RE: need help getting my SE 2020 working properly again

[kitty hevener]

 

Hi Jen, u raise an excellent point.  I did not specifically check the speech, 
although I did check volume.  At any rate, whatever happened is now resolved.  
So, am again a happy camper smile!! And, thanks to all for your help.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, January 9, 2022 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: need help getting my SE 2020 working properly again

 

Did speech get turned off? Voiceover will still be on, but the speech may have 
got turned off. Just a thought?

 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi





On Jan 9, 2022, at 4:36 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:



Richard, no, I was just doing the power off button for couple seconds.  I have 
now talked to apple accessability two times and had two failed attempts.  The 
last time, I spoke with a senior advisor.  She basically ended up telling me to 
just update to 15.2 in hopes that would solve issue.  So, when it finishes 
updating, will try your suggestion.  

 

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Sent: Sunday, January 9, 2022 5:39 PM
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Subject: RE: need help getting my SE 2020 working properly again

 

Have you done a reboot?

 

I think the SE 2020 works like the newer phones where you press and release the 
volume up, then press and release the volume down then hold in the side button 
about 8 or 10 seconds and release and wait for it to come back on.

 

The first two steps need to be done quickly, don’t hold in the volume buttons 
just press and release, then hold the side switch …

 

 

 

 

Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

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kitty hevener
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Subject: need help getting my SE 2020 working properly again

 

I forgot to put my phone on charge last night.  Consequently, battery ran down. 
 Since recharging, I discovered that I can not give voice commands to open my 
aps.  When flicking around the screen, voice over does not speak.  Yet, when I 
hold the home button and say “voiceover on”, I get message saying voice over is 
on.  When trying to unlock phone, have to enter pass code, as it is no longer 
responding to my fingerprint.  

 

Called apple accessability for help.  Did screen share.  While on phone,  my 
phone behaved like I would expect it to.  By that, I mean that I could flick to 
all my aps and hear everything as expected.  Hung up from phone call and 
discovered that my phone went back to doing what it was doing prior to calling 
apple accessability.  Called apple accessability tweo more times.  I was 
talking to rep and when they went to check my account, they never came back.  
This was 7-8 minutes in to the call.  I truly have never seen my phone behave 
like this.  Please help.  Thanks.

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RE: need help getting my SE 2020 working properly again

[kitty hevener]

Richard, no, I was just doing the power off button for couple seconds.  I have 
now talked to apple accessability two times and had two failed attempts.  The 
last time, I spoke with a senior advisor.  She basically ended up telling me to 
just update to 15.2 in hopes that would solve issue.  So, when it finishes 
updating, will try your suggestion.  

 

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richardr_tur...@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, January 9, 2022 5:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need help getting my SE 2020 working properly again

 

Have you done a reboot?

 

I think the SE 2020 works like the newer phones where you press and release the 
volume up, then press and release the volume down then hold in the side button 
about 8 or 10 seconds and release and wait for it to come back on.

 

The first two steps need to be done quickly, don’t hold in the volume buttons 
just press and release, then hold the side switch …

 

 

 

 

Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

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Subject: need help getting my SE 2020 working properly again

 

I forgot to put my phone on charge last night.  Consequently, battery ran down. 
 Since recharging, I discovered that I can not give voice commands to open my 
aps.  When flicking around the screen, voice over does not speak.  Yet, when I 
hold the home button and say “voiceover on”, I get message saying voice over is 
on.  When trying to unlock phone, have to enter pass code, as it is no longer 
responding to my fingerprint.  

 

Called apple accessability for help.  Did screen share.  While on phone,  my 
phone behaved like I would expect it to.  By that, I mean that I could flick to 
all my aps and hear everything as expected.  Hung up from phone call and 
discovered that my phone went back to doing what it was doing prior to calling 
apple accessability.  Called apple accessability tweo more times.  I was 
talking to rep and when they went to check my account, they never came back.  
This was 7-8 minutes in to the call.  I truly have never seen my phone behave 
like this.  Please help.  Thanks.

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need help getting my SE 2020 working properly again

[kitty hevener]

I forgot to put my phone on charge last night.  Consequently, battery ran
down.  Since recharging, I discovered that I can not give voice commands to
open my aps.  When flicking around the screen, voice over does not speak.
Yet, when I hold the home button and say "voiceover on", I get message
saying voice over is on.  When trying to unlock phone, have to enter pass
code, as it is no longer responding to my fingerprint.  

 

Called apple accessability for help.  Did screen share.  While on phone,  my
phone behaved like I would expect it to.  By that, I mean that I could flick
to all my aps and hear everything as expected.  Hung up from phone call and
discovered that my phone went back to doing what it was doing prior to
calling apple accessability.  Called apple accessability tweo more times.  I
was talking to rep and when they went to check my account, they never came
back.  This was 7-8 minutes in to the call.  I truly have never seen my
phone behave like this.  Please help.  Thanks.

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RE: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:

[kitty hevener]

Don I am having the same problem.  In fact, once I go in to the devices tab, I 
pretty much have to go in to the ap switcher, exit alexa and come back in.  Am 
using latest ios on se 2020.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 6:34 AM
To: VIPhone google group 
Subject: Accessibility issue with the Alexa app:

 

Hi listers,

 

I wanted to add a speaker to a group I previously created in the Alexa app a 
long time ago.

 

I found I was unable to do that.

 

When going to the devices tab I now get a screen that says introducing 
favorites and I can't find a way to get rid of it or do anying with it at all.

 

This prevents me from working with my devices and speaker groups.

 

Has anyone found a way around this?

 

I did try the pass through gesture with no luck and the amazon website doesn't 
have the alexa control interface as it used to.

 

Any suggestions appreciated.

 

Don

 

 

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RE: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

[kitty hevener]

Charles, I recently heard a consumer news tip where the person was really 
testing to see if the USB c block really did charge faster than the USB a one.  
He was using one of the more recent Iphones and said nothing about the A blocks 
possibly damaging the battery.  In fact, he charged the phone with the USB a 
block and noted that it was slower than the c one.  He led me to believe that 
they really both will work fine, one's just a little faster..  

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Jordan
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

I just bought my iphone 13 mini and was told the same thing.  I went ahead and 
bought the usBC recommended charging block.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

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Spicer
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Charging iPhone 13 Mini

Hello, I hope everyone is safe and well.  When I purchased my iPhone
13 mini the representative told me that it is not recommended to use the 
charging block and cables that we all have from buying prior iPhones.  She 
advised that it may damage the battery and it is recommended to use the new 
charging block and cables with the USBC connection.
Has anyone heard this and do you agree with only using the new charging blocks 
and cables to charge iPhone 13?
Thank you!
Charles

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RE: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

[kitty hevener]

I agree with Richard re u calling apple for the answer.  However, having said 
that, yesterday, I heard a consumer report addressing the topic of whether the 
usb C lightening cable is really any faster than the standard ones apple use to 
include with their phones.  Both were tested and the usb c lightening cable 
actually did charge faster than the traditional one.  

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Subject: an iphone charger question to purchase one of theese or not

Hi I would like to know if you can purchase a 65 watt charging block for the 
iPhone and if it uses USB type C to lightning?

Would this be worth it to purchase something like this for charging your phone 
or does it not really give you A faster charging time?

Meaning would I get my moneys worth purchasing something like this or just not 
bother and save my money for something else?

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RE: App for counting steps

[kitty hevener]

Ester, have you ever tried using fit bit for swimming or other aquatic 
activities?  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App for counting steps

 

I use a device called the Fitbit. I really like it a lot. I have the charge 
for. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Well, you burst my bubble.

Apparently, the built-in pedometer is known for inconsistent readings.

I found an article on what is supposed to be the 10 best pedometer apps as of 
February 2021.

My conclusion is that if the app depends on the built-in pedometer, it is no 
more accurate than the built-in one.

I wonder about apps that use GPS, though I thought the built-in one did.  
Anyway, here is a link to that article.

The 10 Best Pedometer Apps for iPhone in 2021 - VodyTech 
 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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terrie...@twc.com  
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 

Hi everyone,

I have heard that the iPhone and other step-counting hardware adds steps if one 
taps one’s feet or uses a keyboard. If so, how can you hope to get a reasonably 
 accurate  step count or measurement of distance walked? I would appreciate 
advice on whether the iPhone adds steps wen the body makes movements other than 
walking. I would also appreciate recommendations for apps or other hardware 
that can give an accurate step count or distance walked measure. Thanks for any 
suggestions you can give.

Best,

Terrie Terlau

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: App for counting steps

 

Applevis is probably one of the best and most comprehensive web sites with tons 
of app reviews and tutorials.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: September 20, 2021 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: App for counting steps

 

Hi people,

I have this new phone and have been thinking I need to exercise more and saw 
that someone was keeping track of their steps and how many miles they had 
walked.  Of course, I have known you can do this, but could someone tell me how 
to set this up?  First I want to thank you all for answering all my questions.  
Next I want you to know that I look up a lot of things before I ask.  Last, I 
am warning you that I suspect I will have many more questions.  Is there a 
resource that is available to tell a blind person about the new things in 14?  
Yes, I realize that 15 has come out, but for now I want to learn 14 and then 
move on.  Thanks much all.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

 

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Bob Proctor

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RE: Game Day

[kitty hevener]

Hi all, just discovered that tune in premium does have the pro sports again.  I 
got a promo email from them, so for a couple months I have overlap with tune in 
and sirius xm.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Game Day

 

I had TuneIn premium until the summer of 2020 when they dropped the pro sports.

I hope they keep them for you.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Game Day

 

i just signed up for Tunein premium and it is $9.99 per month.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Arnold Schmidt   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:32 PM

Subject: Re: Game Day

 

Sometimes, Game Day and Pro Football work, sometimes not. I have had both of 
them work for a while, then cut off. TuneIn is wanting $15 a month this year, 
and you have to have the premium even for most college games. I have yet to 
sign up.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 20, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Andy Baracco mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> > wrote:

 

None of the 49ers stations worked, except for KLAC that had other programming. 
I know of 2 stations that used to stream the games, but they bowed to pressure 
from the NFL and either dropped the streams or signed on with the NFL.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:44 PM

Subject: Re: Game Day

 

I listened to the Seahawks yesterday with no problems. 

Are you all trying different stations, and not just the first one?

Remember, he is trying to get around the NFL'S limit to internet broadcasting 
of games.

He says to keep trying different stations and hopefully you find one that is 
ignoring the NFL and streaming the game.

No guarantees at all.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com  

 

 

On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Andy Baracco mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> > wrote:

 

I noticed that as well. Last week i was able to find the 49ers game on KFIG, 
but no luck yesterday.  My thought is that the NFL launched some kind of crack 
down on the teams and stations.  Everyone has caught on to the fact that 
streaming is a cash cow, and the days of free and low cost content are becoming 
a thing of the past.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Lehmann, Timothy A   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:46 AM

Subject: Game Day

 

I purchased the Game Day ap for listening to NFL games. Last year I was able to 
listen to NFL games. Now when I try to listen to NFL games the ap says radio 
blocked. Any idea how to get the games to open, so I can listen to them like I 
have before? Thanks and have a nice day!

Tim Lehmann

Access Specialist

Student Affairs

Missouri State University

Meyer Library 111G

901 South National Avenue

Springfield, Missouri 65897

Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158

mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

CAUTION: External Sender

Alan,

We recently got an Ecobee thermostat which was recommended by our HVAC company 
and it works with our Trane air conditioner.  I do not remember the specific 
model offhand, though.

My husband and I are both blind, and after the initial setup, we have had no 
issues using it with their app or Alexa.   The only time we needed sighted help 
was during the setup process to enter the WIFI information directly on the 
touch screen of the unit.  There may have been a way around this that we might 
have missed at the time, but a call to AIRA helped get this part done.

Anyway, we are very happy with this unit.

Pam

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably 

RE: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

[kitty hevener]

Okay, didn’t mean to go technical on you smiles!  Was just wondering if it was 
some new braille code that was coming out in the near future.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and 
Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

 

That was probably not the perfect use of the word protocol, but in the sense I 
used it it means a set of rules governing the exchange of data between devices. 
 In the dictionary, that is the 4th meaning.

 

IN any case, it is the procedure used to exchange data in this case, between an 
iPhone and a braille display over a USB cable.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and 
Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

 

Richard, forgive my ignorance, but what is HID protocal?  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and 
Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

 

I don’t use any of the features under the Serious bugs.

 

Under Moderate bugs:

*   It is not possible to edit existing alarms in the native Clock app when 
VoiceOver is enabled. 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.applevis.com%2Fbugs%2Fios%2Funable-edit-alarms-clock-app=04%7C01%7C%7C3d3cf437ed4c4f28b44908d97c4fae98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677503957310378%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=YHiwQr2fQ%2F2dtV21EdZJ7l6GLxJ%2FSofddWSu2q1UfgA%3D=0>
  For now, the simplest workaround is to use the VoiceOver rotor’s Action menu 
to delete the alarm, and then recreate it with the desired configuration.

** or use Siri to change or create a new alarm.

 

That is all that will interfere with my use of the phone and since the new 
phone comes with iOS 15 already, I’ll update my existing phone and keep 
updating when they fix the issues listed.

 

However, I can see where this is an update a lot of people will want to sit out 
for now.

Especially this new use of USB braille displays with the HID Braille protocol; 
which will be a problem for deaf-blind users.

I only learned this was beginning to be possible when Scott Davert mentioned it 
on the Braille Device Users list.

 

Later,

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:  
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C3d3cf437ed4c4f28b44908d97c4fae98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677503957320332%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=bGQTxCMHoykHsESMNJQ9w4bzgsQ7RNPMc%2FinvquaByE%3D=0>
 https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Rafal Marzec
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Fwd: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and 
Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

 

I must say that it looks really bad

Probably I will not upgrade till they will fix basic problems

Sent from my iPhone


Begin forwarded message:

From: The AppleVis Editorial Team mailto:newslet...@applevis.com> >
Date: 18 September 2021 at 8:57:43 am BST
To: bluewings1...@gmail.com <mailto:bluewings1...@gmail.com> 
Subject: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved 
in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users
Reply-To: The AppleVis Editorial Team mailto:newslet...@applevis.com> >

 


View in browser 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.applevis.com%2Fnewsletter%2Faccessibility-bugs-introduced-and-resolved-ios-15-and-ipados-15-blind-and-low-vision=04%7C01%7C%7C3d3cf437ed4c4f28b44908d97c4fae98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677503957330290%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2l

RE: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

[kitty hevener]

Richard, forgive my ignorance, but what is HID protocal?  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and 
Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

 

I don’t use any of the features under the Serious bugs.

 

Under Moderate bugs:

*   It is not possible to edit existing alarms in the native Clock app when 
VoiceOver is enabled. 

  For now, the simplest workaround is to use the VoiceOver rotor’s Action menu 
to delete the alarm, and then recreate it with the desired configuration.

** or use Siri to change or create a new alarm.

 

That is all that will interfere with my use of the phone and since the new 
phone comes with iOS 15 already, I’ll update my existing phone and keep 
updating when they fix the issues listed.

 

However, I can see where this is an update a lot of people will want to sit out 
for now.

Especially this new use of USB braille displays with the HID Braille protocol; 
which will be a problem for deaf-blind users.

I only learned this was beginning to be possible when Scott Davert mentioned it 
on the Braille Device Users list.

 

Later,

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Rafal Marzec
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Fwd: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and 
Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users

 

I must say that it looks really bad

Probably I will not upgrade till they will fix basic problems

Sent from my iPhone


Begin forwarded message:

From: The AppleVis Editorial Team mailto:newslet...@applevis.com> >
Date: 18 September 2021 at 8:57:43 am BST
To: bluewings1...@gmail.com  
Subject: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved 
in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for Blind and Low Vision Users
Reply-To: The AppleVis Editorial Team mailto:newslet...@applevis.com> >

 


View in browser 

  


The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 for 
Blind and Low Vision Users


iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 will be released to the public on Monday 20 September, 
2021. As is our tradition, we have posted to the AppleVis website a list of 
VoiceOver, low vision, and braille bugs which we believe will be introduced in 
these releases; as well as details of the pre-existing bugs which we believe to 
be resolved.

If you have already read our post to AppleVis, there will be nothing new for 
you in this email, so we apologise for repeating ourselves and wish you a great 
weekend. However, we know that many in our community won’t yet have seen the 
post, so decided to mail it to our newsletter subscribers - this should 
hopefully ensure that as many people as possible are aware of what to expect 
when the public releases of iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 become available on Monday.

As is our routine practice, each new bug has been given a severity rating; 
these ratings are based upon what we believe to be the implications for 
accessing and using features and functionality and the level of impact on the 
overall user experience, as well as whether or not there is an effective 
workaround for the issue. However, as these ratings are subjective, it is very 
possible that they may not reflect your own opinion or use case.

As we always stress, we can make no claims on the completeness or accuracy of 
our testing. We have only a small team of testers, and it is simply impossible 
for us to test all devices, configurations, applications, and use cases; this 
is even more important to note now as Apple’s ecosystem continues to expand and 
the number of possible device configurations increases. Some of the bugs listed 
below will be specific to a 

RE: Unlocking an iPhone

[kitty hevener]

Hi Kay, O, I went through a horrible nightmare re this very issue a little over 
a year ago.  I bought a phone that was advertised as unlocked.  In fact, the 
seller told me it would work on Verizon.  One of the biggest lessons I learned 
from that experience is to get the seller to give u the IMEI (I m e i) number.  
Then, check with apple, (I checked apple accessibility) They can tell u whether 
or not that phone is unlocked and what carrier it is on.  Folks on this list 
really were a huge help to me in dealing with the problem.  Hope this helps.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, September 6, 2021 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unlocking an iPhone

So, if I am buying it from someone else, it is up to them to get it unlocked?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"Where focus goes, energy flows."
Bob Proctor

- Original Message -
From: "Joseph Hudson" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2021 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Unlocking an iPhone


Hello, it's a simple as calling your carrier, letting them know, that you 
want to unlock your iPhone, they will ask you for an IMEI number that is 
under the about section of your phone. And then they will make the process 
and then you will get an email in a few days that your phone has been a lot. 
That's normally takes at least three days.

> On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:14 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>
> HI all,
> What kind of mess do you have to go through to unlock an iPhone?  If 
> anyone knows, I would appreciate your input.  Thanks
>
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
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RE: Walmart app question.

[kitty hevener]

Yes, custom means u put in an amount that u want to tip 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Walmart app question.

 

Hello all,

 

For those of you that have used this app. When going to check out. For the tip 
the highest amount to my knowledge is $10 so and then they have I think four 
dollars is the lowest amount so does custom mean zero dollars I’m sorry if I’m 
answering my own question here but I just wanna make sure I’m understanding 
everything properly. Thanks in advance and hope y’all are having a great day.

 

Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[kitty hevener]

At the time I had vaccine, I was given a card showing all the gory details.  I 
had someone take a pic of it.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

 

I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
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Andy

 

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RE: The seamless app

[kitty hevener]

Yeah, I know.  But the last time I tried using door dash, I could not place the 
order.  So, I tried calling the order folks.  Had hard time understanding the 
person.  When I got my order, I discovered there was a round cup with a chicken 
patty laying inside.  Couldn't help wonderin, "Where's the bread"?  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The seamless app

Door Dash does have Chick Fil-A, but of course, not on Sundays.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "kitty hevener" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: The seamless app


I just installed seamless here in cincinnati.  It seems to have pretty much 
the same restaurant choices as grub hub.  I haven't tried ordering anything 
though.  Sadly, neither of them have chick filet.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The seamless app

They're pretty similar in my area.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The seamless app

Understood. I guess my question then is, has anyone noticed restaurant or 
menu choice differences between DoorDash and caviar or GrubHub and seamless?

> On Jun 21, 2021, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Just because one company owns another means nothing these days, you still 
> use the product or service you like and there are many examples where a 
> company buys another with a similar product or service but still they are 
> different enough so people prefer one over another or maybe they operate 
> in different markets. Of course there are also cases where a company buys 
> another which is extremely similar just so they can dominate a particular 
> category or absorb the other company.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Kathy Brandt
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 7:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The seamless app
>
> It’s great that GrubHub has gotten easier to use over time, less 
> cluttered. Seamless owns them, so would you just be duplicating effort by 
> getting the seamless app?
>
> Same with DoorDash: at different times I get emails saying I can use dash 
> pass with caviar, but if I’m going to have access to the same places if I 
> got caviar, what’s the point?
>
>
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:07 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Pricing appears to be the same as the actual restaurants, it doesn't 
>> appear to be inflated.  The taxes and service fees seem to be lower than 
>> UberEATS as well.
>> Also, the delivery fees aren't too bad either and if you subscribe to 
>> seamless plus you get free delivery from a lot of places and other perks 
>> as well.
>> Johna
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Robert Doc Wright
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 3:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The seamless app
>>
>> what about pricing?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Johna Gravitt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 1:20 PM
>> Subject: RE: The seamless app
>>
>>
>> I use the seamless app on a regular basis.  It is very accessible.
>> The descriptions are very good on the restaurants and the items on the 
>> menus.
>> The only issues I've found are rating after delivery, and when
>> getting support through the chat feature, you cannot read what you've
>> wrote after it's sent, only what the agent writes.
>> I've submitted feedback to them.
>> Johna
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Noe Villeda
>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 2:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: The seamless app
>>
>> Has anyone used the Seamless app?
>> I hear it is similar to Uber eats.
>> If so, what are your thoughts on it, is it accessible?
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RE: The seamless app

[kitty hevener]

I just installed seamless here in cincinnati.  It seems to have pretty much the 
same restaurant choices as grub hub.  I haven't tried ordering anything though. 
 Sadly, neither of them have chick filet.  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The seamless app

They're pretty similar in my area.


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Brandt
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The seamless app

Understood. I guess my question then is, has anyone noticed restaurant or menu 
choice differences between DoorDash and caviar or GrubHub and seamless?

> On Jun 21, 2021, at 10:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Just because one company owns another means nothing these days, you still 
> use the product or service you like and there are many examples where a 
> company buys another with a similar product or service but still they are 
> different enough so people prefer one over another or maybe they operate in 
> different markets. Of course there are also cases where a company buys 
> another which is extremely similar just so they can dominate a particular 
> category or absorb the other company.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kathy Brandt
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 7:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The seamless app
> 
> It’s great that GrubHub has gotten easier to use over time, less cluttered. 
> Seamless owns them, so would you just be duplicating effort by getting the 
> seamless app? 
> 
> Same with DoorDash: at different times I get emails saying I can use dash 
> pass with caviar, but if I’m going to have access to the same places if I got 
> caviar, what’s the point?
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:07 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pricing appears to be the same as the actual restaurants, it doesn't appear 
>> to be inflated.  The taxes and service fees seem to be lower than UberEATS 
>> as well.
>> Also, the delivery fees aren't too bad either and if you subscribe to 
>> seamless plus you get free delivery from a lot of places and other perks as 
>> well.
>> Johna
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Robert Doc Wright
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 3:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The seamless app
>> 
>> what about pricing?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Johna Gravitt" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 1:20 PM
>> Subject: RE: The seamless app
>> 
>> 
>> I use the seamless app on a regular basis.  It is very accessible.  
>> The descriptions are very good on the restaurants and the items on the menus.
>> The only issues I've found are rating after delivery, and when 
>> getting support through the chat feature, you cannot read what you've 
>> wrote after it's sent, only what the agent writes.
>> I've submitted feedback to them.
>> Johna
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Noe Villeda
>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 2:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: The seamless app
>> 
>> Has anyone used the Seamless app?
>> I hear it is similar to Uber eats.
>> If so, what are your thoughts on it, is it accessible?
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RE: looking for an accessible food ordering app

[kitty hevener]

I have successfully placed two orders with grubhub.  There are a couple things 
I don’t like about it.  1.  I don’t like the way tips are handled.  Even though 
there is an option for custom tip, I have yet to figure out how to enter one 
and get it accepted.  So, I feel that I have had to tip higher than I might 
prefer to do.  And, no, I am no cheap scate.  Lolol.  I also think they have a 
minimum order of $12.00 instead of $10.00 like doordash.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: looking for an accessible food ordering app

 

Since the slipping in accessibility of DoorDash, I’m looking for the most 
accessible ordering app. I have uber eats and grub hub and they may be 
accessible though I haven’t completed an order with either yet.

 

 

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RE: An Accessible Thermometer

[kitty hevener]

Don’t know of any accessible thermometer aps.  However, I just happened on a 
talking infrared thermometer that appears to be quite accurate.  It’s easy to 
use and hae been able to get the same temperature reading several consecutive 
times.  Got it from guidelights and gadgets.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: An Accessible Thermometer

 

Does anyone know of an accessible thermometer app that I can download to take 
my temperature?

 

At work, we’re required to log our temperature, and the digital thermometer 
doesn’t always work.

 

Noe

 

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RE: waltr2

[kitty hevener]

It did with Imazing, but not with waltr2.  That is so weird that Imazing will 
do what waltr2 won’t.  Hmm, maybe that’s why they call it imazing smile!!.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2021 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: waltr2

 

Did a message come up on your Old SE about trusting your computer?

 

If not, there is a problem.

 

You have to allow your iPhone to  trust the computer or nothing will see it 
including iTunes.

 

I just connected my Old SE and WALTR sees it just fine.

You have to get to the Wi-Fi tab in WALTR and then tab into the list of 
available devices, then once on the device, tab to a checkbox to allow wireless 
connection with that device.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: waltr2

 

 

Richard, I tried new cable and had phone connected prior to rebooting.  Waltr2 
still did not see it.  Downloaded Imazing It connected and made a backup of my 
phone.  but 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2021 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: waltr2

 

That error could mean a bad cable. 

If you do not have another cable, it could be it is too old to deal with. But, 
try rebooting while the phone is plugged in.

 

 

Richard 

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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On May 8, 2021, at 11:19 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

I am using the original SE.  I only know of one version of waltr2.  Just got it 
yesterday evening.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2021 1:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: waltr2

 

How old is the iPhone you are using? unless you see your device listed you will 
not be able to transfer. 

based on which version of Waltr 2 you have installed you should have a folder 
option to choose.

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To: viphone user group <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 8:02 PM

Subject: waltr2

 

I have been wanting to use an old iphone to store music on, but could not 
figure out how to do it.  Thinking waltr2 was the answer, I downloaded and 
installed.  Apparently, I am missing something.  When I open the program, I get 
the menu that has about and some other things.  Nothing about transferring 
music.  What am I missing?  I did put the windows version on my pc.  Do I need 
to install something on my Iphone?  Please help.  Thanks.

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RE: iPhone directions.

[kitty hevener]

Try saying "get driving directions to..."

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Subject: iPhone directions.

Today, we started to leave, and I pushed the Siri Button and
said:

Driving directions to 2919 Beechtree Drive, Sanford, NC. She never did a thing. 
I did the same once again, said she was checking. That's all that happened. 

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RE: waltr2

[kitty hevener]

 

Richard, I tried new cable and had phone connected prior to rebooting.  Waltr2 
still did not see it.  Downloaded Imazing It connected and made a backup of my 
phone.  but 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2021 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: waltr2

 

That error could mean a bad cable. 

If you do not have another cable, it could be it is too old to deal with. But, 
try rebooting while the phone is plugged in.

 

 

Richard 

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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On May 8, 2021, at 11:19 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

I am using the original SE.  I only know of one version of waltr2.  Just got it 
yesterday evening.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2021 1:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: waltr2

 

How old is the iPhone you are using? unless you see your device listed you will 
not be able to transfer. 

based on which version of Waltr 2 you have installed you should have a folder 
option to choose.

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To: viphone user group <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

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Subject: waltr2

 

I have been wanting to use an old iphone to store music on, but could not 
figure out how to do it.  Thinking waltr2 was the answer, I downloaded and 
installed.  Apparently, I am missing something.  When I open the program, I get 
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RE: waltr2

[kitty hevener]

I am using the original SE.  I only know of one version of waltr2.  Just got it 
yesterday evening.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2021 1:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: waltr2

 

How old is the iPhone you are using? unless you see your device listed you will 
not be able to transfer. 

based on which version of Waltr 2 you have installed you should have a folder 
option to choose.

- Original Message - 

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To: viphone user group <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 8:02 PM

Subject: waltr2

 

I have been wanting to use an old iphone to store music on, but could not 
figure out how to do it.  Thinking waltr2 was the answer, I downloaded and 
installed.  Apparently, I am missing something.  When I open the program, I get 
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RE: waltr2

[kitty hevener]

Richar, thanks for getting back to me.  When I plug my Iphone in via usb, I get 
error message saying USB unrecognized.  The last USB device you connected to 
this computer malfunctioned and this computer doesn’t recognize it.  I am using 
windows 10 computer and Iphone original SE.  I tried rebooting computer, and 
changing USB ports.  Looked at USB and Phone under pc settings.  Made sure 
Iphone was checked.  Tried new cable and was rewarded with dialog asking what 
wanted autoplay to do.  However, could not find the dialog box.  So opened 
waltr2 in hopes of finding what you told me I would find. No such luck.

Clock is ticking and my brain is fresh out of ideas.  How can I et computer and 
Iphone to talk so can move on to waltr2?  Thanks much for all your help.   

 

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Turner
Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2021 10:48 PM
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Subject: RE: waltr2

 

The trial is only good for 24 hours.

Plug your phone into your computer.

Open Waltr

Tab to where it says something like WALTR 2 settings and hit spacebar.

Now tab to where you should hear either about Tab, or General Tab, then use 
your right arrow to get to Wi-Fi and hit enter, then the next tab should be 
your phone.

Tab again to a checkbox to allow Wireless transfer.

 

Then, hit OK.

Then hit space on your Phone.

Tab to browse and hit enter and then you will shift tab and from here you have 
to know how to navigate your computer to get to where your files are.

 

Once you get your files selected and hit Open, you should find a button to 
convert and transfer to your phone.

 

It is less than clear with a screen reader and takes a lot of poking around.

 

IN reality for many things, iTunes could be easier.

But, iTunes has its own major headaches.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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they become by it."

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I have been wanting to use an old iphone to store music on, but could not
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RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[kitty hevener]

Just got reader for low price

 

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Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 11:24 PM
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Subject: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner 
with a price increase

 

Hi List,

 

I received a tweet tonight which was sent earlier today stating the Voice Dream 
Reader has a new update coming out tomorrow that will include the Voice Dream 
Scanner capabilities in Reader. The price will increase from $14.99 to $19.99 
USD. Reader is currently on sale for $9.99 which for those who don't have it is 
a great price especially considering that scanning will be included in it after 
the update. I don't know when the $9.99 sale price expires but I just checked 
the App Store and that price was still available. If you're interested in 
getting this app, I'd recommend you do it now.

 

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RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[kitty hevener]

Richard, Jose, the person doing the demo said that he prefers the google glass 
as he does not have to keep waving his phone around running the risk that 
someone with ill intent will remove it from him.  I played around with 
supersense explorer mode today while sitting in the doctor exam room.  I could 
not get it to find the chair which I knew to be there.  It found my dog and, 
after identifying correctly for several times, it suddenly called her a cat!  
Not sure why that happened.  Do u know if Supersense is supposed to work on the 
original Iphone se?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Well, I do not think any of the systems with glasses are worth that kind of 
money when you can do all that just with your phone.  

And, Envision AI still has not impressed me enough to even pay for a 
subscription. 

Seeing AI had a very impressive update today. Check it out.

Also, Supersense for the explore feature does as good a job as Envision AI. 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:58 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[kitty hevener]

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  

Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for h

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[kitty hevener]

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  

Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the lifetime 
subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can do a monthly 
or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since I'm doing fine 
with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about it. 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that envision 
ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly subscription of 
around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent years.  That seems 
kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than seeing ai?  How?

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comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[kitty hevener]

Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that
envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly
subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent
years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than
seeing ai?  How?

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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

[kitty hevener]

Am totally blind too.  Just don’t like auditory clutter lolol!!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hi Kitty,

 

Sorry I’m totally blind and although I hear it, I just ignore it,

 

I guess if it’s something a VI person can see then I would assume it could get 
annoying 

 

I guess this is where we all differ in how we treat things.

 

Cheers,

 

Simon F

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 6:24 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I find it distracting and am looking for a way to get rid of it.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken 

 

But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for an 
issue to talk about?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, 
it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in 
thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water, or god knows 
what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to pinpoint any 
patterns yet.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

HI,

I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I 
encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or 
touch.

Robin

 

On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
makes a difference.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain  <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:

 

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> 

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and show

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

[kitty hevener]

Wayne, I have thesirius xm ap as well.  I am not sure if I heard those things 
before 14.2.  One thing I have noticed since installing sirius xm ap is that 
will hear a musical alarm.  I did not set any alarm.  It seems to go off 
randomly.  Have u heard that?  I swear, am beginning to wonder if my phone is 
possessed lolol!!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it.
I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an 
iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm 
listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to 
me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would 
get annoying though.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for 
> the older phones.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to 
> it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else 
> running 14.2
> on an older phone,   to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have
> experienced these  extra descriptions  on a phone that does not have 
> the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the 
> image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting 
> to know just what it is.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the 
> recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2.
>
> Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so 
> I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think 
> that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I 
> shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said 
> that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning 
> on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but 
> turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is 
> going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to 
> duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
> on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are 
> experiencing this should report it to them, being that  the more complaints 
> they have about a given issue might make it seem more important.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out 
> Settings
> -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is 
> attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be 
> its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, 
> sunglasses, and baseball hat.
> I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, 
> speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 
> 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 
> phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple 
> Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody 
> answered. I will keep trying.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.
>
>
>
> Viola
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Reg Sullivan
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
> To: 

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

[kitty hevener]

Yes, but I get the messages even though weathergods is not active.  Good 
thinking, though.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Do you have the app Weather Gods?

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: kitty hevener <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:00 PM

Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, 
it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in 
thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water, or god knows 
what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to pinpoint any 
patterns yet.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

HI,

I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I 
encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or 
touch.

Robin

 

On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
makes a difference.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain  <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:

 

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> 

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@go

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

[kitty hevener]

I find it distracting and am looking for a way to get rid of it.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken 

 

But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for an 
issue to talk about?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, 
it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in 
thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water, or god knows 
what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to pinpoint any 
patterns yet.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

HI,

I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I 
encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or 
touch.

Robin

 

On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
makes a difference.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain  <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:

 

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> 

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

[kitty hevener]

I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, 
it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in 
thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water, or god knows 
what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to pinpoint any 
patterns yet.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

HI,

I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I 
encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or 
touch.

Robin

 

On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
makes a difference.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain   
 wrote:

 

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com  

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody 

RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

[kitty hevener]

O, I ran in to that problem when I was trying to subscribe.  Turns out there is 
a button that is incorectly labeled.  I can’t remember it, but seems that it 
was located just above the button that you want (perhaps start button or 
something like that).  With sighted help, I did find that pressing enter on the 
incorrectly labeled button will let u finish that step.  I know this is vague, 
but somehow, I hope it is helpful.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

 

Online there is a $1 price per four months for their Premiere streaming 
package. I'm trying to subscribe, but I get all the way to step three of three 
in the checkout process, and then cannot accept their customer agreement. So 
far I've tried on three different browsers on my Windows machine, and using 
safari with my iPhone, and Google Chrome on my Android phone.  The only thing I 
haven't tried using is my amazon Fire table. All other options exhibit the 
exact same results.

 

So, if this is so inaccessible just to simply sign up. I guess I'll pass.

 

~Ann

 

 

 

On 11/17/2020 2:26 PM, Alan Emlyn wrote:

Call them at 866-635-2349 and ask them for their best discounted price on their 
premier streaming service. They usually have it for $5 to $6 a month for six 
months. You might have to pay up front but it is a good price. They should be 
able to tell you how to set up an account at the same time.

 

Alan Lemly  

 

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I am trying to subscribe to SiriusXM, can anyone tell me exactly how to 
accomplish this?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

 

Shirley,

 

Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? There 
isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available channels are 
presented in categories and as you drill down on them, the channels are listed 
in text lists with the channel number provided. I find it much easier to get 
info about my available channels using this app and I can then ask Alexa to 
play them on my Echo.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

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Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM 

 

I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I can tell 
my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening the app on my phone, 
I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to read the list of holiday 
channels.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt   > wrote:
> 
> There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
> number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
> Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
> quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
> broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
> app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
> of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
> cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
> with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
> free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
> further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
> things for the intermediate/advanced users.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd >  > wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
>> station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
>> off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
>> thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
>> Chris
>>> On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>>> Dear Chris,
>>> How do you turn on the presets? I just 

RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[kitty hevener]

Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
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person's receiving Social Security

 

I can't read the article.

- Original Message - 

From: Simon A Fogarty   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM

Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

I told you guys he was an A hole,

 

Is that something biden can reverse?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
matthew dyer
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
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person's receiving Social Security

 

IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 

 

Matthew

 

 

 

On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
this.

 

 
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

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RE: Question About Adding SiriusXM to IOS Devices

[kitty hevener]

Hi, I have sirius xm and am able to use it from the I phone, computer and echo 
device all at the same time.  I actually installed it on my computer first, 
then got the ap for Iphone.  I had a much more difficult time trying to use it 
on the echo dot.  As I recall, I had to choose "more" from the settings options 
in the alexa ap.  Sadly, I don't recall what I did from there.  But, I think 
there is some type of parental control or something like that which must be 
disabled to the the ap working right.  I hope this gets u started, anyway.  

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Irons
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Subject: Re: Question About Adding SiriusXM to IOS Devices

Hello, this is Mike. I have Serious Ex M on my iPhone is also on an Amazon echo 
device. I have found that you can only stream Serious on one device at a time. 
What a strange series on the echo and I found the message for the echo would 
come on and say that that device cannot keep streaming the channel because 
another device was accessing the account.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Yes you can add it to your iPad, but I believe that you can only stream on 
> one device at a time.
> 
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>> On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
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>> I have SeriusXM on my iPhone. Can I add it to my iPad too?
>> 
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RE: How to Return Amazon Items the Right Way: Fast, Easy and Usually Free, cNet

[kitty hevener]

Do u get charged for having them pick up from your door?  Before I saw the 
article, I had to return something, and ended up finding someone to take it to 
the nearest kohls store.  When I looked at the other options, seemed that there 
was a service charge.  

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Free, cNet

I've always had UPS come and pick up my items for returns from amazon.
It works great.  Amazon disability is really good at helping as well.

On 11/10/20, Maria Campbell  wrote:
> Don't be so petty.  The article didn't say it was best for all.
>
>
> Maria Campbell
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>
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
>
> On 11/10/2020 10:52 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> And what is the "right way" for some is not the right way for others.
>> This may all be well and good if you are in a larger city where you 
>> have all these services, couriers and so on, where I live in northern 
>> British Columbia almost all Amazon orders come by Canada Post and 
>> they are delivered to the post office because while I am in a town 
>> with a population of about 6,000 there is no door-to-door mail 
>> delivery, everybody has a post office box and has to get their mail there.
>> if I want to return something I process the return on the Amazon 
>> website, print out the label, pack the item, put the label on the box 
>> and drop it off at the post office.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 7:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How to Return Amazon Items the Right Way: Fast, Easy and 
>> Usually Free, cNet
>>
>> Hi, do you receive any notification that the package has been picked 
>> up? I like the sound of this option, but I think I'd be a little 
>> nervous leaving a package outside for an undetermined amount of time.
>>
>> Thanks for the great info.
>>
>> Traci
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Nov 6, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Holly  wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark:
>>>
>>> I have been offered this pickup option every time I call Amazon 
>>> disability for info on a return.
>>>
>>> It is wonderful!  No fuss, no muss.  The driver will take the 
>>> package and apply the label for you and off it goes.
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RE: HP air laser jet printer

[kitty hevener]

Does it print on both sides of the paper?  Can u make copies of documents?

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Hi, would you mind resending the model number?--Joe

On 11/4/20, deidre muccio  wrote:
> Hello all,
> I wanted to say that  the email that Richard forwarded about a laser 
> printer originally recommended by Mark lead to my purchasing one. It 
> has the smallest footprint of any LaserJet printer out there I do 
> believe and that was something I was looking for. And it only prints 
> in black which was also all I was looking for. The first one got 
> returned because the rollers would not grab the paper, And  according 
> to the HB tech that was somewhere overseas over a bad connection 
> determined after fussing with it for about an hour that the sensor 
> must’ve been broken. That printer got returned. Setting up the second 
> one that was sent as a replacement work just fine. The HP website however is 
> a pain as Is gettingis getting through to a live person.
> You have to have a case, and some of the questions don’t address 
> what’s actually going on with the printer. They may mention all kinds 
> of different colored lights except the one on your printer that just 
> so happens to be flashing. I had cited help with this. At any rate 
> also after I was getting messages saying they said it was complete on 
> both the iPhone and my PC it then said it could not locate printer and 
> all these sorts of things. So double messaging. The latter being 
> totally in accurate. When attempting to print anyway it printed just 
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> really all I needed.
> Thank you Richard and Mark for the recommendations.
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> Deirdre
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RE: Using the Tribit Soundmax speaker while plugged in

[kitty hevener]

Have no clue what, if anything the manual says, but I have used it plugged in 
and so far, it continues to work.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using the Tribit Soundmax speaker while plugged in

 

Hi.

 

Here’s another question, and I don’t know if the User’s instructions mention 
anything about this. What happens if you use this speaker while plugged into 
power? It does work, but do the instructions say not to do this? I wonder if it 
will still charge or not. Reason I’m asking is I’d prefer to hear its sound 
over the speakers in my laptop, and if I had it on all day without it being 
plugged in, it would run out of juice at night, and that’s why I got it in the 
first place.

 

Just wondering

 

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RE: Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker dimensions was RE: Speakers

[kitty hevener]

Alan, totally with u on their descriptions.  Maybe it’s me, but I think the 
descriptions are befcoming less and less helpful.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker dimensions was RE: 
Speakers

 

Kitty,

 

Thanks for confirming the presence of the 3.5mm jack. I'm perplexed why Amazon 
product descriptions do not include a bare minimum of words stating what jacks 
are included with their products and which USB charging connection they use. 
This sort of info seems critical to me and takes very few words.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kitty hevener
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker dimensions was RE: 
Speakers

 

The tribit sound max that I have does have the 3.5 aux jack.  The storm box 
does as well.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker dimensions was RE: 
Speakers

 

I don't have one of the Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speakers but I 
found no mention of it having a 3.5mm jack on the Amazon website. That doesn't 
mean it doesn't have such a jack because I find the worded product descriptions 
becoming less and less informative as pictures seem to be taking over this 
function. You might go to the Amazon website and review all the product 
questions and answers and reviews to see if they say anything about such a 
jack. Or you could try calling Amazon Accessibility and asking.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Johnna Simmons
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker dimensions was RE: 
Speakers

 

H hi You said that this speaker could connect to the victor stream. I have a 
second generation victor stream. I did not know it had Bluetooth capability. 
So, does this mean that this speaker also can hook up to an 8.5 mm Jack. Please 
advise. John

Johnna Simmons

 

On Oct 25, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



The dimensions of this speaker from the Amazon website are: 7.80 x 2.70 x 2.80 
inches. I believe that is width by height by depth. The info came from this 
website:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Tribit-MaxSound-Bluetooth-Exceptional-Waterproof/dp/B07MQWG3PR/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Tribit-MaxSound-Bluetooth-Exceptional-Waterproof/dp/B07MQWG3PR/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1=tribit+bluetooth+speaker=1603655092=electronics=1-1-spons=1=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExMk1TNE9RRkxJRERKJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDc5ODY5MThHUUIyT1hEWEpUNSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDA0MDUyMUw3UUgxOE9YU1BKMCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU>
 
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Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] <mailto:[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]>  
On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 2:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Speakers

 

Andrew, I am not very good with dementions, however, the speaker can be used 
with the victor stream no problems.  I don't use mine with the victor stream, 
but this speaker and a lot of others I know about can be used with the victor 
stream.  I've got a lot of speakers I'm trying to sell that would be perfect 
with the victor stream.  I like to use a speaker with my stream and watch 
described movies it works very well.

The tribet speaker is a great speaker and I'm sure you'd like it with your 
stream.

 

On 10/25/20, Andrew J. LaPointe < <mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net> 
alapoint...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Is this the speaker that has a metal grill?  It is rubber?  Do you 

> know what the dimensions are?  One more question, can you use it with 

> the victor stream with a 3.5 plug?  Thanks so much.  I heard a sample 

> on youtube

> 

> -Original Message-

> From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegro

RE: Tribit MaxSound Plus Portable Bluetooth Speaker dimensions was RE: Speakers

[kitty hevener]

t; wrote:

>>> 

>>> ?Here you go.  This link from amazon will take you direct to the 

>>> speaker.  The price is $57 and it is totally worth every penny.

>>> 

>>>  <https://www.amazon.com/Tribit-Bluetooth-Speaker-Portable-Waterproof/> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Tribit-Bluetooth-Speaker-Portable-Waterproof/

>>> d 

>>> p/B0784ZQFHZ/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-p13n1_0?cv_ct_cx=tribit+stormbox+

>>> s 

>>> peaker=1=tribit+stormbox+speaker_rd_i=B0784ZQFHZ&

>>> p 

>>> d_rd_r=db404f53-9e5e-4e32-a673-98e5e1c3a944_rd_w=WUjKh_rd_wg=T

>>> u 

>>> tAz_rd_p=d8781cb2-590e-4599-9299-188f35162ede_rd_r=8TYQ6Q298MX

>>> X 

>>> 4QY19CTX=1=1603595344=1-1-791c2399-d602-4248-afbb-8a79de2

>>> d

>>> 236f

>>> 

>>>> On 10/24/20, Rebecca Sabo < <mailto:beckyas...@gmail.com> 
>>>> beckyas...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Hi

>>>> Where do you get these kind of speakers?

>>>> Becky

>>>> 

>>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> 

>>>> On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Marty Hutchings 

>>>> < <mailto:mhutchings152...@gmail.com> mhutchings152...@gmail.com>

>>>> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> ?Thanks,  I had spelled Tribit wrong.  I have since found it and 

>>>> you are right, it is a very impressive speaker.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> Love in Christ

>>>> Marty

>>>> If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree 

>>>> with William Shakespeare who said:  Life is a tale told by an 

>>>> idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.  From TODAY IN 

>>>> THE WORD June 1, 2020 -Original Message- From: Joshua 

>>>> Hendrickson

>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:22 PM

>>>> To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com

>>>> Subject: Re: Speakers

>>>> 

>>>> The speaker is the tribit stormbox speaker.  It is a very nice speaker.

>>>> 

>>>>> On 9/19/20, Richard Turner < <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>>> richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

>>>>> I searched for Tribet speakers and got this link:

>>>>>  <https://www.tribitaudio.com/> https://www.tribitaudio.com/

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> Richard

>>>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he 

>>>>> must pass himself,  and we forget that only grace can break the 

>>>>> cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while 

>>>>> I have regretted not granting grace to others, I ve never once 

>>>>> regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

>>>>> 

>>>>> -Original Message-

>>>>> From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com < 
>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com> On 

>>>>> Behalf Of Marty Hutchings

>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:28 PM

>>>>> To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com

>>>>> Subject: Re: Speakers

>>>>> 

>>>>> What is Tribet?  When I search it, I get gambling sites or 

>>>>> pharmaceuticals.

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> Love in Christ

>>>>> Marty

>>>>> If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree 

>>>>> with William Shakespeare who said:  Life is a tale told by an 

>>>>> idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.  From TODAY IN 

>>>>> THE WORD June 1, 2020 -Original

>>>>> Message-

>>>>> From: kitty hevener

>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 9:05 PM

>>>>> To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com

>>>>> Subject: RE: Speakers

>>>>> 

>>>>> Andy, I just purchased a speaker from Tribet which I really think 

>>>>> gives some of the bose speakers a run for the money.  It was 

>>>>> either the storm box or box storm.  It has surround sound, is 

>>>>> waterproof,and easy to distinguish controls.  It gives a series of 

>>>>> beeps from low to high when powere

RE: Siri quit saying things regarding sports

[kitty hevener]

Richard, I am having the same problem with siri that you are having.  I have 
hard the same thing from at least four other blind people who are using ios 14. 
 I am not using the latest ios update, but am still having the problem.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri quit saying things regarding sports

OK, I just confirmed that.
So, maybe amazon has solved the bug but Apple has not.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Richard:

I just asked Alexa about the game in New Orleans last night and she gave me the 
correct answer. 

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RE: Amazon Music

[kitty hevener]

O, so if I understand u right, it will use my existing account rather than 
making me get a new one.  Thanks much.  

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Facer
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Hi all,

Maria, I hear exactly what you heard. It does that until I start playing a 
song. Once I started playing one song, VoiceOver came back the way it should. I 
don't know what happened here.

Kitty,

Like Mary said, you need the Amazon Music app from the app store. Once you 
download it, you'll have to sign in with your Amazon email and password. You 
then can enjoy the playlists and songs that you have created the your Alexa 
device. Hope this helps.

I will definitely report this issue regarding the VoiceOver only being heard 
through the top speaker to Amazon.

Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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> Just today, when I open Amazon music on my iPhone7, I can't hear speech out 
> of the bottom speaker, but can hear it through the top speaker or whatever 
> that hole is at the top.  I have to mess around with swipes till I get the 
> sound as it belongs.  Any ideas?  Thanks.
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RE: Amazon Music

[kitty hevener]

I saw the ap.  However, I already have an account (music unlimited) on the echo 
dot.  Am tryng to link it so can listen to it on either the echo dot or my I 
phone.  I did a search in the help section of alexa ap and could not find a 
skill.  

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Brandt
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2020 11:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon Music

Amazon music has its own iPhone app.


> On Oct 3, 2020, at 11:49 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
> I think you can do it through the Alexa app on the iphone..
> 
> Cait
> 
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2020, at 10:37 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>> Marie, how did u get amazon music on your I phone?  I have it on my echo dot 
>> and would love to get my play lists and other stuff on my iphone.  
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
>> Campbell
>> Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2020 1:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Amazon Music
>> 
>> Just today, when I open Amazon music on my iPhone7, I can't hear speech out 
>> of the bottom speaker, but can hear it through the top speaker or whatever 
>> that hole is at the top.  I have to mess around with swipes till I get the 
>> sound as it belongs.  Any ideas?  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: Amazon Music

[kitty hevener]

Marie, how did u get amazon music on your I phone?  I have it on my echo dot 
and would love to get my play lists and other stuff on my iphone.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2020 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Amazon Music

Just today, when I open Amazon music on my iPhone7, I can't hear speech out of 
the bottom speaker, but can hear it through the top speaker or whatever that 
hole is at the top.  I have to mess around with swipes till I get the sound as 
it belongs.  Any ideas?  Thanks.



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RE: Cheat-Sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

[kitty hevener]

Ric hard, this is awesome.  How does a light dependent person get to the ap 
switcher to close aps.  A friend complains that her battery doesn’t last long.  
When I took a look at her phone, she had a boatload of aps and alerts.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cheat-Sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

 

Hi,

so timely you post this and thank you for it. It is a great complement to the 
message someone else posted a while back describing what many of the icons look 
like.

Just yesterday a sighted friend was trying to delete a reminder for instance 
and I knew how we did it but couldn't translate it to him. Eventually I think 
he said something about swiping right or left on it I can't recall which that's 
the only gesture I'd be curious to have added to the list.

thanks for this.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 10/1/2020 6:37 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users


 

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

 

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.

 

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

 

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

 

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.

 

This is a start anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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RE: linking sirius xm to my echo dot

[kitty hevener]

Robin, it worked!!!  You made my day with that help.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: linking sirius xm to my echo dot

 

Okay, Ms. Kitty

To Link YourSiriusXMRadio Account to  YourAmazonAlexa i.e., AmazonEcho, You 
must 
Go into Your AmazonAlexa MobileApp, & SearchFor the AlexaSkill: SiriusXM Radio, 
& then  Enable  the SiriusXM Radio Skill by Loggin' IN to YourSiriusXM Account 
with  YourSiriusXM Radio UserName & Password

You can Ask Amazon'sAlexa  to Enable/Open the  SiriusXM Radio Skill, & maybe 
that will Eliminate  the Need to Search  Alexa'sSkills for the SiriusXM Radio 
skill.

Hope this Helps

Also, when  Streamin' Music/Content, Users must Say: Alexa, Play ... ON  
SiriusXM i.e.,  Alexa, Play the 49ers ON SiriusXM

At 09:36 AM 9/29/2020, you wrote:




I have sirius on my computer and iphone.  I understand that it can be used with 
alexa (echo dot).  I have looked through the help and feedback section of the 
alexa ap and can not find anything.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  
Thanks.  

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linking sirius xm to my echo dot

[kitty hevener]

I have sirius on my computer and iphone.  I understand that it can be used
with alexa (echo dot).  I have looked through the help and feedback section
of the alexa ap and can not find anything.  Any help would be greatly
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RE: Good news for Sirius XM football fans

[kitty hevener]

Marie, Since you have never used Sirius xm before, I encourage you to check out 
the trial plan that gives u 90 days for free then charges $13.00 per month plus 
taxes and fees.  This plan does not require you to have a satellite radio, as 
many of them do.  It’s called premier streaming.  I found that you have to 
register or sign up for the plan via computer.  However, once enrolled, you can 
use the sirius xm ap.  Hope u get this in time to enjoy Sunday football.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Good news for Sirius XM football fans

 

Is this the plan for 16.99 per month?

I have never used Serious but this sounds like a winner.

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 3:20 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Good news for Sirius XM football fans

 

The article said, as of September 22nd. So, that would be now, right? 

 

 

 

Richard

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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Sep 22, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Wayne Merritt mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Not to write short messages, but this is totally awesome!!! Perhaps a
dumb question, but is this change effective immediately? If so, I can
change my subscription to go back to the Premier Streaming plan, and
save some money from the more expensive All Access package. All I
really wanted from Sirius anyway were their music channels and the
NFL. I don't really care about other sports all that much. Wow, this
is cool!

Wayne

On 9/22/20, Gordon mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com> > 
wrote:



I know you'll love this.

http://www.insideradio.com/free/siriusxm-streaming-only-subscribers-now-able-to-access-nfl-game-day-broadcasts/article_6f0dc69a-fd10-11ea-8a06-f77c15711f76.html

 



 

 

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RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

[kitty hevener]

Richard, I sent feedback to them.  Thanks.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 1:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

There is a feedback section in the helps within the app where you can write 
them and they actually respond if that doesn't work I'll find the email I used.

They need to know about this because they're using foursquare for their points 
of interest and that's highly unreliable in my opinion.

They're looking at using Apple Maps I believe for points of interest.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Sep 25, 2020, at 7:31 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

So glad u enlightened me in that it can be used indoors and outdoors.  I did a 
look around in my neighborhood and discovered that some of the info is correct, 
but there is one or two places that have been closed for quite a while and the 
buildings are not there.  Wonder who I can contact to make the correction.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

It works fine outdoors.

It is designed to take advantage of indoor navigation if it is available, but 
its main function is for use outdoors.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

Richard, have u used good maps explore outdoors?  If u have, how does it 
compare to nearby explorer?  I thought it was indoor only.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

Christine,In my opinion, Apple Maps is harder to use with VoiceOver, though it 
can somehow be set to give more street information.Good Maps Explore or Nearby 
Explorer online, are the best two free apps that will combine turn-by-turn 
directions with providing the street information Be aware that Points of 
Interest are only as accurate as the digital map data, and depending on the 
source, it can be several years out off date.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Sep 25, 2020, at 4:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 Thanks for this. 

Kristeen

 

 

On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Yes.

If you just want turn-by-turn directions either walking or driving, Google Maps 
is very good.

If you want something that will tell you about the streets you are crossing, 
and points of interest nearby, Lazarillo is very good and free.

It can also give you walking turn-by-turn directions within the app, or can 
launch Google Maps and it will still give you information about the streets.

I find the Points of Interest a little too distracting, so I turn off the 
explore mode which is on by default when you launch Lazarillo.  It is a button 
at the top of the screen so easy to get to and turn off.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com< 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone

RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

[kitty hevener]

So glad u enlightened me in that it can be used indoors and outdoors.  I did a 
look around in my neighborhood and discovered that some of the info is correct, 
but there is one or two places that have been closed for quite a while and the 
buildings are not there.  Wonder who I can contact to make the correction.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

It works fine outdoors.

It is designed to take advantage of indoor navigation if it is available, but 
its main function is for use outdoors.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

Richard, have u used good maps explore outdoors?  If u have, how does it 
compare to nearby explorer?  I thought it was indoor only.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

Christine,In my opinion, Apple Maps is harder to use with VoiceOver, though it 
can somehow be set to give more street information.Good Maps Explore or Nearby 
Explorer online, are the best two free apps that will combine turn-by-turn 
directions with providing the street information Be aware that Points of 
Interest are only as accurate as the digital map data, and depending on the 
source, it can be several years out off date.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Sep 25, 2020, at 4:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 Thanks for this. 

Kristeen

 

 

On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Yes.

If you just want turn-by-turn directions either walking or driving, Google Maps 
is very good.

If you want something that will tell you about the streets you are crossing, 
and points of interest nearby, Lazarillo is very good and free.

It can also give you walking turn-by-turn directions within the app, or can 
launch Google Maps and it will still give you information about the streets.

I find the Points of Interest a little too distracting, so I turn off the 
explore mode which is on by default when you launch Lazarillo.  It is a button 
at the top of the screen so easy to get to and turn off.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com< 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:04 AM
To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

Hello,

 

Is there any gps app free and easy to use?

 

Thanks,

 

Rena

 

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RE: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

[kitty hevener]

Richard, have u used good maps explore outdoors?  If u have, how does it 
compare to nearby explorer?  I thought it was indoor only.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

Christine,In my opinion, Apple Maps is harder to use with VoiceOver, though it 
can somehow be set to give more street information.Good Maps Explore or Nearby 
Explorer online, are the best two free apps that will combine turn-by-turn 
directions with providing the street information Be aware that Points of 
Interest are only as accurate as the digital map data, and depending on the 
source, it can be several years out off date.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Sep 25, 2020, at 4:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 Thanks for this. 

Kristeen

 

 

On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Yes.

If you just want turn-by-turn directions either walking or driving, Google Maps 
is very good.

If you want something that will tell you about the streets you are crossing, 
and points of interest nearby, Lazarillo is very good and free.

It can also give you walking turn-by-turn directions within the app, or can 
launch Google Maps and it will still give you information about the streets.

I find the Points of Interest a little too distracting, so I turn off the 
explore mode which is on by default when you launch Lazarillo.  It is a button 
at the top of the screen so easy to get to and turn off.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com< 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 10:04 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any recommendation about gps for iPhone?

 

Hello,

 

Is there any gps app free and easy to use?

 

Thanks,

 

Rena

 

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RE: Good news for Sirius XM football fans

[kitty hevener]

I am not familiar with the premier streaming package.  Does that one allow you 
to gain access via computer and iphone ap?  Do u get to choose between the home 
and away feeds, or just the home feeds?  Thanks for your help.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Good news for Sirius XM football fans

 

Well, maybe that explains why the games are no longer available on TuneIn 
premium. 

 

 

 

Richard

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RE: listening to NFL games

[kitty hevener]

Yes, that works.  I was thinking of situations when u don’t know what station 
to go to.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

I just ask the Echo to play the station, like, play 107.7 The Bone.

 

Andy

 

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From: kitty hevener <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 9:00 PM

Subject: RE: listening to NFL games

 

Hi Andy, when u are listening via echo devices, do u use iheart and give a 
specific station to go to?

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

Fortunately, being a 49er fan, I can listen either through Game Day or on my 
Echo devices.  Because we have two football teams here in LA it is very 
unlikely that 49er games will be on TV except the two times a year when the 
Niners play the Rams.

 

Andy

 

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From: kitty hevener <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 4:24 PM

Subject: RE: listening to NFL games

 

Marie, I would like them.  But, since I am assuming it is not good to post the 
list of stations (not Iphone related), would you email them to 

kheve...@earthlink.net <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> 

Thanks

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 5:31 PM
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Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

I have great results with the Game Day Pro Football app but sometimes you just 
have to listen to a station other than the local. I am a Hawks fan and if you 
go to either Tune in or I Heart app and search for KGAL which is in Oregon, 
they broadcast all the Hawks games and it is from KIRO, the local Seattle 
station. I can not get the games directly from KIRO since they block it here in 
Reno for some dumb reason. I have station for several other locals if anyone 
wants them.

Marie

 

From: Holly 

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:05 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

Kitty:

 

I also found that game day pro football was not what it was cracked up to be.  
I found that I wasn’t able to listen to my local station broadcast of the game. 
 I didn’t go all through the list of stations, but the first four or five.

 

I gave up quickly, as wanted to listen to the game, so just left it on the TV.

 

Maybe I didn’t give it a fighting chance, but will try to see if I get better 
results when I am watching a game that I don’t care about as much as the one 
last night.

 

Such a great game!  Go Hawks!

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[kitty hevener]

Hi Andy, when u are listening via echo devices, do u use iheart and give a 
specific station to go to?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

Fortunately, being a 49er fan, I can listen either through Game Day or on my 
Echo devices.  Because we have two football teams here in LA it is very 
unlikely that 49er games will be on TV except the two times a year when the 
Niners play the Rams.

 

Andy

 

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From: kitty hevener <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 4:24 PM

Subject: RE: listening to NFL games

 

Marie, I would like them.  But, since I am assuming it is not good to post the 
list of stations (not Iphone related), would you email them to 

kheve...@earthlink.net <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> 

Thanks

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 5:31 PM
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Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

I have great results with the Game Day Pro Football app but sometimes you just 
have to listen to a station other than the local. I am a Hawks fan and if you 
go to either Tune in or I Heart app and search for KGAL which is in Oregon, 
they broadcast all the Hawks games and it is from KIRO, the local Seattle 
station. I can not get the games directly from KIRO since they block it here in 
Reno for some dumb reason. I have station for several other locals if anyone 
wants them.

Marie

 

From: Holly 

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:05 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

Kitty:

 

I also found that game day pro football was not what it was cracked up to be.  
I found that I wasn’t able to listen to my local station broadcast of the game. 
 I didn’t go all through the list of stations, but the first four or five.

 

I gave up quickly, as wanted to listen to the game, so just left it on the TV.

 

Maybe I didn’t give it a fighting chance, but will try to see if I get better 
results when I am watching a game that I don’t care about as much as the one 
last night.

 

Such a great game!  Go Hawks!

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RE: listening to NFL games

[kitty hevener]

Robin, do u use a radio or online for access to sirius xm?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: listening to NFL games

 

SiriusXMRadio works as Far as  My NonTechSavySelf knows, as  I haven't 
encountered  any Difficulty Streamin' or Listenin'To  NFL Games 
Note:
I'm a  Homer, so My NFL Teams are Local NFL Teams, & I would MostLikely Be Able 
to ListenTo them anyways  via Local  Radio Broadcasts in MyArea

At 10:17 AM 9/21/2020, you wrote:




Yes, that was an awesome game and was quite pleased with the outcome smile!

Am feeling like only options are either the nfl game pass or sirius xm.  

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

Kitty:

 

I also found that game day pro football was not what it was cracked up to be.  
I found that I wasn’t able to listen to my local station broadcast of the 
game.  I didn’t go all through the list of stations, but the first four or 
five.

 

I gave up quickly, as wanted to listen to the game, so just left it on the TV.

 

Maybe I didn’t give it a fighting chance, but will try to see if I get better 
results when I am watching a game that I don’t care about as much as the one 
last night.

 

Such a great game!  Go Hawks!

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RE: listening to NFL games

[kitty hevener]

Thanks for letting me know.  I will give it another try.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 8:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

I just checked on Game Day Pro Football radio: both the first New Orleans 
Radio, and the first Raiders' radio work fine. 

Remember that sometimesduring commercials there is silence, or some music 
playing, which may make you think there is no game on.

Also, remember Raiders are listed as Los Vegas.

 

 

 

Richard

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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Sep 21, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Robin mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 SiriusXMRadio works as Far as  My NonTechSavySelf knows, as  I haven't 
encountered  any Difficulty Streamin' or Listenin'To  NFL Games 
Note:
I'm a  Homer, so My NFL Teams are Local NFL Teams, & I would MostLikely Be Able 
to ListenTo them anyways  via Local  Radio Broadcasts in MyArea

At 10:17 AM 9/21/2020, you wrote:




Yes, that was an awesome game and was quite pleased with the outcome smile!

Am feeling like only options are either the nfl game pass or sirius xm.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

Kitty:

 

I also found that game day pro football was not what it was cracked up to be.  
I found that I wasn’t able to listen to my local station broadcast of the 
game.  I didn’t go all through the list of stations, but the first four or 
five.

 

I gave up quickly, as wanted to listen to the game, so just left it on the TV.

 

Maybe I didn’t give it a fighting chance, but will try to see if I get better 
results when I am watching a game that I don’t care about as much as the one 
last night.

 

Such a great game!  Go Hawks!

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RE: listening to NFL games

[kitty hevener]

Marie, I would like them.  But, since I am assuming it is not good to post the 
list of stations (not Iphone related), would you email them to 

kheve...@earthlink.net  

Thanks

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

I have great results with the Game Day Pro Football app but sometimes you just 
have to listen to a station other than the local. I am a Hawks fan and if you 
go to either Tune in or I Heart app and search for KGAL which is in Oregon, 
they broadcast all the Hawks games and it is from KIRO, the local Seattle 
station. I can not get the games directly from KIRO since they block it here in 
Reno for some dumb reason. I have station for several other locals if anyone 
wants them.

Marie

 

From: Holly 

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:05 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

Kitty:

 

I also found that game day pro football was not what it was cracked up to be.  
I found that I wasn’t able to listen to my local station broadcast of the game. 
 I didn’t go all through the list of stations, but the first four or five.

 

I gave up quickly, as wanted to listen to the game, so just left it on the TV.

 

Maybe I didn’t give it a fighting chance, but will try to see if I get better 
results when I am watching a game that I don’t care about as much as the one 
last night.

 

Such a great game!  Go Hawks!

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RE: listening to NFL games

[kitty hevener]

Hi Richard, let me know how it goes.  I was quite surprised, cuz last week, I 
was able to listen to the vikings with no problem.  Yesterday, I could not get 
any response when I selected the “radio button”.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: listening to NFL games

 

I did not try getting the Seahawks on Game Day because there is a local AM 
station that carries the Seahawks.

But, other games I tried worked fine on one of the first two options.

I may try the Saints/Raiders game tonight and see how it goes.

 

 

 

Richard

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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: listening to NFL games

 

Yes, that was an awesome game and was quite pleased with the outcome smile!

Am feeling like only options are either the nfl game pass or sirius xm.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

Kitty:

 

I also found that game day pro football was not what it was cracked up to be.  
I found that I wasn’t able to listen to my local station broadcast of the game. 
 I didn’t go all through the list of stations, but the first four or five.

 

I gave up quickly, as wanted to listen to the game, so just left it on the TV.

 

Maybe I didn’t give it a fighting chance, but will try to see if I get better 
results when I am watching a game that I don’t care about as much as the one 
last night.

 

Such a great game!  Go Hawks!

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RE: listening to NFL games

[kitty hevener]

Yes, that was an awesome game and was quite pleased with the outcome smile!

Am feeling like only options are either the nfl game pass or sirius xm.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: listening to NFL games

 

Kitty:

 

I also found that game day pro football was not what it was cracked up to be.  
I found that I wasn’t able to listen to my local station broadcast of the game. 
 I didn’t go all through the list of stations, but the first four or five.

 

I gave up quickly, as wanted to listen to the game, so just left it on the TV.

 

Maybe I didn’t give it a fighting chance, but will try to see if I get better 
results when I am watching a game that I don’t care about as much as the one 
last night.

 

Such a great game!  Go Hawks!

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listening to NFL games

[kitty hevener]

Yesterday, I had a rude awakening.  I thought I had found a way to listen to
game via game day  or perhaps it is game day pro radio, a paid ap.  Much to
my disappointment, I found that not all local stations would play.  In fact,
the only one I got to play was the packers.  Wondering if anyone else
experienced this and if you found any other accessible aps to solve the
problem?

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RE: Speakers

[kitty hevener]

Oops, sorry for confusion resulting from misspelling on my part.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marty 
Hutchings
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers

Thanks,  I had spelled Tribit wrong.  I have since found it and you are right, 
it is a very impressive speaker.



Love in Christ
Marty
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fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speakers

The speaker is the tribit stormbox speaker.  It is a very nice speaker.

On 9/19/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I searched for Tribet speakers and got this link:
> https://www.tribitaudio.com/
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
> Edward
> Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Marty
> Hutchings
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speakers
>
> What is Tribet?  When I search it, I get gambling sites or 
> pharmaceuticals.
>
>
>
> Love in Christ
> Marty
> If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with 
> William
> Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and
> fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 
> 2020 -Original
> Message-
> From: kitty hevener
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 9:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Speakers
>
> Andy, I just purchased a speaker from Tribet which I really think gives 
> some
> of the bose speakers a run for the money.  It was either the storm box or
> box storm.  It has surround sound, is waterproof,and easy to distinguish
> controls.  It gives a series of beeps from low to high when powered on and
> vv when off.  The blue tooth pairing uses two tones to help u know when
> device is successfully paired.  You can adjust the bass (add bass or take 
> it
> away).  I caught it on sale from amazon for somewhere in the $50 price
> range.  I have successfully paired it with the original apple SE phone.
> Hope that helps.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 4:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; jfw-us...@groups.io
> Subject: Speakers
>
> Hi, I was asking around for a great quality Bluetooth speaker for my 
> Iphone
> and my victor stream 1st gen.  It would be best for me to ask my friends
> here as you all have likely a demanding high quality opinion on sound.  I
> have a Bose speaker and I just don't like the boom boom sound.  I would 
> like
> to find a speaker where you can adjust on the speaker the volume, treble 
> and
> bass levels to suit my needs.  Can I ask you all on suggestions on a not 
> too
> big Bluetooth speaker that also can connect to my victor stream?  I like 
> to
> listen to music and audible books as well as Bard n l s books.
> I also have a lansing Bluetooth speaker but like the Bose, doesn't have 
> the
> various treble and bass choices.  I greatly appreciate your suggestions.
> Thanks a million.  Andy and Shubert
>
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RE: Speakers

[kitty hevener]

Andy, I just purchased a speaker from Tribet which I really think gives some of 
the bose speakers a run for the money.  It was either the storm box or box 
storm.  It has surround sound, is waterproof,and easy to distinguish controls.  
It gives a series of beeps from low to high when powered on and vv when off.  
The blue tooth pairing uses two tones to help u know when device is 
successfully paired.  You can adjust the bass (add bass or take it away).  I 
caught it on sale from amazon for somewhere in the $50 price range.  I have 
successfully paired it with the original apple SE phone.  Hope that helps.  

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J. LaPointe
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 4:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; jfw-us...@groups.io
Subject: Speakers

Hi, I was asking around for a great quality Bluetooth speaker for my Iphone and 
my victor stream 1st gen.  It would be best for me to ask my friends here as 
you all have likely a demanding high quality opinion on sound.  I have a Bose 
speaker and I just don't like the boom boom sound.  I would like to find a 
speaker where you can adjust on the speaker the volume, treble and bass levels 
to suit my needs.  Can I ask you all on suggestions on a not too big Bluetooth 
speaker that also can connect to my victor stream?  I like to listen to music 
and audible books as well as Bard n l s books.
I also have a lansing Bluetooth speaker but like the Bose, doesn't have the 
various treble and bass choices.  I greatly appreciate your suggestions.
Thanks a million.  Andy and Shubert 

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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RE: iOS14 Update Won't Download

[kitty hevener]

Richard, r u saying that the original se still will support ios 14? How 
exciting!!!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 7:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS14 Update Won't Download

 

I updated my first generation SE with no problems, but it has about 60 GB 
free.If you have say less than 8 GB free you may be running into a memory issue 
while it is going through the process. Have you tried updating through iTunes 
Also, have you cleared the app switcher and rebooted?You probably have, but 
just thinking out loud.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Sep 18, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Mike B mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi All,

 

I'm trying to update my SE 2016 1st generation to the iOS14, but I keep getting 
an error message stating that the download has failed.  I'm not having any 
internet service interruptions, so does anyone know what could be causing this 
problem?  This iPhone is compatible for iOS14, so I don't have a clue why it 
won't.  All help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

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RE: Please explore a wonderful gift by APH, GoodMaps Explore

[kitty hevener]

Amny, my  understanding from them is that nearby explorer will be free to 
everyone from now on.  So, eventually the paid version will not be updated, 
just the free one.  Not exactly sure when that will take affect.  

-Original Message-
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Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Please explore a wonderful gift by APH, GoodMaps Explore

Does anyone know if they will keep updating Nearby Explorer?  I have the paid 
version.
Thanks,
Amy

On 9/15/20, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> I did mean Canada too   But  I’m not sure if it is available in Canada
> appstore yet.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 15, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Fazil  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> When you say ‘North America’, does it include Canada?
>> Thanks!
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of TaraPrakash
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 7:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Please explore a wonderful gift by APH, GoodMaps Explore
>>
>> Under the auspice of American printing House, I don’t think this app 
>> will be available anywhere else except North America anytime soon. It 
>> should be so easy to make it Universally  available though.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2020, at 6:56 PM, Malcolm Parfitt 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Not available here in the UK so I don’t know how widely available it 
>> is I suspect not widely at all.
>>
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>
>>
>> On 14 Sep 2020, at 23:24, Richard Turner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Note, when it loads onto your iPhone, it will be called Explore, not 
>> Good Maps or even Good Maps Explore.
>>
>> If you want to send feedback or ask questions, the support address is 
>> supp...@goodmaps.com Their phone is: (502) 845-3113
>>
>> I found 2 out of date Points Of Interest within two blocks of my 
>> house in the first 15 minutes of using the Look Around tab.
>> I sent them that information.
>>
>> You can search for an address or POI from the location screen.
>> You can use a “getting warmer” method, or get directions using Google 
>> Maps or Apple Maps launched from within the app.
>>
>> For a first release, this looks quite impressive.
>>
>> One more note, One of the out of date POI locations is a restaurant 
>> that has been out of business for at least 3 years, so I searched for 
>> the name of the new restaurant that went in about 6 months after the 
>> other one closed and found it easily.
>> So, it is in their data base, they just have to update the info 
>> spoken  in the Look Around tab.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of TaraPrakash
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 2:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Please explore a wonderful gift by APH, GoodMaps Explore
>>
>> GoodMaps is proud to announce the release of GoodMaps Explore, an 
>> accessible wayfinding app designed primarily for people who are blind 
>> or visually impaired, which sets a new standard for indoor navigation 
>> across the globe. GoodMaps Explore uses audio instructions to 
>> communicate routing and critical spatial information as users move 
>> through a space, whether indoors or outdoors, drawing upon GoodMaps’ 
>> state-of-the-art digital maps.
>> In doing so, GoodMaps has solved four problems that have frustrated 
>> the field for several decades by:
>>
>> 1. delivering superior positioning accuracy with minimal 
>> infrastructure, 2. dramatically speeding the process to digitally map 
>> a building, which provides the foundation for the app, 3. creating a 
>> way for building owners to securely control their mapping data, 4. 
>> providing the public with a complete package of maps with an app to 
>> actually use them.
>>
>>
>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/goodmaps-explore/id1524698552
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RE: audio Stream of NFL Games

[kitty hevener]

Marie, have u found a way to get the broadcasts from westwood 1?  While some of 
the locals do a great job, others drive me away from the game completely.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audio Stream of NFL Games

 

I am using the Game Day pro football radio app and it is near perfect. I was 
able to find and listen to all the games I was interested in this weekend. 
These included Chiefs, Seahawks, 49ers, Saints and Cowboys. I could not ask for 
more. LOL! It was football heaven.

Marie

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 7:31 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: audio Stream of NFL Games

 

You may want to try Game Day which I think is around ¢99 and can be a bit 
spotty. it has not been updated for two years. I will try it tonight, and see 
if it works. Then, I too will likely cancel my TuneIn premium. 
   Here 
is the link in the app store if you want to get x. 

 

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gamay-pro-football-radio/id9285799279927927 
  

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Sep 14, 2020, at 7:22 AM, Lynda Ingraham mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

hi,

I am wondering what apps people are using to listen to the audio streams of NFL 
games. I had renewed my tune in radio pro premium only to find out they're not 
carrying audio streams this year. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am a 
buffalo bills fan.

Thank you very much.

Lynda

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RE: audio Stream of NFL Games

[kitty hevener]

I have used the game day pro ap, and found it to be very good.  Main issue is 
that it does not broadcast the national or westwood 1 feeds.  It only does the 
local.  I used tune in most of the time, because it did have national feeds for 
the Sunday night, Monday and thursday night games.  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: audio Stream of NFL Games

OK, since there are multiple apps with the same or similar names, here is what 
I know.
1.  Game Day Pro Football radio,  by Thanh Ho, not usre of the current price 
but  was updated 2 years ago and I know from someone else that it is working 
great!
2.  Pro Football Radio and live scores, by Red Ripe media 99¢ has not been 
updated for 5 years.
3.  Pro Football radio and live scores plus highlights by JJACR Apps LLC 99¢  
has not been updated for 3 years.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: audio Stream of NFL Games

Linda,

This is the app that I was referring too .. 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Stacy 
Fuehrer
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: audio Stream of NFL Games

Good morning, Linda.
Are use an app called Pro Radio. In the App Store, it is two words, the P on 
pro and we are on radio must be capitalized in the search.
It hasn’t been updated for a while, but, I used it over the weekend, and it 
worked great.
It has stations for all 32 teams
I think it is $1.99, but definitely worth it Let us know how it goes

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 14, 2020, at 9:22 AM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> I am wondering what apps people are using to listen to the audio streams of 
> NFL games. I had renewed my tune in radio pro premium only to find out 
> they're not carrying audio streams this year. Does anyone have any 
> suggestions? I am a buffalo bills fan.
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Lynda
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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apple music

[kitty hevener]

I am currently using apple music on my iphone SE old.  I would like to put
songs from my active phone on to a iphone that is not connected.  I would
like to put them on the inactive iphone so I could just listen to them off
line.  Can this be done?  If so, how?  I did call apple accessibility and
got no help.  

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my iphone stopped working on my wifi

[kitty hevener]

Everything else in my house is connected to wifi and working fine.  My
iphone would not connect when I got home this evening.  I am asking for
ideas on how to get it to connect again.  I have tried the following:

1.  Chose wifi from the settings menu and tried to reconnect.  I typed
in my wifi password and the phone rejected it.  This has happened several
times.  
2.  Powered off phone and back on.  Still no wifi.  Went to wifi in
setting and tried to connect.  No luck.  Wifi signal shows 3 of 3 bars, but
can not connect.  Help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

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RE: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

[kitty hevener]

Yes, I used to get my bill in braille and it was awesome.  But, like ann, to 
save where I could, I had to go with autopay so no longer need braille bill.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anne West
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 2:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

Thanks! I would like a braille bill but I had to go paperless to get a discount 
on unlimited data. Boo hiss!!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 8:47
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
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Just a note, you can get your bill from Verizon in Braille.

 

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 

From: Kay Malmquist   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 4:25 AM

Subject: Re: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

Yes, I found that number quite interesting.  Does anyone know if AT has one 
as well?

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

 

When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.
— Lao Tzu 
  

- Original Message - 

From: Les Kriegler   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 3:17 PM

Subject: RE: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

Hi Alan,

This is great information. I didn’t know Verizon had an accessibility 
department. I called and found out they are open from 8 AM to 9 PM 
Monday-Friday. I’m certain I’ll be speaking with them.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

Arnold,

 

The Verizon Accessibility phone number is 888-262-1999. Their website is:

 

http://www.vzw.com/accessibility

 

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Verizon Accessibility Number, was Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

What is the Verizon Accessibility number?I want to check into these plans, I 
hope they are not just lans for your area.  Thanks in advance. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six


On Jul 18, 2020, at 12:21 AM, R Van Lant mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com> > wrote:

I did call Verizon Accessibility today and had them walk me through my current 
bill; that gave me an opportunity to ask a few questions about pricing.  Thank 
goodness for the accessibility line.  When I tried calling the regular number, 
I was given this message about the reduced staff due to COVID and pretty much 
given the only option of clicking on a link they texted to me to do an online 
chat session.  I hung up and called the accessibility line and got a person 
after maybe a 10 minute wait.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

Xfinity is great if you have their internet. 

We were on Consumer cellular before Xfinity offered their plan.

Consumer cellular was quite affordable and very good customer service.

I suggest calling the various companies.

I know Consumer Cellular will give you all the details up front.

Verizon does have an accessibility department, so maybe they would be more 
helpful.

I don't have much experience with anyone else.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:36 PM, R Van Lant mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com> > wrote:

 

Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find 
out how much plans cost?  I’m currently on Verizon with my new unlocked SE 2020 
and want to look at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out T-Mobile’s 
site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with Verizon’s site. 
It’s like they are hiding the various pricing on calling plans.   Am I missing 
something?  For those who have shopped around, what is your method?  I’m 

RE: shopping for mobile plans

[kitty hevener]

Alan, thanks for pricing info re verizon.  Like you, I use their prepaid plans 
with autopay.  I thought I had a good deal with 6 gb data and unlimited calling 
and texting for around $35.00.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 12:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: shopping for mobile plans

 

I personally like the Verizon prepaid plans. They have currently lowered the 
price of these plans and you can get 5GB of data with unlimited talk and 
texting for $30 a month. If you set your account up with autopay, you get an 
additional discount of $5 per month bringing the total to $25 per month. They 
have recently introduced a loyalty discount if you have a prepaid plan which 
costs $40 or more per month. With this loyalty discount, your price is reduced 
an additional $5 per month after you've submitted three payments and an 
additional $5 per month for a total loyalty discount of $10 per month after 
nine payments. Their 15GB prepaid plan has recently been reduced to $40 per 
month so with the loyalty discount in full effect along with the autopay 
discount, you can get 15GB of data with unlimited talk and text for $25 per 
month.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Samco
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: shopping for mobile plans

 

I recently helped a family member sign up at a Verizon store for pre-pay 
service. After the first month, which inclujded a set up fee of $10 or so, it 
is $30.30 for unlimited calls and text, and 1GB of data even  though the rep 
said it would be  500 MB.

I personally use Visible.com. Go to their website and they only offer one plan 
and it is described very clearly. Also read reviews to make sure you can live 
with the  very slight  drawbacks. I love the service and only pay $25 monthly 
for unlimited calls, text, data and hotspot. It uses the Verizon network.

Jeff

At 07:36 PM 7/16/2020, you wrote:

Is it just me, or have cell phone carriers made it ridiculously hard to find 
out how much plans cost?  I’m currently on Verizon with my new unlocked SE 2020 
and want to look at potentially switching. I cannot even figure out T-Mobile’s 
site, even with the accessibility mode turned on. Same with Verizon’s site. 
It’s like they are hiding the various pricing on calling plans.   Am I missing 
something?  For those who have shopped around, what is your method?  I’m 
inclined to go to a store to at least get some answers, but haven’t had the 
time.  
 
Any advice is appreciated.  I looked at Xfinity Mobile, which is at least 
easier to navigate, but it looks like you have to have their internet service, 
which I do not. 
 
 
 
 

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RE: IOS 13.6 question

[kitty hevener]

O, do those things still exist?  

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Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 13.6 question

or
checkin' YourWatch i.e., Your TimePiece LOL HaHaHa LOL

Seriously, SomeTimes I would PickUp  My iPhone, To Find Out "what" 
Time it is, so I  completely understand  the "issue" with Pressing the 
Powr/Side button to accomplish this Task

At 04:16 PM 7/17/2020, you wrote:
>Or, what about just asking siri what time it is?
>
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>That's a good idea, Debbie.
>
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>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: IOS 13.6 question
>
>Hi,
>
>Sometime ago I gave up on hearing the time when pushing either the 
>power or home buttons. So I put the clock app on the top right hand 
>corner of my home screen above some scanning apps. So if I want the 
>time from my iPhone it is easy to find. Your mileage may vary!
>
>Take care and have a good weekend!
>
>Debby
>
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>Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 11:12 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: IOS 13.6 question
>
>On 10's or 11's, there is no HOME button any more.
>
>
>On 7/17/2020 10:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
> > Welcome to newer iOS.
> > If you press it maybe 3 times, you will hear the time.
> > Power, never, ever, has "unlocked" the screen.
> > It might wake it up momentarily, but it is the home button that
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> >
> >
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> > Richard
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RE: IOS 13.6 question

[kitty hevener]

Or, what about just asking siri what time it is?  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 13.6 question

That's a good idea, Debbie. 

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Debby
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 13.6 question

Hi,

Sometime ago I gave up on hearing the time when pushing either the power or 
home buttons. So I put the clock app on the top right hand corner of my home 
screen above some scanning apps. So if I want the time from my iPhone it is 
easy to find. Your mileage may vary!

Take care and have a good weekend!

Debby

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Steve Matzura
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Subject: Re: IOS 13.6 question

On 10's or 11's, there is no HOME button any more.


On 7/17/2020 10:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Welcome to newer iOS.
> If you press it maybe 3 times, you will hear the time.
> Power, never, ever, has "unlocked" the screen.
> It might wake it up momentarily, but it is the home button that actually 
> unlocks it.
>
>
>
> Richard
>

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RE: Voice command

[kitty hevener]

Oops, sorry about my giving info re the wrong thing.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice command

 

I assumed Ann was talking about Voice Control, the new feature in iOS 13 that 
allows pretty complete control of any iDevice with Voice Commands. 

That is quite different from dictation and Siri.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Jul 7, 2020, at 5:27 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Hi Ann, Nost of my interaction with my Iphone is via voice commands.  It works 
quite well, most of the time.  Even when I want to search, I will hit the 
dictate button and speak what I am looking for.  

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How reliable is commanding the iPhone by voice?  What are the pitfalls for 
someone who hates technology?

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RE: Voice command

[kitty hevener]

Hi Ann, Nost of my interaction with my Iphone is via voice commands.  It works 
quite well, most of the time.  Even when I want to search, I will hit the 
dictate button and speak what I am looking for.  

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How reliable is commanding the iPhone by voice?  What are the pitfalls for 
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RE: Help with the Amazon music app

[kitty hevener]

Barbara, Not sure if this will help.  I use the echo dot II and can tell alexa  
to create a playlist, add songs to the list, etc.  I have found that I have to 
be listening to the song I want to add.  While listening I say /alexa, add to 
name of playlist.  Hope that helps.  

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Hi list. 
Does anyone have any tips and or tricks for navigating the amazon music app? It 
used to be mostly accessible but lately I have been having all kinds of trouble 
and difficulties getting the app to play the music I want it to play. 
I used to be able to select the playlists tap then choose the song from that 
list that I wanted to start playback from and I also used to be able to easily 
add and remove items from my playlists. 
I spent a frustrating couple of hours trying to get to a particular song the 
other day and I never got there. 
So does anyone have any ideas? 
Also, do you know if its possible to create playlists via the amazon website? 
Ok, thanks in advance for the help. 

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RE: Choosing a phone company

[kitty hevener]

Yeah, I did find that to be an issue when dealing consumer cellular.  Then 
again, I have found the folks at the Verizon stores not to be very 
knowledgeable.  They may know their specific product that they are selling, but 
no ability to troubleshoot.  I ended up getting the most help from apple 
accessibility and the genius bar.

I hear that t mobile is offering some good plans now that they and sprint are 
merging.  Best of luck.

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Never used them but know people that have.  The biggest problem is dealing with 
customer service if you ever need to.

Tony


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are use a company called straight talk. You can sign up at Walmart, if there’s 
one near you. A basic plan is $35 a month, and the coverage is excellent. Good 
luck. Also, their website is very accessible. Straight talk.com, and their tech 
help is also very good.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2020, at 12:06 PM, juan mojena  wrote:

I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than AT I’m trying to see if 
the company consumer cellular is any good. The rates are cheaper than AT and 
they use AT towers. Has anyone ever used this company and what do they think 
about the service?
Thank you very much in advance.
Juan


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RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone

[kitty hevener]

Arlene, not sure if have answered your questions.  Please write me off list and 
I can talk with u more about it.  I really don't want to pursue this ot topic 
on this iphone list.  Thanks.  

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Arlene
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I too, would like to know, Kitty, about this wonderful flip phone. Ann, if your 
client can find the lg exaltflip that would be wonderful. As far as the kyozera 
phones, the cadence and the dura xv, and the lg exalt, to me anyway, as far as 
accessibility and how these phones operate, the lg exalt is designed so well 
the way it works in some of the features of the phone which I could explain off 
list to you or anyone else. It's my favorite phone. The 3 phones I mentioned 
here are all verizon phones and are all 4g phones, so your client would be able 
to use them fine. To give you an idea about the prices of the flip phones that 
verizon has, The dura xv, if  she finds the newer dura xv it costs $240 I was 
told by a verizon customer service individual. The other dura xv that's also 4 
g that's been out for at least 2 or 3 years which is 4g costs $264. The cadence 
which I have is $120, and the exalt costs $144. The cadence is sold at some 
stores, such as walmart and target as a prepaid phone which in that case it 
costs about $30. There's another phone called the etalk that came out last 
august, it's a flip phone and if you get it as a prepaid it's about $25. I'm 
not sure how much the etalk is as a postpaid phone. The etalk is interesting, 
it's on an android operating system, and the text to speech's voice is the same 
voice used for talkback I think it is, though it's a basic flip phone. I just 
want to point out, for anyone that hasn't explored a flip phone in about 4 to 6 
years, these phones, while not smart phones quite, they are more advanced than 
before. For example the lg exalt and the kyozera flip phones have email that 
you could set up,. The only drawback and I don't know if it's just me and I 
don't know what to do about it or if it's just the way it is, you can't read 
the body of the message. You could hear the header, and if a link is in the 
body of the message you could hear that too, and what's neat is you could press 
the center button and it will take you on the browser to the web site. I know 
this isn't the phone list for flip phones so I apologize for all these details, 
but I just wanted to tell you a bit about the etalk. 
You can
text with the etalk, though it doesn't have a section for email. and since 
verizon is a verizon phone, the options in the area for texting and for the 
notepad, while they aren't labeled, you could easily figure out what the 
numbered option is. I would have to go to the phone to make sure I tell you 
these options right, but you'll get the idea with this example. When you press 
the left soft key the options are just numbered, such as number 1 option is for 
lower case letters number 2 option is for upper case number 3 option is for 
numbers and number 4 option is for symbols If your client likes to text, then 
any of these phones would be fine for her. The well known phone the alcatel 
doesn't speak the symbols so that wouldn't be good for anyone that likes to 
text. There's a newer model of alcatel for verizon that I haven't seen yet so I 
don't know if it's like the alcatel phones that I have, one was a prepaid from 
at and I can't remember what the other carrier was for the other phone. So 
possibly the newer one is set up better with the text to speech. Again I'm 
sorry to go into such detail about these phones, here's my email address if 
anyone has any new information about the newer alcatel or if anyone has any 
questions about the phones I mentioned, my email address is 
arlenes71...@earthlink.net I meant to mention I haven't figure out how to label 
those option buttons in the etalk but at least you could figure out what they 
are. And the sad thing is about my very favorite phone, the lg exalt, even 
though it's a 4g phone verizon has retired the phone and is no longer selling 
it, but I've found at times you could still find these phones in the stores 
that have been retired by the carrier.
Arlene



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From: "Robin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 2:19 PM
Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone


> Hey there,Miss Kitty
>
> Can you (please) Share with TheList MailingList TheName  of that 
> FlipPhone  you were Referrin'To  on VZW?
>
> Would have Written OffList, but Thought Others on  the MailingList  would 
> Also like to Know
>
> Blessin's
> At 11:04 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
>>Ann, I actually happen to have a flip phone that works on Verizon as that 
>>is my carrier.  The only thing your client might need to find out is if 
>>Verizon still supportsthe slower service.
>>  It does have more 

RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone

[kitty hevener]

Yes it is.  Since this is an I phone list, think we should take further 
discussion of it off list.  

-Original Message-
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Robin
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 3:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone

revere 2??? Is that MadeBy LG?
By Yours???  Sure, Make me AnOffer? LOL LaughingOutLoud LOL At 12:45 PM 
6/8/2020, you wrote:
>I believe it is the revere 2.  Wanna buy mine?  lol
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Robin
>Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 3:19 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone
>
>Hey there,Miss Kitty
>
>Can you (please) Share with TheList MailingList TheName  of that  
>FlipPhone  you were Referrin'To  on VZW?
>
>Would have Written OffList, but Thought Others on  the MailingList  
>would Also like to Know
>
>Blessin's
>At 11:04 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
> >Ann, I actually happen to have a flip phone that works on Verizon as 
> >that is my carrier.  The only thing your client might need to find 
> >out is if Verizon still supportsthe slower service.
> >  It does have more accessibilities than some of the flip phones I 
> >have had.  For instance, it will read text messages and if u happen  
> >to catch the message when it comes in, you can find out who it is  from.
> >Let me know off list if u r interested and we can talk  more.  Email 
> >me at kheve...@earthlink.net and put flip phone in the subject.
> >-Original Message-
> >From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >Behalf Of Ann Byrne
> >Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 12:21 PM
> >To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone
> >
> >But it doesn't work with Verizon, correct?
> >At 10:18 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
> > >I use the Blind Shell Classic, and I definitely recommend it over 
> > >an iPhone. It doesn't do as much, and you can't add apps to it, but 
> > >it works well for what it is.
> > >Sending a virtual hug from Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com 
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> > >Of Ann Byrne
> > >Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 9:14 AM
> > >To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > >Subject: Easy alternatives to iPhone
> > >
> > >My totally non-techy student needs to replace her phone.  An iPhone 
> > >would be really difficult for her.  Is anyone using a blind shell, 
> > >or another accessible easy-to-use smart phone that you could recommend?
> > >When I enquired previously, someone suggested another phone; but my 
> > >email crashed and I lost the recommendation.
> > >
> > >Thanks for any suggestions,
> > >
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RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone

[kitty hevener]

I believe it is the revere 2.  Wanna buy mine?  lol

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone

Hey there,Miss Kitty

Can you (please) Share with TheList MailingList TheName  of that  FlipPhone  
you were Referrin'To  on VZW?

Would have Written OffList, but Thought Others on  the MailingList  would Also 
like to Know

Blessin's
At 11:04 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
>Ann, I actually happen to have a flip phone that works on Verizon as 
>that is my carrier.  The only thing your client might need to find out 
>is if Verizon still supportsthe slower service.
>  It does have more accessibilities than some of the flip phones I  
>have had.  For instance, it will read text messages and if u happen  to 
>catch the message when it comes in, you can find out who it is  from.  
>Let me know off list if u r interested and we can talk  more.  Email me 
>at kheve...@earthlink.net and put flip phone in the subject.
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Ann Byrne
>Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 12:21 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone
>
>But it doesn't work with Verizon, correct?
>At 10:18 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
> >I use the Blind Shell Classic, and I definitely recommend it over an 
> >iPhone. It doesn't do as much, and you can't add apps to it, but it 
> >works well for what it is.
> >Sending a virtual hug from Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> >Of Ann Byrne
> >Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 9:14 AM
> >To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >Subject: Easy alternatives to iPhone
> >
> >My totally non-techy student needs to replace her phone.  An iPhone 
> >would be really difficult for her.  Is anyone using a blind shell, or 
> >another accessible easy-to-use smart phone that you could recommend?
> >When I enquired previously, someone suggested another phone; but my 
> >email crashed and I lost the recommendation.
> >
> >Thanks for any suggestions,
> >
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RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone

[kitty hevener]

Ann, I actually happen to have a flip phone that works on Verizon as that is my 
carrier.  The only thing your client might need to find out is if Verizon still 
supportsthe slower service.  
 It does have more accessibilities than some of the flip phones I have had.  
For instance, it will read text messages and if u happen to catch the message 
when it comes in, you can find out who it is from.  Let me know off list if u r 
interested and we can talk more.  Email me at
kheve...@earthlink.net and put flip phone in the subject.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 12:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Easy alternatives to iPhone

But it doesn't work with Verizon, correct?
At 10:18 AM 6/8/2020, you wrote:
>I use the Blind Shell Classic, and I definitely recommend it over an 
>iPhone. It doesn't do as much, and you can't add apps to it, but it 
>works well for what it is.
>Sending a virtual hug from Nancy Lynn
>seabreeze@gmail.com
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>Ann Byrne
>Sent: Monday, June 08, 2020 9:14 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Easy alternatives to iPhone
>
>My totally non-techy student needs to replace her phone.  An iPhone 
>would be really difficult for her.  Is anyone using a blind shell, or 
>another accessible easy-to-use smart phone that you could recommend?  
>When I enquired previously, someone suggested another phone; but my 
>email crashed and I lost the recommendation.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions,
>
>Ann
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RE: A couple of SE questions

[kitty hevener]

I had a similar situation last year.  None of my keys would work.  Found that 
doing a reset solved the issue.  I have no idea why it happened.  Good luck.  

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From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 12:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A couple of SE questions

Hello all,


On all of my other iPhones pressing the power and home buttons would reboot the 
phone.  With this new SE it just takes a screen shot.  Is there a different 
command to reboot other than to restart the phone?


Also, Just this morning I asked SIRI to call my work voice mail.  She dialed 
and put in the code, as normal and I had messages but the key pad was not on 
the screen.  I went to the bottom of the screen and chose “phone” and the key 
pad showed up but none of the keys were active.  I’ve never had this happen 
before.  Can someone please tell me what the problem is?

Thank you,

Kim

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RE: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY available soon!

[kitty hevener]

Curtis, thank you for taking on such a huge project.  

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Curtis Delzer
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 2:02 PM
To: Blind_technical discussion list ; BlindAds 
; 'Richard Claridge' via VIPhone 
Subject: Michael Feir's book, Personal Power, The iOS Edition final DAISY 
available soon!

I have taken on the project of making Michael's book available with DAISY 
markings so you can listen via your stream, or even your NLS player where you 
can navigate to hundreds of headings. If you put one of the text formats into 
the stream, for example, the only access to levels you have are screens and 
paragraphs for serious navigation points. The one I am creating will give you 
access to hundreds of locations which make logical sense in a 1300 page work. 
The voice I'll initially use is TextWare James, initially, but there will be at 
least 3 versions created with different voices, and I want some input on which 
is your favorite voice. Remember this is a work which starts from nothing, 
meaning that the blind user is taken from a state of unawareness to a complete 
understanding of how IOS and the iPhone work, as far as anyone would want to go 
because after you've read this book, any question you have is a matter of 
re-reading that section again, truly.
All that can happen is a further development of the IOS and features which 
could be added, but you will be not only ready for them, you'll be anxious to 
put into practice what you know with complete assurance.
I have also taken the liberty of spelling words which are either author's names 
or unusual names of apps he recommends and/or uses, have describe what the 
heading levels are used primarily for, and recording it at a good enough level 
to avoid artifacts because I am not concerned about bandwidth. When the book is 
done, I'll make it available in either 3gp format, suitable for NLS and Victor 
Stream playing and the smallest footprint in space on your storage device, or 
48K *.mp3s which will be a good compromise for those who absolutely must use 
*.,mp3 files with the DAISY markup included.
I shall announce when I am done, and where to get it.
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RE: GPS Apps for hiking?

[kitty hevener]

Have you tried nearby explorer?  You can now download it free from either apple 
or google play.  I am not a hiker, but I find that it does give a fair amount 
of info.  

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Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?

Hi foks,

Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.

What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?

Thank you,

Eric Caron 

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RE: RE: the new iPhone SE 2020

[kitty hevener]

Thanks, now I get it.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 3:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: the new iPhone SE 2020

 

The haptic is a button shape cut in to the screen surface itself and vibrates 
when you press it or touch it for reasons you need to.

 

No actual moving parts as such.

 

The older button is mechanical and you press it down and feel it press down in 
to the phones body,

 

A separate button form the screen

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2020 4:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: RE: the new iPhone SE 2020

 

Alan, I think you just answered the question I asked Richard.  This leads me to 
another question.  What is the difference between the haptic and regular 
button?  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: RE: the new iPhone SE 2020

 

Gera,

 

Apple no longer produces any devices with mechanical home buttons. The SE 2020 
will have the same haptic electronic home button as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: RE: the new iPhone SE 2020

 

Also is the Home Button mechanical like on the SE, 6S etc., or like on the 7 
and 8? Thanks for all your experiences! I’d like for my next phone to be the 
SE2020! But here in Mexico they’re selling it for usd$443, whereas the 8 with 
myplan, they’re wanting usd$354, when it should be the other way around! Thanks 
again for your experiences!

 


  Enviado desde Correo 
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  para Windows 10

 

De: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> 
Enviado: lunes, 27 de abril de 2020 08:50 a. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Asunto: RE: the new iPhone SE 2020

 

I will answer in context where I can.

So if so how is the audio on it and how long does the battery last so far?

The audio is excellent.  I used it on and off all day Saturday partly doing 
final setup etc. and I did not need to charge it until that night.

The same on Sunday and I spent several hours reading with Voice Dream Reader; 
but of course the phone was locked during the reading so very little battery 
used.

But I'd say I used it for over 6 hours actively and plugged it in at almost 10 
PM when it was at 20%.

 

I mean it is know iPhone 11 or 11 pro but is it just as fast as those phones?

Yes, it has the exact same chip, the A13.

 

Also does this have stereo speakers as well?

Yes, very nice sounding, clear, stereo.  The left track is at  the home button 
end.  I tested last evening with Norwegian Wood by the Beatles which starts 
with only music in the right track.  Holding it landscaped, the stereo was very 
clear.  I've decided I like the audio quality better than on the 8 plus; but 
sound is extremely subjective so take that with a grain of salt.

 

And is the battery in this phone as big as the one in the 10 XR or does it last 
longer then the one in the 10 XR?

I have no idea since I never had an XR.  You could look up the specs on each 
and see.

 

And I think that this new phone has A home button as well so does it use touch 
ID  like the 7 and the sixes used to and even the eights?

Yes, and I find the touch ID much faster, but that could be the difference in 
the A13 chip.

 

Also if you use the camera for things like reading bard codes with seeing AI or 
for voice dream scanner how well does it work for that as well?

It works great!

 

Richard

 

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RE: RE: the new iPhone SE 2020

[kitty hevener]

Alan, I think you just answered the question I asked Richard.  This leads me to 
another question.  What is the difference between the haptic and regular 
button?  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: the new iPhone SE 2020

 

Gera,

 

Apple no longer produces any devices with mechanical home buttons. The SE 2020 
will have the same haptic electronic home button as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: RE: the new iPhone SE 2020

 

Also is the Home Button mechanical like on the SE, 6S etc., or like on the 7 
and 8? Thanks for all your experiences! I’d like for my next phone to be the 
SE2020! But here in Mexico they’re selling it for usd$443, whereas the 8 with 
myplan, they’re wanting usd$354, when it should be the other way around! Thanks 
again for your experiences!

 


  Enviado desde Correo 
  para Windows 10

 

De: Richard Turner  
Enviado: lunes, 27 de abril de 2020 08:50 a. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Asunto: RE: the new iPhone SE 2020

 

I will answer in context where I can.

So if so how is the audio on it and how long does the battery last so far?

The audio is excellent.  I used it on and off all day Saturday partly doing 
final setup etc. and I did not need to charge it until that night.

The same on Sunday and I spent several hours reading with Voice Dream Reader; 
but of course the phone was locked during the reading so very little battery 
used.

But I'd say I used it for over 6 hours actively and plugged it in at almost 10 
PM when it was at 20%.

 

I mean it is know iPhone 11 or 11 pro but is it just as fast as those phones?

Yes, it has the exact same chip, the A13.

 

Also does this have stereo speakers as well?

Yes, very nice sounding, clear, stereo.  The left track is at  the home button 
end.  I tested last evening with Norwegian Wood by the Beatles which starts 
with only music in the right track.  Holding it landscaped, the stereo was very 
clear.  I've decided I like the audio quality better than on the 8 plus; but 
sound is extremely subjective so take that with a grain of salt.

 

And is the battery in this phone as big as the one in the 10 XR or does it last 
longer then the one in the 10 XR?

I have no idea since I never had an XR.  You could look up the specs on each 
and see.

 

And I think that this new phone has A home button as well so does it use touch 
ID  like the 7 and the sixes used to and even the eights?

Yes, and I find the touch ID much faster, but that could be the difference in 
the A13 chip.

 

Also if you use the camera for things like reading bard codes with seeing AI or 
for voice dream scanner how well does it work for that as well?

It works great!

 

Richard

 

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RE: the new iPhone SE 2020

[kitty hevener]

Richard, am confused.  Thought the new apple had the button on it just like the 
iphone 8.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the new iPhone SE 2020

 

I think this was answered, but no, mechanical home buttons are gone forever. 

And yes, the videos can record in stereo.

 

Richard

Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today.

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020





On Apr 27, 2020, at 8:13 AM, Gerardo Corripio mailto:gera1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Also is the Home Button mechanical like on the SE, 6S etc., or like on the 7 
and 8? Thanks for all your experiences! I’d like for my next phone to be the 
SE2020! But here in Mexico they’re selling it for usd$443, whereas the 8 with 
myplan, they’re wanting usd$354, when it should be the other way around! Thanks 
again for your experiences!

 


  Enviado desde Correo 

  para Windows 10

 

De: Richard Turner  
Enviado: lunes, 27 de abril de 2020 08:50 a. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Asunto: RE: the new iPhone SE 2020

 

I will answer in context where I can.

So if so how is the audio on it and how long does the battery last so far?

The audio is excellent.  I used it on and off all day Saturday partly doing 
final setup etc. and I did not need to charge it until that night.

The same on Sunday and I spent several hours reading with Voice Dream Reader; 
but of course the phone was locked during the reading so very little battery 
used.

But I'd say I used it for over 6 hours actively and plugged it in at almost 10 
PM when it was at 20%.

 

I mean it is know iPhone 11 or 11 pro but is it just as fast as those phones?

Yes, it has the exact same chip, the A13.

 

Also does this have stereo speakers as well?

Yes, very nice sounding, clear, stereo.  The left track is at  the home button 
end.  I tested last evening with Norwegian Wood by the Beatles which starts 
with only music in the right track.  Holding it landscaped, the stereo was very 
clear.  I've decided I like the audio quality better than on the 8 plus; but 
sound is extremely subjective so take that with a grain of salt.

 

And is the battery in this phone as big as the one in the 10 XR or does it last 
longer then the one in the 10 XR?

I have no idea since I never had an XR.  You could look up the specs on each 
and see.

 

And I think that this new phone has A home button as well so does it use touch 
ID  like the 7 and the sixes used to and even the eights?

Yes, and I find the touch ID much faster, but that could be the difference in 
the A13 chip.

 

Also if you use the camera for things like reading bard codes with seeing AI or 
for voice dream scanner how well does it work for that as well?

It works great!

 

Richard

 

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RE: OCR PDFS on Mac or iphone

[kitty hevener]

Richard, what is the "share sheet"?

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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OCR PDFS on Mac or iphone

Voice Dream Scanner, $5.99 for the iPhone version.
The only limitation, which the developer is working on, is that columns do not 
scan well.
But, you will not find a better OCR app.
It is fast, accurate, and you can save as accessible PDF, so the visual 
appearance is there, but the text is also accessible.
And if you also have Voice Dream Reader, it makes extracting text from an image 
PDF really slick, but even without being a Voice Dream Reader user, Scanner 
will show up in the share sheet, so it can be used to extract text from an 
image PDF.
For quick and dirty scans without saving, Seeing AI is good.
O, and Voice Dream Scanner can save multiple pages into one document.




Richard

Sent from the iPhone SE 2020

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
> Just upgraded to Catalina and I’ve lost my accessible Fine Reader software. 
> Can you recommend something for either the Mac or iphone that will extract 
> text to plain text or MS Word that is voice over friendly and doesn’t cost 
> the earth.
> 
> I will be doing it a lot due to needing it for my degree.
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> Ian
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RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

[kitty hevener]

Yeah, kinda funny smile!!  Hmm, maybe apple needs to join our meetings.  Smile!!

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Hello Kitty,

It was nice talking to you.

I was amazed at how many people prefer the smaller form factor devices.  Wow!  
I was truly in the minority, today, (big smile).

Mark

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kitty hevener
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I too enjoyed the impromptu meeting.  And, so nice to know I am not the only 
one who wants the small iphones.  Smile!!

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Mark thank you so much for having this idea and for putting it into action.  
Definitely added a surprise pleasure to my Saturday afternoon.

Look forward to chatting with everyone again soon!  Thank you so much for being 
willing to buy the subscription!
Hope everyone enjoys a good evening/weekend.
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RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

[kitty hevener]

Would still want touch id as an option.  Don't think the face id thing would 
work so well with a mask. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

If Apple ever decided to make a 4.7 inch phone with an OLED screen and 
virtually no screen bezel as well as Face Id so that the home button wouldn't 
have to take up space at the bottom of the screen they could easily make such a 
phone in the size of an old 5S or the original SE. Of course whether this is 
going to happen is anybody's guess, don't think it is anything which we'll see 
in the next couple of years, but who knows what they'll do in 3 or 4 years.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Definitely, I don't think there'll ever be a phone that small again. I'm 
guessing that the new ones have 24 icons on the original home page, not 20 like 
the original SE phones. 

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Dave
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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You may find, any new phones after the new SE, will be bigger.
 
Dave.
 
 
From: kitty hevener <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
 

Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the phone I 
currently have.  Since I don’t like the larger phones, I will definitely be 
sticking with what I have as long as I can.  You might recall that I purchased 
an se with more space not that long ago.  It was a mess getting the thing to 
work, but persistence, help from folks on this list, apple accessability desk, 
and geniuses at the apple bar, I succeeded.   

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is the exact 
same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a 4.7 inch screen.

The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had for the 
most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released in the fall of 
2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the old iPhone 5 and 5S from 2012 
and 2013.

As for iOS 14, I think it’s entirely possible that the iPhone 6S, 6S Plus and 
the original SE still get this year’s iOS release. After all, the iPhone 5S 
which was released in 2013 with iOS 7 preinstalled got all the upgrades 
including iOS 12 in 2018, only last fall did it not get iOS 13 any more. This 
means after the OS it shipped with it got 5 more iOS updartes, all the way from 
2013 to 2018 or 6 years.

The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with iOS 9 
preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, that is one 
version less than the 5S.

My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely not upgrade to 
this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 Gb to 3 Gb of RAM and from 
the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you won’t notice that much of a 
difference and anybody who argues that on this new phone apps open faster, the 
app switcher come sup faster and so on should ask themselves how many seconds a 
day they’ll save and whether that is really worth it. Anybody who still has an 
iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably upgrade, but I want to see what Apple 
comes up with this fall. I really want a phone with Face Id and 5G support, but 
unless there are some other compelling aspects I will probably wait until the 
fall of 2021.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

No one Knows ForSure if Apple's iPhoneSE 1stGeneration will Be Supported  by 
its Forthcomin' iOS14 Personally, I don't Think it will Be Supported

But with All of the Perceived Bugs & Flaws AssociatedWith Apple's iOS13, Apple 
may Support   the 1stGeneration SE
At 01:49 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:

Richrd, thanks.   Wonder how long will be able to use my current se. 
 I hope at least another year or two.  
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
To: 

RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

[kitty hevener]

I too enjoyed the impromptu meeting.  And, so nice to know I am not the only 
one who wants the small iphones.  Smile!!

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Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:09 PM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Re: It was nice getting to know some of you

Mark thank you so much for having this idea and for putting it into action.  
Definitely added a surprise pleasure to my Saturday afternoon.

Look forward to chatting with everyone again soon!  Thank you so much for being 
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Hope everyone enjoys a good evening/weekend.
Stay safe and well,
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RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

[kitty hevener]

Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the phone I 
currently have.  Since I don’t like the larger phones, I will definitely be 
sticking with what I have as long as I can.  You might recall that I purchased 
an se with more space not that long ago.  It was a mess getting the thing to 
work, but persistence, help from folks on this list, apple accessability desk, 
and geniuses at the apple bar, I succeeded.   

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is the exact 
same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a 4.7 inch screen.

The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had for the 
most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released in the fall of 
2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the old iPhone 5 and 5S from 2012 
and 2013.

As for iOS 14, I think it’s entirely possible that the iPhone 6S, 6S Plus and 
the original SE still get this year’s iOS release. After all, the iPhone 5S 
which was released in 2013 with iOS 7 preinstalled got all the upgrades 
including iOS 12 in 2018, only last fall did it not get iOS 13 any more. This 
means after the OS it shipped with it got 5 more iOS updartes, all the way from 
2013 to 2018 or 6 years.

The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with iOS 9 
preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, that is one 
version less than the 5S.

My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely not upgrade to 
this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 Gb to 3 Gb of RAM and from 
the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you won’t notice that much of a 
difference and anybody who argues that on this new phone apps open faster, the 
app switcher come sup faster and so on should ask themselves how many seconds a 
day they’ll save and whether that is really worth it. Anybody who still has an 
iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably upgrade, but I want to see what Apple 
comes up with this fall. I really want a phone with Face Id and 5G support, but 
unless there are some other compelling aspects I will probably wait until the 
fall of 2021.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

No one Knows ForSure if Apple's iPhoneSE 1stGeneration will Be Supported  by 
its Forthcomin' iOS14
Personally, I don't Think it will Be Supported

But with All of the Perceived Bugs & Flaws AssociatedWith Apple's iOS13, Apple 
may Support   the 1stGeneration SE
At 01:49 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:

Richrd, thanks.   Wonder how long will be able to use my current se.  I hope 
at least another year or two.  
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  [ 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
 
It is not the same size as the old one. 
It is more the size of the standard iPhone 8.
So current cases will not fit it.
 
The old SE is worth $30 in trade.
I plan to use my old one as a music and book player as a WiFi only device.
 
 
(Sent from my iPhone SE)
C

 

On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>  > wrote:

 

For clarification, is the new SE the same size as the old one?  Has anyone 
tried trading in the old se for the new one?  Any luck?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  [ 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Fazil

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

Is SE 2 better than iPhone8 in any ways?

Thanks!

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  > On Behalf Of 
jkt4...@gmail.com <mailto:jkt4...@gmail.com> 

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:40 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

Good morning,

 

With my sighted wife’s help I ordered a new SE, black, 128 Gb, with Apple 
Care  and arranged to trade in my old iphone 8. We were online right at 7 AM 
CDT. It took us 13 minutes from start to finish which I thought was pretty 
good. I think we had to restart the process twice. It is supposed  to be 
delivered next Friday, April 24. I had to pay the ful

RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

[kitty hevener]

Richrd, thanks.   Wonder how long will be able to use my current se.  I hope at 
least another year or two.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

It is not the same size as the old one. 

It is more the size of the standard iPhone 8.

So current cases will not fit it.

 

The old SE is worth $30 in trade.

I plan to use my old one as a music and book player as a WiFi only device.

 

 

(Sent from my iPhone SE)

C

 





On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

For clarification, is the new SE the same size as the old one?  Has anyone 
tried trading in the old se for the new one?  Any luck?

 

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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

Is SE 2 better than iPhone8 in any ways?

Thanks!

 

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Subject: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

Good morning,

 

With my sighted wife’s help I ordered a new SE, black, 128 Gb, with Apple Care  
and arranged to trade in my old iphone 8. We were online right at 7 AM CDT. It 
took us 13 minutes from start to finish which I thought was pretty good. I 
think we had to restart the process twice. It is supposed  to be delivered next 
Friday, April 24. I had to pay the full price plus tax and they ship me a 
package with labels so I can send them the iphone 8. When they get the 8 they 
will credit my account $170.00. I didn’t want to try to sell the old one 
locally.

 

That’s my story, hope you’re all doing well in these strange times.

Joe 

 

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RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

[kitty hevener]

Thanks, I was kinda confused because I thought the new se was supposed to be 
the size of the iphone 8.  But also heard folks say it’s 4.7 inch is the same 
size as the old se.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

Hey there, MissKitty

UnFortunately, No,  TheNew Apple iPhoneSE is DefinitelyNot TheSameSize as the 
1stGeneration Apple iPhoneSE, as it's TheSameSize as  Apple's Now Retired, 
iPHone8 iPhone8, which is 4.7Inches.
The GoodNews is  it Retains  Apple's HomeButton, but its Not TheSameSize as the 
HomeButton as  on the 1stGeneration iPhoneSE, as  the HomeButton is  Physical 
Yet Tactile & MoreHaptic, as Apple has managed to Mimick TheFeel of AnActual 
button when Press'd
This NEW SE comes EquippedWith Apple's Latest Processin;Chip, Apple's 
A13Bionic, which is  Present in All of Apple's iPhone11 Series of MobilePhones 
that was Released LastYear,September2019

Hope This Answers YourQuestions Pertainin'To Apple's 2ndGeneration iPhoneSE
At 12:52 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:



For clarification, is the new SE the same size as the old one?  Has anyone 
tried trading in the old se for the new one? Â Any luck?
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   [ 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Fazil
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
 
Is SE 2 better than iPhone8 in any ways?
Thanks!
 
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jkt4...@gmail.com  
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Ordered a new SE this morning
 
Good morning,
 
With my sighted wife’s help I ordered a new SE, black, 128 Gb, with Apple 
Care  and arranged to trade in my old iphone 8. We were online right at 7 AM 
CDT. It took us 13 minutes from start to finish which I thought was pretty 
good. I think we had to restart the process twice. It is supposed  to be 
delivered next Friday, April 24. I had to pay the full price plus tax and they 
ship me a package with labels so I can send them the iphone 8. When they get 
the 8 they will credit my account $170.00. I didn’t want to try to sell the 
old one locally.
 
That’s my story, hope you’re all doing well in these strange times.
Joe 
 
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RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

[kitty hevener]

For clarification, is the new SE the same size as the old one?  Has anyone 
tried trading in the old se for the new one?  Any luck?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fazil
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

Is SE 2 better than iPhone8 in any ways?

Thanks!

 

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jkt4...@gmail.com  
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

Good morning,

 

With my sighted wife’s help I ordered a new SE, black, 128 Gb, with Apple Care  
and arranged to trade in my old iphone 8. We were online right at 7 AM CDT. It 
took us 13 minutes from start to finish which I thought was pretty good. I 
think we had to restart the process twice. It is supposed  to be delivered next 
Friday, April 24. I had to pay the full price plus tax and they ship me a 
package with labels so I can send them the iphone 8. When they get the 8 they 
will credit my account $170.00. I didn’t want to try to sell the old one 
locally.

 

That’s my story, hope you’re all doing well in these strange times.

Joe 

 

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RE: Is Dark sky weather app accessible with VO

[kitty hevener]

I got it last year and that's what I paid for it.  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne West
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2020 2:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I had Dark Sky on my phone but deleted it because it is not very voice over 
friendly. I agree, Weather Gods is the best weather app I have tried. It's very 
voice over friendly and the developers get it! They fix bugs often and the 
updates are always very easy to navigate. I paid $4.99 for the app but I can't 
remember when I got it.

Anne


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Merritt
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 9:39
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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For those looking for a Dark Sky replacement, might I suggest Weather Gods. I 
don't get to the minute rain forecasts on Weather Gods, but everything else is 
much better and more concise, IMO, than Dark Sky. I believe Weather Gods is 
$4.99 in the US app store, but could be wrong.
I haven't regretted the purchase.

Be well,
Wayne

On 4/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Maybe it will get better now that Apple bought Dark Sky although I 
> assume that is more in order to use them as the underlying source for 
> their weather app.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 1:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> If you check applevis.com I believe there are issues.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr.
> Ed
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> Hi,
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> would be appreciated. Also Apple bought this app.
> Mr. Ed
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Paula, the original poster of message, wants group members to know that she
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RE: meeting next Monday

[kitty hevener]

Hey Anne, I think Paula had a glitch in her email when she sent out the email.  
It was supposed to go to a I device user group here in Cincinnati.  But, if u r 
in town, u know like coming to see me, or something like that, u r more than 
welcome to join us.  Heck, I’ll even spring for your pizza and drink.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anne West
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: meeting next Monday

 

Um, meeting? Is it a virtual meeting or at someone’s home? If it’s a virtual 
meeting, how is it accessed?

 

Anne West

k1stm...@gmail.com <mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com> 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 21:43
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: meeting next Monday

 

Hi Paula, I am planning to be there.  I would like coke 0.  Hey, I finally got 
the new Iphone se unlocked and working.  What a nightmare and a story with 
takeaway points for anyone who take the journey I took.  

 

Gosh, hope Paul gets better soon.  

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2020 9:08 PM
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Subject: meeting next Monday

 

Hi all.  Our regular meeting is scheduled for this coming Monday.   Sorry for 
the late notice.  Things have been a little crazy around here.  I’ve just 
brought home a new dog and Paul was admitted to Mercy West hospital today.  
He’s pretty sick right now and we don’t know exactly what’s going on.  

 

We’ll have a round table discussion perhaps talking about our favorite or most 
useful apps.  

Pizza is $5 and if you want to purchase a drink from Carol and Mike it’s 50 
cents.  Please let me know in advance what kind of drink you’d like.  There is 
coke, diet coke and coke zero.

Please let me know if you plan to come so I have an accurate count.

God bless!

Paula, Charlie and Garçon

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RE: Question About Transferring From One iPhone Carrier to Another

[kitty hevener]

Ann, thanks.  

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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 9:50 PM
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Kitty, the Verizon accessibility number is 888-262-1999. They are open weekdays 
during normal business hours.

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hevener
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Joshua what is that number?  

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I'm certainly not leaving Verizon.  I only pay $33 per month for my iPhone plan 
and that's a pretty good deal in my opinion.  Verizon also has a number for 
people with disabilities.  There customer service is fantastic.

On 3/4/20, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> Why in the world would you want to leave Verizon?
> Verizon has the best network.
> I found this to be true time and time again.
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 11!! Pro!
>
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Shirley Baker 
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>> My husband and I bought our iPhones and iPads from Verizon Wireless 
>> a few years ago and are thinking about changing to TMobile. My 
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>> watch. Is there anything I need to do regarding that before trading 
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>> and iPad?
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RE: Question About Transferring From One iPhone Carrier to Another

[kitty hevener]

Alan, I did the same thing when I finally got my recently purchased used SE 
working.  Also learned that if u pay before your autopay due date, you can save 
another $5.00.  This is just a one time promo.  But, as far as I know the 
"double data" promo with autopay sill work every month till you change plans or 
something like that.  

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Shirley,

I'd strongly suggest you talk to someone at Verizon at 888-294-6804 to see if 
you're getting the best plan at the best price before switching to another 
carrier. I have no idea what you've been getting for $245 a month but I'm 
assuming that doesn't include any phone purchase obligations or I expect you'd 
be unable to switch carriers. I was recently paying $51 a month after tax and 
fees for a postpaid plan with 1GB of data with Verizon. I did not have autopay 
set up for that plan. When I asked about a Verizon prepaid plan a week ago this 
past Saturday, I was told they currently had a promotion to double your data 
for a new account. I had to go in and set up a new Verizon online account with 
a different user ID but you'll have to do that anyway if you change carriers. I 
ended up with a 6GB of data prepaid plan for $43 a month after tax and I also 
selected autopay to charge my monthly amount to my credit card which saves me 
an extra $5 a month. I'd see if you can get a better deal before changing 
carriers.

Alan Lemly

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Because our bill has been $245 and I can't keep paying that and T Mobile 
doesn't charge that much.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> ?Why in the world would you want to leave Verizon?
> Verizon has the best network.
> I found this to be true time and time again.
> Thanks in advance
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 11!! Pro!
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
>> 
>> ?My husband and I bought our iPhones and iPads from Verizon Wireless  a few 
>> years ago and are thinking about changing to TMobile. My question is that I 
>> have a passcode on both my phone, iPad and apple watch. Is there anything I 
>> need to do regarding that before trading my phone with TMobile and can I use 
>> the same passcode on my new phone, watch and iPad?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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