Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
And looking through the manual for the braillino, and I’m not sure if it was the latest one, I saw a list of file types that you could import to the device using their proprietary program that you install on your PC. The file types listed are both doc and DOCx, plus RTF, HTML, and of course text files. The formatting I guess is stripped out, but the text information remains. They do not mention PDF files, even text base ones. I wonder if it is possible to get a text base PDF file from a computer to this device using the HT proprietary transfer program. That would be pretty special if it were possible. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 20, 2018, at 2:59 PM, alia robinson wrote: > > if all you want to do is read it’s worth it because you don’t notice the > smaller amount of cells because of the scrolling. I doubt the audio thing > drove the price up. I think their displays are just on the expensive side, > and IMO it shows. the braille, the feel of everything is the best I’ve ever > used. > > On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > That auto scroll sounds like the only thing that would make a really small > display reasonably usable. I find the whole audio thing kind of not > necessary, and I wish it wasn’t included, because maybe the price would be > less. 2400 bucks for a 16 sell display is a lot of dollars. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
if all you want to do is read it’s worth it because you don’t notice the smaller amount of cells because of the scrolling. I doubt the audio thing drove the price up. I think their displays are just on the expensive side, and IMO it shows. the braille, the feel of everything is the best I’ve ever used. On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Mary Otten wrote: That auto scroll sounds like the only thing that would make a really small display reasonably usable. I find the whole audio thing kind of not necessary, and I wish it wasn’t included, because maybe the price would be less. 2400 bucks for a 16 sell display is a lot of dollars. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
t they reported that my audio sounded a bit >>>> "crackly". >>>> >>>> Hiccups remain with the audio interface. For example, I turned the >>>> Actilino off and back on, and even though I re-enabled the audio >>>> interface, I found >>>> that the connection was no longer stable. I had to forget the Actilino's >>>> audio connection to my iPhone and then re-establish it to stabilize the >>>> connection. >>>> In defense of Help Tech, the Actilino is a relatively new device, >>>> appearing on the US market in June of 2017. This may simply be a bug that >>>> will be addressed >>>> in a future firmware release. >>>> >>>> Time Keeps On Ticking >>>> >>>> When powering on the Actilino, you will find the name of the device along >>>> with the current time. This can be easier to check than having to wait for >>>> your >>>> braille display to connect to your iPhone, so while it's a minor detail, I >>>> found it helpful. Sometimes, all I need to know is the current time, and >>>> this >>>> is easily determined on the Actilino. >>>> >>>> Triple-Action Keys >>>> >>>> The manual calls these "triple-action keys" because they can be pressed in >>>> one of three ways. On iOS, pressing them away from you pans the braille >>>> backward, >>>> pressing either one toward you pans the braille forward, pressing straight >>>> down on the left button will activate the Delete key, and pressing down on >>>> the >>>> right triple-action key will activate the Enter key. Again, it's possible >>>> to remap these functions with iOS 11. >>>> >>>> The Case >>>> >>>> The Actilino comes with a case that fits the device well. The case has a >>>> magnet inside of it that secures the Actilino. The magnet in the case came >>>> unglued >>>> in the first one I had, but the Actilino still feels secure even when I'm >>>> moving around. When opened, the case provides access to all features and >>>> functions, >>>> so you can use it on the go. >>>> >>>> Miscellaneous >>>> >>>> Battery life varies dramatically depending on how you use the Actilino. If >>>> you are always connected with both audio and braille to a Bluetooth device, >>>> your battery isn't likely to last very long compared to when the device is >>>> functioning only as a standalone notetaker. I have found that battery life, >>>> when used mainly with PC mode, is around 25 hours. Unlike the VarioUltra, >>>> the Actilino does not see a large decrease in battery life when it is >>>> unplugged >>>> and turned off. >>>> >>>> Charging is done through a proprietary plug that has a magnet on one end >>>> and a standard type A USB plug on the other. However, the connection >>>> doesn't have >>>> to be proprietary, the magnetic connector on the Actilino can be pulled >>>> off to be a Micro USB plug so that it works with all Micro USB cables. >>>> This information >>>> is not available in the manual, it was something Triomph kindly provided >>>> to me when I asked about it. It's great that Handy Tech has not only >>>> designed >>>> something that can fit on the device no matter which direction the cable >>>> is facing, but they have also given the user the option of removing the >>>> proprietary >>>> part if desired. You will need a good set of fingernails to do so (and the >>>> manufacturer does not recommend removing the proprietary plug), but I >>>> managed >>>> to remove it and the result works well for me. >>>> >>>> When comparing user documentation, I found the VarioUltra >>>> to have the most readable and complete documentation of the two devices. >>>> New features are added in the manual as they become available, and are >>>> easy to >>>> find. Even the core feature set with the >>>> Actilino's documentation >>>> lacks some commands such as the one for enabling Mobile ATC. Another >>>> example is that the audio interface is located in its own section (4.2), >>>> which is >>>> far below the section on connecting an iPhone through VoiceOver (section >
Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
That auto scroll sounds like the only thing that would make a really small display reasonably usable. I find the whole audio thing kind of not necessary, and I wish it wasn’t included, because maybe the price would be less. 2400 bucks for a 16 sell display is a lot of dollars. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 20, 2018, at 11:20 AM, alia robinson wrote: > > this is so much better than auto scroll on the actilino. it moves once your > finger gets to the end of a line. it doesn’t move until then, and it works on > the iphone! this is a game changer for reading braille for me. I have carpal > tunnel. I can’t push that advance button thousands of times, plus the orbit > doesn’t update with mac. it’s not something I would *ever* buy. > > On Oct 20, 2018, at 2:17 PM, > wrote: > > The orbit reader does not auto-scroll nor would I want it to. It functions as > a simple note taker which is just we've been wanting for years. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
the audio isn’t on by default. you have to pair the actilino two ways one for audio and another for the display. they work independently of each other. you never have to activate the audio and it’s just like it’s not there, and yes, it scrolls after you turn it on with a key combination. I love it. On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:17 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: Wait a sec. Did I read that correctly? Actilino auto scrolls on the iPhone? Now that is very interesting. Does that mean I could turn off all the audio features on the unit? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
Wait a sec. Did I read that correctly? Actilino auto scrolls on the iPhone? Now that is very interesting. Does that mean I could turn off all the audio features on the unit? Thank you, Traci Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 20, 2018, at 11:20 AM, alia robinson wrote: > > this is so much better than auto scroll on the actilino. it moves once your > finger gets to the end of a line. it doesn’t move until then, and it works on > the iphone! this is a game changer for reading braille for me. I have carpal > tunnel. I can’t push that advance button thousands of times, plus the orbit > doesn’t update with mac. it’s not something I would *ever* buy. > > On Oct 20, 2018, at 2:17 PM, > wrote: > > The orbit reader does not auto-scroll nor would I want it to. It functions as > a simple note taker which is just we've been wanting for years. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
this is so much better than auto scroll on the actilino. it moves once your finger gets to the end of a line. it doesn’t move until then, and it works on the iphone! this is a game changer for reading braille for me. I have carpal tunnel. I can’t push that advance button thousands of times, plus the orbit doesn’t update with mac. it’s not something I would *ever* buy. On Oct 20, 2018, at 2:17 PM, wrote: The orbit reader does not auto-scroll nor would I want it to. It functions as a simple note taker which is just we've been wanting for years. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Auto Scroll with braille display
The orbit reader does not auto-scroll nor would I want it to. It functions as a simple note taker which is just we've been wanting for years. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 1:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Auto Scroll with braille display you don’t have to use it of course. I don’t. :) it’s cool if someone wants to, but I can’t see why they would imo. On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: Wow! Thank you for that information. I had not heard of the Actolino. It sounds very interesting, minus the audio. That part does not interest me at all. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
you don’t have to use it of course. I don’t. :) it’s cool if someone wants to, but I can’t see why they would imo. On Oct 20, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: Wow! Thank you for that information. I had not heard of the Actolino. It sounds very interesting, minus the audio. That part does not interest me at all. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
atures are added in the manual as they become available, and are easy to find. Even the core feature set with the Actilino's documentation lacks some commands such as the one for enabling Mobile ATC. Another example is that the audio interface is located in its own section (4.2), which is far below the section on connecting an iPhone through VoiceOver (section 2.7). Product Information Product: VarioUltra 20 Available from: Baum Retec Price: $2,395 Product: Actilino Available from: Triumph Technologies Price: $2,495 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Traci Duncan Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Auto Scroll with braille display Is auto scroll all it is cracked up to be? Do any braille displays offer this feature on the iPhones? I was just reading about the braille Me, which has auto scroll, but I get a sense it is only for the stand alone book and document reader. Ive not experienced auto scrolling, but it seems to me, this would be the most effective way to read a long document or book 14 or 20 cells at a time. The concept sounds amazing. Braille scrolling beneath my fingers as I read. Makes me think of a ticker tape. For those of you familiar, could you tell me more. Suggest other braille display models. Thank you, Traci -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C8c2dee904c8945270f3a08d636af054e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636756522663429607=yCKN%2F1c%2BcolxmEJXqtjNRToqm0r58L043Hf0nUJHnAU%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphone=02%7C01%7C%7C8c2dee904c8945270f3a08d636af054e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636756522663429607=ykjEzhpTi6S6bZX2xqlS7b8pcRfS34QCK4TNYrJr22g%3D=0>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Foptout=02%7C01%7C%7C8c2dee904c8945270f3a08d636af054e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636756522663429607=Y0WarMXmpW8oe2nRV%2BXfQNAgW6EiKTdLaM9R%2BHUe%2B8E%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C8c2dee904c8945270f3a08d636af054e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636756522663429607=yCKN%2F1c%2BcolxmEJXqtjNRToqm0r58L043Hf0nUJHnAU%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphone=02%7C01%7C%7C8c2dee904c8945270f3a08d636af054e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636756522663
Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
lle forward, pressing straight >>> down on the left button will activate the Delete key, and pressing down on >>> the >>> right triple-action key will activate the Enter key. Again, it's possible >>> to remap these functions with iOS 11. >>> >>> The Case >>> >>> The Actilino comes with a case that fits the device well. The case has a >>> magnet inside of it that secures the Actilino. The magnet in the case came >>> unglued >>> in the first one I had, but the Actilino still feels secure even when I'm >>> moving around. When opened, the case provides access to all features and >>> functions, >>> so you can use it on the go. >>> >>> Miscellaneous >>> >>> Battery life varies dramatically depending on how you use the Actilino. If >>> you are always connected with both audio and braille to a Bluetooth device, >>> your battery isn't likely to last very long compared to when the device is >>> functioning only as a standalone notetaker. I have found that battery life, >>> when used mainly with PC mode, is around 25 hours. Unlike the VarioUltra, >>> the Actilino does not see a large decrease in battery life when it is >>> unplugged >>> and turned off. >>> >>> Charging is done through a proprietary plug that has a magnet on one end >>> and a standard type A USB plug on the other. However, the connection >>> doesn't have >>> to be proprietary, the magnetic connector on the Actilino can be pulled off >>> to be a Micro USB plug so that it works with all Micro USB cables. This >>> information >>> is not available in the manual, it was something Triomph kindly provided to >>> me when I asked about it. It's great that Handy Tech has not only designed >>> something that can fit on the device no matter which direction the cable is >>> facing, but they have also given the user the option of removing the >>> proprietary >>> part if desired. You will need a good set of fingernails to do so (and the >>> manufacturer does not recommend removing the proprietary plug), but I >>> managed >>> to remove it and the result works well for me. >>> >>> When comparing user documentation, I found the VarioUltra >>> to have the most readable and complete documentation of the two devices. >>> New features are added in the manual as they become available, and are easy >>> to >>> find. Even the core feature set with the >>> Actilino's documentation >>> lacks some commands such as the one for enabling Mobile ATC. Another >>> example is that the audio interface is located in its own section (4.2), >>> which is >>> far below the section on connecting an iPhone through VoiceOver (section >>> 2.7). >>> >>> Product Information >>> >>> Product: VarioUltra 20 >>> Available from: Baum Retec >>> Price: $2,395 >>> >>> Product: Actilino >>> Available from: Triumph Technologies >>> Price: $2,495 >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> Traci Duncan >>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 8:21 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Auto Scroll with braille display >>> >>> Is auto scroll all it is cracked up to be? Do any braille displays offer >>> this feature on the iPhones? >>> >>> I was just reading about the braille Me, which has auto scroll, but I get a >>> sense it is only for the stand alone book and document reader. >>> >>> Ive not experienced auto scrolling, but it seems to me, this would be the >>> most effective way to read a long document or book 14 or 20 cells at a >>> time. The concept sounds amazing. Braille scrolling beneath my fingers as >>> I read. Makes me think of a ticker tape. >>> >>> For those of you familiar, could you tell me more. Suggest other braille >>> display models. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Traci >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list modera
Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
to be proprietary, the magnetic connector on the Actilino can be pulled off >> to be a Micro USB plug so that it works with all Micro USB cables. This >> information >> is not available in the manual, it was something Triomph kindly provided to >> me when I asked about it. It's great that Handy Tech has not only designed >> something that can fit on the device no matter which direction the cable is >> facing, but they have also given the user the option of removing the >> proprietary >> part if desired. You will need a good set of fingernails to do so (and the >> manufacturer does not recommend removing the proprietary plug), but I managed >> to remove it and the result works well for me. >> >> When comparing user documentation, I found the VarioUltra >> to have the most readable and complete documentation of the two devices. New >> features are added in the manual as they become available, and are easy to >> find. Even the core feature set with the >> Actilino's documentation >> lacks some commands such as the one for enabling Mobile ATC. Another example >> is that the audio interface is located in its own section (4.2), which is >> far below the section on connecting an iPhone through VoiceOver (section >> 2.7). >> >> Product Information >> >> Product: VarioUltra 20 >> Available from: Baum Retec >> Price: $2,395 >> >> Product: Actilino >> Available from: Triumph Technologies >> Price: $2,495 >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Traci >> Duncan >> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 8:21 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Auto Scroll with braille display >> >> Is auto scroll all it is cracked up to be? Do any braille displays offer >> this feature on the iPhones? >> >> I was just reading about the braille Me, which has auto scroll, but I get a >> sense it is only for the stand alone book and document reader. >> >> Ive not experienced auto scrolling, but it seems to me, this would be the >> most effective way to read a long document or book 14 or 20 cells at a time. >> The concept sounds amazing. Braille scrolling beneath my fingers as I read. >> Makes me think of a ticker tape. >> >> For those of you familiar, could you tell me more. Suggest other braille >> display models. >> >> Thank you, >> Traci >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
the actilino has something like it. it scrolls based on the position of your finger, and it works with the iphone, and it is awesome. On Oct 20, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Lelia Struve wrote: I think that because of the iPhone it doesn’t auto scroll which is too bad because I really wish that we could have that do that. Lelia Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 20, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: > > Is auto scroll all it is cracked up to be? Do any braille displays offer this > feature on the iPhones? > > I was just reading about the braille Me, which has auto scroll, but I get a > sense it is only for the stand alone book and document reader. > > Ive not experienced auto scrolling, but it seems to me, this would be the > most effective way to read a long document or book 14 or 20 cells at a time. > The concept sounds amazing. Braille scrolling beneath my fingers as I read. > Makes me think of a ticker tape. > > For those of you familiar, could you tell me more. Suggest other braille > display models. > > Thank you, > Traci > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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quality leaves a bit to be desired when piped through > the Actilino's internal speakers. However, just like food and braille > keyboards, > the point could be made that audio quality is subjective. I found that > VoiceOver sounded a bit wobbly through the internal speakers, but found it > worked > well when connected to speakers or headphones through the 3.5 mm jack. > Interestingly, the VoiceOver lag, which is present with all Bluetooth > devices, seems > to be a bit less. Most importantly, I found that audio is not cut off when > there is a pause and audio resumes playing. For those using an iPhone 7 or > later, > this feature may come in handy if you want to use a 3.5 mm plug to connect to > an external sound source. I also noticed that the braille display didn't > suffer any sort of lag when there were two connections to the same device. > During a test FaceTime call, the person on the other end sounded very clear > through external speakers, but they reported that my audio sounded a bit > "crackly". > > Hiccups remain with the audio interface. For example, I turned the Actilino > off and back on, and even though I re-enabled the audio interface, I found > that the connection was no longer stable. I had to forget the Actilino's > audio connection to my iPhone and then re-establish it to stabilize the > connection. > In defense of Help Tech, the Actilino is a relatively new device, appearing > on the US market in June of 2017. This may simply be a bug that will be > addressed > in a future firmware release. > > Time Keeps On Ticking > > When powering on the Actilino, you will find the name of the device along > with the current time. This can be easier to check than having to wait for > your > braille display to connect to your iPhone, so while it's a minor detail, I > found it helpful. Sometimes, all I need to know is the current time, and this > is easily determined on the Actilino. > > Triple-Action Keys > > The manual calls these "triple-action keys" because they can be pressed in > one of three ways. On iOS, pressing them away from you pans the braille > backward, > pressing either one toward you pans the braille forward, pressing straight > down on the left button will activate the Delete key, and pressing down on the > right triple-action key will activate the Enter key. Again, it's possible to > remap these functions with iOS 11. > > The Case > > The Actilino comes with a case that fits the device well. The case has a > magnet inside of it that secures the Actilino. The magnet in the case came > unglued > in the first one I had, but the Actilino still feels secure even when I'm > moving around. When opened, the case provides access to all features and > functions, > so you can use it on the go. > > Miscellaneous > > Battery life varies dramatically depending on how you use the Actilino. If > you are always connected with both audio and braille to a Bluetooth device, > your battery isn't likely to last very long compared to when the device is > functioning only as a standalone notetaker. I have found that battery life, > when used mainly with PC mode, is around 25 hours. Unlike the VarioUltra, the > Actilino does not see a large decrease in battery life when it is unplugged > and turned off. > > Charging is done through a proprietary plug that has a magnet on one end and > a standard type A USB plug on the other. However, the connection doesn't have > to be proprietary, the magnetic connector on the Actilino can be pulled off > to be a Micro USB plug so that it works with all Micro USB cables. This > information > is not available in the manual, it was something Triomph kindly provided to > me when I asked about it. It's great that Handy Tech has not only designed > something that can fit on the device no matter which direction the cable is > facing, but they have also given the user the option of removing the > proprietary > part if desired. You will need a good set of fingernails to do so (and the > manufacturer does not recommend removing the proprietary plug), but I managed > to remove it and the result works well for me. > > When comparing user documentation, I found the VarioUltra > to have the most readable and complete documentation of the two devices. New > features are added in the manual as they become available, and are easy to > find. Even the core feature set with the > Actilino's documentation > lacks some commands such as the one for enabling Mobile ATC. Another example > is that the audio interface is located in its own section (4.2), which is > far below the section on connecting an iPhone through VoiceOver (section 2.7). > > Product Informatio
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> the Actilino's internal speakers. However, just like food and braille > keyboards, > the point could be made that audio quality is subjective. I found that > VoiceOver sounded a bit wobbly through the internal speakers, but found it > worked > well when connected to speakers or headphones through the 3.5 mm jack. > Interestingly, the VoiceOver lag, which is present with all Bluetooth > devices, seems > to be a bit less. Most importantly, I found that audio is not cut off when > there is a pause and audio resumes playing. For those using an iPhone 7 or > later, > this feature may come in handy if you want to use a 3.5 mm plug to connect to > an external sound source. I also noticed that the braille display didn't > suffer any sort of lag when there were two connections to the same device. > During a test FaceTime call, the person on the other end sounded very clear > through external speakers, but they reported that my audio sounded a bit > "crackly". > > Hiccups remain with the audio interface. For example, I turned the Actilino > off and back on, and even though I re-enabled the audio interface, I found > that the connection was no longer stable. I had to forget the Actilino's > audio connection to my iPhone and then re-establish it to stabilize the > connection. > In defense of Help Tech, the Actilino is a relatively new device, appearing > on the US market in June of 2017. This may simply be a bug that will be > addressed > in a future firmware release. > > Time Keeps On Ticking > > When powering on the Actilino, you will find the name of the device along > with the current time. This can be easier to check than having to wait for > your > braille display to connect to your iPhone, so while it's a minor detail, I > found it helpful. Sometimes, all I need to know is the current time, and this > is easily determined on the Actilino. > > Triple-Action Keys > > The manual calls these "triple-action keys" because they can be pressed in > one of three ways. On iOS, pressing them away from you pans the braille > backward, > pressing either one toward you pans the braille forward, pressing straight > down on the left button will activate the Delete key, and pressing down on the > right triple-action key will activate the Enter key. Again, it's possible to > remap these functions with iOS 11. > > The Case > > The Actilino comes with a case that fits the device well. The case has a > magnet inside of it that secures the Actilino. The magnet in the case came > unglued > in the first one I had, but the Actilino still feels secure even when I'm > moving around. When opened, the case provides access to all features and > functions, > so you can use it on the go. > > Miscellaneous > > Battery life varies dramatically depending on how you use the Actilino. If > you are always connected with both audio and braille to a Bluetooth device, > your battery isn't likely to last very long compared to when the device is > functioning only as a standalone notetaker. I have found that battery life, > when used mainly with PC mode, is around 25 hours. Unlike the VarioUltra, the > Actilino does not see a large decrease in battery life when it is unplugged > and turned off. > > Charging is done through a proprietary plug that has a magnet on one end and > a standard type A USB plug on the other. However, the connection doesn't have > to be proprietary, the magnetic connector on the Actilino can be pulled off > to be a Micro USB plug so that it works with all Micro USB cables. This > information > is not available in the manual, it was something Triomph kindly provided to > me when I asked about it. It's great that Handy Tech has not only designed > something that can fit on the device no matter which direction the cable is > facing, but they have also given the user the option of removing the > proprietary > part if desired. You will need a good set of fingernails to do so (and the > manufacturer does not recommend removing the proprietary plug), but I managed > to remove it and the result works well for me. > > When comparing user documentation, I found the VarioUltra > to have the most readable and complete documentation of the two devices. New > features are added in the manual as they become available, and are easy to > find. Even the core feature set with the > Actilino's documentation > lacks some commands such as the one for enabling Mobile ATC. Another example > is that the audio interface is located in its own section (4.2), which is > far below the section on connecting an iPhone through VoiceOver (section 2.7). > > Product Information > > Product: VarioUltra 20 > Avail
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tilino's audio connection to my iPhone and then re-establish it to stabilize the connection. In defense of Help Tech, the Actilino is a relatively new device, appearing on the US market in June of 2017. This may simply be a bug that will be addressed in a future firmware release. Time Keeps On Ticking When powering on the Actilino, you will find the name of the device along with the current time. This can be easier to check than having to wait for your braille display to connect to your iPhone, so while it's a minor detail, I found it helpful. Sometimes, all I need to know is the current time, and this is easily determined on the Actilino. Triple-Action Keys The manual calls these "triple-action keys" because they can be pressed in one of three ways. On iOS, pressing them away from you pans the braille backward, pressing either one toward you pans the braille forward, pressing straight down on the left button will activate the Delete key, and pressing down on the right triple-action key will activate the Enter key. Again, it's possible to remap these functions with iOS 11. The Case The Actilino comes with a case that fits the device well. The case has a magnet inside of it that secures the Actilino. The magnet in the case came unglued in the first one I had, but the Actilino still feels secure even when I'm moving around. When opened, the case provides access to all features and functions, so you can use it on the go. Miscellaneous Battery life varies dramatically depending on how you use the Actilino. If you are always connected with both audio and braille to a Bluetooth device, your battery isn't likely to last very long compared to when the device is functioning only as a standalone notetaker. I have found that battery life, when used mainly with PC mode, is around 25 hours. Unlike the VarioUltra, the Actilino does not see a large decrease in battery life when it is unplugged and turned off. Charging is done through a proprietary plug that has a magnet on one end and a standard type A USB plug on the other. However, the connection doesn't have to be proprietary, the magnetic connector on the Actilino can be pulled off to be a Micro USB plug so that it works with all Micro USB cables. This information is not available in the manual, it was something Triomph kindly provided to me when I asked about it. It's great that Handy Tech has not only designed something that can fit on the device no matter which direction the cable is facing, but they have also given the user the option of removing the proprietary part if desired. You will need a good set of fingernails to do so (and the manufacturer does not recommend removing the proprietary plug), but I managed to remove it and the result works well for me. When comparing user documentation, I found the VarioUltra to have the most readable and complete documentation of the two devices. New features are added in the manual as they become available, and are easy to find. Even the core feature set with the Actilino's documentation lacks some commands such as the one for enabling Mobile ATC. Another example is that the audio interface is located in its own section (4.2), which is far below the section on connecting an iPhone through VoiceOver (section 2.7). Product Information Product: VarioUltra 20 Available from: Baum Retec Price: $2,395 Product: Actilino Available from: Triumph Technologies Price: $2,495 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Traci Duncan Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Auto Scroll with braille display Is auto scroll all it is cracked up to be? Do any braille displays offer this feature on the iPhones? I was just reading about the braille Me, which has auto scroll, but I get a sense it is only for the stand alone book and document reader. Ive not experienced auto scrolling, but it seems to me, this would be the most effective way to read a long document or book 14 or 20 cells at a time. The concept sounds amazing. Braille scrolling beneath my fingers as I read. Makes me think of a ticker tape. For those of you familiar, could you tell me more. Suggest other braille display models. Thank you, Traci -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
Re: Auto Scroll with braille display
I think that because of the iPhone it doesn’t auto scroll which is too bad because I really wish that we could have that do that. Lelia Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 20, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: > > Is auto scroll all it is cracked up to be? Do any braille displays offer this > feature on the iPhones? > > I was just reading about the braille Me, which has auto scroll, but I get a > sense it is only for the stand alone book and document reader. > > Ive not experienced auto scrolling, but it seems to me, this would be the > most effective way to read a long document or book 14 or 20 cells at a time. > The concept sounds amazing. Braille scrolling beneath my fingers as I read. > Makes me think of a ticker tape. > > For those of you familiar, could you tell me more. Suggest other braille > display models. > > Thank you, > Traci > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Auto Scroll with braille display
Is auto scroll all it is cracked up to be? Do any braille displays offer this feature on the iPhones? I was just reading about the braille Me, which has auto scroll, but I get a sense it is only for the stand alone book and document reader. Ive not experienced auto scrolling, but it seems to me, this would be the most effective way to read a long document or book 14 or 20 cells at a time. The concept sounds amazing. Braille scrolling beneath my fingers as I read. Makes me think of a ticker tape. For those of you familiar, could you tell me more. Suggest other braille display models. Thank you, Traci -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
