Re: Apple watch group

[Robert Doc Wright]

there is an organization that helps with all things Apple. they are IBug 
today

www.ibugtoday.org

- Original Message - 
From: "'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:17 AM
Subject: Apple watch group


Hi,

I took the plunge and got a refurbished series 7.  I’ve listened to all the 
videos on Apple Vis and a good many videos on YouTube but I need access to 
more info.  I know others asked about an Apple Watch user group but I can’t 
find the answers.  I sure would appreciate if someone could let me know how 
to find/join them.



Thanks,


Kim

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RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

[M. Taylor]

Janet,

I am so glad that all is working correctly.

As for the volume issue?  I have made the same mistake, time and time again.  
You are definitely not an idiot.

It sounds as though you reached a very patient and caring Apple rep to whom you 
mattered.  I am so glad for you.

Thank you for sharing your experience.  We have all learned something new about 
Face ID.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Everyone, 
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!  

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!  

Janet   
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Re: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

[Feliciano Godoy]

Glad to hear you figured it out and nothing is wrong with your device.

Feliciano
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On Jan 9, 2023, at 6:03 PM, janet gross  wrote:


Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

Janet

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RE: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Janet, not everybody has the same sense of direction and for some blind people 
it is really difficult o look at something, to walk in a reasonably straight 
line and so on.
I think maybe the Apple rep had some experience with this and found that asking 
people to hold the phone this way and looking down was the best way to get them 
to look the right way.
I just set up my iPhone 13 Pro last week and for me it was fine to  hold the 
camera more or less at arms length, of course I did have my elbow bent a bit so 
the phone wasn't too far away, but this worked fine for me. I have been blind 
for a long time now, I am 55 and lost my sight in an accident when I was 16, 
but I try to make an effort to look at people when I speak to them and I have 
had conversations with customers at my store who didn't know me and who never 
realized for the first minute or two that I couldn't see.
It's good Apple Accessibility could help and hopefully you feel a bit less mad 
at iOS 16.2 since it obviously turned out that it was not the culpret 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn’t have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

Janet
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Face ID, and Bluetooth Speacker Resolved.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,
I spent some time on the phone today with Apple Support.  I finally got to 
enable Face ID.  What I had to do was hold the phone down close to my lap, and 
holed the phone a little toward the left, and look down at the phone, and then 
Voiceover started reading to me the directions which way to move my head!  I 
was holding the phone strait  out in front of my face, as I usually did to 
enable Face ID, but not this time.  I found this method to be quite unusual, 
but it worked!  The Apple rep and I shared screens, so he could tell me where 
to put the phone.  The Apple rep said that is how the camera is seeing my face. 
 I have to admit, I wouldn't have ever thought of that!  Now, about my Bose 
Speaker not connecting to Apple Music.  The rep and I did just about everything 
we could think of, we removed the speaker from the phone, reconnected the phone 
back to Bluetooth, checked allThe Bluetooth settings, and nothing would 
work, so then the Apple rep said hey Janet did you check the volume buttons on 
the side of your phone, I said oh ok I will check them, and I pressed the up 
volume button, and sure enough, the Bose Speaker was playing the Apple Music!  
Wow, you talk about feeling like an idiot, I sure did!  The Apple rep and I 
both started laughing!  What a idiot I felt like!

Thank you all so much, as it is greatly so appreciated!

Janet

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RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Joshua , 
Thank you for your thoughts!  

Janet  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 3:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Janet.  I have no idea why you are having so many problems with IOS 16.2.

On 1/9/23, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> Hi Janet,
> Another thing
>
> To consider is checking if there’s new firmware update for your 
> speaker. I know you can do this for compatible Bose devices via Bose 
> connect app on iPhone. Other than that I imagine you removed the 
> device from your bluetooth settings and repaired it already.
> Feliciano
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> On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:23 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Feliciano,
> I’ve checked all those Bluetooth settings, and all is well.  I’ve used 
> this Bose Speaker with Apple Music for at least 5 years with no 
> problem, until I updated to 16.2, in which I  regret!  I’ve signed out 
> of the Apple Music App, and signed back in with no different results.  
> I completely understand minor bugs, minor changes, but when it gets to 
> the point of having to erase your entire phone, and still the phone 
> doesn’t work like it should, there is something seriously wrong!
>
> Janet
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Janet,
> I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. 
> First, I would check the setting that your speaker is set as via 
> Bluetooth settings and more info for your speaker. Set that device to 
> speaker as voiceover can behave differently if it’s set to another setting.
> Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your 
> rotor as your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many 
> prefer voiceover speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You 
> can add audio destination via your settings- Settings, accessibility, 
> voiceover followed by rotor.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Feliciano
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to 
> slip away before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas 
> to rectify my Apple Music and Bose Speaker?
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as 
> well as with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple 
> Music will play on the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it 
> takes forever to play one song after the other, and I’ve done this for 
> many years.  I had Apple music playing yesterday from one of my play 
> list with my Bose Speaker, and while it didn’t work all that well, it 
> did finally work, and I had Apple Music playing a few hours ago, but 
> now my Bose Speaker says it is connected, but nothing comes through 
> the speaker.  One problem after the other with this phone.
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RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't ignore what people say on lists, but I realize that people are more 
likely to complain about a bad experience then they are to let everyone know 
that it went OK. I put a lot of weight on the reports from AppleVis and compare 
them to how I use my iPhone. I also remember that upgrading means I can take 
advantage of new features, get security patches and call Apple for support. IOS 
isn't like Windows where older version will still be supported and get security 
fixes. I still take into account what people say on lists like this, but I 
balance it against outer information.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

I check to see what people on lists say about updates before updating, have 
skipped one or two. I am skipping 16.2; I hear too many minuses about it. I'll 
see what people say about the next one, and if it sounds safe enough, I'll skip 
16.2. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

hello to all,

I,  have an iPhone 12 pro Max. I personally would not  update iOS  updating iOS 
for any reason, unless you require your phone in education and/or employment 
settings. this goes for all technology. do not upgrade to a major opperating 
system, or update to a miner one, unless your workplace or educational 
institution   has compatibility requirements to be running the latest software. 
for example: I bought windows 11 enterprize for this exact reason, and because 
the temptation  to beta test was presented, back as a windows insider i am. 
now, when the next major release of windows 11 ships, i will be automaticly 
unenrolled from the windows insider program, as my settings are such. that is 
my personal opinion after a sirious bug in iOS forst me to reconsider beta 
testing. the bug was, VoiceOver would work as it always does. then it would 
stop. I had an iPhone SE, second generation at the time, it would get very hot, 
it would freeze, and VoiceOver would not  work. as i was beta testing, bugs are 
to be expected. i broke my NDA, as another bug with Bluetooth keyboard access, 
which was it would not allow me to accept keyboard feedback   to VoiceOver, so 
called AppleCare accessibility support i did. the bug was, so sirious that the 
only way to get the phone working, was to literally , call, 911. I did that 
twice, speaking with dispatchers,(who asked me,if i could speak freely to them 
now)  and it was finally fixt in iOS 15.2 developer beta four, as i had a 
developer program membership, at that time. I decided to never beta test, on my 
primary device again! 

so i gave the SE to a friend who had an android phone which was unusible, do to 
no sensativity in his fingers for a touchscreen, and no reliable keyboard 
access. i took a $983.00 loss, as the phone was 1067.20, with an eighteen 
dollar case. he lives in a nurcing home, and thus, cannot afford a new iPhone. 
so that’s that. I don’t plan to beta test in the near term, but things might 
turn in another direction … who knows. as far as Face ID, i too am struggling 
with it! got a trusted family member to help set it up, and the tip i got from 
Apple, is to make sure your nose is in the centre. when i was doing the hed 
movements, i was told by that family member, what to do, and was guided 
physically where to position my hed. it is possible however, it takes time and 
pations. now, i hope you have success, and if an update or upgrade comes, do 
not take it! I did, update my ChromeBook, and Chromevox, the chrome OS screen 
reader, was changed majorly. so updates can brake things, and as screen reader, 
or other acccessibility users, need stability. imagine, you’re in a meeting for 
work. and an update to Chrome OS, or windows, is automaticly installed, as they 
always are. you expect JAWS, ChromeVox, NVDA, or VoiceOver to work, and that 
meeding is highly important to keeping your job! if something goes wrong in the 
moment, updates install, and because of one, you are fired, now that would be 
catastrophic! upgrades and updates are not always what they are cracked up to 
be! Eloquence in iOS, still has a sirious bug where it does not read chunks of 
documents, emails, or any other large peace of text. it siriously inhibits  my 
workflow, to the point of not using it, and having to switch to another 
sinthasizer. eSpeak fits that bill nicely! it’s technicly a beta, but not as 
major as an entire opperating system, and provides bennifits nothing else comes 
close to having! i signed up for beta testing weather gods, but that is 
valuable  feedback i can send, and as a perk, everything is free! actually all 
iOS and 

RE: QR Code Scanner

[Sieghard Weitzel]

In Settings > Camera the item is "Scan QR Code" and it will say "on" or "off".
It should be on by default.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 1:07 PM
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The easiest, in my opinion, is to go to settings, control center, and make sure 
it is added and in the early part of the list of apps.
That way, you can bring up the control center, and select Code Scanner.
The other way is to go into settings, camera, and ma'e sure recognize codes or 
whatever the exact phrase is, has been checked.
Then you can open the camera and point it at the code and it should work.
You may have to hit something else in there, not sure.
HTH,



Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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On Jan 9, 2023, at 12:57 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
How do I access the QR code scanner that is part of IOS?

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RE: QR Code Scanner

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You don't have to be that close, I find it's easier to just put the phone on 
the page or packaging where the QR code is located and then lift it up and 
straight off the page/item slowly. Stop every so often to see if something 
happens.

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Subject: Re: QR Code Scanner

Another question: How do you scan them? I assume they are like bar codes, in 
that you have a general idea where they might be, then move the phone around 
hoping to hit it. Does it vibrate or beep to let you know when you hit it. 
Finally, I have heard in tv comercials where they want you to scan the qr code. 
How close does one need to be before the phone has some chance of finding it?

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Jan 9, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
The easiest, in my opinion, is to go to settings, control center, and make 
sure it is added and in the early part of the list of apps.
That way, you can bring up the control center, and select Code Scanner.
The other way is to go into settings, camera, and ma'e sure recognize codes or 
whatever the exact phrase is, has been checked.
Then you can open the camera and point it at the code and it should work.
You may have to hit something else in there, not sure.
HTH,



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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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How do I access the QR code scanner that is part of IOS?

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RE: IOS Shortcuts Question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just thought I point out that if you don't get an answer you can always call 
Apple Accessibility and ask if they can help with it.

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Hi everyone,

I have a question for someone who is good at creating shortcuts. Can you have a 
shortcut created where a specified app opens when an alarm goes off

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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RE: QR Code Scanner

[Richard Turner]

You don’t have to “scan” them.

If the camera is pointed at the QR code, it is automatically recognized.  Much 
easier than dealing with bar codes.

You can be many feet from the TV to capture a QR code.  

 

 

Like I said in a previous post, using the Code Scanner app in the Control 
Center works the smoothest.

Open the control center, double tap on code scanner, point the camera at the QR 
code, like I say, you don’t have to have it perfectly located like a bar code, 
and if the QR code has a link, you will be taken to the link, etc.

 

HTH,

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 2:29 PM
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Subject: Re: QR Code Scanner

 

Another question: How do you scan them? I assume they are like bar codes, in 
that you have a general idea where they might be, then move the phone around 
hoping to hit it. Does it vibrate or beep to let you know when you hit it. 
Finally, I have heard in tv comercials where they want you to scan the qr code. 
How close does one need to be before the phone has some chance of finding it? 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3


On Jan 9, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

The easiest, in my opinion, is to go to settings, control center, and make 
sure it is added and in the early part of the list of apps.

That way, you can bring up the control center, and select Code Scanner.

The other way is to go into settings, camera, and ma'e sure recognize codes or 
whatever the exact phrase is, has been checked.

Then you can open the camera and point it at the code and it should work.

You may have to hit something else in there, not sure.

HTH,

 

 

 

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





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How do I access the QR code scanner that is part of IOS?

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IOS Shortcuts Question

[joedinero68]

Hi everyone,

 

I have a question for someone who is good at creating shortcuts. Can you have a 
shortcut created where a specified app opens when an alarm goes off

 

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

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Re: QR Code Scanner

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Another question: How do you scan them? I assume they are like bar codes, in that you have a general idea where they might be, then move the phone around hoping to hit it. Does it vibrate or beep to let you know when you hit it. Finally, I have heard in tv comercials where they want you to scan the qr code. How close does one need to be before the phone has some chance of finding it? Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Jan 9, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:The easiest, in my opinion, is to go to settings, control center, and make sure it is added and in the early part of the list of apps.That way, you can bring up the control center, and select Code Scanner.The other way is to go into settings, camera, and ma'e sure recognize codes or whatever the exact phrase is, has been checked.Then you can open the camera and point it at the code and it should work.You may have to hit something else in there, not sure.HTH,Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jan 9, 2023, at 12:57 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:How do I access the QR code scanner that is part of IOS?Andy-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011701d9246c%24f12cc010%240b01a8c0%40AndyPC.



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Re: is an iPhone pencil any use to someone with no vision

[Richard Turner]

In my opinion; no.
They are for drawing and/or handwriting. 
Even with VoiceOver on, I can think of no way to use one that could possibly 
justify the price.
If you are good at handwriting, that can be added to the rotor and done with 
your finger tip, or the old style stylus which has the kind of rubberized tip 
that is conductive like your finger tip.
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> On Jan 9, 2023, at 1:08 PM, Jen .  wrote:
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> Hi,
> I just received an iPad ninth generation for Christmas and in going through 
> all the different menus I noticed it had something about iPencil  so I am 
> curious are they of any used to someone with no vision? If so, what would you 
> use an eye pencil for.
> Thanks for any help.
> Jen
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is an iPhone pencil any use to someone with no vision

[Jen .]

Hi,
I just received an iPad ninth generation for Christmas and in going through all 
the different menus I noticed it had something about iPencil  so I am curious 
are they of any used to someone with no vision? If so, what would you use an 
eye pencil for.
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Re: QR Code Scanner

[Richard Turner]

The easiest, in my opinion, is to go to settings, control center, and make sure 
it is added and in the early part of the list of apps.
That way, you can bring up the control center, and select Code Scanner.
The other way is to go into settings, camera, and ma'e sure recognize codes or 
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Then you can open the camera and point it at the code and it should work.
You may have to hit something else in there, not sure.
HTH,




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Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

[Richard Turner]

all this was several months ago; not terribly recent.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jan 9, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:Wow. I’ve  been really really out of the loop. The past six or eights weeks have been crazy with work. My mailing list inbox is still a mess.Thanks for the quick summary. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Monday, January 9, 2023 11:19 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List In short yes.The drama was that Google decided that VIPhone list was sending out spam and blocked the list. Cara and Mark could not get them to undo that decision; so they created VIPhone2 and in not too terribly long of a time; poof, VIPhone began working again. So all those who had signed on with the new list now had two lists owned by Cara and moderated by Mark.Mark began posting all of his messages to both lists; so many of us were getting two copies ... I inquired which list had the most traffic and Mark said the original one did.I unsubscribed from VIPhone2.So now, as you can tell, VIPhone2 is basically dead.   Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com On Jan 9, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:Talk about being out of the loop and behind on emails. I wasn't even aware of a second/back up list. Was there some drama?Cristóbal-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Monday, January 9, 2023 7:53 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing ListFazil,Mark wrote as follows:Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, I will only post to the original ViPhone mailing list.So, if you have not yet done so, you may subscribe to the original V iPhone group by sending an email to:viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.comAlso, I am no longer approving requests to join the ViPhone 2 mailing list.If, for some reason, the primary ViPhone mailing list stops working, then we will, once again, activate ViPhone 2.So if you look at the email header and see "From: viphone@googlegroups.com" all should be fine, otherwise do as Mark says and send an email to the address provided above.I never subscribed to the ViPhone 2 list, but I assume it will indicate in the "From" field that it is from the ViPhone 2  list.-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:38 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing ListDo I have to do anything on my end for this change to be effective, or it would be automatic?Thanks!-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor LynchSent: Sunday, January 08, 2023 6:50 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing ListThat's fine, thanks for the 'heads up'.On 1/9/2023 2:27 AM, M. Taylor wrote:Essentially, as far as I am concerned, the answer is, "Yes."  Please remember that I am referring only to the V iPhone 2, group, not the original list. Let's not make this more complicated than it has to be; okay? Mark -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor LynchSent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 5:16 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List Does this mean that the viphone2 list will be discontinued or paused for all members?  On 1/9/2023 12:17 AM, M. Taylor wrote:Hello Simon, The original V iPhone mailing list has been back  up and running for quite a while and it just doesn't make sense to keep using 2 groups for the same discussions. Mark -Original Message-From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A FogartySent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 4:02 PMTo: vipho...@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List Hi Mark, Can we have a reason as to your change back? I thought the former list had been killed off by the hosting providers. 

RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Wow. I’ve  been really really out of the loop. The past six or eights weeks 
have been crazy with work. My mailing list inbox is still a mess.

Thanks for the quick summary.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

 

In short yes.

The drama was that Google decided that VIPhone list was sending out spam and 
blocked the list. Cara and Mark could not get them to undo that decision; so 
they created VIPhone2 and in not too terribly long of a time; poof, VIPhone 
began working again. So all those who had signed on with the new list now had 
two lists owned by Cara and moderated by Mark.

Mark began posting all of his messages to both lists; so many of us were 
getting two copies ... I inquired which list had the most traffic and Mark said 
the original one did.

I unsubscribed from VIPhone2.

So now, as you can tell, VIPhone2 is basically dead.

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Jan 9, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Talk about being out of the loop and behind on emails. I wasn't even aware of 
a second/back up list. Was there some drama?

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

Fazil,

Mark wrote as follows:

Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, I will only post to the original ViPhone 
mailing list.
So, if you have not yet done so, you may subscribe to the original V iPhone 
group by sending an email to:
viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com  
Also, I am no longer approving requests to join the ViPhone 2 mailing list.
If, for some reason, the primary ViPhone mailing list stops working, then we 
will, once again, activate ViPhone 2.

So if you look at the email header and see "From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 " all should be fine, otherwise do as Mark 
says and send an email to the address provided above.
I never subscribed to the ViPhone 2 list, but I assume it will indicate in the 
"From" field that it is from the ViPhone 2  list.




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Fazil M.
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

Do I have to do anything on my end for this change to be effective, or it would 
be automatic?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2023 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

That's fine, thanks for the 'heads up'.


On 1/9/2023 2:27 AM, M. Taylor wrote:



Essentially, as far as I am concerned, the answer is, "Yes."  Please remember 
that I am referring only to the V iPhone 2, group, not the original list.

 

Let's not make this more complicated than it has to be; okay?

 

Mark

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch

Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 5:16 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

 

Does this mean that the viphone2 list will be discontinued or paused for all 
members?

 

 

On 1/9/2023 12:17 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Simon,

 

The original V iPhone mailing list has been back  up and running for quite a 
while and it just doesn't make sense to keep using 2 groups for the same 
discussions.

 

Mark

 

-Original Message-

From: vipho...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 4:02 PM

QR Code Scanner

[Andy Baracco]

How do I access the QR code scanner that is part of IOS?

Andy

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RE: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

[Carolyn]

I check to see what people on lists say about updates before updating, have 
skipped one or two. I am skipping 16.2; I hear too many minuses about it. I'll 
see what people say about the next one, and if it sounds safe enough, I'll skip 
16.2. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID and iOS 16.2 Help Please.. ease/

hello to all,

I,  have an iPhone 12 pro Max. I personally would not  update iOS  updating iOS 
for any reason, unless you require your phone in education and/or employment 
settings. this goes for all technology. do not upgrade to a major opperating 
system, or update to a miner one, unless your workplace or educational 
institution   has compatibility requirements to be running the latest software. 
for example: I bought windows 11 enterprize for this exact reason, and because 
the temptation  to beta test was presented, back as a windows insider i am. 
now, when the next major release of windows 11 ships, i will be automaticly 
unenrolled from the windows insider program, as my settings are such. that is 
my personal opinion after a sirious bug in iOS forst me to reconsider beta 
testing. the bug was, VoiceOver would work as it always does. then it would 
stop. I had an iPhone SE, second generation at the time, it would get very hot, 
it would freeze, and VoiceOver would not  work. as i was beta testing, bugs are 
to be expected. i broke my NDA, as another bug with Bluetooth keyboard access, 
which was it would not allow me to accept keyboard feedback   to VoiceOver, so 
called AppleCare accessibility support i did. the bug was, so sirious that the 
only way to get the phone working, was to literally , call, 911. I did that 
twice, speaking with dispatchers,(who asked me,if i could speak freely to them 
now)  and it was finally fixt in iOS 15.2 developer beta four, as i had a 
developer program membership, at that time. I decided to never beta test, on my 
primary device again! 

so i gave the SE to a friend who had an android phone which was unusible, do to 
no sensativity in his fingers for a touchscreen, and no reliable keyboard 
access. i took a $983.00 loss, as the phone was 1067.20, with an eighteen 
dollar case. he lives in a nurcing home, and thus, cannot afford a new iPhone. 
so that’s that. I don’t plan to beta test in the near term, but things might 
turn in another direction … who knows. as far as Face ID, i too am struggling 
with it! got a trusted family member to help set it up, and the tip i got from 
Apple, is to make sure your nose is in the centre. when i was doing the hed 
movements, i was told by that family member, what to do, and was guided 
physically where to position my hed. it is possible however, it takes time and 
pations. now, i hope you have success, and if an update or upgrade comes, do 
not take it! I did, update my ChromeBook, and Chromevox, the chrome OS screen 
reader, was changed majorly. so updates can brake things, and as screen reader, 
or other acccessibility users, need stability. imagine, you’re in a meeting for 
work. and an update to Chrome OS, or windows, is automaticly installed, as they 
always are. you expect JAWS, ChromeVox, NVDA, or VoiceOver to work, and that 
meeding is highly important to keeping your job! if something goes wrong in the 
moment, updates install, and because of one, you are fired, now that would be 
catastrophic! upgrades and updates are not always what they are cracked up to 
be! Eloquence in iOS, still has a sirious bug where it does not read chunks of 
documents, emails, or any other large peace of text. it siriously inhibits  my 
workflow, to the point of not using it, and having to switch to another 
sinthasizer. eSpeak fits that bill nicely! it’s technicly a beta, but not as 
major as an entire opperating system, and provides bennifits nothing else comes 
close to having! i signed up for beta testing weather gods, but that is 
valuable  feedback i can send, and as a perk, everything is free! actually all 
iOS and iPadOS app betas,as a condition of Apple’s beta testing app, 
TestFlight, it is a stipulation developers adhere to. so it’s not all bad, but 
never take an operating system for a spin in a beta cycle, unless you are a 
competent power user!  apps are fine, sometimes, but if you need one 
specifically   for a job or schooling, never beta test! and especially not on a 
daily driver! 
sincerely,
Daniel Angus MacDonald
  


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 8, 2023, at 7:56 PM, janet gross  
wrote:



 

Hi Everyone. 

I finally upgraded to iOS 16.2  from iOS 15.7 on my XR phone, and I had 
to erase the entire phone in order to get back my phone calls in the recent 
folder of the Phone App.  All that so far is fine.  Another problem I am now 
having is I can’t set up Face ID.  When I  try to set it 

RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

[Carolyn]

I like the wired ear pods too, Sieghard. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

I'd take a set of Airpods maybe if somebody gave them to me along with $20.
I hate having anything stuck inside my ear further than the wired Earpods, they 
happen to fit me great and I don't even have to push them in hard and they just 
stay in place.
I also wouldn't be caught dead spending the kind of money on two little things 
which only last 5 or 6 hours and which I am bound to loose sooner or later.
Now keep in mind that this is strictly my take, I know many of  you love them 
and that's fine, then of course if I did spend the money on them I'd also say I 
love them.
As for wearing something in bed when you most likely will fall asleep there is 
nothing better than those sleep headbands which have a set of very thin 
speakers on each side over your ear and a little control pod on  your forehead 
with 3 buttons for volume up/down and play/pause in the middle. Of course if 
you want to fall asleep to high fidelty music then these are not the right 
thing, but they are fine for audio books or, if you are into those sleep 
sounds, that would probably be just fine, but they are the most comfortable 
thing and I usually sleep on my side so I definitely know and I often wake up 
in the middle of the night with my Audible book happily playing and I then 
usually stop it, pull them off my head and thrown them on the side table. You 
can find them on Amazon, just make sure you do look for wireless ones because 
the original ones do have a 3.5mm cable and that of course is sucks. I think I 
paid around $30 Canadian for mine about 2 or 3 years ago and they still work 
great.
I also have an Aftershokz Open Com which I use in certain situations and 
another Bluetooth gadget I have is one of these around the neck speakers, they 
consist of a thick and relatively soft rubbery cable about as thick as your 
thumb and one each end is a speaker, one has the typical buttons to turn it 
on/off and for play/pause and volume up/down. I quite like using them at home 
when I am out in the summer in the garden or even while cooking, your audio is 
right there more or less in front of your shoulders and you can easily reach up 
and pause or change the volume.for cert But I just bought a new set of 
Lightning Earpods because they are still my preferred headset, there is no lag 
and for $24.99 Canadian I get surprisingly good sounding earbuds. I probably go 
through a pair a year, sometimes a bit longer, but as I said, inexpensive, good 
and when I don't need them I roll them up around my hand and stick them into my 
pocket.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2023 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Hello All,

I have long been a fan of Apple wired Ear Pods.  

I had to have my original beloved 8 Plus replaced, about a month prior to its 
warranty expiration because the audio function of the Lightening port went bad.

For the last 6-months or so, perhaps longer, while the Lightening port on my 
replacement 8 Plus still functioned as expected, it lost the ability to retain 
a cable, unassisted.  This is to say, when I hold the phone in portrait mode, 
perpendicular to the ground, any attached cable will fall out.  

I am certain that I was the blame for this as I used to frequently roll onto 
the phone, when sleeping; very often tangling  the cable with tension for hours 
at a time.  (How's that for too much information? (smile)).

My point, I am determined not to ruin the Lightening port on my 14.

With that in mind, I am doing my best to wing myself from the wired Ear Pods in 
favor of Apple Air Pods.

Even though I like Air Pods and they are definitely more convenient to use than 
the wired alternative, I still find myself reaching for the wired pair, more 
than anything else.

I was just wondering how many of you have gone completely wireless having all 
but abandoned the wired Ear Pods?

It is interesting because when I go to Best Buy, Target, Walmart, etc. I always 
see wired Ear Pods, with either the Lightening or audio connector, readily 
available.

All replies appreciated.

Mark


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Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

[Richard Turner]

In short yes.
The drama was that Google decided that VIPhone list was sending out spam and 
blocked the list. Cara and Mark could not get them to undo that decision; so 
they created VIPhone2 and in not too terribly long of a time; poof, VIPhone 
began working again. So all those who had signed on with the new list now had 
two lists owned by Cara and moderated by Mark.
Mark began posting all of his messages to both lists; so many of us were 
getting two copies ... I inquired which list had the most traffic and Mark said 
the original one did.
I unsubscribed from VIPhone2.
So now, as you can tell, VIPhone2 is basically dead.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Jan 9, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Talk about being out of the loop and behind on emails. I wasn't even aware 
> of a second/back up list. Was there some drama?
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 7:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
> January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List
> 
> Fazil,
> 
> Mark wrote as follows:
> 
> Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, I will only post to the original ViPhone 
> mailing list.
> So, if you have not yet done so, you may subscribe to the original V iPhone 
> group by sending an email to:
> viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com
> Also, I am no longer approving requests to join the ViPhone 2 mailing list.
> If, for some reason, the primary ViPhone mailing list stops working, then we 
> will, once again, activate ViPhone 2.
> 
> So if you look at the email header and see "From: viphone@googlegroups.com" 
> all should be fine, otherwise do as Mark says and send an email to the 
> address provided above.
> I never subscribed to the ViPhone 2 list, but I assume it will indicate in 
> the "From" field that it is from the ViPhone 2  list.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil 
> M.
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
> January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List
> 
> Do I have to do anything on my end for this change to be effective, or it 
> would be automatic?
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor 
> Lynch
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2023 6:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
> January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List
> 
> That's fine, thanks for the 'heads up'.
> 
> 
>> On 1/9/2023 2:27 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Essentially, as far as I am concerned, the answer is, "Yes."  Please 
>> remember that I am referring only to the V iPhone 2, group, not the original 
>> list.
>> 
>> Let's not make this more complicated than it has to be; okay?
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor 
>> Lynch
>> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 5:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
>> January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List
>> 
>> Does this mean that the viphone2 list will be discontinued or paused for all 
>> members?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/9/2023 12:17 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> Hello Simon,
>>> 
>>> The original V iPhone mailing list has been back  up and running for quite 
>>> a while and it just doesn't make sense to keep using 2 groups for the same 
>>> discussions.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 4:02 PM
>>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting 
>>> Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone 
>>> Mailing List
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> Can we have a reason as to your change back?
>>> 
>>> I thought the former list had been killed off by the hosting providers.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>>> Taylor
>>> Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 12:49 pm
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
>>> January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, I will only post to the original V 
>>> iPhone mailing list.
>>> 
>>> So, if you have not yet 

RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Talk about being out of the loop and behind on emails. I wasn't even aware of a 
second/back up list. Was there some drama?

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

Fazil,

Mark wrote as follows:

Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, I will only post to the original ViPhone 
mailing list.
So, if you have not yet done so, you may subscribe to the original V iPhone 
group by sending an email to:
viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com
Also, I am no longer approving requests to join the ViPhone 2 mailing list.
If, for some reason, the primary ViPhone mailing list stops working, then we 
will, once again, activate ViPhone 2.

So if you look at the email header and see "From: viphone@googlegroups.com" all 
should be fine, otherwise do as Mark says and send an email to the address 
provided above.
I never subscribed to the ViPhone 2 list, but I assume it will indicate in the 
"From" field that it is from the ViPhone 2  list.




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

Do I have to do anything on my end for this change to be effective, or it would 
be automatic?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2023 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

That's fine, thanks for the 'heads up'.


On 1/9/2023 2:27 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Essentially, as far as I am concerned, the answer is, "Yes."  Please remember 
> that I am referring only to the V iPhone 2, group, not the original list.
>
> Let's not make this more complicated than it has to be; okay?
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor 
> Lynch
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 5:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
> January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List
>
> Does this mean that the viphone2 list will be discontinued or paused for all 
> members?
>
>
> On 1/9/2023 12:17 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Simon,
>>
>> The original V iPhone mailing list has been back  up and running for quite a 
>> while and it just doesn't make sense to keep using 2 groups for the same 
>> discussions.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 4:02 PM
>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
>> January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Can we have a reason as to your change back?
>>
>> I thought the former list had been killed off by the hosting providers.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 12:49 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
>> January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, I will only post to the original V 
>> iPhone mailing list.
>>
>> So, if you have not yet done so, you may subscribe to the original V iPhone 
>> group by sending an email to:
>>
>> viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Also, I am no longer approving requests to join the V iPhone 2 mailing list.
>> If, for some reason, the primary V iPhone mailing list stops working, then 
>> we will, once again, activate V iPhone 2.
>>
>> Moderator Mark
>>
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RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

[Richard Turner]

James,
That had me laughing out loud.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Probably no need for expensive professional help.

There's probably an app for that.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Time for professional help for sure, 




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Wow, that sounds serious, mark, I think you need professional help 藍
I really like my phone and use it a lot although strictly by time I use it most 
for listening to Audible. But I have no issues putting it aside when we have 
company.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Hi Deidra,

Yes, while I keep a healthy supply of Braille novels, magazines, and 
periodicals in my house, it can be challenging, from time-to-time, to 
disconnect from the web.

A couple of weeks ago, when in a hurry, a friend and I left my house heading to 
a store to do a bit of light shopping.  Halfway there, I realized that I had 
left my phone, at home.

It was all I could do to keep from having her turn the car around and returning 
to retrieve it.

While out, we decided to grab some lunch at a restaurant.

While we were out, I found myself fighting panic attacks at not having access 
to the internet.  Now I knew this was foolish; after all, I wasn't expecting 
any important phone calls, I knew that we would be heading back to the house 
within a couple of hours or so, etc.  Still, I found it most difficult to stay 
calm and pay attention to her.  

She kept asking, "Are you okay?"  

I told her that I had left my phone at home and that it was no big deal.  I 
soon discovered that, in my mind at least, it was, in fact, a tremendously 
large, big deal (smile).)

When, near the end of our meal, she suggested that we go to a park for a while, 
I all but screamed, "No!"  

I simply couldn't stand the thought of being separated from my phone, one 
minute longer.

So, yes, addicting, these devices can definitely be, to say the least.

Mark



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 6:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

These posts are great. You all are up on all that is out there. As for me, I 
can't wear any kind of ear pieces because they cause me sharp pain in my inner 
ear. I am glued to my phone day and night mostly because I text and read a lot, 
but I find if I do not turn my phone off at night, I sleep poorly because as 
soon as I wake in the night, I once more reach for the phone. I fall asleep 
again but if I leave the phone off I somehow sleep much better and wake less!
Round the clock entertainment these phone sure provide us. Does that 
spell distraction or cultural etification?

Smiling,

Deidre


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

I'd take a set of Airpods maybe if somebody gave them to me along with $20.
I hate having anything stuck inside my ear further than the wired Earpods, they 
happen to fit me great and I don't even have to push them in hard and they just 
stay in place.
I also wouldn't be caught dead spending the kind of money on two little things 
which only last 5 or 6 hours and which I am bound to loose sooner or later.
Now keep in mind that this is strictly my take, I know many of  you love them 
and that's fine, then of course if I did spend the money on them I'd also say I 
love them.
As for wearing something in bed when you most likely will fall asleep there is 
nothing better than those sleep headbands which have a set of very thin 
speakers on each side over your ear and a little control pod on  your forehead 
with 3 buttons for volume up/down and play/pause in the middle. Of course if 
you want to fall asleep to high fidelty music then these are 

RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

[James Bentley]

Probably no need for expensive professional help.

There's probably an app for that.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Time for professional help for sure, 




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Wow, that sounds serious, mark, I think you need professional help 藍
I really like my phone and use it a lot although strictly by time I use it most 
for listening to Audible. But I have no issues putting it aside when we have 
company.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Hi Deidra,

Yes, while I keep a healthy supply of Braille novels, magazines, and 
periodicals in my house, it can be challenging, from time-to-time, to 
disconnect from the web.

A couple of weeks ago, when in a hurry, a friend and I left my house heading to 
a store to do a bit of light shopping.  Halfway there, I realized that I had 
left my phone, at home.

It was all I could do to keep from having her turn the car around and returning 
to retrieve it.

While out, we decided to grab some lunch at a restaurant.

While we were out, I found myself fighting panic attacks at not having access 
to the internet.  Now I knew this was foolish; after all, I wasn't expecting 
any important phone calls, I knew that we would be heading back to the house 
within a couple of hours or so, etc.  Still, I found it most difficult to stay 
calm and pay attention to her.  

She kept asking, "Are you okay?"  

I told her that I had left my phone at home and that it was no big deal.  I 
soon discovered that, in my mind at least, it was, in fact, a tremendously 
large, big deal (smile).)

When, near the end of our meal, she suggested that we go to a park for a while, 
I all but screamed, "No!"  

I simply couldn't stand the thought of being separated from my phone, one 
minute longer.

So, yes, addicting, these devices can definitely be, to say the least.

Mark



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 6:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

These posts are great. You all are up on all that is out there. As for me, I 
can't wear any kind of ear pieces because they cause me sharp pain in my inner 
ear. I am glued to my phone day and night mostly because I text and read a lot, 
but I find if I do not turn my phone off at night, I sleep poorly because as 
soon as I wake in the night, I once more reach for the phone. I fall asleep 
again but if I leave the phone off I somehow sleep much better and wake less!
Round the clock entertainment these phone sure provide us. Does that 
spell distraction or cultural etification?

Smiling,

Deidre


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

I'd take a set of Airpods maybe if somebody gave them to me along with $20.
I hate having anything stuck inside my ear further than the wired Earpods, they 
happen to fit me great and I don't even have to push them in hard and they just 
stay in place.
I also wouldn't be caught dead spending the kind of money on two little things 
which only last 5 or 6 hours and which I am bound to loose sooner or later.
Now keep in mind that this is strictly my take, I know many of  you love them 
and that's fine, then of course if I did spend the money on them I'd also say I 
love them.
As for wearing something in bed when you most likely will fall asleep there is 
nothing better than those sleep headbands which have a set of very thin 
speakers on each side over your ear and a little control pod on  your forehead 
with 3 buttons for volume up/down and play/pause in the middle. Of course if 
you want to fall asleep to high fidelty music then these are not the right 
thing, but they are fine for audio books or, if you are into those sleep 
sounds, that would probably be just fine, but they are the most comfortable 
thing and I usually sleep on my side so I definitely know and I often wake up 
in the middle of the night with my Audible book happily playing and I then 
usually stop it, pull them off my head and thrown them on the side table. You 
can find them on Amazon, just make sure 

RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

[Richard Turner]

Time for professional help for sure, 




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Wow, that sounds serious, mark, I think you need professional help 藍
I really like my phone and use it a lot although strictly by time I use it most 
for listening to Audible. But I have no issues putting it aside when we have 
company.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Hi Deidra,

Yes, while I keep a healthy supply of Braille novels, magazines, and 
periodicals in my house, it can be challenging, from time-to-time, to 
disconnect from the web.

A couple of weeks ago, when in a hurry, a friend and I left my house heading to 
a store to do a bit of light shopping.  Halfway there, I realized that I had 
left my phone, at home.

It was all I could do to keep from having her turn the car around and returning 
to retrieve it.

While out, we decided to grab some lunch at a restaurant.

While we were out, I found myself fighting panic attacks at not having access 
to the internet.  Now I knew this was foolish; after all, I wasn't expecting 
any important phone calls, I knew that we would be heading back to the house 
within a couple of hours or so, etc.  Still, I found it most difficult to stay 
calm and pay attention to her.  

She kept asking, "Are you okay?"  

I told her that I had left my phone at home and that it was no big deal.  I 
soon discovered that, in my mind at least, it was, in fact, a tremendously 
large, big deal (smile).)

When, near the end of our meal, she suggested that we go to a park for a while, 
I all but screamed, "No!"  

I simply couldn't stand the thought of being separated from my phone, one 
minute longer.

So, yes, addicting, these devices can definitely be, to say the least.

Mark



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 6:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

These posts are great. You all are up on all that is out there. As for me, I 
can't wear any kind of ear pieces because they cause me sharp pain in my inner 
ear. I am glued to my phone day and night mostly because I text and read a lot, 
but I find if I do not turn my phone off at night, I sleep poorly because as 
soon as I wake in the night, I once more reach for the phone. I fall asleep 
again but if I leave the phone off I somehow sleep much better and wake less!
Round the clock entertainment these phone sure provide us. Does that 
spell distraction or cultural etification?

Smiling,

Deidre


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

I'd take a set of Airpods maybe if somebody gave them to me along with $20.
I hate having anything stuck inside my ear further than the wired Earpods, they 
happen to fit me great and I don't even have to push them in hard and they just 
stay in place.
I also wouldn't be caught dead spending the kind of money on two little things 
which only last 5 or 6 hours and which I am bound to loose sooner or later.
Now keep in mind that this is strictly my take, I know many of  you love them 
and that's fine, then of course if I did spend the money on them I'd also say I 
love them.
As for wearing something in bed when you most likely will fall asleep there is 
nothing better than those sleep headbands which have a set of very thin 
speakers on each side over your ear and a little control pod on  your forehead 
with 3 buttons for volume up/down and play/pause in the middle. Of course if 
you want to fall asleep to high fidelty music then these are not the right 
thing, but they are fine for audio books or, if you are into those sleep 
sounds, that would probably be just fine, but they are the most comfortable 
thing and I usually sleep on my side so I definitely know and I often wake up 
in the middle of the night with my Audible book happily playing and I then 
usually stop it, pull them off my head and thrown them on the side table. You 
can find them on Amazon, just make sure you do look for wireless ones because 
the original ones do have a 3.5mm cable and that of course is sucks. I think I 
paid around $30 Canadian for mine about 2 or 3 years ago and they still work 
great.
I also have an Aftershokz Open Com which I use in certain situations and 
another Bluetooth 

RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Janet, keep in mind that this could have just been some glitch which happened 
to you and while it's frustrating and unfortunate, there will always be stuff 
like that happening.
You may also want to check if your Bose speaker is able to take firmware 
updates as updating devices if it can be done is also very important.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Arnold,
I was thinking I just might have to do that.  I can’t imagine how Apple let 
this one go through, but they did!

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 12:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Also, if everything works as it should except through your speaker, perhaps you 
need to tell your phone to forget this device, then pair it again.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Jan 9, 2023, at 12:31 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Janet,
I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. First, I 
would check the setting that your speaker is set as via Bluetooth settings and 
more info for your speaker. Set that device to speaker as voiceover can behave 
differently if it’s set to another setting.
Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your rotor as 
your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many prefer voiceover 
speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You can add audio destination 
via your settings- Settings, accessibility, voiceover followed by rotor.

Hope that helps.
Feliciano

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away 
before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my 
Apple Music and Bose Speaker?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well as 
with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play on 
the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play one 
song after the other, and I’ve done this for many years.  I had Apple music 
playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and while it 
didn’t work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple Music playing a 
few hours ago, but now my Bose Speaker says it is connected, but nothing comes 
through the speaker.  One problem after the other with this phone.
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RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Fazil,

Mark wrote as follows:

Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, I will only post to the original ViPhone 
mailing list.
So, if you have not yet done so, you may subscribe to the original V iPhone 
group by sending an email to:
viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com
Also, I am no longer approving requests to join the ViPhone 2 mailing list.
If, for some reason, the primary ViPhone mailing list stops working, then we 
will, once again, activate ViPhone 2.

So if you look at the email header and see "From: viphone@googlegroups.com" all 
should be fine, otherwise do as Mark says and send an email to the address 
provided above.
I never subscribed to the ViPhone 2 list, but I assume it will indicate in the 
"From" field that it is from the ViPhone 2  list.




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

Do I have to do anything on my end for this change to be effective, or it would 
be automatic?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2023 6:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List

That's fine, thanks for the 'heads up'.


On 1/9/2023 2:27 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Essentially, as far as I am concerned, the answer is, "Yes."  Please remember 
> that I am referring only to the V iPhone 2, group, not the original list.
>
> Let's not make this more complicated than it has to be; okay?
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Flor 
> Lynch
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 5:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
> January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List
>
> Does this mean that the viphone2 list will be discontinued or paused for all 
> members?
>
>
> On 1/9/2023 12:17 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Simon,
>>
>> The original V iPhone mailing list has been back  up and running for quite a 
>> while and it just doesn't make sense to keep using 2 groups for the same 
>> discussions.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 4:02 PM
>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
>> January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Can we have a reason as to your change back?
>>
>> I thought the former list had been killed off by the hosting providers.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Monday, 9 January 2023 12:49 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Attention All V iPhone 2, Group List Members! Starting Tuesday, 
>> January 10, 2023, Mark Will Only Post to the Original V iPhone Mailing List
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Starting Tuesday, January 10, 2023, I will only post to the original V 
>> iPhone mailing list.
>>
>> So, if you have not yet done so, you may subscribe to the original V iPhone 
>> group by sending an email to:
>>
>> viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Also, I am no longer approving requests to join the V iPhone 2 mailing list.
>> If, for some reason, the primary V iPhone mailing list stops working, then 
>> we will, once again, activate V iPhone 2.
>>
>> Moderator Mark
>>
>>
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>>

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RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

[James Bentley]

LOL.  I know exactly what you were feeling.

These devices are like narcotics.  I'm hooked too.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 12:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

Hi Deidra,

Yes, while I keep a healthy supply of Braille novels, magazines, and 
periodicals in my house, it can be challenging, from time-to-time, to 
disconnect from the web.

A couple of weeks ago, when in a hurry, a friend and I left my house heading to 
a store to do a bit of light shopping.  Halfway there, I realized that I had 
left my phone, at home.

It was all I could do to keep from having her turn the car around and returning 
to retrieve it.

While out, we decided to grab some lunch at a restaurant.

While we were out, I found myself fighting panic attacks at not having access 
to the internet.  Now I knew this was foolish; after all, I wasn't expecting 
any important phone calls, I knew that we would be heading back to the house 
within a couple of hours or so, etc.  Still, I found it most difficult to stay 
calm and pay attention to her.  

She kept asking, "Are you okay?"  

I told her that I had left my phone at home and that it was no big deal.  I 
soon discovered that, in my mind at least, it was, in fact, a tremendously 
large, big deal (smile).)

When, near the end of our meal, she suggested that we go to a park for a while, 
I all but screamed, "No!"  

I simply couldn't stand the thought of being separated from my phone, one 
minute longer.

So, yes, addicting, these devices can definitely be, to say the least.

Mark



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 6:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

These posts are great. You all are up on all that is out there. As for me, I 
can't wear any kind of ear pieces because they cause me sharp pain in my inner 
ear. I am glued to my phone day and night mostly because I text and read a lot, 
but I find if I do not turn my phone off at night, I sleep poorly because as 
soon as I wake in the night, I once more reach for the phone. I fall asleep 
again but if I leave the phone off I somehow sleep much better and wake less!
Round the clock entertainment these phone sure provide us. Does that 
spell distraction or cultural etification?

Smiling,

Deidre


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

I'd take a set of Airpods maybe if somebody gave them to me along with $20.
I hate having anything stuck inside my ear further than the wired Earpods, they 
happen to fit me great and I don't even have to push them in hard and they just 
stay in place.
I also wouldn't be caught dead spending the kind of money on two little things 
which only last 5 or 6 hours and which I am bound to loose sooner or later.
Now keep in mind that this is strictly my take, I know many of  you love them 
and that's fine, then of course if I did spend the money on them I'd also say I 
love them.
As for wearing something in bed when you most likely will fall asleep there is 
nothing better than those sleep headbands which have a set of very thin 
speakers on each side over your ear and a little control pod on  your forehead 
with 3 buttons for volume up/down and play/pause in the middle. Of course if 
you want to fall asleep to high fidelty music then these are not the right 
thing, but they are fine for audio books or, if you are into those sleep 
sounds, that would probably be just fine, but they are the most comfortable 
thing and I usually sleep on my side so I definitely know and I often wake up 
in the middle of the night with my Audible book happily playing and I then 
usually stop it, pull them off my head and thrown them on the side table. You 
can find them on Amazon, just make sure you do look for wireless ones because 
the original ones do have a 3.5mm cable and that of course is sucks. I think I 
paid around $30 Canadian for mine about 2 or 3 years ago and they still work 
great.
I also have an Aftershokz Open Com which I use in certain situations and 
another Bluetooth gadget I have is one of these around the neck speakers, they 
consist of a thick and relatively soft rubbery cable about as thick as your 
thumb and one each end is a speaker, one has the typical buttons to turn it 
on/off and for play/pause and volume up/down. I quite like using them at home 
when I am out in the summer in the garden or even while cooking, your audio is 
right there more or less in front of your shoulders and you can easily reach up 
and pause or change the volume.for cert But I just bought a new set of 
Lightning Earpods because they are still my 

Re: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi Janet.  I have no idea why you are having so many problems with IOS 16.2.

On 1/9/23, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> Hi Janet,
> Another thing
>
> To consider is checking if there’s new firmware update for your speaker. I
> know you can do this for compatible Bose devices via Bose connect app on
> iPhone. Other than that I imagine you removed the device from your bluetooth
> settings and repaired it already.
> Feliciano
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> On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:23 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Feliciano,
> I’ve checked all those Bluetooth settings, and all is well.  I’ve used this
> Bose Speaker with Apple Music for at least 5 years with no problem, until I
> updated to 16.2, in which I  regret!  I’ve signed out of the Apple Music
> App, and signed back in with no different results.  I completely understand
> minor bugs, minor changes, but when it gets to the point of having to erase
> your entire phone, and still the phone doesn’t work like it should, there
> is something seriously wrong!
>
> Janet
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 11:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Janet,
> I understand your frustration as I too have experienced this problem. First,
> I would check the setting that your speaker is set as via Bluetooth settings
> and more info for your speaker. Set that device to speaker as voiceover can
> behave differently if it’s set to another setting.
> Secondly, I would recommend that you add audio destination to your rotor as
> your voiceover speech can be sent to the speaker when many prefer voiceover
> speech to be on the iPhone and audio via speaker. You can add audio
> destination via your settings- Settings, accessibility, voiceover followed
> by rotor.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Feliciano
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 8:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I’m sorry, but my last email regarding Apple Music, just seemed to slip away
> before I got to ask my question.  Does anyone have any ideas to rectify my
> Apple Music and Bose Speaker?
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2023 10:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Music and Bluetooth Help Please.
>
> Hi Everyone,
> Well now, because I updated I have another problem with Apple Music as well
> as with my Bluetooth Bose Color Sound Link.  Sometimes Apple Music will play
> on the phone, and if I play one of my play lists, it takes forever to play
> one song after the other, and I’ve done this for many years.  I had Apple
> music playing yesterday from one of my play list with my Bose Speaker, and
> while it didn’t work all that well, it did finally work, and I had Apple
> Music playing a few hours ago, but now my Bose Speaker says it is connected,
> but nothing comes through the speaker.  One problem after the other with
> this phone.
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