RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I find the rotor gesture is much easier if you get an old, cheap turn table you 
know like for playing vinyl records. Then you put  your iPhone on it, hold two 
fingers steady on the screen and turn on the turn table.
You just have to make sure the speed setting is on 33, if it's on 45 let alone 
on the old 78, the centrifugal force will toss your iPhone across the room.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:29 PM
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We sure do. I normally do the router gesture by using my thumb and middle 
fingers. Been doing that for many years now.


On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing 
things. Take care. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!


On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl 
mailto:stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then I 
swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right or left.  It 
seems pretty easy to me.



On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
Hi, everyone,

The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that I 
can turn the rotor very easily.

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!


On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:

You are quite right, Traci.

I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not a 
huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I had 
an engineering mind.  (smile).

Mark



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :)

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci



On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane.

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️



On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

Moderator Mark


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RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Samantha is not a Siri voice.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:15 PM
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Others may correct me if what I say is wrong.  Yes, I think Samantha is a Siri 
voice.  But I agree that it's hard to tell because the Siri voices are now 
labeled Voice 1, Voice 2, ETC.

I currently use the Aaron VoiceOver voice.  That voice is now called Voice 1 
for Siri.

Does anyone have a list of the person names for the Siri voices?

Rob

-Original Message-
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Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 3:49 PM
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I'm already using the Samantha VoiceOver voice. 
Unless Samantha is considered a Siri voice?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:48 AM
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Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will 
stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & 
worked for me.

DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides 
possibly this issue.
> Dan
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> Have you tried doing a hard reboot?
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think 
> that the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen 
> actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and 
> the focus is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for me 
> on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no 
> idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could 
> always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it 
> starts happening too often.  
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my 
>> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of 
>> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I 
>> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, 
>> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I was a bit surprised that they didn't say anything about accessibility, just a 
few weeks ago there was some talk about some major accessibility improvements 
(can't remember what it was), but it sounded big and if that is indeed part of 
iOS 17 I think Apple would have patted themselves on the back a bit.

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You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


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I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I was not because it never is, new iPhones are announced in early September and 
this has been so for many years; I believe maybe the iPhone 3GS or 4 back 
around 2009/2010 was announced in the summer, but ever since 2011 or 2012 it's 
been September.during th

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
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I’m surprised that the iPhone 15 was not announced.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175



On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:

Maybe nobody else did either? 
Lol

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I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Wendy Lin]

Same here and I’m still running iOS 15.5 on my iPhone SE 3 and I’ve been 
noticing lately when I scroll a lot on Facebook, Safari, etc. voiceover says 
screen curtain on out of the blue. I always keep my screen curtain on but I 
never really understood why it does that every now and then.


> On Jun 6, 2023, at 10:06 AM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> This is not just a bug with iOS 16 I have iOS 15.7 and it happens to me
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 1:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> This seems to be a bug with iOS 16.5 and also still with iOS 16.6 beta. I 
>> think what is happening is that there is some sort of brief crash because 
>> whenever this happens for me I am kicked back up the top of the page no 
>> matter if I was just swipeing through Facebook posts, reading a news article 
>> or whatever. This also happens with screen currtain off, but since I think 
>> Voiceover briefly crashes and restarts when screen curtain is on you hear 
>> the message "screen curtain on".
>> I have been meaning to send this to Apple Accessibilithy and demonstrating 
>> with a screen recording, but I am not sure if a screen recording would do 
>> much when screen curtain is on; just as a screenshot with screen curtain on 
>> gives you an image of a black screen I assume maybe a screen recording with 
>> screen curtain on does the same. I tried a few days ago and of course while 
>> I was doing the screen rec ording all went normally and this didn't happen. 
>> Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one and it would be interesting to know 
>> if others experience this or sometimes are surprised that focus suddenly 
>> jumps to the top of the page even when screen curtain is off. It is a bug 
>> for sure as far as I am concerned; not a dealvbreaker, but quite annoying.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
>> Yates
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
>> 
>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen 
>> curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading 
>> something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have 
>> typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and 
>> to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[M. Taylor]

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
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I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
 
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

[Wendy Lin]

We sure do. I normally do the router gesture by using my thumb and middle 
fingers. Been doing that for many years now.

On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing 
things. Take care. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl 
mailto:stahlredstone.0...@gmail.com>> wrote:


That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then I 
swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right or left.  It 
seems pretty easy to me.


On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that I 
can turn the rotor very easily.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:


You are quite right, Traci.

I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not a 
huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I had 
an engineering mind.  (smile).

Mark



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
iOs. :)

Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to 
word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter 
by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci


On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi Mark,
I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
 Take care of yourself.
Peggy Kane.

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
wrote:
Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

Moderator Mark


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Re: Victor Reader Stream

[Wendy Lin]

Thank you for the info. I’ll join since I have a Victor Reader Stream myself.


On Jun 6, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

hi, Jen, thank you so much for your information. I appreciate it. Take care. 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

On Jun 2, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Mo Khan 
mailto:mk3386...@gmail.com>> wrote:


hi I came across the below list may be useful to you.
There is a list for the Victor Reader Stream.  To subscribe to that list, send 
a blank email with subscribe in the subject to:
victor+subscr...@groups.io
thank you.
Mo.

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 1:04 PM Jennie Facer 
mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
HI,

ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER, HUMANWARE, I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT THE THIRD 
VERSION OF THE STREAM SEEMS PRETTY WELL. I HAVEN’T HAD A TREK, SO CAN’T ATTEST 
TO THAT. I HAVE USED BLUETOOTH ON THE THIRD STREAM, AND IT WORKS WELL MOST OF 
THE TIME. WITH THE NEW UPDATE, IT HASN’T CRASHED YET.

JENN
Jenn and Kumi

On May 29, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Esther Levegnale 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

What is the name of the company that puts out the Victor Reader Stream?  I 
believe I knew this at one time,but now it escapes me.

Thanks.

Esther

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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Kelly Pierce]

I listened live to Leo LA Porte and his group of tech bros comment in
real time and critique the keynote immediately afterward. To avoid
turning the keynote into a marathon Oscars telecast, Apple kept the
keynote to 2 hours and six minutes, with a good chunk reserved for the
vision Pro. The iOS segment seemed truncated and rushed to accommodate
the Vision Pro announcement and to cover major updates for the Mac and
the Apple Watch OS. In the presentation, the only blindness
interesting new feature was a big update to messages. A subsequent
announcement said a cool new feature will extract password
verification codes from messages and mail and put them into the
verification box in an app or website.  Also, interactive widgets,
including live lock screen widgets will be coming in iOS 17, which was
long rumored.  For some reason, Apple could not keep a lid on the
rumors this year so there were few surprises, unlike in other years.
With so many third parties, vendors, and contractors, it is now
virtually impossible to prevent everyone from talking.

Wall Street was hyped up.  The stock popped 1.75 percent to reach a
new record high the morning of the keynote, but fell back as the
Vision Pro was revealed.  The tech bros with Leo LA Porte were
astounded by the price tag and did not believe the technology was as
developed as Apple seemed to show.  No one in the Video actually wore
the vision Pro during the keynote.  The guys thought it was a cool,
nerdy technology without a specific end user purpose. They suggested
the headset will be the next status symbol like the iPhone in the late
2000s.

Kelly



On 6/6/23, Richard Turner  wrote:
> They usually don't announce phones until September.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Ryan Mann 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I’m surprised that the iPhone 15 was not announced.
>>
>> Ryan Mann
>> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
>> rmann0...@gmail.com
>> 386-383-5175
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>     Maybe nobody else did
>>> either? Lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:44 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening
>>> so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what
>>> was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>>>
>>> I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case
>>> about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing
>>> addresses so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US
>>> virtual reality headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

[Esther Levegnale]

Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing 
things. Take care. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
> vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then 
> I swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right or left. 
>  It seems pretty easy to me.  
> 
> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi, everyone,
>> 
>> The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
>> bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
>> well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that 
>> I can turn the rotor very easily.
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>> 
 On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> You are quite right, Traci.
>>>  
>>> I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not 
>>> a huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish 
>>> I had an engineering mind.  (smile).
>>>  
>>> Mark
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Traci Duncan
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
>>>  
>>> Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is 
>>> for iOs. :)
>>>  
>>> Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:
>>> 
>>> A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
>>> send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.
>>> 
>>> A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the 
>>> web and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the 
>>> rotor to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, 
>>> flick letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.
>>> 
>>> Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Traci
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to 
>>> check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the 
>>> same message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
>>>  Take care of yourself.
>>> Peggy Kane. 
>>>  
>>> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
>>> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
>>> devices.
>>> 
>>> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.
>>> 
>>> You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
>>> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
>>> see introduced next week?
>>> 
>>> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.
>>> 
>>> Moderator Mark
>>> 
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

[Barbara Stahl]

That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone 
vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then I 
swipe my two index fingers across the screen together to the right or left.  It 
seems pretty easy to me.  


> On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
> 
> Hi, everyone,
> 
> The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
> bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
> well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that 
> I can turn the rotor very easily.
> 
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
>>> On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> You are quite right, Traci.
>>  
>> I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not 
>> a huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I 
>> had an engineering mind.  (smile).
>>  
>> Mark
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
>> Duncan
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
>>  
>> Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is 
>> for iOs. :)
>>  
>> Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:
>> 
>> A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
>> send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.
>> 
>> A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
>> and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor 
>> to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick 
>> letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.
>> 
>> Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Traci
>> 
>> 
>> On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Mark,
>> I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to 
>> check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the 
>> same message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
>>  Take care of yourself.
>> Peggy Kane. 
>>  
>> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
>> 
>> 
>> On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
>> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
>> devices.
>> 
>> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.
>> 
>> You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
>> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.
>> 
>> 
>> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
>> see introduced next week?
>> 
>> I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.
>> 
>> Moderator Mark
>> 
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Re: VoiceDream Support

[TaraPrakash]

Probably there's some thing amiss with your password stored with VDR. That's 
why  no problem downloading anywhere else except VDR. When   you  readd book 
share  to your content sources, you'll be able to re-enter the password. Just a 
suggestion. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 5, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Kimberly Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> I can try that. It didn't really occur to me since I'm not having
> trouble with bookshare on the laptop just with VDR.
> 
> Kim
> 
>> On 6/5/23, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>> I think you should remove and then re-add book share to the content sources.
>> Looks like something has  messed up with your password.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 11:15 AM, Kelby Carlson 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Richard,
>>> I actually have an iPhone 7, so I don't have iOS 16; so I know at
>>> least on my end that's not the source of the problem. I've also tested
>>> it on two separate Braille displays.
>>> I've had no issues downloading from Bookshare; try logging out and
>>> re-adding it as a content source.
>>> 
 On 6/5/23, Kimberly  wrote:
 I've seen in this thread that several people are having no issues
 downloading from bookshare. My problem is that once i search for a title
 and
 my results are displayed, there are no download buttons following any of
 the
 results. I have no idea why this could be since i have no issues with
 bookshare on my laptop. '
 
 Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
 ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books
 can
 be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
 
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 6:43 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
> 
> I have not had any problems downloading bookshare books with VDR.  I
> use voice dream reader for a lot more then just bookshare books,
> although it works great for that.
> 
>> On 6/5/23, Kimberly Gardner  wrote:
>> The short answer is yes. Not long after VDR was sold and the
>> subscription model was introduced I found I could no longer download
>> books from bookshare. Since bookshare is  only source I use with VDR
>> and I had never had trouble before with bookshare I wrote to support.
>> Like you I received no response, not even a standard your request has
>> been received. Last week I wrote again and pointed out that it was the
>> second time I was contacting them about this problem. I did get a
>> response along with a request for a screen shot which I provided. That
>> was a couple of days ago so I am waiting to see what happens next.
>> 
>> Kim
>> 
>>> On 6/4/23, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
>>> Does anybody have trouble getting responses from support for
>>> VoiceDream
>>> Reader now that it has been required? When I email to report bugs now
>>> I
>>> get
>>> no reply at all, not even that they are working on fixing the
>>> problem.
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RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Rob Armstrong]

I wasn't asking who spoke all the samples to create the Samantha voice.  I 
asked if anyone still has the list that identifies what the older names were 
for the Siri voices now called voice 1, voice 2, ETC.  All of the Siri voices 
used to have names like Samantha and Aaron.

When trying to choose VoiceOver voices, we cannot be sure the voice we chose is 
not a Siri voice since the Siri voice is not identified by the same name.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

I believe that the Siri voice is from a person named Susan Bennett. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rob Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

Others may correct me if what I say is wrong.  Yes, I think Samantha is a Siri 
voice.  But I agree that it's hard to tell because the Siri voices are now 
labeled Voice 1, Voice 2, ETC.

I currently use the Aaron VoiceOver voice.  That voice is now called Voice 1 
for Siri.

Does anyone have a list of the person names for the Siri voices?

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

I'm already using the Samantha VoiceOver voice. 
Unless Samantha is considered a Siri voice?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will 
stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & 
worked for me.

DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides 
possibly this issue.
> Dan
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> Have you tried doing a hard reboot?
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think 
> that the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen 
> actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and 
> the focus is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for me 
> on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no 
> idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could 
> always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it 
> starts happening too often.  
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my 
>> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of 
>> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I 
>> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, 
>> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Carolyn Arnold]

I believe that the Siri voice is from a person named Susan Bennett. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rob Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

Others may correct me if what I say is wrong.  Yes, I think Samantha is a Siri 
voice.  But I agree that it's hard to tell because the Siri voices are now 
labeled Voice 1, Voice 2, ETC.

I currently use the Aaron VoiceOver voice.  That voice is now called Voice 1 
for Siri.

Does anyone have a list of the person names for the Siri voices?

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

I'm already using the Samantha VoiceOver voice. 
Unless Samantha is considered a Siri voice?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will 
stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & 
worked for me.

DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides 
possibly this issue.
> Dan
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> Have you tried doing a hard reboot?
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think 
> that the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen 
> actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and 
> the focus is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for me 
> on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no 
> idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could 
> always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it 
> starts happening too often.  
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my 
>> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of 
>> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I 
>> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, 
>> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Snooze.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks, better to know that for sure than try to find what is not available. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph hudson
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Snooze.

Unfortunately, I don't think removing snooze is an option. Shirley hate to tell 
you that one.

> On Jun 5, 2023, at 9:19 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Joseph; I wouldn't want to do anything to make snooze work; I even 
> wish I could remove the option from my phone. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> joseph hudson
> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 7:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Snooze.
> 
> No, the screen is locked, but instead of hitting the stop button, you're 
> hitting the lock screen button, which also snooze is the alarm
> 
> Joseph Hudson
> 
> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@twc.com
> 
> 
> Connect with me on zoom
> 
> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09
> 
> 
>   On Jun 4, 2023, at 5:40 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>   So, that is where I made my mistake is locking the screen after I 
> stopped the alarm? 
>   
>   -Original Message-
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>   Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 2:37 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: Snooze.
>   
>   I don't think having the snooze switch on or off really makes a 
> difference, as long as you hit the stop button when a bird goes off. I just 
> adjusted this on my alarm to see if it makes a difference the next time I 
> said it. I know that if you hit the lock button, it will automatically snooze.
>   
>   
> 
>   On Jun 4, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Carolyn Arnold 
> <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>   So, now, I guess that any time I set an alarm, I have to go in 
> and take off Snooze, or is a way to eliminate, what to me, is totally 
> annoying. I like to sleep as long as I can, and when the clock goes off, get 
> up and go for my day! 
>   
>   -Original Message-
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>   Behalf Of Donna Casteen
>   Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 2:10 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: Snooze.
>   
>   Carolyn,
>   
>   Find & open the Clock app. Swipe down to the alarm time in 
> which you want to turn off Snooze. Flick on the time until you get to Edit, 
> then tap to expand. Swipe down to Snooze & tap to toggle OFF. Tap on Save at 
> the top of the page. Tap on BACK to go to the list of your alarms to find & 
> Edit other set Alarm times or just Close the app.
>   
>   Donna
>   
> 
> 
>   I literally despise Snooze, thought I had it off, but 
> this morning, 
>   I was bothered with the thing. So, my question is, 
> please, what is it 
>   that I do to turn the thing off forever?
>   I mean, I realize it could come back again with an 
> update, but what 
>   can I do to turn it off as long as possible?
>   Thanks. 
>   
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

[Esther Levegnale]

Hi, everyone,

The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a 
bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as 
well.  As I said, my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that I 
can turn the rotor very easily.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 
> You are quite right, Traci.
>  
> I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.I am not a 
> huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I 
> had an engineering mind.  (smile).
>  
> Mark
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
>  
> Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for 
> iOs. :)
>  
> Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:
> 
> A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to 
> send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.
> 
> A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web 
> and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor 
> to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick 
> letter by letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.
> 
> Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)
> 
> Take care,
> Traci
> 
> 
> On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>  
> Hi Mark,
> I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check 
> and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same 
> message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??
>  Take care of yourself.
> Peggy Kane. 
>  
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> 
> 
> On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
> wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
> devices.
> 
> I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.
> 
> You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
> the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.
> 
> 
> Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

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They usually don't announce phones until September. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 6, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:I’m surprised that the iPhone 15 was not announced. Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:    Maybe nobody else did either? Lol  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:44 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: What is happen to the Viphone list? I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56569437B7FBEDEC92B580F2C752A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Ryan Mann]

I’m surprised that the iPhone 15 was not announced. Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:    Maybe nobody else did either? Lol  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:44 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: What is happen to the Viphone list? I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56569437B7FBEDEC92B580F2C752A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

I went ahead and changed the Siri voice to Aaron as well. I guess I'll see if 
it makes any difference on my end. I will say though, talk about having to get 
used to it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
Armstrong
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

Others may correct me if what I say is wrong.  Yes, I think Samantha is a Siri 
voice.  But I agree that it's hard to tell because the Siri voices are now 
labeled Voice 1, Voice 2, ETC.

I currently use the Aaron VoiceOver voice.  That voice is now called Voice 1 
for Siri.

Does anyone have a list of the person names for the Siri voices?

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

I'm already using the Samantha VoiceOver voice. 
Unless Samantha is considered a Siri voice?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will 
stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & 
worked for me.

DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides 
possibly this issue.
> Dan
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> Have you tried doing a hard reboot?
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think 
> that the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen 
> actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and 
> the focus is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for me 
> on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no 
> idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could 
> always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it 
> starts happening too often.  
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my 
>> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of 
>> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I 
>> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, 
>> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Dan Yates]

OK, I’m using the US English Alex voice exclusively now and so far I have not 
heard the screen curtain  alert

Dan


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will 
> stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & 
> worked for me.
> 
> DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides 
> possibly this issue.
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
>> 
>> Have you tried doing a hard reboot?
>> Mr. Ed
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Barbara Stahl
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
>> 
>> My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think 
>> that the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen 
>> actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and 
>> the focus is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for 
>> me on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no 
>> idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could 
>> always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it 
>> starts happening too often.  
>> 
 On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my 
>>> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of 
>>> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I 
>>> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, 
>>> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Rob Armstrong]

Others may correct me if what I say is wrong.  Yes, I think Samantha is a Siri 
voice.  But I agree that it's hard to tell because the Siri voices are now 
labeled Voice 1, Voice 2, ETC.

I currently use the Aaron VoiceOver voice.  That voice is now called Voice 1 
for Siri.

Does anyone have a list of the person names for the Siri voices?

Rob

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

I'm already using the Samantha VoiceOver voice. 
Unless Samantha is considered a Siri voice?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will 
stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & 
worked for me.

DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides 
possibly this issue.
> Dan
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> Have you tried doing a hard reboot?
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think 
> that the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen 
> actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and 
> the focus is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for me 
> on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no 
> idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could 
> always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it 
> starts happening too often.  
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my 
>> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of 
>> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I 
>> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, 
>> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

I'm already using the Samantha VoiceOver voice. 
Unless Samantha is considered a Siri voice?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will 
stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & 
worked for me.

DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides 
possibly this issue.
> Dan
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> Have you tried doing a hard reboot?
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think 
> that the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen 
> actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and 
> the focus is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for me 
> on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no 
> idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could 
> always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it 
> starts happening too often.  
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my 
>> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of 
>> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I 
>> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, 
>> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[danneyyates]

I'll give this a try
Thanks,
Dan


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will 
stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & 
worked for me.

DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides 
possibly this issue.
> Dan
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> Have you tried doing a hard reboot?
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think 
> that the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen 
> actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and 
> the focus is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for me 
> on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no 
> idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could 
> always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it 
> starts happening too often.  
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my 
>> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of 
>> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I 
>> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, 
>> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Donna Casteen]

Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will 
stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & 
worked for me.

DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides 
possibly this issue.
> Dan
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> Have you tried doing a hard reboot?
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think 
> that the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen 
> actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and 
> the focus is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for me 
> on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no 
> idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could 
> always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it 
> starts happening too often.  
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my 
>> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of 
>> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I 
>> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, 
>> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Rob Armstrong]

I have just updated to iOS 16.5.  Even in iOS 15.7, iOS frequently jumps back 
several screens in both Google Chat and WhatsApp.  This happens no matter 
whether the screen curtain is on or off.  It does not jump back the same amount 
each time.

Rob

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Weitzel
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This seems to be a bug with iOS 16.5 and also still with iOS 16.6 beta. I think 
what is happening is that there is some sort of brief crash because whenever 
this happens for me I am kicked back up the top of the page no matter if I was 
just swipeing through Facebook posts, reading a news article or whatever. This 
also happens with screen currtain off, but since I think Voiceover briefly 
crashes and restarts when screen curtain is on you hear the message "screen 
curtain on".
I have been meaning to send this to Apple Accessibilithy and demonstrating with 
a screen recording, but I am not sure if a screen recording would do much when 
screen curtain is on; just as a screenshot with screen curtain on gives you an 
image of a black screen I assume maybe a screen recording with screen curtain 
on does the same. I tried a few days ago and of course while I was doing the 
screen rec ording all went normally and this didn't happen. Anyways, I am glad 
I am not the only one and it would be interesting to know if others experience 
this or sometimes are surprised that focus suddenly jumps to the top of the 
page even when screen curtain is off. It is a bug for sure as far as I am 
concerned; not a dealvbreaker, but quite annoying.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen 
curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading 
something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have typically 
kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to add some 
privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
Dan



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RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[danneyyates]

Sounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides possibly 
this issue.
Dan


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Have you tried doing a hard reboot?
Mr. Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think that 
the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen actually 
lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and the focus 
is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for me on webpages 
and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no idea how to make 
it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could always try 
restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it starts happening 
too often.  

> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
> 
> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen 
> curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading 
> something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have 
> typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to 
> add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
> Dan
> 
> 
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Re: VoiceDream Support

[Kelby Carlson]

Latest version of iOS 15.

On 6/6/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Maybe make sure you didn't accidently enable screen recognition for Voice
> Dream Reader as that can result in all sorts of weird issues with otherwise
> accessible apps.
>
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> I've seen in this thread that several people are having no issues
> downloading from bookshare. My problem is that once i search for a title and
> my results are displayed, there are no download buttons following any of the
> results. I have no idea why this could be since i have no issues with
> bookshare on my laptop. '
>
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can
> be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
>
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 6:43 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>
>> I have not had any problems downloading bookshare books with VDR.  I
>> use voice dream reader for a lot more then just bookshare books,
>> although it works great for that.
>>
>>> On 6/5/23, Kimberly Gardner  wrote:
>>> The short answer is yes. Not long after VDR was sold and the
>>> subscription model was introduced I found I could no longer download
>>> books from bookshare. Since bookshare is  only source I use with VDR
>>> and I had never had trouble before with bookshare I wrote to support.
>>> Like you I received no response, not even a standard your request has
>>> been received. Last week I wrote again and pointed out that it was
>>> the second time I was contacting them about this problem. I did get a
>>> response along with a request for a screen shot which I provided.
>>> That was a couple of days ago so I am waiting to see what happens next.
>>>
>>> Kim
>>>
 On 6/4/23, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
 Does anybody have trouble getting responses from support for
 VoiceDream Reader now that it has been required? When I email to
 report bugs now I get no reply at all, not even that they are
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RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Mr. Ed]

Have you tried doing a hard reboot?
Mr. Ed

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My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think that 
the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen actually 
lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and the focus 
is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for me on webpages 
and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no idea how to make 
it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could always try 
restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it starts happening 
too often.  

> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
> 
> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen 
> curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading 
> something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have 
> typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to 
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> Dan
> 
> 
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RE: bluetooth and typing while using voiceove3r

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You get perfect, lag-free performance and responsiveness with a Logitech H800, 
the problem is that that headset is as far as I know discontinued.
There are other headsets which use a dongle, but you have to make sure it's 
actually a dongle which communicates with the headset via 2.4 Khz frequency and 
not via some sort of Bluetooth protocol since there are also headsets with a 
dongle and it's actually a Bluetooth connection.
The good thing is that you can easily buy replacement battery packs for the 
H800 on Amazon and also replacement foam ear cushions so hopefully I can use 
mine for many years to come. The H800 does not have super battery life as some 
other headsets do, but it's in  my opinion the most comfortable, relatively 
light weight and the fact it can communicate via 2.4 Ghz as well as Bluetooth 
makes it a super solution. I have it paired with my iPhone via Bluetooth so if 
I slide the on/off switch up just one click it connects to my iPhone and if I 
slide it up another click it connects to the dongle via 2.4 Ghz.

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Sieghard, are you telling me, and I think you are, that you get good Windows 
screen reader performance with your Logitek H800 headset with a wireless 
dongle? I can’t stand JAWS with any Bluetooth headsets I’ve tried, so this 
could really be great!

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bluetooth and typing while using voiceove3r

There is no fix, this is simply a result of Bluetooth latency which exists in 
even the best and  most expensive headsets and sometimes I found that expensive 
headsets had more of a delay than inexpensive ones. Even Apple has not figured 
this out with their expensive Airpods, Airpods Pro and Airpods Max; maybe some 
people now come back and say this is not an issue with these headsets, but then 
maybe you just don't notice it because I certainly do. This is also one reason 
why I just can't stand using a Bluetooth headset or even a Bluetooth keyboard 
with a PC; I type and work much too fast to put up with the slight delay I get 
on a Bluetooth keyboard versus no lag I get if I use a Logitech wireless 
keyboard using a USB dongle or a wired keyboard. Same goes for my Logitech H800 
wireless headset which can work in Bluetooth mode as well as via a USB dongle 
plugged into a computer.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: bluetooth and typing while using voiceove3r

I notice that when I’m using Bluetooth headphones and am typing on my Iphone 
that there are latency issues between my finger pressing whatever I want to 
type and me hearing the letter through my headphones. Anybody know how to fix?
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RE: for scan and remove virus and malware.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What is an "online virus"? I think you have to be a lot more specific since iOS 
is  not exactly prone to get viruses. I don't want to say it can't happen, but 
it certainly would be a very rare thing. What exactly is happening on your 
iPhone?


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Hello everybody. is there any way to remove online viruses from iphone?
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RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is definitely an interesting comment and I will try this as I do indeed 
use a Siri voice. If that fixes the issue I will certainly write to Apple 
Accessibility since if they allow Siri voices to be used for Voiceover they 
should make sure something like this is fixed.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

Apple says that it is a Siri bug. & suggests that those using a Siri voice for 
voiceover switch to using a voiceover voice. This should correct the problem, 
it did for me.

Donna
> 
> This is not just a bug with iOS 16 I have iOS 15.7 and it happens to me
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 1:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> This seems to be a bug with iOS 16.5 and also still with iOS 16.6 beta. I 
>> think what is happening is that there is some sort of brief crash because 
>> whenever this happens for me I am kicked back up the top of the page no 
>> matter if I was just swipeing through Facebook posts, reading a news article 
>> or whatever. This also happens with screen currtain off, but since I think 
>> Voiceover briefly crashes and restarts when screen curtain is on you hear 
>> the message "screen curtain on".
>> I have been meaning to send this to Apple Accessibilithy and demonstrating 
>> with a screen recording, but I am not sure if a screen recording would do 
>> much when screen curtain is on; just as a screenshot with screen curtain on 
>> gives you an image of a black screen I assume maybe a screen recording with 
>> screen curtain on does the same. I tried a few days ago and of course while 
>> I was doing the screen rec ording all went normally and this didn't happen. 
>> Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one and it would be interesting to know 
>> if others experience this or sometimes are surprised that focus suddenly 
>> jumps to the top of the page even when screen curtain is off. It is a bug 
>> for sure as far as I am concerned; not a dealvbreaker, but quite annoying.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
>> Yates
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
>> 
>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen 
>> curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading 
>> something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have 
>> typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and 
>> to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
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RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

My phone's been doing this since I don't know when. I just figure it was one of 
those VO quirks that randomly happen. I know it was going on since at least iOS 
15.x when all the other extraneous VO chatter really started, but before that, 
I couldn't say. I'm going to have to pay attention about the being placed at 
the top of the screen part next time it happens. Off-hand, I don't recall if 
that's the case on my XR.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

Hi Christopher, you should try to work with screen curtain on for an extended 
period of time and I believe you will find that whenever this happens if you 
have screen curtain on Voiceover will say "screen curtain on" just as if you 
were restarting Voiceover.
For me clearing the app switcher or restarting the phone does not seem to make 
a difference or if it dcoes it is short-lived; I have an iPhone 13 Pro.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

Once in a great while, I'll have the issue where my focus keeps jumping to the 
top of the screen. I think it has to do with either an IOS update or changing 
my TTS voice. Clearing out my App Switcher and restarting the phone always 
takes care of  this for me.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think that 
the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen actually 
lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and the focus 
is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for me on webpages 
and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no idea how to make 
it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could always try 
restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it starts happening 
too often.

> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>
> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen 
> curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading 
> something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have 
> typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to 
> add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring?
> Dan
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> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

[Esther Levegnale]

you are certainly welcome. Sorry for the lateness of this email 

Esther

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> On May 31, 2023, at 10:37 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Thank you so much, Esther; you are very kind.
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> Mark
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
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> hi, Mark, I think you are doing a fantastic job with the iPhone list. I 
> really enjoyed reading everyone's posts. It was wonderful hearing from you. 
> Thank you so much. Esther
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
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> On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
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> 
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Re: Victor Reader Stream

[Esther Levegnale]

hi, Jen, thank you so much for your information. I appreciate it. Take care. 
Esther

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> On Jun 2, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Mo Khan  wrote:
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> 
> hi I came across the below list may be useful to you.
> There is a list for the Victor Reader Stream.  To subscribe to that list, 
> send a blank email with subscribe in the subject to:
> victor+subscr...@groups.io
> thank you.
> Mo.
> 
>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 1:04 PM Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> HI,
>> 
>> ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER, HUMANWARE, I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT THE 
>> THIRD VERSION OF THE STREAM SEEMS PRETTY WELL. I HAVEN’T HAD A TREK, SO 
>> CAN’T ATTEST TO THAT. I HAVE USED BLUETOOTH ON THE THIRD STREAM, AND IT 
>> WORKS WELL MOST OF THE TIME. WITH THE NEW UPDATE, IT HASN’T CRASHED YET.
>> 
>> JENN
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, everyone,
>>> 
>>> What is the name of the company that puts out the Victor Reader Stream?  I 
>>> believe I knew this at one time,but now it escapes me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Esther
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Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Donna Casteen]

Apple says that it is a Siri bug. & suggests that those using a Siri voice for 
voiceover switch to using a voiceover voice. This should correct the problem, 
it did for me.

Donna
> 
> This is not just a bug with iOS 16 I have iOS 15.7 and it happens to me
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 1:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> This seems to be a bug with iOS 16.5 and also still with iOS 16.6 beta. I 
>> think what is happening is that there is some sort of brief crash because 
>> whenever this happens for me I am kicked back up the top of the page no 
>> matter if I was just swipeing through Facebook posts, reading a news article 
>> or whatever. This also happens with screen currtain off, but since I think 
>> Voiceover briefly crashes and restarts when screen curtain is on you hear 
>> the message "screen curtain on".
>> I have been meaning to send this to Apple Accessibilithy and demonstrating 
>> with a screen recording, but I am not sure if a screen recording would do 
>> much when screen curtain is on; just as a screenshot with screen curtain on 
>> gives you an image of a black screen I assume maybe a screen recording with 
>> screen curtain on does the same. I tried a few days ago and of course while 
>> I was doing the screen rec ording all went normally and this didn't happen. 
>> Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one and it would be interesting to know 
>> if others experience this or sometimes are surprised that focus suddenly 
>> jumps to the top of the page even when screen curtain is off. It is a bug 
>> for sure as far as I am concerned; not a dealvbreaker, but quite annoying.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
>> Yates
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:42 AM
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>> Subject: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
>> 
>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen 
>> curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading 
>> something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have 
>> typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and 
>> to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>> Dan
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Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Barbara Stahl]

This is not just a bug with iOS 16 I have iOS 15.7 and it happens to me

> On Jun 6, 2023, at 1:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> This seems to be a bug with iOS 16.5 and also still with iOS 16.6 beta. I 
> think what is happening is that there is some sort of brief crash because 
> whenever this happens for me I am kicked back up the top of the page no 
> matter if I was just swipeing through Facebook posts, reading a news article 
> or whatever. This also happens with screen currtain off, but since I think 
> Voiceover briefly crashes and restarts when screen curtain is on you hear the 
> message "screen curtain on".
> I have been meaning to send this to Apple Accessibilithy and demonstrating 
> with a screen recording, but I am not sure if a screen recording would do 
> much when screen curtain is on; just as a screenshot with screen curtain on 
> gives you an image of a black screen I assume maybe a screen recording with 
> screen curtain on does the same. I tried a few days ago and of course while I 
> was doing the screen rec ording all went normally and this didn't happen. 
> Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one and it would be interesting to know 
> if others experience this or sometimes are surprised that focus suddenly 
> jumps to the top of the page even when screen curtain is off. It is a bug for 
> sure as far as I am concerned; not a dealvbreaker, but quite annoying.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
> Yates
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
> 
> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen 
> curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading 
> something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have 
> typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to 
> add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
> Dan
> 
> 
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WWDC 23 Keynote: Apple Unveils Platform Updates and Introduces Apple Vision Pro Headset and New

[Tony Sweeney]

Apple Unveils Platform Updates and Introduces Apple Vision Pro Headset 
and New Macs
Apple's highly anticipated annual Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) 
kicked off today with the customary keynote presentation. During the 
event, Apple unveiled the next major updates to all its software 
platforms and introduced the much-awaited mixed-reality headset and some 
new Mac models.
Our editorial team member Alex (‘mehgcap’), who typically provides 
detailed event summaries, regrets being unable to do so this time due to 
work commitments.
Summarizing a 2-hour information and technical-rich event with accuracy 
and speed, while also teasing out what's of particular relevance and 
interest for our community and adding personal opinions, requires skills 
and abilities that I frankly do not possess. Instead, I will provide 
direct links to reliable sources where you can find accurate and 
up-to-date information about all the news announced today. These 
resources include Apple's official press releases and the previews they 
have released for their upcoming major software platform updates. I will 
update this post with additional resources as they become available.

Apple Press Releases
• Introducing Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer
• iOS 17 makes iPhone more personal and intuitive
• iPadOS 17 brings new levels of personalization and versatility to iPad
• macOS Sonoma brings all‑new capabilities for elevating productivity 
and creativity

• Introducing watchOS 10, a milestone update for Apple Watch
• tvOS 17 brings FaceTime and video conferencing to the biggest screen 
in the home

• Apple introduces the 15‑inch MacBook Air
• Apple unveils new Mac Studio and brings Apple silicon to Mac Pro
• Apple introduces M2 Ultra
• AirPods redefine the personal audio experience
• Apple announces powerful new privacy and security features
• Apple provides powerful insights into new areas of health
Apple Operating System Previews
• iOS 17 Preview
• iPadOS 17 Preview
• macOS Sonoma Preview
• watchOS 10 Preview
Media
• Watch WWDC23 keynote replay on Apple website
• Watch WWDC23 keynote replay on Youtube
• You can also watch the WWDC23 keynote in the Apple TV app on any 
supported device.

Mainstream Coverage
• The Verge: Apple Vision Pro first look: the mixed reality future is 
(almost) here

• More to follow!
https://groups.io/g/tech-vi/topic/99350671

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RE: bluetooth and typing while using voiceove3r

[dlmlaochi]

Sieghard, are you telling me, and I think you are, that you get good Windows 
screen reader performance with your Logitek H800 headset with a wireless 
dongle? I can’t stand JAWS with any Bluetooth headsets I’ve tried, so this 
could really be great! 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:28 AM
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Subject: RE: bluetooth and typing while using voiceove3r
 
There is no fix, this is simply a result of Bluetooth latency which exists in 
even the best and  most expensive headsets and sometimes I found that expensive 
headsets had more of a delay than inexpensive ones. Even Apple has not figured 
this out with their expensive Airpods, Airpods Pro and Airpods Max; maybe some 
people now come back and say this is not an issue with these headsets, but then 
maybe you just don't notice it because I certainly do. This is also one reason 
why I just can't stand using a Bluetooth headset or even a Bluetooth keyboard 
with a PC; I type and work much too fast to put up with the slight delay I get 
on a Bluetooth keyboard versus no lag I get if I use a Logitech wireless 
keyboard using a USB dongle or a wired keyboard. Same goes for my Logitech H800 
wireless headset which can work in Bluetooth mode as well as via a USB dongle 
plugged into a computer.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 12:44 PM
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Subject: bluetooth and typing while using voiceove3r
 
I notice that when I’m using Bluetooth headphones and am typing on my Iphone 
that there are latency issues between my finger pressing whatever I want to 
type and me hearing the letter through my headphones. Anybody know how to fix? 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Star Gazer]

Maybe nobody else did either? 
Lol 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.

I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

 

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Re: URL rejected by native browser but not by Edge!

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,Thank you for trying the link for me.The strange thing is that it worked fine on Sunday when I ordered my new SIM.  I have not made any changes to my iPhone 12 Pro Max or updated any software since Sunday but I cannot access Id Mobile’s site.  If I double tap their link on my series 7 Apple Watch the page loads.  It works fine with Edge too but for some reason no longer with Safari.I’ve restarted the phone and reset network settings but the issue persists.All other sites work fine.If anyone has any suggestions I shall be pleased to read them.Malcolm ParfittOn 6 Jun 2023, at 00:52, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:For what it might be worth, I just tried it and it went through. I am in North Carolina, u.s.  I used Safari, on this S E3, runing  16.5.   Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Jun 5, 2023, at 7:32 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Hello,Here in the UK I have recently changed mobile provider from EE to Id Mobile.However when I try to access their site:  ww w.idmobile.co.uk with Safari I get the following:The requested URL was rejected. Please consult with your administrator.Your support ID is: 12145526824697077944I can access the site with Edge.All other sites work fine.  I have disabled Private Relay but the problem persists.Has anyone experienced a similar problem and if so how have you resolved it?It would appear to be a problem with the immobile domain with Safari.I am running an iPhone 12 Pro Max with iOS 16.6 Malcolm Parfitt



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Re: health App Question

[alban hoxha]

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Tom 
Cramer 
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 8:50:29 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: health App Question

Hello,
Due to some different information I had to delete the data from my
health app on my phone and Apple Watch. How do I basically reset the
health app to have this new information? Basically, how do I start
over with the health app? i can't find how to do it on the app.
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for scan and remove virus and malware.

[alban hoxha]

Hello everybody. is there any way to remove online viruses from iphone?

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health App Question

[Tom Cramer]

Hello,
Due to some different information I had to delete the data from my
health app on my phone and Apple Watch. How do I basically reset the
health app to have this new information? Basically, how do I start
over with the health app? i can't find how to do it on the app.
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