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Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Fanus


Hello list

I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is 
part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during 
the night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand 
gesture settings?


Regards

Fanus


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Re: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Parham Doustdar

Hi,
Haptic time doesn’t need speech, that’s the main point. However, I’ve noticed 
that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn’t work 
well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just 
the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
Hope that helps.

> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
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> Hello list
> 
> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
> settings?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Fanus
> 
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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
is true for anyone else.

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Hi,
Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just 
the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
Hope that helps.

> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>
> Hello list
>
> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
> settings?
>
> Regards
>
> Fanus
>
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Re: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Jennie Facer

Hi,

I know a lot of people have troubles with this, but I don’t. What i do is tap 
the watch twice with 1 finger while it is asleep, and it will vibrate the time 
to me. The long vibrations are for tens of minutes or hours, and the short ones 
are for 1 through 9. It does work.
Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   

> On Dec 13, 2023, at 1:47 AM, Fanus  wrote:
> 
> Hello list
> 
> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
> settings?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Fanus
> 
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Re: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Dan



  
  
Actually, I use my Apple watch during the night and it ids
  silent.  I found that I had to use the rotor and turn the sound
  volume down to near zero.  I also turn speech off so that v
  doesn't speak.  I can now use haptic time and my wife doesn't hear
  it at all.  I use it this way in a couple of other settings where
  I want no sound of any kind from my watch.


Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/13/2023 3:47 AM, Fanus wrote:

Hello
  list
  
  
  I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time
  is part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the
  time during the night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic
  tap under the hand gesture settings?
  
  
  Regards
  
  
  Fanus
  
  
  

  




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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone

 

 

I have the Apple watch se and I am having such a hard time using the haptic 
time and I am deafblind and use my watch for an alarm also.

 

However, when I double tap for the time it take forever to even get the time.

 

So do I actually turn off speech for this wo work properly.

 

Thanks.

 

Linda

 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 08:15
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Actually, I use my Apple watch during the night and it ids silent.  I found 
that I had to use the rotor and turn the sound volume down to near zero.  I 
also turn speech off so that v doesn't speak.  I can now use haptic time and my 
wife doesn't hear it at all.  I use it this way in a couple of other settings 
where I want no sound of any kind from my watch.

 

Dan Beaver

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On 12/13/2023 3:47 AM, Fanus wrote:

Hello list 

I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
settings? 

Regards 

Fanus 



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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone

Christopher,

Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. 

But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.

Smile.

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I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
is true for anyone else.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
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Subject: Re: Haptic time

Hi,
Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just 
the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
Hope that helps.

> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
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> Hello list
>
> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
> settings?
>
> Regards
>
> Fanus
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Re: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Dan



  
  
No, you should not have to turn speech
off, that is for silent use.  Are you tapping the screen with
the tips of your fingers?  I find that if I use the pads of my
fingers it doesn't work nearly as well.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/13/2023 11:13 AM, 'Linda C.
  Knight' via VIPhone wrote:


  
  
 
 
I have the Apple watch se and I am having
  such a hard time using the haptic time and I am deafblind and
  use my watch for an alarm also.
 
However, when I double tap for the time it
  take forever to even get the time.
 
So do I actually turn off speech for this
  wo work properly.
 
Thanks.
 
Linda
 

  
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Haptic time
  

 
Actually, I use my Apple watch during the night and it ids
  silent.  I found that I had to use the rotor and turn the
  sound volume down to near zero.  I also turn speech off so
  that v doesn't speak.  I can now use haptic time and my wife
  doesn't hear it at all.  I use it this way in a couple of
  other settings where I want no sound of any kind from my
  watch.
 
Dan Beaver
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

  On 12/13/2023 3:47 AM, Fanus wrote:


  Hello list 

I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic
time is part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to
get the time during the night without waking my wife. Also,
what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings? 

Regards 

Fanus 

  

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Re: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Mary Otten

This used to work reasonably reliably for me as Jen has described. However, it has been totally worthless for several months, after an upgrade I think to the previous iOS, I should say watchOS. I have it set to on, but whenever I do that double tap I always get speech which I don’t want. But I don’t want to turn speech completely off either. It used to work fine, and I have reported it to Apple to no avail.MarySent from my iPhoneOn Dec 13, 2023, at 5:07 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:Hi,I know a lot of people have troubles with this, but I don’t. What i do is tap the watch twice with 1 finger while it is asleep, and it will vibrate the time to me. The long vibrations are for tens of minutes or hours, and the short ones are for 1 through 9. It does work.Jenn
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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Richard Turner

I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one of 
the recent updates.
I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...

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From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone  
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

Christopher,

Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. 

But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.

Smile.

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I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
is true for anyone else.

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Hi,
Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just 
the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
Hope that helps.

> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
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> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
> settings?
>
> Regards
>
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Uncertain About Language Setting

2023-12-13 Thread Jim Portillo

Good morning everyone,

I thought I read something on this list that there is a new VO command to 
toggle between VoiceOver languages. Is this true? Otherwise, I have put the 
Spanish voice language on the roter. If there is a new way of doing this, I’d 
like to know. I’ve not had a lot of time to keep up with the new settings and 
commands these past couple mon ths. 😊

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how to change the default tone in IOS answer

2023-12-13 Thread Dennis Long

Someone was looking for this the other day.
https://applevis.com/podcasts/how-change-default-notification-alert-ios
 

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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone

 

 

Mary,

 

I am in your boat with this. I also reported this to apple. Nada.

 

I really don’t know what to do about it.

 

Linda C. Knight

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

 

This used to work reasonably reliably for me as Jen has described. However, it 
has been totally worthless for several months, after an upgrade I think to the 
previous iOS, I should say watchOS. I have it set to on, but whenever I do that 
double tap I always get speech which I don’t want. But I don’t want to turn 
speech completely off either. It used to work fine, and I have reported it to 
Apple to no avail.

Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 13, 2023, at 5:07 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I know a lot of people have troubles with this, but I don’t. What i do is tap 
the watch twice with 1 finger while it is asleep, and it will vibrate the time 
to me. The long vibrations are for tens of minutes or hours, and the short ones 
are for 1 through 9. It does work.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi  





On Dec 13, 2023, at 1:47 AM, Fanus mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello list

I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings?

Regards

Fanus


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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone

 

 

Dan,

 

Yes, I am using my tips of my fingers. I even checked settings. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

 

No, you should not have to turn speech off, that is for silent use.  Are you 
tapping the screen with the tips of your fingers?  I find that if I use the 
pads of my fingers it doesn't work nearly as well.

 

Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

On 12/13/2023 11:13 AM, 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone wrote:

 

 

I have the Apple watch se and I am having such a hard time using the haptic 
time and I am deafblind and use my watch for an alarm also.

 

However, when I double tap for the time it take forever to even get the time.

 

So do I actually turn off speech for this wo work properly.

 

Thanks.

 

Linda

 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 08:15
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Haptic time

 

Actually, I use my Apple watch during the night and it ids silent.  I found 
that I had to use the rotor and turn the sound volume down to near zero.  I 
also turn speech off so that v doesn't speak.  I can now use haptic time and my 
wife doesn't hear it at all.  I use it this way in a couple of other settings 
where I want no sound of any kind from my watch.

 

Dan Beaver

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On 12/13/2023 3:47 AM, Fanus wrote:

Hello list 

I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
settings? 

Regards 

Fanus 

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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Richard Turner

I was wrong.
A one finger double tap near the 2 o'clock position on the watc face get the 
hour and minute, most of the time.  A one finger triple tap gets just the 
minute, again, most of the time.





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Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one of 
the recent updates.
I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...




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-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time



Christopher,

Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. 

But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.

Smile.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
is true for anyone else.

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Doustdar
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

Hi,
Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just 
the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
Hope that helps.

> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>
> Hello list
>
> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
> settings?
>
> Regards
>
> Fanus
>
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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain

It works fairly reliably for me, but like I said, I do a three finger tap to 
get the time and a four finger tap to get the minutes. I don't know why I need 
three and four taps while others can use two and three taps. I find I also need 
the screen to be off, so if I'm not sure, I'll lift my wrist a bit and then 
drop it back down before tapping my phone. I'd also suggest practicing a bit. 
It took me a while to get down the pace of my tapping, for example, I tap a bit 
slower when getting my time hapticly then I do when I tap on an object on the 
screen.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one of 
the recent updates.
I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...

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-Original Message-
From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

Christopher,

Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch.

But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.

Smile.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
is true for anyone else.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Parham 
Doustdar
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

Hi,
Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just 
the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
Hope that helps.

> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>
> Hello list
>
> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
> settings?
>
> Regards
>
> Fanus
>
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Re: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Richard Turner

You don't have Zoom on do you?

Richard, USA
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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


> On Dec 13, 2023, at 10:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> It works fairly reliably for me, but like I said, I do a three finger tap to 
> get the time and a four finger tap to get the minutes. I don't know why I 
> need three and four taps while others can use two and three taps. I find I 
> also need the screen to be off, so if I'm not sure, I'll lift my wrist a bit 
> and then drop it back down before tapping my phone. I'd also suggest 
> practicing a bit. It took me a while to get down the pace of my tapping, for 
> example, I tap a bit slower when getting my time hapticly then I do when I 
> tap on an object on the screen.
> 
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 10:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
> haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
> I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one 
> of the recent updates.
> I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it."
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
> 2024.2310.70.400
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> 
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch.
> 
> But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.
> 
> Smile.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
> minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
> is true for anyone else.
> 
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Parham 
> Doustdar
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Haptic time
> 
> Hi,
> Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
> that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
> well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me 
> just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
> Hope that helps.
> 
>> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> 
>> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
>> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
>> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
>> settings?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Fanus
>> 
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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread paekstrand

I don't understand needing to do the 2 or 3 taps versus the 3 or 4 taps either.

Sometimes 2 taps works for me, and other times I need to do 3.

Strange.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

It works fairly reliably for me, but like I said, I do a three finger tap to 
get the time and a four finger tap to get the minutes. I don't know why I need 
three and four taps while others can use two and three taps. I find I also need 
the screen to be off, so if I'm not sure, I'll lift my wrist a bit and then 
drop it back down before tapping my phone. I'd also suggest practicing a bit. 
It took me a while to get down the pace of my tapping, for example, I tap a bit 
slower when getting my time hapticly then I do when I tap on an object on the 
screen.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one of 
the recent updates.
I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...

Richard, USA
"Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it."
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
2024.2310.70.400

-Original Message-
From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

Christopher,

Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch.

But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.

Smile.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
is true for anyone else.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Parham 
Doustdar
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

Hi,
Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just 
the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
Hope that helps.

> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>
> Hello list
>
> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
> settings?
>
> Regards
>
> Fanus
>
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Re: answering a call

2023-12-13 Thread David Grossoehme

This setting was set to 2.5 seconds with the ios17.1 update or the ios17 
version.  I'm not certain which one, but a lot of the users changed that 
setting.  I changed mine to 3.5 seconds and have had no problems since.


Dave


On 12/10/2023 3:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Can you be more specific? How do you answer your call, do you use a 2-finger double tap 
(magic tap) or do you find and tap the "Answer" button?
I have an iPhone 13 Pro and both methods work for me.
If you are on iOS 17.1 or 17.2 have you increased the double tap response time 
a little? This really made a difference for me with the issue where a double 
tap was simply registered as a single tap meaning you try to double tap say a 
home screen icon to open an app but instead you would simply put focus 
elsewhere on the screen.
This is in Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Double Tap Time Out.
I believe the default is 0.3 seconds and I changed it to 0.5 seconds on the 
recommendation of somebody else (sorry, forgot who it was).

-Original Message-
From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 11:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: answering a call



Hi all,

Is anyone on the list having an issue ansering a call intermittently?

I am.

I have an iPhone 14 plus. Running latest update.
Thankks.

Linda c. Knight

Linda C. Knight and Gentle Ben and Mr. Crumb




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Re: answering a call

2023-12-13 Thread David Grossoehme

This was discussed on the idevice email list.  You might wish to ask 
there and see if anyone else advises to make any other changes in your 
settings.  You can subscribe by sending a message to idevi...@groups.io.


Dave


On 12/10/2023 3:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Can you be more specific? How do you answer your call, do you use a 2-finger double tap 
(magic tap) or do you find and tap the "Answer" button?
I have an iPhone 13 Pro and both methods work for me.
If you are on iOS 17.1 or 17.2 have you increased the double tap response time 
a little? This really made a difference for me with the issue where a double 
tap was simply registered as a single tap meaning you try to double tap say a 
home screen icon to open an app but instead you would simply put focus 
elsewhere on the screen.
This is in Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Double Tap Time Out.
I believe the default is 0.3 seconds and I changed it to 0.5 seconds on the 
recommendation of somebody else (sorry, forgot who it was).

-Original Message-
From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 11:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: answering a call



Hi all,

Is anyone on the list having an issue ansering a call intermittently?

I am.

I have an iPhone 14 plus. Running latest update.
Thankks.

Linda c. Knight

Linda C. Knight and Gentle Ben and Mr. Crumb




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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I just checked and zoom is off.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

You don't have Zoom on do you?

Richard, USA
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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
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On Dec 13, 2023, at 10:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:
It works fairly reliably for me, but like I said, I do a three finger tap to 
get the time and a four finger tap to get the minutes. I don't know why I need 
three and four taps while others can use two and three taps. I find I also need 
the screen to be off, so if I'm not sure, I'll lift my wrist a bit and then 
drop it back down before tapping my phone. I'd also suggest practicing a bit. 
It took me a while to get down the pace of my tapping, for example, I tap a bit 
slower when getting my time hapticly then I do when I tap on an object on the 
screen.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one of 
the recent updates.
I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...

Richard, USA
"Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it."
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
2024.2310.70.400

-Original Message-
From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

Christopher,

Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch.

But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.

Smile.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
is true for anyone else.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Parham 
Doustdar
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

Hi,
Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just 
the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
Hope that helps.

On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello list

I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings?

Regards

Fanus

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How to get rid of somebody’s email address that is no longer valid

2023-12-13 Thread Mary Otten

I want to delete an email address that belonged to my husband. He changed it to 
something different. I changed it in the contact I have for him on the phone. 
But when I go into email and type the first part of his name, that old address 
still shows up. I know there’s a way to get rid of it. I don’t remember, and I 
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Re: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Mary Otten

I just tried that three taps instead of two, and I got voiceover telling me the 
time that it was 240. Not what I wanted.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> It works fairly reliably for me, but like I said, I do a three finger tap to 
> get the time and a four finger tap to get the minutes. I don't know why I 
> need three and four taps while others can use two and three taps. I find I 
> also need the screen to be off, so if I'm not sure, I'll lift my wrist a bit 
> and then drop it back down before tapping my phone. I'd also suggest 
> practicing a bit. It took me a while to get down the pace of my tapping, for 
> example, I tap a bit slower when getting my time hapticly then I do when I 
> tap on an object on the screen.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 10:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
> haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
> I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one 
> of the recent updates.
> I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it."
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
> 2024.2310.70.400
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> 
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch.
> 
> But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.
> 
> Smile.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
> minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
> is true for anyone else.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Parham 
> Doustdar
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Haptic time
> 
> Hi,
> Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
> that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
> well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me 
> just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
> Hope that helps.
> 
>> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> 
>> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
>> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
>> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
>> settings?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Fanus
>> 
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RE: How to get rid of somebody’s email address that is no longer valid

2023-12-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Go into your email and type the first part of his name. Hit the down arrow to 
move down through the list of suggestions and hit the delete key on the address 
you want to remove from your recents list.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 4:38 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: How to get rid of somebody’s email address that is no longer valid

I want to delete an email address that belonged to my husband. He changed it to 
something different. I changed it in the contact I have for him on the phone. 
But when I go into email and type the first part of his name, that old address 
still shows up. I know there’s a way to get rid of it. I don’t remember, and I 
have looked through the Mail settings and found nothing that looked like what I 
wanted. Any ideas out there?
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Re: How to get rid of somebody’s email address that is no longer valid

2023-12-13 Thread Mary Otten

Thanks. After posting, I actually found that. You can just flick up on the 
address to delete and it deletes. Actions are available I guess. Felt pretty 
stupid.
Sent from my iPhone

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> I want to delete an email address that belonged to my husband. He changed it 
> to something different. I changed it in the contact I have for him on the 
> phone. But when I go into email and type the first part of his name, that old 
> address still shows up. I know there’s a way to get rid of it. I don’t 
> remember, and I have looked through the Mail settings and found nothing that 
> looked like what I wanted. Any ideas out there?
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Why aren’t messages deleted if I deleted on one device?

2023-12-13 Thread Mary Otten

I get text messages, and I have an Apple Watch and an iPhone. If I delete 
something on my iPhone, it will even say this will be deleted on all of your 
devices, but it isn’t. And I don’t think the watch actually says things will be 
deleted on all my devices, but why not? And this could also apply to 
notifications. If I have notifications on my screen and I delete them all from 
the lock screen, why do I have to continue to do that when I go into 
notifications? I don’t want to keep deleting and deleting and deleting the same 
darn thing on multiple devices in multiple places. What am I missing? I want 
them gone everywhere if I deleted once. Is that too much to ask or am I missing 
something?
Mary

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Re: answering a call

2023-12-13 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

I actually made my double tap time faster not slower.  I had no
problems when double tapping when using my iPhone screen.  Of course,
I mostly use my Hable One with my phone, not the screen, but when I do
use the screen on my iPhone 13 pro max, I have no issues double
tapping and it working correctly.

On 12/13/23, David Grossoehme  wrote:
> This was discussed on the idevice email list.  You might wish to ask
> there and see if anyone else advises to make any other changes in your
> settings.  You can subscribe by sending a message to idevi...@groups.io.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 12/10/2023 3:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Can you be more specific? How do you answer your call, do you use a
>> 2-finger double tap (magic tap) or do you find and tap the "Answer"
>> button?
>> I have an iPhone 13 Pro and both methods work for me.
>> If you are on iOS 17.1 or 17.2 have you increased the double tap response
>> time a little? This really made a difference for me with the issue where a
>> double tap was simply registered as a single tap meaning you try to double
>> tap say a home screen icon to open an app but instead you would simply put
>> focus elsewhere on the screen.
>> This is in Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Double Tap Time Out.
>> I believe the default is 0.3 seconds and I changed it to 0.5 seconds on
>> the recommendation of somebody else (sorry, forgot who it was).
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 11:25 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: answering a call
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Is anyone on the list having an issue ansering a call intermittently?
>>
>> I am.
>>
>> I have an iPhone 14 plus. Running latest update.
>> Thankks.
>>
>> Linda c. Knight
>>
>> Linda C. Knight and Gentle Ben and Mr. Crumb
>>
>>
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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't know if 
officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one of 
the recent updates.
I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...

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-Original Message-
From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

Christopher,

Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. 

But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.

Smile.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Haptic time

I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
is true for anyone else.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Parham 
Doustdar
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

Hi,
Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me just 
the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
Hope that helps.

> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>
> Hello list
>
> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
> settings?
>
> Regards
>
> Fanus
>
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Re: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone

On my Watch Series 9,  two taps always works fine
Harry

> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't know 
> if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
> haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
> I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one 
> of the recent updates.
> I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> 
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. 
> 
> But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.
> 
> Smile.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
> minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
> is true for anyone else.
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Parham 
> Doustdar
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Haptic time
> 
> Hi,
> Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
> that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
> well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me 
> just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
> Hope that helps.
> 
>> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> 
>> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
>> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
>> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
>> settings?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Fanus
>> 
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RE: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

I just tried a 1-finger double tap about 8 or 10 times in a row, of course I 
made sure the watch was locked/asleep after each time, but not once did it giv 
eme haptic time.
I wonder if there is some other setting which causes  you to tap 3 times and 4 
times instead of 2 and 3 times.

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Haptic time

On my Watch Series 9,  two taps always works fine Harry

> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't know 
> if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
> haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
> I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one 
> of the recent updates.
> I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
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> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> 
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch. 
> 
> But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.
> 
> Smile.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Haptic time
> 
> I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
> minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if this 
> is true for anyone else.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Parham Doustdar
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Haptic time
> 
> Hi,
> Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've noticed 
> that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen doesn't work 
> well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes it gives me 
> just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
> Hope that helps.
> 
>> On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> 
>> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part of 
>> VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the night 
>> without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand gesture 
>> settings?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
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Re: Haptic time

2023-12-13 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone

One finger double tap has worked for me for about a year,  but I do recall that 
on my previous Series 7 watch I had to do several resets until it started 
working properly!  It really should not be left in this precarious state by 
Apple! 
Harry

> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I just tried a 1-finger double tap about 8 or 10 times in a row, of course I 
> made sure the watch was locked/asleep after each time, but not once did it 
> giv eme haptic time.
> I wonder if there is some other setting which causes  you to tap 3 times and 
> 4 times instead of 2 and 3 times.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 11:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Haptic time
> 
> On my Watch Series 9,  two taps always works fine Harry
> 
>> On 14 Dec 2023, at 07:06, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> 3 and 4 taps work quite reliably on my new Apple Watch Ultra 2, I don't 
>> know if officially Apple has changed this or not, but 2 rarely seems to work.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Haptic time
>> 
>> I just also discovered that 3 one finger taps gets me the hour and minute in 
>> haptic time and 4 taps get the minutes...
>> I had very mixed success with 2 taps lately, so I'm guessing this is in one 
>> of the recent updates.
>> I'm currently running 10.1.1 I haven't updated to 10.2 I guess...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS
>> version 2024.2310.70.400
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Linda C. Knight' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 8:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Haptic time
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Christopher,
>> 
>> Fighting this haptic thing is making me hate the watch.
>> 
>> But being deaf I can't afford to not have it.
>> 
>> Smile.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 05:05
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Haptic time
>> 
>> I've had to use three taps to get the time and four taps to get just the 
>> minutes for quite a while now. Not sure when it started, and not sure if 
>> this is true for anyone else.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Parham Doustdar
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 3:20 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Haptic time
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Haptic time doesn't need speech, that's the main point. However, I've 
>> noticed that with one of the WatchOS updates, double-tapping the screen 
>> doesn't work well. So, what I often do is tap the screen 3 times. Sometimes 
>> it gives me just the minutes, but often it gives me the hour and minutes.
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
 On 13 Dec 2023, at 09:47, Fanus  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello list
>>> 
>>> I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time is part 
>>> of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the time during the 
>>> night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic tap under the hand 
>>> gesture settings?
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Fanus
>>> 
>>> 
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