Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
Hi all, I ended up restoring my phone in iTunes then restoring from a backup, and the problem was still not resolved. Then I tried resetting my settings by using SettingsGeneralResetReset all settings. This resolved the problem, so it would seem that my preferences became corrupt somehow. In any case, at least none of my data was lost, and I am now up and running. After performing the backup and before restoring my phone, I did try a force reset and this did not resolve the problem. Thanks all for the suggestions. Cheers, Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the bullet symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the bullet symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
I've never seen this. But, if you set it to a lower rate, then reboot the phone by holding the power and home buttons down together for 10 or 15 seconds, what happens? Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:26 AM To: Viphone List Subject: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the bullet symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
Well, I've never tried forcibly rebooting the phone as you've described. I would tend to reserve that for times when the phone is completely frozen and won't power off normally. However, when powering off the phone by holding down POWER for a couple of seconds then double-tapping on power off, the rate still hasn't changed when the phone is powered up again. Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I've never seen this. But, if you set it to a lower rate, then reboot the phone by holding the power and home buttons down together for 10 or 15 seconds, what happens? Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:26 AM To: Viphone List Subject: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the bullet symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
That is the recommended reboot method from Apple. Have you tried calling Apple Accessibility? They would be the most likely to have heard about this if it is a common problem. It sounds to me a little like the problem some people had with the volume getting stuck. Good luck, Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:43 AM To: Viphone List Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Well, I've never tried forcibly rebooting the phone as you've described. I would tend to reserve that for times when the phone is completely frozen and won't power off normally. However, when powering off the phone by holding down POWER for a couple of seconds then double-tapping on power off, the rate still hasn't changed when the phone is powered up again. Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote: I've never seen this. But, if you set it to a lower rate, then reboot the phone by holding the power and home buttons down together for 10 or 15 seconds, what happens? Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:26 AM To: Viphone List Subject: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the bullet symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr
Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
I'm not sure which method you're referring to but from http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1430 it says the following: How to restart Press and hold the Sleep/Wake button on the top of your device until the red slider appears. Then drag the slider to turn your device completely off. After the device turns off, press and hold the Sleep/Wake button again until you see the Apple logo. How to reset You should reset your device as a last resort and only if you can't restart it. To reset, press and hold both the Sleep/Wake and Home buttons for at least 10 seconds, until you see the Apple logo. On 08/16/2014 12:49 PM, Richard Turner wrote: That is the recommended reboot method from Apple. Have you tried calling Apple Accessibility? They would be the most likely to have heard about this if it is a common problem. It sounds to me a little like the problem some people had with the volume getting stuck. Good luck, Richard *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Grant Hardy *Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:43 AM *To:* Viphone List *Subject:* Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Well, I've never tried forcibly rebooting the phone as you've described. I would tend to reserve that for times when the phone is completely frozen and won't power off normally. However, when powering off the phone by holding down POWER for a couple of seconds then double-tapping on power off, the rate still hasn't changed when the phone is powered up again. Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote: I've never seen this. But, if you set it to a lower rate, then reboot the phone by holding the power and home buttons down together for 10 or 15 seconds, what happens? Richard *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On Behalf Of*Grant Hardy *Sent:*Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:26 AM *To:*Viphone List *Subject:*Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the bullet symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched athttp://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email toviph...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members
Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
I don't have a solution to your problem. I just wanted to say...Wow!!! I can't understand but every other word VO says when the speed is set to 100% Heck, my brain or ears can't even keep up to follow along with VO is saying. LOL! Wish I had your talent, it would make doing tasks on my device faster. 65% is the fastest speed that I'm able to go and still be able to understand VO and comprehend what I'm listening to VO reading to me. Donna On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that’s not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the “bullet” symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I’m not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
That is correct Chris. I like to think of the method of holding the POWER and HOME BUTTONS for ten seconds as analogous to unplugging a desktop computer or using some other means to force it to turn off when all normal shut down methods don't work. It is a last resort to unfreeze a device that won't reboot normally. In any case, I guess I could drop Apple Accessibility a line or try resetting my settings. I'll just have to decide whether my problem is really that big of a deal. I do like being able to slow down my speech rate from time to time to review something in detail. Thank you Christopher and Richard for the suggestions thus far. Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: You should reset your device as a last resort and only if you can't restart it. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
Thanks Donna! It definitely takes time to get used to listening to a voice that quickly, but if you're interested, you could try cranking up your rate a bit when you're just listening to system prompts (like opening the mail app and browsing to a folder) then slowing it down to read the actual content. Of course, this is assuming you can change your rate. :) Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't have a solution to your problem. I just wanted to say...Wow!!! I can't understand but every other word VO says when the speed is set to 100% Heck, my brain or ears can't even keep up to follow along with VO is saying. LOL! Wish I had your talent, it would make doing tasks on my device faster. 65% is the fastest speed that I'm able to go and still be able to understand VO and comprehend what I'm listening to VO reading to me. Donna On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the bullet symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
Rebooting the iDevice usually corrects such problems. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 17 Aug 2014, at 5:25, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that’s not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the “bullet” symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I’m not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
The skill is, developed by listening at the fastest speed comfortable until it becomes normal, then increase a little. do this repeatedly until 100% speed is achieved. I developed the skill several years ago, so 100% is a little slow for me. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 17 Aug 2014, at 6:23, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't have a solution to your problem. I just wanted to say...Wow!!! I can't understand but every other word VO says when the speed is set to 100% Heck, my brain or ears can't even keep up to follow along with VO is saying. LOL! Wish I had your talent, it would make doing tasks on my device faster. 65% is the fastest speed that I'm able to go and still be able to understand VO and comprehend what I'm listening to VO reading to me. Donna On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that’s not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the “bullet” symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I’m not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
Hi Grant, Doing a reset by holding the power and home buttons may not be something you want to do every day and shouldn't have to do, but it also won't hurt. It will definitely reset more things than a simply shutdown and reboot of the phone and in your case I'd try it. I would probably remove all apps from the app switcher and do a regular reboot, then do the reset and while it may not fix your problem, I highly doubt it would hurt anything just as pressing the reset key on a computer won't hurt anything either. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:30 AM To: Viphone List; Viphone List Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Thanks Donna! It definitely takes time to get used to listening to a voice that quickly, but if you're interested, you could try cranking up your rate a bit when you're just listening to system prompts (like opening the mail app and browsing to a folder) then slowing it down to read the actual content. Of course, this is assuming you can change your rate. :) Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't have a solution to your problem. I just wanted to say...Wow!!! I can't understand but every other word VO says when the speed is set to 100% Heck, my brain or ears can't even keep up to follow along with VO is saying. LOL! Wish I had your talent, it would make doing tasks on my device faster. 65% is the fastest speed that I'm able to go and still be able to understand VO and comprehend what I'm listening to VO reading to me. Donna On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com mailto:grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the bullet symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you
Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
Hi Sieghard, I don't, of course, have access to how Apple set this up internally, but it is my opinion that forcibly resetting an iOS device simply forces the system to cut the power so that the device can reboot. That is why it is a useful command to perform when you cannot power off the phone by any normal means. It is therefore my view that if you can reboot your device normally, this force-reset method won't achieve anything or reset anything that a normal reboot wouldn't. To use another analogy, if my desktop PC has a problem that is not resolved by rebooting, why would it be resolved by unplugging the power cord while the PC is powered up, causing an improper shut down? I know this topic has come up before and other listers don't agree with my view, and I am more than happy to stand corrected and admit that I am totally out to lunch on this one. However, based on my understanding of the force-reset method, I am fairly sure I am correct about this. Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, Doing a reset by holding the power and home buttons may not be something you want to do every day and shouldn't have to do, but it also won't hurt. It will definitely reset more things than a simply shutdown and reboot of the phone and in your case I'd try it. I would probably remove all apps from the app switcher and do a regular reboot, then do the reset and while it may not fix your problem, I highly doubt it would hurt anything just as pressing the reset key on a computer won't hurt anything either. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:30 AM To: Viphone List; Viphone List Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Thanks Donna! It definitely takes time to get used to listening to a voice that quickly, but if you're interested, you could try cranking up your rate a bit when you're just listening to system prompts (like opening the mail app and browsing to a folder) then slowing it down to read the actual content. Of course, this is assuming you can change your rate. :) Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't have a solution to your problem. I just wanted to say...Wow!!! I can't understand but every other word VO says when the speed is set to 100% Heck, my brain or ears can't even keep up to follow along with VO is saying. LOL! Wish I had your talent, it would make doing tasks on my device faster. 65% is the fastest speed that I'm able to go and still be able to understand VO and comprehend what I'm listening to VO reading to me. Donna On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the bullet symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail
Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
The reboot does more than the shut-down. I am not aware of everything it does, but one thing reboot does is clear and rebuild the driver stacks, such as bluetooth and wifi. I suspect it also rebuilds the VO driver stacks. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 17 Aug 2014, at 9:05, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Sieghard, I don't, of course, have access to how Apple set this up internally, but it is my opinion that forcibly resetting an iOS device simply forces the system to cut the power so that the device can reboot. That is why it is a useful command to perform when you cannot power off the phone by any normal means. It is therefore my view that if you can reboot your device normally, this force-reset method won’t achieve anything or reset anything that a normal reboot wouldn’t. To use another analogy, if my desktop PC has a problem that is not resolved by rebooting, why would it be resolved by unplugging the power cord while the PC is powered up, causing an improper shut down? I know this topic has come up before and other listers don’t agree with my view, and I am more than happy to stand corrected and admit that I am totally out to lunch on this one. However, based on my understanding of the force-reset method, I am fairly sure I am correct about this. Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, Doing a reset by holding the power and home buttons may not be something you want to do every day and shouldn’t have to do, but it also won’t hurt. It will definitely reset more things than a simply shutdown and reboot of the phone and in your case I’d try it. I would probably remove all apps from the app switcher and do a regular reboot, then do the reset and while it may not fix your problem, I highly doubt it would hurt anything just as pressing the reset key on a computer won’t hurt anything either. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:30 AM To: Viphone List; Viphone List Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Thanks Donna! It definitely takes time to get used to listening to a voice that quickly, but if you’re interested, you could try cranking up your rate a bit when you’re just listening to system prompts (like opening the mail app and browsing to a folder) then slowing it down to read the actual content. Of course, this is assuming you can change your rate. :) Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't have a solution to your problem. I just wanted to say...Wow!!! I can't understand but every other word VO says when the speed is set to 100% Heck, my brain or ears can't even keep up to follow along with VO is saying. LOL! Wish I had your talent, it would make doing tasks on my device faster. 65% is the fastest speed that I'm able to go and still be able to understand VO and comprehend what I'm listening to VO reading to me. Donna On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that’s not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the “bullet” symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I’m not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout
Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
If I may say so, your PC analogy is misleading. You don't unplug your PC when using the reset switch. On some mobile phones that i know of, and indeed other small memory-aware devices, when power is off, taking the battery out and reinserting it, will cause them to reset. (that is probably not possible in Apple's case, so the reset will function a bit differently.) Perhaps the device 'thinks' it was shut down properly, but, in reality, it wasn't. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy To: Viphone List Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:05 PM Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Hi Sieghard, I don't, of course, have access to how Apple set this up internally, but it is my opinion that forcibly resetting an iOS device simply forces the system to cut the power so that the device can reboot. That is why it is a useful command to perform when you cannot power off the phone by any normal means. It is therefore my view that if you can reboot your device normally, this force-reset method won't achieve anything or reset anything that a normal reboot wouldn't. To use another analogy, if my desktop PC has a problem that is not resolved by rebooting, why would it be resolved by unplugging the power cord while the PC is powered up, causing an improper shut down? I know this topic has come up before and other listers don't agree with my view, and I am more than happy to stand corrected and admit that I am totally out to lunch on this one. However, based on my understanding of the force-reset method, I am fairly sure I am correct about this. Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, Doing a reset by holding the power and home buttons may not be something you want to do every day and shouldn't have to do, but it also won't hurt. It will definitely reset more things than a simply shutdown and reboot of the phone and in your case I'd try it. I would probably remove all apps from the app switcher and do a regular reboot, then do the reset and while it may not fix your problem, I highly doubt it would hurt anything just as pressing the reset key on a computer won't hurt anything either. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:30 AM To: Viphone List; Viphone List Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Thanks Donna! It definitely takes time to get used to listening to a voice that quickly, but if you're interested, you could try cranking up your rate a bit when you're just listening to system prompts (like opening the mail app and browsing to a folder) then slowing it down to read the actual content. Of course, this is assuming you can change your rate. :) Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't have a solution to your problem. I just wanted to say...Wow!!! I can't understand but every other word VO says when the speed is set to 100% Heck, my brain or ears can't even keep up to follow along with VO is saying. LOL! Wish I had your talent, it would make doing tasks on my device faster. 65% is the fastest speed that I'm able to go and still be able to understand VO and comprehend what I'm listening to VO reading to me. Donna On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the bullet symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
Hi Flor, my point was that all those methods (unplugging a PC then plugging it back in, pressing the RESET button, holding POWER down for a few seconds) force the PC to shut down improperly. In other words, you are responding to a situation where you cannot properly shut down the computer through the user interface (e.g. the PC has frozen). I've yet to find a situation where a normal reboot doesn't resolve something, but an improper shut down does. You are thinking about some older phones and PDAs that stored user data in RAM. In those cases, when you removed the battery, this would cause the RAM to be erased meaning that you would have initialized the entire system. Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: If I may say so, your PC analogy is misleading. You don't unplug your PC when using the reset switch. On some mobile phones that i know of, and indeed other small memory-aware devices, when power is off, taking the battery out and reinserting it, will cause them to reset. (that is probably not possible in Apple's case, so the reset will function a bit differently.) Perhaps the device 'thinks' it was shut down properly, but, in reality, it wasn't. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy To: Viphone List Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:05 PM Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Hi Sieghard, I don't, of course, have access to how Apple set this up internally, but it is my opinion that forcibly resetting an iOS device simply forces the system to cut the power so that the device can reboot. That is why it is a useful command to perform when you cannot power off the phone by any normal means. It is therefore my view that if you can reboot your device normally, this force-reset method won't achieve anything or reset anything that a normal reboot wouldn't. To use another analogy, if my desktop PC has a problem that is not resolved by rebooting, why would it be resolved by unplugging the power cord while the PC is powered up, causing an improper shut down? I know this topic has come up before and other listers don't agree with my view, and I am more than happy to stand corrected and admit that I am totally out to lunch on this one. However, based on my understanding of the force-reset method, I am fairly sure I am correct about this. Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, Doing a reset by holding the power and home buttons may not be something you want to do every day and shouldn't have to do, but it also won't hurt. It will definitely reset more things than a simply shutdown and reboot of the phone and in your case I'd try it. I would probably remove all apps from the app switcher and do a regular reboot, then do the reset and while it may not fix your problem, I highly doubt it would hurt anything just as pressing the reset key on a computer won't hurt anything either. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:30 AM To: Viphone List; Viphone List Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Thanks Donna! It definitely takes time to get used to listening to a voice that quickly, but if you're interested, you could try cranking up your rate a bit when you're just listening to system prompts (like opening the mail app and browsing to a folder) then slowing it down to read the actual content. Of course, this is assuming you can change your rate. :) Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't have a solution to your problem. I just wanted to say...Wow!!! I can't understand but every other word VO says when the speed is set to 100% Heck, my brain or ears can't even keep up to follow along with VO is saying. LOL! Wish I had your talent, it would make doing tasks on my device faster. 65% is the fastest speed that I'm able to go and still be able to understand VO and comprehend what I'm listening to VO reading to me. Donna On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the bullet symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has
Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate
Hi David, That may be the case, but is this documented anywhere that you know of? In any case, I've no qualms about admitting I was wrong if it does more than force a shut down. Cheers, Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:22 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: The reboot does more than the shut-down. I am not aware of everything it does, but one thing reboot does is clear and rebuild the driver stacks, such as bluetooth and wifi. I suspect it also rebuilds the VO driver stacks. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 17 Aug 2014, at 9:05, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Sieghard, I don't, of course, have access to how Apple set this up internally, but it is my opinion that forcibly resetting an iOS device simply forces the system to cut the power so that the device can reboot. That is why it is a useful command to perform when you cannot power off the phone by any normal means. It is therefore my view that if you can reboot your device normally, this force-reset method won't achieve anything or reset anything that a normal reboot wouldn't. To use another analogy, if my desktop PC has a problem that is not resolved by rebooting, why would it be resolved by unplugging the power cord while the PC is powered up, causing an improper shut down? I know this topic has come up before and other listers don't agree with my view, and I am more than happy to stand corrected and admit that I am totally out to lunch on this one. However, based on my understanding of the force-reset method, I am fairly sure I am correct about this. Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, Doing a reset by holding the power and home buttons may not be something you want to do every day and shouldn't have to do, but it also won't hurt. It will definitely reset more things than a simply shutdown and reboot of the phone and in your case I'd try it. I would probably remove all apps from the app switcher and do a regular reboot, then do the reset and while it may not fix your problem, I highly doubt it would hurt anything just as pressing the reset key on a computer won't hurt anything either. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:30 AM To: Viphone List; Viphone List Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Thanks Donna! It definitely takes time to get used to listening to a voice that quickly, but if you're interested, you could try cranking up your rate a bit when you're just listening to system prompts (like opening the mail app and browsing to a folder) then slowing it down to read the actual content. Of course, this is assuming you can change your rate. :) Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't have a solution to your problem. I just wanted to say...Wow!!! I can't understand but every other word VO says when the speed is set to 100% Heck, my brain or ears can't even keep up to follow along with VO is saying. LOL! Wish I had your talent, it would make doing tasks on my device faster. 65% is the fastest speed that I'm able to go and still be able to understand VO and comprehend what I'm listening to VO reading to me. Donna On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that's not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the bullet symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I'm not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
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Un`fortunately, I do not remember where I read this information. It was a few years ago. That said, It came from a reputable source of technology info. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 17 Aug 2014, at 9:35, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi David, That may be the case, but is this documented anywhere that you know of? In any case, I’ve no qualms about admitting I was wrong if it does more than force a shut down. Cheers, Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:22 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: The reboot does more than the shut-down. I am not aware of everything it does, but one thing reboot does is clear and rebuild the driver stacks, such as bluetooth and wifi. I suspect it also rebuilds the VO driver stacks. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 17 Aug 2014, at 9:05, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Sieghard, I don't, of course, have access to how Apple set this up internally, but it is my opinion that forcibly resetting an iOS device simply forces the system to cut the power so that the device can reboot. That is why it is a useful command to perform when you cannot power off the phone by any normal means. It is therefore my view that if you can reboot your device normally, this force-reset method won’t achieve anything or reset anything that a normal reboot wouldn’t. To use another analogy, if my desktop PC has a problem that is not resolved by rebooting, why would it be resolved by unplugging the power cord while the PC is powered up, causing an improper shut down? I know this topic has come up before and other listers don’t agree with my view, and I am more than happy to stand corrected and admit that I am totally out to lunch on this one. However, based on my understanding of the force-reset method, I am fairly sure I am correct about this. Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, Doing a reset by holding the power and home buttons may not be something you want to do every day and shouldn’t have to do, but it also won’t hurt. It will definitely reset more things than a simply shutdown and reboot of the phone and in your case I’d try it. I would probably remove all apps from the app switcher and do a regular reboot, then do the reset and while it may not fix your problem, I highly doubt it would hurt anything just as pressing the reset key on a computer won’t hurt anything either. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:30 AM To: Viphone List; Viphone List Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Thanks Donna! It definitely takes time to get used to listening to a voice that quickly, but if you’re interested, you could try cranking up your rate a bit when you’re just listening to system prompts (like opening the mail app and browsing to a folder) then slowing it down to read the actual content. Of course, this is assuming you can change your rate. :) Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't have a solution to your problem. I just wanted to say...Wow!!! I can't understand but every other word VO says when the speed is set to 100% Heck, my brain or ears can't even keep up to follow along with VO is saying. LOL! Wish I had your talent, it would make doing tasks on my device faster. 65% is the fastest speed that I'm able to go and still be able to understand VO and comprehend what I'm listening to VO reading to me. Donna On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered that it is in fact stuck there. Adjusting it from the rotor, or from the VO preferences page, has no effect. Actually, that’s not entirely true; VO occasionally announces something using the lower rate, but otherwise sticks to 100%. For example, if I am moving through a bulleted list on a web page, VO announces the “bullet” symbol in whatever speech rate I have set, but then reverts to 100% to read the rest of the text. I am using iOS 7.1.2 with an iPhone 5S and the default U.S. English voice. I’m not sure that this is a big enough deal to warrant extensive troubleshooting (e.g. restoring the phone or resetting all settings), but I wanted to inquire whether anyone has ever had a similar problem or has any tips. Thanks, Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate
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Thanks David. This could well be true but it could also be the case that they were simply providing one easy way of doing that. According to support instructions provided by Jawbone for a Bluetooth headset, for example, simply turning Bluetooth off then on again resets the Bluetooth driver stack. Given this, I wonder whether a normal, soft reset would also do the same thing. https://jawbone.com/kb/articles/318.html In any case, I agree with Sieghard that a force-reset is unlikely to harm anything. Cheers, Grant From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: August 16, 2014 2:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Un`fortunately, I do not remember where I read this information. It was a few years ago. That said, It came from a reputable source of technology info. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 17 Aug 2014, at 9:35, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com mailto:grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi David, That may be the case, but is this documented anywhere that you know of? In any case, I’ve no qualms about admitting I was wrong if it does more than force a shut down. Cheers, Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:22 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: The reboot does more than the shut-down. I am not aware of everything it does, but one thing reboot does is clear and rebuild the driver stacks, such as bluetooth and wifi. I suspect it also rebuilds the VO driver stacks. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 17 Aug 2014, at 9:05, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com mailto:grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Sieghard, I don't, of course, have access to how Apple set this up internally, but it is my opinion that forcibly resetting an iOS device simply forces the system to cut the power so that the device can reboot. That is why it is a useful command to perform when you cannot power off the phone by any normal means. It is therefore my view that if you can reboot your device normally, this force-reset method won’t achieve anything or reset anything that a normal reboot wouldn’t. To use another analogy, if my desktop PC has a problem that is not resolved by rebooting, why would it be resolved by unplugging the power cord while the PC is powered up, causing an improper shut down? I know this topic has come up before and other listers don’t agree with my view, and I am more than happy to stand corrected and admit that I am totally out to lunch on this one. However, based on my understanding of the force-reset method, I am fairly sure I am correct about this. Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca mailto:siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Grant, Doing a reset by holding the power and home buttons may not be something you want to do every day and shouldn’t have to do, but it also won’t hurt. It will definitely reset more things than a simply shutdown and reboot of the phone and in your case I’d try it. I would probably remove all apps from the app switcher and do a regular reboot, then do the reset and while it may not fix your problem, I highly doubt it would hurt anything just as pressing the reset key on a computer won’t hurt anything either. Regards, Sieghard From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:30 AM To: Viphone List; Viphone List Subject: Re: Can't change VoiceOver speech rate Thanks Donna! It definitely takes time to get used to listening to a voice that quickly, but if you’re interested, you could try cranking up your rate a bit when you’re just listening to system prompts (like opening the mail app and browsing to a folder) then slowing it down to read the actual content. Of course, this is assuming you can change your rate. :) Grant On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net merma...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't have a solution to your problem. I just wanted to say...Wow!!! I can't understand but every other word VO says when the speed is set to 100% Heck, my brain or ears can't even keep up to follow along with VO is saying. LOL! Wish I had your talent, it would make doing tasks on my device faster. 65% is the fastest speed that I'm able to go and still be able to understand VO and comprehend what I'm listening to VO reading to me. Donna On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Grant Hardy mailto:grantha...@outlook.com grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi all, I normally keep my speech rate at 100%, but I have just discovered
