Re: An IPhone/Braille Device question

[Duane Steele]

Thank you, Anna, for reminding me of a braille command I should have 
remembered, i.e. the space bar plus p for pausing unwanted speech. This sudden 
outburst of speech is a relatively new quirk when using an external keyboard 
like a Braille device. In fact just now I had it happen again. When it does, in 
case it should happen to others, and you press the space bar plup p, be sure 
and check to see where your cursor is before continuing to type, and then, if 
it's not where you last saw it, you can change the position before continuing 
to write. Again, Thanks to Anna for solving my dilemma with the Braille device. 


> 
> On Nov 4, 2021, at 3:23 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Duane,
> 
> Pressing P with Space is the same as tapping the screen with two fingers; it 
> starts and stops speaking. You can also press Space with M to mute speech, 
> and then use the same command to turn it back on.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2021, at 1:58 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>> I can't remember if this issue has been addressed. But when writing with my 
>> Braille display with speech on, sometimes it starts speaking and the only 
>> way to stop it is by pressing the space bar, which, of course moves the 
>> cursor away from where it should be. Is there any way to stop this sudden 
>> interruption when writing in Braille on my device? Thanks for any help with 
>> this strange problem.
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: An IPhone/Braille Device question

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Duane,

Pressing P with Space is the same as tapping the screen with two fingers; it 
starts and stops speaking. You can also press Space with M to mute speech, and 
then use the same command to turn it back on.

Best,
Anna


> On Nov 4, 2021, at 1:58 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> I can't remember if this issue has been addressed. But when writing with my 
> Braille display with speech on, sometimes it starts speaking and the only way 
> to stop it is by pressing the space bar, which, of course moves the cursor 
> away from where it should be. Is there any way to stop this sudden 
> interruption when writing in Braille on my device? Thanks for any help with 
> this strange problem.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
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An IPhone/Braille Device question

[Duane Steele]

Hello Listers,

I can't remember if this issue has been addressed. But when writing with my 
Braille display with speech on, sometimes it starts speaking and the only way 
to stop it is by pressing the space bar, which, of course moves the cursor away 
from where it should be. Is there any way to stop this sudden interruption when 
writing in Braille on my device? Thanks for any help with this strange problem.
 

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: A Braille Device Question

[Duane Steele]

Thank you, Richard, for that sage advice. Locking the phone and turning off the 
device and then unlocking the phone makes perfect sense. The TV APP is one of 
those that doesn't work in the locked screen. Don’t every just wish things like 
technology would actually get easier to use instead of creating more questions 
and issues? (frown) I trust everyone on this list is having a good day.


> 
> On Jul 26, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Dwayne,
> That is mostly user choice.
> But, remember that iPhones and braille displays have a fragile relationship.  
> You don't want to turn on or off the braille display unless the phone is 
> locked.
> Some movies/tv show apps stop playing when you lock the phone, well, they 
> pause.  IN any case, they often will continue with just a two finger double 
> tap even though the phone is locked.  So, try locking the phone, turning off 
> the display, then unlock the phone if necessary.
> You only really need the braille display on if you are reading captions.
> HTH, 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 8:31 AM
> To: IPhone List 
> Subject: A Braille Device Question
> 
> Hello iPhone Listers,
> 
> This may sound like a dumb question. With the new update, I find myself 
> relying more and more on my Braille device for all the functions on my phone. 
> My question is: If I use it to pull up a TV show or movie and start playing 
> it, should I then turn off the device to save battery, or just leave it on? 
> Thanks in advance for any practical suggestions.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: A Braille Device Question

[Richard Turner]

Dwayne,
That is mostly user choice.
But, remember that iPhones and braille displays have a fragile relationship.  
You don't want to turn on or off the braille display unless the phone is locked.
Some movies/tv show apps stop playing when you lock the phone, well, they 
pause.  IN any case, they often will continue with just a two finger double tap 
even though the phone is locked.  So, try locking the phone, turning off the 
display, then unlock the phone if necessary.
You only really need the braille display on if you are reading captions.
HTH, 


Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 8:31 AM
To: IPhone List 
Subject: A Braille Device Question

Hello iPhone Listers,

This may sound like a dumb question. With the new update, I find myself relying 
more and more on my Braille device for all the functions on my phone. My 
question is: If I use it to pull up a TV show or movie and start playing it, 
should I then turn off the device to save battery, or just leave it on? Thanks 
in advance for any practical suggestions.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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A Braille Device Question

[Duane Steele]

Hello iPhone Listers,

This may sound like a dumb question. With the new update, I find myself relying 
more and more on my Braille device for all the functions on my phone. My 
question is: If I use it to pull up a TV show or movie and start playing it, 
should I then turn off the device to save battery, or just leave it on? Thanks 
in advance for any practical suggestions.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

Peace & Blessings,
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Re: Braille device question.

[Jennie Facer]

I am coming here way late to this thread. Someone is trying to pair an apex 
with their phone. If zeros do not work, try ones.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On May 6, 2020, at 3:30 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Anna,
>  
> Thanks for your reply, I hope I find you well in these anxious times.
>  
> The Apex is the only device that he has attempted to pair with his new iPhone 
> SE2020.
>  
> The iPhone says to check the Apex is ready and the correct pairing code is 
> used.  We are using four 0’s and double-tapping the pair button at top left 
> of the iPhone’s display.
>  
> Any further suggestions most welcome.
>  
> Malcolm
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: 05 May 2020 23:14
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Braille device question.
>  
> Hi Malcolm,
>  
> Have you tried restarting both devices? Also, if they have ever installed 
> other braille displays, try forgetting them from VoiceOver/Braille Settings, 
> as the iPhone often has trouble connecting with one display if it's also 
> connected to others. Resetting the phone may also help.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
> 
> 
> On May 5, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>  
> Hello,
>  
> Firstly I have never used a Braille display with an iPhone but I am trying to 
> help a friend to do so.
>  
> I’m not sure whether he has tried to pair the display via the usual Bluetooth 
> route rather than via Voiceover there are no entries for the device on the 
> iPhone.
>  
> When we try to pair via Voiceover and Braille Apex is shown as expected and 
> entering the code we are  presented with a message that Pairing was 
> unsuccessful make sure Apex is ready.
>  
> I read the following from Applevis.
>  
> If you run out of time when typing the code, just try again. After three 
> attempts, you 
> will not be able to keep trying. To fix this, return to settings, general, 
> and this time 
> select Bluetooth. From there, select the Apex, then double tap the "forget 
> this device" 
> button. This should let you try three more times to pair, as instructed above.
> If the Apex does not appear when you scan for braille displays, check that 
> your Apex's 
> name is set properly (described above), make sure that Bluetooth is enabled 
> on both 
> devices, make sure that the Apex is in terminal mode, and make sure that you 
> had not 
> already tried several unsuccessful pairing attempts (you must forget the 
> Apex, as 
> described in the previous list item, if this is the case). Also, you must not 
> have used the 
> Apex's connectivity menu to try to pair or activate anything on the iTouch. 
> If you have 
> done this, you must remove pairing and deactivate all services from the 
> Apex's 
> Bluetooth menu, as described in the Apex manual.
>  
> Unfortunately I don’t have access to the manual or the device so don’t know 
> how to remove pairing and deactivate all services from the Apex's 
> Bluetooth menu.
>  
> Any help welcome.
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RE: Braille device question.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Anna,

 

Thanks for your reply, I hope I find you well in these anxious times.

 

The Apex is the only device that he has attempted to pair with his new iPhone 
SE2020.

 

The iPhone says to check the Apex is ready and the correct pairing code is 
used.  We are using four 0’s and double-tapping the pair button at top left of 
the iPhone’s display.

 

Any further suggestions most welcome.

 

Malcolm

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: 05 May 2020 23:14
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Braille device question.

 

Hi Malcolm,

 

Have you tried restarting both devices? Also, if they have ever installed other 
braille displays, try forgetting them from VoiceOver/Braille Settings, as the 
iPhone often has trouble connecting with one display if it's also connected to 
others. Resetting the phone may also help.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On May 5, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Malcolm Parfitt mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> > wrote:

 

Hello,

 

Firstly I have never used a Braille display with an iPhone but I am trying to 
help a friend to do so.

 

I’m not sure whether he has tried to pair the display via the usual Bluetooth 
route rather than via Voiceover there are no entries for the device on the 
iPhone.

 

When we try to pair via Voiceover and Braille Apex is shown as expected and 
entering the code we are  presented with a message that Pairing was 
unsuccessful make sure Apex is ready.

 

I read the following from Applevis.

 

If you run out of time when typing the code, just try again. After three 
attempts, you 

will not be able to keep trying. To fix this, return to settings, general, and 
this time 

select Bluetooth. From there, select the Apex, then double tap the "forget this 
device" 

button. This should let you try three more times to pair, as instructed above.

If the Apex does not appear when you scan for braille displays, check that your 
Apex's 

name is set properly (described above), make sure that Bluetooth is enabled on 
both 

devices, make sure that the Apex is in terminal mode, and make sure that you 
had not 

already tried several unsuccessful pairing attempts (you must forget the Apex, 
as 

described in the previous list item, if this is the case). Also, you must not 
have used the 

Apex's connectivity menu to try to pair or activate anything on the iTouch. If 
you have 

done this, you must remove pairing and deactivate all services from the Apex's 

Bluetooth menu, as described in the Apex manual.

 

Unfortunately I don’t have access to the manual or the device so don’t know how 
to remove pairing and deactivate all services from the Apex's 

Bluetooth menu.

 

Any help welcome.

 

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Re: Braille device question.

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Malcolm,

Have you tried restarting both devices? Also, if they have ever installed other 
braille displays, try forgetting them from VoiceOver/Braille Settings, as the 
iPhone often has trouble connecting with one display if it's also connected to 
others. Resetting the phone may also help.

Best,
Anna


> On May 5, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Firstly I have never used a Braille display with an iPhone but I am trying to 
> help a friend to do so.
>  
> I’m not sure whether he has tried to pair the display via the usual Bluetooth 
> route rather than via Voiceover there are no entries for the device on the 
> iPhone.
>  
> When we try to pair via Voiceover and Braille Apex is shown as expected and 
> entering the code we are  presented with a message that Pairing was 
> unsuccessful make sure Apex is ready.
>  
> I read the following from Applevis.
>  
> If you run out of time when typing the code, just try again. After three 
> attempts, you 
> will not be able to keep trying. To fix this, return to settings, general, 
> and this time 
> select Bluetooth. From there, select the Apex, then double tap the "forget 
> this device" 
> button. This should let you try three more times to pair, as instructed above.
> If the Apex does not appear when you scan for braille displays, check that 
> your Apex's 
> name is set properly (described above), make sure that Bluetooth is enabled 
> on both 
> devices, make sure that the Apex is in terminal mode, and make sure that you 
> had not 
> already tried several unsuccessful pairing attempts (you must forget the 
> Apex, as 
> described in the previous list item, if this is the case). Also, you must not 
> have used the 
> Apex's connectivity menu to try to pair or activate anything on the iTouch. 
> If you have 
> done this, you must remove pairing and deactivate all services from the 
> Apex's 
> Bluetooth menu, as described in the Apex manual.
>  
> Unfortunately I don’t have access to the manual or the device so don’t know 
> how to remove pairing and deactivate all services from the Apex's 
> Bluetooth menu.
>  
> Any help welcome.
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Braille device question.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

 

Firstly I have never used a Braille display with an iPhone but I am trying
to help a friend to do so.

 

I'm not sure whether he has tried to pair the display via the usual
Bluetooth route rather than via Voiceover there are no entries for the
device on the iPhone.

 

When we try to pair via Voiceover and Braille Apex is shown as expected and
entering the code we are  presented with a message that Pairing was
unsuccessful make sure Apex is ready.

 

I read the following from Applevis.

 

If you run out of time when typing the code, just try again. After three
attempts, you 

will not be able to keep trying. To fix this, return to settings, general,
and this time 

select Bluetooth. From there, select the Apex, then double tap the "forget
this device" 

button. This should let you try three more times to pair, as instructed
above.

If the Apex does not appear when you scan for braille displays, check that
your Apex's 

name is set properly (described above), make sure that Bluetooth is enabled
on both 

devices, make sure that the Apex is in terminal mode, and make sure that you
had not 

already tried several unsuccessful pairing attempts (you must forget the
Apex, as 

described in the previous list item, if this is the case). Also, you must
not have used the 

Apex's connectivity menu to try to pair or activate anything on the iTouch.
If you have 

done this, you must remove pairing and deactivate all services from the
Apex's 

Bluetooth menu, as described in the Apex manual.

 

Unfortunately I don't have access to the manual or the device so don't know
how to remove pairing and deactivate all services from the Apex's 

Bluetooth menu.

 

Any help welcome.

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Re: A braille device question

[brian albriton]

Try chord-b the command for back or escape the current context. This works on 
my focus 14: 
Hth

> On Sep 25, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
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> 
> I'm using a BrailleEdge 40.  Every once in a while, I accidentally find 
> myself pressing the space-bar and dots 1 and 3 and going into help mode.  I 
> know I can use the 4-finger double-tap on the phone to get out of the help 
> mode.  But is there a braille command for getting out of Help directly using 
> the Braille device, or is the double-tap command on the phone my only option. 
>  Thanks for any input on this minor issue.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
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Re: A braille device question

[Richard Turner]

Yes, space with b or dots 1,2, activates the back button which is pretty much 
hitting escape.
Glad it works and hopefully others will be helped by this.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 25, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

Richard, I took your suggestion and it worked.  The space-bar with dots 1 and 
2 works just like an escape key.  I don't know why I hadn't tried it before.  
Perhaps this will help someone else encountering this same dilemma.


Peace & Blessings,
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Phone (276) 730-5194

On Sep 25, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Try space with dots 1,2.



Richard

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Subject: A braille device question

Hello All,

I'm using a BrailleEdge 40.  Every once in a while, I accidentally find myself 
pressing the space-bar and dots 1 and 3 and going into help mode.  I know I can 
use the 4-finger double-tap on the phone to get out of the help mode.  But is 
there a braille command for getting out of Help directly using the Braille 
device, or is the double-tap command on the phone my only option.  Thanks for 
any input on this minor issue.


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Re: A braille device question

[Duane Steele]

Richard, I took your suggestion and it worked.  The space-bar with dots 1 and 2 
works just like an escape key.  I don't know why I hadn't tried it before.  
Perhaps this will help someone else encountering this same dilemma.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Sep 25, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Try space with dots 1,2.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
>  Live long and prosper
> 
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A braille device question
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I'm using a BrailleEdge 40.  Every once in a while, I accidentally find 
> myself pressing the space-bar and dots 1 and 3 and going into help mode.  I 
> know I can use the 4-finger double-tap on the phone to get out of the help 
> mode.  But is there a braille command for getting out of Help directly using 
> the Braille device, or is the double-tap command on the phone my only option. 
>  Thanks for any input on this minor issue.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
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Re: A braille device question

[Duane Steele]

Thanks Richard for the suggestion.  I know it says press the escape key.  
Unfortunately, there's no such key on the BrailleEdge.  I'll let you know if 
that doesn't work.  In spite of the huge amount of traffic on this list that I 
don't pay much attention to, I have learned a lot since recently joining this 
list, and I appreciate the work others put into finding out stuff.  I was glad 
to see all the response concerning the Country Music series which for me has 
become a love/hate series.  I'm thinking of writing an editorial post on my 
Facebook page which I'll gladly share with folks on this list who express 
interest in reading it, assuming I actually get it written.  You can message me 
off-list for this possible forthcoming document.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Sep 25, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Try space with dots 1,2.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A braille device question
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I'm using a BrailleEdge 40.  Every once in a while, I accidentally find 
> myself pressing the space-bar and dots 1 and 3 and going into help mode.  I 
> know I can use the 4-finger double-tap on the phone to get out of the help 
> mode.  But is there a braille command for getting out of Help directly using 
> the Braille device, or is the double-tap command on the phone my only option. 
>  Thanks for any input on this minor issue.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
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RE: A braille device question

[Richard Turner]

Try space with dots 1,2.



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Subject: A braille device question

Hello All,

I'm using a BrailleEdge 40.  Every once in a while, I accidentally find myself 
pressing the space-bar and dots 1 and 3 and going into help mode.  I know I can 
use the 4-finger double-tap on the phone to get out of the help mode.  But is 
there a braille command for getting out of Help directly using the Braille 
device, or is the double-tap command on the phone my only option.  Thanks for 
any input on this minor issue.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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A braille device question

[Duane Steele]

Hello All,

I'm using a BrailleEdge 40.  Every once in a while, I accidentally find myself 
pressing the space-bar and dots 1 and 3 and going into help mode.  I know I can 
use the 4-finger double-tap on the phone to get out of the help mode.  But is 
there a braille command for getting out of Help directly using the Braille 
device, or is the double-tap command on the phone my only option.  Thanks for 
any input on this minor issue.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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