Connecting iCloud email to google groups?

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

I haven’t done this in a while, but I wish to connect my iCloud email address 
to my gmail account so I can choose what email address group mail goes too.  
Can someone remind me how to do this?

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Re: 2 iPad 6th generations for sell, in perfect condition

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Sorry, spell check corrected the email it should read

apple.4.l...@icloud.com <mailto:apple.4.l...@icloud.com>
thanks.

> On Nov 26, 2018, at 8:17 AM, 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Let me start by saying I was given permission to post this by the mod.  2nd 
> please do not reply on list, send all interest to
> app.4.l...@icloud.com <mailto:app.4.l...@icloud.com>
> Now to the good stuff.  2 iPad 6th generations 128GB for sale.  Decided to go 
> with the 2018 MacMini instead of using this for my computing needs.  One of 
> them has a slim folio keyboard that puts the iPad in land scape viewing mode 
> to type, although I could sell the keyboard separately.  Asking for the 
> bundle of iPad 128gb 6th gen and slim folio keyboard, 400 or best offer.  For 
> the other iPad, asking 375 or best offer.  Again, please contact me at
> apple.4.l...@icloud.com <mailto:apple.4.l...@icloud.com>
> Serious offers only
> Thanks.
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2 iPad 6th generations for sell, in perfect condition

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Let me start by saying I was given permission to post this by the mod.  2nd 
please do not reply on list, send all interest to
app.4.l...@icloud.com
Now to the good stuff.  2 iPad 6th generations 128GB for sale.  Decided to go 
with the 2018 MacMini instead of using this for my computing needs.  One of 
them has a slim folio keyboard that puts the iPad in land scape viewing mode to 
type, although I could sell the keyboard separately.  Asking for the bundle of 
iPad 128gb 6th gen and slim folio keyboard, 400 or best offer.  For the other 
iPad, asking 375 or best offer.  Again, please contact me at
apple.4.l...@icloud.com 
Serious offers only
Thanks.

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Re: Acquiring help to get a brill display

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Oh, that would be a deal breaker.  How many cells is it?  I would need it to 
pair with the phone.

> On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
> 
> Yes, BrailleMe is sold in the U.S. by National Braille Press,
>  
> www.nbp.org <http://www.nbp.org/>
>  
> I could never get it to pair with the phone, but your mileage might vary. It 
> was about $500.
>  
> Susie
>  
>  
> From: 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 1:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Acquiring help to get a brill display
>  
> Is the braille me being sold now?
>  
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Richard Turner > <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> You could ask Siri.
>> You could search the internet.
>> You could call your local NFB chapter.
>> Depending on your credit standing, you could check with your local bank, 
>> though I'm sure the loan interest would be a bit high.
>> 
>> I live in Oregon, so I have no idea what resources there are in Colorado.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Rebecca Sabo
>> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 6:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Acquiring help to get a brill display
>> 
>> Hi 
>> I live in Colorado.  Where do i look for organizations to help me purchase 
>> the item?  I am a member of the NFB.  How do I fine a local lions group or 
>> the other organization that you suggested?
>> Becky
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:32 AM, Richard Turner > <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Depending on where you live, there may be low interest loans available. In 
>> Washington state and Oregon there is such a service. You night also try your 
>> local lions club or American council of the blind or national federation of 
>> the blind. Or start saving toward one that is lower cost like the orbit 
>> reader and braille me. Both under five hundred dollars.
>> Richard 
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Re: Acquiring help to get a brill display

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Is the braille me being sold now?

> On Nov 9, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> You could ask Siri.
> You could search the internet.
> You could call your local NFB chapter.
> Depending on your credit standing, you could check with your local bank, 
> though I'm sure the loan interest would be a bit high.
> 
> I live in Oregon, so I have no idea what resources there are in Colorado.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Rebecca Sabo
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 6:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Acquiring help to get a brill display
> 
> Hi 
> I live in Colorado.  Where do i look for organizations to help me purchase 
> the item?  I am a member of the NFB.  How do I fine a local lions group or 
> the other organization that you suggested?
> Becky
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:32 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Depending on where you live, there may be low interest loans available. In 
>> Washington state and Oregon there is such a service. You night also try your 
>> local lions club or American council of the blind or national federation of 
>> the blind. Or start saving toward one that is lower cost like the orbit 
>> reader and braille me. Both under five hundred dollars.
>> Richard 
>> 
>> 
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>> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
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Re: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

For the record, the xs max gives me great battery life.  I have used it up to 
30 hours before having to charge it.  I use it for everything.  Email, texting, 
push notifications, streaming music and youtube, phone calls, among shopping on 
e-bay and amazon.  I keep my screen brightness on 0, so that may have a little 
bit to do with why my battery lasts so long, but other than that, it has not 
disappointed me at all.
Personally, the only reason I got the xs max, is cause it was buy one, get 750 
bucks off another, so I jumped at that, plus I got almost 600 bucks for when 
selling the x, so I was pretty much halfway paid for when I walked threw the 
door.
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> On Oct 31, 2018, at 11:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I agree with Cristobal, some of these tech writers I guess have to write 
> something even if it’s mostly complete nonsense. He writes about upgrading 
> from an iPhone X to an XR for example, now why in the world would anybody 
> want to do this? He mentions things like 3D Touch, aluminum vs stainless 
> steel, the less hard Gorilla glass on the back vs the newer and harder glass 
> on both front and back on the XS and XS Max. I mean Daa, it costs $250 less 
> so what do you expect? If it had all the same stuff then what’s the point?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [
>  
> I bought the XR, because pretty much everything that isn’t available there is 
> visual. 3D Touch is one exception, but since I almost never use it, it just 
> wasn’t a big thing. So far, no regrets. I will take the better battery life 
> any day, since I use my phone for so many things.
> Mary
> 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 31, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Andy Baracco  <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>> wrote:
> 
> Well, you get what you pay for, and for me, the compromises, which are mostly 
> visual, wouldn't deter me from buying the XR.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Cristobal Muñoz <mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:33 PM
> Subject: RE: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [
>  
> This almost feels like clickbait. I mean, some of these points really feel 
> like straw grasping. *gasp* You might need to buy a third party case? The 
> horror. Who really is upgrading from an X to an XR?Slippery band? Seriously?
>  
> Cristóbal
>  
> From: 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [
>  
> I’ve been tempted to get the XR but I don’t think I’m upgrading.
> 
> On Oct 31, 2018, at 4:11 PM, 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
> Jeff Benjamin <https://9to5mac.com/author/bnjmorg/>
> <~WRD154.jpg>
> In our hands-on iPhone XR top features 
> <https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/27/top-iphone-xr-features-best-bang-for-the-buck-video/>post,
>  we discussed twenty of the best features found on Apple’s budget-minded 
> iPhone. The iPhone XR, as it turns out, is a great phone that I think anyone 
> looking to upgrade from pre-iPhone X devices should consider. It features the 
> same A12 processor as the latest iPhone XS, the same enhanced wide angle 
> camera, and comes with high-end niceties like an all-screen display and Face 
> ID.
> The iPhone XR is a compelling new hardware release for Apple, and it starts 
> at $749, which is much less than the $999 entry-level price of the flagship 
> iPhone XS. Yet, the iPhone XR isn’t perfect. Compromises needed to be made to 
> meet such a price point, and some of those compromises are relatively 
> glaring. Watch our hands-on video as we consider some of the worst iPhone XR 
> features.
> LCD screen
> 
> The LCD has its benefits. First and foremost, it’s significantly cheaper than 
> the OLED screen found in the iPhone XS. It’s also brighter, and yields better 
> battery life overall. If you’re coming from a device like the iPhone 7 or

Re: Ring tones won't sync, any suggestions?

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Yes I can, and the weird thing is, when I plug iPad into computer, it shows the 
ring tones in the ring tone section, like they are there.  But as soon as I 
unplug it, no tones in the sounds ring tones section of my iPad.

> On Oct 28, 2018, at 10:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I don’t have an iPad so I have no idea whether it makes a difference, but I 
> can’t think of why it should make a difference.
> Can you sync them to your iPhone successfully?
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 8:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Ring tones won't sync, any suggestions?
>  
> Sieghard here is the dropbox link to the ring tones I am trying to sync with 
> my iPad
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kukml7v47xjeacc/AAChlYWO-APmKehKUnN_7Zyea?dl=0 
> <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kukml7v47xjeacc/AAChlYWO-APmKehKUnN_7Zyea?dl=0>
>  
> Let me know what you come up with.  Remember, this is on iPad, not iPhone.
> On Oct 27, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>  
> Could you send the ringtone that isn't syncing, may be some of us could try 
> it on their phones to see if it works.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> 
> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 10:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Ring tones won't sync, any suggestions?
> 
> Ok, I have done this the iTunes way, have pasted the tones I want into the 
> ring tones section of iTunes.  An article suggested doing 1 at a time, tried 
> that, no go.  I even restored my iPad, to see if that would fix the issue. 
> Still, no go.  But this method above works on my iPhone.  Any idea’s?  I was 
> thinking about just importing them into garage band, but think you have to 
> jump threw a bunch of hoops to do that.  I am open to suggestions please.
> 
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Re: Ring tones won't sync, any suggestions?

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Sieghard here is the dropbox link to the ring tones I am trying to sync with my 
iPad
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kukml7v47xjeacc/AAChlYWO-APmKehKUnN_7Zyea?dl=0 
<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kukml7v47xjeacc/AAChlYWO-APmKehKUnN_7Zyea?dl=0>

Let me know what you come up with.  Remember, this is on iPad, not iPhone.
> On Oct 27, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Could you send the ringtone that isn't syncing, may be some of us could try 
> it on their phones to see if it works.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone  
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Ring tones won't sync, any suggestions?
> 
> Ok, I have done this the iTunes way, have pasted the tones I want into the 
> ring tones section of iTunes.  An article suggested doing 1 at a time, tried 
> that, no go.  I even restored my iPad, to see if that would fix the issue. 
> Still, no go.  But this method above works on my iPhone.  Any idea’s?  I was 
> thinking about just importing them into garage band, but think you have to 
> jump threw a bunch of hoops to do that.  I am open to suggestions please.
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Re: Ring tones won't sync, any suggestions?

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Yes, and it makes the sound like they are synced, even tells me in the sections 
after ring tone header how many are there, but they are not showing up.  And to 
be clear, this is on my iPad, not iPhone.
> On Oct 27, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> Have you hit enter on the file while in iTunes, in the tones list with your 
> phone connected?
> You should hear the sound when iTunes has added something. 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books 
> which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 
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>> On Oct 27, 2018, at 10:14 AM, 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone 
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>> ring tones section of iTunes.  An article suggested doing 1 at a time, tried 
>> that, no go.  I even restored my iPad, to see if that would fix the issue. 
>> Still, no go.  But this method above works on my iPhone.  Any idea’s?  I was 
>> thinking about just importing them into garage band, but think you have to 
>> jump threw a bunch of hoops to do that.  I am open to suggestions please.
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Ring tones won't sync, any suggestions?

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Ok, I have done this the iTunes way, have pasted the tones I want into the ring 
tones section of iTunes.  An article suggested doing 1 at a time, tried that, 
no go.  I even restored my iPad, to see if that would fix the issue. Still, no 
go.  But this method above works on my iPhone.  Any idea’s?  I was thinking 
about just importing them into garage band, but think you have to jump threw a 
bunch of hoops to do that.  I am open to suggestions please.

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Re: Google photos question

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All you do is install the backup and sync app by google, tell it you want to 
sync photos, check the area where your photos are stored, and let it do it’s 
thing.  I will say this is easier to do from phone or iPad, but is possible 
from PC or Mac.

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:48 AM, Wendy Alling  wrote:
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> Hi everyone, I have some photos on my computer that I want to upload into 
> Google Photos. Can this be done? Do I have to put the photos on my phone 
> first? Any help is appreciated, thank you
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Re: Walkie-talkie on Apple WatchMy wife and I now have a new Apple Watch. When I want to start talking I double tap on the talk with one finger and hold but we can’t seem to get the two way conversati

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Well, I have a series 4, and the way it works for me is double tap let go, 
talk, double tap, let go, and it sends
I tried the double tap and hold, and it does nothing.

> On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:44 AM, Apple Gourmet-  wrote:
> 
> The walkie-talkie app it’s quite easy to use and navigate.   It works the 
> same way whether you are on the Apple Watch Series 2, series 3 or 4.
> Using it with voiceover is also quite simple. You have to tap and hold the 
> talk button to talk.  Release the talk button  once you are finished with 
> your message.
> If you are still unable to do it, I suggest you click on this link below to 
> get my directions on how to set up and use walkie-talkie call 
> https://www.macobserver.com/tips/how-to/watchos-5-walkie-talkie-apple-watch/ 
> Best of luck! 
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Re: Walkie-talkie on Apple WatchMy wife and I now have a new Apple Watch. When I want to start talking I double tap on the talk with one finger and hold but we can’t seem to get the two way conversati

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No, you double tap and let go to talk, then double tap and let go to send it.


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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Actually, apple bought a company to get touchID on screens with no buttons like 
Samsung.  The issue they are having is the feature makes the phone a lot 
thicker than they want it.  So right now they are working on how to keep the 
phone thin, and have this software in it that will allow you to use touchID 
anywhere on the screen.  At least that is what I was told by a few reliable 
apple techs.

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi sieghard,
> Of course people didn’t complain when  touch ID was introduced, because it’s 
> easy, for the vast majority of people at least, and it’s more convenient than 
> a passcode. You still didn’t have to use it. You could keep using the 
> passcode if that’s what you wanted. Now we have Face ID or nothing going 
> forward, once the iPhone 8 and older are out of the system. Of course, you 
> can go back to using just the passcode, which is a downgrade from using touch 
> ID. For my particular use case, face ID is less convenient, and we’ve already 
> had the discussion about security issues surrounding having attention mode 
> turned off. The fact that some manufacturers, such as Samsung, are still 
> offering a choice between face recognition or a fingerprint sensor would 
> indicate that there is some validity to the idea that not everybody is 
> thrilled with face ID. All I wish is that Apple gave us that choice. They 
> choose not to. So there you go. 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi   Marry,
>> 
>> You say we shouldn't be forced to use Face Id, interestingly 
>> enough when Apple introduced Touch Id or enter a passcode I don't recall 
>> people complaining about being "dforced" to use Touch Id. Of course this 
>> mainly had to do because prior to Touch Id it was enter a passcode or 
>> nothing, but Apple has shown that Face Id is more secure by a huge factor 
>> and we all know it has always been Apple's way to give us what they think is 
>> best so there is little point foro anybody to complain, just like with the 
>> 3.5mm audio jack, Apple   will not suddenly say next year that based on 
>> popular demand they are bringing back Touch Id and in any case, if it was 
>> put up to a vote I doubt Touch Id would win especially now with the improved 
>> Face Id, also unless they can figure out how to let you put your finger 
>> anywhere on the screen for Touch Id, where would they put the Touch Id 
>> sensor. If you follow the tech news a bit you know how much people 
>> complained when I think it was Samsung put the Touch Id sensor on the back 
>> of the phone because they of course also got rid of the home button. It is 
>> my guess that one day phones will have no more buttons at all except maybe 
>> for the on/off button.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
>> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have 
>> to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize 
>> the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain 
>> out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has 
>> a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another, 
>> we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get 
>> real. I think there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use 
>> Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner 
>> or later, he will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay 
>> with Apple.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
>>> the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
>>> iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
 
 A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling 
 me
 how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
 reply, "Good for you."
 
 Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
 opener
 which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
 
 
 Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
 feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
 

Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Mark, also remember that although the 8Plus is the same size as the max, on the 
max there is screen where the home button and top speaker is on the max, thus 
giving the max more screen.  I felt both of them, and I think the max is much 
better design.  JMO

> On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not intended
> to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything.
> 
> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected,
> there were almost no customers.  
> 
> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic
> Apple representative.  
> 
> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really wanted
> to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size.  As you
> may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I
> discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow
> me, enough.
> 
> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern
> phablets, the Samsun Mega.  I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches.  Its
> physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I was
> a little kid playing with a grown-up's device.  I just couldn't stop
> grinning, every time I held it in my hand.
> 
> It was huge  Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it.  It felt,
> just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a tablet
> computer.  
> 
> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my
> friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega.  (smile)  
> 
> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like Android
> enough to make the investment.  Soon after, Samsung stopped making the Mega.
> 
> 
> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on
> some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on
> the 10 S Max.  It didn't happen.  In fact, believe it or not, the actual
> body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus.  
> 
> I was so disappointed.  I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple sales
> rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention.  
> 
> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the 10
> S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be larger,
> much larger than my beloved 8 Plus.  In fact, I suppose, I was counting on
> it.  
> 
> The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much better
> the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, blah!.  
> 
> All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S Max from
> my beloved 8 Plus.  
> 
> As for the Apple watch?  Same scenario.  If there is any major size
> difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a new
> watch.  
> 
> Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays
> without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind of a
> let-down.  I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me at least,
> it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for better or worse,
> set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to return.
> 
> Mark
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Re: Gmail and push?

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Really, what do you consider push?  I have the gmail app installed on my phone, 
and I get notifications whenever a new message arrives, even in labels other 
than the in box.

> On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:36 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am wondering why Gmail doesn't support push on the iOS devices? I know 
> iCloud and Outlook do but I've always wondered why Gmail doesn't.
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Re: iPhone XR vs iPhone 8: What's the Difference

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Let’s be clear here.  The screen size is bigger, not actual size.  Remember the 
XR is going to be edge to edge.  The screen size of the X is 5.8, and the 6, 7, 
and 8, are all 4.7.  But the x is actually smaller then all of those because of 
being edge to edge, really nice phone too, just sole mine this morning to get 
the max, or XR, not sure just yet.

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 5:52 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Kenny,
> Maybe talk to your phone carrier about a trade in.  I think most if not all 
> phone carriers are doing some kind of trade in promotion.  My only concern 
> about the xr phone in which is what I would like, it might be too large for 
> my hands.  From my understanding, the xr phone is much larger than my phone 
> 6.  I will have to wait to go to a store and feel the xr for myself. 
> But then again, I just might take a watch and wait approach.  If I update to 
> iOS 12, and maybe get the battery replacement before December, I might not 
> even need to update, but I’ll see.  
> A lot to think about. 
> Janet
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Kenny
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 5:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: iPhone XR vs iPhone 8: What's the Difference
>  
> Man! I just purchased a new iPhone 8 2 months ago. Wish I could find an easy 
> way to sell it, so I could get this new iPhone XR model instead. Sounds like 
> a nice phone.
> 
>  
> 
> On 9/17/2018 12:03 PM, Traci Duncan wrote:
>  
> This might interest some people who are on the fence about upgrading. 
>  
> 
> http://www.iphonehacks.com/2018/09/iphone-xr-vs-iphone-8-whats-the-difference.html
>  
> 
> iPhone XR vs iPhone 8: What’s the Difference
> img class="aligncenter" 
> src="http://cdn.iphonehacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/iPhone-XR-Best-Features-11.png
>  
> "
>  alt="iPhone XR vs iPhone 8: What's the Difference" / 
> Despite its size suggesting otherwise, the iPhone XR replaces the iPhone 8 
>  in Apple’s iPhone lineup. This is more 
> because of the way it has been priced as it is the cheapest newest iPhone in 
> Apple’s 2018 iPhone lineup. There’s a huge size difference between the two 
> but given how Apple has priced the iPhone XR, it is likely going to be the 
> most popular iPhone of all the three handsets.
> 
> What is the difference between iPhone XR and iPhone 8?
> 
> So, how does the iPhone 8 compare to the iPhone XR? Is the latter really that 
> much better? Let’s find out in our comparison.
> 
> Design
> 
> iPhone XR – 150.9 x 75.7 x 8.3 mm and 194g, IP67 certified
> iPhone 8 – 138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 148g, IP67 certified
> The iPhone XR is substantially larger than the iPhone 8. This is largely due 
> to the former coming with a bigger 6.1-inch LCD display. Despite the 1.4-inch 
> jump in screen size, the iPhone XR is still relatively compact since it 
> features an almost bezel-less display. Both phones are IP67 certified. Unlike 
> the iPhone 8, the iPhone XR is also available in a bunch of colors including 
> Red, Yellow, and Orange.
> 
> Display
> 
> iPhone XR – 6.1-inch True Tone Liquid Retina LCD display, 1792 x 828 pixels 
> (326 ppi), No 3D Touch
> iPhone 8 – 4.7-inch True Tone Retina HD IPS LCD display, 1334 x 750 pixel 
> (326 ppi), 3D Touch
> The iPhone XR comes with a bigger and higher resolution Liquid Retina 
> display. Apple claims it is the most color accurate LCD display in the market 
> right now. However, unlike the 4.7-inch display of the iPhone 8, the iPhone 
> XR lacks 3D Touch.
> 
> Processor
> 
> iPhone XR – A12 Bionic, 7nm chip, 6-core CPU which is 15 percent faster, 50 
> percent faster 4-core GPU, 8-core Neural engine
> iPhone 8 – A11 Bionic, 10nm chip, 6-core CPU, 4-core GPU, Neural engine
> Apple’s A11 Bionic chip from last year is still a powerhouse when it comes to 
> performance. With the iPhone Xs though, Apple is taking things to a different 
> level altogether. The two performance cores in A12 bionic are up to 15 
> percent faster, while the 4 efficiency cores consume 50 percent less power 
> when compared to the A11 Bionic. The 4-core GPU also offers 50 percent faster 
> performance when compared to the A11 Bionic and it has been optimized 
> specifically for Metal 2.
> 
> The 8-core Neural engine is getting a massive performance boost as well. It 
> is now capable of processing 5 trillion operations per second, while the A11 
> Bionic’s Neural engine tops out at 600 million operations/sec. This allows 
> the A12 Bionic to complete certain system tasks faster and also greatly helps 
> in quickly completing complex calculations for Memoji and Animoji.
> 
> img class="aligncenter" 
> 

Re: What are the advantages of XS over XR for a blind user?

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

If you get it directly from apple, the only thing that would tie it to a 
carrier is your SIM card.  All phones from apple this year are factory 
unlocked.  It says this when you go to order threw the Apple Store app.

> On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:09 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Supposedly the XR will not be available factory unlocked right away, not sure 
> why. I'm not planning on upgrading this year but if I was the XR would be the 
> phone I would get although I would wait until it was available unlocked, I 
> don't want any phone that is tied to a carrier.
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2018, at 6:14 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> The XS is slightly smaller and lighter then the XR. 5.8 inch display versus 
>> 6.1 inch and 177 grams as compared to 194 grams. 
>> 
>> 
>>On 09/14/2018 11:58 AM, Cris Ali wrote:
>>> Thanks Richard.  That is what I also remember from listening to the apple 
>>> event.  I could only remember three differences between the XS and the XR.  
>>> XS has 3D touch and the XR does not.  XS has dual camera and the XR has a 
>>> single camera.  The XS has an olade display and the XR has a traditional 
>>> liquid LCD display.  I thought both models have stereo recording, although 
>>> not important for me.  They both have dual sim, one electronic and one 
>>> physical.  The model available in China will have two physical sims.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Cris 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 12:46 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: What are the advantages of XS over XR for a blind user?
>>> 
>>> To be clear, below is the XR specs for recording and Sim card.
>>> This is from the Apple specifications.
>>> Video formats recorded: HEVC and H.264
>>> Stereo recording
>>> 
>>> SIM Card | 
>>> Dual SIM (nano-SIM and eSIM) 11
>>> iPhone XR is not compatible with existing micro-SIM cards.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Devin Prater
>>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 9:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: What are the advantages of XS over XR for a blind user?
>>> 
>>> The specs of the XR do state that stereo recording is available, as well as 
>>> the better stereo sound. I myself can't wait to hear the fruits of all 
>>> that, in stereo videos and recordings all over the Internet. I'd have to 
>>> look around for the DualSim stuff though., 
>>> 
>>> Devin Prater
>>> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
>>> JAWS certified 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Mosen seemed to think that only the S products can record in 
>>> stereo. If that's true and you're a podcaster, that would be something to 
>>> consider. Also if you travel a lot, the dual SiM capabilities of the S 
>>> phones might be helpful. I'm pretty sure that feature isn't on the R 
>>> phones. I would suggest checking the specs on the Apple website to be sure, 
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:19 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For the CPU, GPU, and Neural chip, there is no difference. None at all. So 
>>> yes, get the XR. 
>>> 
>>> Devin Prater
>>> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
>>> JAWS certified 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That and fretting over camera quality for things like OCR and other 
>>> recognition apps/tasks between the two devices is probably unnecessary. The 
>>> more important and impactful aspect for processing such tasks at this point 
>>> will have more to do with processing speed and whatever other goodies are 
>>> under the hood. Which again, for that price difference, I don’t’ think it 
>>> could possibly be that much of a gap.
>>> It’s not like scanning a barcode will be as resource intensive as playing 
>>> an intense graphical game. 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 8:47 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: What are the advantages of XS over XR for a blind user?
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure I qualify as tech savvy. But I see absolutely no reason to 
>>> spend more money for the XS or even X max. Even with the advantage of the 
>>> OLED display, which should give better battery life, according to apples on 
>>> specs, the EXR wins in that category. So I just can’t see any reason, if 
>>> you want a new phone this year and don’t absolutely want the home button, 
>>> why should you spend anymore than you have to? I think the XR with 128 gigs 
>>> is the sweet spot.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello folks,
>>> This is a question for the tech savvy iPhone users.  What are the 
>>> advantages of buying iPhone XS over iPhone XR for a totally blind user?  
>>> 

Re: Newest 3 iPhones, Radios and Modems

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

If you get it directly from apple, it will work with any carrier.  The blurb I 
read when setting up my iPhone upgrade program said, you will get a sim free 
phone, with your carriers Simmcard.  So that leads me to believe that all 
phones are being made the same.  I also read that t mobile and sprint are 
taking advantage of there newly built service over the past year.

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 4:45 PM, 'Dan' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> The different bands for cell service so that I can clearly decide what 
> carrier I want to use or to stay with my current carrier. In other words, I 
> want to purchace an iPhone that will work on any network where I decide to 
> go. This is also why I asked about the modems as well.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:34 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
>> 
>> What do you mean by radio?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Dan' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Newest 3 iPhones, Radios and Modems
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Thanks for that. It's about time!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:19 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I read an article somewhere in the tech press today, I can’t remember the 
>>> source, which said that the modem is the same in all models of iPhone X.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:18 PM, 'Dan' via VIPhone  
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Does anyone know if all three iPhones  have the same radios and modems no 
 matter where purchased?
 In years past, there was a difference in modems for  example between 
 Verizon and T-mobile.
 
 
 
 Dan
 
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My thoughts on new lineup of phones

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

>> I think apple has appealed to all audiences here.  There is a high cost 
>> phone that has all the great video and photo taking tools.  And even has 
>> stereo microphones and speakers, and a great looking stainless steel body.  
>> Then you have the XR that is priced at the same price that the 6 and above 
>> was.  And your not losing much quality, it’s even a bit larger than the X 
>> and XS, has longer battery life, and even comes in different colors.  And 
>> let’s be frank here.  A little under 10 years ago, you had to spend 400 
>> bucks for a phone, and then spend 300 more bucks to get mobile speak or talk 
>> back or whatever the Nokia version was.  That equals 700 bucks, and low and 
>> behold, the low priced iPhone for the last 5 years is 700 bucks, 50 bucks 
>> more if you want more storage.  So I don’t think this is a bad price point 
>> for apple, they are making sure everyone can get the latest and greatest in 
>> there hands.  And all the carriers let you pay for your device monthly, and 
>> apple even let’s you trade in devices for instant store credit.  This is 
>> just my opinion, but I think just like the low cost iPad that came out this 
>> past spring is a great price point for us as consumers.  I think the XR is 
>> going to be the better selling phone this year.  I don’t think paying an 
>> extra 350 bucks for a better camera, video recorded in stereo, and a 
>> stainless steel back is worth it.  Again, this is my opinion, not fact.  
>> Your thoughts?
>> 
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Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Is that a one time charge, or do you have to pay each season?


> On Sep 9, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> For years i purchased the NFL Audio Pass, even though its accessibility was 
> always questionable. When they dropped it I contacted the NFL, but no joy. I 
> was told that blind folks can just buy the game pass app like everyone else.
>  
> Andy
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: kitty hevener 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 6:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
>> 
>> Marie, Will the profootball ap work with iphone?  If I may ask, how much 
>> does it cost?  Am currently using tune in premium, but would switch if find 
>> something more cost effective. 
>>  
>> From: Marie 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 9:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
>>  
>> Thank you for telling us about this app. I purchased it and used it today 
>> and it is fantastic. Much like the original Pro Football Radio app but 
>> better. What a bargain and I got to listen to the Seahawks game today after 
>> all.
>> Marie
>>  
>>  
>> From: Andy Baracco <>
>> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 12:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
>> Subject: Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
>>  
>> I have an app called Game Day. I can't remember how much it cost, but it was 
>> cheap, around 3 dollars. You get multiple feeds for all of the teams. I 
>> think it is a rebranding of the Pro Football Radio app. I do have that one 
>> as well, and it still works, even though coverage was spotty during the 
>> preseason because many stations don't stream the preseason games.
>> Sirius XM is another alternative as well as Tunein Radio Premium.
>>  
>> Andy
>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Alan Paganelli <>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 5:41 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
>>>  
>>> The problem with the NFL is they aren’t giving anything away for free if 
>>> you want to listen to NFL football you need to buy the entire package it 
>>> isn’t cheap and it isn’t fair  The NFL package was you get to watch the 
>>> games on TV which does me no good being totally like you also get coaches 
>>> watches which is also useless the only part of the package at a useful for 
>>> me is the radio broadcast where you hear the announcers describe the games 
>>> you used to be able to get that one alone for 40 bucks for the entire 
>>> season but now they want you to pay for the whole package which is $99.99  
>>> I am not paying them 100 bucks just to listen to Chicago bears lose again 
>>> or any other team for that matter it isn’t worth 100 bucks for a blind man  
>>> The best thing the end FL can do is to fire Roger get Dale he is the one 
>>> who started this where everything has to cost money
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5s
>>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Julie Dawson > wrote:
>>> 
 perhaps allfootball?
 I remember it working.
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   Love generously,
   Care  deeply,
   Speak  kindly
   And  leave the rest to God! 
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 www.gamesgaloreandmore.com  
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> - Original Message -
> From: kellmast...@gmail.com <>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 1:44 PM
> Subject: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
>  
> A couple of years ago I recommended Pro Football Radio & Live Scores 
> +Highlights by JJACR Apps, LLC to a client to listen to football games.  
> It worked for him for a long time but he says this is no-longer the case. 
> Is there an app that is accessible with VoiceOver on an old iPad that 
> will deliver the audio of all the upcoming pro games? It doesn’t have to 
> be free, but I don’t think he has XM Radio or anything else like that.
> Thanks!
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Re: Another way of listening to games

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

And it works for baseball too, don’t know about basketball, cause I don’t watch 
as much as I use to in the 90’s when the game was better JMO


> On Sep 9, 2018, at 4:41 PM, 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Another app that plays in market games free of charge and is very accessible, 
> is the yahoo sports app.  It works on iPad and iPhone, you can even setup a 
> profile for your favorite teams and sports, and if there are 2 games on in 
> your area, you can switch between them with no hassle at all.
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Another way of listening to games

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Another app that plays in market games free of charge and is very accessible, 
is the yahoo sports app.  It works on iPad and iPhone, you can even setup a 
profile for your favorite teams and sports, and if there are 2 games on in your 
area, you can switch between them with no hassle at all.

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Re: Update on free courses

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Yes, that is the right spot,
https://ttjtech.net <https://ttjtech.net/>

> On Sep 8, 2018, at 5:57 PM, regina alvarado  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I would be interested in iPad as a computer. However, I was directed to a 
> website that said technology for your home. Am I in the right place? If not, 
> can you explain again please how you access this course? Thanks much.
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
> gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
> day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits of 
> a broken heart." So God made a dog.
> 
> 
> On Sep 8, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Louise Peyton  wrote:
> 
> Clifton:
> I tried to access your blog but received a page error message.  Would you 
> please provide the full web page address for your blog?  Thanks.
> Louise Peyton
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 1:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Update on free courses
> 
> Hello, about a month or so ago, I posted a email about free courses for 
> appleTV, replacing your computer with an iPad, extended voiceover training, 
> and a few others.  Well, we got such an over welming response, that the 1st 
> class is full, but there will be a 2nd class for each session, you can get 
> calendar updates, blog posts, and even free podcasts.  Subscribe to the 
> following blog The Tech Juggernaut ⁦‪ttjtech.net‬⁩ All the info you need will 
> be posted there.
> My groups
> Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs: 
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Re: Update on free courses

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Try this one

https://ttjtech.net <https://ttjtech.net/>

Any more trouble, email me off list
kliph...@icloud.com <mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>

> On Sep 8, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Louise Peyton  wrote:
> 
> Clifton:
> I tried to access your blog but received a page error message.  Would you 
> please provide the full web page address for your blog?  Thanks.
> Louise Peyton
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 1:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Update on free courses
> 
> Hello, about a month or so ago, I posted a email about free courses for 
> appleTV, replacing your computer with an iPad, extended voiceover training, 
> and a few others.  Well, we got such an over welming response, that the 1st 
> class is full, but there will be a 2nd class for each session, you can get 
> calendar updates, blog posts, and even free podcasts.  Subscribe to the 
> following blog The Tech Juggernaut ⁦‪ttjtech.net‬⁩ All the info you need will 
> be posted there.
> My groups
> Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs: 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.io%2Fg%2Fpublic-beta-users=02%7C01%7C%7C5483f10c8c34451b1c8f08d615b3ebcb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636720259825151440=kibhjX6rB6Hktpo0VMERoo7uYW38Z9yEiPJHeUSwE%2BY%3D=0
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Update on free courses

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Hello, about a month or so ago, I posted a email about free courses for 
appleTV, replacing your computer with an iPad, extended voiceover training, and 
a few others.  Well, we got such an over welming response, that the 1st class 
is full, but there will be a 2nd class for each session, you can get calendar 
updates, blog posts, and even free podcasts.  Subscribe to the following blog
The Tech Juggernaut ⁦‪ttjtech.net‬⁩
All the info you need will be posted there.
My groups
Beta tester for apple products?  come help squash the bugs: 
https://groups.io/g/public-beta-users
Have a braille display?  Come teach and learn with others
https://groups.io/g/braille-display-users
User of IOS, TVOS, MacOS, and watchOS?  That’s all we discuss in only apple 
talk and support.  Beginners, experienced and medium range users, come 
subscribe here.
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Oats is looking forward to having you!

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Schedule of Free Training Courses Now Available - Please Read

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

> Hi everyone, first off, please share this with others, as I’ll explain later 
> on in the message. Many of you may remember, or may have taken, the iPad 
> training course I offered this past spring. I was really humbled and 
> appreciative of all the positive feedback from that course, and I felt that 
> the response to it was overwhelming.
> 
> I’m now excited to announce that I will be offering more free training 
> courses for 2018-19 training season. In this email I will specify and explain 
> what I am offering, I will provide course dates, and I’ll provide a bit of 
> other general info. I know some of these dates are a good ways off yet, but 
> as I’ll explain, there are benefits to planning now.
> 
> First off, I’ll be offering four major courses over the next year. They are 
> as follows:
> 
> Replacing Your Traditional TV with Apple TV: four sessions, one session per 
> week, beginning Tuesday, October 2, 2018
> 
> Living the Connected Digital Life: Four sessions, one session per week, 
> beginning Tuesday, October 30, 2018
> 
> Learn VOiceover In and Out: eight sessions, two per week, beginning Tuesday, 
> January 22, 2019
> 
> Learning Voiceover In and Out, Section B: Eight Sessions, two per week, 
> beginning Tuesday, February 19, 2019
> 
> IPad for All Computing: 12 Sessions, two per week, beginning Tuesday, April 
> 16, 2019
> 
> The courses which have two days per week will be held on Tuesdays and 
> Thursdays. All courses will be held in the afternoon, with exact start times 
> to be decided. Plan on somewhere around 2PM or 2:30 PM Eastern. Sessions will 
> last for two hours.
> 
> As with prior courses, each course is completely free and is available to 
> everyone, sighted and non sighted alike. As before, courses will be held in 
> Zoom, with an accompanying set of materials, offered as iTunes U courses, 
> with the exception of the Apple TV and Connected Digital Life courses, which 
> will require only small handouts rather than complete iTunes U courses.
> 
> I’ll provide descriptions of each course below. What I’d love is if people 
> would start sharing this entire email with your friends, family, co-workers, 
> etc, and on any other relevant lists you may belong to. Additionally, please 
> let me know which courses interest you. You can reply to this message with 
> any questions, or you can email me off list to simply express interest in any 
> courses. Now for some general descriptions:
> 
> The Apple TV course was sort of requested by several participants in this 
> year’s iPad course. It will be designed to offer participants an overview of 
> what the Apple TV can do and how to use it. We will then get into various 
> options for making the Apple TV your complete living room device, cutting the 
> cord, streaming, etc. what about local channels? How about sports? What does 
> it cost? How many people can watch at the same time? On and on. We’ll answer 
> all the questions we can, with a particular emphasis on Voiceover use as 
> well. You do not need to own an Apple TV to benefit from this course. Even if 
> you are just mildly interested in it and want to explore what’s out there, 
> we’d love for you to join.
> 
> The Connected Digital Life will explore in-depth how to make all your devices 
> work for you no matter where you are. We will spend lots of time on all the 
> iCloud features and services, such as iCloud Photo Library, iTunes in the 
> CLoud, iCloud Drive, and many more. We’ll discuss iCloud Keychain for 
> password and credit card autofill, Apple Pay, continuity, multiple devices 
> together, HomeKit and home automation devices, and much more. Anyone with an 
> iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch, Apple TV, Apple Watch, HomePod, Mac, or any 
> combination of these devices should benefit from this course.
> 
> The Voiceover In and Out course is something I believe many are looking for. 
> You’ll notice I’m offering two sections. This is because I intentionally want 
> to keep enrollment small and look at the students to best Taylor the course 
> to individual needs. This will be perfect for anyone who has never used an 
> Apple device and wants to learn about it, or anyone who has just gotten their 
> first Apple device. Additionally, those who have been using Apple products 
> for years but want further Voiceover help will also benefit. Finally, if you 
> struggle with certain gestures, fingering, or just want advance tips and 
> tricks, this course is for you as well. Note that as of right now, this 
> course will primarily focus on Apple iOS including iPhone, iPad, and iPod 
> Touch, TVOS, Watch OS, and HomePod. Though we wil indeed explore keyboard 
> commands and Braille displays, our primary mode of using these devices will 
> be gestures. My most recent certifications are on the iOS side of things, and 
> that’s what I use, so I’d prefer to not do Mac OS for now.
> 
> Finally, for the iPad course. You’ll notice I’ve renamed it. You’ll also 
> notice that it’s