date:20211018

I am surprised that I didn't find a single message tonight about this morning's 
Apple Event. I didn't have time yet to listen, but saw a few headlines about 
new Airpods, HomePods with new colours, better SIRI integration with Apple 
Music and a new "voice only" subscription for Apple Music in addition to the 
personal and family plans. This one apparently is only $4.99 US a month and 
gives you access to all 90 Million songs Apple has plus all their curated 
playlists, any idea how this is different from a regular subscription? Does it 
mean you can't open the music app and find music this way or maybe you can play 
anything, but can't add anything to your library or download it?

The rest apparently was all Mac related which is of no interest to me as a 
Windows/PC user.


Take care,
Sieghard

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RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi Richard,

There is one mistake in your list of commands, you write:

*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.

On an iPhone without a home button you push and hold the power button which is 
also called side button for SIRI. In order to power off the phone you press and 
hold the side button and volume down button at the same time until the power 
off menu appears, this menu also includes the SOS/9 1 1 call button so make 
sure you are not on it but to swipe right all the way until you get to "Power 
Off" before you double tap.

I find telling 
SIRI to "Open General Settings" and to then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom 
of the screen is just as easy, this puts focus straight on the shutdown button, 
but you still get the same menu except that focus is at least for me reliably 
on the power off button if you do it this way.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*   Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
*   Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
*   Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
  * Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
*   Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or 
until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*   Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button Starting at the bottom of 
the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel three haptic vibrations 
referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home 
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a function. Note: The first 
click alerts you that you are in the feature.
*   Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.

Notification and Control Center

Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
*   Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one finger 
down until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Access the Notification Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 
finger down until the  third click. Lift your finger from the screen.

Other settings
Raise to Wake, under Settings, Display and Brightness, defaults to on.
If you find that your phone is constantly trying to "wake" up or unlock, and 
perhaps the battery is not giving you the time you thought it should, try 
turning that feature off.  If you use VoiceOver, and it is constantly saying 
the time whenever you move the iPhone, you probably have raise to wake on and 
each time the phone moves, it is trying to wake up.  
People who carry their phone in a bag or a purse may find it is constantly 
waking up from the movement of the bag/purse.

There is also a feature called Tap to Wake, under Settings, Accessibility, 
Touch, that allows you to wake up the phone by tapping in the middle of the 
screen with one finger.



Richard
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Jane Wagner

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-Original Message-
From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures 
I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi all 

Apologies for this, as I'm sure many of you will probably think I'm seriously 
behind the times.

RE: iPad Question?

Containers are areas on the screen, on an iPad the left and right windows are 
separate containers as is the dock and the main home screen. I am pretty sure 
by default containers is in the rotor, just go to it and then flick left or 
right.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: October 18, 2021 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

Hi Pam,

I actually have the new iPad mini on order. Could you explain what containers 
are and how you would navigate them. Do you swipe left and right the same as 
you do with other elements? Thanks for the assist.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
 wrote:

I have an iPad mini.  It’s not the very newest one but the one prior to that.  
My dock is actually at the bottom of the screen, like my iPhone.

I do find that navigating by containers can really be helpful on the iPad.

Pam

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.

Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

Thanks much, Richard.
May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.

Richard
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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!

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RE: iPad Question?

And the dock is also its own container and as Richard said, especially on the 
iPad I think using containers is very important and necessary.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.

Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

Thanks much, Richard.
May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner

website:  
www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!

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RE: Old List Messages Reappeared

2021-10-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Well Carolyn,

It will eventually happen 
But hey have fun now while you stil can.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 7:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Old List Messages Reappeared

And, I thought that finally, old age was catching up to me - LOL. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Old List Messages Reappeared

Thank you,

I thought I was dreaming when all these old messages showed up as unread.

Apparently GoogleGroups had a hiccup.

Richard

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Jane Wagner

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dm-h...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 6:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Old List Messages Reappeared

Hi Everyone,

When I looked at my email this morning I realized that a lot of old list 
messages had reappeared in my inbox. This happened around 3:09 through about 
3:13 am, I guess eastern time. Did anyone else experience this, or was this a 
problem with Comcast or something of mine?

Thanks for any information.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby

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RE: iPad Question?

2021-10-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Sorry Richard,
You think wrong,

The layout on the iPads is the same as on the iPhone,

But on the ipads you get a few extra items now on the dock / frequently used
But otherwise the same.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 9:14 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

Thanks much, Richard.
May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
Thanks!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.


Richard
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Jane Wagner





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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil 
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Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!

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RE: off topic: Blind shell phone

2021-10-18 Thread Paula Jordan

Hi Rob.  Thanks for the info.  My friend isn't sure who would be the carrier 
for such a phone.  If you want you can write me off-list at 
pau...@roadrunner.com.
I've forwarded your information to her.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 3:25 PM
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Subject: Re: off topic: Blind shell phone

Hi, I have these, I liked them from the start.

www.blindshell.com is their site I think, worth checking.

they have 3 main button models;  plus  one they call the "Boroque" I think, 
hwich implements  the BS on a touch screen.  Tapping on virtual number buttons 
repeatedly to get letter is bit of a nonsense.

But the 3 button versions are good.
The original is a little smaller and would  be regarded as a feature phone 
maybe,  the Classic 2 is a bit chunkier and a more robust and spaced number pad 
which feels a lot better and does have some app options like you'd expect on 
current smartt phone.  I opted for fB Messenger and whatsapp.

Browser has a good range of navigation options and so easy to toggle on the 
number keys, then up/down buttons to move by that increment.  
default/headings/controls, links/words/landmarks. then top of page, continuous 
read,  bottom of page.
The last 3 set things too.  bak/title/help.
Adopted this as casual browser when pc not on.

The third model is the light, priced accordingly  though no idea how much, but 
is just a phone with basic phone features, all of which at least talk - 
dial/sms/contacts mainly,  but just dial has 3 lists or sources of number to 
dial.
Thay all have the SOS button on back and hot dial by pres-and-hold on the 10 
digit buttons.

I'm very happy with this model and decommissioned an iPhone for the simm out 
ofit.
Micro-simm, not nano.

Worth checkin on site about the Light sicne it might have  
clock/timer/alarm/stopwatch and the like.

Hth, RobH.


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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 5:07 PM
Subject: off topic: Blind shell phone


Hi all.  I know this is a little off topic, but I'm wondering if anyone has
any information about the blind shell phone.  I know of someone who is
looking for one for her dad who is not able to manage an iphone.  If you'd
like you can write me off list at pau...@roadrunner.com
 .  Thanks very much.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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RE: Logitech K480 Question

I couldn’t ever get the fn+f3 to work.
And, those two buttons, the one on the left is for Android or PC, the one on 
the right is for iOS or MacOS.

Very nice keyboard.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Logitech K480 Question

Hi,

I use Fn+F3 on my K480 to do this. I also have the IOS keyboard chosen using 
the small buttons on the upper right front area of the keyboard. There are two 
buttons, one for an IOS keyboard and one for a PC keyboard.

I hope this helps.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Oct 18, 2021, at 6:44 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 The best and easiest way I found was to simply turn off the keyboard then 
turn it on when I wanted to use it.
Or just turn the dial to a slot that isn't paired to the phone.


Richard
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Hi, Group.
How can I hide/sho soft keyboard when using K480 with iPhone8?
Thanks!

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Re: Logitech K480 Question

2021-10-18 Thread Dave Clement

Hi, 

I use Fn+F3 on my K480 to do this. I also have the IOS keyboard chosen using 
the small buttons on the upper right front area of the keyboard. There are two 
buttons, one for an IOS keyboard and one for a PC keyboard. 

I hope this helps. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB

On Oct 18, 2021, at 6:44 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 The best and easiest way I found was to simply turn off the keyboard then 
turn it on when I wanted to use it.
Or just turn the dial to a slot that isn't paired to the phone.

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Re: Logitech K480 Question

The best and easiest way I found was to simply turn off the keyboard then turn 
it on when I wanted to use it.
Or just turn the dial to a slot that isn't paired to the phone.



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On Oct 18, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Fazil  wrote:


Hi, Group.
How can I hide/sho soft keyboard when using K480 with iPhone8?
Thanks!


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Logitech K480 Question

Hi, Group.

How can I hide/sho soft keyboard when using K480 with iPhone8?

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Re: Old List Messages Reappeared

2021-10-18 Thread Vicki W.

Yes, same thing happened to me.

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RE: Old List Messages Reappeared

2021-10-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Yeah I got a few
I would say about 30 from a couple of weeks back,


Wasn’t a big issue,

They invented a key press to get rid of t them all.



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RE: iPad Question?

2021-10-18 Thread ilovecountrymusic483

Hi, on my ipad mini 5th gen, my dock is on the bottom of the screen.

Matthew

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

 

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.

So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
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Subject: RE: iPad Question?

 

Thanks much, Richard.

May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

 

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen. 

Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.

 

 

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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

I have iPad Mini.

This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?

Thanks!

 

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RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Eleanor, press the Power Button three times to get VoiceOver to come on. 

I never missed the Home Button at all ever. I[m probably old enough to be your 
grandmother, so my bet is that you'll do fine with the phone. 

Richard's instructions will show you exactly how. Believe me when I tell you, 
it just sounds frustrating, but it is not, and it does work. 

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I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi all 

Apologies for this, as I’m sure many of you will probably think I’m seriously 
behind the times. Basically, I’m getting a new IPhone as part of a job I do 
with/for my local council. Problem is that this new IPhone doesn’t have a 
physical home button. 

I’ve never encountered this before, as I’ve always gone out of my way to make 
sure that my phone has the physical button. However, this phone isn’t my 
choice, and I’m actually very nervous about getting it. 

So was just wondering if anyone could e-mail me a really idiot-proof list of 
instructions so that I can stand half a chance of managing to operate this 
buttonless phone?? Any help really really would be very much appreciated. For 
example, when setting up the phone in the very first place how on earth do I 
get VO to come on?? (Normally I’d just tripple tap the home button, and it’s 
sorted … but with this I’ve no idea). How do I go about switching apps with no 
button? How do I go about turning VO on/off with no button if I need to? The 
list is endless. 

So sorry If I’m coming across as a total idiot, but this phone doesn’t belong 
to me and I’m really really scared of making a total mess of it when I get it. 
So any help/lists of gestures/explanations of how to do anything, no matter how 
basic, really would be most gratefully received and very much appreciated. 

Thanks so much everyone. 

Eleanor 

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Address-bar In iPad?

Hi, group.

I have iPad Mini 2019.

When I go to address-bar in iPhone and swipe right once, I get an option to
delete the selected text. I am not finding this option of deleting the
selected text. In iPad. How can I delete the text in the address-bar to make
room for new address, please?

Thanks!

 

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Re: iPad Question?

2021-10-18 Thread Les Kriegler

Hi Pam,

I actually have the new iPad mini on order. Could you explain what containers 
are and how you would navigate them. Do you swipe left and right the same as 
you do with other elements? Thanks for the assist.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have an iPad mini.  It’s not the very newest one but the one prior to that. 
>  My dock is actually at the bottom of the screen, like my iPhone.
>  
> I do find that navigating by containers can really be helpful on the iPad.
>  
> Pam
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPad Question?
>  
> I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
> So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on 
> the iPad.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPad Question?
>  
> Thanks much, Richard.
> May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPad Question?
>  
> When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
> there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
> Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
> screen and you should find what you want.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>  
> 
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> 
> 
> Hi, Group.
> I have iPad Mini.
> This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
> accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
> of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
> because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
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> anything selected in Settings in iPad?
> Thanks!
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RE: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web site.
But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
*   Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
*   Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
*   Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
  * Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
*   Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds or 
until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
*   Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button.  
Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
*   Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 

New Gestures replacing function of the Home button
Starting at the bottom of the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel 
three haptic vibrations referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" 
when pressing the Home button). Each of these three clicks will activate a 
function. Note: The first click alerts you that you are in the feature.
*   Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.

Notification and Control Center

Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
*   Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one finger 
down until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
*   Access the Notification Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 
finger down until the  third click. Lift your finger from the screen.

Other settings 
Raise to Wake, under Settings, Display and Brightness, defaults to on.
If you find that your phone is constantly trying to "wake" up or unlock, and 
perhaps the battery is not giving you the time you thought it should, try 
turning that feature off.  If you use VoiceOver, and it is constantly saying 
the time whenever you move the iPhone, you probably have raise to wake on and 
each time the phone moves, it is trying to wake up.  
People who carry their phone in a bag or a purse may find it is constantly 
waking up from the movement of the bag/purse.

There is also a feature called Tap to Wake, under Settings, Accessibility, 
Touch, that allows you to wake up the phone by tapping in the middle of the 
screen with one finger.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures 
I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

Hi all 

Apologies for this, as I'm sure many of you will probably think I'm seriously 
behind the times. Basically, I'm getting a new IPhone as part of a job I do 
with/for my local council. Problem is that this new IPhone doesn't have a 
physical home button. 

I've never encountered this before, as I've always gone out of my way to make 
sure that my phone has the physical button. However, this phone isn't my 
choice, and I'm actually very nervous about getting it. 

So was just wondering if anyone could e-mail me a really idiot-proof list of 
instructions so that I can stand half a chance of managing to operate this 
buttonless phone?? Any help really really would be very much appreciated. For 
example, when setting up the phone in the very first place how on earth do I 
get VO to come on?? (Normally I'd just tripple tap the home button, and it's 
sorted ... but with this I've no idea). How do I go about switching apps with 
no button? How do I go about turning VO on/off with no button if I need to? The 
list is endless. 

So sorry If I'm coming across as a total idiot, but this phone doesn't belong 
to me and I'm really really scared of making a total mess of it when I get it. 
So any help/lists of gestures/explanations of how to do anything, no matter how 
basic, really would be most gratefully received and very much appreciated. 

Thanks so much everyone. 

Eleanor 

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RE: iPad Question?

2021-10-18 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND

I have an iPad mini.  It’s not the very newest one but the one prior to that.  
My dock is actually at the bottom of the screen, like my iPhone.

I do find that navigating by containers can really be helpful on the iPad.

Pam


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

Thanks much, Richard.
May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
Thanks!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.


Richard
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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!

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Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

2021-10-18 Thread 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone

Hi all 

Apologies for this, as I’m sure many of you will probably think I’m seriously 
behind the times. Basically, I’m getting a new IPhone as part of a job I do 
with/for my local council. Problem is that this new IPhone doesn’t have a 
physical home button. 

I’ve never encountered this before, as I’ve always gone out of my way to make 
sure that my phone has the physical button. However, this phone isn’t my 
choice, and I’m actually very nervous about getting it. 

So was just wondering if anyone could e-mail me a really idiot-proof list of 
instructions so that I can stand half a chance of managing to operate this 
buttonless phone?? Any help really really would be very much appreciated. For 
example, when setting up the phone in the very first place how on earth do I 
get VO to come on?? (Normally I’d just tripple tap the home button, and it’s 
sorted … but with this I’ve no idea). How do I go about switching apps with no 
button? How do I go about turning VO on/off with no button if I need to? The 
list is endless. 

So sorry If I’m coming across as a total idiot, but this phone doesn’t belong 
to me and I’m really really scared of making a total mess of it when I get it. 
So any help/lists of gestures/explanations of how to do anything, no matter how 
basic, really would be most gratefully received and very much appreciated. 

Thanks so much everyone. 

Eleanor 

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RE: iPad Question?

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

Thanks much, Richard.
May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
Thanks!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  
www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!

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RE: Has anyone activated a new iPhone to use eSim instead of a physical SIM?

2021-10-18 Thread Alan Lemly

HI Brenda,

 

I suspect you might be right about eSIM only working on Verizon postpaid 
accounts. I ended up not even attempting to activate my new iPhone 13 Mini 
using the eSIM option. I had ordered a physical SIM from Verizon which was good 
since my account is Verizon Prepaid. I had a hard enough time getting my new 
iPhone activated on Verizon which I attribute to attempting to do it with my 
old mobile phone which was using the same phone number as the new phone I was 
attempting to set up. I should have figured out this wasn’t going to work but 
until I got disconnected in the middle of the process, I did not make the 
connection, pun intended. Fortunately, I had an available landline I was able 
to use to complete the process with Verizon help. Next time, I’ll use my 
computer and the Verizon website to activate a new iPhone.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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br...@hostany.net
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Has anyone activated a new iPhone to use eSim instead of a 
physical SIM?

 

I am on the Apple upgrade program. I used the Esim to activate my service 
transfer from the 12 to the 13. I am on Verizon also, but on a postpaid 
account. It’s working fine, but I kind of wish I could just have kept the 
physical sim, which is a lot easier to deal with in the event of repair issues, 
beta testing that goes bad, etc. I don’t think they offer Esim on the prepaid 
lines though, but I could be wrong on this.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Has anyone activated a new iPhone to use eSIM instead of a physical 
SIM?

 

Hi List,

 

I realize the answer to my question might vary considerably depending on 
country of location and mobile service carrier. I’ve ordered a new iPhone 13 
Mini and since I have a Verizon Prepaid account, I was unable to specify 
Verizon as my carrier when ordering using the Apple Store app. The order would 
fail each time the app attempted to confirm my Verizon account so I had to 
select the option to purchase the phone for use on any carrier. Phones ordered 
in this way come with no SIM card. I understand from the email Apple sent me 
indicating my iPhone had shipped that I can use eSIM when activating it. I’m 
curious whether anyone on this list has gone the eSIM route when activating a 
new iPhone containing no physical SIM. If you have, I’d love to hear what the 
steps were to do and how your experience was.

 

I’ve been advised not to transfer my existing SIM from my SE 2020 to the 13 
Mini so I do have a new physical SIM which I got Verizon to mail me. I’ll use 
that if the eSIM activation doesn’t work.

 

Thanks in advance for any comments eSIM users can share.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: iPad Question?

Thanks much, Richard.

May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

 

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen. 

Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.

 

 

Richard

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Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil  wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

I have iPad Mini.

This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?

Thanks!

 

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Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil  wrote:


Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!


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RE: off topic: Blind shell phone

2021-10-18 Thread Alan Lemly

Paula,

 

The Blindshell phone gets a good bit of discussion on the PhonesForTheBlind 
list. You can subscribe by sending a blank email to:

 

phonesfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io 
 

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Jordan
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: off topic: Blind shell phone

 

Hi all.  I know this is a little off topic, but I’m wondering if anyone has any 
information about the blind shell phone.  I know of someone who is looking for 
one for her dad who is not able to manage an iphone.  If you’d like you can 
write me off list at pau...@roadrunner.com  .  
Thanks very much.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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iPad Question?

Hi, Group.

I have iPad Mini.

This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being
out of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not
open Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not
open anything selected in Settings in iPad?

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Re: off topic: Blind shell phone

2021-10-18 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone

Hi, I have these, I liked them from the start.

www.blindshell.com is their site I think, worth checking.

they have 3 main button models;  plus  one they call the "Boroque" I think, 
hwich implements  the BS on a touch screen.  Tapping on 
virtual number buttons repeatedly to get letter is bit of a nonsense.

But the 3 button versions are good.
The original is a little smaller and would  be regarded as a feature phone 
maybe,  the Classic 2 is a bit chunkier and a more robust 
and spaced number pad which feels a lot better and does have some app options 
like you'd expect on current smartt phone.  I opted 
for fB Messenger and whatsapp.

Browser has a good range of navigation options and so easy to toggle on the 
number keys, then up/down buttons to move by that 
increment.  default/headings/controls, links/words/landmarks. then top of page, 
continuous read,  bottom of page.
The last 3 set things too.  bak/title/help.
Adopted this as casual browser when pc not on.

The third model is the light, priced accordingly  though no idea how much, but 
is just a phone with basic phone features, all of 
which at least talk - dial/sms/contacts mainly,  but just dial has 3 lists or 
sources of number to dial.
Thay all have the SOS button on back and hot dial by pres-and-hold on the 10 
digit buttons.

I'm very happy with this model and decommissioned an iPhone for the simm out 
ofit.
Micro-simm, not nano.

Worth checkin on site about the Light sicne it might have  
clock/timer/alarm/stopwatch and the like.

Hth, RobH.


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Hi all.  I know this is a little off topic, but I'm wondering if anyone has
any information about the blind shell phone.  I know of someone who is
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RE: Old List Messages Reappeared

Evidently, server is not the issue with Comcast, Spectrum, and I have 
Windstream, so no duplicate there. Could be a Google Group glitch, you think? 

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I received them as well.  i am on Spectrum.

Andy]

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Subject: Old List Messages Reappeared

Hi Everyone,

When I looked at my email this morning I realized that a lot of old 
list messages had reappeared in my inbox. This happened around 3:09 through 
about 3:13 am, I guess eastern time. Did anyone else experience this, or was 
this a problem with Comcast or something of mine?

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Take care and stay safe!

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RE: activating MBraille on a new iPhone

I'm not sure of the current pricing, you can check that on the app store.
Be sure you check everything the description in the app store says and see if 
there is a button about in-app purchases at the end so you can read any details 
about options.

Third party keyboards are added by going to Settings, General, Keyboard, and at 
the top is a place that shows the number of keyboards, most people by default 
have 2, the standard onscreen keyboard and the emoji keyboard.
Double tap there and there will be an add keyboard button.
If you have an app installed that can function as an onscreen keyboard, double 
tap it.
Then, if you want the new keyboard to have full access to the system, you 
double tap on its name after you have added it, and turn on permissions, which 
gives you a warning that the developer may be able to see what you write




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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi how much does mbraille cost and how do you add it to the phone as a full 
keyboard?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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I'm copying Harri Pasanen the MBraille developer.

Do you have the full purchased copy of MBraille?

If so, did you restore your purchase under the menu when you do a three finger 
swipe up in the main MBraille screen?




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Hi.  I need help activating MBraille on my IPhone 13 mini.  It's been 
downloaded and I added the third party keyboard.  When I enter a text field the 
MBraille keyboard shows up, but when I double tap on it I get something about 
doing a long swipe to activate.  Nothing seems to work and I use this app quite 
often.  Could someone please give me simple step-by-step directions to activate 
it.  You can write me privately at 
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RE: [EXTERNAL] Has anyone activated a new iPhone to use eSIM instead of a physical SIM?

2021-10-18 Thread Brent Harding

Yes, that EID number, I think, is around 32 digits long or something like that. 
As a small tip, this is one of those occasions where I’d use the 3-finger tap 4 
times after flicking right on that about page to the EID to copy exactly what 
VO said to the clipboard. One can then either paste it in the box they need it 
in and then go back and delete the extra garbage that gets in, or paste it into 
notes or another edit area first. That command literally copies exactly what VO 
spoke, so that’s why I said there could be extra junk added with it that would 
need to get edited out, or the form will probably say the number isn’t valid.

 

From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Has anyone activated a new iPhone to use eSIM instead 
of a physical SIM?

 

hi ALAN,

Yes, I did this successfully. I did have cited help at the time, but there 
really wasn’t much about the process that made me concerned that I could not 
have done it. Originally, I had been told I needed to take a photograph of a QR 
code, but that did not prove necessary in this process that I was guided 
through. 

 

I did this by contacting Verizon phone support. I went to the My Verizon app, 
and in the lower right hand corner there was either a moor or a contact button. 
When I ultimately found the contact button, I access them through the schedule 
a return call. I did this on four occasions for variety of purposes, and each 
time I was called back within three minutes. The representatives were very 
helpful.

 

my only concern about doing this independently, was at one point I needed to 
enter a very long series of digits from the about page of Settings, and in my 
experience that can be somewhat tenuous relying on voiceover. At least for me.

 

The phone has been working great ever cents.

 

I hope this helps. Good luck. Keith

 

On Oct 18, 2021, at 2:12 AM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi List,

 

I realize the answer to my question might vary considerably depending on 
country of location and mobile service carrier. I’ve ordered a new iPhone 13 
Mini and since I have a Verizon Prepaid account, I was unable to specify 
Verizon as my carrier when ordering using the Apple Store app. The order would 
fail each time the app attempted to confirm my Verizon account so I had to 
select the option to purchase the phone for use on any carrier. Phones ordered 
in this way come with no SIM card. I understand from the email Apple sent me 
indicating my iPhone had shipped that I can use eSIM when activating it. I’m 
curious whether anyone on this list has gone the eSIM route when activating a 
new iPhone containing no physical SIM. If you have, I’d love to hear what the 
steps were to do and how your experience was.

 

I’ve been advised not to transfer my existing SIM from my SE 2020 to the 13 
Mini so I do have a new physical SIM which I got Verizon to mail me. I’ll use 
that if the eSIM activation doesn’t work.

 

Thanks in advance for any comments eSIM users can share.

 

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Re: Old List Messages Reappeared

2021-10-18 Thread Alex Stone

It’s strange, as it didn’t happen on any other google groups I’m on.

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McKay 
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Subject: Re: Old List Messages Reappeared

as did i this morning.  kind of freaked me out since i had deleted all of them 
and then this morning here they were back to haunt me.

On 10/18/2021 2:30 PM, br...@hostany.net wrote:

I thought it was something with the email server I use, as later last week, the 
hosting provider I use for my domain had an outage for a couple hours or so, 
and I thought it was queued mail finally coming through. However, I think it’s 
a different issue, as I got these old messages last night also.

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I received them as well.  i am on Spectrum.

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RE: Old List Messages Reappeared

2021-10-18 Thread 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone

And, I thought that finally, old age was catching up to me - LOL. 

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Thank you,

I thought I was dreaming when all these old messages showed up as unread.

Apparently GoogleGroups had a hiccup.

Richard

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Hi Everyone,

When I looked at my email this morning I realized that a lot of old list 
messages had reappeared in my inbox. This happened around 3:09 through about 
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hi ALAN,
Yes, I did this successfully. I did have cited help at the time, but there 
really wasn’t much about the process that made me concerned that I could not 
have done it. Originally, I had been told I needed to take a photograph of a QR 
code, but that did not prove necessary in this process that I was guided 
through.

I did this by contacting Verizon phone support. I went to the My Verizon app, 
and in the lower right hand corner there was either a moor or a contact button. 
When I ultimately found the contact button, I access them through the schedule 
a return call. I did this on four occasions for variety of purposes, and each 
time I was called back within three minutes. The representatives were very 
helpful.

my only concern about doing this independently, was at one point I needed to 
enter a very long series of digits from the about page of Settings, and in my 
experience that can be somewhat tenuous relying on voiceover. At least for me.

The phone has been working great ever cents.

I hope this helps. Good luck. Keith

On Oct 18, 2021, at 2:12 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Hi List,

I realize the answer to my question might vary considerably depending on 
country of location and mobile service carrier. I’ve ordered a new iPhone 13 
Mini and since I have a Verizon Prepaid account, I was unable to specify 
Verizon as my carrier when ordering using the Apple Store app. The order would 
fail each time the app attempted to confirm my Verizon account so I had to 
select the option to purchase the phone for use on any carrier. Phones ordered 
in this way come with no SIM card. I understand from the email Apple sent me 
indicating my iPhone had shipped that I can use eSIM when activating it. I’m 
curious whether anyone on this list has gone the eSIM route when activating a 
new iPhone containing no physical SIM. If you have, I’d love to hear what the 
steps were to do and how your experience was.

I’ve been advised not to transfer my existing SIM from my SE 2020 to the 13 
Mini so I do have a new physical SIM which I got Verizon to mail me. I’ll use 
that if the eSIM activation doesn’t work.

Thanks in advance for any comments eSIM users can share.

Alan Lemly

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RE: Old List Messages Reappeared

Yes. For some reason, I have a slew of them. 

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Re: Old List Messages Reappeared

2021-10-18 Thread Stewart McKay

as did i this morning. kind of freaked me out since i had deleted all
of them and then this morning here they were back to haunt me.

On 10/18/2021 2:30 PM, br...@hostany.net wrote:

I thought it was something with the email server I use, as later last
week, the hosting provider I use for my domain had an outage for a
couple hours or so, and I thought it was queued mail finally coming
through. However, I think it’s a different issue, as I got these old
messages last night also.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf
Of *Andy Baracco

*Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2021 1:24 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
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I received them as well. i am on Spectrum.

Andy]

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RE: Old List Messages Reappeared

2021-10-18 Thread brent

I thought it was something with the email server I use, as later last week, the 
hosting provider I use for my domain had an outage for a couple hours or so, 
and I thought it was queued mail finally coming through. However, I think it’s 
a different issue, as I got these old messages last night also.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Old List Messages Reappeared

 

I received them as well.  i am on Spectrum.

 

Andy]

 

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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 6:58 AM

Subject: Old List Messages Reappeared

 

Hi Everyone,

 

When I looked at my email this morning I realized that a lot of old list 
messages had reappeared in my inbox. This happened around 3:09 through about 
3:13 am, I guess eastern time. Did anyone else experience this, or was this a 
problem with Comcast or something of mine?

 

Thanks for any information.

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

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Re: Old List Messages Reappeared

2021-10-18 Thread Alex Stone

I doubt the isp makes any difference, I’m in the U.K.

Sent from my iPhone

On 18 Oct 2021, at 19:23, Andy Baracco  wrote:


I received them as well.  i am on Spectrum.

Andy]

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Re: Old List Messages Reappeared

2021-10-18 Thread Andy Baracco

I received them as well.  i am on Spectrum.

Andy]

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RE: Has anyone activated a new iPhone to use eSim instead of a physical SIM?

2021-10-18 Thread brent

I am on the Apple upgrade program. I used the Esim to activate my service 
transfer from the 12 to the 13. I am on Verizon also, but on a postpaid 
account. It’s working fine, but I kind of wish I could just have kept the 
physical sim, which is a lot easier to deal with in the event of repair issues, 
beta testing that goes bad, etc. I don’t think they offer Esim on the prepaid 
lines though, but I could be wrong on this.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Has anyone activated a new iPhone to use eSIM instead of a physical 
SIM?

 

Hi List,

 

I realize the answer to my question might vary considerably depending on 
country of location and mobile service carrier. I’ve ordered a new iPhone 13 
Mini and since I have a Verizon Prepaid account, I was unable to specify 
Verizon as my carrier when ordering using the Apple Store app. The order would 
fail each time the app attempted to confirm my Verizon account so I had to 
select the option to purchase the phone for use on any carrier. Phones ordered 
in this way come with no SIM card. I understand from the email Apple sent me 
indicating my iPhone had shipped that I can use eSIM when activating it. I’m 
curious whether anyone on this list has gone the eSIM route when activating a 
new iPhone containing no physical SIM. If you have, I’d love to hear what the 
steps were to do and how your experience was.

 

I’ve been advised not to transfer my existing SIM from my SE 2020 to the 13 
Mini so I do have a new physical SIM which I got Verizon to mail me. I’ll use 
that if the eSIM activation doesn’t work.

 

Thanks in advance for any comments eSIM users can share.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: activating MBraille on a new iPhone

2021-10-18 Thread Casey Wollner

Hi how much does mbraille cost and how do you add it to the phone as a full 
keyboard?

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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: activating MBraille on a new IPhone

I’m copying Harri Pasanen the MBraille developer.

Do you have the full purchased copy of MBraille?

If so, did you restore your purchase under the menu when you do a three finger 
swipe up in the main MBraille screen?

Richard
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Hi.  I need help activating MBraille on my IPhone 13 mini.  It’s been 
downloaded and I added the third party keyboard.  When I enter a text field the 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Jordan
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 7:36 AM
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Subject: activating MBraille on a new IPhone

Hi.  I need help activating MBraille on my IPhone 13 mini.  It's been 
downloaded and I added the third party keyboard.  When I enter a text field the 
MBraille keyboard shows up, but when I double tap on it I get something about 
doing a long swipe to activate.  Nothing seems to work and I use this app quite 
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God bless!
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RE: Apple Refund?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:17 AM
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Subject: Apple Refund?

Hi, Group.
I purchased an app other day which is not supported much by Voiceover. So I 
went to Apple Website and requested for refund. I did not delete that app yet. 
I got the email and was told that my refund was approved but the money was not 
credited back to my creditcard. This email I got four days ago and the money is 
not back yet, is it because I did not delete the app yet?
Thanks!

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Re: Apple Refund?

2021-10-18 Thread Joseph Hudson

I've done the same thing, and normally their credits are back in movie rentals. 
Not unless they change their policy.

> On Oct 18, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Group.
> I purchased an app other day which is not supported much by Voiceover. So I 
> went to Apple Website and requested for refund. I did not delete that app 
> yet. I got the email and was told that my refund was approved but the money 
> was not credited back to my creditcard. This email I got four days ago and 
> the money is not back yet, is it because I did not delete the app yet?
> Thanks!
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Apple Refund?

Hi, Group.

I purchased an app other day which is not supported much by Voiceover. So I
went to Apple Website and requested for refund. I did not delete that app
yet. I got the email and was told that my refund was approved but the money
was not credited back to my creditcard. This email I got four days ago and
the money is not back yet, is it because I did not delete the app yet?

Thanks!

 

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off topic: Blind shell phone

2021-10-18 Thread Paula Jordan

Hi all.  I know this is a little off topic, but I'm wondering if anyone has
any information about the blind shell phone.  I know of someone who is
looking for one for her dad who is not able to manage an iphone.  If you'd
like you can write me off list at pau...@roadrunner.com
 .  Thanks very much.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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