RE: Two Apple watches

2021-12-12 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Donna,

As I said I know the 2 watchs off one phone is possible,
It's the 2 watchs and 2 sepperate apple id accounts that have me confused.

I can see why from your info,

But with out trying it 
It's a difficult one.

Good luck I hope you find an answer 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Monday, 13 December 2021 6:55 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two Apple watches

Simon,

I have not called Apple accessibility, yet. I don't have a second phone to use 
so that they can walk me through the process if what I want to do is possible. 
I guess I'm going to have to call, take notes, hang up try the given advice & 
if the advice works, then great. If not, I'll just have to call Apple 
accessibility a 2nd time. Thanks anyway for your honesty & input.

Donna
   
> 
> HI Donna,
> 
> I'm not really going to try and answer this because it's way over my head.
> 
> But I do know you can have more than one watch on a single phone,
> 
> Or should that be paired with a phone,
> 
> But is this not something apples accessibility team can advise you on?
> 
> 
> 
> Good luck with what yu're trying to do!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Monday, 13 December 2021 12:26 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Two Apple watches
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing too 
> much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 
> 
> I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a 
> child's watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone 
> watch. The functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the 
> child's watch as a second watch for myself...
> 1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
> 2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
> 3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
> powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
> powered on, being used during the day doing life? 
> 
> We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
> speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
> difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on me. 
> The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is 
> threatening to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to a 
> keyboard on the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble 
> writing & entering his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help 
> him with use of the watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry for 
> the long message.
> 
> Donna
> 
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Re: Two Apple watches

2021-12-12 Thread Donna Casteen
Simon,

I have not called Apple accessibility, yet. I don't have a second phone to use 
so that they can walk me through the process if what I want to do is possible. 
I guess I'm going to have to call, take notes, hang up try the given advice & 
if the advice works, then great. If not, I'll just have to call Apple 
accessibility a 2nd time. Thanks anyway for your honesty & input.

Donna
   
> 
> HI Donna,
> 
> I'm not really going to try and answer this because it's way over my head.
> 
> But I do know you can have more than one watch on a single phone,
> 
> Or should that be paired with a phone,
> 
> But is this not something apples accessibility team can advise you on?
> 
> 
> 
> Good luck with what yu're trying to do!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Monday, 13 December 2021 12:26 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Two Apple watches
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing too 
> much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 
> 
> I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a 
> child's watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone 
> watch. The functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the 
> child's watch as a second watch for myself...
> 1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
> 2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
> 3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
> powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
> powered on, being used during the day doing life? 
> 
> We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
> speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
> difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on me. 
> The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is 
> threatening to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to a 
> keyboard on the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble 
> writing & entering his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help 
> him with use of the watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry for 
> the long message.
> 
> Donna
> 
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Re: Spatial Audio with AirPods, Not So Much

2021-12-12 Thread Richard Turner


Spatial audio is not intended for mono playback at all.
There is nothing spatial about a person reading a book.
When you listen to something where the direction of the sound makes a 
difference, you may find it adds a lot of depth to the experience; but then 
again you might not.
But certainly evaluating spatial audio based on an audio book is somewhat 
pointless.



Richard

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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 12, 2021, at 8:03 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Hey Mark I wouldn’t do this with audiobooks at all I would do this with 
> music that supports spacial audio and also the Dolby Atmos surround sound 
> type of movies that support it as well but never audiobooks I tried it too 
> and I hated it you’re not alone with regards to the whole spatial audio thing 
> in regards to audiobooks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2021, at 2:30 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> So, in order to pair my new Apple watch series 7 to my beloved 8 Plus, I had
>> to update from iOS 14.8 to iOS 15.1.  I did this on Friday.
>> 
>> Today, while listening to an audiobook on Over Drive via my wired EarPods, I
>> decided to take my AirPods Pro for a spin, for the first time, with the
>> latest OS.
>> 
>> Well, as soon as I resumed the Over Drive audio playback via AirPods Pro, I
>> noticed a tremendously different type of sound coming through AirPods.  It
>> only took me a moment to realize that this must be the new Spatial audio
>> feature that I have been reading about.
>> 
>> I listened for about 10 minutes or so, then enabled the head-tracking
>> feature to see how it sounded; not bad, accept... 
>> 
>> I disabled the spatial audio feature after about 15 minutes of listening.
>> 
>> I don't know, there was something about it that I just didn't like, with
>> regard to audiobook playback, anyway.
>> 
>> I might like it when I watch a movie on my Apple TV or my iPad; perhaps the
>> visual input in combination with spatial audio will make the experience seem
>> less jarring, somehow, I don't know.
>> 
>> For now, however, I think I will continue to use the stereo, only, playback
>> option when listening to audiobooks.
>> 
>> Just thought I would share my first listening experience with spatial audio.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: Two Apple watches

2021-12-12 Thread Simon A Fogarty
HI Donna,

I'm not really going to try and answer this because it's way over my head.

But I do know you can have more than one watch on a single phone,

Or should that be paired with a phone,

 But is this not something apples accessibility team can advise you on?



Good luck with what yu're trying to do!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Monday, 13 December 2021 12:26 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two Apple watches

Hi All,

I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing too 
much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 

I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a child's 
watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone watch. The 
functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the child's watch 
as a second watch for myself...
1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
powered on, being used during the day doing life? 

We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on me. 
The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is threatening 
to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to a keyboard on 
the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble writing & entering 
his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help him with use of the 
watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry for the long message.

Donna
 

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Re: Spatial Audio with AirPods, Not So Much

2021-12-12 Thread CHELA Robles
Hey Mark I wouldn’t do this with audiobooks at all I would do this with music 
that supports spacial audio and also the Dolby Atmos surround sound type of 
movies that support it as well but never audiobooks I tried it too and I hated 
it you’re not alone with regards to the whole spatial audio thing in regards to 
audiobooks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2021, at 2:30 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> So, in order to pair my new Apple watch series 7 to my beloved 8 Plus, I had
> to update from iOS 14.8 to iOS 15.1.  I did this on Friday.
> 
> Today, while listening to an audiobook on Over Drive via my wired EarPods, I
> decided to take my AirPods Pro for a spin, for the first time, with the
> latest OS.
> 
> Well, as soon as I resumed the Over Drive audio playback via AirPods Pro, I
> noticed a tremendously different type of sound coming through AirPods.  It
> only took me a moment to realize that this must be the new Spatial audio
> feature that I have been reading about.
> 
> I listened for about 10 minutes or so, then enabled the head-tracking
> feature to see how it sounded; not bad, accept... 
> 
> I disabled the spatial audio feature after about 15 minutes of listening.
> 
> I don't know, there was something about it that I just didn't like, with
> regard to audiobook playback, anyway.
> 
> I might like it when I watch a movie on my Apple TV or my iPad; perhaps the
> visual input in combination with spatial audio will make the experience seem
> less jarring, somehow, I don't know.
> 
> For now, however, I think I will continue to use the stereo, only, playback
> option when listening to audiobooks.
> 
> Just thought I would share my first listening experience with spatial audio.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Two Apple watches

2021-12-12 Thread Donna Casteen
> Anna,

The article that you shared is how the child's phone is paired currently. With 
the watch paired this way functionality is limited. I need two cellular watches 
to be able to be paired as though both phones are mine, but each watch be 
logged into different apple ID's. And for each watch to be able to be used at 
the same time.

Donna
> Hi,
> 
> There is a feature called Family setup that, according to Apple, "lets family 
> members who don't have their own iPhone enjoy the features and benefits of an 
> Apple Watch." To learn more, go to
> 
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211768
> 
> 
> I hope Family setup does what you need.
> 
> All the best,
> Anna
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2021, at 6:26 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna, as far as I know, the Apple Watch does not have its own Apple ID. 
>> It Hass to be paired with a iOS device to my knowledge, and a user is the 
>> Apple ID of the iOS device. Somebody else will have to help you answer those 
>> other questions. As I don't have one of these watches. I just know from 
>> running a few list concerning the Apple Watch.
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing 
>>> too much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 
>>> 
>>> I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a 
>>> child's watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone 
>>> watch. The functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the 
>>> child's watch as a second watch for myself...
>>> 1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
>>> 2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
>>> 3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
>>> powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
>>> powered on, being used during the day doing life? 
>>> 
>>> We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
>>> speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
>>> difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on 
>>> me. The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is 
>>> threatening to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to 
>>> a keyboard on the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble 
>>> writing & entering his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help 
>>> him with use of the watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry 
>>> for the long message.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: Two Apple watches

2021-12-12 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

There is a feature called Family setup that, according to Apple, "lets family 
members who don't have their own iPhone enjoy the features and benefits of an 
Apple Watch." To learn more, go to

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211768


I hope Family setup does what you need.

All the best,
Anna

> On Dec 12, 2021, at 6:26 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna, as far as I know, the Apple Watch does not have its own Apple ID. 
> It Hass to be paired with a iOS device to my knowledge, and a user is the 
> Apple ID of the iOS device. Somebody else will have to help you answer those 
> other questions. As I don't have one of these watches. I just know from 
> running a few list concerning the Apple Watch.
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing too 
>> much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 
>> 
>> I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a 
>> child's watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone 
>> watch. The functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the 
>> child's watch as a second watch for myself...
>> 1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
>> 2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
>> 3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
>> powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
>> powered on, being used during the day doing life? 
>> 
>> We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
>> speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
>> difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on 
>> me. The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is 
>> threatening to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to 
>> a keyboard on the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble 
>> writing & entering his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help 
>> him with use of the watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry for 
>> the long message.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
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odd behavior concerning lock orientation

2021-12-12 Thread Paula Jordan
Hi all. I have recently noticed that when I disconnect a phone call, my
orientation goes to landscape mode. I've checked in my control center and
lock orientation is on. I have to lock the phone and then unlock it and all
seems to work as expected again.  Is anyone else seeing this? I shut down my
phone and haven't had a phone call since, so I don't know if that made any
difference. Very odd! Wondering if I've set something differently without
realizing it.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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Re: Two Apple watches

2021-12-12 Thread joseph hudson
Hi Donna, as far as I know, the Apple Watch does not have its own Apple ID. It 
Hass to be paired with a iOS device to my knowledge, and a user is the Apple ID 
of the iOS device. Somebody else will have to help you answer those other 
questions. As I don't have one of these watches. I just know from running a few 
list concerning the Apple Watch.

> On Dec 12, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing too 
> much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 
> 
> I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a 
> child's watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone 
> watch. The functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the 
> child's watch as a second watch for myself...
> 1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
> 2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
> 3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
> powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
> powered on, being used during the day doing life? 
> 
> We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
> speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
> difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on me. 
> The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is 
> threatening to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to a 
> keyboard on the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble 
> writing & entering his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help 
> him with use of the watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry for 
> the long message.
> 
> Donna
> 
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Two Apple watches

2021-12-12 Thread Donna Casteen
Hi All,

I'm going to try to explain what I want to be able to do without causing too 
much confusion, in doing so, hopefully I'll get an answer. 

I have two watches. Both watches are cellular, One is mine the second a child's 
watch. Currently the child's watch is being used as a stand alone watch. The 
functionality for ease of use is limited. If I were to pair the child's watch 
as a second watch for myself...
1. Can the child's watch have its own apple ID?
2. Can the parental controls be setup for the watch?
3. Can both watches be used at the same time? Another words both watches 
powered on, the child wearing their watch & using it while at school & mine 
powered on, being used during the day doing life? 

We need ease of use on the child watch. My son is visually impaired & has a 
speech problem, so using Siri is difficult, especially even more so the 
difficulty in fixing dictated message mistakes. The real problem falls on me. 
The scribble to write & I are at odds with each other. The watch is threatening 
to file for violence protection! LOL! My son & I need access to a keyboard on 
the watch, but both of us are having trouble with scribble writing & entering 
his password in the app store. A keyboard will also help him with use of the 
watch features which a keyboard is used. Help! Sorry for the long message.

Donna
 

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RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

2021-12-12 Thread Dennis Long
Richard there is no message.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7





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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 6:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

Does voice over disturb unnecessarily when even we dont need to know or listen 
what the time is?

On 12/12/21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> Well I’m glad you like your Apple Watch. I like my Apple Watch first 
> generation and I will keep using it as long as the software is able to 
> support the hardware and until that day comes where it doesn’t then I 
> will get the next one but that will be a long time coming I’m sure. I 
> just like it because it really fits me my arms and wrists are kind of 
> small so I like the flexibility of that and the fact that I can use a 
> Melanese loop with the series 5.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 11, 2021, at 9:49 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> As you begin to wash your hands, you will hear VoiceOver begin 
>> counting down from 20 to 0.  When it reaches zero, you will get hap 
>> tic feedback on the watch and the countdown is done.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>
>> What does this mode do? Mean do you receive any kind of allert or 
>> vibration while washing hands?
>>
>>> On 12/12/21, Arlene  wrote:
>>> Kay, that is so cute. I too use to think there were people in the 
>>> radio too.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Kay Malmquist" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 11:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>>
>>>
>>> You laugh about the little man in the watch.  When I was really 
>>> young my mom tells me that I got out a screw driver and proceeded to 
>>> take apart a radio that they had and when she asked me why, I told 
>>> her that I was looking for the little people in there.
>>>
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they 
>>> can be great in whatever they want to do.
>>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Richard Turner" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:57 AM
>>> Subject: RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>>
>>>
>>> The little guy that lives in the watch can see what your doing ??.
>>>
>>> Another answer, it is magic.
>>>
>>> The real answer is it uses the sensors in the watch to detect a 
>>> specific pattern.  Likely it will get some false positives; like 
>>> when it thought I had fallen when I was tossing laundry into the dryer
>>>
>>> Later,
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow 
>>> is exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only 
>>> different kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
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>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=8B%2F%2BBOxmUejE71sIb3sdT5nb
>>> 5q5UnZYA%2BnKPociKnPk%3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Kay Malmquist
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 7:57 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>>
>>> Well, see what happens when I don't open an app to see how it works?
>>> I'll have to check it out.  How does it know you are washing your 
>>> hands and not just using water for something else?
>>>
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they 
>>> can be great in whatever they want to do.
>>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "lenron brown" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>>
>>>
>>> you don't find it. you turn it on and when it detects you are 
>>> washing your hands it counts down
>>>
 On 12/11/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
 So, I need some input with this app.  Usually, when you want to 
 wash your hands, they are dirty.  Dirt from playing i

Spatial Audio with AirPods, Not So Much

2021-12-12 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All,

So, in order to pair my new Apple watch series 7 to my beloved 8 Plus, I had
to update from iOS 14.8 to iOS 15.1.  I did this on Friday.

Today, while listening to an audiobook on Over Drive via my wired EarPods, I
decided to take my AirPods Pro for a spin, for the first time, with the
latest OS.

Well, as soon as I resumed the Over Drive audio playback via AirPods Pro, I
noticed a tremendously different type of sound coming through AirPods.  It
only took me a moment to realize that this must be the new Spatial audio
feature that I have been reading about.

I listened for about 10 minutes or so, then enabled the head-tracking
feature to see how it sounded; not bad, accept... 

I disabled the spatial audio feature after about 15 minutes of listening.

I don't know, there was something about it that I just didn't like, with
regard to audiobook playback, anyway.

I might like it when I watch a movie on my Apple TV or my iPad; perhaps the
visual input in combination with spatial audio will make the experience seem
less jarring, somehow, I don't know.

For now, however, I think I will continue to use the stereo, only, playback
option when listening to audiobooks.

Just thought I would share my first listening experience with spatial audio.

Mark


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RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

2021-12-12 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hey mines a little lady,



-Original Message-
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chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 12 December 2021 7:24 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

That'S cute. I use to think there was a little man in the radio as well.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: December 11, 2021 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

You laugh about the little man in the watch.  When I was really young my mom 
tells me that I got out a screw driver and proceeded to take apart a radio that 
they had and when she asked me why, I told her that I was looking for the 
little people in there.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be great 
in whatever they want to do.
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- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7


The little guy that lives in the watch can see what your doing ??.

Another answer, it is magic.

The real answer is it uses the sensors in the watch to detect a specific 
pattern.  Likely it will get some false positives; like when it thought I 
had fallen when I was tossing laundry into the dryer

Later,


Richard
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exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

Well, see what happens when I don't open an app to see how it works?  I'll 
have to check it out.  How does it know you are washing your hands and not 
just using water for something else?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be 
great in whatever they want to do.
Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player


- Original Message - 
From: "lenron brown" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7


you don't find it. you turn it on and when it detects you are washing
your hands it counts down

On 12/11/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> So, I need some input with this app.  Usually, when you want to wash your
> hands, they are dirty.  Dirt from playing in the garden, food from mixing
> a
>
> meatloaf and so on.  Did you put the handwashing feature in one of your
> watch faces? Or do you wander through your apps until you find it, and
> then
>
> at that point what needs a bath more, you or your watch.  I guess the
> point
>
> of this is, What is the easiest way to find this app?
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can be
> great in whatever they want to do.
> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 12:07 AM
> Subject: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> Today, I purchased an Apple watch series 7, cellular.My previous watch
> was the series 4 so this is kind of a big upgrade.
>
> I was delighted that I was able to setup my series 7 from a backup of my
> series 4.  As a result, virtually all of my settings were transferred to
> the
> new watch.
>
> So, I decided to give this new hand-washing timer a try.  I have to admit,
> it is kind of fun.
>
> I have always considered myself to be a rather thorough hand washer but,
> as
> of my new purchase, I find that I need to work a little harder to get the
> job done right (smile).
>
> Anyway, the hand-washing detection / timer feature is most definitely my
> first new favorite feature of Apple watch series 7.
>
> What a wonderful tool to have onboard.  Bravo, Apple.
>
> Mark
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Re: iOS 15.1.

2021-12-12 Thread Jenny Bomareto
I just went into settings and hit it thank you. For the explanation after 
listening to it it does seem pretty self-explanatory like you said. Thank you 
again.

Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jenny,
> 
> I have mine on hide. I think what this is for is when you go to web sites and 
> send email from them that it hides your email address. I don’t have a perfect 
> understanding of this either, but it is mainly for privacy. If you do hide 
> it, your private contacts will still see it is from you and your email 
> address will show up. Hope this helps.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>>> On Dec 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jenny Bomareto 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> Was I supposed to protect the mail or unprotected right now I have it not 
>> protected.
>> 
>> Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
>> Jenny Bomareto
>> 
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Thanks to Richard Turner

2021-12-12 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe
I just want all to know that Richard Turner has done a great job helping me
to get straightened out with my talking clock. Since I upgraded to IOS 15.1,
I lost the ability to listen to the time every 15 minutes.  I know that is
too much for many but, it is a huge benefit for me.  Because of Richard, he
suggested an app along with all the settings needed to run this smoothly.
Thank you Richard for all you do for all of us here on the email list.  Andy
and Leroy

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Re: iOS 15.1.

2021-12-12 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi Jenny,

I have mine on hide. I think what this is for is when you go to web sites and 
send email from them that it hides your email address. I don’t have a perfect 
understanding of this either, but it is mainly for privacy. If you do hide it, 
your private contacts will still see it is from you and your email address will 
show up. Hope this helps.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jenny Bomareto 
>  wrote:
> 
> Was I supposed to protect the mail or unprotected right now I have it not 
> protected.
> 
> Thanks for your assistance regarding this matter.
> Jenny Bomareto
> 
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RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

2021-12-12 Thread Richard Turner





Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 6:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

Does voice over disturb unnecessarily when even we dont need to know or listen 
what the time is?

On 12/12/21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> Well I’m glad you like your Apple Watch. I like my Apple Watch first 
> generation and I will keep using it as long as the software is able to 
> support the hardware and until that day comes where it doesn’t then I 
> will get the next one but that will be a long time coming I’m sure. I 
> just like it because it really fits me my arms and wrists are kind of 
> small so I like the flexibility of that and the fact that I can use a 
> Melanese loop with the series 5.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 11, 2021, at 9:49 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> As you begin to wash your hands, you will hear VoiceOver begin 
>> counting down from 20 to 0.  When it reaches zero, you will get hap 
>> tic feedback on the watch and the countdown is done.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>
>> What does this mode do? Mean do you receive any kind of allert or 
>> vibration while washing hands?
>>
>>> On 12/12/21, Arlene  wrote:
>>> Kay, that is so cute. I too use to think there were people in the 
>>> radio too.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Kay Malmquist" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 11:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>>
>>>
>>> You laugh about the little man in the watch.  When I was really 
>>> young my mom tells me that I got out a screw driver and proceeded to 
>>> take apart a radio that they had and when she asked me why, I told 
>>> her that I was looking for the little people in there.
>>>
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they 
>>> can be great in whatever they want to do.
>>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Richard Turner" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:57 AM
>>> Subject: RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>>
>>>
>>> The little guy that lives in the watch can see what your doing ??.
>>>
>>> Another answer, it is magic.
>>>
>>> The real answer is it uses the sensors in the watch to detect a 
>>> specific pattern.  Likely it will get some false positives; like 
>>> when it thought I had fallen when I was tossing laundry into the dryer
>>>
>>> Later,
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow 
>>> is exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only 
>>> different kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>>> .turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3f0ea10bf0f1406043e208d9bd799
>>> 1e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637749152107549233%
>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=8B%2F%2BBOxmUejE71sIb3sdT5nb
>>> 5q5UnZYA%2BnKPociKnPk%3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Kay Malmquist
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 7:57 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>>
>>> Well, see what happens when I don't open an app to see how it works?
>>> I'll have to check it out.  How does it know you are washing your 
>>> hands and not just using water for something else?
>>>
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they 
>>> can be great in whatever they want to do.
>>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "lenron brown" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>>
>>>
>>> you don't find it. you turn it on and when it detects you are 
>>> washing your hands it counts down
>>>
 On 12/11/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
 So, I need some input with this app.  Usually, when you want to 
 wash your hands, they are dirty.  Dirt from playing in the garden, 
 food from mixing a

 meatloaf and so on.  Did you put the handwashing feature in one of 
 your watch faces? Or do you wander through your apps until you find 
 it, and then

 at that point what needs a bath

Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7

2021-12-12 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
Does voice over disturb unnecessarily when even we dont need to know
or listen what the time is?

On 12/12/21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> Well I’m glad you like your Apple Watch. I like my Apple Watch first
> generation and I will keep using it as long as the software is able to
> support the hardware and until that day comes where it doesn’t then I will
> get the next one but that will be a long time coming I’m sure. I just like
> it because it really fits me my arms and wrists are kind of small so I like
> the flexibility of that and the fact that I can use a Melanese loop with the
> series 5.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 11, 2021, at 9:49 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> As you begin to wash your hands, you will hear VoiceOver begin counting
>> down from 20 to 0.  When it reaches zero, you will get hap tic feedback on
>> the watch and the countdown is done.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mohib Anwar Rafay
>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>
>> What does this mode do? Mean do you receive any kind of allert or
>> vibration while washing hands?
>>
>>> On 12/12/21, Arlene  wrote:
>>> Kay, that is so cute. I too use to think there were people in the
>>> radio too.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Kay Malmquist" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 11:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>>
>>>
>>> You laugh about the little man in the watch.  When I was really young
>>> my mom tells me that I got out a screw driver and proceeded to take
>>> apart a radio that they had and when she asked me why, I told her that
>>> I was looking for the little people in there.
>>>
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can
>>> be great in whatever they want to do.
>>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Richard Turner" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:57 AM
>>> Subject: RE: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>>
>>>
>>> The little guy that lives in the watch can see what your doing ??.
>>>
>>> Another answer, it is magic.
>>>
>>> The real answer is it uses the sensors in the watch to detect a
>>> specific pattern.  Likely it will get some false positives; like when
>>> it thought I had fallen when I was tossing laundry into the dryer
>>>
>>> Later,
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is
>>> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only
>>> different kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>>>
>>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 7:57 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>>
>>> Well, see what happens when I don't open an app to see how it works?
>>> I'll have to check it out.  How does it know you are washing your
>>> hands and not just using water for something else?
>>>
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they can
>>> be great in whatever they want to do.
>>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "lenron brown" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7
>>>
>>>
>>> you don't find it. you turn it on and when it detects you are washing
>>> your hands it counts down
>>>
 On 12/11/21, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
 So, I need some input with this app.  Usually, when you want to wash
 your hands, they are dirty.  Dirt from playing in the garden, food
 from mixing a

 meatloaf and so on.  Did you put the handwashing feature in one of
 your watch faces? Or do you wander through your apps until you find
 it, and then

 at that point what needs a bath more, you or your watch.  I guess the
 point

 of this is, What is the easiest way to find this app?

 Kay Malmquist
 kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

 The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they
 can be great in whatever they want to do.
 Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player


 - Original Message -
 From: "M. Taylor" 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 12:07 AM
 Subject: My First Favorite Feature of Apple Watch Series 7


 Hello All,

 Today, I purchased an Apple watch series 7, cellular.My previous
 watch
 was the series 4 so this is kind of a big upgrade.

 I was delighted t