Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News
Artificially intelligent voices offer inflection, pacing and emphasis that make them sound eerily human. This will dramatically increase the amount of material available for the blind. As mentioned, these voices are many levels better than the volunteer readers at Learning Ally. I am waiting for the day when celebrated disc jockies and Oscar and Emmy winning and nominated actors and actresses are voice printed and used in audio books and magazines. I would love to hear Hugh Jackman, Robert deNiro, Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman, Leonardo DiCaprio, tom Hanks, Kevin costner, or Maryl Streep as an AI audio book reader. Kelly On 3/21/23, Esther Levegnale wrote: > hi, everyone, I know I did say I didn't like artificial speech, but perhaps > I will try it now. Probably over the years it has gotten much better. Take > care. Esther > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > >> On Mar 20, 2023, at 6:20 PM, Joshua Hendrickson >> wrote: >> >> I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and >> refuse to read them. I also use bookshare. They have books that I >> couldn't get anywhere else. I can either listen to different TTS >> voices read them to me in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and >> can read the books in braille. It is my choice, and a great one to >> have. TTS voices are getting better and better and the more books we >> have access to, the better. >> >>> On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald wrote: >>> It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be >>> available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for >>> years >>> and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as voice >>> dream, >>> are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At least I don’t. I >>> remember when I was in college my father bought me the Kurzweil reading >>> machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was just so happy to be able >>> to >>> go out and buy any print book that I came to really like The Voice. It >>> is >>> what it is. It just means that we will have more freedom of choice and >>> if >>> people don’t like these books, they don’t have to use them. >>> >>> >>> Kerry >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing >>>> new >>>> technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is extremely time >>>> consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are not available in >>>> any >>>> other source and I use the speech on my phone to listen to them. When I >>>> really get into a book I move past the sound of the voice and just >>>> absorb >>>> the Contant. >>>> >>>> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it >>>> >>>> JODY >>>> >>>> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻 >>>> >>>> >>>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS >>>> Erik Weihenmayer >>>> >>>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The article in this email tells you how to find these type of >>>>> audiobooks >>>>> using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Barbara Stahl >>>>>> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced >>>>>> by >>>>>> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >>>>>> >>>>>> I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is >>>>>> surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be >>>>>> better >>>>>> than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to >>>>>> try >>>>>> to replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long >>>>>>>
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hi, everyone, I know I did say I didn't like artificial speech, but perhaps I will try it now. Probably over the years it has gotten much better. Take care. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > On Mar 20, 2023, at 6:20 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote: > > I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and > refuse to read them. I also use bookshare. They have books that I > couldn't get anywhere else. I can either listen to different TTS > voices read them to me in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and > can read the books in braille. It is my choice, and a great one to > have. TTS voices are getting better and better and the more books we > have access to, the better. > >> On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald wrote: >> It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be >> available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for years >> and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as voice dream, >> are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At least I don’t. I >> remember when I was in college my father bought me the Kurzweil reading >> machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was just so happy to be able to >> go out and buy any print book that I came to really like The Voice. It is >> what it is. It just means that we will have more freedom of choice and if >> people don’t like these books, they don’t have to use them. >> >> >> Kerry >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi >>> wrote: >>> >>> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing new >>> technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is extremely time >>> consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are not available in any >>> other source and I use the speech on my phone to listen to them. When I >>> really get into a book I move past the sound of the voice and just absorb >>> the Contant. >>> >>> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it >>> >>> JODY >>> >>> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻 >>> >>> >>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com >>> >>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS >>> Erik Weihenmayer >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> The article in this email tells you how to find these type of audiobooks >>>> using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it >>>> >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Barbara Stahl >>>>> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by >>>>> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >>>>> >>>>> I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is >>>>> surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better >>>>> than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try >>>>> to replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I completely agree. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dennis Long >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the >>>>>>> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by >>>>>>> eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated >>>>>>> book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll >>>>>>> continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years >>>>>>> to come. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alan Lemly >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --
Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News
I prefer a human voice over synthetic ones as well. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > On Mar 21, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > As for ,me I never understand why one would want to listen to a novel using > a synthetic voice instead of enjoying the narration of a human reader. There > is also a big difference between pretty much all the readers who do this > professionally and some public domain books where I have heard readers who > actually pause to figure out some words or mispronounce words altogether. > Yes, even with professional readers you get some where you just may not like > the voice or how they use their voice to portrait different characters in the > book, but for the most part when I listen to Audible books which often are > professionally narrated by whatever publisher is releasing the book, I find > it quite rare that a reader is not good. But that is why we are different, > that is why some like to use Alex or Ava as their TTS on the iPhone which I > personally can't stand and why others, me included, still use Eloquence on > the computer. For me my computer is my tool, it's what I use to do my job and > run my business so I need it to be efficient and nothing is more efficient > than Eloquence or synthetic voices like it. The more human sounding a voice > is the worse it sounds when you speed it up. I must say, however, that a > couple of these AI narrated books where I listened to samples are very close > to a human reader and I could probably imagine myself listening to a book > that way. But I definitely will not listen to a book using any of the high > quality Jaws voices let alone Eloquence. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joshua > Hendrickson > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 3:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI > Robot, Mac Daily News > > I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and refuse > to read them. I also use bookshare. They have books that I couldn't get > anywhere else. I can either listen to different TTS voices read them to me > in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and can read the books in braille. > It is my choice, and a great one to have. TTS voices are getting better and > better and the more books we have access to, the better. > >> On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald wrote: >> It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be >> available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for >> years and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as >> voice dream, are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At >> least I don’t. I remember when I was in college my father bought me >> the Kurzweil reading machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was >> just so happy to be able to go out and buy any print book that I came >> to really like The Voice. It is what it is. It just means that we will >> have more freedom of choice and if people don’t like these books, they don’t >> have to use them. >> >> >> Kerry >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing >>> new technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is >>> extremely time consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are >>> not available in any other source and I use the speech on my phone to >>> listen to them. When I really get into a book I move past the sound >>> of the voice and just absorb the Contant. >>> >>> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it >>> >>> JODY >>> >>> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻 >>> >>> >>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com >>> >>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS >>> Erik Weihenmayer >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> The article in this email tells you how to find these type of >>>> audiobooks using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it >>>> >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Barbara Stahl >>>>> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST >>>>> To: viphone@g
RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News
There are a variety of platforms with different voices for us to listen to books. Myself I am grateful that we have so many choices depending on our preference! Steve Cook Do you enjoy reading books? How about discussing books? Well we would like to invite you to the group for the discussion and recommendation of books for everyone! When recommending books, always include the title, author and the platform you found the book. To subscribe to this list, send a message to bookdiscussionandrecommendations+subscr...@googlegroups.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 1:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News I actually like eloquence. I've been using it on my computers for years. I even had E-speek as my iPhone voice over voice for a while because it could go so fast. Eloquence doesn't sound quite as good on the iPhone, as it does on my computer, but pretty close. I would have no problem having eloquence for reading a bookshare book to me. However, there are some great voices to choose from. There are even children voices from acapela. Although having one of those voices read a bookshare book to me I think would be a little weird. On 3/20/23, William James wrote: > I can deal with specific TTS voices reading to me. I like James in VDR. > However, I do not think I would like Microsoft Sam or Eloquence > reading to me a book I want to enjoy. You old timers will remember Microsoft > Sam. > LOL! > > Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > >> On Mar 20, 2023, at 6:20 PM, Joshua Hendrickson >> wrote: >> >> I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books >> and refuse to read them. I also use bookshare. They have books that >> I couldn't get anywhere else. I can either listen to different TTS >> voices read them to me in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and >> can read the books in braille. It is my choice, and a great one to >> have. TTS voices are getting better and better and the more books we >> have access to, the better. >> >>> On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald wrote: >>> It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will >>> be available for more people. I have read books with text to speech >>> for years and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such >>> as voice dream, are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. >>> At least I don’t. I remember when I was in college my father bought >>> me the Kurzweil reading machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I >>> was just so happy to be able to go out and buy any print book that I >>> came to really like The Voice. It is what it is. It just means that >>> we will have more freedom of choice and if people don’t like these >>> books, they don’t have to use them. >>> >>> >>> Kerry >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are >>>> introducing new technology for reading books. Having a human >>>> narrator is extremely time consuming! I listen to books from >>>> Bookshare which are not available in any other source and I use the >>>> speech on my phone to listen to them. When I really get into a book >>>> I move past the sound of the voice and just absorb the Contant. >>>> >>>> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it >>>> >>>> JODY >>>> >>>> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻 >>>> >>>> >>>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO >>>> BARRIERS Erik Weihenmayer >>>> >>>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The article in this email tells you how to find these type of >>>>> audiobooks using the Books app just scroll down the email to find >>>>> it >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Barbara Stahl >>>>>> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Sel
Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News
My feeling is that I’ll read a book and any media that is accessible to me. when I was growing up the only thing that was available was talking books and RFB which is now Learning Ally. That was it. Course you could always have somebody read it to you in person but that was a lot more difficult. I think we have a Goldmine of accessible information now and we shouldn’t take it for granted JODY To Boldly Go 🖖🏻 thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS Erik Weihenmayer > On Mar 21, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > As for ,me I never understand why one would want to listen to a novel using > a synthetic voice instead of enjoying the narration of a human reader. There > is also a big difference between pretty much all the readers who do this > professionally and some public domain books where I have heard readers who > actually pause to figure out some words or mispronounce words altogether. > Yes, even with professional readers you get some where you just may not like > the voice or how they use their voice to portrait different characters in the > book, but for the most part when I listen to Audible books which often are > professionally narrated by whatever publisher is releasing the book, I find > it quite rare that a reader is not good. But that is why we are different, > that is why some like to use Alex or Ava as their TTS on the iPhone which I > personally can't stand and why others, me included, still use Eloquence on > the computer. For me my computer is my tool, it's what I use to do my job and > run my business so I need it to be efficient and nothing is more efficient > than Eloquence or synthetic voices like it. The more human sounding a voice > is the worse it sounds when you speed it up. I must say, however, that a > couple of these AI narrated books where I listened to samples are very close > to a human reader and I could probably imagine myself listening to a book > that way. But I definitely will not listen to a book using any of the high > quality Jaws voices let alone Eloquence. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joshua > Hendrickson > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 3:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI > Robot, Mac Daily News > > I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and refuse > to read them. I also use bookshare. They have books that I couldn't get > anywhere else. I can either listen to different TTS voices read them to me > in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and can read the books in braille. > It is my choice, and a great one to have. TTS voices are getting better and > better and the more books we have access to, the better. > >> On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald wrote: >> It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be >> available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for >> years and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as >> voice dream, are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At >> least I don’t. I remember when I was in college my father bought me >> the Kurzweil reading machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was >> just so happy to be able to go out and buy any print book that I came >> to really like The Voice. It is what it is. It just means that we will >> have more freedom of choice and if people don’t like these books, they don’t >> have to use them. >> >> >> Kerry >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing >>> new technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is >>> extremely time consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are >>> not available in any other source and I use the speech on my phone to >>> listen to them. When I really get into a book I move past the sound >>> of the voice and just absorb the Contant. >>> >>> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it >>> >>> JODY >>> >>> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻 >>> >>> >>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com >>> >>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS >>> Erik Weihenmayer >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>
RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News
As for ,me I never understand why one would want to listen to a novel using a synthetic voice instead of enjoying the narration of a human reader. There is also a big difference between pretty much all the readers who do this professionally and some public domain books where I have heard readers who actually pause to figure out some words or mispronounce words altogether. Yes, even with professional readers you get some where you just may not like the voice or how they use their voice to portrait different characters in the book, but for the most part when I listen to Audible books which often are professionally narrated by whatever publisher is releasing the book, I find it quite rare that a reader is not good. But that is why we are different, that is why some like to use Alex or Ava as their TTS on the iPhone which I personally can't stand and why others, me included, still use Eloquence on the computer. For me my computer is my tool, it's what I use to do my job and run my business so I need it to be efficient and nothing is more efficient than Eloquence or synthetic voices like it. The more human sounding a voice is the worse it sounds when you speed it up. I must say, however, that a couple of these AI narrated books where I listened to samples are very close to a human reader and I could probably imagine myself listening to a book that way. But I definitely will not listen to a book using any of the high quality Jaws voices let alone Eloquence. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and refuse to read them. I also use bookshare. They have books that I couldn't get anywhere else. I can either listen to different TTS voices read them to me in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and can read the books in braille. It is my choice, and a great one to have. TTS voices are getting better and better and the more books we have access to, the better. On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald wrote: > It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be > available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for > years and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as > voice dream, are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At > least I don’t. I remember when I was in college my father bought me > the Kurzweil reading machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was > just so happy to be able to go out and buy any print book that I came > to really like The Voice. It is what it is. It just means that we will > have more freedom of choice and if people don’t like these books, they don’t > have to use them. > > > Kerry > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi >> >> wrote: >> >> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing >> new technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is >> extremely time consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are >> not available in any other source and I use the speech on my phone to >> listen to them. When I really get into a book I move past the sound >> of the voice and just absorb the Contant. >> >> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it >> >> JODY >> >> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻 >> >> >> thunderwalker...@gmail.com >> >> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS >> Erik Weihenmayer >> >>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The article in this email tells you how to find these type of >>> audiobooks using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Barbara Stahl >>>> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks >>>> Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >>>> >>>> I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is >>>> surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be >>>> better than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for >>>> companies to try to replace people with robots just for profet. Its >>>> disgusting. >>>> >>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: &
Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News
I actually like eloquence. I've been using it on my computers for years. I even had E-speek as my iPhone voice over voice for a while because it could go so fast. Eloquence doesn't sound quite as good on the iPhone, as it does on my computer, but pretty close. I would have no problem having eloquence for reading a bookshare book to me. However, there are some great voices to choose from. There are even children voices from acapela. Although having one of those voices read a bookshare book to me I think would be a little weird. On 3/20/23, William James wrote: > I can deal with specific TTS voices reading to me. I like James in VDR. > However, I do not think I would like Microsoft Sam or Eloquence reading to > me a book I want to enjoy. You old timers will remember Microsoft Sam. > LOL! > > Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > >> On Mar 20, 2023, at 6:20 PM, Joshua Hendrickson >> wrote: >> >> I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and >> refuse to read them. I also use bookshare. They have books that I >> couldn't get anywhere else. I can either listen to different TTS >> voices read them to me in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and >> can read the books in braille. It is my choice, and a great one to >> have. TTS voices are getting better and better and the more books we >> have access to, the better. >> >>> On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald wrote: >>> It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be >>> available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for >>> years >>> and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as voice >>> dream, >>> are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At least I don’t. I >>> remember when I was in college my father bought me the Kurzweil reading >>> machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was just so happy to be able >>> to >>> go out and buy any print book that I came to really like The Voice. It >>> is >>> what it is. It just means that we will have more freedom of choice and >>> if >>> people don’t like these books, they don’t have to use them. >>> >>> >>> Kerry >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing >>>> new >>>> technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is extremely time >>>> consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are not available in >>>> any >>>> other source and I use the speech on my phone to listen to them. When I >>>> really get into a book I move past the sound of the voice and just >>>> absorb >>>> the Contant. >>>> >>>> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it >>>> >>>> JODY >>>> >>>> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻 >>>> >>>> >>>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS >>>> Erik Weihenmayer >>>> >>>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The article in this email tells you how to find these type of >>>>> audiobooks >>>>> using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Barbara Stahl >>>>>> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced >>>>>> by >>>>>> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >>>>>> >>>>>> I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is >>>>>> surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be >>>>>> better >>>>>> than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to >>>>>> try >>>>>> to replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>
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I can deal with specific TTS voices reading to me. I like James in VDR. However, I do not think I would like Microsoft Sam or Eloquence reading to me a book I want to enjoy. You old timers will remember Microsoft Sam. LOL! Sent from my iPhone Pro Max > On Mar 20, 2023, at 6:20 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote: > > I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and > refuse to read them. I also use bookshare. They have books that I > couldn't get anywhere else. I can either listen to different TTS > voices read them to me in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and > can read the books in braille. It is my choice, and a great one to > have. TTS voices are getting better and better and the more books we > have access to, the better. > >> On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald wrote: >> It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be >> available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for years >> and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as voice dream, >> are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At least I don’t. I >> remember when I was in college my father bought me the Kurzweil reading >> machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was just so happy to be able to >> go out and buy any print book that I came to really like The Voice. It is >> what it is. It just means that we will have more freedom of choice and if >> people don’t like these books, they don’t have to use them. >> >> >> Kerry >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi >>> wrote: >>> >>> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing new >>> technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is extremely time >>> consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are not available in any >>> other source and I use the speech on my phone to listen to them. When I >>> really get into a book I move past the sound of the voice and just absorb >>> the Contant. >>> >>> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it >>> >>> JODY >>> >>> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻 >>> >>> >>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com >>> >>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS >>> Erik Weihenmayer >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> The article in this email tells you how to find these type of audiobooks >>>> using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it >>>> >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Barbara Stahl >>>>> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by >>>>> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >>>>> >>>>> I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is >>>>> surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better >>>>> than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try >>>>> to replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I completely agree. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dennis Long >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the >>>>>>> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by >>>>>>> eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated >>>>>>> book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll >>>>>>> continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years >>>>>>> to come. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alan Lemly >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>&
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Like you said, it's a matter of choice. I've pulled up books in Kindle and read them with a TTS, but all things being equal, I'd prefer a human reader. I don't have a problem with people preferring a human reader, since as you said, it's their choice. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and refuse to read them. I also use bookshare. They have books that I couldn't get anywhere else. I can either listen to different TTS voices read them to me in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and can read the books in braille. It is my choice, and a great one to have. TTS voices are getting better and better and the more books we have access to, the better. On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald wrote: > It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be > available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for > years and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as > voice dream, are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At > least I don’t. I remember when I was in college my father bought me > the Kurzweil reading machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was > just so happy to be able to go out and buy any print book that I came > to really like The Voice. It is what it is. It just means that we will > have more freedom of choice and if people don’t like these books, they don’t > have to use them. > > > Kerry > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi >> >> wrote: >> >> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing >> new technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is >> extremely time consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are >> not available in any other source and I use the speech on my phone to >> listen to them. When I really get into a book I move past the sound >> of the voice and just absorb the Contant. >> >> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it >> >> JODY >> >> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻 >> >> >> thunderwalker...@gmail.com >> >> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS >> Erik Weihenmayer >> >>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The article in this email tells you how to find these type of >>> audiobooks using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Barbara Stahl >>>> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks >>>> Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >>>> >>>> I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is >>>> surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be >>>> better than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for >>>> companies to try to replace people with robots just for profet. Its >>>> disgusting. >>>> >>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I completely agree. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dennis Long >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the >>>>>> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction >>>>>> by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI >>>>>> narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one >>>>>> and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated >>>>>> audio for many years to come. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan Lemly >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> >>>
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I have never understood why some blind people don't like TTS books and refuse to read them. I also use bookshare. They have books that I couldn't get anywhere else. I can either listen to different TTS voices read them to me in voice dream reader, or I have a BI40X and can read the books in braille. It is my choice, and a great one to have. TTS voices are getting better and better and the more books we have access to, the better. On 3/20/23, Kerry Macdonald wrote: > It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be > available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for years > and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as voice dream, > are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At least I don’t. I > remember when I was in college my father bought me the Kurzweil reading > machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was just so happy to be able to > go out and buy any print book that I came to really like The Voice. It is > what it is. It just means that we will have more freedom of choice and if > people don’t like these books, they don’t have to use them. > > > Kerry > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi >> wrote: >> >> I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing new >> technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is extremely time >> consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are not available in any >> other source and I use the speech on my phone to listen to them. When I >> really get into a book I move past the sound of the voice and just absorb >> the Contant. >> >> If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it >> >> JODY >> >> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻 >> >> >> thunderwalker...@gmail.com >> >> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS >> Erik Weihenmayer >> >>> On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The article in this email tells you how to find these type of audiobooks >>> using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Barbara Stahl >>>> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by >>>> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >>>> >>>> I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is >>>> surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better >>>> than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try >>>> to replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. >>>> >>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I completely agree. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dennis Long >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the >>>>>> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by >>>>>> eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated >>>>>> book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll >>>>>> continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years >>>>>> to come. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan Lemly >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>>>>> M. Taylor >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an >>>>>> AI Robot, Mac Daily News >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and >
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It is just another way to read books. It means that more books will be available for more people. I have read books with text to speech for years and the voices they have now, particularly with apps, such as voice dream, are so good after a while you don’t even notice it. At least I don’t. I remember when I was in college my father bought me the Kurzweil reading machine, and it was a TTS voice, however, I was just so happy to be able to go out and buy any print book that I came to really like The Voice. It is what it is. It just means that we will have more freedom of choice and if people don’t like these books, they don’t have to use them.KerrySent from my iPhoneOn Mar 17, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Jody ianuzzi wrote:I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing new technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is extremely time consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are not available in any other source and I use the speech on my phone to listen to them. When I really get into a book I move past the sound of the voice and just absorb the Contant. If these books become available in this format then I’m all for itJODYTo Boldly Go 🖖🏻 thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS Erik WeihenmayerOn Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote:The article in this email tells you how to find these type of audiobooks using the Books app just scroll down the email to find itBegin forwarded message:From: Barbara Stahl Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM ESTTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily NewsI listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try to replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote:I completely agree.Dennis LongSent from my iPhone SE 3On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come.Alan Lemly-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. TaylorSent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily NewsHello Everyone,I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored the selection.I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text.While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence.I will be posting a second article on this in a little while.Enjoy,MarkApple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed.By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian:The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030.On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator".Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks.Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market.MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be heard via Apple Books here.Original Article at:https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-audiobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphon
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I don’t see it as disgusting at all, just another way. I read a book in whatever way I can get it and for years have used text to speech, braille, human narration. It is sad if it takes work away from people but on the upside it should allow for books to be produced faster, thereby, more books. That thought makes me happy. All the best Angie > On 17 Mar 2023, at 13:49, Barbara Stahl wrote: > > The article in this email tells you how to find these type of audiobooks > using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Barbara Stahl >> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an >> AI Robot, Mac Daily News >> >> I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is >> surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better >> than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try to >> replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. >> >>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: >>> >>> I completely agree. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dennis Long >>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3 >>> >>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >>>> >>>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest >>>> quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating >>>> human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the >>>> same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a >>>> good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. >>>> >>>> Alan Lemly >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >>>> Taylor >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI >>>> Robot, Mac Daily News >>>> >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> >>>> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and >>>> explored the selection. >>>> >>>> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >>>> >>>> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I >>>> purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >>>> >>>> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >>>> >>>> Enjoy, >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot >>>> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a >>>> selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a >>>> catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and >>>> voice synthesis technologies it developed. >>>> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >>>> >>>> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with >>>> technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped >>>> 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global >>>> market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >>>> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >>>> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being >>>> "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". >>>> >>>> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant >>>> shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. >>>> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the >>>> strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the >>>> market. >>>> >>>> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can >>>> be heard via Apple Books here. >>>> >>>> Original Article at: >>>> https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au >>>> diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ >>>> >>>> >>>>
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I disagree, I don’t think it’s disgusting that they are introducing new technology for reading books. Having a human narrator is extremely time consuming! I listen to books from Bookshare which are not available in any other source and I use the speech on my phone to listen to them. When I really get into a book I move past the sound of the voice and just absorb the Contant. If these books become available in this format then I’m all for it JODY To Boldly Go 🖖🏻 thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS Erik Weihenmayer > On Mar 17, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Barbara Stahl > wrote: > > > The article in this email tells you how to find these type of audiobooks > using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Barbara Stahl >> Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an >> AI Robot, Mac Daily News >> >> I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is >> surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better >> than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try to >> replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. >> >>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: >>> >>> I completely agree. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dennis Long >>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3 >>> >>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >>>> >>>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest >>>> quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating >>>> human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the >>>> same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a >>>> good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. >>>> >>>> Alan Lemly >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >>>> Taylor >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI >>>> Robot, Mac Daily News >>>> >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> >>>> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and >>>> explored the selection. >>>> >>>> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >>>> >>>> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I >>>> purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >>>> >>>> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >>>> >>>> Enjoy, >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot >>>> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a >>>> selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a >>>> catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and >>>> voice synthesis technologies it developed. >>>> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >>>> >>>> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with >>>> technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped >>>> 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global >>>> market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >>>> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >>>> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being >>>> "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". >>>> >>>> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant >>>> shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. >>>> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the >>>> strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the >>>> market. >>>> >>>> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview ca
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The article in this email tells you how to find these type of audiobooks using the Books app just scroll down the email to find it Begin forwarded message: > From: Barbara Stahl > Date: January 14, 2023 at 10:57:50 AM EST > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI > Robot, Mac Daily News > > I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is > surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better than > human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try to > replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. > >> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: >> >> I completely agree. >> >> >> >> Dennis Long >> Sent from my iPhone SE 3 >> >>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >>> >>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest >>> quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating >>> human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the >>> same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good >>> supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. >>> >>> Alan Lemly >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >>> Taylor >>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI >>> Robot, Mac Daily News >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and >>> explored the selection. >>> >>> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >>> >>> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I >>> purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >>> >>> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >>> >>> Enjoy, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot >>> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a >>> selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a >>> catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and >>> voice synthesis technologies it developed. >>> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >>> >>> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with >>> technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped >>> 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global >>> market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >>> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >>> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being >>> "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". >>> >>> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant >>> shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. >>> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the >>> strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market. >>> >>> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can >>> be heard via Apple Books here. >>> >>> Original Article at: >>> https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au >>> diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this
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I listened to the preview and it is scary good!! Absolutely amazing, we’ve come a long way since Deck talk, haven’t we? Lol.DanSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2023, at 8:17 PM, Esther Levegnale wrote:I totally agree with you. There is nothing like a human voice reading a book. EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jan 14, 2023, at 10:57 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote:I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try to replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote:I completely agree.Dennis LongSent from my iPhone SE 3On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come.Alan Lemly-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. TaylorSent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily NewsHello Everyone,I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored the selection.I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text.While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence.I will be posting a second article on this in a little while.Enjoy,MarkApple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed.By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian:The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030.On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator".Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks.Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market.MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be heard via Apple Books here.Original Article at:https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-audiobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201d926f6%24f71d1970%24e5574c50%24%40ucla.edu.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/051801d927de%2459ba39e0%240d2eada0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is import
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I listened to the first sample. I have heard some human read audio books that were worse then this AI reader. Alexa isn't nearly as good. I use voice dream reader for listening to bookshare books. I have no problems listening to TTS books. The synthetic voices are getting better and better. On 1/19/23, Leo Bado wrote: > Well, by the time I got to listen to them, I had already learned that they > were AI voices. > > Best, > Leo Bado > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 12:27 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an > AI Robot, Mac Daily News > > Have you listened to these samples? If I didn't know these were digital/AI > generated voices I would not have guessed it. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > literophi...@myself.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 4:50 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an > AI Robot, Mac Daily News > > Well, all I can say is that, in all certainty, I flatly believe that such > digital voices are quite good for some books, not for all. However, I also > believe that is fair to say that AI is just going to get better at this > point. Inflection and intonation based on particular emotions shouldn't be > too difficult to emulate in the future. In all likelihood, this is already a > factual phenomenon in AI labs. > > Best, > Leo Bado > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:37 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an > AI Robot, Mac Daily News > > So I must admit that is quite amazing and I wonder exactly what is involved > when they say "This is an Apple Books audiobook narrated by a digital voice > based on a human narrator" I guess Siri is or at least was based on this > ladie's voice, forgot her name when Siri originally came out, but it > certainly did not sound this good and neither do the Siri voices sound this > good now. I wonder if such voices will be available as Voiceover voices at > some point. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > literophi...@myself.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:01 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an > AI Robot, Mac Daily News > > Click on the following two links to listen to an audio sample: > Book 1: > https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1640359031 > book 2: > https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1636546592 > > Best, > Leo Bado > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Amy > Ruell > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 3:15 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an > AI Robot, Mac Daily News > > Where can I find a sample of the AI Apple books? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Ketan Kothari wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Although I have yet not tried the AI narrated book could anyone please >> explain difference between a electronic voice such as vocallizer or >> eloquence synthesizer voice and AI narrated book? Thank you. >> >> Ketan Kothari from Mumbai India >> >>> On 14/01/2023, Alan Lemly wrote: >>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the >>> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by >>> eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated >>> book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll >>> continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to >>> come. >>> >>> Alan Lemly >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> M. >>> Taylor >>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by >>> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and >>> explored the selection. >>> >>> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >>> >>>
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Well, by the time I got to listen to them, I had already learned that they were AI voices. Best, Leo Bado -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 12:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Have you listened to these samples? If I didn't know these were digital/AI generated voices I would not have guessed it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of literophi...@myself.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 4:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Well, all I can say is that, in all certainty, I flatly believe that such digital voices are quite good for some books, not for all. However, I also believe that is fair to say that AI is just going to get better at this point. Inflection and intonation based on particular emotions shouldn't be too difficult to emulate in the future. In all likelihood, this is already a factual phenomenon in AI labs. Best, Leo Bado -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News So I must admit that is quite amazing and I wonder exactly what is involved when they say "This is an Apple Books audiobook narrated by a digital voice based on a human narrator" I guess Siri is or at least was based on this ladie's voice, forgot her name when Siri originally came out, but it certainly did not sound this good and neither do the Siri voices sound this good now. I wonder if such voices will be available as Voiceover voices at some point. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of literophi...@myself.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Click on the following two links to listen to an audio sample: Book 1: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1640359031 book 2: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1636546592 Best, Leo Bado -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Amy Ruell Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 3:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Where can I find a sample of the AI Apple books? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Ketan Kothari wrote: > > Hi all, > > Although I have yet not tried the AI narrated book could anyone please > explain difference between a electronic voice such as vocallizer or > eloquence synthesizer voice and AI narrated book? Thank you. > > Ketan Kothari from Mumbai India > >> On 14/01/2023, Alan Lemly wrote: >> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the >> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by >> eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated >> book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll >> continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to >> come. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >> Taylor >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by >> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and >> explored the selection. >> >> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >> >> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to >> choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >> >> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Mark >> >> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI >> robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly >> launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has >> quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using >> artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed. >> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >> >> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, >> wi
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Alexa does not come even close to these voices and the quality of the narration. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 10:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Yep. Have Amazon Alexa read you a book. Emotion emulation is… at a good start. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Https://devinprater.micro.blog On Jan 18, 2023, at 6:50 PM, wrote: Well, all I can say is that, in all certainty, I flatly believe that such digital voices are quite good for some books, not for all. However, I also believe that is fair to say that AI is just going to get better at this point. Inflection and intonation based on particular emotions shouldn't be too difficult to emulate in the future. In all likelihood, this is already a factual phenomenon in AI labs. Best, Leo Bado -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News So I must admit that is quite amazing and I wonder exactly what is involved when they say "This is an Apple Books audiobook narrated by a digital voice based on a human narrator" I guess Siri is or at least was based on this ladie's voice, forgot her name when Siri originally came out, but it certainly did not sound this good and neither do the Siri voices sound this good now. I wonder if such voices will be available as Voiceover voices at some point. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of literophi...@myself.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Click on the following two links to listen to an audio sample: Book 1: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1640359031 book 2: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1636546592 Best, Leo Bado -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Amy Ruell Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 3:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Where can I find a sample of the AI Apple books? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Ketan Kothari wrote: Hi all, Although I have yet not tried the AI narrated book could anyone please explain difference between a electronic voice such as vocallizer or eloquence synthesizer voice and AI narrated book? Thank you. Ketan Kothari from Mumbai India On 14/01/2023, Alan Lemly wrote: While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Hello Everyone, I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored the selection. I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. Enjoy, Mark Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed. By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market. Mac
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Have you listened to these samples? If I didn't know these were digital/AI generated voices I would not have guessed it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of literophi...@myself.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 4:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Well, all I can say is that, in all certainty, I flatly believe that such digital voices are quite good for some books, not for all. However, I also believe that is fair to say that AI is just going to get better at this point. Inflection and intonation based on particular emotions shouldn't be too difficult to emulate in the future. In all likelihood, this is already a factual phenomenon in AI labs. Best, Leo Bado -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News So I must admit that is quite amazing and I wonder exactly what is involved when they say "This is an Apple Books audiobook narrated by a digital voice based on a human narrator" I guess Siri is or at least was based on this ladie's voice, forgot her name when Siri originally came out, but it certainly did not sound this good and neither do the Siri voices sound this good now. I wonder if such voices will be available as Voiceover voices at some point. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of literophi...@myself.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Click on the following two links to listen to an audio sample: Book 1: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1640359031 book 2: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1636546592 Best, Leo Bado -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Amy Ruell Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 3:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Where can I find a sample of the AI Apple books? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Ketan Kothari wrote: > > Hi all, > > Although I have yet not tried the AI narrated book could anyone please > explain difference between a electronic voice such as vocallizer or > eloquence synthesizer voice and AI narrated book? Thank you. > > Ketan Kothari from Mumbai India > >> On 14/01/2023, Alan Lemly wrote: >> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the >> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by >> eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated >> book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll >> continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to >> come. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >> Taylor >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by >> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and >> explored the selection. >> >> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >> >> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to >> choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >> >> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Mark >> >> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI >> robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly >> launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has >> quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using >> artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed. >> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >> >> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, >> with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last >> year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders >> believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are descri
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Yep. Have Amazon Alexa read you a book. Emotion emulation is… at a good start. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Https://devinprater.micro.blog > On Jan 18, 2023, at 6:50 PM, > wrote: > > Well, all I can say is that, in all certainty, I flatly believe that such > digital voices are quite good for some books, not for all. However, I also > believe that is fair to say that AI is just going to get better at this > point. Inflection and intonation based on particular emotions shouldn't be > too difficult to emulate in the future. In all likelihood, this is already a > factual phenomenon in AI labs. > > Best, > Leo Bado > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:37 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI > Robot, Mac Daily News > > So I must admit that is quite amazing and I wonder exactly what is involved > when they say "This is an Apple Books audiobook narrated by a digital voice > based on a human narrator" I guess Siri is or at least was based on this > ladie's voice, forgot her name when Siri originally came out, but it > certainly did not sound this good and neither do the Siri voices sound this > good now. I wonder if such voices will be available as Voiceover voices at > some point. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > literophi...@myself.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:01 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI > Robot, Mac Daily News > > Click on the following two links to listen to an audio sample: > Book 1: > https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1640359031 > book 2: > https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1636546592 > > Best, > Leo Bado > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Amy > Ruell > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 3:15 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI > Robot, Mac Daily News > > Where can I find a sample of the AI Apple books? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Ketan Kothari wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Although I have yet not tried the AI narrated book could anyone please >> explain difference between a electronic voice such as vocallizer or >> eloquence synthesizer voice and AI narrated book? Thank you. >> >> Ketan Kothari from Mumbai India >> >>> On 14/01/2023, Alan Lemly wrote: >>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the >>> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by >>> eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated >>> book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll >>> continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to >>> come. >>> >>> Alan Lemly >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >>> Taylor >>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by >>> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and >>> explored the selection. >>> >>> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >>> >>> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to >>> choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >>> >>> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >>> >>> Enjoy, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI >>> robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly >>> launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has >>> quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using >>> artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed. >>> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >>> >>> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, >>> with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last >>> ye
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Well, all I can say is that, in all certainty, I flatly believe that such digital voices are quite good for some books, not for all. However, I also believe that is fair to say that AI is just going to get better at this point. Inflection and intonation based on particular emotions shouldn't be too difficult to emulate in the future. In all likelihood, this is already a factual phenomenon in AI labs. Best, Leo Bado -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News So I must admit that is quite amazing and I wonder exactly what is involved when they say "This is an Apple Books audiobook narrated by a digital voice based on a human narrator" I guess Siri is or at least was based on this ladie's voice, forgot her name when Siri originally came out, but it certainly did not sound this good and neither do the Siri voices sound this good now. I wonder if such voices will be available as Voiceover voices at some point. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of literophi...@myself.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Click on the following two links to listen to an audio sample: Book 1: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1640359031 book 2: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1636546592 Best, Leo Bado -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Amy Ruell Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 3:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Where can I find a sample of the AI Apple books? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Ketan Kothari wrote: > > Hi all, > > Although I have yet not tried the AI narrated book could anyone please > explain difference between a electronic voice such as vocallizer or > eloquence synthesizer voice and AI narrated book? Thank you. > > Ketan Kothari from Mumbai India > >> On 14/01/2023, Alan Lemly wrote: >> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the >> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by >> eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated >> book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll >> continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to >> come. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >> Taylor >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by >> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and >> explored the selection. >> >> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >> >> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to >> choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >> >> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Mark >> >> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI >> robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly >> launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has >> quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using >> artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed. >> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >> >> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, >> with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last >> year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders >> believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as >> being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". >> >> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a >> significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of >> audiobooks. >> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian >> said the strategy, if successful, co
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So I must admit that is quite amazing and I wonder exactly what is involved when they say "This is an Apple Books audiobook narrated by a digital voice based on a human narrator" I guess Siri is or at least was based on this ladie's voice, forgot her name when Siri originally came out, but it certainly did not sound this good and neither do the Siri voices sound this good now. I wonder if such voices will be available as Voiceover voices at some point. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of literophi...@myself.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 5:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Click on the following two links to listen to an audio sample: Book 1: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1640359031 book 2: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1636546592 Best, Leo Bado -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Amy Ruell Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 3:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Where can I find a sample of the AI Apple books? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Ketan Kothari wrote: > > Hi all, > > Although I have yet not tried the AI narrated book could anyone please > explain difference between a electronic voice such as vocallizer or > eloquence synthesizer voice and AI narrated book? Thank you. > > Ketan Kothari from Mumbai India > >> On 14/01/2023, Alan Lemly wrote: >> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the >> highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by >> eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated >> book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll >> continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to >> come. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >> Taylor >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by >> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and >> explored the selection. >> >> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >> >> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to >> choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >> >> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Mark >> >> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI >> robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly >> launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has >> quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using >> artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed. >> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >> >> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, >> with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last >> year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders >> believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as >> being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". >> >> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a >> significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of >> audiobooks. >> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian >> said the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications >> for the market. >> >> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview >> can be heard via Apple Books here. >> >> Original Article at: >> https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selectio >> n-of-au >> diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V >> iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owner
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Click on the following two links to listen to an audio sample: Book 1: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1640359031 book 2: https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/id1636546592 Best, Leo Bado -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Amy Ruell Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2023 3:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Where can I find a sample of the AI Apple books? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Ketan Kothari wrote: > > Hi all, > > Although I have yet not tried the AI narrated book could anyone please > explain difference between a electronic voice such as vocallizer or > eloquence synthesizer voice and AI narrated book? Thank you. > > Ketan Kothari from Mumbai India > >> On 14/01/2023, Alan Lemly wrote: >> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest >> quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating >> human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the >> same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good >> supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >> Taylor >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI >> Robot, Mac Daily News >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored >> the selection. >> >> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >> >> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I >> purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >> >> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Mark >> >> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot >> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a >> selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a >> catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and >> voice synthesis technologies it developed. >> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >> >> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with >> technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped >> 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global >> market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being >> "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". >> >> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant >> shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. >> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the >> strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the >> market. >> >> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be >> heard via Apple Books here. >> >> Original Article at: >> https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au >> diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201d926f6%24f71d1970%24e5574c5
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Search for “AI Narration” in the books app. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Https://devinprater.micro.blog > On Jan 18, 2023, at 3:15 AM, Amy Ruell wrote: > > Where can I find a sample of the AI Apple books? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Ketan Kothari wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Although I have yet not tried the AI narrated book could anyone please >> explain difference between a electronic voice such as vocallizer or >> eloquence synthesizer voice and AI narrated book? Thank you. >> >> Ketan Kothari from Mumbai India >> >>> On 14/01/2023, Alan Lemly wrote: >>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest >>> quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating >>> human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the >>> same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good >>> supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. >>> >>> Alan Lemly >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >>> Taylor >>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI >>> Robot, Mac Daily News >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored >>> the selection. >>> >>> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >>> >>> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I >>> purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >>> >>> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >>> >>> Enjoy, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot >>> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a >>> selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a >>> catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and >>> voice synthesis technologies it developed. >>> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >>> >>> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with >>> technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped >>> 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global >>> market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >>> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >>> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being >>> "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". >>> >>> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant >>> shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. >>> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the >>> strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the >>> market. >>> >>> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be >>> heard via Apple Books here. >>> >>> Original Article at: >>> https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au >>> diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discus
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Where can I find a sample of the AI Apple books? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Ketan Kothari wrote: > > Hi all, > > Although I have yet not tried the AI narrated book could anyone please > explain difference between a electronic voice such as vocallizer or > eloquence synthesizer voice and AI narrated book? Thank you. > > Ketan Kothari from Mumbai India > >> On 14/01/2023, Alan Lemly wrote: >> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest >> quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating >> human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the >> same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good >> supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >> Taylor >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI >> Robot, Mac Daily News >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored >> the selection. >> >> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >> >> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I >> purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >> >> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Mark >> >> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot >> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a >> selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a >> catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and >> voice synthesis technologies it developed. >> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >> >> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with >> technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped >> 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global >> market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being >> "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". >> >> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant >> shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. >> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the >> strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the >> market. >> >> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be >> heard via Apple Books here. >> >> Original Article at: >> https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au >> diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201d926f6%24f71d1970%24e5574c50%24%40ucla.edu. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.
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Hi all, Although I have yet not tried the AI narrated book could anyone please explain difference between a electronic voice such as vocallizer or eloquence synthesizer voice and AI narrated book? Thank you. Ketan Kothari from Mumbai India On 14/01/2023, Alan Lemly wrote: > While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest > quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating > human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the > same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good > supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. > > Alan Lemly > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. > Taylor > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI > Robot, Mac Daily News > > Hello Everyone, > > I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored > the selection. > > I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. > > While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I > purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. > > I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. > > Enjoy, > > Mark > > Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot > MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a > selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a > catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and > voice synthesis technologies it developed. > By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: > > The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with > technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped > 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global > market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. > On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the > catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being > "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". > > Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant > shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. > Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the > strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the > market. > > MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be > heard via Apple Books here. > > Original Article at: > https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au > diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201d926f6%24f71d1970%24e5574c50%24%40ucla.edu. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/
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Hi all, I actually thought that was a fairly good example of human narration so far. I can definitely see better in the future. Nothing is better than a human narrator and I don't want narrators jobs taken away by a.i but wow!Lelia Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Devin Prater wrote:AI still has the issues of normal speech synthesis. I was listening to the sample of one, and it couldn't tell the difference between the present and past tense of the word "read." They'll still have pronunciation issues, and I would never want it to read a Brandon Sanderson book.Just imagine:“Szeth-son-son-Vallano, Truthless of Shinovar, wore white on the day he was to kill a king"Yeah no. Alex on the iPhone already has trouble reading some names in harry Potter books and fanfics, like the French school members in the fourth book, like someone who was iconic to the book as Fleur Delacour. And this isn't just on Apple, every TTS voice is going to have problems and I hope Apple lets all authors know that.Devin Praterr.d.t.pra...@gmail.comOn Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 12:08 AM Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:I completely agree. Dennis Long Sent from my iPhone SE 3 > On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote: > > While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. > > Alan Lemly > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News > > Hello Everyone, > > I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored the selection. > > I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. > > While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. > > I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. > > Enjoy, > > Mark > > Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed. > By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: > > The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. > On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". > > Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. > Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market. > > MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be heard via Apple Books here. > > Original Article at: > https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au > diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201d926f6%24f71d1970%24e5574c50%24%40ucla.edu. > > -- > The follo
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AI still has the issues of normal speech synthesis. I was listening to the sample of one, and it couldn't tell the difference between the present and past tense of the word "read." They'll still have pronunciation issues, and I would never want it to read a Brandon Sanderson book. Just imagine: “Szeth-son-son-Vallano, Truthless of Shinovar, wore white on the day he was to kill a king" Yeah no. Alex on the iPhone already has trouble reading some names in harry Potter books and fanfics, like the French school members in the fourth book, like someone who was iconic to the book as Fleur Delacour. And this isn't just on Apple, every TTS voice is going to have problems and I hope Apple lets all authors know that. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 12:08 AM Dennis Long wrote: > I completely agree. > > > > Dennis Long > Sent from my iPhone SE 3 > > > On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: > > > > While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest > quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating > human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the > same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good > supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. > > > > Alan Lemly > > > > -Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > M. Taylor > > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an > AI Robot, Mac Daily News > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and > explored the selection. > > > > I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. > > > > While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, > I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. > > > > I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. > > > > Enjoy, > > > > Mark > > > > Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot > MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a > selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a > catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and > voice synthesis technologies it developed. > > By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: > > > > The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, > with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year > jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the > global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. > > On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the > catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being > "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". > > > > Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant > shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. > > Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said > the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the > market. > > > > MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview > can be heard via Apple Books here. > > > > Original Article at: > > > https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au > > diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ > > > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201d926f6%24f71d
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I will welcome AI narrated books especially in the nonfiction arena where voice acting isn't relevant. And I expect I'd prefer a well done AI narrated fictional work as opposed to a poorly done human narrated one. Like so much in a system where profits determine the allocation of resources, I hope a good balance can be reached so funds remain available to compensate those making their living doing voice narration. Because you're never going to convince me that AI will ever be able to replicate well done human voice acting. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 3:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News I don't know, it wasn't all that long ago that we couldn't have imagined AI narrated books at all. Things are moving fast, so I wouldn't be too quick to conclude that AI narrated books could never be of the same quality as human narrated ones. And I don't see why we couldn't have both AI and human narrated books. It seems very likely that there are a lot more books out there than there are human narrators to narrate them. So AI narrated books may well be a big boost to making more books accessible than otherwise would be the case. Evan On 1/14/2023 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: > I completely agree. > > > > Dennis Long > Sent from my iPhone SE 3 > >> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >> >> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest >> quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating >> human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the >> same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good >> supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by >> an AI Robot, Mac Daily News >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored >> the selection. >> >> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >> >> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I >> purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >> >> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Mark >> >> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot >> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a >> selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a >> catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and >> voice synthesis technologies it developed. >> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >> >> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with >> technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped >> 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global >> market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being >> "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". >> >> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant >> shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. >> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the >> strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market. >> >> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be >> heard via Apple Books here. >> >> Original Article at: >> https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selectio >> n-of-au >> diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark T
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Well, there's probably also nothing like a human voice reading a book badly. Now I'm not dissing Learning Ally. I have used them quite a bit and learned a lot from the books I've gotten from them over many years. However, those of you who have used them very much at all will know that while some of their narrations are very good, and some are passable, some are downright terrible. I would take AI narration over bad human narration any time. Evan On 1/14/2023 8:17 PM, Esther Levegnale wrote: I totally agree with you. There is nothing like a human voice reading a book. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! On Jan 14, 2023, at 10:57 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote: I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try to replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: I completely agree. Dennis Long Sent from my iPhone SE 3 On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Hello Everyone, I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored the selection. I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. Enjoy, Mark Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed. By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market. MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be heard via Apple Books here. Original Article at: https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201d926f6%24f71d1970%24e5574c50%24%40ucla.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is
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I totally agree with you. There is nothing like a human voice reading a book. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > On Jan 14, 2023, at 10:57 AM, Barbara Stahl > wrote: > > I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is > surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better than > human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try to > replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. > >> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: >> >> I completely agree. >> >> >> >> Dennis Long >> Sent from my iPhone SE 3 >> >>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >>> >>> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest >>> quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating >>> human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the >>> same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good >>> supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. >>> >>> Alan Lemly >>> >>> -Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >>> Taylor >>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI >>> Robot, Mac Daily News >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and >>> explored the selection. >>> >>> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >>> >>> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I >>> purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >>> >>> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >>> >>> Enjoy, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot >>> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a >>> selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a >>> catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and >>> voice synthesis technologies it developed. >>> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >>> >>> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with >>> technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped >>> 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global >>> market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >>> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >>> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being >>> "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". >>> >>> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant >>> shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. >>> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the >>> strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market. >>> >>> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can >>> be heard via Apple Books here. >>> >>> Original Article at: >>> https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au >>> diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it
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I get the feeling that some people here are comparing AI narrated books to those professionally narrated by the best in the business, as from Audible. But that is the wrong comparison. Firstly, for those reading nonfiction, you don't need a professional dramatic performance of a book. Also, there are tons of magazines out there that could be AI narrated but that aren't because there are not enough human narrators, or the funds, to do the job. If it comes down to material being accessible via AI narration, or not accessible at all, I think many people will overcome their prejudices and listen to them. Also, AI narration is a fast moving technology. As I said, it would be unwise to claim that it could never be as good as the best human narration. But even if it never does get that good, there are still a lot of areas where it would be very useful in filling an accessibility void. Evan On 1/14/2023 3:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: There are many examples where robots or robotic processes can do things much faster and more accurately than humans and in principle there is nothing wrong with utilizing technology we developed to improve the manufacturing process or even health care. In the context of audio books I am also a huge fan of human narration and I for one wouldn't listen to an e-Book read by a synthesized voice if you paid me. As for books read by AI I can't say, guess in a way it's still a synthesized voice, but if it is really that good I might listen to it although my guess is that I would still prefer a good human narrator. Of course sometimes you also get not very good narrators especially with books from the public domain, so here a really good AI maybe will do a better job. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Barbara Stahl Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 7:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try to replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: I completely agree. Dennis Long Sent from my iPhone SE 3 On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Hello Everyone, I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored the selection. I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. Enjoy, Mark Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed. By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market. MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be heard via Apple Books here. Original Article at: https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iP
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I don't know, it wasn't all that long ago that we couldn't have imagined AI narrated books at all. Things are moving fast, so I wouldn't be too quick to conclude that AI narrated books could never be of the same quality as human narrated ones. And I don't see why we couldn't have both AI and human narrated books. It seems very likely that there are a lot more books out there than there are human narrators to narrate them. So AI narrated books may well be a big boost to making more books accessible than otherwise would be the case. Evan On 1/14/2023 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: I completely agree. Dennis Long Sent from my iPhone SE 3 On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Hello Everyone, I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored the selection. I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. Enjoy, Mark Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed. By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market. MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be heard via Apple Books here. Original Article at: https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201d926f6%24f71d1970%24e5574c50%24%40ucla.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/m
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I am afraid it may come down to supply and demand, if people are willing to pay the extra cost it shouldn't be a problem, but look at the clothing industry, you get all this super cheap "fast fashion" which is incredible harmful for the planet yet people buy it by the truck load, it goes in the closet and with any luck the stuff may get worn once or twice before it gets tossed in the garbage. The problem of course is that even expensive clothing is made in the same countries and while of course better materials are being used, one still wonders how much you pay for the fact it has a certain name or logo on it. Couldn't clothing of the same quality and fit be made in the US or Canada and be sold for the same price? I am quite sure it could, but then somebody would have to pay $150 for a pair of jeans which doesn't say Hugo Boss or Lewis or whatever on it and then we have a problem. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News Hello Everyone, I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored the selection. I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. Enjoy, Mark Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed. By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market. MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be heard via Apple Books here. Original Article at: https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201d926f6%24f71d1970%24e5574c50%24%40ucla.edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn -
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There are many examples where robots or robotic processes can do things much faster and more accurately than humans and in principle there is nothing wrong with utilizing technology we developed to improve the manufacturing process or even health care. In the context of audio books I am also a huge fan of human narration and I for one wouldn't listen to an e-Book read by a synthesized voice if you paid me. As for books read by AI I can't say, guess in a way it's still a synthesized voice, but if it is really that good I might listen to it although my guess is that I would still prefer a good human narrator. Of course sometimes you also get not very good narrators especially with books from the public domain, so here a really good AI maybe will do a better job. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Barbara Stahl Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 7:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try to replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. > On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: > > I completely agree. > > > > Dennis Long > Sent from my iPhone SE 3 > >> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >> >> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest >> quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating >> human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the >> same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good >> supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >> Taylor >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI >> Robot, Mac Daily News >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored >> the selection. >> >> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >> >> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I >> purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >> >> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Mark >> >> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot >> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a >> selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a >> catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and >> voice synthesis technologies it developed. >> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >> >> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with >> technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped >> 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global >> market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being >> "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". >> >> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant >> shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. >> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the >> strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market. >> >> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be >> heard via Apple Books here. >> >> Original Article at: >> https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au >> diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mar
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I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is surprisingly good. But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better than human narration for me. And its totally wrong for companies to try to replace people with robots just for profet. Its disgusting. > On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long wrote: > > I completely agree. > > > > Dennis Long > Sent from my iPhone SE 3 > >> On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: >> >> While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest >> quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating >> human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the >> same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good >> supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. >> >> Alan Lemly >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. >> Taylor >> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI >> Robot, Mac Daily News >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored >> the selection. >> >> I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. >> >> While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I >> purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. >> >> I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Mark >> >> Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot >> MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a >> selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a >> catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and >> voice synthesis technologies it developed. >> By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: >> >> The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with >> technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped >> 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global >> market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. >> On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the >> catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being >> "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". >> >> Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant >> shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. >> Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the >> strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market. >> >> MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be >> heard via Apple Books here. >> >> Original Article at: >> https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au >> diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201d926f6%24f71d1970%24e5574c50%24%40ucla.edu. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >>
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I completely agree. Dennis Long Sent from my iPhone SE 3 > On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly wrote: > > While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest > quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating > human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the > same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good > supply of human narrated audio for many years to come. > > Alan Lemly > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. > Taylor > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI > Robot, Mac Daily News > > Hello Everyone, > > I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored > the selection. > > I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text. > > While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I > purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence. > > I will be posting a second article on this in a little while. > > Enjoy, > > Mark > > Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot > MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a > selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a > catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and > voice synthesis technologies it developed. > By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian: > > The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with > technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped > 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global > market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030. > On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the > catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being > "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator". > > Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant > shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks. > Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the > strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market. > > MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be > heard via Apple Books here. > > Original Article at: > https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-au > diobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/ > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201d926f6%24f71d1970%24e5574c50%24%40ucla.edu. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/051801d927de%2459ba39e0%240d2eada0%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for
