Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

[Robert Doc Wright]

I see we are discovering that this varies based on who designs the keyboard we 
use. I have a keyboard that pairs with iOS, android and windows. My bottom left 
keys are:
ctrl, fn command option 
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  I’ve always known that Alt=Command, and Option?where the Windows key would be 
between Command and Control, or in some keyboards like on my Elle-Gate, you’ve 
the Command or Alt, going left Option or Windows, another left Function, and 
the most-left one, is the Control key. Good luck! 

   

  Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

   

  De: Simon A Fogarty
  Enviado: jueves, 13 de mayo de 2021 06:32 p. m.
  Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
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  Sorry no,

  Option key is the alt key on a windows keyboard,

   

  Windows key and command key are the same ones.

   

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  The Control+Omtion combo is the VO one: Option is the same as the Windows key 
on the Pc keyboard; whereas the ALT is the Command key. Hope this helps!

   

  Gera

  Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

   

  > El 13 may 2021, a la(s) 2:39 p.m., Joe Orozco  escribió:

  > 

  > Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me 

  > understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently 

  > tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, 

  > Function, Windows, and Left Alt.

  > 

  > Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command 

  > key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using 

  > Command plus Option made up the VO key.

  > 

  > Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should 

  > use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am 

  > completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult 

  > than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in 

  > iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone 

  > using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would 

  > be very appreciative.

  > 

  > Thanks,

  > 

  > Joe

  > 

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Re: Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

[Richard Turner]

It sounds like you could have turned on the new, useless, screen recongnition 
and/or describe images.
Or, you got braille screen input on.
I doubt it has to do with Voice Control; but who knows.
I'm not sure what the chirping sound is but it sounds like something being 
eneabled or disabled.
Best of luck.



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On May 13, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

Good day all:
As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, running the 
latest software, that up until several hours ago, was absolutely fine.
Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a bizarre chirping 
noise sounded, followed several seconds later by the same sound.  Seemingly 
simultaneously, I became unable to use dictation or the text field to change my 
name, even though it said “editing”.
I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore settings. When it 
came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it . . . the same thing 
happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I restored 
settings. Input all the needed information to get to the restore from backup 
process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. Tried using an edit field in 
messages and other places. Same weird sound, same inability to type, though at 
the moment dictation is working.
However, this is obviously not sustainable.
Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I don’t even 
know if Apple is having people come to physical stores yet. Has anyone heard of 
this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.
Christine

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Absolutely horrendous iPhone SE Second Generation Problem

[Christine Grassman]

Good day all:
As the subject indicates, I have an iPHone SE Second Generation, running the 
latest software, that up until several hours ago, was absolutely fine.
Suddenly, as I was changing my display name in my Zoom app, a bizarre chirping 
noise sounded, followed several seconds later by the same sound.  Seemingly 
simultaneously, I became unable to use dictation or the text field to change my 
name, even though it said “editing”.
I tried in the Safari address bar. Same result.
I rebooted the phone. Same thing.
I called Apple. I was told to go to my Settings and restore settings. When it 
came time to put in my passcode . . . you guess it . . . the same thing 
happened, and I was unable to complete the restore.
So off to my MacBook. (I luckily had a recent iCloud backup. I restored 
settings. Input all the needed information to get to the restore from backup 
process. All went smoothly. I put in a passcode. Tried using an edit field in 
messages and other places. Same weird sound, same inability to type, though at 
the moment dictation is working.
However, this is obviously not sustainable.
Please advise. I suspect this is a Genius Bar appointment, but I don’t even 
know if Apple is having people come to physical stores yet. Has anyone heard of 
this? Is there a fix? A workaround? Thanks.
Christine

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Re: Printing messages

[Richard Turner]

I know nothing about printing text messages, but emails are pretty straight 
forward once you have a printer your phone can see.
Open the email.
Double tap on More Actions.
Flick through about all of the options until you get to print.
Then it depends on your printer what you do next.
HTH,



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On May 13, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Donald L. Roberts  
wrote:



I sometimes wish to print incoming text messages or email messages on my HP 
wireless printer.  Please tell me step by step how to do this. I understand how 
to forward messages but just cannot get the hang of printing them.

My iPhone S E 20 is running IOS 14.5.

Thanks.


Don Roberts


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RE: configuring an iphone for a new user

[Christopher Chaltain]

This is definitely true for the iPhones with the LCD displays where the screens 
are backlit. Theoretically, this may help battery consumption on iPhones with 
the LED displays, where diodes are turned off when dark. I’m not aware of any 
benchmarks that demonstrate this though.

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These are all good suggestions. However, screen curtain does not actually help 
conserve battery life; all it does is blacken the screen by coloring it 
black--not actually turn off the display. To conserve battery by turning off 
the screen, you'd need to turn down the brightness. I have turned off 
auto-brightness and set brightness to 0 in settings. If I need someone sighted 
to look at my phone, I use the brightness slider in control panel to turn up 
the brightness to 20-30%. This brightness level is usually sufficient for most 
sighted individuals.


Thanks,
Ari


On May 7, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Dave Clement 
mailto:dclem...@mymts.net>> wrote:

Hi,

Here are a few settings I adjust when doing initial IOS training. Once the 
student has an initial knowledge, I alter some of these. I am referring to IOS 
14.x here.

1. Turn on "Do Not DisturB".  This will prevent notifications from disturbing 
the class. If your phone also had cell service, it would prevent phone calls 
from disturbing you as well.

Settings / Do Not Disturb

2. Turn off "Autolock" by setting it to "never". This prevents the student's 
phone from locking every few minutes while in the class.

Settings / Display & Brightness / Autolock

Note - you may want to reset these two items after the class if the student 
will be taking the phone away with them.

3. If the student is a Voiceover-only user, turn on the "screen curtain" to 
save some battery usage.

3-finger tripple tap

4. If Voiceover is being used, make sure "hints" are turned on.

Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Verbosity / Speak hints

5. If Voiceover is being used, set the Voiceover volume so both the instructor 
and the student can hear it. If in an area where you need to be quiet, consider 
using a splitter so two sets of earpods or headphones can be used at the same 
time.

Volume buttons or add "volume" to the rotor

6. Set SIRI options to display its responses and your spoken inputs. This will 
help the student while learning to use SIRI.

Settings / SIRI & Search / SIRI Responses

7. If cell service is available, set the phone option to use "full screen" for 
calls. This avoids the difficulties for beginners in dealing with the one-line 
display mode on calls.

Settings / Phone / Incoming calls

8. Initially, set typing style to "standard" when working with the on-screen 
keyboard. Once the student is comfortable with the on-screen keyboard you can 
introduce the other typing styles.

Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / typing / typing style

There are likely other settings one could adjust. Much depends on the model of 
phone, the IOS version, the usage the student will make of the phone, and their 
current level of knowledge / skill with it.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On May 6, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

I am configuring an iphone with no cell service to help a new user learn it. 
I’d like to alter settings that would make the learning experience as 
stress-free as possible. I have already turned off pass code. I have also 
turned off raise to wake. I was going to lock orientation but can’t find the 
setting in IOS 14. Can anyone suggest further steps I could take to accomplish 
my goal? Thanks.

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Printing messages

[Donald L. Roberts]

I sometimes wish to print incoming text messages or email messages on my 
HP wireless printer.  Please tell me step by step how to do this. I 
understand how to forward messages but just cannot get the hang of 
printing them.


My iPhone S E 20 is running IOS 14.5.

Thanks.


Don Roberts


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Apple Podcasts less accessible since major update

[Marcia Yale]

Hello, everyone. If you use the above app and have noticed that flicking
through episodes is much less stable lately, please let Apple Accessibility
know. The more of us who show them the fact that VoiceOver jumps all over
the place when you flick through a list of episodes, the sooner they might
consider fixing it! Thanks in advance!

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RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard,

I’m sitting here writing on a mac book air running windows 10

Remember that on the mac keyboard
The layout from left to right on the bottom row,

Fn, ctrl,alt (option), command (windows),

If this was a windows keyboard then you could have only 3 keys on the bottom 
row,
That would be CTRL, widnows key, alt,
Some windows machines have 4 keys and can be either,

Ctrl, fn, windows, alt,

Or fn, ctrl windows, alt.

What I’d suggest you do on your Logitech keyboard is to put it / the device in 
to keyboard help mode and then press the keys to know which one is which,


hth

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Well, this is me writing on the Logitech K860 Ergonomic keyboard which is 
designed first for Windows I believe.
So, for me, using this on my iPhone, Windows key equals options.  Alt key 
equals command.
I demonstrated that to myself by using the next or prior word command which is 
options plus left or right arrow when quickNav is off.
Writing this email, If I press Windows Key plus left or right arrow I move by 
word.
If I press alt plus left or right arrow, nothing happens.

So I guess it is really important to know if they are using a Apple keyboard 
with Windows, or a Windows keyboard with an Apple device.
It is lovely how confusing this can be.



Richard
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On May 13, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Richard,

Not right sorry,

Ctrol as you say is ctrl,

Alt is option
Windows is command,

Function is function,

That's why when using a mac keyboard for windows you use command for windows
And option for alt,

Vise versa on a windows keyboard type.
You had it pretty right just inverted.



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Sure.
Control key is always Control whether on Windows, Mac, or iOS.
I always thought Alt was Options, but it is probably Command, and Windows 
equals Options.
So, windows+control+spacebar would be the VO command for double tap.



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Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me understand what 
makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently tested a Mantis Q40 
where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, Function, Windows, and Left Alt.

Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command key in 
Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using Command plus Option 
made up the VO key.

Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should use 
Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am completely off. I 
find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult than it needs to be. Now, 
I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb 
about how to manipulate my phone using the traditional VO keys. If someone 
could enlighten me, I would be very appreciative.

Thanks,

Joe


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RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

[Gerardo Corripio]

I’ve always known that Alt=Command, and Option?where the Windows key would be between Command and Control, or in some keyboards like on my Elle-Gate, you’ve the Command or Alt, going left Option or Windows, another left Function, and the most-left one, is the Control key. Good luck!  Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 De: Simon A FogartyEnviado: jueves, 13 de mayo de 2021 06:32 p. m.Para: viphone@googlegroups.comAsunto: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY Sorry no,Option key is the alt key on a windows keyboard, Windows key and command key are the same ones. -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Friday, 14 May 2021 7:45 amTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY The Control+Omtion combo is the VO one: Option is the same as the Windows key on the Pc keyboard; whereas the ALT is the Command key. Hope this helps! GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel > El 13 may 2021, a la(s) 2:39 p.m., Joe Orozco  escribió:> > Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me > understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently > tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, > Function, Windows, and Left Alt.> > Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command > key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using > Command plus Option made up the VO key.> > Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should > use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am > completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult > than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in > iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone > using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would > be very appreciative.> > Thanks,> > Joe> > > --> Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission> https://joeorozco.com/services/> > --> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  > mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > The archives for this list can be searched at:> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> ---> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJNA4bmW%3DeaJnhZ7sX88YbRoQRTVThX99LBBYJn00UVgR01xTQ%40mail.gmail.com. --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A49EFCEA-3A09-4559-94ED-79B4991DD139%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SY4PR01MB70262C822A9F15AEA054FA868A519%40SY4PR01MB7026.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com. 



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Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

[Richard Turner]

Well, this is me writing on the Logitech K860 Ergonomic keyboard which is 
designed first for Windows I believe.
So, for me, using this on my iPhone, Windows key equals options.  Alt key 
equals command.
I demonstrated that to myself by using the next or prior word command which is 
options plus left or right arrow when quickNav is off.
Writing this email, If I press Windows Key plus left or right arrow I move by 
word.
If I press alt plus left or right arrow, nothing happens.

So I guess it is really important to know if they are using a Apple keyboard 
with Windows, or a Windows keyboard with an Apple device.
It is lovely how confusing this can be.



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On May 13, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Richard,

Not right sorry,

Ctrol as you say is ctrl,

Alt is option
Windows is command,

Function is function,

That's why when using a mac keyboard for windows you use command for windows
And option for alt,

Vise versa on a windows keyboard type.
You had it pretty right just inverted.



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Sure.
Control key is always Control whether on Windows, Mac, or iOS.
I always thought Alt was Options, but it is probably Command, and Windows 
equals Options.
So, windows+control+spacebar would be the VO command for double tap.



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Subject: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me understand what 
makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently tested a Mantis Q40 
where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, Function, Windows, and Left Alt.

Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command key in 
Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using Command plus Option 
made up the VO key.

Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should use 
Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am completely off. I 
find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult than it needs to be. Now, 
I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb 
about how to manipulate my phone using the traditional VO keys. If someone 
could enlighten me, I would be very appreciative.

Thanks,

Joe


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RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sorry no,
Option key is the alt key on a windows keyboard,

Windows key and command key are the same ones.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 7:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

The Control+Omtion combo is the VO one: Option is the same as the Windows key 
on the Pc keyboard; whereas the ALT is the Command key. Hope this helps!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 13 may 2021, a la(s) 2:39 p.m., Joe Orozco  escribió:
> 
> Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me 
> understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently 
> tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, 
> Function, Windows, and Left Alt.
> 
> Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command 
> key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using 
> Command plus Option made up the VO key.
> 
> Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should 
> use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am 
> completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult 
> than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in 
> iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone 
> using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would 
> be very appreciative.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
> 
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RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard,

Not right sorry,

Ctrol as you say is ctrl,

Alt is option 
Windows is command,

Function is function,

That's why when using a mac keyboard for windows you use command for windows 
And option for alt,

 Vise versa on a windows keyboard type.
You had it pretty right just inverted.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 8:52 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

Sure.
Control key is always Control whether on Windows, Mac, or iOS.
I always thought Alt was Options, but it is probably Command, and Windows 
equals Options.
So, windows+control+spacebar would be the VO command for double tap.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me understand what 
makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently tested a Mantis Q40 
where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, Function, Windows, and Left Alt.

Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command key in 
Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using Command plus Option 
made up the VO key.

Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should use 
Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am completely off. I 
find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult than it needs to be. Now, 
I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb 
about how to manipulate my phone using the traditional VO keys. If someone 
could enlighten me, I would be very appreciative.

Thanks,

Joe


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RE: Money apps

[Noe Villeda]

I deleted EyeNote, restarted my phone, reinstalled it, and it now works like it 
should.

Thanks for the advice.



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Actually, EyeNote will work.
It may take some extra trials and errors but I got it working on my SE 2020 
with iOS 14.5.1.
Try this.
Delete the ap.
Reboot your phone.
Download the app again.
Before opening the app, go to settings, eyenote, and give it permission to use 
the camera.
Then, run the app.
See if it works then.




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For some reason, Eye note will not read money using iOS 14.5.1.
I used to have seeing AI, but I could never get the currency app to read.


On May 13, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:

You could get either a EyeNote or if you have Seeing AI it has a part in it to 
read currency.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Can anyone recommend a good money reading app?
> The free version of cash reader, will not read  anything above a 10, and I 
> will not be using any other currency, so it doesn’t make sense to get a paid 
> subscription.
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RE: Magic keyboard.

[Simon A Fogarty]

I don’t believe you can disable the touch pad, but if you can it will be under 
settigns,

And as for top of the page,
Iit will depend on what your doing / in

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Viola 
Bentson
Sent: Friday, 14 May 2021 9:11 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Magic keyboard.

Hi all. I just got the new magic keyboard for the iPad that I haven’t gotten 
yet. But I have a question. I know how to get to the top and bottom of the 
screen with a braille display l chord and dots 4 5 6 respectively, but how do I 
do the same with the keyboard? I haven’t been able to figure that out. Thanks. 
There are no function keys on this keyboard, the other question is how to I 
disable the trackpad?

Viola

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RE: configuring an iphone for a new user

[Alan Lemly]

And if you want to save yourself some time, you can ask Siri to set the screen 
brightness at the desired level. It’s a bit faster than messing with that 
slider in the control center.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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These are all good suggestions. However, screen curtain does not actually help 
conserve battery life; all it does is blacken the screen by coloring it 
black--not actually turn off the display. To conserve battery by turning off 
the screen, you'd need to turn down the brightness. I have turned off 
auto-brightness and set brightness to 0 in settings. If I need someone sighted 
to look at my phone, I use the brightness slider in control panel to turn up 
the brightness to 20-30%. This brightness level is usually sufficient for most 
sighted individuals.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari





On May 7, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Dave Clement mailto:dclem...@mymts.net> > wrote:



Hi, 

 

Here are a few settings I adjust when doing initial IOS training. Once the 
student has an initial knowledge, I alter some of these. I am referring to IOS 
14.x here. 

 

1. Turn on "Do Not DisturB".  This will prevent notifications from disturbing 
the class. If your phone also had cell service, it would prevent phone calls 
from disturbing you as well. 

 

Settings / Do Not Disturb

 

2. Turn off "Autolock" by setting it to "never". This prevents the student's 
phone from locking every few minutes while in the class.

 

Settings / Display & Brightness / Autolock

 

Note - you may want to reset these two items after the class if the student 
will be taking the phone away with them. 

 

3. If the student is a Voiceover-only user, turn on the "screen curtain" to 
save some battery usage. 

 

3-finger tripple tap

 

4. If Voiceover is being used, make sure "hints" are turned on. 

 

Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Verbosity / Speak hints

 

5. If Voiceover is being used, set the Voiceover volume so both the instructor 
and the student can hear it. If in an area where you need to be quiet, consider 
using a splitter so two sets of earpods or headphones can be used at the same 
time. 

 

Volume buttons or add "volume" to the rotor

 

6. Set SIRI options to display its responses and your spoken inputs. This will 
help the student while learning to use SIRI. 

 

Settings / SIRI & Search / SIRI Responses 

 

7. If cell service is available, set the phone option to use "full screen" for 
calls. This avoids the difficulties for beginners in dealing with the one-line 
display mode on calls. 

 

Settings / Phone / Incoming calls

 

8. Initially, set typing style to "standard" when working with the on-screen 
keyboard. Once the student is comfortable with the on-screen keyboard you can 
introduce the other typing styles. 

 

Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / typing / typing style

 

There are likely other settings one could adjust. Much depends on the model of 
phone, the IOS version, the usage the student will make of the phone, and their 
current level of knowledge / skill with it. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On May 6, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:



I am configuring an iphone with no cell service to help a new user learn it. 
I’d like to alter settings that would make the learning experience as 
stress-free as possible. I have already turned off pass code. I have also 
turned off raise to wake. I was going to lock orientation but can’t find the 
setting in IOS 14. Can anyone suggest further steps I could take to accomplish 
my goal? Thanks.

 

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RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

[Fazil]

Yes, you are perfectly all right! *smile).

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Sure.
Control key is always Control whether on Windows, Mac, or iOS.
I always thought Alt was Options, but it is probably Command, and Windows 
equals Options.
So, windows+control+spacebar would be the VO command for double tap.



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Subject: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me understand what 
makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently tested a Mantis Q40 
where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, Function, Windows, and Left Alt.

Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command key in 
Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using Command plus Option 
made up the VO key.

Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should use 
Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am completely off. I 
find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult than it needs to be. Now, 
I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb 
about how to manipulate my phone using the traditional VO keys. If someone 
could enlighten me, I would be very appreciative.

Thanks,

Joe


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Magic keyboard.

[Viola Bentson]

Hi all. I just got the new magic keyboard for the iPad that I haven't gotten
yet. But I have a question. I know how to get to the top and bottom of the
screen with a braille display l chord and dots 4 5 6 respectively, but how
do I do the same with the keyboard? I haven't been able to figure that out.
Thanks. There are no function keys on this keyboard, the other question is
how to I disable the trackpad?

 

Viola

 

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RE: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

[Richard Turner]

Sure.
Control key is always Control whether on Windows, Mac, or iOS.
I always thought Alt was Options, but it is probably Command, and Windows 
equals Options.
So, windows+control+spacebar would be the VO command for double tap.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me understand what 
makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently tested a Mantis Q40 
where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL, Function, Windows, and Left Alt.

Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command key in 
Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using Command plus Option 
made up the VO key.

Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should use 
Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am completely off. I 
find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult than it needs to be. Now, 
I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb 
about how to manipulate my phone using the traditional VO keys. If someone 
could enlighten me, I would be very appreciative.

Thanks,

Joe


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Re: Cash App

[Jenifer Barr]

What is the difference between cash reader and Seeing AI's currency reader? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> I looked up cash reader in the App Store. It is free for a period of time 
> and, then, they want you to buy it. It is probably worth mine if you need to 
> deal with a lot of different currencies.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, it is cash reader.
>> Sorry about that, I thought it was called cash app.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 13, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> They may be talking about cash reader?
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
 On May 12, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>>  
>>> I just upgraded cell phones, and I can’t figure out how to reinstate my 
>>> cash app subscription.  I bought the lifetime version, but when I go to 
>>> settings, and try to restore the subscription, nothing happens.
>>>  
>>> I’d appreciate any suggestions, as I found out that eye note does not read 
>>> with I O S 14.5.1.
>>>  
>>> Noe
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Re: Money apps

[Jenifer Barr]

Actually Seeing AI is the only thing I use. It's pretty good! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, EyeNote will work.
> It may take some extra trials and errors but I got it working on my SE 2020 
> with iOS 14.5.1.
> Try this.
> Delete the ap.
> Reboot your phone.
> Download the app again.
> Before opening the app, go to settings, eyenote, and give it permission to 
> use the camera.
> Then, run the app.
> See if it works then.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> Villeda
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> Subject: Re: Money apps
> 
> For some reason, Eye note will not read money using iOS 14.5.1.
> I used to have seeing AI, but I could never get the currency app to read.
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> You could get either a EyeNote or if you have Seeing AI it has a part in it 
> to read currency.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 13, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
>> 
>> Can anyone recommend a good money reading app?
>> The free version of cash reader, will not read  anything above a 10, and I 
>> will not be using any other currency, so it doesn’t make sense to get a paid 
>> subscription.
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Re: Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

[Gerardo Corripio]

The Control+Omtion combo is the VO one: Option is the same as the Windows key 
on the Pc keyboard; whereas the ALT is the Command key. Hope this helps!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 13 may 2021, a la(s) 2:39 p.m., Joe Orozco  escribió:
> 
> Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me
> understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently
> tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL,
> Function, Windows, and Left Alt.
> 
> Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command
> key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using
> Command plus Option made up the VO key.
> 
> Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should
> use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am
> completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult
> than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in
> iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone
> using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would
> be very appreciative.
> 
> Thanks,
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Understanding VO Commands on a QWERTY

[Joe Orozco]

Hi, can someone please take me back to fundamentals and help me
understand what makes up a VO command on a QWERTY keyboard? I recently
tested a Mantis Q40 where the bottom row of keys was: Left CTRL,
Function, Windows, and Left Alt.

Now, if I'm understanding correctly, the CTRL is called the Command
key in Apple world. The Alt key is called Option. I thought using
Command plus Option made up the VO key.

Yet, earlier today I was reading an article where it said you should
use Command with VO to perform certain functions. So, maybe I am
completely off. I find navigating with VO on a keyboard more difficult
than it needs to be. Now, I did switch the VO key to my Caps key in
iOS, but I don't like feeling dumb about how to manipulate my phone
using the traditional VO keys. If someone could enlighten me, I would
be very appreciative.

Thanks,

Joe


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RE: configuring an iphone for a new user

[Richard Turner]

Yes, I forgot, set brightness to auto.
Life is easier that way.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: configuring an iphone for a new user

OK, Set your brightness to anything you want, even 100%.
Turn on the Screen curtain.
Wait about 10 minutes or so.
Without turning off screen brightness, go into the settings and see what it is 
showing.

It will be 0%.

So, if turning the brightness down manually saves battery, letting screen 
curtain do that for you will save battery.  Plus, as soon as you turn off 
screen curtain, a sighted person can see the screen without you having to 
fiddle with anything.

I’ve done this on at least 10 phones with various people.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: configuring an iphone for a new user

These are all good suggestions. However, screen curtain does not actually help 
conserve battery life; all it does is blacken the screen by coloring it 
black--not actually turn off the display. To conserve battery by turning off 
the screen, you'd need to turn down the brightness. I have turned off 
auto-brightness and set brightness to 0 in settings. If I need someone sighted 
to look at my phone, I use the brightness slider in control panel to turn up 
the brightness to 20-30%. This brightness level is usually sufficient for most 
sighted individuals.


Thanks,
Ari

On May 7, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Dave Clement 
mailto:dclem...@mymts.net>> wrote:

Hi,

Here are a few settings I adjust when doing initial IOS training. Once the 
student has an initial knowledge, I alter some of these. I am referring to IOS 
14.x here.

1. Turn on "Do Not DisturB".  This will prevent notifications from disturbing 
the class. If your phone also had cell service, it would prevent phone calls 
from disturbing you as well.

Settings / Do Not Disturb

2. Turn off "Autolock" by setting it to "never". This prevents the student's 
phone from locking every few minutes while in the class.

Settings / Display & Brightness / Autolock

Note - you may want to reset these two items after the class if the student 
will be taking the phone away with them.

3. If the student is a Voiceover-only user, turn on the "screen curtain" to 
save some battery usage.

3-finger tripple tap

4. If Voiceover is being used, make sure "hints" are turned on.

Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Verbosity / Speak hints

5. If Voiceover is being used, set the Voiceover volume so both the instructor 
and the student can hear it. If in an area where you need to be quiet, consider 
using a splitter so two sets of earpods or headphones can be used at the same 
time.

Volume buttons or add "volume" to the rotor

6. Set SIRI options to display its responses and your spoken inputs. This will 
help the student while learning to use SIRI.

Settings / SIRI & Search / SIRI Responses

7. If cell service is available, set the phone option to use "full screen" for 
calls. This avoids the difficulties for beginners in dealing with the one-line 
display mode on calls.

Settings / Phone / Incoming calls

8. Initially, set typing style to "standard" when working with the on-screen 
keyboard. Once the student is comfortable with the on-screen keyboard you can 
introduce the other typing styles.

Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / typing / typing style

There are likely other settings one could adjust. Much depends on the model of 
phone, the IOS version, the usage the student will make of the phone, and their 
current level of knowledge / skill with it.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On May 6, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

I am configuring an iphone with no cell service to help a new user learn it. 
I’d like to alter settings that would make the learning experience as 
stress-free as possible. I have already turned off pass code. I have also 
turned off raise to wake. I was going to lock orientation but can’t find the 
setting in IOS 14. Can anyone suggest further 

RE: configuring an iphone for a new user

[Richard Turner]

OK, Set your brightness to anything you want, even 100%.
Turn on the Screen curtain.
Wait about 10 minutes or so.
Without turning off screen brightness, go into the settings and see what it is 
showing.

It will be 0%.

So, if turning the brightness down manually saves battery, letting screen 
curtain do that for you will save battery.  Plus, as soon as you turn off 
screen curtain, a sighted person can see the screen without you having to 
fiddle with anything.

I’ve done this on at least 10 phones with various people.




Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
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Web site: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: configuring an iphone for a new user

These are all good suggestions. However, screen curtain does not actually help 
conserve battery life; all it does is blacken the screen by coloring it 
black--not actually turn off the display. To conserve battery by turning off 
the screen, you'd need to turn down the brightness. I have turned off 
auto-brightness and set brightness to 0 in settings. If I need someone sighted 
to look at my phone, I use the brightness slider in control panel to turn up 
the brightness to 20-30%. This brightness level is usually sufficient for most 
sighted individuals.


Thanks,
Ari


On May 7, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Dave Clement 
mailto:dclem...@mymts.net>> wrote:

Hi,

Here are a few settings I adjust when doing initial IOS training. Once the 
student has an initial knowledge, I alter some of these. I am referring to IOS 
14.x here.

1. Turn on "Do Not DisturB".  This will prevent notifications from disturbing 
the class. If your phone also had cell service, it would prevent phone calls 
from disturbing you as well.

Settings / Do Not Disturb

2. Turn off "Autolock" by setting it to "never". This prevents the student's 
phone from locking every few minutes while in the class.

Settings / Display & Brightness / Autolock

Note - you may want to reset these two items after the class if the student 
will be taking the phone away with them.

3. If the student is a Voiceover-only user, turn on the "screen curtain" to 
save some battery usage.

3-finger tripple tap

4. If Voiceover is being used, make sure "hints" are turned on.

Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Verbosity / Speak hints

5. If Voiceover is being used, set the Voiceover volume so both the instructor 
and the student can hear it. If in an area where you need to be quiet, consider 
using a splitter so two sets of earpods or headphones can be used at the same 
time.

Volume buttons or add "volume" to the rotor

6. Set SIRI options to display its responses and your spoken inputs. This will 
help the student while learning to use SIRI.

Settings / SIRI & Search / SIRI Responses

7. If cell service is available, set the phone option to use "full screen" for 
calls. This avoids the difficulties for beginners in dealing with the one-line 
display mode on calls.

Settings / Phone / Incoming calls

8. Initially, set typing style to "standard" when working with the on-screen 
keyboard. Once the student is comfortable with the on-screen keyboard you can 
introduce the other typing styles.

Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / typing / typing style

There are likely other settings one could adjust. Much depends on the model of 
phone, the IOS version, the usage the student will make of the phone, and their 
current level of knowledge / skill with it.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On May 6, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

I am configuring an iphone with no cell service to help a new user learn it. 
I’d like to alter settings that would make the learning experience as 
stress-free as possible. I have already turned off pass code. I have also 
turned off raise to wake. I was going to lock orientation but can’t find the 
setting in IOS 14. Can anyone suggest further steps I could take to accomplish 
my goal? Thanks.

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Re: configuring an iphone for a new user

[Julian]

Actually, I believe as of either iOS 11 or 12, turning on the screen curtain 
will automatically dim your screen brightness down to zero as long as you have 
auto brightness enabled. So, it does help to save on battery life.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2021, at 12:09 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> These are all good suggestions. However, screen curtain does not actually 
> help conserve battery life; all it does is blacken the screen by coloring it 
> black--not actually turn off the display. To conserve battery by turning off 
> the screen, you'd need to turn down the brightness. I have turned off 
> auto-brightness and set brightness to 0 in settings. If I need someone 
> sighted to look at my phone, I use the brightness slider in control panel to 
> turn up the brightness to 20-30%. This brightness level is usually sufficient 
> for most sighted individuals.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>>> On May 7, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> Here are a few settings I adjust when doing initial IOS training. Once the 
>> student has an initial knowledge, I alter some of these. I am referring to 
>> IOS 14.x here. 
>> 
>> 1. Turn on "Do Not DisturB".  This will prevent notifications from 
>> disturbing the class. If your phone also had cell service, it would prevent 
>> phone calls from disturbing you as well. 
>> 
>> Settings / Do Not Disturb
>> 
>> 2. Turn off "Autolock" by setting it to "never". This prevents the student's 
>> phone from locking every few minutes while in the class.
>> 
>> Settings / Display & Brightness / Autolock
>> 
>> Note - you may want to reset these two items after the class if the student 
>> will be taking the phone away with them. 
>> 
>> 3. If the student is a Voiceover-only user, turn on the "screen curtain" to 
>> save some battery usage. 
>> 
>> 3-finger tripple tap
>> 
>> 4. If Voiceover is being used, make sure "hints" are turned on. 
>> 
>> Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Verbosity / Speak hints
>> 
>> 5. If Voiceover is being used, set the Voiceover volume so both the 
>> instructor and the student can hear it. If in an area where you need to be 
>> quiet, consider using a splitter so two sets of earpods or headphones can be 
>> used at the same time. 
>> 
>> Volume buttons or add "volume" to the rotor
>> 
>> 6. Set SIRI options to display its responses and your spoken inputs. This 
>> will help the student while learning to use SIRI. 
>> 
>> Settings / SIRI & Search / SIRI Responses 
>> 
>> 7. If cell service is available, set the phone option to use "full screen" 
>> for calls. This avoids the difficulties for beginners in dealing with the 
>> one-line display mode on calls. 
>> 
>> Settings / Phone / Incoming calls
>> 
>> 8. Initially, set typing style to "standard" when working with the on-screen 
>> keyboard. Once the student is comfortable with the on-screen keyboard you 
>> can introduce the other typing styles. 
>> 
>> Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / typing / typing style
>> 
>> There are likely other settings one could adjust. Much depends on the model 
>> of phone, the IOS version, the usage the student will make of the phone, and 
>> their current level of knowledge / skill with it. 
>> 
>> Dave Clement
>> Winnipeg MB
>> 
>> 
>> On May 6, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I am configuring an iphone with no cell service to help a new user learn it. 
>> I’d like to alter settings that would make the learning experience as 
>> stress-free as possible. I have already turned off pass code. I have also 
>> turned off raise to wake. I was going to lock orientation but can’t find the 
>> setting in IOS 14. Can anyone suggest further steps I could take to 
>> accomplish my goal? Thanks.
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Re: configuring an iphone for a new user

[englishrider91]

These are all good suggestions. However, screen curtain does not actually help 
conserve battery life; all it does is blacken the screen by coloring it 
black--not actually turn off the display. To conserve battery by turning off 
the screen, you'd need to turn down the brightness. I have turned off 
auto-brightness and set brightness to 0 in settings. If I need someone sighted 
to look at my phone, I use the brightness slider in control panel to turn up 
the brightness to 20-30%. This brightness level is usually sufficient for most 
sighted individuals.


Thanks,
Ari

> On May 7, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Here are a few settings I adjust when doing initial IOS training. Once the 
> student has an initial knowledge, I alter some of these. I am referring to 
> IOS 14.x here. 
> 
> 1. Turn on "Do Not DisturB".  This will prevent notifications from disturbing 
> the class. If your phone also had cell service, it would prevent phone calls 
> from disturbing you as well. 
> 
> Settings / Do Not Disturb
> 
> 2. Turn off "Autolock" by setting it to "never". This prevents the student's 
> phone from locking every few minutes while in the class.
> 
> Settings / Display & Brightness / Autolock
> 
> Note - you may want to reset these two items after the class if the student 
> will be taking the phone away with them. 
> 
> 3. If the student is a Voiceover-only user, turn on the "screen curtain" to 
> save some battery usage. 
> 
> 3-finger tripple tap
> 
> 4. If Voiceover is being used, make sure "hints" are turned on. 
> 
> Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / Verbosity / Speak hints
> 
> 5. If Voiceover is being used, set the Voiceover volume so both the 
> instructor and the student can hear it. If in an area where you need to be 
> quiet, consider using a splitter so two sets of earpods or headphones can be 
> used at the same time. 
> 
> Volume buttons or add "volume" to the rotor
> 
> 6. Set SIRI options to display its responses and your spoken inputs. This 
> will help the student while learning to use SIRI. 
> 
> Settings / SIRI & Search / SIRI Responses 
> 
> 7. If cell service is available, set the phone option to use "full screen" 
> for calls. This avoids the difficulties for beginners in dealing with the 
> one-line display mode on calls. 
> 
> Settings / Phone / Incoming calls
> 
> 8. Initially, set typing style to "standard" when working with the on-screen 
> keyboard. Once the student is comfortable with the on-screen keyboard you can 
> introduce the other typing styles. 
> 
> Settings / Accessibility / Voiceover / typing / typing style
> 
> There are likely other settings one could adjust. Much depends on the model 
> of phone, the IOS version, the usage the student will make of the phone, and 
> their current level of knowledge / skill with it. 
> 
> Dave Clement
> Winnipeg MB
> 
> 
> On May 6, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
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> I’d like to alter settings that would make the learning experience as 
> stress-free as possible. I have already turned off pass code. I have also 
> turned off raise to wake. I was going to lock orientation but can’t find the 
> setting in IOS 14. Can anyone suggest further steps I could take to 
> accomplish my goal? Thanks.
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RE: Money apps

[Larry Lumpkin]

I use Eyenote on 14.5.1 and it has always worked beautifully.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Money apps

Actually, EyeNote will work.
It may take some extra trials and errors but I got it working on my SE 2020 
with iOS 14.5.1.
Try this.
Delete the ap.
Reboot your phone.
Download the app again.
Before opening the app, go to settings, eyenote, and give it permission to use 
the camera.
Then, run the app.
See if it works then.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
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Subject: Re: Money apps

For some reason, Eye note will not read money using iOS 14.5.1.
I used to have seeing AI, but I could never get the currency app to read.


On May 13, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:

You could get either a EyeNote or if you have Seeing AI it has a part in it to 
read currency.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
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> Can anyone recommend a good money reading app?
> The free version of cash reader, will not read  anything above a 10, and I 
> will not be using any other currency, so it doesn’t make sense to get a paid 
> subscription.
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RE: Money apps

[Richard Turner]

Actually, EyeNote will work.
It may take some extra trials and errors but I got it working on my SE 2020 
with iOS 14.5.1.
Try this.
Delete the ap.
Reboot your phone.
Download the app again.
Before opening the app, go to settings, eyenote, and give it permission to use 
the camera.
Then, run the app.
See if it works then.




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Money apps

For some reason, Eye note will not read money using iOS 14.5.1.
I used to have seeing AI, but I could never get the currency app to read.


On May 13, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:

You could get either a EyeNote or if you have Seeing AI it has a part in it to 
read currency.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good money reading app?
> The free version of cash reader, will not read  anything above a 10, and I 
> will not be using any other currency, so it doesn’t make sense to get a paid 
> subscription.
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Re: waltr2 pro

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Yes, firstly choose your device in your case the XR.

Then browse to the files you want to transfer select as required.  Select OK 
then you need to select the Convert and Transfer button for the files to be 
copied over.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 13 May 2021, at 18:11, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
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> I se a button for folder, itunes, iPhone 10r which is the one plugged in and 
> 6s+ which is not plugged in.
> do I choose my 10r then look for the file? 
> - Original Message -
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> Once you have chosen your media to transfer, make sure you hit the Convert 
> and Transfer button.
> 
> This is an extra step as you can transfer media to other apps.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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>> I am doing what I did when I used waltr2 but the tones or music is not 
>> showing on the phone.
>> *
>> family Times weekly Movie times
>>  
>> 
>> go to Doc's Stream
>> http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
>> Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
>> You can also find family times on OoTunes.
>>  
>> Get the stream guide:
>> http://www.wrighthere.net/FamilyTimes/playingnow.html
>> 
>>  
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>> Add the following information in your TeamTalk
>> host address: wiv.wrighthere.net
>> TCP/UDP ports: 10333
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Re: waltr2 pro

[Robert Doc Wright]

I se a button for folder, itunes, iPhone 10r which is the one plugged in and 
6s+ which is not plugged in.
do I choose my 10r then look for the file? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Malcolm Parfitt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 4:31 AM
  Subject: Re: waltr2 pro


  Once you have chosen your media to transfer, make sure you hit the Convert 
and Transfer button.


  This is an extra step as you can transfer media to other apps.


  Malcolm Parfitt


On 13 May 2021, at 11:26, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


 
I am doing what I did when I used waltr2 but the tones or music is not 
showing on the phone.
*
family Times weekly Movie times


go to Doc's Stream
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
You can also find family times on OoTunes.

Get the stream guide:
http://www.wrighthere.net/FamilyTimes/playingnow.html



walking in VictoryI welcome all that are interested in joining our 
devotionals on Monday thru saturdays at 8am EST. join the devotion channel.
Also, there is a weekly bible study at 8pm EST in the Walking with Jesus 
channel.


Add the following information in your TeamTalk
host address: wiv.wrighthere.net
TCP/UDP ports: 10333

entry name: walking in Victory
tab twice and press space on Add/update

or 
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Re: Money apps

[Noe Villeda]

For some reason, Eye note will not read money using iOS 14.5.1.
I used to have seeing AI, but I could never get the currency app to read.


On May 13, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:

You could get either a EyeNote or if you have Seeing AI it has a part in it to 
read currency.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Can anyone recommend a good money reading app?
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Re: Money apps

[Michael Irons]

You could get either a EyeNote or if you have Seeing AI it has a part in it to 
read currency.

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> Can anyone recommend a good money reading app?
> The free version of cash reader, will not read  anything above a 10, and I 
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Money apps

[Noe Villeda]

Can anyone recommend a good money reading app?
The free version of cash reader, will not read  anything above a 10, and I will 
not be using any other currency, so it doesn’t make sense to get a paid 
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Re: Cash App

[Michael Irons]

I looked up cash reader in the App Store. It is free for a period of time and, 
then, they want you to buy it. It is probably worth mine if you need to deal 
with a lot of different currencies.

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> On May 13, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
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> Yes, it is cash reader.
> Sorry about that, I thought it was called cash app.
> 
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
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> They may be talking about cash reader?
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
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>> Hello all,
>>  
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>> app subscription.  I bought the lifetime version, but when I go to settings, 
>> and try to restore the subscription, nothing happens.
>>  
>> I’d appreciate any suggestions, as I found out that eye note does not read 
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Re: iPhone 12 pro an hotspot

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Hello everyone, are used my phone as a hotspot a couple of times to get my 
MacBook Air on the Internet. I made sure that Bluetooth is turned on on both my 
iPhone and a Mac. That’s how it seemed to work out the best.

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RE: iPhone 12 pro an hotspot

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When I use my phone as a hotspot for my laptop, I have to be sure that 
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Re: iPhone 12 pro an hotspot

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Hello,
When you are trying to broadcast to other devices, are you trying to
do this over wifi? If so, wifi needs to still be enabled in settings
in order to broadcast to the device.
Also, I would confirm that Hotspot is a feature that your carrier plan
supports.

On 5/13/21, Robbie Miller  wrote:
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>
> I have an iPhone 12 Pro, and after turning on my hotspot, I can't get my
> hotspot to broadcast to other devices.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Can anyone give me instructions on how to turn on my hotspot . I want to
> connect my laptop to my hotspot.
>
> Voiceover says its on, but my laptop does not see it.
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Re: Cash App

[Noe Villeda]

Yes, it is cash reader.
Sorry about that, I thought it was called cash app.



On May 13, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:

They may be talking about cash reader?

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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>  
> I’d appreciate any suggestions, as I found out that eye note does not read 
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>  
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Re: Cash App

[Jennie Facer]

They may be talking about cash reader?

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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> Hello all,
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> I just upgraded cell phones, and I can’t figure out how to reinstate my cash 
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Re: Cash App

[Jenifer Barr]

I also use cash app... I don't have a subscription either... was just looking 
at the app to see if I could tell what you were refering to and couldn't find 
anything? I'm sorry this isn't helpful. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> I have cash app, but I don't pay for a subscription. I didn't even know that 
> that was possible.
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>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I just upgraded cell phones, and I can’t figure out how to reinstate my cash 
>> app subscription.  I bought the lifetime version, but when I go to settings, 
>> and try to restore the subscription, nothing happens.
>> 
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>> with I O S 14.5.1.
>> 
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Re: waltr2 pro

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Once you have chosen your media to transfer, make sure you hit the Convert and 
Transfer button.

This is an extra step as you can transfer media to other apps.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 13 May 2021, at 11:26, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
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> I am doing what I did when I used waltr2 but the tones or music is not 
> showing on the phone.
> *
> family Times weekly Movie times
>  
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> go to Doc's Stream
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> Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
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waltr2 pro

[Robert Doc Wright]

I am doing what I did when I used waltr2 but the tones or music is not showing 
on the phone.
*
family Times weekly Movie times


go to Doc's Stream
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Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
You can also find family times on OoTunes.

Get the stream guide:
http://www.wrighthere.net/FamilyTimes/playingnow.html



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on Monday thru saturdays at 8am EST. join the devotion channel.
Also, there is a weekly bible study at 8pm EST in the Walking with Jesus 
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host address: wiv.wrighthere.net
TCP/UDP ports: 10333

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iPhone 12 pro an hotspot

[Robbie Miller]

Hello all, 

I have an iPhone 12 Pro, and after turning on my hotspot, I can't get my
hotspot to broadcast to other devices. 

What am I doing wrong?

Can anyone give me instructions on how to turn on my hotspot . I want to
connect my laptop to my hotspot.

Voiceover says its on, but my laptop does not see it.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Robbie

 

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