I 
think it's to be expected.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi about these frames.
What I would like to know is if you are on A call and using them.
Can others hear your conversation as well or just you?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There are 
other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours whereas the 
others have 6.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

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Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type headsets 
I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around style set of 
sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the others and the 
sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them every day and use 
them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also work great for 
making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work the best for me.

My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when 
issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
unnecessary with other brands.



Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not block 
my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset by Bose do 
not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so I can use 
Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now is, I have my 
I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I would like to have a 
bit more privacy but at the same time have total ability of hearing traffic and 
other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I 
just want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy 
and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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Re: Scanning money

[Andy Baracco]

eyenote.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Lumpkin 
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  Subject: RE: Scanning money


  It might be INote. I can’t remember the exact spelling.

   

   

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  Hi: money reader will not work with the newest update. What are people using 
to scan money at this point?

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RE: Scanning money

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It might be INote. I can’t remember the exact spelling.

 

 

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Fioravanti, Jr.
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Hi: money reader will not work with the newest update. What are people using to 
scan money at this point?

Thanks. 

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RE: Scanning money

[Larry Lumpkin]

I use EyeNote from the treasury department. It’s interface has absolutely no 
controls in it but just presents a blank screen which leads you to believe that 
it isn’t accessible. But it is. Just wave the phone over a bill and it will 
say, for example, five dollars front. It tells you the fronts and backs of 
bills if you need that info but there is absolutely no way to configure the app 
that I have found. It is free however.

 

 

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Hi: money reader will not work with the newest update. What are people using to 
scan money at this point?

Thanks. 

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Scanning money

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Hi: money reader will not work with the newest update. What are people using to 
scan money at this point?

Thanks. 

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Re: Withings scale

[Christina]

The Wyze scale is great. That's spelled W. Y. Z. E. 
It did not require sighted assistance to set up on my iPhone, it runs about $35 
on Amazon, and does not require me to stand perfectly on sensors.

> On May 4, 2021, at 2:09 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> Our scale cost $30 from Amazon.  the app works well.  It is called 'fit 
> index'.  I suppose the scale's name is the same.
> At 01:16 PM 5/4/2021, you wrote:
>> I bought a Withings Body Plus scale and it does require sighted assistance 
>> to set up. the app seems not to register any weight that's different from 
>> what you program. The scale makes no beeps or anything to let you know that 
>> it's working, and it seems you have to stand on a certain section for the 
>> weight to show up. It's the health mate app, and the results show up in the 
>> Apple health app as well. It's not the best solution, but the best one I've 
>> found right now.
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On May 4, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Mary Otten > > wrote:
>> 
>> I just saw an article about this scale, which sells for a not 
>> insignificant sum of $150 either directly from the vendor or from Amazon. 
>> Apparently, it gives you all sorts of measurements, and of course it 
>> connects with the iPhone. My question is: does anyone have this? If so, how 
>> well does it work with voiceover? Paying that much to get a bunch of 
>> measurements that I can’t read is not in my plan. Smile.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

[Richard Turner]

Agreed.
I think I remember when Siri actually would read an email.
But, Alexa does now, not perfectly, but pretty good.
Frankly, I like the Alexa voice better anyway.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

You are correct, I guess I haven't tried this in a long time, but now it's even 
worse than you say, I just asked SIRI to read my latest email and she said 
"Here's an email" and that was it. On the screen when I checked it a Netflix 
email was displayed so I asked "Read my email from Netflix" and she said "You 
have 1 email from Netflix" and nothing else, no subject, nothing else.
Really makes you wonder what Apple is thinking of, SIRI is 10 years old this 
year and they came out with SIRI 3 years before Amazon released Alexa, they 
should be ashamed and embarrassed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

Actually, have you asked Siri to read an email lately?
She will tell you who it is from and the subject, and that's it.
P:Pretty useless.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 5:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

If she only wants to read an email which just came in all she has to do is ask 
SIRI to do so.
I for one of course ask myself why I would want to pay attention to emails 
during my 20 or 30 minutes of exercise time just as I very rarely check a 
notification which comes in while I am having dinner.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

If she wants to learn all the Voice Control commands, that could work, but is a 
lot.
I think a better solution is one I just learned about.
You can connect the Amazon Alexa app to your email and calendar and access your 
email and calendar totally hands free.
I just tested it with my Microsoft email and calendar.
Here is the welcome letter after setting this up which gives you an idea of 
what you can do.
Congratulations on linking your calendar and email account with Alexa. Here are 
a few tips to get started.

Stay on top of your day
"Alexa, what's on my calendar?"
"Alexa, add a new event."
"Alexa, check my email."
"Alexa, cancel my appointment tomorrow."
Alexa can help with reviewing your upcoming calendar, and can also add, delete, 
and move events to a new time. Check your emails, and reply, delete, or mark as 
important, and get more done hands-free.

Never miss an important event
Get calendar notifications from Alexa by visiting Settings > Calendar & Email 
in your Alexa app, and selecting the account you want to enable.

Add Calendar and Email to your Alexa Routine
Create an Alexa Routine, where a series of tasks are done with one command. For 
example, say "Alexa, good morning" and hear your schedule for the day, the 
weather, and your latest emails.
"Alexa, good morning."
"Alexa, start my day."
To enable custom Routines in minutes, follow the steps in your Alexa app under 
Routines.

Alexa is always getting smarter and adding new productivity features. Visit the 
Alexa Guide for the latest updates.
As a reminder, your calendar and email may be available to anyone using your 
Alexa devices, and a copy of your linked calendar and email are stored in the 
cloud.


(c) 2021 Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Amazon, 
Alexa, Echo, Prime, and all related logos are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or 
its affiliates. Amazon.com, 410 Terry Avenue N., Seattle, WA 98109-5210. 
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viph

How to delete a bookmark on the Mac?

[Ann Byrne]

I have 20 bookmarks left from a previous project and I would like to 
delete them.  How can I do that?


thx,

Ann

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RE: Bose frames

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Should work fine if you can walk on your hands

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 5:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I can't see how they would easily add in an accellorometor 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2021 3:21 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I believe he was referring to head tracking which the Tempo doesn't support 
currently. Other than the head tracking, the Tempos work great with SoundScape.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

yes, they do.
- Original Message - 
From: "Yohandy" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Bose frames


Hey there all,

Any idea if these glasses support Microsoft Soundscape? I think the old
model did, that's what I read anyway, but not sure about these new sport
ones. apparently it uses their accelerometers and such to pinpoint
things, which sounds super cool. I was thinking of picking up a pair.
thanks in advance for any help!



On 5/3/2021 3:35 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There 
> are other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours 
> whereas the others have 6.
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Casey Wollner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>
> Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
> And about how much do they cost?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> rick.alf...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>
> Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
> headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap 
> around style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some 
> of the others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I 
> wear them every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books 
> and they also work great for making and answering phone calls. They are 
> expensive but work the best for me.
>
> My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way 
> that AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" 
> when issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
> unnecessary with other brands.
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Bose frames
>
> Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not 
> block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset 
> by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great 
> so I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing 
> now is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, 
> I would like to have a bit more privacy but at the same time have total 
> ability of hearing traffic and other sounds around me.  Although I 
> mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just want a quality piece of 
> equipment that will be comfortable and sounds great and looks good. 
> Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy and Leroy
>
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
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RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You are correct, I guess I haven't tried this in a long time, but now it's even 
worse than you say, I just asked SIRI to read my latest email and she said 
"Here's an email" and that was it. On the screen when I checked it a Netflix 
email was displayed so I asked "Read my email from Netflix" and she said "You 
have 1 email from Netflix" and nothing else, no subject, nothing else.
Really makes you wonder what Apple is thinking of, SIRI is 10 years old this 
year and they came out with SIRI 3 years before Amazon released Alexa, they 
should be ashamed and embarrassed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

Actually, have you asked Siri to read an email lately?
She will tell you who it is from and the subject, and that’s it.
P:Pretty useless.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 5:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

If she only wants to read an email which just came in all she has to do is ask 
SIRI to do so.
I for one of course ask myself why I would want to pay attention to emails 
during my 20 or 30 minutes of exercise time just as I very rarely check a 
notification which comes in while I am having dinner.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

If she wants to learn all the Voice Control commands, that could work, but is a 
lot.
I think a better solution is one I just learned about.
You can connect the Amazon Alexa app to your email and calendar and access your 
email and calendar totally hands free.
I just tested it with my Microsoft email and calendar.
Here is the welcome letter after setting this up which gives you an idea of 
what you can do.
Congratulations on linking your calendar and email account with Alexa. Here are 
a few tips to get started.

Stay on top of your day
"Alexa, what's on my calendar?"
"Alexa, add a new event."
"Alexa, check my email."
"Alexa, cancel my appointment tomorrow."
Alexa can help with reviewing your upcoming calendar, and can also add, delete, 
and move events to a new time. Check your emails, and reply, delete, or mark as 
important, and get more done hands-free.

Never miss an important event
Get calendar notifications from Alexa by visiting Settings > Calendar & Email 
in your Alexa app, and selecting the account you want to enable.

Add Calendar and Email to your Alexa Routine
Create an Alexa Routine, where a series of tasks are done with one command. For 
example, say "Alexa, good morning" and hear your schedule for the day, the 
weather, and your latest emails.
"Alexa, good morning."
"Alexa, start my day."
To enable custom Routines in minutes, follow the steps in your Alexa app under 
Routines.

Alexa is always getting smarter and adding new productivity features. Visit the 
Alexa Guide for the latest updates.
As a reminder, your calendar and email may be available to anyone using your 
Alexa devices, and a copy of your linked calendar and email are stored in the 
cloud.


© 2021 Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Amazon, Alexa, 
Echo, Prime, and all related logos are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its 
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459031490


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dean 
Martineau
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

A trainee asked me about apps that would allow her to set her mail to reading 
while she’s on the bike or treadmill so she doesn’t have to interact with the 
phone much or at all, except possibly with her voice.  She’s a VoiceOver user.  
Is there a way to do this.

Thought-provoking reading: 
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RE: Reading texts without opening phone.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As long as you specify that Messages should appear on the lock screen you 
should be able to ask SIRI to read them, it always works for me and I never did 
anything special other than to allow Messages on the lock screen. This also 
allows me to review them with Voiceover and to reply to a message without ever 
unlocking my phone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading texts without opening phone.

It should be just a little farther down the screen beyond the Siri responses 
button.
Don’t activate the responses button and you should run into them since you are 
running the same phone as I.
I probably need to grab 14.5.1.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading texts without opening phone.

Richard,

Running iOS 14.5.1 on an SE 2020 iPhone and I have the phone set to read text 
messages on the locked screen, but it doesn't.  Here's what it says, Allow Siri 
when locked, On, dimmed.  I have Announce Calls & Siri Responses bothe set to, 
Always.  Where do I find this new announce messages setting?  Thanks mooy 
moocho.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Reading texts without opening phone.

Do you have Allow hey Siri when locked on.
You may also want to look at the new setting concerning announce messages. That 
may only be for certain headphones, but give it a try.
You still may have to unlock the phone, but let us know.


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On May 4, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
Is there a way to get Siri to read texts without me having
to open my phone? Thanks for any information.

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RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you ever tried to collect from a credit card insurance plan? I have a $400 
a year Aeroplan Infinite Vis card here in Canada which is one of the best cards 
there is and once or twice I tried to use the insurance features and each time 
they found something to turn down the claim. I have the card because I get a 
ton of reward points through it, but I find that many of the insurance options 
these cards claim to offer are greatly exaggerated. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

Check your credit card as well. I pay for my cell phone with the Uber card, 
because it gives me phone insurance. There are cards with such a protection as 
partof your perks.--Joe

On 5/4/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> You have a good point their Sieghard on the increased price.  Maybe it 
> isn't worth it on the pro models.
> I will check with our insurance, that is a good deal.
>
>
>
> Richard
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Subject: RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.
>
> I find that Apple Care Plus now is so expensive especially if you have 
> a Pro phone that I personally don't buy it any more. I have my iPhone 
> insured as part of my home insurance where it is listed as a separate 
> item and I think it's something like $30 or $40 a year. The good thing 
> in my opinion is that for one thing this also covers loss or theft and 
> secondly if I keep my phone for more than 2 years I still have 
> coverage whereas Apple Care Plus is done after 2 years. Of course you 
> have to check with your particular insurance company what all the 
> conditions are, e.g. if you did have a claim, would that effect your overall 
> home insurance rate, what exactly is covered, e.g.
> what if you drop it and the screen breaks etc. I did loose my iPhone 
> 6S Plus many years ago and my home insurance paid me the full purchase 
> price at the time without fuss and I didn't even have to send in a 
> receipt or anything, they sent me a cheque and said it was up to me 
> what I wanted to do with it, e.g. buy a new iPhone 6S Plus or a different 
> phone or whatever.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.
>
>
>
> As we all know our iPhones are a significant investment and an 
> inconvenience if we're deprived of their use.
>
> What are people's view on Apple Care+ is it worth it?
>
> There are a number of insurers designed specifically for gadgets like 
> iPhones and there is the possibility of insurance on one's hous 
> contents too.
>
> Then there's the option to simply trust to luck and save money.
>
> What are people's thoughts?Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

[Richard Turner]

Actually, have you asked Siri to read an email lately?
She will tell you who it is from and the subject, and that's it.
P:Pretty useless.


Richard
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they become by it."
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Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 5:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

If she only wants to read an email which just came in all she has to do is ask 
SIRI to do so.
I for one of course ask myself why I would want to pay attention to emails 
during my 20 or 30 minutes of exercise time just as I very rarely check a 
notification which comes in while I am having dinner.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

If she wants to learn all the Voice Control commands, that could work, but is a 
lot.
I think a better solution is one I just learned about.
You can connect the Amazon Alexa app to your email and calendar and access your 
email and calendar totally hands free.
I just tested it with my Microsoft email and calendar.
Here is the welcome letter after setting this up which gives you an idea of 
what you can do.
Congratulations on linking your calendar and email account with Alexa. Here are 
a few tips to get started.

Stay on top of your day
"Alexa, what's on my calendar?"
"Alexa, add a new event."
"Alexa, check my email."
"Alexa, cancel my appointment tomorrow."
Alexa can help with reviewing your upcoming calendar, and can also add, delete, 
and move events to a new time. Check your emails, and reply, delete, or mark as 
important, and get more done hands-free.

Never miss an important event
Get calendar notifications from Alexa by visiting Settings > Calendar & Email 
in your Alexa app, and selecting the account you want to enable.

Add Calendar and Email to your Alexa Routine
Create an Alexa Routine, where a series of tasks are done with one command. For 
example, say "Alexa, good morning" and hear your schedule for the day, the 
weather, and your latest emails.
"Alexa, good morning."
"Alexa, start my day."
To enable custom Routines in minutes, follow the steps in your Alexa app under 
Routines.

Alexa is always getting smarter and adding new productivity features. Visit the 
Alexa Guide for the latest updates.
As a reminder, your calendar and email may be available to anyone using your 
Alexa devices, and a copy of your linked calendar and email are stored in the 
cloud.


(c) 2021 Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Amazon, 
Alexa, Echo, Prime, and all related logos are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or 
its affiliates. Amazon.com, 410 Terry Avenue N., Seattle, WA 98109-5210. 
Reference: 459031490


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dean 
Martineau
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

A trainee asked me about apps that would allow her to set her mail to reading 
while she's on the bike or treadmill so she doesn't have to interact with the 
phone much or at all, except possibly with her voice.  She's a VoiceOver user.  
Is there a way to do this.

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RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If she only wants to read an email which just came in all she has to do is ask 
SIRI to do so.
I for one of course ask myself why I would want to pay attention to emails 
during my 20 or 30 minutes of exercise time just as I very rarely check a 
notification which comes in while I am having dinner.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

If she wants to learn all the Voice Control commands, that could work, but is a 
lot.
I think a better solution is one I just learned about.
You can connect the Amazon Alexa app to your email and calendar and access your 
email and calendar totally hands free.
I just tested it with my Microsoft email and calendar.
Here is the welcome letter after setting this up which gives you an idea of 
what you can do.
Congratulations on linking your calendar and email account with Alexa. Here are 
a few tips to get started.

Stay on top of your day
"Alexa, what's on my calendar?"
"Alexa, add a new event."
"Alexa, check my email."
"Alexa, cancel my appointment tomorrow."
Alexa can help with reviewing your upcoming calendar, and can also add, delete, 
and move events to a new time. Check your emails, and reply, delete, or mark as 
important, and get more done hands-free.

Never miss an important event
Get calendar notifications from Alexa by visiting Settings > Calendar & Email 
in your Alexa app, and selecting the account you want to enable.

Add Calendar and Email to your Alexa Routine
Create an Alexa Routine, where a series of tasks are done with one command. For 
example, say "Alexa, good morning" and hear your schedule for the day, the 
weather, and your latest emails.
"Alexa, good morning."
"Alexa, start my day."
To enable custom Routines in minutes, follow the steps in your Alexa app under 
Routines.

Alexa is always getting smarter and adding new productivity features. Visit the 
Alexa Guide for the latest updates.
As a reminder, your calendar and email may be available to anyone using your 
Alexa devices, and a copy of your linked calendar and email are stored in the 
cloud.


© 2021 Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Amazon, Alexa, 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dean 
Martineau
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

A trainee asked me about apps that would allow her to set her mail to reading 
while she’s on the bike or treadmill so she doesn’t have to interact with the 
phone much or at all, except possibly with her voice.  She’s a VoiceOver user.  
Is there a way to do this.

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http://bahaiteachings.org

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RE: Tiles versus tags

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And one big advantage I see mentioned in most reviews is the fact that the 
Apple Airtag benefits from the billion and more iPhones in the world whereas as 
the Tile utilizes its own network. From all I read the Airtag is probably a 
superior product if you are in the market for such a device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tiles versus tags

Here’s a comparison of the different tracking options out there. I saw this 
posted to this or another list recently. Apple AirTags vs. Tile: Which 
Bluetooth tracker to buy (and what about Samsung SmartTag?) - 
CNET

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul 
JOrdan
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tiles versus tags

There are some tiles with replaceable batteries.
I got mine last summer and have replaced the batteries once.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tiles versus tags

I don’t’ know the current price of Tiles, but Airtags seem a tad bit expensive.
But, AirTags have a replaceable battery, which unless they have changed, Tiles 
did not.

I would like someone to do a comparison of the sound volume.
When Tiles were fairly new, I thought they would be a great thing for some of 
our older clients, but the sound was so low volume they were next to useless.

It seems from the demo at the Apple Event, that you can track them more 
accurately than the Tiles.

That is all I know, and guess.


Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Donald 
L. Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tiles versus tags


I am writing to ask for a bit of clarification. I do understand that air tags 
can be traced and located outside the user's immediate area; otherwise, just 
what are the defining characteristics of air tags as compared with tiles?



Thanks.



Don Roberts


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RE: Bose frames

[Simon A Fogarty]

I can't see how they would easily add in an accellorometor 

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2021 3:21 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I believe he was referring to head tracking which the Tempo doesn't support 
currently. Other than the head tracking, the Tempos work great with SoundScape.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

yes, they do.
- Original Message - 
From: "Yohandy" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Bose frames


Hey there all,

Any idea if these glasses support Microsoft Soundscape? I think the old
model did, that's what I read anyway, but not sure about these new sport
ones. apparently it uses their accelerometers and such to pinpoint
things, which sounds super cool. I was thinking of picking up a pair.
thanks in advance for any help!



On 5/3/2021 3:35 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There 
> are other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours 
> whereas the others have 6.
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Casey Wollner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>
> Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
> And about how much do they cost?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> rick.alf...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>
> Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
> headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap 
> around style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some 
> of the others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I 
> wear them every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books 
> and they also work great for making and answering phone calls. They are 
> expensive but work the best for me.
>
> My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way 
> that AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" 
> when issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
> unnecessary with other brands.
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Bose frames
>
> Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not 
> block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset 
> by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great 
> so I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing 
> now is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, 
> I would like to have a bit more privacy but at the same time have total 
> ability of hearing traffic and other sounds around me.  Although I 
> mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just want a quality piece of 
> equipment that will be comfortable and sounds great and looks good. 
> Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy and Leroy
>
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RE: Sleep Number Bed App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And make sure you don't accidently tap the emergency ejection button (just 
joking of course).

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sleep Number Bed App

Thanks so much!  This is good to know about the up and down for the head and 
feet!  Thank God the phone app works if the remote is not accessible at all for 
us.

Carla


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rizzino, 
Bonnie
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sleep Number Bed App

Carla,
It is fairly accessible.

The one thing that was a little strange is that when going in to adjust your 
head or feet levels on the adjustable base, you have to hold the up arrow and 
the down arrow to make the adjustment.
The remote is not at all usable for a blind person.

Bonnie Rizzino
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www.bvrspittsburgh.org
412-368-4400 X2246
Direct dial 412-368-4079

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Carla
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sleep Number Bed App

I'm getting a new Sleep Number bed and it has the app on the iPhone.  Does 
anyone have this and if so is it totally accessible?  Thanks for any info.

Carla

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RE: Preferred calendar app recommendations

[Simon A Fogarty]

IOs calendar app is fine from my point of view,

And bothe easy to use and gives me the notifications to appointments when I 
need them.

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Greetings. I use a specific app to manage my calendar, but am interested in 
recommendations from others regarding their preferred calendar app. What do you 
use, why do you use it, what do you like about it, etc.? If you can, please 
give me some positives and negatives about your preferred app.

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RE: Reading texts without opening phone.

[Richard Turner]

It should be just a little farther down the screen beyond the Siri responses 
button.
Don’t activate the responses button and you should run into them since you are 
running the same phone as I.
I probably need to grab 14.5.1.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading texts without opening phone.

Richard,

Running iOS 14.5.1 on an SE 2020 iPhone and I have the phone set to read text 
messages on the locked screen, but it doesn't.  Here's what it says, Allow Siri 
when locked, On, dimmed.  I have Announce Calls & Siri Responses bothe set to, 
Always.  Where do I find this new announce messages setting?  Thanks mooy 
moocho.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Reading texts without opening phone.

Do you have Allow hey Siri when locked on.
You may also want to look at the new setting concerning announce messages. That 
may only be for certain headphones, but give it a try.
You still may have to unlock the phone, but let us know.


Richard
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On May 4, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
Is there a way to get Siri to read texts without me having
to open my phone? Thanks for any information.

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Re: Reading texts without opening phone.

[Mike B]

Richard,

Running iOS 14.5.1 on an SE 2020 iPhone and I have the phone set to read 
text messages on the locked screen, but it doesn't.  Here's what it says, 
Allow Siri when locked, On, dimmed.  I have Announce Calls & Siri Responses 
bothe set to, Always.  Where do I find this new announce messages setting? 
Thanks mooy moocho.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Reading texts without opening phone.


Do you have Allow hey Siri when locked on.
You may also want to look at the new setting concerning announce messages. 
That may only be for certain headphones, but give it a try.
You still may have to unlock the phone, but let us know.





Richard
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  Is there a way to get Siri to read texts without me having
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Re: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I agree that Apple Care+ is expensive for an iPhone 12 Pro Max 120Gb about 
£199.00 unfortunately apart from the USA and Japan apparently no cover for loss 
or theft is offered.

I’ve looked at a range of companies with a wide range of prices and excesses.

Many state that you should take reasonable care of your device which is 
understandable and some suggest not letting it unattended and out of sight.  I 
wonder how if at all being blind would affect you making a claim or the 
coverage offered us?

Then there’s the quality of any repair, what effect would that have on the 
resale value of a device if not undertaken by Apple.

Obviously an iPhone is expensive to replace so protection may be an attractive 
proposition.

The house and insurance policy are in my mother’s name as I returned here after 
my divorce.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 4 May 2021, at 21:01, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi Malcolm,
> 
> I'm not normally a fan of insurance for electronics but I make the exception 
> with Apple Care Plus for my iPhones. Since the iPhone is pricey and since I'm 
> carrying it around with me and often using it around potential hazards like 
> open toilets, I've decided to pony up for Apple Care Plus whenever I purchase 
> a new iPhone. I'll have to price its cost when I get my next new iPhone since 
> I haven't used Apple Care to replace a phone since my iPhone 5's headphone 
> jack died.
> 
> Alan Lemly
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> 
> 
> 
> As we all know our iPhones are a significant investment and an inconvenience 
> if we’re deprived of their use.
> 
> What are people’s view on Apple Care+ is it worth it?
> 
> There are a number of insurers designed specifically for gadgets like iPhones 
> and there is the possibility of insurance on one’s hous contents too.
> 
> Then there’s the option to simply trust to luck and save money.
> 
> What are people’s thoughts?Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Reading texts without opening phone.

[Richard Turner]

Do you have Allow hey Siri when locked on.
You may also want to look at the new setting concerning announce messages. That 
may only be for certain headphones, but give it a try.
You still may have to unlock the phone, but let us know.



Richard
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On May 4, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Is there a way to get Siri to read texts without me having
to open my phone? Thanks for any information.

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Reading texts without opening phone.

[Carolyn]

Is there a way to get Siri to read texts without me having
to open my phone? Thanks for any information. 

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RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

[Richard Turner]

If she wants to learn all the Voice Control commands, that could work, but is a 
lot.
I think a better solution is one I just learned about.
You can connect the Amazon Alexa app to your email and calendar and access your 
email and calendar totally hands free.
I just tested it with my Microsoft email and calendar.
Here is the welcome letter after setting this up which gives you an idea of 
what you can do.
Congratulations on linking your calendar and email account with Alexa. Here are 
a few tips to get started.

Stay on top of your day
"Alexa, what's on my calendar?"
"Alexa, add a new event."
"Alexa, check my email."
"Alexa, cancel my appointment tomorrow."
Alexa can help with reviewing your upcoming calendar, and can also add, delete, 
and move events to a new time. Check your emails, and reply, delete, or mark as 
important, and get more done hands-free.

Never miss an important event
Get calendar notifications from Alexa by visiting Settings > Calendar & Email 
in your Alexa app, and selecting the account you want to enable.

Add Calendar and Email to your Alexa Routine
Create an Alexa Routine, where a series of tasks are done with one command. For 
example, say "Alexa, good morning" and hear your schedule for the day, the 
weather, and your latest emails.
"Alexa, good morning."
"Alexa, start my day."
To enable custom Routines in minutes, follow the steps in your Alexa app under 
Routines.

Alexa is always getting smarter and adding new productivity features. Visit the 
Alexa Guide for the latest updates.
As a reminder, your calendar and email may be available to anyone using your 
Alexa devices, and a copy of your linked calendar and email are stored in the 
cloud.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dean 
Martineau
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

A trainee asked me about apps that would allow her to set her mail to reading 
while she's on the bike or treadmill so she doesn't have to interact with the 
phone much or at all, except possibly with her voice.  She's a VoiceOver user.  
Is there a way to do this.

Thought-provoking reading: 
http://bahaiteachings.org

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RE: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

[Christopher Chaltain]

I haven’t used this feature myself, but this is an option in the Outlook app.

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Stone
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Subject: Re: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

I’ve never used it myself, but it ought to be possible to do that with voice 
control, didn’t it?
Sent from my iPhone


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mailto:top...@gmail.com>> wrote:

A trainee asked me about apps that would allow her to set her mail to reading 
while she’s on the bike or treadmill so she doesn’t have to interact with the 
phone much or at all, except possibly with her voice.  She’s a VoiceOver user.  
Is there a way to do this.

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

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RE: Tiles versus tags

[Christopher Chaltain]

Here’s a comparison of the different tracking options out there. I saw this 
posted to this or another list recently. Apple AirTags vs. Tile: Which 
Bluetooth tracker to buy (and what about Samsung SmartTag?) - 
CNET

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul 
JOrdan
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tiles versus tags

There are some tiles with replaceable batteries.
I got mine last summer and have replaced the batteries once.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:22 PM
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Subject: RE: Tiles versus tags

I don’t’ know the current price of Tiles, but Airtags seem a tad bit expensive.
But, AirTags have a replaceable battery, which unless they have changed, Tiles 
did not.

I would like someone to do a comparison of the sound volume.
When Tiles were fairly new, I thought they would be a great thing for some of 
our older clients, but the sound was so low volume they were next to useless.

It seems from the demo at the Apple Event, that you can track them more 
accurately than the Tiles.

That is all I know, and guess.


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Donald 
L. Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tiles versus tags


I am writing to ask for a bit of clarification. I do understand that air tags 
can be traced and located outside the user's immediate area; otherwise, just 
what are the defining characteristics of air tags as compared with tiles?



Thanks.



Don Roberts


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RE: Disk Cleanup for iOS?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I suspect nothing is available or needed for IOS. Each app manages their own 
files and data. This is done for security reasons on IOS. At least that’s my 
understanding, which may be a bit dated by now.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 4:22 PM
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Subject: Disk Cleanup for iOS?

Hi All,

Many of you are familiar with Windows and probably run some version or another 
of it.  With Windows there's a feature / program called disk cleanup that gets 
rid of old files of several flavors to rid the system of unnecessary files.

I've never heard this discussed and I'm curious, does iOS have a similar app / 
feature?  If not what do people use to keep their iOS's cleaned up?  All input 
is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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Disk Cleanup for iOS?

[Mike B]

Hi All,

Many of you are familiar with Windows and probably run some version or 
another of it.  With Windows there's a feature / program called disk cleanup 
that gets rid of old files of several flavors to rid the system of 
unnecessary files.

I've never heard this discussed and I'm curious, does iOS have a similar app 
/ feature?  If not what do people use to keep their iOS's cleaned up?  All 
input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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scale

[Ann Byrne]

The scale is also called fit index.  Matches the app.  (LOL)
At 03:09 PM 5/4/2021, you wrote:
Our scale cost $30 from Amazon.  the app works 
well.  It is called 'fit index'.  I suppose the scale's name is the same.

At 01:16 PM 5/4/2021, you wrote:
I bought a Withings Body Plus scale and it does 
require sighted assistance to set up. the app 
seems not to register any weight that's 
different from what you program. The scale 
makes no beeps or anything to let you know that 
it's working, and it seems you have to stand on 
a certain section for the weight to show up. 
It's the health mate app, and the results show 
up in the Apple health app as well. It's not 
the best solution, but the best one I've found right now.

Matthew


On May 4, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I just saw an article about this scale, 
which sells for a not insignificant sum of $150 
either directly from the vendor or from Amazon. 
Apparently, it gives you all sorts of 
measurements, and of course it connects with 
the iPhone. My question is: does anyone have 
this? If so, how well does it work with 
voiceover? Paying that much to get a bunch of 
measurements that I can̢۪t read is not in my plan. Smile.

.

Mary


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Re: Preferred calendar app recommendations

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi,
I use the apple calendar app because it{s very accessible. I like that it syncs 
directly to my devices like my laptop, iPad, and watch. I also use the Google 
calendar app as a backup to the apple calendar app.
I also recommend the google calendar app because it is as accessible as the 
apple calendar app.
I rather manage all of my task on 1 or two calendar apps, and google calendar 
is good for creating reminders, tasks and goals, and it reminds you to complete 
tasks.



> On May 4, 2021, at 1:47 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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> Greetings. I use a specific app to manage my calendar, but am
> interested in recommendations from others regarding their preferred
> calendar app. What do you use, why do you use it, what do you like
> about it, etc.? If you can, please give me some positives and
> negatives about your preferred app.
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Re: reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

[Alex Stone]

I’ve never used it myself, but it ought to be possible to do that with voice 
control, didn’t it?

Sent from my iPhone

On 4 May 2021, at 21:07, Dean Martineau  wrote:


A trainee asked me about apps that would allow her to set her mail to reading 
while she’s on the bike or treadmill so she doesn’t have to interact with the 
phone much or at all, except possibly with her voice.  She’s a VoiceOver user.  
Is there a way to do this.

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org


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Re: Withings scale

[Ann Byrne]

Our scale cost $30 from Amazon.  the app works 
well.  It is called 'fit index'.  I suppose the scale's name is the same.

At 01:16 PM 5/4/2021, you wrote:
I bought a Withings Body Plus scale and it does 
require sighted assistance to set up. the app 
seems not to register any weight that's 
different from what you program. The scale makes 
no beeps or anything to let you know that it's 
working, and it seems you have to stand on a 
certain section for the weight to show up. It's 
the health mate app, and the results show up in 
the Apple health app as well. It's not the best 
solution, but the best one I've found right now.

Matthew


On May 4, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I just saw an article about this scale, which 
sells for a not insignificant sum of $150 either 
directly from the vendor or from Amazon. 
Apparently, it gives you all sorts of 
measurements, and of course it connects with the 
iPhone. My question is: does anyone have this? 
If so, how well does it work with voiceover? 
Paying that much to get a bunch of measurements 
that I can’t read is not in my plan. Smile.

Mary


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reading e-mail on iphone while exercising

[Dean Martineau]

A trainee asked me about apps that would allow her to set her mail to
reading while she's on the bike or treadmill so she doesn't have to interact
with the phone much or at all, except possibly with her voice.  She's a
VoiceOver user.  Is there a way to do this. 

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org
 

 

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RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Malcolm,

I'm not normally a fan of insurance for electronics but I make the exception 
with Apple Care Plus for my iPhones. Since the iPhone is pricey and since I'm 
carrying it around with me and often using it around potential hazards like 
open toilets, I've decided to pony up for Apple Care Plus whenever I purchase a 
new iPhone. I'll have to price its cost when I get my next new iPhone since I 
haven't used Apple Care to replace a phone since my iPhone 5's headphone jack 
died.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.



As we all know our iPhones are a significant investment and an inconvenience if 
we’re deprived of their use.

What are people’s view on Apple Care+ is it worth it?

There are a number of insurers designed specifically for gadgets like iPhones 
and there is the possibility of insurance on one’s hous contents too.

Then there’s the option to simply trust to luck and save money.

What are people’s thoughts?Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: Tiles versus tags

[Paul JOrdan]

There are some tiles with replaceable batteries.

I got mine last summer and have replaced the batteries once.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

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Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tiles versus tags

 

I don’t’ know the current price of Tiles, but Airtags seem a tad bit expensive.

But, AirTags have a replaceable battery, which unless they have changed, Tiles 
did not.

 

I would like someone to do a comparison of the sound volume.

When Tiles were fairly new, I thought they would be a great thing for some of 
our older clients, but the sound was so low volume they were next to useless.

 

It seems from the demo at the Apple Event, that you can track them more 
accurately than the Tiles.

 

That is all I know, and guess.

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site:   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

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Donald L. Roberts
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Subject: Tiles versus tags

 

I am writing to ask for a bit of clarification. I do understand that air tags 
can be traced and located outside the user's immediate area; otherwise, just 
what are the defining characteristics of air tags as compared with tiles?

 

Thanks.

 

Don Roberts

 

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RE: Sleep Number Bed App

[Carla]

Thanks so much!  This is good to know about the up and down for the head and 
feet!  Thank God the phone app works if the remote is not accessible at all for 
us.
 
Carla
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rizzino, 
Bonnie
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sleep Number Bed App
 
Carla,
It is fairly accessible.
 
The one thing that was a little strange is that when going in to adjust your 
head or feet levels on the adjustable base, you have to hold the up arrow and 
the down arrow to make the adjustment.
The remote is not at all usable for a blind person.
 
Bonnie Rizzino 
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Blind and Vision Rehabilitation Services of Pittsburgh
1816 Locust St.
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
  www.bvrspittsburgh.org
412-368-4400 X2246
Direct dial 412-368-4079
 
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I'm getting a new Sleep Number bed and it has the app on the iPhone.  Does 
anyone have this and if so is it totally accessible?  Thanks for any info.
 
Carla
 
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RE: Sleep Number Bed App

[Rizzino, Bonnie]

Carla,
It is fairly accessible.

The one thing that was a little strange is that when going in to adjust your 
head or feet levels on the adjustable base, you have to hold the up arrow and 
the down arrow to make the adjustment.
The remote is not at all usable for a blind person.

Bonnie Rizzino
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Pittsburgh, PA 15219
www.bvrspittsburgh.org
412-368-4400 X2246
Direct dial 412-368-4079

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
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I'm getting a new Sleep Number bed and it has the app on the iPhone.  Does 
anyone have this and if so is it totally accessible?  Thanks for any info.

Carla

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RE: Tiles versus tags

[Richard Turner]

I don't' know the current price of Tiles, but Airtags seem a tad bit expensive.
But, AirTags have a replaceable battery, which unless they have changed, Tiles 
did not.

I would like someone to do a comparison of the sound volume.
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It seems from the demo at the Apple Event, that you can track them more 
accurately than the Tiles.

That is all I know, and guess.


Richard
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they become by it."
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Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
L. Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 11:12 AM
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I am writing to ask for a bit of clarification. I do understand that air tags 
can be traced and located outside the user's immediate area; otherwise, just 
what are the defining characteristics of air tags as compared with tiles?



Thanks.



Don Roberts


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Re: Withings scale

[Matthew Bullis]

I bought a Withings Body Plus scale and it does require sighted assistance to 
set up. the app seems not to register any weight that's different from what you 
program. The scale makes no beeps or anything to let you know that it's 
working, and it seems you have to stand on a certain section for the weight to 
show up. It's the health mate app, and the results show up in the Apple health 
app as well. It's not the best solution, but the best one I've found right now.
Matthew


On May 4, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I just saw an article about this scale, which sells for a not insignificant 
sum of $150 either directly from the vendor or from Amazon. Apparently, it 
gives you all sorts of measurements, and of course it connects with the iPhone. 
My question is: does anyone have this? If so, how well does it work with 
voiceover? Paying that much to get a bunch of measurements that I can’t read is 
not in my plan. Smile.
Mary


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Tiles versus tags

[Donald L. Roberts]

I am writing to ask for a bit of clarification. I do understand that air 
tags can be traced and located outside the user's immediate area; 
otherwise, just what are the defining characteristics of air tags as 
compared with tiles?



Thanks.


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Trouble with attachments

[Marcia Yale]

I upgraded to IOS14.5.1 yesterday. Today I received an email and I was able
to find the attachment on my PC, but the same email seemed to be
attachment-free when checked on my iPhone. Has anyone else found this
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RE: Preferred calendar app recommendations

[Richard Turner]

I just use the default calendar app.

I tried Fantastical and loved it under version 2.  Then they went and made 
version 3 which I guess if you do not subscribe to their highway robbery 
pricing package, you can still use it mostly; but the native calendar app has 
improved greatly.

I can easily set appointments either manually or with Siri.
I can set custom reoccurrences with up to two alerts.
I can easily invite others to a meeting.
I have it syncing with my Outlook so I can check my computer or my phone.
 
I can add notes as desired.

I have no cons at this point for my needs.


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Subject: Preferred calendar app recommendations

Greetings. I use a specific app to manage my calendar, but am interested in 
recommendations from others regarding their preferred calendar app. What do you 
use, why do you use it, what do you like about it, etc.? If you can, please 
give me some positives and negatives about your preferred app.

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Preferred calendar app recommendations

[Wayne Merritt]

Greetings. I use a specific app to manage my calendar, but am
interested in recommendations from others regarding their preferred
calendar app. What do you use, why do you use it, what do you like
about it, etc.? If you can, please give me some positives and
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RE: Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or Mac/iOS, updated info about the Applications key

[Richard Turner]

I use the USB Dongle with my Windows computer.
You could easily use it via Bluetooth with your Mac.
I realized after sending my updated review, that if you want the Scroll Lock it 
is function key plus app menu key.
That App Menu key has the little SC on it, along with the icon for the 
Applications key.

If yu get it from Amazon, or another source, make sure you have the option to 
return it if you don't like it.
But, you likely will love it.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Greg 
Wocher
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or 
Mac/iOS, updated info about the Applications key

Hello,
Thanks for this description of this keyboard. I have been looking at it for a 
while trying to decide if I want to get it. I have been looking for a good 
split keyboard like this.  I also use both Mac and Windows so this would easily 
let me switch between my Mac and Windows machine. I think I might go ahead and 
get this keyboard soon.

Greg Wocher



On May 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or Mac/iOS

I needed a new keyboard as my 15-year-old USB keyboard was starting to have 
problems with a few keys and my old hands are deciding that it is time to go 
back to an ergonomic keyboard.
So, after doing some research, I settled on what is rated as one of the better 
ergonomic keyboards.

I was not set on wireless, but that is the way the world is going and since I 
like Logitech products in general, I went with this one.
Logitech K860 Split wireless Ergonomic keyboard.  It is pricy at $130.
I'll start with the negatives.

Cons:
(When I first wrote this up, I thought there was no Applications Key, but there 
is, listed as number 8 under Pros.)
1.  Only one Windows key on the left.
2.  No accessible documentation.  And no true documentation about the 
hieroglyphic symbols   used on some of the keys.
3.  It is too easy to toggle to the media functions for the function keys.
4.  It is pretty large.  Left to right it is the same width as my standard 
Wired USB keyboard.  Front to back it is about 1.5 times as deep.  And, of 
course, much higher off the desk at the front edge due to the curve for the 
ergonomics of the thing.
5.  *Not really a con, just the nature of ergonomic keyboards, but the split is 
between the 6 and 7, (and f6 and f7) keys, so for touch typists, the habit of 
hitting the 6and F6 with your right index finger has to be retrained.

Pros:
1.  It is probably the most comfortable keyboard I have ever typed on.  The 
wrist rest is quite comfortable, and for me, at the right height Plus, it has 
feet under the front edge so you can raise it up to a more level arrangement 
which fits me perfectly.  It is already on a slight angle so no real need for 
feet in the back.
2.  Easy setup with or without the Logitech Options package.  I plugged in the 
USB receiver turned on the keyboard and Windows 10 had no trouble communicating 
with it.  There is a little key next to the f12 key that toggles you between 
standard function keys and the media function keys.  Easy to press accidentally.
3.  It takes two triple A batteries, and they say that they will last 2 years.  
I believe it based on my experience with the K480.
4.  This is a full-sized keyboard with the number pad.
5.  If I used the Windows Calculator more, this has a designated key above the 
Num-lock key to launch the Windows Calculator.
6.  It can connect to 3 devices.  Either 3 Bluetooth devices or 1 USB and 2 
Bluetooth, and/or possibly 2 USB devices and one Bluetooth, that isn't clear.  
Connecting it to my iPhone was easy after I called their support line.
The three keys for switching between devices are right above the 6 pack, making 
it a 9 pack.
It is tremendously easy to switch devices.  I wanted to check a key function on 
my iPhone while I was writing this, so I tapped the iPhone key, (for me device 
3)  did my checking, tapped the computer key, (device 1), and finished writing 
this in Word on my computer.
7.  It has a physical on/off switch located on the back edge and slightly under 
it.  If you feel where the split is between f6 and f7, and slide your finger 
straight back, you are on it.  Flipped to the right is on.
8.  There is an Applications key after all, it is the second key from the top 
right most key..  It is easy to toggle between the standard function keys and 
the media function keys.  I know, I listed this under the cons, but for some it 
would also be a pro.

For anyone else who has, or ends up with this keyboard, here is the key layout 
that involves the missing or extra keys.

ON the very top row, it is mostly standard, but h

RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

[Carolyn]

Sieghard, I think that is a great idea. I have not bought Apple Care lately 
because of the cost. Now, $30 a year sounds well worth it! 

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Subject: RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

I find that Apple Care Plus now is so expensive especially if you have a Pro 
phone that I personally don't buy it any more. I have my iPhone insured as part 
of my home insurance where it is listed as a separate item and I think it's 
something like $30 or $40 a year. The good thing in my opinion is that for one 
thing this also covers loss or theft and secondly if I keep my phone for more 
than 2 years I still have coverage whereas Apple Care Plus is done after 2 
years. Of course you have to check with your particular insurance company what 
all the conditions are, e.g. if you did have a claim, would that effect your 
overall home insurance rate, what exactly is covered, e.g. what if you drop it 
and the screen breaks etc. I did loose my iPhone 6S Plus many years ago and my 
home insurance paid me the full purchase price at the time without fuss and I 
didn't even have to send in a receipt or anything, they sent me a cheque and 
said it was up to me what I wanted to do with it, e.g. buy a new iPhone 6S Plus 
or a different phone or whatever.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.



As we all know our iPhones are a significant investment and an inconvenience if 
we’re deprived of their use.

What are people’s view on Apple Care+ is it worth it?

There are a number of insurers designed specifically for gadgets like iPhones 
and there is the possibility of insurance on one’s hous contents too.

Then there’s the option to simply trust to luck and save money.

What are people’s thoughts?Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: alternative pod cast player

[Traci Duncan]

For a little while now, I’ve been trying out this app.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pocket-casts/id414834813
So far, I am really liking it. I haven’t done the paid program yet, but I’m 
considering it.

HTH,
Traci

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  I've used it for years with no account.
> I have a bunch of podcasts that I subscribed to.
> I prefer it not to download; but in the settings you can make it download.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
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> 
> 
>>> On May 3, 2021, at 3:41 PM, regina alvarado  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  A question for those who use overcast. On my phone I have overcast which I 
>> never signed into. I have used it for practically the whole time I’ve had 
>> iPhones which is since 2012. Possibly 2014 or so I don’t know when it came 
>> out, but I’ve never signed into it. On my iPad when I want to go in and look 
>> at a podcast on overcastit wants me to sign in. It does not download the 
>> podcasts that I listen to. How can I get overcast to do this without signing 
>> in? I think if I made my own login I would have to start from the beginning 
>> since I never signed in in the first place. Any help is appreciated. Thanks 
>> so much. I really don’t want to have to download or subscribe I should say  
>> to the podcasts again.
>> 
>> Reggie Alvarado 
>> 
>> On May 3, 2021, at 6:26 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone checked out pod bean? It gets at least one of my podcasts faster than 
>> what appears on the native podcatcher.
>> 
>> On May 3, 2021, at 5:48 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I like icatcher a lot. It isn’t free but well worth the $5 in my opinion.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: alternative pod cast player
>>  
>> get Overcast. You won't look back. It is so far superior to the native 
>> podcast app that I do not have the words to explain.
>> Try it out and check out the settings.
>> It is free.
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> Richard 
>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>  
>> www.turner42.com
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On May 3, 2021, at 2:26 PM, Dan  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have been using the podcast player that comes with Iphones.  However, for 
>> the past few software releases one of the functions I really liked about it 
>> has gone away.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I really liked the way I could download an episode and then tell it to add 
>> that episode to the up next list.  Now though, that seems to have gone away 
>> so I can't find a way to add an episode to a up next kind of list.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Is there a free podcast player app out there that is accessible and will let 
>> me do this kind of thing?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
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Re: Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or Mac/iOS, updated info about the Applications key

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
Thanks for this description of this keyboard. I have been looking at it for a 
while trying to decide if I want to get it. I have been looking for a good 
split keyboard like this.  I also use both Mac and Windows so this would easily 
let me switch between my Mac and Windows machine. I think I might go ahead and 
get this keyboard soon.

Greg Wocher


> On May 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or Mac/iOS
>  
> I needed a new keyboard as my 15-year-old USB keyboard was starting to have 
> problems with a few keys and my old hands are deciding that it is time to go 
> back to an ergonomic keyboard.
> So, after doing some research, I settled on what is rated as one of the 
> better ergonomic keyboards.
>  
> I was not set on wireless, but that is the way the world is going and since I 
> like Logitech products in general, I went with this one.
> Logitech K860 Split wireless Ergonomic keyboard.  It is pricy at $130.
> I'll start with the negatives.
>  
> Cons:
> (When I first wrote this up, I thought there was no Applications Key, but 
> there is, listed as number 8 under Pros.)
> 1.  Only one Windows key on the left.
> 2.  No accessible documentation.  And no true documentation about the 
> hieroglyphic symbols   used on some of the keys.
> 3.  It is too easy to toggle to the media functions for the function keys.
> 4.  It is pretty large.  Left to right it is the same width as my standard 
> Wired USB keyboard.  Front to back it is about 1.5 times as deep.  And, of 
> course, much higher off the desk at the front edge due to the curve for the 
> ergonomics of the thing.
> 5.  *Not really a con, just the nature of ergonomic keyboards, but the split 
> is between the 6 and 7, (and f6 and f7) keys, so for touch typists, the habit 
> of hitting the 6and F6 with your right index finger has to be retrained.
>  
> Pros:
> 1.  It is probably the most comfortable keyboard I have ever typed on.  The 
> wrist rest is quite comfortable, and for me, at the right height Plus, it has 
> feet under the front edge so you can raise it up to a more level arrangement 
> which fits me perfectly.  It is already on a slight angle so no real need for 
> feet in the back.
> 2.  Easy setup with or without the Logitech Options package.  I plugged in 
> the USB receiver turned on the keyboard and Windows 10 had no trouble 
> communicating with it.  There is a little key next to the f12 key that 
> toggles you between standard function keys and the media function keys.  Easy 
> to press accidentally.
> 3.  It takes two triple A batteries, and they say that they will last 2 
> years.  I believe it based on my experience with the K480.
> 4.  This is a full-sized keyboard with the number pad.
> 5.  If I used the Windows Calculator more, this has a designated key above 
> the Num-lock key to launch the Windows Calculator.
> 6.  It can connect to 3 devices.  Either 3 Bluetooth devices or 1 USB and 2 
> Bluetooth, and/or possibly 2 USB devices and one Bluetooth, that isn't clear. 
>  Connecting it to my iPhone was easy after I called their support line.
> The three keys for switching between devices are right above the 6 pack, 
> making it a 9 pack.
> It is tremendously easy to switch devices.  I wanted to check a key function 
> on my iPhone while I was writing this, so I tapped the iPhone key, (for me 
> device 3)  did my checking, tapped the computer key, (device 1), and finished 
> writing this in Word on my computer.
> 7.  It has a physical on/off switch located on the back edge and slightly 
> under it.  If you feel where the split is between f6 and f7, and slide your 
> finger straight back, you are on it.  Flipped to the right is on.
> 8.  There is an Applications key after all, it is the second key from the top 
> right most key..  It is easy to toggle between the standard function keys and 
> the media function keys.  I know, I listed this under the cons, but for some 
> it would also be a pro.
>  
> For anyone else who has, or ends up with this keyboard, here is the key 
> layout that involves the missing or extra keys.
>  
> ON the very top row, it is mostly standard, but here goes starting from the 
> top left key:
> Escape
> F1
> f2
> f3
> f4
> f5
> f6
> f7
> f8
> f9
> f10
> f11
> f12
> The Function Toggle
> Print Screen, which is longer than the other keys.
> Device 1
> Device 2
> Device 3
> Calculator key
> Battery indicator with one of the hieroglyphic symbols my wife couldn't 
> identify).
> I am guessing that is for use with the Logitech Options software.
> App Menu, Applications Key
> Windows Lock key.  This key allows you to lock your computer, so you need the 
> password to get back into it, also accomplished with WindowsKey+l.
> * Note that the Function Toggle key is directly above the left edge of the 
> backspace key, and the print screen key is above the rest of the backspace 
> key.
>  
> The first row where the space bar is

Withings scale

[Mary Otten]

I just saw an article about this scale, which sells for a not insignificant sum 
of $150 either directly from the vendor or from Amazon. Apparently, it gives 
you all sorts of measurements, and of course it connects with the iPhone. My 
question is: does anyone have this? If so, how well does it work with 
voiceover? Paying that much to get a bunch of measurements that I can’t read is 
not in my plan. Smile.
Mary


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Re: apps invisible

[Richard Turner]

Try taking messages out of the app switcher, and launching it again, then try 
the double tap.



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On May 4, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Albert Brown  wrote:

Hello,
In the messaging app there is an icon which shows hidden apps.
unfortunately its now its saying "apps visible". Double
Tapping
Doesn't change anything

I preferred to have hidden apps.
Is there a setting I am missing.

ALBERT

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Re: Setting up Hey Siri

[Kait Forbes]

That is funny and You are so right!

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 11:02 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Just like so many things which don't enter your mind any more when you are
> 103 yeas old 😂
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Mr. Ed
> *Sent:* Monday, May 3, 2021 4:21 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Setting up Hey Siri
>
>
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> You are right as I forgot about that part when I wrote those instructions.
> I was just trying to write some basic instructions for when she turns on
> VO. It been so long since I have setup the voice for Hey Siri it didn’t
> enter my mind.
>
> Mr. Ed
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Monday, May 03, 2021 1:53 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Setting up Hey Siri
>
>
>
> You cannot setup Hey Siri without going through the steps of training her
> to your voice, or at least a voice.
>
> I just tried it on a phone that had no Siri history.
>
>
>
> You can turn on using Siri with the Home Button, but whether you do that
> or not, if you try to turn on Listen for Hey Siri, and do not go through
> the training steps, it stays turned off.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
> what they become by it."
>
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
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apps invisible

[Albert Brown]

Hello, 
In the messaging app there is an icon which shows hidden apps.
unfortunately its now its saying "apps visible". Double 
Tapping 
Doesn't change anything  

I preferred to have hidden apps.
Is there a setting I am missing.

ALBERT

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Re: In need of assistance

[Kait Forbes]

Donna,
Thanks.  I will keep that in mind.  Good words to follow, In fact that is
what I am going to do. I have received so much information from this site
and I thank my lucky stars it was recommended to me.  I feel fortunate and
I now have a basis to which I can follow.  Lots and Lots of good stuff.
And lots of work.  Thanks to all you good people.
Kait

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 12:56 AM Donna Casteen 
wrote:

> Kait, you are a granddaughter to be admired & treasured. I want to share
> my story with you. I lost my vision at age 45 following surgery. Being
> thrown into blindness was difficult to accept & have to deal with,
> everything was abruptly taken away, my independence, pride, self
> confidence, interests/hobbies, the beauty of nature, the smiles on the
> faces of family & friends…Everything! I spent 3 years cycling through the
> first 4 stages of grief, denial, anger, bargaining & depression, before
> finally reaching the fifth & final stage, acceptance. When “I” felt that
> “I” was close to putting a stage of grief behind me & move on to the next
> stage, someone in my life would say or do something that would set me back.
> Even though their comments or actions were said & done with the best
> intentions & my well being in mind- I saw the actions as them rushing me to
> heal, while showing me that they did not have confidence in my ability to
> find “My” own way to do things that would work for “Me.” Like you, my best
> friend of 30+ years & my parents felt that it was very important for me to
> learn to use a smartphone so that they could keep in contact with me & they
> thought that a smartphone would aid in my independence. Learning to use a
> smartphone was at the bottom of my “New Normal” bucket list, especially
> when my flip phone was still usable & would solve  their problem of them
> needing to be in constant contact with me, because of their worries of me
> being alone. Labeling the microwave, stove, washer, dryer, helping to
> organize the kitchen food pantry, the refrigerator, the cleaning & personal
> care items was what I needed & wanted the most. Things that would give me a
> sense of independence & the feeling of accomplishment when I was able to
> prepare my own food, take care of my personal needs & clean my own house.
> Why not use a dot of puff paint to mark the answer call & some of the
> numbers on the dial pad on her flip phone? get her an AlexaShow  & setup
> contacts & Alexa calling. The AlexaShow is simpler to teach, easier to
> learn to use, being that it works by voice commands & can do almost
> everything that her having a smartphone can do. She can make & accept
> calls, send text messages, listen to music & books, play games & have items
> identified for her. Leave the smartphone with voiceover on with her. Show
> her how to turn the phone on & how to charge the phone. Encourage her to
> explore the phone alone, let her interest & curiosity guide her, not what
> you think that she needs to learn.  Be supportive by letting her try to do
> things on her own before you offer suggestions, advice or guidance, but do
> not step in & complete a task for her, unless she agrees to let you do so.
> I do not accept change well. I am stubborn & my pride & self independence
> sometimes gets in the way of me asking for help. Once my family & friends
> stepped back & let me take the lead in showing what my abilities were, it
> made their wanting to step in & help easier for me to accept. Feeling
> helpless & useless to oneself & to others is a very dark & lonely place to
> be.Don’t forget that your Grandma needs her own sunshine.
>
> Donna
>
> My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that
> and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and
> I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she
> need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will
> only be for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I
> feel more secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am
> pressured to have some form of continuity and safety and having a phone
> would be number one priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any
> form of help it may offer.  I hope this explanation will help?
>
> thank you ,
>
> kait
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer 
> wrote:
>
> May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use
> one.
>
> If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides
> players so no need for a phone.
>
> What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by
> other means?
>
> Would an Alexa be easier for her?
>
>
>
> I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the
> phone is so important?
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Kait Forbes 
> *Sent: *Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.co

Re: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

[Joe Orozco]

Check your credit card as well. I pay for my cell phone with the Uber
card, because it gives me phone insurance. There are cards with such a
protection as partof your perks.--Joe

On 5/4/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> You have a good point their Sieghard on the increased price.  Maybe it isn't
> worth it on the pro models.
> I will check with our insurance, that is a good deal.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
> what they become by it."
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.
>
> I find that Apple Care Plus now is so expensive especially if you have a Pro
> phone that I personally don't buy it any more. I have my iPhone insured as
> part of my home insurance where it is listed as a separate item and I think
> it's something like $30 or $40 a year. The good thing in my opinion is that
> for one thing this also covers loss or theft and secondly if I keep my phone
> for more than 2 years I still have coverage whereas Apple Care Plus is done
> after 2 years. Of course you have to check with your particular insurance
> company what all the conditions are, e.g. if you did have a claim, would
> that effect your overall home insurance rate, what exactly is covered, e.g.
> what if you drop it and the screen breaks etc. I did loose my iPhone 6S Plus
> many years ago and my home insurance paid me the full purchase price at the
> time without fuss and I didn't even have to send in a receipt or anything,
> they sent me a cheque and said it was up to me what I wanted to do with it,
> e.g. buy a new iPhone 6S Plus or a different phone or whatever.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.
>
>
>
> As we all know our iPhones are a significant investment and an inconvenience
> if we're deprived of their use.
>
> What are people's view on Apple Care+ is it worth it?
>
> There are a number of insurers designed specifically for gadgets like
> iPhones and there is the possibility of insurance on one's hous contents
> too.
>
> Then there's the option to simply trust to luck and save money.
>
> What are people's thoughts?Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

[Richard Turner]

You have a good point their Sieghard on the increased price.  Maybe it isn't 
worth it on the pro models.
I will check with our insurance, that is a good deal.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

I find that Apple Care Plus now is so expensive especially if you have a Pro 
phone that I personally don't buy it any more. I have my iPhone insured as part 
of my home insurance where it is listed as a separate item and I think it's 
something like $30 or $40 a year. The good thing in my opinion is that for one 
thing this also covers loss or theft and secondly if I keep my phone for more 
than 2 years I still have coverage whereas Apple Care Plus is done after 2 
years. Of course you have to check with your particular insurance company what 
all the conditions are, e.g. if you did have a claim, would that effect your 
overall home insurance rate, what exactly is covered, e.g. what if you drop it 
and the screen breaks etc. I did loose my iPhone 6S Plus many years ago and my 
home insurance paid me the full purchase price at the time without fuss and I 
didn't even have to send in a receipt or anything, they sent me a cheque and 
said it was up to me what I wanted to do with it, e.g. buy a new iPhone 6S Plus 
or a different phone or whatever.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.



As we all know our iPhones are a significant investment and an inconvenience if 
we're deprived of their use.

What are people's view on Apple Care+ is it worth it?

There are a number of insurers designed specifically for gadgets like iPhones 
and there is the possibility of insurance on one's hous contents too.

Then there's the option to simply trust to luck and save money.

What are people's thoughts?Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

[Richard Turner]

I always had Renters insurance when I rented, and of course, now that we are 
buying, home owners insurance.
I always buy Apple Care and it has been worth it on 3 different occasions in 
the second year, which is really what you are paying for.
Once, it was even good 3 months beyond the 2 years.  In brief, my wife's first 
iPad Mini wouldn't keep Wi-Fi connections.  Since I occasionally use it, I 
called Apple Accessibility.  Got a great guy who spent 90 minutes with us 
trouble shooting and sent us to the store to have the usual system reinstall.
It worked for about 30 minutes.
Called the Apple Accessibility guy back the next day (he had given us his 
extension.)
He spent another 2 and a half hours trying his best to fix it when he 
determined it was a Wi-Fi antenna failure.
 This was an iPad Mini 2.  He said, and I quote, "Aple can afford to give you a 
replacement."
So, he arranged for her to get an iPad Mini 2, refurbished, which is still 
functional though only used with the Great, Great, Nephews.
I bought her the iPad mini 5 when it came out since the old one was so out of 
date etc

Don't expect that from all Apple Accessibility people.

Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



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Parfitt
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Subject: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.



As we all know our iPhones are a significant investment and an inconvenience if 
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What are people's view on Apple Care+ is it worth it?

There are a number of insurers designed specifically for gadgets like iPhones 
and there is the possibility of insurance on one's hous contents too.

Then there's the option to simply trust to luck and save money.

What are people's thoughts?Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I find that Apple Care Plus now is so expensive especially if you have a Pro 
phone that I personally don't buy it any more. I have my iPhone insured as part 
of my home insurance where it is listed as a separate item and I think it's 
something like $30 or $40 a year. The good thing in my opinion is that for one 
thing this also covers loss or theft and secondly if I keep my phone for more 
than 2 years I still have coverage whereas Apple Care Plus is done after 2 
years. Of course you have to check with your particular insurance company what 
all the conditions are, e.g. if you did have a claim, would that effect your 
overall home insurance rate, what exactly is covered, e.g. what if you drop it 
and the screen breaks etc. I did loose my iPhone 6S Plus many years ago and my 
home insurance paid me the full purchase price at the time without fuss and I 
didn't even have to send in a receipt or anything, they sent me a cheque and 
said it was up to me what I wanted to do with it, e.g. buy a new iPhone 6S Plus 
or a different phone or whatever.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Care+ or other insurance products.



As we all know our iPhones are a significant investment and an inconvenience if 
we’re deprived of their use.

What are people’s view on Apple Care+ is it worth it?

There are a number of insurers designed specifically for gadgets like iPhones 
and there is the possibility of insurance on one’s hous contents too.

Then there’s the option to simply trust to luck and save money.

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Apple Care+ or other insurance products.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

As we all know our iPhones are a significant investment and an inconvenience if 
we’re deprived of their use.

What are people’s view on Apple Care+ is it worth it?

There are a number of insurers designed specifically for gadgets like iPhones 
and there is the possibility of insurance on one’s hous contents too.

Then there’s the option to simply trust to luck and save money.

What are people’s thoughts?Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: In need of assistance

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Kait,

I think if you can convince your Grandmother to give the iPhone a try it will 
be a goo dthing, but I agree with Sandy and was going to recommend the Amazon 
Echo speakers. One advantage you have if you placed even an Amazon Dot in your 
Grandmother's place or maybe 2 depending on how large her place is) would be 
that you could "drop in" as it is called. If you have a smartphone of any type 
or another Echo speaker at your place and if you set the devices at your 
grandmother's house/apartment up with the same Amazon Account they essentially 
become an intercom system. We have several Echo speakers at our house and I 
also have one at my office which is about a mile from my home, but it really 
doesn't matter if it is a mile away or a thousand miles away. All speakers are 
set up under my Amazon account and if I am in my office and I know my wife is 
at home, I can simply say to my office speaker "Alexa drop in at the living 
room" and a few seconds later the
Echo in our living room will beep a few times and then a 2-way audio channel 
will be open and I can talk to my wife. If both Echos are the ones with a 
screen that connection becomes a video connection. Once again, not saying you 
shouldn't try to teach your Grandmother how to use an iPhone, but the Echo Dot 
speakers are quite inexpensive and the iOS and Android Amazon Echo app is o 
fcourse free so it would be a relatively simple and inexpensive thing to also 
set this up. Alternatively there are a number of internet connected security 
cameras out there which would give you both a video and 2-way audio connection 
as well, the Nest Cam IQ is one of them, but it is significantly more expensive.

From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

just a suggestion, I would get her an echo..Dot
you could use the phone to set up contacts and get the dot working, and provide 
a hotspot if she doesn't have Wi-Fi. she could just ask it to play a different 
radio stations, call people, listen to the news, play games, tell her jokes, 
pay music in this event is and it's so easy to interact with
Best wishes, Sandy

Sent from The dark side of the moon


On 3 May 2021, at 19:14, Maria Campbell  wrote:


Some older people can be quite ornery and set in their ways.  My father-in-law 
was that way at first, but he came around at the end and accepted assistance.  
Good luck to you in your efforts.



Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke
On 5/3/2021 2:07 PM, Kait Forbes wrote:
My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that and 
understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and I wish 
not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she need help 
when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will only be for a 
short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I feel more secure  
knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am pressured to have some form 
of continuity and safety and having a phone would be number one priority.  I am 
reaching out to this community for any form of help it may offer.  I hope this 
explanation will help?
thank you ,
kait

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use one.
If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides players 
so no need for a phone.
What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by other 
means?
Would an Alexa be easier for her?

I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the phone 
is so important?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kait Forbes
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains to the 
blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her thing.  She is  
aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in this position to teach 
anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive criticism and hard work.  
She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are starting from scratch and she 
refuses at this point to let someone help her.  I know this is her denial stage 
but if I can get her to just pick up the darn phone it's a start.

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is your 
Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and has 
an understanding abut basic concepts or would i

RE: Bose frames

[rick.alfaro]

I believe he was referring to head tracking which the Tempo doesn't support 
currently. Other than the head tracking, the Tempos work great with SoundScape.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

yes, they do.
- Original Message - 
From: "Yohandy" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Bose frames


Hey there all,

Any idea if these glasses support Microsoft Soundscape? I think the old
model did, that's what I read anyway, but not sure about these new sport
ones. apparently it uses their accelerometers and such to pinpoint
things, which sounds super cool. I was thinking of picking up a pair.
thanks in advance for any help!



On 5/3/2021 3:35 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There 
> are other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours 
> whereas the others have 6.
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Casey Wollner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>
> Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
> And about how much do they cost?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> rick.alf...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>
> Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
> headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap 
> around style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some 
> of the others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I 
> wear them every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books 
> and they also work great for making and answering phone calls. They are 
> expensive but work the best for me.
>
> My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way 
> that AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" 
> when issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
> unnecessary with other brands.
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Bose frames
>
> Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not 
> block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset 
> by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great 
> so I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing 
> now is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, 
> I would like to have a bit more privacy but at the same time have total 
> ability of hearing traffic and other sounds around me.  Although I 
> mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just want a quality piece of 
> equipment that will be comfortable and sounds great and looks good. 
> Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy and Leroy
>
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
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RE: In need of assistance

[Carolyn]

I'm with you, Shirley, tend to do more asking than answering. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shirley Tracy
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 8:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

While you have spoken truth, please be aware that Kate is asking for help, not 
criticism. I’m sure she knows this list can’t give her a magic formula. I 
admire her for being brave and trying. 

 

We have to remember we all come from different backgrounds and experiences. 
Personally, I can ask some pretty annoying questions, because I’m not a great 
I-Phone user. I’m not nearly as advanced as most of you. But I ask so I can 
learn. And I’m better than I was last year. 

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Star Gazer  
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

 

There is a phone called the Lively Flip that may be more useful then an Iphone. 

I see their ads when I’m watching Judge Judy and some of the old shows on Me 
Tv. 

That may be more your grandma’s speed (and maybe yours too) then an Iphone. 

Remember, and a lot of people make this mistake, just because something is 
designed with blindness in mind, doesn’t mean it is inherently easy to use, 
sometimes just the opposite can happen. 

If your grandma wanted to learn an Iphone, then it is set up so that she could 
do that, but if she doesn’t, and you yourself don’t use one, I don’t know why 
this idea is so stuck in your head. 

This community can’t make you or your grandma want to use an Iphone, it can’t 
make its inherent nature into something you or she will find enjoyable. 

What we could do is tell you how your grandma can download audio books or tell 
you how to download audio books for her. 

We can tell her how to send a picture to the grandkids.  We can tell her/you 
how to save a picture the grandkids sent her. 

We can tell her/you how to text. 

We can’t make her do any of these things. 

Given what you’ve said, I’d look at the Lively Flip which seems like it may 
come with some other services you guys may find useful. 

 

Please understand again just because grandma can’t see doesn’t mean this list 
can hit a magic button and make her the best and most willing iPhone user on 
the planet.  We can’t do this for anybody. 

 

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows 10

 

From: Kait Forbes  
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that and 
understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and I wish 
not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she need help 
when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will only be for a 
short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I feel more secure  
knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am pressured to have some form 
of continuity and safety and having a phone would be number one priority.  I am 
reaching out to this community for any form of help it may offer.  I hope this 
explanation will help?

thank you ,

kait

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use 
one. 

If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides 
players so no need for a phone. 

What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished 
by other means? 

Would an Alexa be easier for her? 

 

I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the 
phone is so important?

 

Sent from Mail   for 
Windows 10

 

From: Kait Forbes  
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it 
pertains to the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her 
thing.  She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in this 
position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive criticism 
and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are starting from 
scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help her.  I know this is 
her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up the darn phone it's a 
start. 

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Are you sighted trying to help

RE: In need of assistance

[Carolyn]

The Jitter Bug is the one for older people, but not helpful if you do not have 
usable sight. 

I'm 83, use iPhone, but years of experience of blindness makes a big 
difference. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 6:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In need of assistance

Hi Kait,

 

The majority of people on this list are very helpful and will go  out of their 
way to assist if we can.

 

I think starting with the iphone is a great option for your gran,

 

However knowing what my sighted 83 year old mother is like, 

It could be a big learning curve for her,

 

But hey it sounds like you have a lot of patients towards helping her the best 
you can.

 

Depending on how she finds the phone to use for a start,

There is a phone out there which I can’t remember the details of but is built 
for the older generations with voice output and larger buttons if that might be 
a more possible option for her.

 

But until you work that one out with her ,

 

By all means keep throwing the questions at us and we’ll answer for you the 
best we can.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2021 8:27 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

Stargazer,

Wish i knew how to respond to this email?  I assure you I was not looking for a 
magic bullet but instructions on  how to set up my Gran's phone for her.  
Thought a little background would help.  Did not think that would  offend 
anyone? The reason I chose this particular phone was for the siri.or anything 
voice related.  I do not wish to stress her out over anything at this time.  
But a phone in any form is a preference to nothing at all.  If it doesn't pan 
out, I intend to keep looking.  Things aren't set in stone.  I really thought 
and was given to believe that this was the site to come to for phone support on 
a personal level .It gives one that comradery feeling.  I think if you want to 
know and learn something that is so darn important, go to the source.   I still 
believe that sighted or not.

Thank you for your advice and support and I will also try and keep in mind what 
I am here for.

Kait

 

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 3:14 PM Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

There is a phone called the Lively Flip that may be more useful then an 
Iphone. 

I see their ads when I’m watching Judge Judy and some of the old shows 
on Me Tv. 

That may be more your grandma’s speed (and maybe yours too) then an 
Iphone. 

Remember, and a lot of people make this mistake, just because something 
is designed with blindness in mind, doesn’t mean it is inherently easy to use, 
sometimes just the opposite can happen. 

If your grandma wanted to learn an Iphone, then it is set up so that 
she could do that, but if she doesn’t, and you yourself don’t use one, I don’t 
know why this idea is so stuck in your head. 

This community can’t make you or your grandma want to use an Iphone, it 
can’t make its inherent nature into something you or she will find enjoyable. 

What we could do is tell you how your grandma can download audio books 
or tell you how to download audio books for her. 

We can tell her how to send a picture to the grandkids.  We can tell 
her/you how to save a picture the grandkids sent her. 

We can tell her/you how to text. 

We can’t make her do any of these things. 

Given what you’ve said, I’d look at the Lively Flip which seems like it 
may come with some other services you guys may find useful. 

 

Please understand again just because grandma can’t see doesn’t mean 
this list can hit a magic button and make her the best and most willing iPhone 
user on the planet.  We can’t do this for anybody. 

 

 

Sent from Mail   for 
Windows 10

 

From: Kait Forbes  
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: In need of assistance

 

My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect 
that and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be 
and I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she 
need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will only 
be for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I feel more 
secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am pressured to have 
some form of continuity and safety and having a phone would be number one 
priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any form of help it may 
offer.  I hope this explanation will help?

thank you ,

kait

 

   

RE: Bose frames

[rick.alfaro]

Hi. If you are referring to what they call head tracking, sadly no, the Frames 
tempo are not supported. I'd love to see this added if possible in a future 
firmware update but not sure if the Tempo has the necessary AR sensors. The 
models that are supported are the Alto and Rondo which are older models.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yohandy
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 12:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

Hey there all,

Any idea if these glasses support Microsoft Soundscape? I think the old model 
did, that's what I read anyway, but not sure about these new sport ones. 
apparently it uses their accelerometers and such to pinpoint things, which 
sounds super cool. I was thinking of picking up a pair. 
thanks in advance for any help!



On 5/3/2021 3:35 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There 
> are other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours 
> whereas the others have 6.
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Casey Wollner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>
> Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
> And about how much do they cost?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> rick.alf...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>
> Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
> headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around 
> style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the 
> others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them 
> every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also 
> work great for making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work 
> the best for me.
>
> My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
> AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when 
> issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
> unnecessary with other brands.
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Bose frames
>
> Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will 
> not block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another 
> headset by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that 
> sounds great so I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  
> What I am doing now is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  
> It works well but, I would like to have a bit more privacy but at the 
> same time have total ability of hearing traffic and other sounds 
> around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just 
> want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
> great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any 
> suggestions.  Andy and Leroy
>
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
>
> Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler 
> Notebook Talking Information Center
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Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or Mac/iOS, updated info about the Applications key

[Richard Turner]

Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or Mac/iOS

I needed a new keyboard as my 15-year-old USB keyboard was starting to have 
problems with a few keys and my old hands are deciding that it is time to go 
back to an ergonomic keyboard.
So, after doing some research, I settled on what is rated as one of the better 
ergonomic keyboards.

I was not set on wireless, but that is the way the world is going and since I 
like Logitech products in general, I went with this one.
Logitech K860 Split wireless Ergonomic keyboard.  It is pricy at $130.
I'll start with the negatives.

Cons:
(When I first wrote this up, I thought there was no Applications Key, but there 
is, listed as number 8 under Pros.)
1.  Only one Windows key on the left.
2.  No accessible documentation.  And no true documentation about the 
hieroglyphic symbols   used on some of the keys.
3.  It is too easy to toggle to the media functions for the function keys.
4.  It is pretty large.  Left to right it is the same width as my standard 
Wired USB keyboard.  Front to back it is about 1.5 times as deep.  And, of 
course, much higher off the desk at the front edge due to the curve for the 
ergonomics of the thing.
5.  *Not really a con, just the nature of ergonomic keyboards, but the split is 
between the 6 and 7, (and f6 and f7) keys, so for touch typists, the habit of 
hitting the 6and F6 with your right index finger has to be retrained.

Pros:
1.  It is probably the most comfortable keyboard I have ever typed on.  The 
wrist rest is quite comfortable, and for me, at the right height Plus, it has 
feet under the front edge so you can raise it up to a more level arrangement 
which fits me perfectly.  It is already on a slight angle so no real need for 
feet in the back.
2.  Easy setup with or without the Logitech Options package.  I plugged in the 
USB receiver turned on the keyboard and Windows 10 had no trouble communicating 
with it.  There is a little key next to the f12 key that toggles you between 
standard function keys and the media function keys.  Easy to press accidentally.
3.  It takes two triple A batteries, and they say that they will last 2 years.  
I believe it based on my experience with the K480.
4.  This is a full-sized keyboard with the number pad.
5.  If I used the Windows Calculator more, this has a designated key above the 
Num-lock key to launch the Windows Calculator.
6.  It can connect to 3 devices.  Either 3 Bluetooth devices or 1 USB and 2 
Bluetooth, and/or possibly 2 USB devices and one Bluetooth, that isn't clear.  
Connecting it to my iPhone was easy after I called their support line.
The three keys for switching between devices are right above the 6 pack, making 
it a 9 pack.
It is tremendously easy to switch devices.  I wanted to check a key function on 
my iPhone while I was writing this, so I tapped the iPhone key, (for me device 
3)  did my checking, tapped the computer key, (device 1), and finished writing 
this in Word on my computer.
7.  It has a physical on/off switch located on the back edge and slightly under 
it.  If you feel where the split is between f6 and f7, and slide your finger 
straight back, you are on it.  Flipped to the right is on.
8.  There is an Applications key after all, it is the second key from the top 
right most key..  It is easy to toggle between the standard function keys and 
the media function keys.  I know, I listed this under the cons, but for some it 
would also be a pro.

For anyone else who has, or ends up with this keyboard, here is the key layout 
that involves the missing or extra keys.

ON the very top row, it is mostly standard, but here goes starting from the top 
left key:
Escape
F1
f2
f3
f4
f5
f6
f7
f8
f9
f10
f11
f12
The Function Toggle
Print Screen, which is longer than the other keys.
Device 1
Device 2
Device 3
Calculator key
Battery indicator with one of the hieroglyphic symbols my wife couldn't 
identify).
I am guessing that is for use with the Logitech Options software.
App Menu, Applications Key
Windows Lock key.  This key allows you to lock your computer, so you need the 
password to get back into it, also accomplished with WindowsKey+l.
* Note that the Function Toggle key is directly above the left edge of the 
backspace key, and the print screen key is above the rest of the backspace key.

The first row where the space bar is located is laid out like this:
Control Key
Windows/Options Key
Alt/Command Key
Spacebar with the split in the middle
Alt/Command Key
Function key, which also seems to have the word Options, probably for 
Mac/iOS/iPadOS usage.
Control Key
Then your standard arrow keys followed by the standard numpad.


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: 
www.turner42.com

RE: Setting up Hey Siri

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just like so many things which don't enter your mind any more when you are 103 
yeas old 😂

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Setting up Hey Siri

Hi Richard,
You are right as I forgot about that part when I wrote those instructions. I 
was just trying to write some basic instructions for when she turns on VO. It 
been so long since I have setup the voice for Hey Siri it didn’t enter my mind.
Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2021 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Setting up Hey Siri

You cannot setup Hey Siri without going through the steps of training her to 
your voice, or at least a voice.
I just tried it on a phone that had no Siri history.

You can turn on using Siri with the Home Button, but whether you do that or 
not, if you try to turn on Listen for Hey Siri, and do not go through the 
training steps, it stays turned off.




Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com



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Re: Bose frames

[Robert Doc Wright]

yes, they do.
- Original Message - 
From: "Yohandy" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Bose frames


Hey there all,

Any idea if these glasses support Microsoft Soundscape? I think the old
model did, that's what I read anyway, but not sure about these new sport
ones. apparently it uses their accelerometers and such to pinpoint
things, which sounds super cool. I was thinking of picking up a pair.
thanks in advance for any help!



On 5/3/2021 3:35 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There 
are other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours 
whereas the others have 6.






Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Casey Wollner

Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com

Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap 
around style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some 
of the others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I 
wear them every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books 
and they also work great for making and answering phone calls. They are 
expensive but work the best for me.


My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way 
that AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" 
when issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
unnecessary with other brands.




Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe

Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not 
block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset 
by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great 
so I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing 
now is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, 
I would like to have a bit more privacy but at the same time have total 
ability of hearing traffic and other sounds around me.  Although I 
mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just want a quality piece of 
equipment that will be comfortable and sounds great and looks good. 
Thanks so much for your time and any suggestions.  Andy and Leroy


Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook 
Talking Information Center



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Re: Bose frames

[Robert Doc Wright]

We must make a distinction. When you ask if anyone can hear this is not the 
same as asking if anyone can understand what the caller is saying.
- Original Message - 
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:23 PM
Subject: RE: Bose frames


As stated here,

If the volume is up to it's maximum then yes others can hear the person on 
the phone with you.


If you have them low that is still comfortable for you then no they shouldn’t 
be able to hear the caller,


I use mine all the time and only music loud is what people have heard and 
then only when they sit close to me.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2021 10:18 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I would imagine that if you have to volume all the way up it would be 
possible for others to hear your conversation. Kept at a reasonable volume, 
there could be some chance of others hearing but not much. They are open 
speakers so I think it's to be expected.






Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner

Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi about these frames.
What I would like to know is if you are on A call and using them.
Can others hear your conversation as well or just you?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There 
are other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours 
whereas the others have 6.






Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner

Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com

Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around 
style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the 
others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them 
every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they 
also work great for making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but 
work the best for me.


My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when 
issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
unnecessary with other brands.




Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe

Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not 
block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset 
by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so 
I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now 
is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I 
would like to have a bit more privacy but at the same time have total 
ability of hearing traffic and other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned 
Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just want a quality piece of equipment that 
will be comfortable and sounds great and looks good.  Thanks so much for 
your time and any suggestions.  Andy and Leroy


Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook 
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Re: Bose frames

[Robert Doc Wright]

they may hear but I truly don't believe that they can understand what the 
caller is saying.
- Original Message - 
From: "Casey Wollner" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: Bose frames


Hi about these frames.
What I would like to know is if you are on A call and using them.
Can others hear your conversation as well or just you?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There 
are other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours 
whereas the others have 6.






Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey 
Wollner

Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
And about how much do they cost?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com

Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bose frames

Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around 
style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the 
others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them 
every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they 
also work great for making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but 
work the best for me.


My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when 
issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
unnecessary with other brands.




Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe

Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bose frames

Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will not 
block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another headset 
by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that sounds great so 
I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  What I am doing now 
is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  It works well but, I 
would like to have a bit more privacy but at the same time have total 
ability of hearing traffic and other sounds around me.  Although I mentioned 
Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just want a quality piece of equipment that 
will be comfortable and sounds great and looks good.  Thanks so much for 
your time and any suggestions.  Andy and Leroy


Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook 
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RE: Bose frames

[Simon A Fogarty]

I can't see why they wouldn't.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yohandy
Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2021 4:03 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

Hey there all,

Any idea if these glasses support Microsoft Soundscape? I think the old model 
did, that's what I read anyway, but not sure about these new sport ones. 
apparently it uses their accelerometers and such to pinpoint things, which 
sounds super cool. I was thinking of picking up a pair. 
thanks in advance for any help!



On 5/3/2021 3:35 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have to Bose Frames Tempo and I purchased them on Amazon for $249. There 
> are other models but the Tempo has the longest battery life at 8 hours 
> whereas the others have 6.
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Casey Wollner
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>
> Hi witch Bose frames do you have and where can you purchase them?
> And about how much do they cost?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> rick.alf...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>
> Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
> headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around 
> style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the 
> others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them 
> every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also 
> work great for making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work 
> the best for me.
>
> My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way that 
> AfterShokz headphones  work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" when 
> issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
> unnecessary with other brands.
>
>
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Rick Alfaro
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 5:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Bose frames
>
> Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will 
> not block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another 
> headset by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that 
> sounds great so I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  
> What I am doing now is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  
> It works well but, I would like to have a bit more privacy but at the 
> same time have total ability of hearing traffic and other sounds 
> around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just 
> want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
> great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any 
> suggestions.  Andy and Leroy
>
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
>
> Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler 
> Notebook Talking Information Center
>
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