Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Andy Baracco]

Thank you.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Christopher Chaltain 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 9:12 PM
  Subject: RE: Home button gestures on an iPad


a.. To access Siri, long press the lock button.
b.. To get to the App Switcher, start at the bottom of the screen and slide 
up until you feel the third vibration. Two vibrations will get you to the home 
screen and three vibrations will get you the App Switcher.
c.. To stop and restart VoiceOver, use a triple press of the lock button.
   

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 8:51 PM
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  Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

   

  How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

   

  Andy

   

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From: Robert Doc Wright 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:35 PM

Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone 
than the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Jennie Facer 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM

  Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

   

  Hi Andy, 

   

  What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until 
you feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, 
just without VoiceOver’s clicks.

   

  Jenn

  Jenn and Kumi 

  

   

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RE: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Christopher Chaltain]

  *   To access Siri, long press the lock button.
  *   To get to the App Switcher, start at the bottom of the screen and slide 
up until you feel the third vibration. Two vibrations will get you to the home 
screen and three vibrations will get you the App Switcher.
  *   To stop and restart VoiceOver, use a triple press of the lock button.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 8:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Robert Doc Wright
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone than 
the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.
- Original Message -
From: Jennie Facer
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM
Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

Hi Andy,

What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you feel 
a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver's clicks.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


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RE: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

The assistive touch button is a very useful feature. How to Enable a Virtual 
Home Button on iPhone or iPad with AssistiveTouch 

 

I’ve used it in the past when the home button on one of my older phones was all 
wonky and I didn’t feel like hassling with trying to fix it.

It’s also convenient to have with all the larger sized iPhones. On my XR, I 
have it placed on the right side of the screen (I’m right handed) just above 
the dock of apps. Not necessary, but it’s still nice to have options to do this 
or that gesture 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

 

Andy

 

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From: Robert Doc Wright   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:35 PM

Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone than 
the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.

- Original Message - 

From: Jennie Facer   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM

Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad

 

Hi Andy, 

 

What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you feel 
a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver’s clicks.

 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi 



 

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Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Andy Baracco]

How do you do things like access Siri, reach the app switcher, and control 
Voiceover like you would do with presses of the home button?

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Doc Wright 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 6:35 PM
  Subject: Re: Home button gestures on an iPad


  translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone than 
the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.
- Original Message - 
From: Jennie Facer 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM
Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad


Hi Andy, 


What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you 
feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver’s clicks.


Jenn

Jenn and Kumi 



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Re: Home button gestures on an iPad

[Robert Doc Wright]

translation slide up until you feel a vibration or a higher pitched tone than 
the one you heard when you touch the iPad at the bottom.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jennie Facer 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 5:12 PM
  Subject: Home button gestures on an iPad


  Hi Andy,


  What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you 
feel a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver’s clicks.


  Jenn

  Jenn and Kumi 



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Re: iPhone, and Bluetooth issues

[Loreal Lavigna]

I don’t have any problem with VoiceOver, and it only seems to occur when I am connected to Bluetooth for a speaker or for AirPods. I can cast some thing to my TV without there being an issue, but it’s weird whenever it’s connected to Bluetooth for audio. Only, it seems to be an issue. It was happening before the release of iOS 16.5, so I don’t think it’s a version issue at least not with the latest version anyway. I’ve never had any issue with voice over at all, so I can’t say there’s anything there either. LorealSent from my iPhoneOn May 23, 2023, at 7:06 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:Hi there,If you are running 16.5, I am having the same issue on my phone. And, when I don’t have airPods in, my VoiceOver gets snappy and it cracks through my speakers. I thought it was my phone.Jenn
Jennie Facer


On May 23, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:I have tried all of the above, and have still not seen any resolution.LorealSent from my iPhoneOn May 23, 2023, at 4:26 PM, Barbara Stahl  wrote:Have you tried turning the bluetooth off and then back on again?  Or try turning off the phone and then turning it back on again.  Those things can sometimes fix weird issues that pop up.  On May 23, 2023, at 11:31 AM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:Just curious. I’ve noticed very recently I’m having an issue with any Bluetooth speakers/earbuds/AirPods. Makes no difference what is connected to my phone, but after a bit of time, there is a sound like breaking up in the speaker or in the AirPods. I would compare it to if you were driving, and you’re going through a dead zone where you have sound, then you don’t, then it kind of bounces between having it and not having it, but it’s very choppy. I’ve tried the same thing on my iPad and everything works as it should. But I cannot figure out what I might be having an issue with. I’ve even gone so far as to reset all settings, but ultimately not reset my device to factory defaults and have to reinstall and re-sync data. I’m trying to avoid that at all costs if it all possible. Like I said, the issue does not appear to be on my iPad, but does appear instead to be on my iPhone. I am using an iPhone 13 promax, 256 GB,  And on my iPad where I don’t have any issues it is an iPad mini latest generation also running 16.41A. I am actually in the process of upgrading to 16.5 to see if perhaps this might rectify the issue. I would be interested to find out if anyone else has run into this issue and if so, what may have been done to correct it short of if it all possible, resetting the device to factory defaults and erasing all data and contacts. LorealSent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/14A05E27-7C1D-4AA5-9BEF-1817CAD189E5%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/E194823F-E48B-4E06-AC09-C243981032DF%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received 

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Jennie Facer]

Well said, Scott!!

There is always something to gripe about. No software is going to be bug free, 
and this is a small thing, because for the most part, there are workarounds. I 
could see getting upset if they took accessibility away from us permanently, 
but this is petty. Come on, now. We all have our thoughts, and I’m not trying 
to change yours, Davy, but just be thankful for what you have and not so 
demanding.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   

> On May 23, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Scott Davert  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> It's a pretty serious bug when you don't have the luxury of audio
> books or listening with speech.
> That said, Davy, I encourage you to try reading a book on Android, any
> version of the OS, and tell me why Apple's feature which worked pretty
> well is somehow less sue worthy than Android. What about Samsung?
> Their phones don't appear to be working with the new itteration of
> TalkBack's braille support. Their watches have 0 braille support.
> Also, why depend on America to do that? You have an EU counterpart,
> right? Or am I misunderstanding the purposes behind the European Blind
> Union? Here's an ignerant American making suggestions
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 5/23/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Sieghard it is an overall braille bug just check the forums on Applevis.
>> 
>> Davy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard
>> Weitzel
>> Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:55
>> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
>> UPDATE to ios16.5
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this
>> point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15.
>> Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS
>> 16.6 will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several
>> third level updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1,
>> iOS 16.6.2 etc., but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late
>> June or early July the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September
>> as always iOS 17 will be released for the masses. I personally can't see a
>> single reason why one should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy
>> described is I assume not an iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> Michael Irons
>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
>> UPDATE to ios16.5
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking
>> about I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner >  > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything
>> works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally,
>> but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I
>> hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If
>> I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting
>> VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that,
>> panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again.
>> Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are
>> seeing?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem
>> remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater >  > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yep, that’s it.
>> 
>> Devin Prater
>> 
>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Https://devinprater.micro.blog
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert >  > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello.
>> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
>> 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
>> problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
>> and I'm not aware?
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com 
>> mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> Folks
>> 
>> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
>> accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
>> 
>> The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
>> as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
>> 
>> This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
>> DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
>> Davy
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Home button gestures on an iPad

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Andy,

What i would suggest is sliding up from the bottom of the screen until you feel 
a couple of bumps. I think it could be the same for sighted people, just 
without VoiceOver’s clicks.

Jenn
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Re: iPhone, and Bluetooth issues

[Jennie Facer]

Hi there,

If you are running 16.5, I am having the same issue on my phone. And, when I 
don’t have airPods in, my VoiceOver gets snappy and it cracks through my 
speakers. I thought it was my phone.

Jenn
Jennie Facer

> On May 23, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:
> 
> I have tried all of the above, and have still not seen any resolution.
> 
> Loreal
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 23, 2023, at 4:26 PM, Barbara Stahl  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Have you tried turning the bluetooth off and then back on again?  Or try 
>> turning off the phone and then turning it back on again.  Those things can 
>> sometimes fix weird issues that pop up.  
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2023, at 11:31 AM, Loreal Lavigna  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just curious. I’ve noticed very recently I’m having an issue with any 
>>> Bluetooth speakers/earbuds/AirPods. Makes no difference what is connected 
>>> to my phone, but after a bit of time, there is a sound like breaking up in 
>>> the speaker or in the AirPods. I would compare it to if you were driving, 
>>> and you’re going through a dead zone where you have sound, then you don’t, 
>>> then it kind of bounces between having it and not having it, but it’s very 
>>> choppy. I’ve tried the same thing on my iPad and everything works as it 
>>> should. But I cannot figure out what I might be having an issue with. I’ve 
>>> even gone so far as to reset all settings, but ultimately not reset my 
>>> device to factory defaults and have to reinstall and re-sync data. I’m 
>>> trying to avoid that at all costs if it all possible. Like I said, the 
>>> issue does not appear to be on my iPad, but does appear instead to be on my 
>>> iPhone. I am using an iPhone 13 promax, 256 GB,  And on my iPad where I 
>>> don’t have any issues it is an iPad mini latest generation also running 
>>> 16.41A. I am actually in the process of upgrading to 16.5 to see if perhaps 
>>> this might rectify the issue. I would be interested to find out if anyone 
>>> else has run into this issue and if so, what may have been done to correct 
>>> it short of if it all possible, resetting the device to factory defaults 
>>> and erasing all data and contacts. 
>>> 
>>> Loreal
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Re: iPhone, and Bluetooth issues

[Loreal Lavigna]

I have tried all of the above, and have still not seen any resolution.

Loreal
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2023, at 4:26 PM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried turning the bluetooth off and then back on again?  Or try 
> turning off the phone and then turning it back on again.  Those things can 
> sometimes fix weird issues that pop up.  
> 
>> On May 23, 2023, at 11:31 AM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:
>> 
>> Just curious. I’ve noticed very recently I’m having an issue with any 
>> Bluetooth speakers/earbuds/AirPods. Makes no difference what is connected to 
>> my phone, but after a bit of time, there is a sound like breaking up in the 
>> speaker or in the AirPods. I would compare it to if you were driving, and 
>> you’re going through a dead zone where you have sound, then you don’t, then 
>> it kind of bounces between having it and not having it, but it’s very 
>> choppy. I’ve tried the same thing on my iPad and everything works as it 
>> should. But I cannot figure out what I might be having an issue with. I’ve 
>> even gone so far as to reset all settings, but ultimately not reset my 
>> device to factory defaults and have to reinstall and re-sync data. I’m 
>> trying to avoid that at all costs if it all possible. Like I said, the issue 
>> does not appear to be on my iPad, but does appear instead to be on my 
>> iPhone. I am using an iPhone 13 promax, 256 GB,  And on my iPad where I 
>> don’t have any issues it is an iPad mini latest generation also running 
>> 16.41A. I am actually in the process of upgrading to 16.5 to see if perhaps 
>> this might rectify the issue. I would be interested to find out if anyone 
>> else has run into this issue and if so, what may have been done to correct 
>> it short of if it all possible, resetting the device to factory defaults and 
>> erasing all data and contacts. 
>> 
>> Loreal
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Gestures That Replace Home Button for iPad

[Andy Baracco]

My wife just got a new iPad and to her surprise, she realized that it does 
not have a home button.
Does anyone know where I can obtain a list of gestures that perform the 
functions of the home button?


Andy

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RE: new tremendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Dennis Long]

I completely agree with you Scott.  Apple still has the best accessibility.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

Hi all.
It's a pretty serious bug when you don't have the luxury of audio books or 
listening with speech.
That said, Davy, I encourage you to try reading a book on Android, any version 
of the OS, and tell me why Apple's feature which worked pretty well is somehow 
less sue worthy than Android. What about Samsung?
Their phones don't appear to be working with the new itteration of TalkBack's 
braille support. Their watches have 0 braille support.
Also, why depend on America to do that? You have an EU counterpart, right? Or 
am I misunderstanding the purposes behind the European Blind Union? Here's an 
ignerant American making suggestions

Scott

On 5/23/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Sieghard it is an overall braille bug just check the forums on Applevis.
>
> Davy
>
>
>
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:55
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices 
> DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5
>
>
>
> I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. 
> At this point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as 
> iOS 15.
> Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that 
> iOS
> 16.6 will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be 
> several third level updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be 
> iOS 16.6.1, iOS 16.6.2 etc., but in two weeks iOS 17 will be 
> introduced at WWDC, by late June or early July the first iOS 17 public 
> beta will be out and in September as always iOS 17 will be released 
> for the masses. I personally can't see a single reason why one should 
> avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy described is I assume not an iOS 
> 16 bug but a Facebook bug.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Michael Irons
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO 
> NOT UPDATE to ios16.5
>
>
>
> I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept 
> talking about I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner   > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where 
> everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page 
> opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille 
> display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and 
> nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I am unable to 
> navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way I 
> have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
> use Kindle or voice dream Reader again.
> Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you 
> are seeing?
>
>
>
> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the 
> problem remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater   > wrote:
>
>
>
> Yep, that’s it.
>
> Devin Prater
>
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com 
>
>
>
> Https://devinprater.micro.blog
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert   > wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello.
> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI 
> 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some 
> problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues 
> and I'm not aware?
>
> Scott
>
> On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  
> mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Folks
>
> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple 
> accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
>
> The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not 
> work as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
>
> This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
> DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
> Davy
>
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Re: iPhone, and Bluetooth issues

[Barbara Stahl]

Have you tried turning the bluetooth off and then back on again?  Or try 
turning off the phone and then turning it back on again.  Those things can 
sometimes fix weird issues that pop up.  

> On May 23, 2023, at 11:31 AM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:
> 
> Just curious. I’ve noticed very recently I’m having an issue with any 
> Bluetooth speakers/earbuds/AirPods. Makes no difference what is connected to 
> my phone, but after a bit of time, there is a sound like breaking up in the 
> speaker or in the AirPods. I would compare it to if you were driving, and 
> you’re going through a dead zone where you have sound, then you don’t, then 
> it kind of bounces between having it and not having it, but it’s very choppy. 
> I’ve tried the same thing on my iPad and everything works as it should. But I 
> cannot figure out what I might be having an issue with. I’ve even gone so far 
> as to reset all settings, but ultimately not reset my device to factory 
> defaults and have to reinstall and re-sync data. I’m trying to avoid that at 
> all costs if it all possible. Like I said, the issue does not appear to be on 
> my iPad, but does appear instead to be on my iPhone. I am using an iPhone 13 
> promax, 256 GB,  And on my iPad where I don’t have any issues it is an iPad 
> mini latest generation also running 16.41A. I am actually in the process of 
> upgrading to 16.5 to see if perhaps this might rectify the issue. I would be 
> interested to find out if anyone else has run into this issue and if so, what 
> may have been done to correct it short of if it all possible, resetting the 
> device to factory defaults and erasing all data and contacts. 
> 
> Loreal
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Devin Prater]

Right. Google Play Books just now got the ability to turn pages when 
TalkBack gets to the end of the current page. As of like a few weeks ago.


On 5/23/2023 1:56 PM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi all.
It's a pretty serious bug when you don't have the luxury of audio
books or listening with speech.
That said, Davy, I encourage you to try reading a book on Android, any
version of the OS, and tell me why Apple's feature which worked pretty
well is somehow less sue worthy than Android. What about Samsung?
Their phones don't appear to be working with the new itteration of
TalkBack's braille support. Their watches have 0 braille support.
Also, why depend on America to do that? You have an EU counterpart,
right? Or am I misunderstanding the purposes behind the European Blind
Union? Here's an ignerant American making suggestions

Scott

On 5/23/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:

Sieghard it is an overall braille bug just check the forums on Applevis.

Davy



Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard
Weitzel
Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:55
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
UPDATE to ios16.5



I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this
point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15.
Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS
16.6 will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several
third level updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1,
iOS 16.6.2 etc., but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late
June or early July the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September
as always iOS 17 will be released for the masses. I personally can't see a
single reason why one should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy
described is I assume not an iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Michael Irons
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
UPDATE to ios16.5



I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking
about I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.

Sent from my iPhone



On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,



I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything
works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally,
but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I
hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If
I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting
VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that,
panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again.
Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are
seeing?



I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.



Best,

Anna





On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Yep, that’s it.

Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com 



Https://devinprater.micro.blog



On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com 
mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Scott Davert]

Hi all.
It's a pretty serious bug when you don't have the luxury of audio
books or listening with speech.
That said, Davy, I encourage you to try reading a book on Android, any
version of the OS, and tell me why Apple's feature which worked pretty
well is somehow less sue worthy than Android. What about Samsung?
Their phones don't appear to be working with the new itteration of
TalkBack's braille support. Their watches have 0 braille support.
Also, why depend on America to do that? You have an EU counterpart,
right? Or am I misunderstanding the purposes behind the European Blind
Union? Here's an ignerant American making suggestions

Scott

On 5/23/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Sieghard it is an overall braille bug just check the forums on Applevis.
>
> Davy
>
>
>
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard
> Weitzel
> Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:55
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
> UPDATE to ios16.5
>
>
>
> I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this
> point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15.
> Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS
> 16.6 will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several
> third level updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1,
> iOS 16.6.2 etc., but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late
> June or early July the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September
> as always iOS 17 will be released for the masses. I personally can't see a
> single reason why one should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy
> described is I assume not an iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Michael Irons
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
> UPDATE to ios16.5
>
>
>
> I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking
> about I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner   > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything
> works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally,
> but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I
> hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If
> I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting
> VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that,
> panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again.
> Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are
> seeing?
>
>
>
> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem
> remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater   > wrote:
>
>
>
> Yep, that’s it.
>
> Devin Prater
>
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com 
>
>
>
> Https://devinprater.micro.blog
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert   > wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello.
> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
> 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
> problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
> and I'm not aware?
>
> Scott
>
> On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com 
> mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Folks
>
> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
> accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
>
> The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
> as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
>
> This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
> DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
> Davy
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[davycuppens]

Hi Sieghard 

 

That is the case, but for all people reading kindle books or have other 
applications blocking when moving tot he next page with the panning keys, press 
space+o to fulfill this task until the bug is fixed.

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard Weitzel
Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:59
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

Sorry, I lost track of Davy's tremendous bug reports, just realized he is 
talking about an iOS 16.5 braille issue not a facebook issue.

I'm not a braille user so I can't comment on that one.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 9:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this 
point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15. 
Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS 16.6 
will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several third level 
updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1, iOS 16.6.2 etc., 
but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late June or early July 
the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September as always iOS 17 will 
be released for the masses. I personally can't see a single reason why one 
should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy described is I assume not an 
iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 On Behalf Of Michael Irons
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking about 
I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

 

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yep, that’s it.

Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com  

 

Https://devinprater.micro.blog

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com   
mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[davycuppens]

Sieghard it is an overall braille bug just check the forums on Applevis.

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard Weitzel
Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:55
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this 
point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15. 
Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS 16.6 
will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several third level 
updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1, iOS 16.6.2 etc., 
but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late June or early July 
the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September as always iOS 17 will 
be released for the masses. I personally can't see a single reason why one 
should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy described is I assume not an 
iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking about 
I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

 

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yep, that’s it.

Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com  

 

Https://devinprater.micro.blog

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com   
mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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Re: Save Business card contents

[Lyne]

Only with document option 

Lyne

> Le 23 mai 2023 à 11:48, anthonyborg...@gmail.com a écrit :
> 
> 
> Can you please explain how to save the information in Seeing AI?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
>  
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: 23 May 2023 12:09
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Save Business card contents
>  
> 
> you could switch seeing AI to document channel instead of short text. then 
> you would be able to save the information.
> 
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
> 
> rmann0...@gmail.com
> 
> 386-383-5175
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 23, 2023, at 7:06 AM, Ann M Medlar  wrote:
> 
> 
> Using iPhone 12 Pro with Voice over, IOS 16.4.1.
> 
> Open Seeing AI to read a business card and channel is on short text.
> 
>   Voice Over began speaking the contents on card but I wish to save this 
> information in contacts.
> 
> Is there Any way to do this in Seeing AI?
> 
> I did a three finger quad tap and copied to clipboard, opened mail, pasted 
> and sent myself an email  Rather than using email can I put info in contacts 
> directly with Seeing AI.
> 
> Or any other app that might do this?
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RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

There’s still that annoying dictation bug where what you say is often inserted 
twice, but not a show stopper per se.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 9:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this 
point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15. 
Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS 16.6 
will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several third level 
updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1, iOS 16.6.2 etc., 
but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late June or early July 
the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September as always iOS 17 will 
be released for the masses. I personally can't see a single reason why one 
should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy described is I assume not an 
iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking about 
I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

 

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yep, that’s it.

Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com  

 

Https://devinprater.micro.blog

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com   
mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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RE: Save Business card contents

[anthonyborg001]

Can you please explain how to save the information in Seeing AI? 

Thanks in advance 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: 23 May 2023 12:09
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Save Business card contents

 

you could switch seeing AI to document channel instead of short text. then you 
would be able to save the information.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com  

386-383-5175

 





On May 23, 2023, at 7:06 AM, Ann M Medlar  wrote:



Using iPhone 12 Pro with Voice over, IOS 16.4.1.

Open Seeing AI to read a business card and channel is on short text.

  Voice Over began speaking the contents on card but I wish to save this 
information in contacts.

Is there Any way to do this in Seeing AI?

I did a three finger quad tap and copied to clipboard, opened mail, pasted and 
sent myself an email  Rather than using email can I put info in contacts 
directly with Seeing AI.

Or any other app that might do this?

 

 

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iPhone, and Bluetooth issues

[Loreal Lavigna]

Just curious. I’ve noticed very recently I’m having an issue with any Bluetooth 
speakers/earbuds/AirPods. Makes no difference what is connected to my phone, 
but after a bit of time, there is a sound like breaking up in the speaker or in 
the AirPods. I would compare it to if you were driving, and you’re going 
through a dead zone where you have sound, then you don’t, then it kind of 
bounces between having it and not having it, but it’s very choppy. I’ve tried 
the same thing on my iPad and everything works as it should. But I cannot 
figure out what I might be having an issue with. I’ve even gone so far as to 
reset all settings, but ultimately not reset my device to factory defaults and 
have to reinstall and re-sync data. I’m trying to avoid that at all costs if it 
all possible. Like I said, the issue does not appear to be on my iPad, but does 
appear instead to be on my iPhone. I am using an iPhone 13 promax, 256 GB,  And 
on my iPad where I don’t have any issues it is an iPad mini latest generation 
also running 16.41A. I am actually in the process of upgrading to 16.5 to see 
if perhaps this might rectify the issue. I would be interested to find out if 
anyone else has run into this issue and if so, what may have been done to 
correct it short of if it all possible, resetting the device to factory 
defaults and erasing all data and contacts. 

Loreal
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RE: Save Business card contents

[Ann M Medlar]

Thank you Ryan.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Save Business card contents

 

you could switch seeing AI to document channel instead of short text. then you 
would be able to save the information.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com  

386-383-5175

 





On May 23, 2023, at 7:06 AM, Ann M Medlar mailto:amedl...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Using iPhone 12 Pro with Voice over, IOS 16.4.1.

Open Seeing AI to read a business card and channel is on short text.

  Voice Over began speaking the contents on card but I wish to save this 
information in contacts.

Is there Any way to do this in Seeing AI?

I did a three finger quad tap and copied to clipboard, opened mail, pasted and 
sent myself an email  Rather than using email can I put info in contacts 
directly with Seeing AI.

Or any other app that might do this?

 

 

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Re: Save Business card contents

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you could switch seeing AI to document channel instead of short text. then you would be able to save the information.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On May 23, 2023, at 7:06 AM, Ann M Medlar  wrote:Using iPhone 12 Pro with Voice over, IOS 16.4.1.Open Seeing AI to read a business card and channel is on short text.  Voice Over began speaking the contents on card but I wish to save this information in contacts.Is there Any way to do this in Seeing AI?I did a three finger quad tap and copied to clipboard, opened mail, pasted and sent myself an email  Rather than using email can I put info in contacts directly with Seeing AI.Or any other app that might do this?  



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Save Business card contents

[Ann M Medlar]

Using iPhone 12 Pro with Voice over, IOS 16.4.1.

Open Seeing AI to read a business card and channel is on short text.

  Voice Over began speaking the contents on card but I wish to save this
information in contacts.

Is there Any way to do this in Seeing AI?

I did a three finger quad tap and copied to clipboard, opened mail, pasted
and sent myself an email  Rather than using email can I put info in contacts
directly with Seeing AI.

Or any other app that might do this?

 

 

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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I don't use a braille display with my iPhone by choice, although, if I
wanted, I could use my BI40X display.  It is very common to have
braille bugs when an update for IOS comes out.  This is nothing new
and shouldn't surprise anyone.  I strongly urge anyone who isn't
updated to  IOS 16, to do so.  There are certain apps, like audible
for example, that need and want you to update to the latest version of
IOS to work properly.  Good luck.

On 5/22/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Sorry, I lost track of Davy's tremendous bug reports, just realized he is
> talking about an iOS 16.5 braille issue not a facebook issue.
> I'm not a braille user so I can't comment on that one.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 9:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
> UPDATE to ios16.5
>
> I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this
> point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15.
> Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS
> 16.6 will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several
> third level updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1,
> iOS 16.6.2 etc., but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late
> June or early July the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September
> as always iOS 17 will be released for the masses. I personally can't see a
> single reason why one should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy
> described is I assume not an iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Michael Irons
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
> UPDATE to ios16.5
>
> I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking
> about I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything
> works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally,
> but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I
> hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If
> I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting
> VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that,
> panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again.
> Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are
> seeing?
>
> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem
> remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>
> Yep, that’s it.
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>
> Https://devinprater.micro.blog
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert 
> wrote:
>
> Hello.
> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
> 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
> problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
> and I'm not aware?
>
> Scott
>
> On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Folks
>
> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
> accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
>
> The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
> as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
>
> This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
> DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
> Davy
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