RE: The iOS Measure App on iPhone 14 Pro Max, Measuring Up, At Last

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would just grab my good old talking tape measure and I'd have that picture 
frame measured down to the sixteenth of an inch or, if I switched it to Metric 
down to 1mm in half the time 🤣

But joking aside, nice to know it can do this, I'll have to try it with my 13 
Pro some time and I can then use my tape measure to compare.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The iOS Measure App on iPhone 14 Pro Max, Measuring Up, At Last



Hello All,



I am writing this to let you know how impressed I am with Apple's native 
Measure app, in iOS 16.3, running on my iPhone 14 Pro Max.



NOTE 1:

In order to validate the following results, I wore a blindfold and performed 
each measure no fewer than 7 times, back-to-back, in order to insure 
consistency.



NOTE 2:

I measured 3 items, the first two of which I already knew the dimensions.  I 
deliberately chose a third item, which I had never before measured in order to 
test my personal accuracy.



NOTE 3:

While measuring I had a sighted friend, standing right next to me, use an 
iPhone 11 running iOS 16.3, taking the same measurements to see if there was a 
difference between the 14 Pro Max and the 11 results.  Given the cost of the 14 
Pro Max, I was delighted to discover that there was, indeed, a difference, not 
in the accuracy, but in the target's ability to be measured, given the color 
contrast, in the 14 Pro Max's favor.



NOTE 4:

While it was easier to obtain an accurate measure of a target using my vision, 
at first, after a few tries with the blindfold, not including the 7 
back-to-back measurements, listed above, I found it just as easy to use only my 
hands to get an equally accurate measurement.  In fact, near the end, I 
actually began preferring to use my hands, only, as doing so allowed me to 
focus more on the target and less on distinguishing the target from the surface 
upon which it was placed or rested against.



NOTE 5:

VoiceOver was enabled on both the 11 and the 14, at all times.



NOTE 6:

The following results represent my measuring skills, only.  Please keep in mind 
that I have been measuring items for decades and, as a result, I have a firm 
grasp of how to fine tune a hand movement in order to obtain an objective.  My 
point?  Do not be discouraged if your results are not consistent or accurate.  
Taking accurate measurements, like so many things in life, requires a great 
deal of practice.



NOTE 7:

The following steps are suggested for VoiceOver users who are totally blind.



NOTE 8:

The following steps, while a bit over simplified, for readability, are, in 
fact, the steps I used to obtain accurate measurements.



The first item I measured was a picture frame hanging on my living room wall.  
The wall is white and the frame is dark brown.  I mention this because the 
greater the contrast in colors, the more easily VoiceOver can guide you in 
taking a measurement.



1.

With the Measure app open, hold the phone in portrait orientation.  You must 
obtain / add two virtual points in order to measure the distance between them.  
For example, if you wish to measure the width of a picture frame, hanging on a 
wall, you will place a virtual point on the left side of the frame and a second 
virtual point on the right side of the frame.  Then, the app will tell you the 
distance between the two points.



2.

Using a finger find the edge of the frame and either hold the phone so that the 
center of the phone is directly above your finger.  Then, remove your finger.  
You want to hold the phone so close that VoiceOver will say something like, 
"Too close," or "not in focus," etc.  It may say, "Line not distinguishable," 
also.



3.

Pull the phone, slowly, back, away from the target starting point.  When 
VoiceOver stops announcing the error message, tap the onscreen "ADD" button.





4.

Now keeping your phone hand as close to the current plane as possible, move the 
phone to the right side of the frame.  As you move, VoiceOver will begin 
announcing  the distance you've moved from your starting point.  When you reach 
the right edge of the frame, tap the onscreen "ADD" button.  Your measurement 
is complete.  You can hear the final results by exploring the display.



5.

To clear the results, tap the onscreen "CLEAR" button.



The second item I measured was a desk calculator.  I use the same method as 
described, above.



Let me state here that during the 7 back-to-back measurements of each item, my 
results varied by no more than a quarter inch.  While I would certainly not 
trust my measurements enough to order a precision-demanding item, such as a 
window screen, I would definitely trust my measurements enough to select an 
appliance such as a refrigerator.



Now the third item I measured was a 

The iOS Measure App on iPhone 14 Pro Max, Measuring Up, At Last

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I am writing this to let you know how impressed I am with Apple's native
Measure app, in iOS 16.3, running on my iPhone 14 Pro Max.

NOTE 1:
In order to validate the following results, I wore a blindfold and performed
each measure no fewer than 7 times, back-to-back, in order to insure
consistency.

NOTE 2:
I measured 3 items, the first two of which I already knew the dimensions.  I
deliberately chose a third item, which I had never before measured in order
to test my personal accuracy.

NOTE 3:
While measuring I had a sighted friend, standing right next to me, use an
iPhone 11 running iOS 16.3, taking the same measurements to see if there was
a difference between the 14 Pro Max and the 11 results.  Given the cost of
the 14 Pro Max, I was delighted to discover that there was, indeed, a
difference, not in the accuracy, but in the target's ability to be measured,
given the color contrast, in the 14 Pro Max's favor.

NOTE 4:
While it was easier to obtain an accurate measure of a target using my
vision, at first, after a few tries with the blindfold, not including the 7
back-to-back measurements, listed above, I found it just as easy to use only
my hands to get an equally accurate measurement.  In fact, near the end, I
actually began preferring to use my hands, only, as doing so allowed me to
focus more on the target and less on distinguishing the target from the
surface upon which it was placed or rested against.

NOTE 5:
VoiceOver was enabled on both the 11 and the 14, at all times.

NOTE 6:
The following results represent my measuring skills, only.  Please keep in
mind that I have been measuring items for decades and, as a result, I have a
firm grasp of how to fine tune a hand movement in order to obtain an
objective.  My point?  Do not be discouraged if your results are not
consistent or accurate.  Taking accurate measurements, like so many things
in life, requires a great deal of practice.

NOTE 7:
The following steps are suggested for VoiceOver users who are totally blind.

NOTE 8:
The following steps, while a bit over simplified, for readability, are, in
fact, the steps I used to obtain accurate measurements.

The first item I measured was a picture frame hanging on my living room
wall.  The wall is white and the frame is dark brown.  I mention this
because the greater the contrast in colors, the more easily VoiceOver can
guide you in taking a measurement.

1.
With the Measure app open, hold the phone in portrait orientation.  You must
obtain / add two virtual points in order to measure the distance between
them.  For example, if you wish to measure the width of a picture frame,
hanging on a wall, you will place a virtual point on the left side of the
frame and a second virtual point on the right side of the frame.  Then, the
app will tell you the distance between the two points.

2.
Using a finger find the edge of the frame and either hold the phone so that
the center of the phone is directly above your finger.  Then, remove your
finger.  You want to hold the phone so close that VoiceOver will say
something like, "Too close," or "not in focus," etc.  It may say, "Line not
distinguishable," also.

3.
Pull the phone, slowly, back, away from the target starting point.  When
VoiceOver stops announcing the error message, tap the onscreen "ADD" button.


4.
Now keeping your phone hand as close to the current plane as possible, move
the phone to the right side of the frame.  As you move, VoiceOver will begin
announcing  the distance you've moved from your starting point.  When you
reach the right edge of the frame, tap the onscreen "ADD" button.  Your
measurement is complete.  You can hear the final results by exploring the
display.  

5.
To clear the results, tap the onscreen "CLEAR" button.

The second item I measured was a desk calculator.  I use the same method as
described, above.

Let me state here that during the 7 back-to-back measurements of each item,
my results varied by no more than a quarter inch.  While I would certainly
not trust my measurements enough to order a precision-demanding item, such
as a window screen, I would definitely trust my measurements enough to
select an appliance such as a refrigerator.

Now the third item I measured was a bathroom door.  Both the door and the
doorframe are white and the wall into which the door frame is set is also
white.  (Not really white but all three are the exact same color.)  

And it was here where the 14 Pro Max took the proverbial show in that it had
absolutely no problem distinguishing the actual door from its surrounding
objects, despite the lack of any color contrast, while the 11 could not even
come close.  My friend was not able to get the iPhone 11 to add any virtual
points because the camera simply could not tell where the door began and
ended.  In order to get the 11 to distinguish the door from its frame, we
had to open the door and shine a bright light on the door.

Now of course our results are hardly definitive but they are,

RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, they do have an iOS app and I find it quite accessible. Could it be 
better, there is always room for improvement, but I can open my SafeNotes and 
read their context or I can pick either Roboform or iCloud when I am trying to 
log in somewhere.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

Does Roboform have an iOS app?  Is it accessible?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News


I have been using Roboform probably for more than 15 years and it has been a 
reliable password manager for me. You can also have an unlimited amount of 
so-called SafeNotes and while I have never tried to set one up with information 
that is say 5 or 6 pages long, I don't think each SafeNote has a size limit, 
either and if it does it's more than enough.

I have things like all my credit card numbers with expiry dates, CV codes and 
corresponding phone numbers in such SafeNotes, also my bank accounts including 
the bank's institution, transit numbers, routing and swift codes. I have a 
SafeNote called Gift Cards where I write down the numbers and codes of gift 
cards I sometimes buy with points, how much the card had on it, when I bought 
it and when I used it. I also include what it was I bought and what, if any, 
the balance remaining is. I have SafeNotes for my tech gear, e.g. Lenovo, HP, 
Sonos etc. and here I have written down everything I ever bought, when I bought 
it and for how much, serial numbers of printers, laptops and on and on.

I have of course a SafeNote called Apple where I have my 2-factor 
authentication recovery key, I now added the advanced data protection recovery 
key and of course in there as well are the serial numbers of my wife's and my 
iPhones, our Apple TV, iPad etc.

I use a random 14-character master password for Roboform which I also change 
from time to time and use nowhere else, Roboform data on their servers is of 
course encrypted and I also use 2-factor authentication which for Roboform 
means if anybody including myself tries to sign in on a new device, I get an 
email with a 6-digit OTP (one-time password) code. I feel it's more or less as 
safe as it can be.



I also have a Yubiko hardware security key which looks a little bit like a 
small USB drive, but thinner with a button on it which you press to 
authenticate. I haven't really started using it much yet, but plan to set it up 
for my new Lenovo ThinkPad and Lenovo small form factor desktop computer in the 
office as an additional way to sign in (I also have set up a PIN and on my 
laptop I can also use face recognition and fingerprint).

I still have to explore all the other uses for it because it does also support 
2-factor authentication for Dropbox and many more services, currently I am 
using the Microsoft Authenticator app to generate my Dropbox 2-factor 
authentication code.

Below is first a link to an article from The Verge about security keys and then 
an Amazon Canada link for the Yubiko which is compatible with USB-A ports, but 
they do make a UsB-C version as well:



The best hardware security keys for two-factor authentication - The 
Verge



Yubico YubiKey 5 NFC - Two Factor Authentication USB and NFC Security Key, Fits 
USB-A Ports and Works with Supported NFC Mobile Devices - Protect Your Online 
Accounts with More Than a Password : Amazon.ca: 
Electronics

There is also a UsB-C version of this device available, but according to the 
article from The Verge it does not include NFC and they also mentioned that 
Yubiko was looking at making a version with a Lightning port. I would certainly 
not buy a Lightning version now considering that next year it is highly likely 
that the Lightning port finally disappears in favour of a UsB-C port and USB-C 
is certainly the way forward at least for many years to come.





Best regards,

Sieghard





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 10:52 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: How to set up 

RE: Reading downloaded audible books when not connected to the internet.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why not call Audible support and see what they have to say? Which iPod do you 
have?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading downloaded audible books when not connected to the 
internet.

Yes. Hence my dismay at this latest issue after updating the app.  I rely on 
this ability heavily with my ipod.  

> On Jan 23, 2023, at 2:55 PM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Yes but if you download the audible books aren't you suppose to be able to 
> listen to them without being connected?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: January 23, 2023 2:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading downloaded audible books when not connected to the 
> internet.
> 
> Joshua, if you turn off Wi-Fi you are still cponnected to the internet using 
> cellular data.
> Barbara said she is using an iPod which means that when she is not at home 
> and connected to Wi-Fi therre is no internet connectivity at all.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Reading downloaded audible books when not connected to the 
> internet.
> 
> I have no idea why you would be getting that message.  I have no problem 
> reading audible books that I've downloaded to my 13 pro max.
> It doesn't matter if I've got my WIFI turned on or off, I have no trouble 
> reading the books.
> 
>> On 1/22/23, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>> Go to settings, swipe to cellular & tap to open, swipe down to the 
>> list of apps until you find Audible & confirm that it is selected. Or 
>> open settings, swipe all the way down to where the list of apps that 
>> is installed on the phone starts, find Audible & tap. Here you can turn on 
>> Audible app settings.
>> 
>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi list!
>>> I updated my ipod to IOS 15.7.2 today. After installing this update. 
>>> I also updated my apps including the audible app to the latest app version.
>>> 
>>> However, now whenever I try to read a downloaded book when not 
>>> connected to the internet, it comes up with the message please 
>>> connect to the internet to continue reading.
>>> Does anyone know why this is happening? I have always been able to 
>>> read downloaded audible books without being connected to the 
>>> internet.  This is a real problem, because my ipod is only connected 
>>> to wifi when I'm at home.
>>> Is there some sort of setting that I need to change to restore the 
>>> ability to read downloaded audible books without being connected to the 
>>> internet?
>>> 
>>> I have tried clearing the app from the app switcher and also 
>>> restarting my phone.  I also tried signing out of audible and then 
>>> signing in again with no success.
>>> Do I need to delete the app and redownload it?  Or is there 
>>> something else that I should do?
>>> If this is some sort of new feature with the latest audible app, is 
>>> there a way to return to to the earlier version of audible that does 
>>> not behave in this way?
>>> Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
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RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

[Dennis Long]

Does Roboform have an iOS app?  Is it accessible?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

 

I have been using Roboform probably for more than 15 years and it has been a 
reliable password manager for me. You can also have an unlimited amount of 
so-called SafeNotes and while I have never tried to set one up with information 
that is say 5 or 6 pages long, I don't think each SafeNote has a size limit, 
either and if it does it's more than enough.

I have things like all my credit card numbers with expiry dates, CV codes and 
corresponding phone numbers in such SafeNotes, also my bank accounts including 
the bank's institution, transit numbers, routing and swift codes. I have a 
SafeNote called Gift Cards where I write down the numbers and codes of gift 
cards I sometimes buy with points, how much the card had on it, when I bought 
it and when I used it. I also include what it was I bought and what, if any, 
the balance remaining is. I have SafeNotes for my tech gear, e.g. Lenovo, HP, 
Sonos etc. and here I have written down everything I ever bought, when I bought 
it and for how much, serial numbers of printers, laptops and on and on.

I have of course a SafeNote called Apple where I have my 2-factor 
authentication recovery key, I now added the advanced data protection recovery 
key and of course in there as well are the serial numbers of my wife's and my 
iPhones, our Apple TV, iPad etc.

I use a random 14-character master password for Roboform which I also change 
from time to time and use nowhere else, Roboform data on their servers is of 
course encrypted and I also use 2-factor authentication which for Roboform 
means if anybody including myself tries to sign in on a new device, I get an 
email with a 6-digit OTP (one-time password) code. I feel it's more or less as 
safe as it can be.

 

I also have a Yubiko hardware security key which looks a little bit like a 
small USB drive, but thinner with a button on it which you press to 
authenticate. I haven't really started using it much yet, but plan to set it up 
for my new Lenovo ThinkPad and Lenovo small form factor desktop computer in the 
office as an additional way to sign in (I also have set up a PIN and on my 
laptop I can also use face recognition and fingerprint).

I still have to explore all the other uses for it because it does also support 
2-factor authentication for Dropbox and many more services, currently I am 
using the Microsoft Authenticator app to generate my Dropbox 2-factor 
authentication code.

Below is first a link to an article from The Verge about security keys and then 
an Amazon Canada link for the Yubiko which is compatible with USB-A ports, but 
they do make a UsB-C version as well:

 

The best hardware security keys for two-factor authentication - The Verge 

 

 

Yubico YubiKey 5 NFC - Two Factor Authentication USB and NFC Security Key, Fits 
USB-A Ports and Works with Supported NFC Mobile Devices - Protect Your Online 
Accounts with More Than a Password : Amazon.ca: Electronics 

 

There is also a UsB-C version of this device available, but according to the 
article from The Verge it does not include NFC and they also mentioned that 
Yubiko was looking at making a version with a Lightning port. I would certainly 
not buy a Lightning version now considering that next year it is highly likely 
that the Lightning port finally disappears in favour of a UsB-C port and USB-C 
is certainly the way forward at least for many years to come.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 10:52 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: RE: How to set up Advanced Data Protection, end-to-end encryption for 
your iCloud data, Mac Daily News

 

This is great feedback, Sieghard.  Thank you.

 

To tell you the truth, I'm kind of afraid to enable the feature for fear of 
losing the key.  

 

I believe that with OS 16.3 one can actually use some kind of physical recovery 
key, but as I have no idea of how this would work, I'm holding off on the 
feature, for now.

 

You, however, are a brave man, "Charlie Brown."  (smil

RE: Spoken RX Update

[Dennis Long]

Where do you go in the phone app to get them to read?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 11:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Spoken RX Update

My Spoken RX device arrived yesterday.  We had 7 prescription bottles with the 
SpokenRX tags on them.  Out of the 7, only 1 would read.  The other 6 just said 
"name, null".  Spoke with the Pharmacist, who told me that she has very little 
success in activating the tags.  

Got a text saying another prescription was ready for pickup.  My husband and I 
went to the pharmacy, taking the reader with us.  The Pharmacist informed us 
that the tag on this one also did not activate.  I found it troubling that she 
didn't offer a solution.  She just said again that the majority of the tags she 
makes don't activate. Could it be a case of faulty equipment?
We may never know. 

I spent over 2 hours this morning trying to contact someone at the corperate 
office. I would get transferred and put on hold, only to have the call drop.
Tried 4 times.  I know this pharmacy is short staffed.  My goal is just to get 
someone to check her equipment to make shure it's working properly, and to make 
sure she is making the tags correctly.  I find it frustrating that she never 
indicated that she was reaching out for help.

The tag that did read was great!  I'm impressed with the amount of information 
that is available.  The reader is very easy to use.  I was so frustrated that I 
didn't think to try to read it with the phone app, which didn't work on the 
others before I received the reader.

Has anyone else had problems with tags that will not read?

Karen P

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Spoken RX Update

[Karen Poulakos]

My Spoken RX device arrived yesterday.  We had 7 prescription bottles with
the SpokenRX tags on them.  Out of the 7, only 1 would read.  The other 6
just said "name, null".  Spoke with the Pharmacist, who told me that she has
very little success in activating the tags.  

Got a text saying another prescription was ready for pickup.  My husband and
I went to the pharmacy, taking the reader with us.  The Pharmacist informed
us that the tag on this one also did not activate.  I found it troubling
that she didn't offer a solution.  She just said again that the majority of
the tags she makes don't activate. Could it be a case of faulty equipment?
We may never know. 

I spent over 2 hours this morning trying to contact someone at the corperate
office. I would get transferred and put on hold, only to have the call drop.
Tried 4 times.  I know this pharmacy is short staffed.  My goal is just to
get someone to check her equipment to make shure it's working properly, and
to make sure she is making the tags correctly.  I find it frustrating that
she never indicated that she was reaching out for help.

The tag that did read was great!  I'm impressed with the amount of
information that is available.  The reader is very easy to use.  I was so
frustrated that I didn't think to try to read it with the phone app, which
didn't work on the others before I received the reader.

Has anyone else had problems with tags that will not read?

Karen P

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Re: Voice to text

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Thanks Leo!Sent from my iPhoneOn 23 Jan 2023, at 3:38 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:Hi, this is the app that I use. It’s quite accurate.https://apps.apple.com/app/audio-to-text-for-whatsapp/id1250211654  Best, Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco ChanSent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 4:37 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Voice to text Just converting audio recording or WhatsApp voice message to text.Sent from my iPhoneOn 21 Jan 2023, at 5:04 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Perhaps you could give more details on what you are trying to do?Dictation is voice to text, which iOS does fairly well.Or, are you trying to find a way to convert an audio recording into text?   Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com On Jan 21, 2023, at 1:43 PM, Marco Chan  wrote:Hi group, does anyone have any suggestions?Thx,Sent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6CCDF574-6540-4D25-A4F0-AFE810C8EF73%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6068E9EC-8968-4D7E-BCB2-F7B22AA2F634%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/F400055E-A5D1-4BDD-88B6-96FC7F57E75C%40gmail.com.



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Re: hearing aid volume

[Agent086b]

Hi,
does she have buttons on her hearing aids? 
If so there will be a volume button. They  are may be a rocker switch up for up 
and down for down that is if they are like mine. You may have an app where you 
can change the volume also.
Max.

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> Hi,
>  
> My wife needs help adjusting the volume on her Phonac hearing aids. She has a 
> 13 ProMax running 16.2.x. This is the volume of her phones ring tone and the 
> text message tone that comes through her hearing aids via Bluetooth. I am 
> designated tech support here at home, but I’m not having success with this 
> problem. All suggestions appreciated.
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>  
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Re: Right Way Up?

[Traci Duncan]

Hi guys, as far as I understand, there are words on top and bottom, with  a 
picture in the center of the card. For example, it may say fuel truck at the 
top and bottom, and there is a picture of a fuel truck in the center of the 
card. 

Thanks,
Traci

> On Jan 24, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Shirley Tracy  wrote:
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> I think you mean the Seeing AI app, don’t you? 
> The names are easy to mix up. 
>  
> Shirley Tracy
>  
> From: Barbara Stahl 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 4:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Right Way Up?
>  
> So do you mean that the picture is not upside down, or do you mean that you 
> want to be sure that you are brailleing the front rather than the back of the 
> card?  
> You could use the seeing eye app.  That has a short text and a document 
> feature and its free.  
> 
> 
> On Jan 24, 2023, at 2:27 PM, Richard Turner  > wrote:
> 
> Playing cards are right way up either way. the images are such that which 
> ever way you hold them they are right way up.
> That is why if you purchase a deck of cards already brailled, they are 
> brailled on the top left corner either way you hold them.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
>  
> 
> 
> On Jan 24, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Traci Duncan  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all, is there a scanning app that will let me know if something is the 
> right way up? I want to label some playing cards, but I would like to know 
> that they are the correct way up.
> 
> Thank you,
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hearing aid volume

[jkt4960]

Hi,

 

My wife needs help adjusting the volume on her Phonac hearing aids. She has
a 13 ProMax running 16.2.x. This is the volume of her phones ring tone and
the text message tone that comes through her hearing aids via Bluetooth. I
am designated tech support here at home, but I'm not having success with
this problem. All suggestions appreciated.

 

Thanks, 

 

Joe 

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RE: Right Way Up?

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I think you mean the Seeing AI app, don’t you? The names are easy to mix up.  Shirley Tracy From: Barbara StahlSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 4:35 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Right Way Up? So do you mean that the picture is not upside down, or do you mean that you want to be sure that you are brailleing the front rather than the back of the card?  You could use the seeing eye app.  That has a short text and a document feature and its free.  On Jan 24, 2023, at 2:27 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Playing cards are right way up either way. the images are such that which ever way you hold them they are right way up.That is why if you purchase a deck of cards already brailled, they are brailled on the top left corner either way you hold them.   Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com On Jan 24, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:Hi all, is there a scanning app that will let me know if something is the right way up? I want to label some playing cards, but I would like to know that they are the correct way up.Thank you,Tracy.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/F8EC48F3-9169-4933-B0AA-1D872E94EFE6%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C1E90E54-29EF-4C87-815C-39F35E2BF6D3%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0FFF6951-33C0-403A-9B40-4C395C22E741%40gmail.com. 



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RE: Reading downloaded audible books when not connected to the internet.

[chrisjudge1967]

Airplane mode shouldn't affect your ability to play offline content anyway,. 
There must be another issue.

Chris Judge


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: January 23, 2023 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading downloaded audible books when not connected to the 
internet.

I just tried to listen to an audible book that I had downloaded with airplane 
mode turned on, and it worked just fine.  Good luck.

On 1/23/23, Barbara Stahl  wrote:
> Yes. Hence my dismay at this latest issue after updating the app.  I 
> rely on this ability heavily with my ipod.
>
>> On Jan 23, 2023, at 2:55 PM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Yes but if you download the audible books aren't you suppose to be 
>> able to listen to them without being connected?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: January 23, 2023 2:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Reading downloaded audible books when not connected to 
>> the internet.
>>
>> Joshua, if you turn off Wi-Fi you are still cponnected to the 
>> internet using cellular data.
>> Barbara said she is using an iPod which means that when she is not at 
>> home and connected to Wi-Fi therre is no internet connectivity at all.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Reading downloaded audible books when not connected to 
>> the internet.
>>
>> I have no idea why you would be getting that message.  I have no 
>> problem reading audible books that I've downloaded to my 13 pro max.
>> It doesn't matter if I've got my WIFI turned on or off, I have no 
>> trouble reading the books.
>>
>>> On 1/22/23, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>>> Go to settings, swipe to cellular & tap to open, swipe down to the 
>>> list of apps until you find Audible & confirm that it is selected. 
>>> Or open settings, swipe all the way down to where the list of apps 
>>> that is installed on the phone starts, find Audible & tap. Here you 
>>> can turn on Audible app settings.
>>>
>>> Donna


 
 Hi list!
 I updated my ipod to IOS 15.7.2 today. After installing this update.
 I also updated my apps including the audible app to the latest app 
 version.

 However, now whenever I try to read a downloaded book when not 
 connected to the internet, it comes up with the message please 
 connect to the internet to continue reading.
 Does anyone know why this is happening? I have always been able to 
 read downloaded audible books without being connected to the 
 internet.  This is a real problem, because my ipod is only 
 connected to wifi when I'm at home.
 Is there some sort of setting that I need to change to restore the 
 ability to read downloaded audible books without being connected to 
 the internet?

 I have tried clearing the app from the app switcher and also 
 restarting my phone.  I also tried signing out of audible and then 
 signing in again with no success.
 Do I need to delete the app and redownload it?  Or is there 
 something else that I should do?
 If this is some sort of new feature with the latest audible app, is 
 there a way to return to to the earlier version of audible that 
 does not behave in this way?
 Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Right Way Up?

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So do you mean that the picture is not upside down, or do you mean that you 
want to be sure that you are brailleing the front rather than the back of the 
card?  
You could use the seeing eye app.  That has a short text and a document feature 
and its free.  

> On Jan 24, 2023, at 2:27 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Playing cards are right way up either way. the images are such that which 
> ever way you hold them they are right way up.
> That is why if you purchase a deck of cards already brailled, they are 
> brailled on the top left corner either way you hold them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi all, is there a scanning app that will let me know if something is the 
>> right way up? I want to label some playing cards, but I would like to know 
>> that they are the correct way up.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Tracy.
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Re: Right Way Up?

[Traci Duncan]

Hi, these are for a racing game and there is a picture in the center of the 
card. 

Thanks,
Traci


> On Jan 24, 2023, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Playing cards are right way up either way. the images are such that which 
> ever way you hold them they are right way up.
> That is why if you purchase a deck of cards already brailled, they are 
> brailled on the top left corner either way you hold them.
> 
> 
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>> On Jan 24, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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>> Hi all, is there a scanning app that will let me know if something is the 
>> right way up? I want to label some playing cards, but I would like to know 
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Re: Right Way Up?

[Richard Turner]

Playing cards are right way up either way. the images are such that which ever 
way you hold them they are right way up.
That is why if you purchase a deck of cards already brailled, they are brailled 
on the top left corner either way you hold them.




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> On Jan 24, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Hi all, is there a scanning app that will let me know if something is the 
> right way up? I want to label some playing cards, but I would like to know 
> that they are the correct way up.
> 
> Thank you,
> Tracy.
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Right Way Up?

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, is there a scanning app that will let me know if something is the right 
way up? I want to label some playing cards, but I would like to know that they 
are the correct way up.

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any tips on renaming an amazon musix playlist.

[Chris Judd]

Hello everyone,

I have created a few playlists in the amazon music app, and I want to 
rename a few of them.

Every time I double tap on edit, voice over won't let me rename anything.
I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this, or if you can 
please give me any tips on renaming playlists in amazon music?

Thanks,
Chris

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