Re: NLS eReader by Humanware observations

[Devin Prater]

I mean, I’m not complaining, just find it interesting.
Devin Prater
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> On Aug 15, 2021, at 4:04 PM, Julia Kulak  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone. Richard, thank you very much for this description. Devon, I 
> don’t care if the voice over driver has more holes than a block of Swiss 
> cheese. I am just grateful to have a free braille display! Julia.
>> On Aug 15, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Try going into keyboard help mode on the iPhone with Space with K, and press 
>> the Up and Down keys. See the holes in VoiceOver's driver for the thing. :) 
>> NVDA has no such faults, go figure.
>> Devin Prater
>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com 
>> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 2:49 PM Richard Turner > > wrote:
>> I have had the eReader from NLS made by Humanware for about three days.
>> 
>> My impressions are below, in no particular order.
>> 
>> 1. The neck strap is cheap and not at all comfortable. It is too skinny, and 
>> made out of a very rough material.
>> 
>> 2. There are two space bars that for me, are not positioned well. I use my 
>> right thumb for pressing the space bar and I find its position slightly too 
>> far to the right.
>> 
>> 3. There are the 20 cursor routing buttons over each cell, but no markers 
>> every 5 like on most displays with routing buttons.
>> 
>> 4. The keyboard is ergonomically designed with the slight curve. The space 
>> bars are below the braille cells, which is fine for me but I know some 
>> people prefer the space bar closer to the keyboard.
>> 
>> The keys have more play in them than I expected. They feel a little spongy.
>> 
>> 5. The case makes it look like a hardback book. It opens just like a book 
>> cover, with the spine on the back of the unit leaving the front thumb keys 
>> exposed.  The best word I can think of is, "cute."
>> 
>> 6. The braille feels better to me than on the Humanware braille note touch 
>> plus, but not quite as good as on the Orbit Readers.
>> 
>> 7.  It does not have a note taker, but can be connected to a computer or a 
>> smart phone to be used as a braille keyboard.
>> 
>> 8.  The setup for Bluetooth devices is much like other Humanware displays.  
>> It follows Humanware's logic, which is not my logic, but following the 
>> instructions did work.
>> 
>> 9.  NLS BARD login and download is very straight forward.
>> 
>> 10.  Changing braille grades is slow.  Press Space+g and you have to wait 
>> about 6 or 7 seconds before the grade shows up, Then, once the one you want 
>> is on the display, wait another 6 or 7 seconds for the display to go back to 
>> what you were doing.
>> 
>> 11.  when used as a braille input device with an iPhone SE 2020, it works 
>> pretty much as well as all displays work, which is very good.
>> 
>> 12.  The battery life seems to be maybe 6 or 8 hours, hard to be sure yet.
>> 
>> 13.  There is no internet browser, Wi-Fi is used for downloading BARD books 
>> and updating the firmware.
>> 
>> 14.  The wi-Fi set up was pretty straight forward, as Humanware devices go.
>> 
>> 15.  I have not tried using it with the computer.
>> 
>> 16.  It takes approximately 20 seconds to start up and about 17 seconds to 
>> shut down.  Probably due to the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth functions, I am not sure.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> To get an eReader from NLS you have to contact your regional library for the 
>> blind and sign up for braille materials, and then request the eReader.  If 
>> you already receive braille materials, simply contact them and ask how to 
>> get sign up for an eReader if your library is participating in the program 
>> that is..
>> 
>> At this point, it is still considered a pilot program and you have to agree 
>> to participate in several surveys at 2, 4, and 6 months after receiving the 
>> device and of course, to return it if you are not going to use it.  If you 
>> want, you can keep it after the pilot project is finished.
>> 
>> Oregon seems to be getting the Humanware device; some states are getting the 
>> one from Zoomax.
>> 
>> There are YouTube videos walking through each device, settings, how to…, 
>> etc..
>> 
>> Here is the physical description link for the Humanware device: 
>> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9336/ 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Here is the physical description link for the Zoomax device: 
>> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9653/ 
>> 
>>  
>> 
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>> Richard
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RE: NLS eReader by Humanware observations

[William James]

I was looking at this thread last night and did a search for Zoomax’s braille 
display manual some time ago.  I could not get to it last night.  I did get it 
today and here is the manual for those of you who are curious about this device.
 
Zoomax NLS Braille eReader EMZ-20 Baille e-Reader User Manual Hangzhou Rejoin 
Tech (fccid.io)
 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows
 
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NLS eReader by Humanware observations
 
It is so easy, and I think better, to use its onboard feature to download books 
from NLS, rather than going through the extra steps of downloading it through 
Bard mobile then putting it on the card.
 

 
Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
 
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On Aug 15, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I still like humanware displays and I really hope that that is the one
I will be able to get when they become sent out officially.  I don't
know why they have 2 space bars though.  I can think this is something
I will use in church for reading the Bible.  There are also some books
from bard, that it would be great to have in braille loaded with bard
mobile.

On 8/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:

Updated version with the info about the cursor routing buttons made more
clear.
 
I have had the eReader from NLS made by Humanware for about three days.
My impressions are below, in no particular order.
1. The neck strap is cheap and not at all comfortable. It is too skinny, and
made out of a very rough material.
2. There are two space bars that for me, are not positioned well. I use my
right thumb for pressing the space bar and I find its position slightly too
far to the right.
3. There are cursor routing buttons over each of the 20 cells, but no
markers every 5 like on most displays with routing buttons.
4. The keyboard is ergonomically designed with the slight curve. The space
bars are below the braille cells, which is fine for me but I know some
people prefer the space bar closer to the keyboard.
The keys have more play in them than I expected. They feel a little spongy.
5. The case makes it look like a hardback book. It opens just like a book
cover, with the spine on the back of the unit leaving the front thumb keys
exposed.  The best word I can think of is, "cute."
6. The braille feels better to me than on the Humanware braille note touch
plus, but not quite as good as on the Orbit Readers.
7.  It does not have a note taker, but can be connected to a computer or a
smart phone to be used as a braille keyboard.
8.  The setup for Bluetooth devices is much like other Humanware displays.
It follows Humanware's logic, which is not my logic, but following the
instructions did work.
9.  NLS BARD login and download is very straight forward.
10.  Changing braille grades is slow.  Press Space+g and you have to wait
about 6 or 7 seconds before the grade shows up, Then, once the one you want
is on the display, wait another 6 or 7 seconds for the display to go back to
what you were doing.
11.  when used as a braille input device with an iPhone SE 2020, it works
pretty much as well as all displays work, which is very good.
12.  The battery life seems to be maybe 6 or 8 hours, hard to be sure yet.
13.  There is no internet browser, Wi-Fi is used for downloading BARD books
and updating the firmware.
14.  The wi-Fi set up was pretty straight forward, as Humanware devices go.
15.  I have not tried using it with the computer.
16.  It takes approximately 20 seconds to start up and about 17 seconds to
shut down.  Probably due to the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth functions, I am not
sure.
 
To get an eReader from NLS you have to contact your regional library for the
blind and sign up for braille materials, and then request the eReader.  If
you already receive braille materials, simply contact them and ask how to
get sign up for an eReader if your library is participating in the program
that is..
At this point, it is still considered a pilot program and you have to agree
to participate in several surveys at 2, 4, and 6 months after receiving the
device and of course, to return it if you are not going to use it.  If you
want, you can keep it after the pilot project is finished.
Oregon seems to be getting the Humanware device; some states are getting the
one from Zoomax.
There are YouTube videos walking through each device, settings, how to…,
etc..
Here is the physical description link for the Humanware device:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.loc.gov%2Fitem%2Fwebcast-9336%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C56f022c9fdaf40a0147508d96043648f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637646664845871243%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=iRepzE1hxYfn20QoK4lBesy5Hc02uMhi7Gmk4zX5%2FuQ%3Dreserved=0
 
Here is the physical description link for the Zoomax device:

Re: NLS eReader by Humanware observations

[Richard Turner]

It is so easy, and I think better, to use its onboard feature to download books 
from NLS, rather than going through the extra steps of downloading it through 
Bard mobile then putting it on the card.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Aug 15, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I still like humanware displays and I really hope that that is the one
I will be able to get when they become sent out officially.  I don't
know why they have 2 space bars though.  I can think this is something
I will use in church for reading the Bible.  There are also some books
from bard, that it would be great to have in braille loaded with bard
mobile.

On 8/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
Updated version with the info about the cursor routing buttons made more
clear.

I have had the eReader from NLS made by Humanware for about three days.
My impressions are below, in no particular order.
1. The neck strap is cheap and not at all comfortable. It is too skinny, and
made out of a very rough material.
2. There are two space bars that for me, are not positioned well. I use my
right thumb for pressing the space bar and I find its position slightly too
far to the right.
3. There are cursor routing buttons over each of the 20 cells, but no
markers every 5 like on most displays with routing buttons.
4. The keyboard is ergonomically designed with the slight curve. The space
bars are below the braille cells, which is fine for me but I know some
people prefer the space bar closer to the keyboard.
The keys have more play in them than I expected. They feel a little spongy.
5. The case makes it look like a hardback book. It opens just like a book
cover, with the spine on the back of the unit leaving the front thumb keys
exposed.  The best word I can think of is, "cute."
6. The braille feels better to me than on the Humanware braille note touch
plus, but not quite as good as on the Orbit Readers.
7.  It does not have a note taker, but can be connected to a computer or a
smart phone to be used as a braille keyboard.
8.  The setup for Bluetooth devices is much like other Humanware displays.
It follows Humanware's logic, which is not my logic, but following the
instructions did work.
9.  NLS BARD login and download is very straight forward.
10.  Changing braille grades is slow.  Press Space+g and you have to wait
about 6 or 7 seconds before the grade shows up, Then, once the one you want
is on the display, wait another 6 or 7 seconds for the display to go back to
what you were doing.
11.  when used as a braille input device with an iPhone SE 2020, it works
pretty much as well as all displays work, which is very good.
12.  The battery life seems to be maybe 6 or 8 hours, hard to be sure yet.
13.  There is no internet browser, Wi-Fi is used for downloading BARD books
and updating the firmware.
14.  The wi-Fi set up was pretty straight forward, as Humanware devices go.
15.  I have not tried using it with the computer.
16.  It takes approximately 20 seconds to start up and about 17 seconds to
shut down.  Probably due to the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth functions, I am not
sure.

To get an eReader from NLS you have to contact your regional library for the
blind and sign up for braille materials, and then request the eReader.  If
you already receive braille materials, simply contact them and ask how to
get sign up for an eReader if your library is participating in the program
that is..
At this point, it is still considered a pilot program and you have to agree
to participate in several surveys at 2, 4, and 6 months after receiving the
device and of course, to return it if you are not going to use it.  If you
want, you can keep it after the pilot project is finished.
Oregon seems to be getting the Humanware device; some states are getting the
one from Zoomax.
There are YouTube videos walking through each device, settings, how to…,
etc..
Here is the physical description link for the Humanware device:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.loc.gov%2Fitem%2Fwebcast-9336%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C56f022c9fdaf40a0147508d96043648f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637646664845871243%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=iRepzE1hxYfn20QoK4lBesy5Hc02uMhi7Gmk4zX5%2FuQ%3Dreserved=0

Here is the physical description link for the Zoomax device:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.loc.gov%2Fitem%2Fwebcast-9653%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C56f022c9fdaf40a0147508d96043648f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637646664845871243%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=DfyB5SOE5%2BX8Fuo%2FMEP3msj4romJqm%2FQt6H7ulzxMTw%3Dreserved=0





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Re: NLS eReader by Humanware observations

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I still like humanware displays and I really hope that that is the one
I will be able to get when they become sent out officially.  I don't
know why they have 2 space bars though.  I can think this is something
I will use in church for reading the Bible.  There are also some books
from bard, that it would be great to have in braille loaded with bard
mobile.

On 8/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Updated version with the info about the cursor routing buttons made more
> clear.
>
> I have had the eReader from NLS made by Humanware for about three days.
> My impressions are below, in no particular order.
> 1. The neck strap is cheap and not at all comfortable. It is too skinny, and
> made out of a very rough material.
> 2. There are two space bars that for me, are not positioned well. I use my
> right thumb for pressing the space bar and I find its position slightly too
> far to the right.
> 3. There are cursor routing buttons over each of the 20 cells, but no
> markers every 5 like on most displays with routing buttons.
> 4. The keyboard is ergonomically designed with the slight curve. The space
> bars are below the braille cells, which is fine for me but I know some
> people prefer the space bar closer to the keyboard.
> The keys have more play in them than I expected. They feel a little spongy.
> 5. The case makes it look like a hardback book. It opens just like a book
> cover, with the spine on the back of the unit leaving the front thumb keys
> exposed.  The best word I can think of is, "cute."
> 6. The braille feels better to me than on the Humanware braille note touch
> plus, but not quite as good as on the Orbit Readers.
> 7.  It does not have a note taker, but can be connected to a computer or a
> smart phone to be used as a braille keyboard.
> 8.  The setup for Bluetooth devices is much like other Humanware displays.
> It follows Humanware's logic, which is not my logic, but following the
> instructions did work.
> 9.  NLS BARD login and download is very straight forward.
> 10.  Changing braille grades is slow.  Press Space+g and you have to wait
> about 6 or 7 seconds before the grade shows up, Then, once the one you want
> is on the display, wait another 6 or 7 seconds for the display to go back to
> what you were doing.
> 11.  when used as a braille input device with an iPhone SE 2020, it works
> pretty much as well as all displays work, which is very good.
> 12.  The battery life seems to be maybe 6 or 8 hours, hard to be sure yet.
> 13.  There is no internet browser, Wi-Fi is used for downloading BARD books
> and updating the firmware.
> 14.  The wi-Fi set up was pretty straight forward, as Humanware devices go.
> 15.  I have not tried using it with the computer.
> 16.  It takes approximately 20 seconds to start up and about 17 seconds to
> shut down.  Probably due to the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth functions, I am not
> sure.
>
> To get an eReader from NLS you have to contact your regional library for the
> blind and sign up for braille materials, and then request the eReader.  If
> you already receive braille materials, simply contact them and ask how to
> get sign up for an eReader if your library is participating in the program
> that is..
> At this point, it is still considered a pilot program and you have to agree
> to participate in several surveys at 2, 4, and 6 months after receiving the
> device and of course, to return it if you are not going to use it.  If you
> want, you can keep it after the pilot project is finished.
> Oregon seems to be getting the Humanware device; some states are getting the
> one from Zoomax.
> There are YouTube videos walking through each device, settings, how to…,
> etc..
> Here is the physical description link for the Humanware device:
> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9336/
>
> Here is the physical description link for the Zoomax device:
> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9653/
>
>
>
>
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RE: a Zoom Question

[Simon A Fogarty]

Use the edit menu on the app by flicking down,
Tab on edit,
Then flick down to
 Drag or drag zoom,

Then go to where you wish to put the zoom app and then again flick down and 
find drop

HTH
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Sunday, 15 August 2021 4:18 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: a Zoom Question

Thanks for the tip.

I found Zoon in app library, how do I move it to either page 1 or page 2 of the 
apps on my phone.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a Zoom Question

I'll add to what Lyne has already posted. Go to your app library which resides 
on the last page of your home screen. When on one of the pages of your home 
screen, you can get to it by doing a three finger swipe left until you hear app 
library. When you've reached the app library page, touch in the middle of your 
screen and do a three finger swipe down. This will open an alphabetized list of 
all the apps in your library. You can single finger swipe right to review each 
of them individually, use the vertical scroll bar to move among them, or use 
the search box at the top to find one by name.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
l.d.ethie...@gmail.com 
mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2021 7:18:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: a Zoom Question

Hello,
You probably erase it and now only available in your library. Go to library, 
last page, and move it to your main screen.
Lyne

Le 14 août 2021 à 06:36, Noe Villeda 
mailto:noeville...@gmail.com>> a écrit :


I am trying to access Zoom.  For some reason, I don’t have an icon on my phone, 
but it still shows as running in the app store.  Is there a way I can reinstall 
it?




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RE: unable to install public beta on iOS.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Adam,

Give me a yell off list and I’ll give you a hand,

And I’ll find the public beta users list to  send you also.

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Sent: Sunday, 15 August 2021 7:03 pm
To: viPhone 
Subject: unable to install public beta on iOS.

Hi all,
I sign in, download the profile and then restart my phone.
There is no downloaded profile even though the download was successful.
It seems whenever I restart my phone the profile is deleted.
If I check to see if the profile is there before restarting it is.
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How do I turn Automatic Updates On or OFF on iPhone 7 with latest iOS installed.

[Kevin Gibbs]

My wife and I want to know how you can choose the setting to have Facebook and 
Facebook Messenger update automatically or not on iPhone 7.  

I look at my available updates every day and I think I’ve seen options for 
choosing Automatic Updates whenever there is an available update for either FB 
or FB Messenger.  Currently, both of these apps are up to date on both our 
devices.  So, I don’t have an option there.  Is there. Way to go somewhere and 
turn Auto Updates ON or OFF within either FB or the App Store?  

Thanks,
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RE: Multiple Email Addresses in iCloud?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Check under settings,
Accounts and passwords,
As you may have one that you didn’t know had been created,

I didn’t create one myself but I have one

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, 16 August 2021 9:50 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Multiple Email Addresses in iCloud?

Hi, Group.
I have iPhone8 with iOS14.7.
I do not have an iCloud email address, I would like to have one. How can I do 
that, please?
Can I create more than one email address there too?
Thanks!

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RE: NLS eReader by Humanware observations

[Richard Turner]

Updated version with the info about the cursor routing buttons made more clear.

I have had the eReader from NLS made by Humanware for about three days.
My impressions are below, in no particular order.
1. The neck strap is cheap and not at all comfortable. It is too skinny, and 
made out of a very rough material.
2. There are two space bars that for me, are not positioned well. I use my 
right thumb for pressing the space bar and I find its position slightly too far 
to the right.
3. There are cursor routing buttons over each of the 20 cells, but no markers 
every 5 like on most displays with routing buttons.
4. The keyboard is ergonomically designed with the slight curve. The space bars 
are below the braille cells, which is fine for me but I know some people prefer 
the space bar closer to the keyboard.
The keys have more play in them than I expected. They feel a little spongy.
5. The case makes it look like a hardback book. It opens just like a book 
cover, with the spine on the back of the unit leaving the front thumb keys 
exposed.  The best word I can think of is, "cute."
6. The braille feels better to me than on the Humanware braille note touch 
plus, but not quite as good as on the Orbit Readers.
7.  It does not have a note taker, but can be connected to a computer or a 
smart phone to be used as a braille keyboard.
8.  The setup for Bluetooth devices is much like other Humanware displays.  It 
follows Humanware's logic, which is not my logic, but following the 
instructions did work.
9.  NLS BARD login and download is very straight forward.
10.  Changing braille grades is slow.  Press Space+g and you have to wait about 
6 or 7 seconds before the grade shows up, Then, once the one you want is on the 
display, wait another 6 or 7 seconds for the display to go back to what you 
were doing.
11.  when used as a braille input device with an iPhone SE 2020, it works 
pretty much as well as all displays work, which is very good.
12.  The battery life seems to be maybe 6 or 8 hours, hard to be sure yet.
13.  There is no internet browser, Wi-Fi is used for downloading BARD books and 
updating the firmware.
14.  The wi-Fi set up was pretty straight forward, as Humanware devices go.
15.  I have not tried using it with the computer.
16.  It takes approximately 20 seconds to start up and about 17 seconds to shut 
down.  Probably due to the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth functions, I am not sure.

To get an eReader from NLS you have to contact your regional library for the 
blind and sign up for braille materials, and then request the eReader.  If you 
already receive braille materials, simply contact them and ask how to get sign 
up for an eReader if your library is participating in the program that is..
At this point, it is still considered a pilot program and you have to agree to 
participate in several surveys at 2, 4, and 6 months after receiving the device 
and of course, to return it if you are not going to use it.  If you want, you 
can keep it after the pilot project is finished.
Oregon seems to be getting the Humanware device; some states are getting the 
one from Zoomax.
There are YouTube videos walking through each device, settings, how to…, etc..
Here is the physical description link for the Humanware device: 
https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9336/

Here is the physical description link for the Zoomax device: 
https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9653/





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Multiple Email Addresses in iCloud?

[Fazil]

Hi, Group.

I have iPhone8 with iOS14.7.

I do not have an iCloud email address, I would like to have one. How can I
do that, please?

Can I create more than one email address there too?

Thanks!

 

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Re: NLS eReader by Humanware observations

[Julia Kulak]

Hi everyone. Richard, thank you very much for this description. Devon, I don’t 
care if the voice over driver has more holes than a block of Swiss cheese. I am 
just grateful to have a free braille display! Julia.
> On Aug 15, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> 
> Try going into keyboard help mode on the iPhone with Space with K, and press 
> the Up and Down keys. See the holes in VoiceOver's driver for the thing. :) 
> NVDA has no such faults, go figure.
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 2:49 PM Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> I have had the eReader from NLS made by Humanware for about three days.
>> 
>> My impressions are below, in no particular order.
>> 
>> 1. The neck strap is cheap and not at all comfortable. It is too skinny, and 
>> made out of a very rough material.
>> 
>> 2. There are two space bars that for me, are not positioned well. I use my 
>> right thumb for pressing the space bar and I find its position slightly too 
>> far to the right.
>> 
>> 3. There are the 20 cursor routing buttons over each cell, but no markers 
>> every 5 like on most displays with routing buttons.
>> 
>> 4. The keyboard is ergonomically designed with the slight curve. The space 
>> bars are below the braille cells, which is fine for me but I know some 
>> people prefer the space bar closer to the keyboard.
>> 
>> The keys have more play in them than I expected. They feel a little spongy.
>> 
>> 5. The case makes it look like a hardback book. It opens just like a book 
>> cover, with the spine on the back of the unit leaving the front thumb keys 
>> exposed.  The best word I can think of is, "cute."
>> 
>> 6. The braille feels better to me than on the Humanware braille note touch 
>> plus, but not quite as good as on the Orbit Readers.
>> 
>> 7.  It does not have a note taker, but can be connected to a computer or a 
>> smart phone to be used as a braille keyboard.
>> 
>> 8.  The setup for Bluetooth devices is much like other Humanware displays.  
>> It follows Humanware's logic, which is not my logic, but following the 
>> instructions did work.
>> 
>> 9.  NLS BARD login and download is very straight forward.
>> 
>> 10.  Changing braille grades is slow.  Press Space+g and you have to wait 
>> about 6 or 7 seconds before the grade shows up, Then, once the one you want 
>> is on the display, wait another 6 or 7 seconds for the display to go back to 
>> what you were doing.
>> 
>> 11.  when used as a braille input device with an iPhone SE 2020, it works 
>> pretty much as well as all displays work, which is very good.
>> 
>> 12.  The battery life seems to be maybe 6 or 8 hours, hard to be sure yet.
>> 
>> 13.  There is no internet browser, Wi-Fi is used for downloading BARD books 
>> and updating the firmware.
>> 
>> 14.  The wi-Fi set up was pretty straight forward, as Humanware devices go.
>> 
>> 15.  I have not tried using it with the computer.
>> 
>> 16.  It takes approximately 20 seconds to start up and about 17 seconds to 
>> shut down.  Probably due to the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth functions, I am not sure.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> To get an eReader from NLS you have to contact your regional library for the 
>> blind and sign up for braille materials, and then request the eReader.  If 
>> you already receive braille materials, simply contact them and ask how to 
>> get sign up for an eReader if your library is participating in the program 
>> that is..
>> 
>> At this point, it is still considered a pilot program and you have to agree 
>> to participate in several surveys at 2, 4, and 6 months after receiving the 
>> device and of course, to return it if you are not going to use it.  If you 
>> want, you can keep it after the pilot project is finished.
>> 
>> Oregon seems to be getting the Humanware device; some states are getting the 
>> one from Zoomax.
>> 
>> There are YouTube videos walking through each device, settings, how to…, 
>> etc..
>> 
>> Here is the physical description link for the Humanware device: 
>> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9336/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Here is the physical description link for the Zoomax device: 
>> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9653/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>> 
>>  
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Re: NLS eReader by Humanware observations

[Devin Prater]

Try going into keyboard help mode on the iPhone with Space with K, and
press the Up and Down keys. See the holes in VoiceOver's driver for the
thing. :) NVDA has no such faults, go figure.
Devin Prater
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On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 2:49 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> I have had the eReader from NLS made by Humanware for about three days.
>
> My impressions are below, in no particular order.
>
> 1. The neck strap is cheap and not at all comfortable. It is too skinny,
> and made out of a very rough material.
>
> 2. There are two space bars that for me, are not positioned well. I use my
> right thumb for pressing the space bar and I find its position slightly too
> far to the right.
>
> 3. There are the 20 cursor routing buttons over each cell, but no markers
> every 5 like on most displays with routing buttons.
>
> 4. The keyboard is ergonomically designed with the slight curve. The space
> bars are below the braille cells, which is fine for me but I know some
> people prefer the space bar closer to the keyboard.
>
> The keys have more play in them than I expected. They feel a little spongy.
>
> 5. The case makes it look like a hardback book. It opens just like a book
> cover, with the spine on the back of the unit leaving the front thumb keys
> exposed.  The best word I can think of is, "cute."
>
> 6. The braille feels better to me than on the Humanware braille note touch
> plus, but not quite as good as on the Orbit Readers.
>
> 7.  It does not have a note taker, but can be connected to a computer or a
> smart phone to be used as a braille keyboard.
>
> 8.  The setup for Bluetooth devices is much like other Humanware
> displays.  It follows Humanware's logic, which is not my logic, but
> following the instructions did work.
>
> 9.  NLS BARD login and download is very straight forward.
>
> 10.  Changing braille grades is slow.  Press Space+g and you have to wait
> about 6 or 7 seconds before the grade shows up, Then, once the one you want
> is on the display, wait another 6 or 7 seconds for the display to go back
> to what you were doing.
>
> 11.  when used as a braille input device with an iPhone SE 2020, it works
> pretty much as well as all displays work, which is very good.
>
> 12.  The battery life seems to be maybe 6 or 8 hours, hard to be sure yet.
>
> 13.  There is no internet browser, Wi-Fi is used for downloading BARD
> books and updating the firmware.
>
> 14.  The wi-Fi set up was pretty straight forward, as Humanware devices go.
>
> 15.  I have not tried using it with the computer.
>
> 16.  It takes approximately 20 seconds to start up and about 17 seconds to
> shut down.  Probably due to the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth functions, I am not
> sure.
>
>
>
> To get an eReader from NLS you have to contact your regional library for
> the blind and sign up for braille materials, and then request the eReader.
> If you already receive braille materials, simply contact them and ask how
> to get sign up for an eReader if your library is participating in the
> program that is..
>
> At this point, it is still considered a pilot program and you have to
> agree to participate in several surveys at 2, 4, and 6 months after
> receiving the device and of course, to return it if you are not going to
> use it.  If you want, you can keep it after the pilot project is finished.
>
> Oregon seems to be getting the Humanware device; some states are getting
> the one from Zoomax.
>
> There are YouTube videos walking through each device, settings, how to…,
> etc..
>
> Here is the physical description link for the Humanware device:
> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9336/
>
>
>
> Here is the physical description link for the Zoomax device:
> https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9653/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>
>
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RE: unable to install public beta on iOS.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Adam,

Please do not post beta software issues in this forum.

I suggest that you join the public beta lists so that you may find all the help 
you need on beta topics.

Thank you,

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Adam Morris
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 12:03 AM
To: viPhone
Subject: unable to install public beta on iOS.

Hi all,
I sign in, download the profile and then restart my phone.
There is no downloaded profile even though the download was successful.
It seems whenever I restart my phone the profile is deleted.
If I check to see if the profile is there before restarting it is.
Wondering what I'm missing?


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NLS eReader by Humanware observations

[Richard Turner]

I have had the eReader from NLS made by Humanware for about three days.
My impressions are below, in no particular order.
1. The neck strap is cheap and not at all comfortable. It is too skinny, and 
made out of a very rough material.
2. There are two space bars that for me, are not positioned well. I use my 
right thumb for pressing the space bar and I find its position slightly too far 
to the right.
3. There are the 20 cursor routing buttons over each cell, but no markers every 
5 like on most displays with routing buttons.
4. The keyboard is ergonomically designed with the slight curve. The space bars 
are below the braille cells, which is fine for me but I know some people prefer 
the space bar closer to the keyboard.
The keys have more play in them than I expected. They feel a little spongy.
5. The case makes it look like a hardback book. It opens just like a book 
cover, with the spine on the back of the unit leaving the front thumb keys 
exposed.  The best word I can think of is, "cute."
6. The braille feels better to me than on the Humanware braille note touch 
plus, but not quite as good as on the Orbit Readers.
7.  It does not have a note taker, but can be connected to a computer or a 
smart phone to be used as a braille keyboard.
8.  The setup for Bluetooth devices is much like other Humanware displays.  It 
follows Humanware's logic, which is not my logic, but following the 
instructions did work.
9.  NLS BARD login and download is very straight forward.
10.  Changing braille grades is slow.  Press Space+g and you have to wait about 
6 or 7 seconds before the grade shows up, Then, once the one you want is on the 
display, wait another 6 or 7 seconds for the display to go back to what you 
were doing.
11.  when used as a braille input device with an iPhone SE 2020, it works 
pretty much as well as all displays work, which is very good.
12.  The battery life seems to be maybe 6 or 8 hours, hard to be sure yet.
13.  There is no internet browser, Wi-Fi is used for downloading BARD books and 
updating the firmware.
14.  The wi-Fi set up was pretty straight forward, as Humanware devices go.
15.  I have not tried using it with the computer.
16.  It takes approximately 20 seconds to start up and about 17 seconds to shut 
down.  Probably due to the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth functions, I am not sure.

To get an eReader from NLS you have to contact your regional library for the 
blind and sign up for braille materials, and then request the eReader.  If you 
already receive braille materials, simply contact them and ask how to get sign 
up for an eReader if your library is participating in the program that is..
At this point, it is still considered a pilot program and you have to agree to 
participate in several surveys at 2, 4, and 6 months after receiving the device 
and of course, to return it if you are not going to use it.  If you want, you 
can keep it after the pilot project is finished.
Oregon seems to be getting the Humanware device; some states are getting the 
one from Zoomax.
There are YouTube videos walking through each device, settings, how to..., etc..
Here is the physical description link for the Humanware device: 
https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9336/

Here is the physical description link for the Zoomax device: 
https://www.loc.gov/item/webcast-9653/








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Re: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one

[Arnold Schmidt]

I don't mean to make you feel bad, but I decided to load it onto my SE 2 to 
find out how it acted. I do not have a subscription so I can't say how, or if 
that would make a difference, but I was able to use it fine. I then closed it 
out of the app switcher and restarted it, with the same results. About the only 
things left to try are reset your phone, reset network settings, then the reset 
all settings. If you have to go that route, do it when you have sighted 
assistance in case voice over doesn't come back on. It does for most people, it 
didn't come back on for me the one time I did it. Hey, that app and voice over 
in your 10R are just prejudiced against each other. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Aug 15, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Yes. As a matter fact, since recognition is out of my rotor, I had to go into 
that long list of applications to see which ones had it enabled. It was 
enabled, and I did turn it off, and it didn’t make a difference.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2021, at 8:38 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Even though you turned off Screen recognition, did you double check under 
> the VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition, Apply to Apps, that it isn't 
> selected for the L.A. Times?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 8:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one
> 
> Screen recognition is off on the ten r. The 7+ doesn’t have it. And describe 
> images is off on both phones. And I did completely uninstall the app before I 
> sent my first message on this topic. Reinstalled without success. But if I 
> load it with voiceover off, it works. On the 7+, it just works. Don’t have to 
> unload voiceover first.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Did you make sure screen recognition is set the same way on both phones? I 
>> have seen apps which work perfectly well without screen recognition and 
>> which are completely messed up when it's turned on.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: August 14, 2021 1:52 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one
>> 
>> I have been a subscriber to the Los Angeles times for a while now. I use the 
>> app on my phone. However, with my 10 R, the app appears to load but nothing 
>> is showing up on the screen for voiceover. With my older 7+, the app blows 
>> as it should and everything shows up. I’m running the same version of the 
>> operating system on both devices, and I have reinstalled the app on my 10r 
>> to no avail. I don’t get it. Has anyone seen this problem with an app? How 
>> to fix it?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one

[Mary Otten]

Yes. As a matter fact, since recognition is out of my rotor, I had to go into 
that long list of applications to see which ones had it enabled. It was 
enabled, and I did turn it off, and it didn’t make a difference.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2021, at 8:38 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Even though you turned off Screen recognition, did you double check under 
> the VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition, Apply to Apps, that it isn't 
> selected for the L.A. Times?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 8:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one
> 
> Screen recognition is off on the ten r. The 7+ doesn’t have it. And describe 
> images is off on both phones. And I did completely uninstall the app before I 
> sent my first message on this topic. Reinstalled without success. But if I 
> load it with voiceover off, it works. On the 7+, it just works. Don’t have to 
> unload voiceover first.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Did you make sure screen recognition is set the same way on both phones? I 
>> have seen apps which work perfectly well without screen recognition and 
>> which are completely messed up when it's turned on.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: August 14, 2021 1:52 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one
>> 
>> I have been a subscriber to the Los Angeles times for a while now. I use the 
>> app on my phone. However, with my 10 R, the app appears to load but nothing 
>> is showing up on the screen for voiceover. With my older 7+, the app blows 
>> as it should and everything shows up. I’m running the same version of the 
>> operating system on both devices, and I have reinstalled the app on my 10r 
>> to no avail. I don’t get it. Has anyone seen this problem with an app? How 
>> to fix it?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one

[Richard Turner]

Even though you turned off Screen recognition, did you double check under the 
VoiceOver Recognition, Screen Recognition, Apply to Apps, that it isn't 
selected for the L.A. Times?





Richard
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Web site: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one

Screen recognition is off on the ten r. The 7+ doesn’t have it. And describe 
images is off on both phones. And I did completely uninstall the app before I 
sent my first message on this topic. Reinstalled without success. But if I load 
it with voiceover off, it works. On the 7+, it just works. Don’t have to unload 
voiceover first.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Did you make sure screen recognition is set the same way on both phones? I 
> have seen apps which work perfectly well without screen recognition and which 
> are completely messed up when it's turned on.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: August 14, 2021 1:52 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one
> 
> I have been a subscriber to the Los Angeles times for a while now. I use the 
> app on my phone. However, with my 10 R, the app appears to load but nothing 
> is showing up on the screen for voiceover. With my older 7+, the app blows as 
> it should and everything shows up. I’m running the same version of the 
> operating system on both devices, and I have reinstalled the app on my 10r to 
> no avail. I don’t get it. Has anyone seen this problem with an app? How to 
> fix it?
> 
> 
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Re: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one

[Mary Otten]

Screen recognition is off on the ten r. The 7+ doesn’t have it. And describe 
images is off on both phones. And I did completely uninstall the app before I 
sent my first message on this topic. Reinstalled without success. But if I load 
it with voiceover off, it works. On the 7+, it just works. Don’t have to unload 
voiceover first.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Did you make sure screen recognition is set the same way on both phones? I 
> have seen apps which work perfectly well without screen recognition and which 
> are completely messed up when it's turned on.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: August 14, 2021 1:52 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one
> 
> I have been a subscriber to the Los Angeles times for a while now. I use the 
> app on my phone. However, with my 10 R, the app appears to load but nothing 
> is showing up on the screen for voiceover. With my older 7+, the app blows as 
> it should and everything shows up. I’m running the same version of the 
> operating system on both devices, and I have reinstalled the app on my 10r to 
> no avail. I don’t get it. Has anyone seen this problem with an app? How to 
> fix it?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

[Marie N]

Not sure what this has to do with Voicemail not working?


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

YouMail is primarily available in the US and apparently it is available in 
Canada if you are with one of the big 3 providers, Telus, Bell or Rogers.
When you do a search on Google for "Is Youmail available outside the United 
States", you get the following:


Aug. 3, 2021 — YouMail supports AT, Verizon Wireless, Sprint and T-Mobile, 
as well as many other U.S.  carriers


On their website there is a place where you can enter  your mobile number 
and it says they will then text you a link to download the app, but when I 
did I was told my number was not in service or something like that. My 
provider in Canada is Koodo which is owned by Telus, it's a bit cheaper, but 
it apparently does not support this. One other complaint I have with Koodo 
is that even though it's owned by Telus and runs on the same network there 
still is no support for adding a cellular Apple Watch to your plan. 
Otherwise I am quite happy with the service, I pay $50 a month and get 
unlimited Canada-wide calling and texting, basic voice mail and 9 Gb of 
data. But plans are always changing and if at some point Telus has a good 
offer or promo I may change back because I'd gladly pay $10/month to add my 
Apple Watch so I'm able t take calls in situations when I don't have or want 
to bring my iPhone.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback

Sent: August 15, 2021 5:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?
Importance: High

can't seem to find that app, are you sure it is available in the UK?

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?



I'd try calling apple accessibility.  Also, try an app called you mail
which is a lot better then the phone's regular voice mail.

On 8/10/21, goshawk on horseback 
wrote:

hello all,
is anyone else having trouble with the phone's voicemail tab since the
latest IOS update?
as I am, on both of my iPhones.
if I select the voicemail tab, the screen all but stops responding, and
all
I can get to speak are the top of screen status bar items. if I do the
home
gesture, that works, and things start working, until I go back in to the
phone app, when the same thing happens before the phone app stops working
and the phone goes back to the home screen, so can only assume that the
phone app crashed or something.
they are both iPhone x, and have tried this at least 3 times on each
phone,
always with the same result.

Simon

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Your Apple Watch can only save your life later if you turn on these features

[Dennis Long]

 

Taken from the link at the end of the article.

I'm not surprised anymore when I see stories of people who say the Apple
Watch saved their lives. From fall detection to heart-rate monitoring, that
little piece of tech can spotlight issues that could go unnoticed with fatal
consequences.

Of course, you need to make sure your other gadgets are ready to aid you in
an emergency, too. Tap or click for built-in phone settings that make it
easier to call 911, alert others of medical conditions, and more
 .

Now, grab your Apple Watch and let's get the must-have health features set
up. 


First, set up the Health app


Your Apple Watch works in tandem with your iPhone, so you need to start
there. The Health app allows you to enter details about your body, like your
height, weight and blood type. There are several other options you can
choose to include or skip. Here's how to access it:

*   Open the Health app.
*   Select your profile picture in the top right-hand corner.
*   Click on Health Details.
*   Enter your information. 


Check your heart rate


While your Apple Watch won't give you a perfect reading of your heart rate,
it can give you a close estimate. To check, open the Heart Rate app on your
Apple Watch. You will see your current heart rate, resting rate, and walking
average rate.

As long as your watch is on, it takes regular readings of your heart rate
and saves the data. If you want to view previous heart rates, press the
arrow in the upper left corner of the app. 


Take an electrocardiogram


With an Apple Watch Series 4 or later  , you can
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strength of your heartbeat. Doctors often use these tests to look for
irregularities.

An important note: This feature is not a replacement for seeing your
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*   Open the Health app on your iPhone.
*   Tap the Browse tab, then tap Heart > Electrocardiograms (ECG) > Set
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*   After you complete the setup, open the ECG app.

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selected in the Apple Watch app. To check, open the Apple Watch app, tap the
My Watch tab, then go to General > Watch Orientation.
*   Open the ECG app on your watch.
*   Rest your arms on a table or in your lap.
*   With the hand opposite your watch, hold your finger on the Digital
Crown (the small dial on the side of your watch). You don't need to press
the Digital Crown during the session.
*   Wait. The recording takes 30 seconds. At the end of the recording,
you will receive a classification; then you can tap Add Symptoms and choose
your symptoms.
*   Tap Save to note any symptoms, then tap Done. 


Fall detection


Do a quick search and you'll see how many lives this feature has saved. Once
turned on, if the watch detects a fall, it can contact emergency services to
get you help. To set it up:

*   Open the Watch app.
*   Swipe down.
*   Select Emergency SOS.
*   Tap the switch to enable Fall Detection.

Now that Fall Detection is enabled, it will sound an alarm if you fall. If
you don't respond, Apple will contact emergency services. 


Set up Medical ID


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Health app and store it on your watch. Open the Health app and tap on the
Medical ID option. You can add your past medical history, allergies,
medications and any other details in the event of an emergency. 


Blood oxygen sensor


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to let you know if you have a healthy amount of oxygen circulating in your
blood. Again, don't use this in place of a doctor if you are experiencing
any breathing-related issues.

When tracking your blood oxygen level, you should see a number between 95
and 100. If you get repeat readings lower than that, contact your doctor.

To set this up:

*   Open the Health app on your iPhone.
*   Tap the Browse tab, then tap Respiratory > Blood Oxygen > Set up
Blood Oxygen.
*   After you complete setup, open the Blood Oxygen app on your Apple
Watch.

To take a blood oxygen measurement:

*   Make sure that your watch is snug but still comfortable.
*   Open the Blood Oxygen app on your Apple Watch.
*   Stay still. Keep your wrist flat, with the watch facing up.
*   Tap Start. Keep your arm steady for 15 seconds. At the end of the

RE: About my LA Times app problem

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You may want to delete the app entirely and reinstall it to see if that fixes 
the issue.

-Original Message-
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Brandt
Sent: August 14, 2021 10:07 PM
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Subject: Re: About my LA Times app problem

Is screen/Image recognition offer on?

> On Aug 14, 2021, at 6:23 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I decided to turn off voiceover and then tell Siri to load the LA Times app. 
> I then turn voiceover back on. Everything is on the screen as it should be. 
> So there is some kind of conflict going on with voiceover when the app loads 
> on this phone. It doesn’t happen on the other one. Both phones are using the 
> same voice, Alex as the default voice. Go figure!
> 
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RE: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Did you make sure screen recognition is set the same way on both phones? I have 
seen apps which work perfectly well without screen recognition and which are 
completely messed up when it's turned on.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: August 14, 2021 1:52 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Problem with the LA Times app on one phone but not the other one

I have been a subscriber to the Los Angeles times for a while now. I use the 
app on my phone. However, with my 10 R, the app appears to load but nothing is 
showing up on the screen for voiceover. With my older 7+, the app blows as it 
should and everything shows up. I’m running the same version of the operating 
system on both devices, and I have reinstalled the app on my 10r to no avail. I 
don’t get it. Has anyone seen this problem with an app? How to fix it?


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RE: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

YouMail is primarily available in the US and apparently it is available in 
Canada if you are with one of the big 3 providers, Telus, Bell or Rogers.
When you do a search on Google for "Is Youmail available outside the United 
States", you get the following:

Aug. 3, 2021 — YouMail supports AT, Verizon Wireless, Sprint and T-Mobile, as 
well as many other U.S.  carriers

On their website there is a place where you can enter  your mobile number and 
it says they will then text you a link to download the app, but when I did I 
was told my number was not in service or something like that. My provider in 
Canada is Koodo which is owned by Telus, it's a bit cheaper, but it apparently 
does not support this. One other complaint I have with Koodo is that even 
though it's owned by Telus and runs on the same network there still is no 
support for adding a cellular Apple Watch to your plan. Otherwise I am quite 
happy with the service, I pay $50 a month and get unlimited Canada-wide calling 
and texting, basic voice mail and 9 Gb of data. But plans are always changing 
and if at some point Telus has a good offer or promo I may change back because 
I'd gladly pay $10/month to add my Apple Watch so I'm able t take calls in 
situations when I don't have or want to bring my iPhone.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of goshawk 
on horseback
Sent: August 15, 2021 5:44 AM
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Importance: High

can't seem to find that app, are you sure it is available in the UK?

Simon


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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?


> I'd try calling apple accessibility.  Also, try an app called you mail
> which is a lot better then the phone's regular voice mail.
>
> On 8/10/21, goshawk on horseback  
> wrote:
>> hello all,
>> is anyone else having trouble with the phone's voicemail tab since the
>> latest IOS update?
>> as I am, on both of my iPhones.
>> if I select the voicemail tab, the screen all but stops responding, and 
>> all
>> I can get to speak are the top of screen status bar items. if I do the 
>> home
>> gesture, that works, and things start working, until I go back in to the
>> phone app, when the same thing happens before the phone app stops working
>> and the phone goes back to the home screen, so can only assume that the
>> phone app crashed or something.
>> they are both iPhone x, and have tried this at least 3 times on each 
>> phone,
>> always with the same result.
>>
>> Simon
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Re: business digital mobile connect

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

I use an app called 1Password. After I put my username and password in that 
app, there is a way to copy that password to your clipboard. Once that is 
copied to your clipboard, you can turn your rotor to edit Ann flick down to 
paste. Hope this helps a little bit.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Aug 14, 2021, at 5:28 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I recently started using business digital mobile connect with my phones at my 
> office. To sign in, it wants my password, which is long. Is there a way to 
> copy and paste my password into the app to sign in?
> Thanks.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 06:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wireless charging pad
>  
> There was a 6.% coupon when I was on the site. this is by Nanami, who I do 
> not really know; , but they include the fast charging adapter; where the 
> Anchor for a few dollars less did not.
> It has a 60 day return policy which I like.
> https://www.amazon.com/NANAMI-Wireless-Certified-Charging-Compatible/dp/B08Y6D6KG6/ref=sr_1_16?
>  
> dchild=1=iphone+se+charging+pad=1628871392=8-16
>  
>  
>  
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:10 PM, Brett Campbell  wrote:
> 
>  Do you mind sharing a link to the product you selected?
>  
> 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>  
> Thanks to Sieghard for pointing out the lesser cost these days for the 
> wireless pad than for the lightning adapter that allows charging while 
> listening with wired earphones.
> My adapter is failing and only charging about half the time; so instead of 
> spending $40 to replace it, I'm spending about $16 for a fast charging 
> wireless pad.
> Amazon makes this stuff too easy.
> Later,
>  
> 
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Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

[goshawk on horseback]

can't seem to find that app, are you sure it is available in the UK?

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?



I'd try calling apple accessibility.  Also, try an app called you mail
which is a lot better then the phone's regular voice mail.

On 8/10/21, goshawk on horseback  
wrote:

hello all,
is anyone else having trouble with the phone's voicemail tab since the
latest IOS update?
as I am, on both of my iPhones.
if I select the voicemail tab, the screen all but stops responding, and 
all
I can get to speak are the top of screen status bar items. if I do the 
home

gesture, that works, and things start working, until I go back in to the
phone app, when the same thing happens before the phone app stops working
and the phone goes back to the home screen, so can only assume that the
phone app crashed or something.
they are both iPhone x, and have tried this at least 3 times on each 
phone,

always with the same result.

Simon

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Re: unable to install public beta on iOS.

[Richard Turner]

Sorry, I should not have replied.
You should not be discussing the beta on a public list.
Please join the public beta list.

Richard
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On Aug 15, 2021, at 5:00 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 did you double tap on the profile and do the install before rebooting?
You have to install it not just download it.



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On Aug 15, 2021, at 12:03 AM, Adam Morris  wrote:

 Hi all,
I sign in, download the profile and then restart my phone.
There is no downloaded profile even though the download was successful.
It seems whenever I restart my phone the profile is deleted.
If I check to see if the profile is there before restarting it is.
Wondering what I'm missing?


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Re: unable to install public beta on iOS.

[Richard Turner]

did you double tap on the profile and do the install before rebooting?
You have to install it not just download it.



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On Aug 15, 2021, at 12:03 AM, Adam Morris  wrote:

 Hi all,
I sign in, download the profile and then restart my phone.
There is no downloaded profile even though the download was successful.
It seems whenever I restart my phone the profile is deleted.
If I check to see if the profile is there before restarting it is.
Wondering what I'm missing?


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unable to install public beta on iOS.

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,
I sign in, download the profile and then restart my phone.
There is no downloaded profile even though the download was successful.
It seems whenever I restart my phone the profile is deleted.
If I check to see if the profile is there before restarting it is.
Wondering what I'm missing?

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