VO accessibility with dynamic island

[Harshit Jaithwar]

Hi friends, I want to know anybody has experienced or heard anything about  the 
accessibility of VO with dynamic island in the pro models of iPhone 14?
Thank you!

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iphone app to check blood pressure

[Maria Heinrichs]

I'd personally prefer the app for reasons I put in the list lol.

Maria

On 9/15/2022 7:59 PM, la...@comcast.net wrote:

An app? Whatever happened to medical privacy?


- Original Message -
From: Maria Heinrichs 
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2022 06:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com;Louise Peyton 
Subject: Re: iphone app to check blood pressure


Are you kidding me I'd love that! Seriously I'd love that! Have you ever
experienced a blood pressure cuff that squeezed again before it had even
completely let up because there was an error like you had it too low on
your arm or something? That's happened to me numerous times, but the
last time it did that, it squeezed so hard and it seemed to take a long
time before it stopped, and I don't think it's considered claustrophobia
because when you're claustrophobic, you feel scared in a confined space,
but I felt like I would never get my arm out ever again. I got so scared
my mom had to come over and press on the power button I guess it is, so
the air would go out and the cuff would let up. If there would be an
app, that would be fantastic! Please, let me know! Thanks.
Maria On 9/15/2022 6:43 PM, Louise Peyton wrote:

Hello, all:

Is there an app I can use with an IPhone that would help check blood
pressure.  I found two talking blood pressure machines which were not
as accurate as my primary care doctor's whose monitor doesn't speak
audibly. This is quite frustrating since my blood pressure can fluctuate.

The other question is would I need to purchase an Apple watch or just
use some type of app strictly with the phone?  Thanks in advance.

Louise

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Re: How useful to blind users is the Lidar sensor?

[Cris Ali]

Thanks a bundle Richard. I guess I will just go ahead and order the 14 Pro.
Cheers,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Here is an article from How To Geek prior to the release of the iPhone 12 
> Pro and Pro max, the first models to have LIDAR.
> 
> What Is LiDAR?
> A LiDAR scanner determines the distance between itself and an object by 
> monitoring how long it takes a pulse of light (often a laser) to bounce back. 
> It’s like radar, except instead of radio waves, it uses infrared light.
> 
> While radar is designed to be used across great distances, LiDAR works on a 
> smaller scale, due to the way light is absorbed by objects in its path. By 
> sending hundreds of thousands of light pulses every second, LiDAR scanners 
> can work out distances and object sizes with relative accuracy over small 
> distances.
> 
> A living room with furniture outlined by dots, showing what the iPhone LIDAR 
> scanner sees.
> 
> This data can then be used to construct 3D models, which is one of the main 
> uses for LiDAR in construction and engineering projects. You’ve likely heard 
> of 3D laser scans being used to draw up building plans—that’s LiDAR.
> 
> LiDAR actually has many uses across many industries. Archaeologists use it to 
> prepare dig sites and autonomous vehicles rely on it to construct real-time 
> 3D maps of their surroundings. LiDAR has even been used to create highly 
> realistic and accurate maps of race tracks in video games, like Project CARS. 
> Police speed guns also use LiDAR.
> 
> And now, just like the iPad Pro in March 2020, a LiDAR scanner has come to 
> Apple’s premium iPhone 12 Pro.
> 
> How the iPhone 12 Pro Uses LiDAR
> Apple uses LiDAR a bit differently than a construction site or speed gun. 
> It’s the same basic principle—bouncing light to determine distance—but on a 
> smaller scale. The LiDAR scanner in the iPhone 12 Pro (and iPad Pro) has an 
> effective range of around 16 feet (5 meters).
> 
> The primary purpose of LiDAR in the iPhone is to improve augmented reality 
> (AR) implementation. It will give apps more useful and accurate information 
> about their surroundings, for smoother, more reliable AR.
> 
> If you’re unfamiliar with the technology, AR allows developers to fuse 
> virtual objects and the real world. It uses your device’s camera and allows 
> you to play games, apply interactive filters (like those on Snapchat), or 
> preview the placement of furniture and other objects.
> 
> Pokémon Go is one example of a successful AR game that allows you to capture 
> virtual creatures in the real world. With Ikea’s wildly successful Place app, 
> you can see how most of the company’s catalog would look in your home.
> 
> LEGO is one of many companies that has also launched stand-alone products (in 
> this case, building sets) that can “come alive” via AR features when you have 
> a compatible smartphone.
> 
> While LiDAR is often used to scan buildings and other objects, the scanner on 
> the iPhone 12 Pro and iPad Pro isn’t accurate enough to scan objects 
> precisely. Sebastiaan de With, who developed the popular iPhone camera app 
> Halide, discovered this while building a proof of concept called Esper.
> 
> “Unfortunately, the mesh output by the system right now isn’t accurate enough 
> to send to a 3D printer,” de With wrote on the Halide website. “But it’s a 
> great starting point for a 3D model, since all the proportions will be very 
> accurate.”
> 
> In reality, LiDAR scanners are likely to improve on two main things: virtual 
> object placement (like shopping apps) and AR gaming. These are already 
> possible on non-LiDAR iPhones, but it adds an extra layer of accuracy to 
> things like dimensions and the precise distance to an object in a room.
> 
> You can also expect a more seamless AR experience, particularly when placing 
> virtual items in the real world. For example, the iPhone 12 Pro should be 
> better able to identify real-world items in the foreground. This should make 
> for more realistic interactions between virtual and real objects.
> 
> Virtual toys, characters, and scenery in a living room AR Experience on iPad 
> Pro.
> 
> Apple also intends to use LiDAR to improve camera performance in low light. 
> It’s implemented “focus pixels” in the iPhone XS, which is the company’s 
> brand of phase-detect autofocus (PDAF). This technology still depends on 
> light, which is why even the latest autofocus advancements don’t work all 
> that well in the dark.
> 
> By sensing the distance between your iPhone and the subject you’re taking a 
> picture of, Apple can tell the camera at what distance it should focus to get 
> the best results. This should make it much easier to take better photos with 
> your iPhone in the dark, especially when combined with Night mode.
> 
> Will LiDAR Become a Big Deal?
> Presently, only two Apple devices have a sensor. Both are also priced at a 
> premium and feature the “Pro” 

RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

More or less the same sentiments here. I will add that they do offer titles 
that are pretty obscure and that you’re not likely to find in recorded format 
anywhere else. The app itself had gotten better, but it’s in general just meh… 
I too would not pay for the service now, but being grandfathered in, I do still 
use it from time to time.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

At the risk of going too deep into thread creep, I would only use Learning Ally 
as a very last resort because their readers are poor to terrible  for the most 
part.  IN college, 50 years ago, I had to use them exclusively for audio books 
because in the day, they were the only source for text books.  I was reading a 
book for my Freshman Fiction class, Sons and Lovers by D. H. Lawrence.  The 
book started out with a fabulous British reader!  I swear, in mid paragraph, 
but it was probably at a page break, a woman with a very, very strong southern 
US accent took over.  I had to jump up and stop the player, which BTW was a 
real-to-real player and calm my outrage.  I won’t repeat what I likely said …

 

There were at least 6 other readers before finishing the book.  

But, without them, I would not have been able to get through college, so I am 
grateful.  I am also grateful they Grandfathered those of us into the Learning 
Ally from Recordings for the Blind because I absolutely wouldn’t pay for the 
service even if that was the only source for a book.  I’d scan the book myself 
first.

 

OK, back to focusing on BARD, 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Matthew Bullis
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

I only use Learning Ally when I can't find something somewhere else. There app 
is terrible. It doesn’t use the magic tap to start and stop playback, you can't 
increase the speed without going into several screen levels deep, and the thing 
that's the search says magnifying glass. It's definitely usable and accessible, 
but not efficient or nice.

Matthew

 


On Sep 16, 2022, at 8:27 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Definitely all good things. I sure wish Learning Ally hadn't redone it's web 
site when they were no longer Recordings for the Blind, and made getting boks 
so arduous. I rarely use them anymore. Are they up to date on thelatest texts 
books, etc? Is anyone here still enjoying their many offereings?

   Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

I particularly like the idea of being able to download directly from the search 
results.  Sometimes, I want to download a book immediately, not put it on the 
wish list and then download it.

The improved search results will also be welcome.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com  
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

   BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do already but 
some of the added flexibility is  nice.

 

   Deidre

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

>From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is not 
>available yet.

The email below is from BARD Support.

 

Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0

We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD Mobile for 
iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced by a new and powerful 
search engine that has the following abilities:

"  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.

"  Search for either braille or audio content.

"  Use the Keyword search to search for 

Re: My update woe for today.

[Lisa Belville]

Carolyn, I don't use hearing aids, but I've had this issue with VO being 
at a very low volume during a phone call.  What I've started doing is 
pressing the side button three times to turn VO off once the call is 
picked up at the other end, and then immediately press it three times to 
restart VO.  Usually VO will come back on at whatever volume I had it 
set to when I made the phone call.  It's faster than trying to find the 
rotor and not being able to hear VO.



Hope this helps.


Lisa



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missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/16/2022 6:06 PM, Carolyn wrote:

I don't know anything to do in settings about it. I will try the rotor, but 
anything in the past I've tried, even while phone ringing, only turns up the 
volume for the phone call, and of course, some with the screen, but I can't 
hear it for the phone call. This problem has been discussed on the Blind 
Hearing Aid Users' List; I am not the only person having the problem.

I just called our time and temperature, but I could not hear the rotor so that 
I could get volume up. It is clearly a problem, but if there is a way I can fix 
it, I'd be glad to. I might give Apple Accessibility a call on it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Caroline, that is of course a good thing, but if this is because a setting on 
your phone it is nothing to be addressed by Apple because then it is not a bug 
but because of something on your phone.
Unless several others can confirm that this is an issue it may not be a bug.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone.

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft.

Thanks, got headphones set.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi,
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:





I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better.



So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back.



She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it.

  

Re: Startup/Shutdown sounds

[Richard Turner]

They are only for the new iPhone 14. Perhaps only the pro models, so if you 
have a new 14 pro, it will be in settings.
Where exactly I have no idea.





Richard
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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> On Sep 16, 2022, at 4:13 PM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
> 
> I haven't noticed any startup or shut down sounds, do I need to configure 
> that in settings?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 7:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Startup/Shutdown sounds
> 
> Good for Apple, and so, Microsoft could give them back to us, you think? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 4:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Startup/Shutdown sounds
> 
> Kudos to Apple for the implementation of the startup and shutdown sounds.  I 
> was skeptical as to how they were going to implement this ..  in my mind they 
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RE: Startup/Shutdown sounds

[Noe Villeda]

I haven't noticed any startup or shut down sounds, do I need to configure that 
in settings?


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Subject: RE: Startup/Shutdown sounds

Good for Apple, and so, Microsoft could give them back to us, you think? 

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Kudos to Apple for the implementation of the startup and shutdown sounds.  I 
was skeptical as to how they were going to implement this ..  in my mind they 
did it right!

 

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RE: Startup/Shutdown sounds

[Carolyn]

Good for Apple, and so, Microsoft could give them back to us, you think? 

-Original Message-
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Peter Logan
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Startup/Shutdown sounds

Kudos to Apple for the implementation of the startup and shutdown sounds.  I 
was skeptical as to how they were going to implement this ..  in my mind they 
did it right!

 

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RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[Carolyn]

Who would want to buy an 8? This is its last year to live, as far as getting 
updates. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

I agree.  I would very much like to have my bard books be able to transfer from 
my iPhone 8 to my iPhone 13 pro max.  The only reason why I'm keeping my iPhone 
8 is because of all the bard books on it.
Once I can get my bard books moved to my newer phone, I'll see if I can sell my 
iPhone 8.  However, who knows how long it will be before we can get our bard 
books on different devices.  I'm glad we are getting bard mobile 2.0.  This 
seems like a step in the wright direction.

On 9/16/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> My apologies, the email address to write them with any 
> suggestions/comments/questions did not copy.
>
> Write to nlsdownl...@loc.gov 
>
>
>
> Anyone with that wish should write them.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>
>
>
> My web site:   https://www.turner42.com
>
> 礪
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Star Gazer
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
>
>
>
> This 
> is wonderful. Onto my question though, when will we be able to 
> transfer content between devices, say upgrading from one phone to another?
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of deidreandlou...@gmail.com 
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
>
>
>
>BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do 
> already but some of the added flexibility is  nice.
>
>
>
>Deidre
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
>
>
>
> From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is 
> not available yet.
>
> The email below is from BARD Support.
>
>
>
> Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0
>
> We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD 
> Mobile for iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced 
> by a new and powerful search engine that has the following abilities:
>
> "  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.
>
> "  Search for either braille or audio content.
>
> "  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.
>
> "  Search for items in the Music collection, including music
> appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.
>
> "  Access all the options available from books in your wish list,
> Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the 
> search results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in 
> the same series.
>
> "  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without
> quotation marks and get reliable results.
>
> "  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get reliable
> results.
>
> "  Enter multiple types of information in a Keyword search, such as
> part of a title and an author's last name or a title and narrator's 
> name, and get reliable results.
>
> "  Change the type of search after you conduct the original search.
>
> "  Sort search results by title, author, or latest (the publication
> date).
>
> To conduct a search, choose the Search option at the top of the Get 
> Books screen, just above Wish List. Keyword is the default search 
> type, and Audio is the default format. Change these settings if you 
> like, type or dictate search terms in the search field, and choose Go 
> or Search. To change the format or type of search from the Search 
> Results page, select the search field at the top; all the options on 
> the original search page are now available. To sort the search 
> results, choose Title, Author, or Latest. To access options such as 
> Download and viewing other books by the same author with VoiceOver, 
> touch the title of interest, flick up or down to the desired choice, 
> and double-tap. If you don't use VoiceOver, select the More info 
> button to the right of the title, and then choose either Download, Add to 
> Wish List, or More Actions.
>
> Additionally, Version 2.0 fixes problems with:
>
> "  Rewind controls skipping further than 

RE: My update woe for today.

[Carolyn]

I don't know anything to do in settings about it. I will try the rotor, but 
anything in the past I've tried, even while phone ringing, only turns up the 
volume for the phone call, and of course, some with the screen, but I can't 
hear it for the phone call. This problem has been discussed on the Blind 
Hearing Aid Users' List; I am not the only person having the problem. 

I just called our time and temperature, but I could not hear the rotor so that 
I could get volume up. It is clearly a problem, but if there is a way I can fix 
it, I'd be glad to. I might give Apple Accessibility a call on it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Caroline, that is of course a good thing, but if this is because a setting on 
your phone it is nothing to be addressed by Apple because then it is not a bug 
but because of something on your phone.
Unless several others can confirm that this is an issue it may not be a bug.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone. 

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on a call. 

 

RE: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

[Carolyn]

Could you check Lock Screen in Settings to see if it was changed in the update? 
One time with an update, my cellular data was turned off. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

Reboot yoru phone.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gezim 
Rexha
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

 

Hi list,

 

After I upgraded to iOS 16.0, my iPhone screen gets locked too quickly, even 
when it is on, let me put it like that, read all mode. Fore example, if I am 
reading a Facebook post, screen gets locked before Voiceover has finished 
reading.

 

Before the upgrade, screen would get locked according to the time set, only 
when the iPhone was not active.

 

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

 

With best wishes,

Gezim

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RE: Smart switches

[Carolyn]

The home we are moving into has smart switches throughout. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart switches

Another thing to keep in mind is that if you have a light fixture which has 3 
or 4 bulbs then you need that many smart bulbs and that can get expensive in a 
hurry considering you would pay $20 or $30 US (more in Canada) for each smart 
bulb. A single smart switch here is more economical and as I said, if it is 
strictly yourself or your family if they are onboard with this it is one thing, 
but it's a pain in the butt if visitors turn your switches off in places like 
hallways or public rooms because then your smart bulbs are useless until the 
switch is turned on again. And if you plug a regular table lamp or floor 
standing lamp into a smnart outlet it's the same thing, somebody turns off the 
switch on the lamp and your smart outlet can no longer turn the lamp on or off 
until you turn it back on and off with the voice command.
Lastly, Amazon smart plugs may be nice and relatively inexpensive, but in a new 
home you really want to try and decide on a system where you can get everything 
from one manufacturer, e.g. smart switches, smart wall outlets and so on. 
Otherwise you end up with a patchwork of smart devices and while you may be 
able to control them all with Alexa or Google you may still need several apps 
from the various makes to set them up properly before that all happens.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
Spittle
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart switches

Hi Amy, I would suggest not changing to smart switches, but instead, change to 
smart lights. Then, you could use your smart speaker or your phone to control 
all of the lights. If you have table, lamps or lamps that plug in, the.

  Amazon has smart plugs which are pretty cheap around Black Friday for maybe 
five dollars and you can plug a device into it and use the same spark smart 
speaker to turn it on and off. Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> Hello all,
> To any of you have experience with installing smart switches into your homes? 
> I have a new home and want to be able to control all lights in my home with a 
> smart speaker or by iPhone via an app. Suggestions would be greatly 
> appreciated. I am trying to determine if there is a brand of switch that 
> works best, and if so, how you control the lights. I have quite a number of 
> lights in my home. Thanks.
> Amy.
> 
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RE: iphone app to check blood pressure

[Carolyn]

Louise, my husbamd says it is a Zewa. He said that if you are going on the New, 
you can put talking blood pressure monitor inj the search field, and that 
they're out there. It's just in my case, most of the cost of this was covered, 
and I like it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Louise Peyton
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iphone app to check blood pressure

Hi, Carolyn:
I don't belong to the Humana plan.  Do you know the specific name of the 
machine and who makes it?  I could look it up online to find it.
Louise

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iphone app to check blood pressure

I got a talking blood pressure device from Center Well Pharmacy at Humana. It 
seems reliable. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone app to check blood pressure

The phone can't do it by itself, or even the watch. The Qardio Arm is a 
hardware device with a traditional BP cuff that wraps around your upper arm, 
and communicates with an app on your phone via Bluetooth.
 
Andy
 

- Original Message - 
From: Louise Peyton   
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 4:43 PM
Subject: iphone app to check blood pressure


Hello, all:

Is there an app I can use with an IPhone that would help check blood 
pressure.  I found two talking blood pressure machines which were not as 
accurate as my primary care doctor's whose monitor doesn't speak audibly.  This 
is quite frustrating since my blood pressure can fluctuate.

The other question is would I need to purchase an Apple watch or just 
use some type of app strictly with the phone?  Thanks in advance.

Louise

 



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RE: Smart switches

[Carolyn]

I want to get an Echo Show, and I know it will connect with switches, when we 
get moved in a couple of months. I will be interested to know what anyone tells 
you about how to do this. 

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Amy Ruell
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Smart switches

Hello all,
To any of you have experience with installing smart switches into your homes? I 
have a new home and want to be able to control all lights in my home with a 
smart speaker or by iPhone via an app. Suggestions would be greatly 
appreciated. I am trying to determine if there is a brand of switch that works 
best, and if so, how you control the lights. I have quite a number of lights in 
my home. Thanks.
Amy.


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RE: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

[Christopher Chaltain]

I saw this as well, so as someone else also suggested, I went into Settings -> 
Display and changed my auto lock time and then changed it back, and it's 
working now. The time I can spend on my lock screen before the display shuts 
down seems shorter though. Is there any way to set this? Now that I have some 
widgets on my lock screen, I'd like to keep it up a bit longer.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 2:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

Reboot yoru phone.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gezim 
Rexha
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

Hi list,

After I upgraded to iOS 16.0, my iPhone screen gets locked too quickly, even 
when it is on, let me put it like that, read all mode. Fore example, if I am 
reading a Facebook post, screen gets locked before Voiceover has finished 
reading.

Before the upgrade, screen would get locked according to the time set, only 
when the iPhone was not active.

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

With best wishes,
Gezim
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Apple Music Help Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,
Since I updated my XR phone to iOS 15.7 a couple of days ago,  I can't find any 
of my 12 play lists that I created some years ago, and listen to everyday.  The 
only options I get when I am in the music app, browse, play, search, library, 
and I tap on library as I usually  did in order to come out of a search that I 
might have been in looking for an album or a song, in order to go back to my 
play lists.  Now, I just can't find any of my play lists though, and I've 
worked on this for 2 days, but still no go.  Matter of fact,  I also keep 
seeing the searches I've done some months ago, and I just can't get out of 
that!  I've done a reboot but still no go.

Thank you all in advance for any suggestions.

Janet

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RE: Startup/Shutdown sounds

[Dennis Long]

The only problem is it iPhone 14 pro and pro maxes only.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Startup/Shutdown sounds

 

Kudos to Apple for the implementation of the startup and shutdown sounds.  I 
was skeptical as to how they were going to implement this ..  in my mind they 
did it right!

 

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RE: CPAP

[Peter Logan]

Thanks for the feedback ..  yeah based on the research I was doing .. that is 
what I found.  Thanks for the feedback.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: CPAP

 

I have the Resmed C-PAP machine and their app will give you the readings each 
morning, but you cannot make adjustments other than on the machine.  

But, after the doctor set it up, I haven’t had to change it other than to try a 
slightly different airflow or humidity, and my sighted wife, who has the same 
machine, could do that.

My impression is they are all like this now.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

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Peter Logan
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: CPAP

 

Does anyone know if there are particular CPAP machines that have apps for the 
iPhone that will control the system .. and of course are accessible.  I am 
needing to get a new system .. and they now seem to all have LCDs and limited 
physical buttons like the older systems.  Was hoping to find one that will work 
with an app so that it can be effectively used.  Any help as always is 
appreciated.

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Startup/Shutdown sounds

[Peter Logan]

Kudos to Apple for the implementation of the startup and shutdown sounds.  I
was skeptical as to how they were going to implement this ..  in my mind
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RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[deidreandlouise]

Joshua 
Oh, if you have a huge volume of books on your old phone, I can see why 
you would like to do an easy transfer. I am not tech savvy so I don't know why 
BARD books can't be backupped then transferred to a new phone using I Tunes. 
Does it have to do with their formatting? It would take a very long time to 
transfer an entire library, wouldn't it?
libray down
As for me, since BARD has a record of all the books "previously downloaded" I 
don't fret about it. I don't need to have them all sitting on any given phone. 
Luckily BARD downloads don't take that long.

Deidre
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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On 9/16/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I agree.  I would very much like to have my bard books be able to 
> transfer from my iPhone 8 to my iPhone 13 pro max.  The only reason 
> why I'm keeping my iPhone 8 is because of all the bard books on it.
> Once I can get my bard books moved to my newer phone, I'll see if I 
> can sell my iPhone 8.  However, who knows how long it will be before 
> we can get our bard books on different devices.  I'm glad we are 
> getting bard mobile 2.0.  This seems like a step in the wright 
> direction.
>
> On 9/16/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> My apologies, the email address to write them with any 
>> suggestions/comments/questions did not copy.
>>
>> Write to nlsdownl...@loc.gov 


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Re: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[Joshua Hendrickson]

On 9/16/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I agree.  I would very much like to have my bard books be able to
> transfer from my iPhone 8 to my iPhone 13 pro max.  The only reason
> why I'm keeping my iPhone 8 is because of all the bard books on it.
> Once I can get my bard books moved to my newer phone, I'll see if I
> can sell my iPhone 8.  However, who knows how long it will be before
> we can get our bard books on different devices.  I'm glad we are
> getting bard mobile 2.0.  This seems like a step in the wright
> direction.
>
> On 9/16/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> My apologies, the email address to write them with any
>> suggestions/comments/questions did not copy.
>>
>> Write to nlsdownl...@loc.gov 
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone with that wish should write them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>>
>>
>>
>> My web site:   https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> 礪
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Star
>> Gazer
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
>>
>>
>>
>> This is
>> wonderful. Onto my question though, when will we be able to transfer
>> content
>> between devices, say upgrading from one phone to another?
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>> Of
>> deidreandlou...@gmail.com 
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
>>
>>
>>
>>BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do already
>> but
>> some of the added flexibility is  nice.
>>
>>
>>
>>Deidre
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>> Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
>>
>>
>>
>> From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is not
>> available yet.
>>
>> The email below is from BARD Support.
>>
>>
>>
>> Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0
>>
>> We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD
>> Mobile
>> for iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced by a new
>> and
>> powerful search engine that has the following abilities:
>>
>> "  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.
>>
>> "  Search for either braille or audio content.
>>
>> "  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.
>>
>> "  Search for items in the Music collection, including music
>> appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.
>>
>> "  Access all the options available from books in your wish list,
>> Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the search
>> results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in the same
>> series.
>>
>> "  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without
>> quotation marks and get reliable results.
>>
>> "  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get
>> reliable
>> results.
>>
>> "  Enter multiple types of information in a Keyword search, such
>> as
>> part of a title and an author's last name or a title and narrator's name,
>> and get reliable results.
>>
>> "  Change the type of search after you conduct the original
>> search.
>>
>> "  Sort search results by title, author, or latest (the
>> publication
>> date).
>>
>> To conduct a search, choose the Search option at the top of the Get Books
>> screen, just above Wish List. Keyword is the default search type, and
>> Audio
>> is the default format. Change these settings if you like, type or dictate
>> search terms in the search field, and choose Go or Search. To change the
>> format or type of search from the Search Results page, select the search
>> field at the top; all the options on the original search page are now
>> available. To sort the search results, choose Title, Author, or Latest.
>> To
>> access options such as Download and viewing other books by the same
>> author
>> with VoiceOver, touch the title of interest, flick up or down to the
>> desired
>> choice, and double-tap. If you don't use VoiceOver, select the More info
>> button to the right of the title, and then choose either Download, Add to
>> Wish List, or More Actions.
>>
>> Additionally, Version 2.0 fixes problems with:
>>
>> "  Rewind controls skipping further than intended.
>>
>> "  Side loading books.
>>
>> "  Downloading and reading non-ASCII foreign language book
>> titles.
>>
>> 

Re: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I agree.  I would very much like to have my bard books be able to
transfer from my iPhone 8 to my iPhone 13 pro max.  The only reason
why I'm keeping my iPhone 8 is because of all the bard books on it.
Once I can get my bard books moved to my newer phone, I'll see if I
can sell my iPhone 8.  However, who knows how long it will be before
we can get our bard books on different devices.  I'm glad we are
getting bard mobile 2.0.  This seems like a step in the wright
direction.

On 9/16/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> My apologies, the email address to write them with any
> suggestions/comments/questions did not copy.
>
> Write to nlsdownl...@loc.gov 
>
>
>
> Anyone with that wish should write them.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>
>
>
> My web site:   https://www.turner42.com
>
> 礪
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star
> Gazer
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
>
>
>
> This is
> wonderful. Onto my question though, when will we be able to transfer content
> between devices, say upgrading from one phone to another?
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> deidreandlou...@gmail.com 
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
>
>
>
>BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do already but
> some of the added flexibility is  nice.
>
>
>
>Deidre
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
>
>
>
> From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is not
> available yet.
>
> The email below is from BARD Support.
>
>
>
> Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0
>
> We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD Mobile
> for iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced by a new and
> powerful search engine that has the following abilities:
>
> "  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.
>
> "  Search for either braille or audio content.
>
> "  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.
>
> "  Search for items in the Music collection, including music
> appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.
>
> "  Access all the options available from books in your wish list,
> Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the search
> results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in the same
> series.
>
> "  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without
> quotation marks and get reliable results.
>
> "  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get reliable
> results.
>
> "  Enter multiple types of information in a Keyword search, such as
> part of a title and an author's last name or a title and narrator's name,
> and get reliable results.
>
> "  Change the type of search after you conduct the original search.
>
> "  Sort search results by title, author, or latest (the publication
> date).
>
> To conduct a search, choose the Search option at the top of the Get Books
> screen, just above Wish List. Keyword is the default search type, and Audio
> is the default format. Change these settings if you like, type or dictate
> search terms in the search field, and choose Go or Search. To change the
> format or type of search from the Search Results page, select the search
> field at the top; all the options on the original search page are now
> available. To sort the search results, choose Title, Author, or Latest. To
> access options such as Download and viewing other books by the same author
> with VoiceOver, touch the title of interest, flick up or down to the desired
> choice, and double-tap. If you don't use VoiceOver, select the More info
> button to the right of the title, and then choose either Download, Add to
> Wish List, or More Actions.
>
> Additionally, Version 2.0 fixes problems with:
>
> "  Rewind controls skipping further than intended.
>
> "  Side loading books.
>
> "  Downloading and reading non-ASCII foreign language book titles.
>
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Re: A problem with YouTube app

[Donna Casteen]

Even more frustrating, there is an update to the YouTube app today, guess what? 
You guessed it, the problem for voiceover users has NOT been fixed!

Donna

> 
> Yes, this is quite annoying for sure. I have submitted feedback to YouTube 
> on this problem, and I hope others will do the same.  There is supposedly a 
> workaround where, when you open the app for the first time, you turn, 
> voiceover off, and then swipe down with your finger and then re-enable 
> voiceover. This works unreliably for me. Also, it is very difficult to edit 
> comments. My only other suggestion is that you leave feedback to YouTube 
> letting them know that this is a problem for you as a blind person. Good luck.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello group
>> Have you noticed that since  few months, it is impossible to scroll on 
>> YouTube app when you are on home screen
>> 
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RE: Major problem after updating to 16

[Sieghard Weitzel]

But if your bank has to update the app to work properly with Voiceover you have 
to at least let them know because otherwise they won't do it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Major problem after updating to 16

Hello Davie, and list,


I actually wasn't blaming anyone in particular. All I was trying to figure out, 
is what I might do to fix the issue. I could use the App just fine before I did 
the update. So this whole thing is frustrating for me.


However, I wasn't blaming anyone. That isn't usually the way I operate.


Thank you,


Terri

On 9/16/2022 10:18 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
> I agree, app developers have had several months to get their apps ready for 
> iOS 16.  There is no excuse other than laziness on the behalf of the app 
> developer.
>
>
>
> Richard
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 8:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Major problem after updating to 16
>
> Please do not blame Apple for that, just blame your bank and tell them to 
> make their app accessible!
> Davy
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Terri 
> Stimmel
> Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2022 14:13
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Major problem after updating to 16
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I updated my iPhone 12 Mini yesterday, to IOS 16. It all went very smoothly 
> for me, which I am very thankful for. I haven't really ran into any problems.
> Such as, the different bugs I have read about.
>
> However, I just discovered a huge problem, and I don't know if there is 
> anything I can do about it.
>
> My banking App is now not as accessible. I can see my accounts, and what 
> money is available.
>
> However, when I go into an account to view the transactions, I get a lot of 
> different images, and words such as coupon, and other words. None of it makes 
> much sense, in all honesty.
>
>I tried turning on screen recognition to see if this would make much of a 
> difference. I could then see some of the transactions. But this didn't seem 
> to happen consistently. Also, everything kind of seem ran together.
>
> There are tabs at the bottom of the screen. I can still view these.
>
> However, when I choose one, then all the buttons are images, and words again. 
> This was nether the case before.
>
> What can I do, if anything?
>
> I will definitely reach out to Apple. As well as my bank.
>
> But might anyone have any thoughts as to how I can possibly use the App, 
> until it is back closer to the way it was?
>
> This is rather frustrating. But even more, this is an App that I most 
> definitely need to be able to use, with as much ease as possible.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Terri
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RE: My update woe for today.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Caroline, that is of course a good thing, but if this is because a setting on 
your phone it is nothing to be addressed by Apple because then it is not a bug 
but because of something on your phone.
Unless several others can confirm that this is an issue it may not be a bug.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone. 

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

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Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on a call. 

 

Such are some of the vagaries of iOS 16. 

 



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Re: A problem with YouTube app

[Lynn Schneider]

Yes, this is quite annoying for sure. I have submitted feedback to YouTube on 
this problem, and I hope others will do the same.  There is supposedly a 
workaround where, when you open the app for the first time, you turn, voiceover 
off, and then swipe down with your finger and then re-enable voiceover. This 
works unreliably for me. Also, it is very difficult to edit comments. My only 
other suggestion is that you leave feedback to YouTube letting them know that 
this is a problem for you as a blind person. Good luck.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Reboot yoru phone.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gezim 
Rexha
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

Hi list,

After I upgraded to iOS 16.0, my iPhone screen gets locked too quickly, even 
when it is on, let me put it like that, read all mode. Fore example, if I am 
reading a Facebook post, screen gets locked before Voiceover has finished 
reading.

Before the upgrade, screen would get locked according to the time set, only 
when the iPhone was not active.

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

With best wishes,
Gezim
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RE: Smart switches

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Another thing to keep in mind is that if you have a light fixture which has 3 
or 4 bulbs then you need that many smart bulbs and that can get expensive in a 
hurry considering you would pay $20 or $30 US (more in Canada) for each smart 
bulb. A single smart switch here is more economical and as I said, if it is 
strictly yourself or your family if they are onboard with this it is one thing, 
but it's a pain in the butt if visitors turn your switches off in places like 
hallways or public rooms because then your smart bulbs are useless until the 
switch is turned on again. And if you plug a regular table lamp or floor 
standing lamp into a smnart outlet it's the same thing, somebody turns off the 
switch on the lamp and your smart outlet can no longer turn the lamp on or off 
until you turn it back on and off with the voice command.
Lastly, Amazon smart plugs may be nice and relatively inexpensive, but in a new 
home you really want to try and decide on a system where you can get everything 
from one manufacturer, e.g. smart switches, smart wall outlets and so on. 
Otherwise you end up with a patchwork of smart devices and while you may be 
able to control them all with Alexa or Google you may still need several apps 
from the various makes to set them up properly before that all happens.

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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi Amy, I would suggest not changing to smart switches, but instead, change to 
smart lights. Then, you could use your smart speaker or your phone to control 
all of the lights. If you have table, lamps or lamps that plug in, the.

  Amazon has smart plugs which are pretty cheap around Black Friday for maybe 
five dollars and you can plug a device into it and use the same spark smart 
speaker to turn it on and off. Sent from my iPhone

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> To any of you have experience with installing smart switches into your homes? 
> I have a new home and want to be able to control all lights in my home with a 
> smart speaker or by iPhone via an app. Suggestions would be greatly 
> appreciated. I am trying to determine if there is a brand of switch that 
> works best, and if so, how you control the lights. I have quite a number of 
> lights in my home. Thanks.
> Amy.
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RE: Smart switches

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are two things  you can do: you can either get actual smart wall switches 
installed or you can replace all your bulbs with Philips Hue smart bulbs.
The problem with using Philips Hue is that the traditional light switch has to 
be switched on, then  you can ask Alex, Google or SIRI (Hue supports all of 
them) to turn off specific lights, rooms or groups (that of course depends on 
your setup and naming of the bulbs and rooms). If you have somebody visiting 
who doesn't know how this all works and is willing to also use the voice 
commands, chances are they walk into a room and want to turn on the light, of 
course the switch is on but the light is off so first they switch the light 
off, nothing happens so it is my experience people then push/flick the switch 
again and most likely now the light comes on and they are happy. Then they 
leave a room or maybe if they are considerate and know that you can't see the 
lights they turn off all the lights when they leave and at that point you tell 
Alexa to turn on a light but of course it won't work because the switch is off 
and there is no power to the smart biulb.

So, going back to smart switches. That is what I would do now, when we got all 
our Philips Hue bulbs many years ago these in-wall decora style smart switches 
which look like a regular light switch didn't really exist yet. Now they do and 
when I did my retail store renovation 2 years ago that is what I put in. The 
ones I used are from Leviton and here a sighted person can push them as always, 
but you can also control them with Google or Alexa or through various home 
automation apps. I am not entirely sure if they support Apple Home Kit or this 
new "Matter" standard which is supposed to be coming and supported by almost 
everybody.
You can get Leviton smart switches which work via Wi-Fi or you can get a 
version which uses the Zigbee wireless protocol to communicate with a hub, in 
my case those are the ones we have because this way they integrate with our 
alarm panel and app which is Alarm.com.
Lutron also makes a huge selection of smart switches in their Caséta Wireless 
selection and here you can also have control for shades and so on. I think 
Lutron might be more expensive. 
I recently read about some other company which makes a very budget oriented 
smart wall switch, but I can't remember the name so you just have to do your 
homework.

I am actually thinking of slowly replacing all our in-wall decora style paddle 
switches with most likely the Leviton ones since those at my store work well 
despite the fact we have Philips Hue bulbs in most of our lights and in the 
bathroom I have an actual Hue light fixture, they also do make a lot of stuff. 
But we run into this all the time when somebody is visiting then we run around 
the house afterwards and turn all the switches back on so we can use Alexa or 
the home app to turn them off and have control again. That is why in a new 
installation in-wall smart switches is in my opinion the way to go and you can 
also add a few smart wall outlets if you think you have things you want to plug 
in where you want remote/voice control over whatever appliance is plugged into 
that wall socket. You can also get wall sockets which have USB outlets next to 
them. If you want coloured lights you could still get a few Philips Hue bulbs 
capable of colours.


Best regards,
Sieghard





switch if you have pe

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Smart switches

Hello all,
To any of you have experience with installing smart switches into your homes? I 
have a new home and want to be able to control all lights in my home with a 
smart speaker or by iPhone via an app. Suggestions would be greatly 
appreciated. I am trying to determine if there is a brand of switch that works 
best, and if so, how you control the lights. I have quite a number of lights in 
my home. Thanks.
Amy.


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Re: Smart switches

[Holly]

I use smart plugs for all my plug in lamps and other electrical appliances. 
They are easy to set up and you just name them to tell your echo to turn 
them on and off.  I had one for my Christmas tree last year. 


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Re: Smart switches

[Thom Spittle]

Hi Amy, I would suggest not changing to smart switches, but instead, change to 
smart lights. Then, you could use your smart speaker or your phone to control 
all of the lights. If you have table, lamps or lamps that plug in, the.

  Amazon has smart plugs which are pretty cheap around Black Friday for maybe 
five dollars and you can plug a device into it and use the same spark smart 
speaker to turn it on and off. Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> To any of you have experience with installing smart switches into your homes? 
> I have a new home and want to be able to control all lights in my home with a 
> smart speaker or by iPhone via an app. Suggestions would be greatly 
> appreciated. I am trying to determine if there is a brand of switch that 
> works best, and if so, how you control the lights. I have quite a number of 
> lights in my home. Thanks.
> Amy.
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Re: Major problem after updating to 16

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello Davie, and list,


I actually wasn't blaming anyone in particular. All I was trying to 
figure out, is what I might do to fix the issue. I could use the App 
just fine before I did the update. So this whole thing is frustrating 
for me.



However, I wasn't blaming anyone. That isn't usually the way I operate.


Thank you,


Terri

On 9/16/2022 10:18 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I agree, app developers have had several months to get their apps ready for iOS 
16.  There is no excuse other than laziness on the behalf of the app developer.



Richard
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Subject: RE: Major problem after updating to 16

Please do not blame Apple for that, just blame your bank and tell them to make 
their app accessible!
Davy

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Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2022 14:13
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Onderwerp: Major problem after updating to 16

Hello everyone,

I updated my iPhone 12 Mini yesterday, to IOS 16. It all went very smoothly for 
me, which I am very thankful for. I haven't really ran into any problems.
Such as, the different bugs I have read about.

However, I just discovered a huge problem, and I don't know if there is 
anything I can do about it.

My banking App is now not as accessible. I can see my accounts, and what money 
is available.

However, when I go into an account to view the transactions, I get a lot of 
different images, and words such as coupon, and other words. None of it makes 
much sense, in all honesty.

   I tried turning on screen recognition to see if this would make much of a 
difference. I could then see some of the transactions. But this didn't seem to 
happen consistently. Also, everything kind of seem ran together.

There are tabs at the bottom of the screen. I can still view these.

However, when I choose one, then all the buttons are images, and words again. 
This was nether the case before.

What can I do, if anything?

I will definitely reach out to Apple. As well as my bank.

But might anyone have any thoughts as to how I can possibly use the App, until 
it is back closer to the way it was?

This is rather frustrating. But even more, this is an App that I most 
definitely need to be able to use, with as much ease as possible.

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: How useful to blind users is the Lidar sensor?

[Richard Turner]

Here is an article from How To Geek prior to the release of the iPhone 12 Pro 
and Pro max, the first models to have LIDAR.

What Is LiDAR?
A LiDAR scanner determines the distance between itself and an object by 
monitoring how long it takes a pulse of light (often a laser) to bounce back. 
It’s like radar, except instead of radio waves, it uses infrared light.

While radar is designed to be used across great distances, LiDAR works on a 
smaller scale, due to the way light is absorbed by objects in its path. By 
sending hundreds of thousands of light pulses every second, LiDAR scanners can 
work out distances and object sizes with relative accuracy over small distances.

A living room with furniture outlined by dots, showing what the iPhone LIDAR 
scanner sees.

This data can then be used to construct 3D models, which is one of the main 
uses for LiDAR in construction and engineering projects. You’ve likely heard of 
3D laser scans being used to draw up building plans—that’s LiDAR.

LiDAR actually has many uses across many industries. Archaeologists use it to 
prepare dig sites and autonomous vehicles rely on it to construct real-time 3D 
maps of their surroundings. LiDAR has even been used to create highly realistic 
and accurate maps of race tracks in video games, like Project CARS. Police 
speed guns also use LiDAR.

And now, just like the iPad Pro in March 2020, a LiDAR scanner has come to 
Apple’s premium iPhone 12 Pro.

How the iPhone 12 Pro Uses LiDAR
Apple uses LiDAR a bit differently than a construction site or speed gun. It’s 
the same basic principle—bouncing light to determine distance—but on a smaller 
scale. The LiDAR scanner in the iPhone 12 Pro (and iPad Pro) has an effective 
range of around 16 feet (5 meters).

The primary purpose of LiDAR in the iPhone is to improve augmented reality (AR) 
implementation. It will give apps more useful and accurate information about 
their surroundings, for smoother, more reliable AR.

If you’re unfamiliar with the technology, AR allows developers to fuse virtual 
objects and the real world. It uses your device’s camera and allows you to play 
games, apply interactive filters (like those on Snapchat), or preview the 
placement of furniture and other objects.

Pokémon Go is one example of a successful AR game that allows you to capture 
virtual creatures in the real world. With Ikea’s wildly successful Place app, 
you can see how most of the company’s catalog would look in your home.

LEGO is one of many companies that has also launched stand-alone products (in 
this case, building sets) that can “come alive” via AR features when you have a 
compatible smartphone.

While LiDAR is often used to scan buildings and other objects, the scanner on 
the iPhone 12 Pro and iPad Pro isn’t accurate enough to scan objects precisely. 
Sebastiaan de With, who developed the popular iPhone camera app Halide, 
discovered this while building a proof of concept called Esper.

“Unfortunately, the mesh output by the system right now isn’t accurate enough 
to send to a 3D printer,” de With wrote on the Halide website. “But it’s a 
great starting point for a 3D model, since all the proportions will be very 
accurate.”

In reality, LiDAR scanners are likely to improve on two main things: virtual 
object placement (like shopping apps) and AR gaming. These are already possible 
on non-LiDAR iPhones, but it adds an extra layer of accuracy to things like 
dimensions and the precise distance to an object in a room.

You can also expect a more seamless AR experience, particularly when placing 
virtual items in the real world. For example, the iPhone 12 Pro should be 
better able to identify real-world items in the foreground. This should make 
for more realistic interactions between virtual and real objects.

Virtual toys, characters, and scenery in a living room AR Experience on iPad 
Pro.

Apple also intends to use LiDAR to improve camera performance in low light. 
It’s implemented “focus pixels” in the iPhone XS, which is the company’s brand 
of phase-detect autofocus (PDAF). This technology still depends on light, which 
is why even the latest autofocus advancements don’t work all that well in the 
dark.

By sensing the distance between your iPhone and the subject you’re taking a 
picture of, Apple can tell the camera at what distance it should focus to get 
the best results. This should make it much easier to take better photos with 
your iPhone in the dark, especially when combined with Night mode.

Will LiDAR Become a Big Deal?
Presently, only two Apple devices have a sensor. Both are also priced at a 
premium and feature the “Pro” moniker, so LiDAR is a niche feature for now. 
However, that doesn’t mean software will be slow to catch on. Apple’s 
exhaustive list of software development kits (SDKs) includes ARKit, which was 
updated to version 4.0 in June 2020.

This update rolled out new features that leverage LiDAR into ARKit, allowing 
developers to take advantage of the 

RE: iphone app to check blood pressure

[Louise Peyton]

Hi, Carolyn:
I don't belong to the Humana plan.  Do you know the specific name of the 
machine and who makes it?  I could look it up online to find it.
Louise

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I got a talking blood pressure device from Center Well Pharmacy at Humana. It 
seems reliable. 

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Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 7:55 PM
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The phone can't do it by itself, or even the watch. The Qardio Arm is a 
hardware device with a traditional BP cuff that wraps around your upper arm, 
and communicates with an app on your phone via Bluetooth.
 
Andy
 

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Subject: iphone app to check blood pressure


Hello, all:

Is there an app I can use with an IPhone that would help check blood 
pressure.  I found two talking blood pressure machines which were not as 
accurate as my primary care doctor's whose monitor doesn't speak audibly.  This 
is quite frustrating since my blood pressure can fluctuate.

The other question is would I need to purchase an Apple watch or just 
use some type of app strictly with the phone?  Thanks in advance.

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Smart switches

[Amy Ruell]

Hello all,
To any of you have experience with installing smart switches into your homes? I 
have a new home and want to be able to control all lights in my home with a 
smart speaker or by iPhone via an app. Suggestions would be greatly 
appreciated. I am trying to determine if there is a brand of switch that works 
best, and if so, how you control the lights. I have quite a number of lights in 
my home. Thanks.
Amy.


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RE: How useful to blind users is the Lidar sensor?

[Carolyn]

And, what is it the LiDAR does? I know that Door Detector indicates door 
location and describes environment to an extent, but what is it that LiDAR 
does? 

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Hi listers,
I can imagine that the Lidar sensor on the iPhone has great accessibility 
potentials. If there is any reason for me to have the urge to upgrade from XR 
to 14 pro is to have lidar on my phone. For those of you who have phones with 
lidar, how useful this has been so far? I am very curious.
I hope to hear your opinions on the subject.
Cheers

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RE: I O S 16.0

[Carolyn]

Someone gave:

accessibil...@apple.com

I just sent them two emails. 

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Thanks, do you have an email I can report this to?

 

 

 

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davycupp...@gmail.com
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Then please do report this to Apple Accessibility!

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Noe Villeda
Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2022 14:30
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: I O S 16.0

 

I have an iPhone 10r and I’ve noticed the following when listening to music on 
the iPhone.

 

If the screen is locked, and I pause the song, before, I could swipe down to 
adjust the track position to 0 seconds to back to the beginning of the song.

 

With I O S 16, you can no longer scroll down to adjust the track position, when 
the song is paused.

 

Does anyone know of a workaround?

 

 

 

 

 

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A problem with YouTube app

[Rafał Marzec]

Hello group
Have you noticed that since  few months, it is impossible to scroll on YouTube 
app when you are on home screen

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RE: automatic reminders or calendars

[Carolyn]

I ask Siri:

Set Reminder for Saturday, October 1, at 9 a.m., going to lunch at 12 with 
church group. It works. 

I used to have mine set for a weekly reminder for my husband to take a weekly 
medication. Back then, Voiceover announced it, and one Wednesday morning, when 
we entered a department store, my trusty SE read: "Wednesday, Methotrexate 
time. 

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Subject: automatic reminders or calendars

Hello Good People,
Looking for a calendar, or reminder app, that will automatically prompt that 
there is a task to be acomplished.
for example, I enter an apointment in the calendar, and the day before, at a 
specific time, I would like the system to automatically alert me to the event 
for next day.
If I haven't exxplained things too well, accept my apologies.
This used to be an onboard feature to an earlier samsung android phone I used 
to run.

Thanks.

Joe



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RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[Richard Turner]

My apologies, the email address to write them with any 
suggestions/comments/questions did not copy.

Write to nlsdownl...@loc.gov  

 

Anyone with that wish should write them.

 

Richard

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礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

This is 
wonderful. Onto my question though, when will we be able to transfer content 
between devices, say upgrading from one phone to another? 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com  
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

   BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do already but 
some of the added flexibility is  nice.

 

   Deidre

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

>From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is not 
>available yet.

The email below is from BARD Support.

 

Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0

We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD Mobile for 
iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced by a new and powerful 
search engine that has the following abilities:

"  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.

"  Search for either braille or audio content.

"  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.

"  Search for items in the Music collection, including music 
appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.

"  Access all the options available from books in your wish list, 
Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the search 
results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in the same series.

"  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without 
quotation marks and get reliable results. 

"  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get reliable 
results.

"  Enter multiple types of information in a Keyword search, such as 
part of a title and an author's last name or a title and narrator's name, and 
get reliable results.

"  Change the type of search after you conduct the original search.

"  Sort search results by title, author, or latest (the publication 
date).

To conduct a search, choose the Search option at the top of the Get Books 
screen, just above Wish List. Keyword is the default search type, and Audio is 
the default format. Change these settings if you like, type or dictate search 
terms in the search field, and choose Go or Search. To change the format or 
type of search from the Search Results page, select the search field at the 
top; all the options on the original search page are now available. To sort the 
search results, choose Title, Author, or Latest. To access options such as 
Download and viewing other books by the same author with VoiceOver, touch the 
title of interest, flick up or down to the desired choice, and double-tap. If 
you don't use VoiceOver, select the More info button to the right of the title, 
and then choose either Download, Add to Wish List, or More Actions.

Additionally, Version 2.0 fixes problems with:

"  Rewind controls skipping further than intended.

"  Side loading books.

"  Downloading and reading non-ASCII foreign language book titles.

The update should be available by Friday, September 23rd. We hope you enjoy it.

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RE: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

[Carolyn]

Have you checked in Settings to see if your Screen Lock time was changed in the 
update? One time, with an update, my cellular data was turned off. Why? I 
haven't the faintest idea. But, I turned it back on. 

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Gezim Rexha
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

Hi list,

 

After I upgraded to iOS 16.0, my iPhone screen gets locked too quickly, even 
when it is on, let me put it like that, read all mode. Fore example, if I am 
reading a Facebook post, screen gets locked before Voiceover has finished 
reading.

 

Before the upgrade, screen would get locked according to the time set, only 
when the iPhone was not active.

 

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

 

With best wishes,

Gezim

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RE: My update woe for today.

[Carolyn]

Volume is low then, only, when I am on the phone. 

I did send a letter to Apple addressing the matter. 

-Original Message-
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

Have you tried to simply turn the rotor to volume and then flick up to raise 
Voiceover volume. I have a feeling that your problem is simply that Voiceover 
volume has gotten turned very low.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My update woe for today.

I also tried this with Bluetooth off and with earbuds, but still, Voiceover in 
the background is way, way soft. 

Thanks, got headphones set. 

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Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My update woe for today.

Hi, 
I’m curious what your hearing aids are configured as under Bluetooth settings 
on your iPhone. I know the behavior of speakers and headphones change if a 
speaker is set to headphones via its configuration so thought I would bring 
that up. You can go to iPhone settings, Bluetooth settings, find your hearing 
aids and swipe up to find more info double tap, and then choose device type. I 
would try to set them as headphones, if not other and see if that changes 
anything. If anything, play with the different settings.


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On Sep 15, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



 

I can’t hear numbers or anything on Voiceover when on a call with 
Bluetooth to my hearing aids. Once I shut my phone down, brought it back up, 
and it seemed better. 

 

So, that is exactly what I did, only when bringing it up, no Voiceover. 
Jim tried to help me, but we were in a mess. I called Apple Accessibility and 
got a magically helpful lady named Angela. With her thinking out of the box, we 
finally got it back; I had to tell Jim what to punch in for my passcode. Then, 
VOILA, along came Voiceover. It happened that I had Screen Curtain on, so I 
turned it off, and Jim could see that it looked all right. So I had to punch my 
24-character Apple ID, finally got it back. 

 

She got us to press Power Button and Volume Down to try to get it back 
on. That did work. Actually, then, we waited quite a long time, before bringing 
the phone back up. I think she realized that probably my phone was on, but that 
I did not know it, so turn off, then give good wait, and bring it up again. I 
don’t know what would have happened if Jim hadn’t been here and willing to fool 
with it. 

 

I told her that the Voiceover sound not being easily heard had been a 
problem for some time, which was the reason that I turned my phone off. It is 
working now, even Evan came back. I’ve heard some say that their phone 
defaulted to Samantha. 

 

Incidentally, while in this pickle, I called the phone from our 
landline. It rang, but, I could not answer it. 

 

I have just tried with earbuds with Bluetooth off, and stil have to 
struggle to hear anything on the screen while on a call. 

 

Such are some of the vagaries of iOS 16. 

 



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RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[Star Gazer]

This is 
wonderful. Onto my question though, when will we be able to transfer content 
between devices, say upgrading from one phone to another? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

   BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do already but 
some of the added flexibility is  nice.

 

   Deidre

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

>From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is not 
>available yet.

The email below is from BARD Support.

 

Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0

We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD Mobile for 
iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced by a new and powerful 
search engine that has the following abilities:

"  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.

"  Search for either braille or audio content.

"  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.

"  Search for items in the Music collection, including music 
appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.

"  Access all the options available from books in your wish list, 
Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the search 
results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in the same series.

"  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without 
quotation marks and get reliable results. 

"  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get reliable 
results.

"  Enter multiple types of information in a Keyword search, such as 
part of a title and an author's last name or a title and narrator's name, and 
get reliable results.

"  Change the type of search after you conduct the original search.

"  Sort search results by title, author, or latest (the publication 
date).

To conduct a search, choose the Search option at the top of the Get Books 
screen, just above Wish List. Keyword is the default search type, and Audio is 
the default format. Change these settings if you like, type or dictate search 
terms in the search field, and choose Go or Search. To change the format or 
type of search from the Search Results page, select the search field at the 
top; all the options on the original search page are now available. To sort the 
search results, choose Title, Author, or Latest. To access options such as 
Download and viewing other books by the same author with VoiceOver, touch the 
title of interest, flick up or down to the desired choice, and double-tap. If 
you don't use VoiceOver, select the More info button to the right of the title, 
and then choose either Download, Add to Wish List, or More Actions.

Additionally, Version 2.0 fixes problems with:

"  Rewind controls skipping further than intended.

"  Side loading books.

"  Downloading and reading non-ASCII foreign language book titles.

The update should be available by Friday, September 23rd. We hope you enjoy it.

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RE: iphone app to check blood pressure

[Carolyn]

I got a talking blood pressure device from Center Well Pharmacy at Humana. It 
seems reliable. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone app to check blood pressure

The phone can't do it by itself, or even the watch. The Qardio Arm is a 
hardware device with a traditional BP cuff that wraps around your upper arm, 
and communicates with an app on your phone via Bluetooth.
 
Andy
 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 4:43 PM
Subject: iphone app to check blood pressure


Hello, all:

Is there an app I can use with an IPhone that would help check blood 
pressure.  I found two talking blood pressure machines which were not as 
accurate as my primary care doctor’s whose monitor doesn’t speak audibly.  This 
is quite frustrating since my blood pressure can fluctuate.

The other question is would I need to purchase an Apple watch or just 
use some type of app strictly with the phone?  Thanks in advance.

Louise

 



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RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[Richard Turner]

At the risk of going too deep into thread creep, I would only use Learning Ally 
as a very last resort because their readers are poor to terrible  for the most 
part.  IN college, 50 years ago, I had to use them exclusively for audio books 
because in the day, they were the only source for text books.  I was reading a 
book for my Freshman Fiction class, Sons and Lovers by D. H. Lawrence.  The 
book started out with a fabulous British reader!  I swear, in mid paragraph, 
but it was probably at a page break, a woman with a very, very strong southern 
US accent took over.  I had to jump up and stop the player, which BTW was a 
real-to-real player and calm my outrage.  I won’t repeat what I likely said …

 

There were at least 6 other readers before finishing the book.  

But, without them, I would not have been able to get through college, so I am 
grateful.  I am also grateful they Grandfathered those of us into the Learning 
Ally from Recordings for the Blind because I absolutely wouldn’t pay for the 
service even if that was the only source for a book.  I’d scan the book myself 
first.

 

OK, back to focusing on BARD, 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matthew 
Bullis
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

I only use Learning Ally when I can't find something somewhere else. There app 
is terrible. It doesn’t use the magic tap to start and stop playback, you can't 
increase the speed without going into several screen levels deep, and the thing 
that's the search says magnifying glass. It's definitely usable and accessible, 
but not efficient or nice.

Matthew

 


On Sep 16, 2022, at 8:27 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



Definitely all good things. I sure wish Learning Ally hadn't redone it's web 
site when they were no longer Recordings for the Blind, and made getting boks 
so arduous. I rarely use them anymore. Are they up to date on thelatest texts 
books, etc? Is anyone here still enjoying their many offereings?

   Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

I particularly like the idea of being able to download directly from the search 
results.  Sometimes, I want to download a book immediately, not put it on the 
wish list and then download it.

The improved search results will also be welcome.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com  
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

   BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do already but 
some of the added flexibility is  nice.

 

   Deidre

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

>From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is not 
>available yet.

The email below is from BARD Support.

 

Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0

We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD Mobile for 
iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced by a new and powerful 
search engine that has the following abilities:

"  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.

"  Search for either braille or audio content.

"  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.

"  Search for items in the Music collection, including music 
appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.

"  Access all the options available from books in your wish list, 
Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the search 
results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in the same series.

"  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without 
quotation marks and get reliable results. 

"  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get reliable 
results.

"  Enter multiple types of information in a 

Re: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[Matthew Bullis]

I only use Learning Ally when I can't find something somewhere else. There app 
is terrible. It doesn’t use the magic tap to start and stop playback, you can't 
increase the speed without going into several screen levels deep, and the thing 
that's the search says magnifying glass. It's definitely usable and accessible, 
but not efficient or nice.
Matthew


On Sep 16, 2022, at 8:27 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:


Definitely all good things. I sure wish Learning Ally hadn't redone it's web 
site when they were no longer Recordings for the Blind, and made getting boks 
so arduous. I rarely use them anymore. Are they up to date on thelatest texts 
books, etc? Is anyone here still enjoying their many offereings?
   Deidre
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
 
I particularly like the idea of being able to download directly from the search 
results.  Sometimes, I want to download a book immediately, not put it on the 
wish list and then download it.
The improved search results will also be welcome.
 
 
 
Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
 
   BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do already but 
some of the added flexibility is  nice.
 
   Deidre
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
 
>From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is not 
>available yet.
The email below is from BARD Support.
 
Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0
We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD Mobile for 
iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced by a new and powerful 
search engine that has the following abilities:
"  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.
"  Search for either braille or audio content.
"  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.
"  Search for items in the Music collection, including music 
appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.
"  Access all the options available from books in your wish list, 
Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the search 
results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in the same series.
"  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without 
quotation marks and get reliable results.
"  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get reliable 
results.
"  Enter multiple types of information in a Keyword search, such as 
part of a title and an author's last name or a title and narrator's name, and 
get reliable results.
"  Change the type of search after you conduct the original search.
"  Sort search results by title, author, or latest (the publication 
date).
To conduct a search, choose the Search option at the top of the Get Books 
screen, just above Wish List. Keyword is the default search type, and Audio is 
the default format. Change these settings if you like, type or dictate search 
terms in the search field, and choose Go or Search. To change the format or 
type of search from the Search Results page, select the search field at the 
top; all the options on the original search page are now available. To sort the 
search results, choose Title, Author, or Latest. To access options such as 
Download and viewing other books by the same author with VoiceOver, touch the 
title of interest, flick up or down to the desired choice, and double-tap. If 
you don't use VoiceOver, select the More info button to the right of the title, 
and then choose either Download, Add to Wish List, or More Actions.
Additionally, Version 2.0 fixes problems with:
"  Rewind controls skipping further than intended.
"  Side loading books.
"  Downloading and reading non-ASCII foreign language book titles.
The update should be available by Friday, September 23rd. We hope you enjoy it.
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RE: How useful to blind users is the Lidar sensor?

[Richard Turner]

It has been marginally useful for some things, but with iOS 16 and the door 
detection feature, it should become more useful for people who travel where 
they need to find a door into a building or an office.

I think GoodMaps Explore is beginning to incorporate it.

The Image description in the Magnifier now even recognizes light switches on 
the wall.  If you go to hotels much, this could be useful as well.
Now, Door, image, and people detection may not need LIDAR unless you want to 
know how far away the item is; but I'm not sure since I only have the 13 pro, 
so I cannot test on something without LIDAR.

Seeing AI and other apps use it, but their image database is pretty small.

HTH,


Richard
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礪

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How useful to blind users is the Lidar sensor?

Hi listers,
I can imagine that the Lidar sensor on the iPhone has great accessibility 
potentials. If there is any reason for me to have the urge to upgrade from XR 
to 14 pro is to have lidar on my phone. For those of you who have phones with 
lidar, how useful this has been so far? I am very curious.
I hope to hear your opinions on the subject.
Cheers

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RE: I O S 16.0

[Noe Villeda]

Thank you for that.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 16.0

 

Apple Accessibility: accessibil...@apple.com  

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 16.0

 

Thanks, do you have an email I can report this to?

 

 

 

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davycupp...@gmail.com  
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 16.0

 

Then please do report this to Apple Accessibility!

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Noe Villeda
Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2022 14:30
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Onderwerp: I O S 16.0

 

I have an iPhone 10r and I’ve noticed the following when listening to music on 
the iPhone.

 

If the screen is locked, and I pause the song, before, I could swipe down to 
adjust the track position to 0 seconds to back to the beginning of the song.

 

With I O S 16, you can no longer scroll down to adjust the track position, when 
the song is paused.

 

Does anyone know of a workaround?

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[deidreandlouise]

Definitely all good things. I sure wish Learning Ally hadn't redone it's web 
site when they were no longer Recordings for the Blind, and made getting boks 
so arduous. I rarely use them anymore. Are they up to date on thelatest texts 
books, etc? Is anyone here still enjoying their many offereings?

   Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

I particularly like the idea of being able to download directly from the search 
results.  Sometimes, I want to download a book immediately, not put it on the 
wish list and then download it.

The improved search results will also be welcome.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com  
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

   BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do already but 
some of the added flexibility is  nice.

 

   Deidre

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

>From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is not 
>available yet.

The email below is from BARD Support.

 

Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0

We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD Mobile for 
iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced by a new and powerful 
search engine that has the following abilities:

"  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.

"  Search for either braille or audio content.

"  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.

"  Search for items in the Music collection, including music 
appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.

"  Access all the options available from books in your wish list, 
Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the search 
results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in the same series.

"  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without 
quotation marks and get reliable results. 

"  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get reliable 
results.

"  Enter multiple types of information in a Keyword search, such as 
part of a title and an author's last name or a title and narrator's name, and 
get reliable results.

"  Change the type of search after you conduct the original search.

"  Sort search results by title, author, or latest (the publication 
date).

To conduct a search, choose the Search option at the top of the Get Books 
screen, just above Wish List. Keyword is the default search type, and Audio is 
the default format. Change these settings if you like, type or dictate search 
terms in the search field, and choose Go or Search. To change the format or 
type of search from the Search Results page, select the search field at the 
top; all the options on the original search page are now available. To sort the 
search results, choose Title, Author, or Latest. To access options such as 
Download and viewing other books by the same author with VoiceOver, touch the 
title of interest, flick up or down to the desired choice, and double-tap. If 
you don't use VoiceOver, select the More info button to the right of the title, 
and then choose either Download, Add to Wish List, or More Actions.

Additionally, Version 2.0 fixes problems with:

"  Rewind controls skipping further than intended.

"  Side loading books.

"  Downloading and reading non-ASCII foreign language book titles.

The update should be available by Friday, September 23rd. We hope you enjoy it.

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How useful to blind users is the Lidar sensor?

[Cris Ali]

Hi listers,
I can imagine that the Lidar sensor on the iPhone has great accessibility 
potentials. If there is any reason for me to have the urge to upgrade from XR 
to 14 pro is to have lidar on my phone. For those of you who have phones with 
lidar, how useful this has been so far? I am very curious.
I hope to hear your opinions on the subject.
Cheers

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RE: I O S 16.0

[Richard Turner]

Apple Accessibility: accessibil...@apple.com  

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 16.0

 

Thanks, do you have an email I can report this to?

 

 

 

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davycupp...@gmail.com  
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 16.0

 

Then please do report this to Apple Accessibility!

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Noe Villeda
Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2022 14:30
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Onderwerp: I O S 16.0

 

I have an iPhone 10r and I’ve noticed the following when listening to music on 
the iPhone.

 

If the screen is locked, and I pause the song, before, I could swipe down to 
adjust the track position to 0 seconds to back to the beginning of the song.

 

With I O S 16, you can no longer scroll down to adjust the track position, when 
the song is paused.

 

Does anyone know of a workaround?

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: I O S 16.0

[Noe Villeda]

Thanks, do you have an email I can report this to?

 

 

 

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davycupp...@gmail.com
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 16.0

 

Then please do report this to Apple Accessibility!

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Noe Villeda
Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2022 14:30
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: I O S 16.0

 

I have an iPhone 10r and I’ve noticed the following when listening to music on 
the iPhone.

 

If the screen is locked, and I pause the song, before, I could swipe down to 
adjust the track position to 0 seconds to back to the beginning of the song.

 

With I O S 16, you can no longer scroll down to adjust the track position, when 
the song is paused.

 

Does anyone know of a workaround?

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Major problem after updating to 16

[Richard Turner]

I agree, app developers have had several months to get their apps ready for iOS 
16.  There is no excuse other than laziness on the behalf of the app developer.



Richard
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davycupp...@gmail.com
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Subject: RE: Major problem after updating to 16

Please do not blame Apple for that, just blame your bank and tell them to make 
their app accessible!
Davy 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Terri Stimmel
Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2022 14:13
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Major problem after updating to 16

Hello everyone,

I updated my iPhone 12 Mini yesterday, to IOS 16. It all went very smoothly for 
me, which I am very thankful for. I haven't really ran into any problems.
Such as, the different bugs I have read about.

However, I just discovered a huge problem, and I don't know if there is 
anything I can do about it.

My banking App is now not as accessible. I can see my accounts, and what money 
is available.

However, when I go into an account to view the transactions, I get a lot of 
different images, and words such as coupon, and other words. None of it makes 
much sense, in all honesty.

  I tried turning on screen recognition to see if this would make much of a 
difference. I could then see some of the transactions. But this didn't seem to 
happen consistently. Also, everything kind of seem ran together.

There are tabs at the bottom of the screen. I can still view these.

However, when I choose one, then all the buttons are images, and words again. 
This was nether the case before.

What can I do, if anything?

I will definitely reach out to Apple. As well as my bank.

But might anyone have any thoughts as to how I can possibly use the App, until 
it is back closer to the way it was?

This is rather frustrating. But even more, this is an App that I most 
definitely need to be able to use, with as much ease as possible.

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[Richard Turner]

I particularly like the idea of being able to download directly from the search 
results.  Sometimes, I want to download a book immediately, not put it on the 
wish list and then download it.

The improved search results will also be welcome.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

   BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do already but 
some of the added flexibility is  nice.

 

   Deidre

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

>From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is not 
>available yet.

The email below is from BARD Support.

 

Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0

We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD Mobile for 
iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced by a new and powerful 
search engine that has the following abilities:

"  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.

"  Search for either braille or audio content.

"  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.

"  Search for items in the Music collection, including music 
appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.

"  Access all the options available from books in your wish list, 
Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the search 
results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in the same series.

"  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without 
quotation marks and get reliable results. 

"  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get reliable 
results.

"  Enter multiple types of information in a Keyword search, such as 
part of a title and an author's last name or a title and narrator's name, and 
get reliable results.

"  Change the type of search after you conduct the original search.

"  Sort search results by title, author, or latest (the publication 
date).

To conduct a search, choose the Search option at the top of the Get Books 
screen, just above Wish List. Keyword is the default search type, and Audio is 
the default format. Change these settings if you like, type or dictate search 
terms in the search field, and choose Go or Search. To change the format or 
type of search from the Search Results page, select the search field at the 
top; all the options on the original search page are now available. To sort the 
search results, choose Title, Author, or Latest. To access options such as 
Download and viewing other books by the same author with VoiceOver, touch the 
title of interest, flick up or down to the desired choice, and double-tap. If 
you don't use VoiceOver, select the More info button to the right of the title, 
and then choose either Download, Add to Wish List, or More Actions.

Additionally, Version 2.0 fixes problems with:

"  Rewind controls skipping further than intended.

"  Side loading books.

"  Downloading and reading non-ASCII foreign language book titles.

The update should be available by Friday, September 23rd. We hope you enjoy it.

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RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[deidreandlouise]

   BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do already but 
some of the added flexibility is  nice.

 

   Deidre

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

>From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is not 
>available yet.

The email below is from BARD Support.

 

Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0

We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD Mobile for 
iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced by a new and powerful 
search engine that has the following abilities:

"  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.

"  Search for either braille or audio content.

"  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.

"  Search for items in the Music collection, including music 
appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.

"  Access all the options available from books in your wish list, 
Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the search 
results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in the same series.

"  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without 
quotation marks and get reliable results. 

"  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get reliable 
results.

"  Enter multiple types of information in a Keyword search, such as 
part of a title and an author's last name or a title and narrator's name, and 
get reliable results.

"  Change the type of search after you conduct the original search.

"  Sort search results by title, author, or latest (the publication 
date).

To conduct a search, choose the Search option at the top of the Get Books 
screen, just above Wish List. Keyword is the default search type, and Audio is 
the default format. Change these settings if you like, type or dictate search 
terms in the search field, and choose Go or Search. To change the format or 
type of search from the Search Results page, select the search field at the 
top; all the options on the original search page are now available. To sort the 
search results, choose Title, Author, or Latest. To access options such as 
Download and viewing other books by the same author with VoiceOver, touch the 
title of interest, flick up or down to the desired choice, and double-tap. If 
you don't use VoiceOver, select the More info button to the right of the title, 
and then choose either Download, Add to Wish List, or More Actions.

Additionally, Version 2.0 fixes problems with:

"  Rewind controls skipping further than intended.

"  Side loading books.

"  Downloading and reading non-ASCII foreign language book titles.

The update should be available by Friday, September 23rd. We hope you enjoy it.

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BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[Richard Turner]

>From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is not 
>available yet.

The email below is from BARD Support.

 

Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0

We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD Mobile for 
iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced by a new and powerful 
search engine that has the following abilities:

"  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.

"  Search for either braille or audio content.

"  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.

"  Search for items in the Music collection, including music 
appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.

"  Access all the options available from books in your wish list, 
Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the search 
results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in the same series.

"  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without 
quotation marks and get reliable results. 

"  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get reliable 
results.

"  Enter multiple types of information in a Keyword search, such as 
part of a title and an author's last name or a title and narrator's name, and 
get reliable results.

"  Change the type of search after you conduct the original search.

"  Sort search results by title, author, or latest (the publication 
date).

To conduct a search, choose the Search option at the top of the Get Books 
screen, just above Wish List. Keyword is the default search type, and Audio is 
the default format. Change these settings if you like, type or dictate search 
terms in the search field, and choose Go or Search. To change the format or 
type of search from the Search Results page, select the search field at the 
top; all the options on the original search page are now available. To sort the 
search results, choose Title, Author, or Latest. To access options such as 
Download and viewing other books by the same author with VoiceOver, touch the 
title of interest, flick up or down to the desired choice, and double-tap. If 
you don't use VoiceOver, select the More info button to the right of the title, 
and then choose either Download, Add to Wish List, or More Actions.

Additionally, Version 2.0 fixes problems with:

"  Rewind controls skipping further than intended.

"  Side loading books.

"  Downloading and reading non-ASCII foreign language book titles.

The update should be available by Friday, September 23rd. We hope you enjoy it.

 

The BARD Support Team

Send comments, questions, or concerns to nlsdownl...@loc.gov 
 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

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RE: I O S 16.0

[davycuppens]

Then please do report this to Apple Accessibility!

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Noe Villeda
Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2022 14:30
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: I O S 16.0

 

I have an iPhone 10r and I’ve noticed the following when listening to music on 
the iPhone.

 

If the screen is locked, and I pause the song, before, I could swipe down to 
adjust the track position to 0 seconds to back to the beginning of the song.

 

With I O S 16, you can no longer scroll down to adjust the track position, when 
the song is paused.

 

Does anyone know of a workaround?

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Major problem after updating to 16

[davycuppens]

Please do not blame Apple for that, just blame your bank and tell them to make 
their app accessible!
Davy 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Terri Stimmel
Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2022 14:13
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Major problem after updating to 16

Hello everyone,

I updated my iPhone 12 Mini yesterday, to IOS 16. It all went very smoothly for 
me, which I am very thankful for. I haven't really ran into any problems.
Such as, the different bugs I have read about.

However, I just discovered a huge problem, and I don't know if there is 
anything I can do about it.

My banking App is now not as accessible. I can see my accounts, and what money 
is available.

However, when I go into an account to view the transactions, I get a lot of 
different images, and words such as coupon, and other words. None of it makes 
much sense, in all honesty.

  I tried turning on screen recognition to see if this would make much of a 
difference. I could then see some of the transactions. But this didn't seem to 
happen consistently. Also, everything kind of seem ran together.

There are tabs at the bottom of the screen. I can still view these.

However, when I choose one, then all the buttons are images, and words again. 
This was nether the case before.

What can I do, if anything?

I will definitely reach out to Apple. As well as my bank.

But might anyone have any thoughts as to how I can possibly use the App, until 
it is back closer to the way it was?

This is rather frustrating. But even more, this is an App that I most 
definitely need to be able to use, with as much ease as possible.

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: CPAP

[michv]

Hi I am not shure of any that have a app to work with them. The one that I have 
works by having buttons on the frunt of it. It  has 3 different buttons one is 
a round one that terns it on and off and the others are 3 buttons along the 
boddem below that first button and the water go’s in at the top. The info for 
it is as follows. Fisher Paykel helthcair that is the company. I hope this 
helps. From Mich. 

 

 

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Logan
Sent: September 16, 2022 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: CPAP

 

Does anyone know if there are particular CPAP machines that have apps for the 
iPhone that will control the system .. and of course are accessible.  I am 
needing to get a new system .. and they now seem to all have LCDs and limited 
physical buttons like the older systems.  Was hoping to find one that will work 
with an app so that it can be effectively used.  Any help as always is 
appreciated.

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RE: CPAP

[Richard Turner]

I have the Resmed C-PAP machine and their app will give you the readings each 
morning, but you cannot make adjustments other than on the machine.  

But, after the doctor set it up, I haven’t had to change it other than to try a 
slightly different airflow or humidity, and my sighted wife, who has the same 
machine, could do that.

My impression is they are all like this now.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: CPAP

 

Does anyone know if there are particular CPAP machines that have apps for the 
iPhone that will control the system .. and of course are accessible.  I am 
needing to get a new system .. and they now seem to all have LCDs and limited 
physical buttons like the older systems.  Was hoping to find one that will work 
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CPAP

[Peter Logan]

Does anyone know if there are particular CPAP machines that have apps for
the iPhone that will control the system .. and of course are accessible.  I
am needing to get a new system .. and they now seem to all have LCDs and
limited physical buttons like the older systems.  Was hoping to find one
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RE: Arabic Keyboard Doesn't Come Up?

[Fazil M.]

Got it, thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Arabic Keyboard Doesn't Come Up?

 

Are you sure you are looking in the right place? To bring up the emoji keyboard 
you have to find the "Emoji" button, you cannot select it using the button for 
"next keyboard"/.

Visually the emoji button is between Numbers and the Spacebar, the "next 
keyboard" button is below numbers sort of by itself on the left whereas on the 
right on the very bottom is "Dictate".

Just above from left to right is "Numbers", "Emoji", Space" and "Return".

 

T 

 

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Fazil M.
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Subject: Arabic Keyboard Doesn't Come Up?

 

Hi, Group.

In my iPhone 8 and 12, I have added 3 keyboards; Emogis, Arabic and English US.

It works just fine in iPhone8 but Arabic Keyboard does not show up in iPhone12.

How can I fix this, please?

Thanks!

 

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RE: automatic reminders or calendars

[Christopher Chaltain]

One option is the Microsoft To Do app. For each task you can set a due date and 
a reminder day and time. It won't show up as an event on your calendar though.

I remember doing something similar to this with my Google calendar on line. You 
could set different reminders such as an email the day before or an alert 15 
minutes before a meeting, with quite a few other options. If this meets your 
needs, you may want to check out the Google Calendar app.

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Subject: automatic reminders or calendars

Hello Good People,
Looking for a calendar, or reminder app, that will automatically prompt that 
there is a task to be acomplished.
for example, I enter an apointment in the calendar, and the day before, at a 
specific time, I would like the system to automatically alert me to the event 
for next day.
If I haven't exxplained things too well, accept my apologies.
This used to be an onboard feature to an earlier samsung android phone I used 
to run.

Thanks.

Joe



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Re: Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

[Jennie Facer]

Maybe you could go into the display and brightness settings and reactivate the autolock feature by selecting a different time, then back to the original time you set. I have my 13 pro max on never and I haven't had this problem. I'm not saying you haven't experienced this, but I have not as of yet.JennJenn and KumiOn Sep 16, 2022, at 4:32 AM, Gezim Rexha  wrote:Hi list, After I upgraded to iOS 16.0, my iPhone screen gets locked too quickly, even when it is on, let me put it like that, read all mode. Fore example, if I am reading a Facebook post, screen gets locked before Voiceover has finished reading. Before the upgrade, screen would get locked according to the time set, only when the iPhone was not active. I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max. With best wishes,Gezim



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Re: automatic reminders or calendars

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Joe,

Are you talking about having the phone alert you a day before your event? If 
this is the case, then when you create an event in the main calendar app, there 
is a section that you can add new alerts to. Please restate if this is not what 
you were looking for. Thanks.

Jenn 

Jenn and Kumi

> On Sep 16, 2022, at 4:52 AM, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello Good People,
> Looking for a calendar, or reminder app, that will automatically prompt
> that there is a task to be acomplished.
> for example, I enter an apointment in the calendar, and the day before,
> at a specific time, I would like the system to automatically alert me to
> the event for next day.
> If I haven't exxplained things too well, accept my apologies.
> This used to be an onboard feature to an earlier samsung android phone I
> used to run.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
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RE: Re: iphone app to check blood pressure

[Ann Byrne]

A great thing about the qardio is that it tracks 
your blood pressure and you can send the data to 
yourself to keep or to another person.  before I 
go to the doc I print the last six months of readings so he can see the trends.

At 07:59 PM 9/15/2022, you wrote:

An app? Whatever happened to medical privacy?


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com;Louise Peyton 
Subject: Re: iphone app to check blood pressure


Are you kidding me I'd love that! Seriously I'd love that! Have you ever
experienced a blood pressure cuff that squeezed again before it had even
completely let up because there was an error like you had it too low on
your arm or something? That's happened to me numerous times, but the
last time it did that, it squeezed so hard and it seemed to take a long
time before it stopped, and I don't think it's considered claustrophobia
because when you're claustrophobic, you feel scared in a confined space,
but I felt like I would never get my arm out ever again. I got so scared
my mom had to come over and press on the power button I guess it is, so
the air would go out and the cuff would let up. If there would be an
app, that would be fantastic! Please, let me know! Thanks.
Maria On 9/15/2022 6:43 PM, Louise Peyton wrote:
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> Hello, all:
>
> Is there an app I can use with an IPhone that would help check blood
> pressure.  I found two talking blood pressure machines which were not
> as accurate as my primary care doctor's whose monitor doesn't speak
> audibly. This is quite frustrating since my blood pressure can fluctuate.
>
> The other question is would I need to purchase an Apple watch or just
> use some type of app strictly with the phone?  Thanks in advance.
>
> Louise
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automatic reminders or calendars

[Joe Paton]

Hello Good People,
Looking for a calendar, or reminder app, that will automatically prompt
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Screen locks too quickly after upgrade

[Gezim Rexha]

Hi list,

 

After I upgraded to iOS 16.0, my iPhone screen gets locked too quickly, even
when it is on, let me put it like that, read all mode. Fore example, if I am
reading a Facebook post, screen gets locked before Voiceover has finished
reading.

 

Before the upgrade, screen would get locked according to the time set, only
when the iPhone was not active.

 

I am using iPhone 12 Pro Max.

 

With best wishes,

Gezim

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facetime audio

[Doc wright]

when running FTA I can slide up to close the screen but it doesn't 
truely close. At the top of the screen FTA is still there.


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