Re: Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An App?

2015-03-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I agree with you on bluetooth. I'm jus looking for something convenient 
when I'm not too worried about audio quality, such as listening to a 
basketball game over iTunes Radio. We got my son a bluetooth speaker 
from JVC. It's about the size and shape of a beer can. It was highly 
recommended at Best Buy, and it is super convenient. I'm not sure if I 
care whether it's water resistant or not, but I may want to take it out 
and use it by the hot tub, if we ever decide to get a hot tub that is.


On 03/19/2015 10:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Christopher,

They are convenient, but I'm no big fan of bluetooth except for listening to 
audio books and so on. Until recently I was really recommending the Turtle 
Shell 2 from Outdoor Tech, but of course not everybody wants a water-resistant 
speaker and by now there are also other options out there which are probably at 
least as good or better. I think Logitech is worth checking out, but I really 
haven't kept up with the latest so much because my Turtle Shell 2 will do me 
for some years to come I think. If you want something really good sounding and 
don't mind if it has to be plugged in then Sonos really is at the top of my 
list with the Play 1 or Play 3 depending on your budget.



Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An 
App?

Agreed, I'd never go bac to a entertainment center with speakers in the
corners and wires everywhere. I don't think Arnold ever said whether he
was talking about a prewired house or not, and I just thought that was
one scenario where a home theater receiver might fit the bill.

I got my son a bluetooth speaker for his smart phone over Christmas, and
I decided they were so convenient, I'm planning on getting myself one
this summer. I'm planning on checking with you before I buy anything to
see what the latest and greatest options are.

On 03/15/2015 12:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

HiChristopher,

I also don't disagree with what you say although there is a big difference between wiring a room or house when its being built and trying to retrofit an existing house with in-wall wiring and speakers. When I bought my house in 1996 it was a spec home, but I bought it early on so the inside walls had only been framed and not drywalled. I also went ahead at that point and installed speaker wires for built-in ceiling and in-wall speakers since I had an Onkyo receiver even back then which was capable of handling 2 independent zones. I had the main zone hooked into speakers in my living room with rear speakers built into the ceiling above the couch and the second zone was hooked up to a Niles 4-port speaker switch which provided signal to my bedroom, bathroom, office and kitchen. Of course those rooms wee not able to play independent sources although I did have in-line volume controls in each room so I could turn the volume all the way down if I didn't want sound in a particular room. 

A
nyhow, the point is that I do come from a more traditional background and while a number of receivers nowadays are capable of being hooked up to a router and handling certain online subscriptions, I highly doubt any one of them handles as many as Sonos and in as accessible a format. A solution with such a receiver also does not give  you the flexibility and scalability that Sonos offers when it comes to expanding into different rooms without any fuss and the variety of Sonos gear nowadays makes the system just ever so appealing. I am now just waiting for their long-anticipated headset which I really hope is coming this year or if not this year then next year. Every time I talk to their support and mention it they tell me that they get a ton of requests for a headset and I'm quite sure it's going to become reality in the near future. Then I can enjoy all my Sonos system has to offer with perfect privacy and without disturbing my wife or anybody else. I know that I could get a really 

go

od wireless headset and hook it into one of the RCA or optical digital outputs 
of one of my Sonos players, but I don't want to spend the money for a really 
good wireless headset knowing Sonos will most likely have one which will be 
fully integrated into their system in the near future.


Also, Sonos has one other advantage which most receivers don't have and that is 
the fact that you get regular software updates which improve the system and 
which ensure that new music services are available. Deezer lossless, for 
example, is only available via Sonos at least at this point. I had a free 1 
year Deezer subscription which came with the purchase of my Playbar and just 
last week I received an offer from Deezer to upgrade to their Deezer Elite 
lossless service for a ridiculous $36.50 for an entire year. Normally that 

RE: Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An App?

2015-03-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Christopher,

They are convenient, but I'm no big fan of bluetooth except for listening to 
audio books and so on. Until recently I was really recommending the Turtle 
Shell 2 from Outdoor Tech, but of course not everybody wants a water-resistant 
speaker and by now there are also other options out there which are probably at 
least as good or better. I think Logitech is worth checking out, but I really 
haven't kept up with the latest so much because my Turtle Shell 2 will do me 
for some years to come I think. If you want something really good sounding and 
don't mind if it has to be plugged in then Sonos really is at the top of my 
list with the Play 1 or Play 3 depending on your budget.



Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An 
App?

Agreed, I'd never go bac to a entertainment center with speakers in the 
corners and wires everywhere. I don't think Arnold ever said whether he 
was talking about a prewired house or not, and I just thought that was 
one scenario where a home theater receiver might fit the bill.

I got my son a bluetooth speaker for his smart phone over Christmas, and 
I decided they were so convenient, I'm planning on getting myself one 
this summer. I'm planning on checking with you before I buy anything to 
see what the latest and greatest options are.

On 03/15/2015 12:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 HiChristopher,

 I also don't disagree with what you say although there is a big difference 
 between wiring a room or house when its being built and trying to retrofit an 
 existing house with in-wall wiring and speakers. When I bought my house in 
 1996 it was a spec home, but I bought it early on so the inside walls had 
 only been framed and not drywalled. I also went ahead at that point and 
 installed speaker wires for built-in ceiling and in-wall speakers since I had 
 an Onkyo receiver even back then which was capable of handling 2 independent 
 zones. I had the main zone hooked into speakers in my living room with rear 
 speakers built into the ceiling above the couch and the second zone was 
 hooked up to a Niles 4-port speaker switch which provided signal to my 
 bedroom, bathroom, office and kitchen. Of course those rooms wee not able to 
 play independent sources although I did have in-line volume controls in each 
 room so I could turn the volume all the way down if I didn't want sound in a 
 particular room. A
nyhow, the point is that I do come from a more traditional background and while 
a number of receivers nowadays are capable of being hooked up to a router and 
handling certain online subscriptions, I highly doubt any one of them handles 
as many as Sonos and in as accessible a format. A solution with such a receiver 
also does not give  you the flexibility and scalability that Sonos offers when 
it comes to expanding into different rooms without any fuss and the variety of 
Sonos gear nowadays makes the system just ever so appealing. I am now just 
waiting for their long-anticipated headset which I really hope is coming this 
year or if not this year then next year. Every time I talk to their support and 
mention it they tell me that they get a ton of requests for a headset and I'm 
quite sure it's going to become reality in the near future. Then I can enjoy 
all my Sonos system has to offer with perfect privacy and without disturbing my 
wife or anybody else. I know that I could get a really go
od wireless headset and hook it into one of the RCA or optical digital outputs 
of one of my Sonos players, but I don't want to spend the money for a really 
good wireless headset knowing Sonos will most likely have one which will be 
fully integrated into their system in the near future.

 Also, Sonos has one other advantage which most receivers don't have and that 
 is the fact that you get regular software updates which improve the system 
 and which ensure that new music services are available. Deezer lossless, for 
 example, is only available via Sonos at least at this point. I had a free 1 
 year Deezer subscription which came with the purchase of my Playbar and just 
 last week I received an offer from Deezer to upgrade to their Deezer Elite 
 lossless service for a ridiculous $36.50 for an entire year. Normally that 
 service is $20 a months and it is an awesome offer and the sound quality is 
 amazing.


 Regards,
 Sieghard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 10:35 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With 
 An App?

 I'm not pushing home theater receivers or knocking Sonos, and I listen 
 carefully to everything 

Re: Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An App?

2015-03-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Agreed, I'd never go bac to a entertainment center with speakers in the 
corners and wires everywhere. I don't think Arnold ever said whether he 
was talking about a prewired house or not, and I just thought that was 
one scenario where a home theater receiver might fit the bill.


I got my son a bluetooth speaker for his smart phone over Christmas, and 
I decided they were so convenient, I'm planning on getting myself one 
this summer. I'm planning on checking with you before I buy anything to 
see what the latest and greatest options are.


On 03/15/2015 12:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

HiChristopher,

I also don't disagree with what you say although there is a big difference 
between wiring a room or house when its being built and trying to retrofit an 
existing house with in-wall wiring and speakers. When I bought my house in 1996 
it was a spec home, but I bought it early on so the inside walls had only been 
framed and not drywalled. I also went ahead at that point and installed speaker 
wires for built-in ceiling and in-wall speakers since I had an Onkyo receiver 
even back then which was capable of handling 2 independent zones. I had the 
main zone hooked into speakers in my living room with rear speakers built into 
the ceiling above the couch and the second zone was hooked up to a Niles 4-port 
speaker switch which provided signal to my bedroom, bathroom, office and 
kitchen. Of course those rooms wee not able to play independent sources 
although I did have in-line volume controls in each room so I could turn the 
volume all the way down if I didn't want sound in a particular room. A

nyhow, the point is that I do come from a more traditional background and while 
a number of receivers nowadays are capable of being hooked up to a router and 
handling certain online subscriptions, I highly doubt any one of them handles 
as many as Sonos and in as accessible a format. A solution with such a receiver 
also does not give  you the flexibility and scalability that Sonos offers when 
it comes to expanding into different rooms without any fuss and the variety of 
Sonos gear nowadays makes the system just ever so appealing. I am now just 
waiting for their long-anticipated headset which I really hope is coming this 
year or if not this year then next year. Every time I talk to their support and 
mention it they tell me that they get a ton of requests for a headset and I'm 
quite sure it's going to become reality in the near future. Then I can enjoy 
all my Sonos system has to offer with perfect privacy and without disturbing my 
wife or anybody else. I know that I could get a really go
od wireless headset and hook it into one of the RCA or optical digital outputs 
of one of my Sonos players, but I don't want to spend the money for a really 
good wireless headset knowing Sonos will most likely have one which will be 
fully integrated into their system in the near future.


Also, Sonos has one other advantage which most receivers don't have and that is 
the fact that you get regular software updates which improve the system and 
which ensure that new music services are available. Deezer lossless, for 
example, is only available via Sonos at least at this point. I had a free 1 
year Deezer subscription which came with the purchase of my Playbar and just 
last week I received an offer from Deezer to upgrade to their Deezer Elite 
lossless service for a ridiculous $36.50 for an entire year. Normally that 
service is $20 a months and it is an awesome offer and the sound quality is 
amazing.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An 
App?

I'm not pushing home theater receivers or knocking Sonos, and I listen 
carefully to everything Sieghard says, especially when it comes to audio, but I 
have one tiny point of clarification. Home theater receivers do come with the 
ability to tap into subscription music services and do support DLNA, so you can 
access your music from a network attached storage device. The Yamaha RX-V773 
receiver I own has these features, and it's obviously not unique.

We built our house a few years ago, and we had it wired for a 7.2 surround 
sound system in the family room, so we don't have big bulky speakers or wires 
anywhere. I've looked into Sonos recently, and I may still go that option in 
the future for some situations, but for my living room, I don't think it beats 
just dropping a network capable home theater receiver into my AV cabinet.

On 03/14/2015 10:57 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

I agree with everything Sieghard said.

I bought 4 Play3’s in December, setting them up as paired units in 2
rooms. With Spotify, and my iTunes Match, I haven’t had such wonderful
and accessible music listening in decades. And their 

RE: Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An App?

2015-03-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
HiChristopher,

I also don't disagree with what you say although there is a big difference 
between wiring a room or house when its being built and trying to retrofit an 
existing house with in-wall wiring and speakers. When I bought my house in 1996 
it was a spec home, but I bought it early on so the inside walls had only been 
framed and not drywalled. I also went ahead at that point and installed speaker 
wires for built-in ceiling and in-wall speakers since I had an Onkyo receiver 
even back then which was capable of handling 2 independent zones. I had the 
main zone hooked into speakers in my living room with rear speakers built into 
the ceiling above the couch and the second zone was hooked up to a Niles 4-port 
speaker switch which provided signal to my bedroom, bathroom, office and 
kitchen. Of course those rooms wee not able to play independent sources 
although I did have in-line volume controls in each room so I could turn the 
volume all the way down if I didn't want sound in a particular room. Anyhow, 
the point is that I do come from a more traditional background and while a 
number of receivers nowadays are capable of being hooked up to a router and 
handling certain online subscriptions, I highly doubt any one of them handles 
as many as Sonos and in as accessible a format. A solution with such a receiver 
also does not give  you the flexibility and scalability that Sonos offers when 
it comes to expanding into different rooms without any fuss and the variety of 
Sonos gear nowadays makes the system just ever so appealing. I am now just 
waiting for their long-anticipated headset which I really hope is coming this 
year or if not this year then next year. Every time I talk to their support and 
mention it they tell me that they get a ton of requests for a headset and I'm 
quite sure it's going to become reality in the near future. Then I can enjoy 
all my Sonos system has to offer with perfect privacy and without disturbing my 
wife or anybody else. I know that I could get a really good wireless headset 
and hook it into one of the RCA or optical digital outputs of one of my Sonos 
players, but I don't want to spend the money for a really good wireless headset 
knowing Sonos will most likely have one which will be fully integrated into 
their system in the near future.

Also, Sonos has one other advantage which most receivers don't have and that is 
the fact that you get regular software updates which improve the system and 
which ensure that new music services are available. Deezer lossless, for 
example, is only available via Sonos at least at this point. I had a free 1 
year Deezer subscription which came with the purchase of my Playbar and just 
last week I received an offer from Deezer to upgrade to their Deezer Elite 
lossless service for a ridiculous $36.50 for an entire year. Normally that 
service is $20 a months and it is an awesome offer and the sound quality is 
amazing.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An 
App?

I'm not pushing home theater receivers or knocking Sonos, and I listen 
carefully to everything Sieghard says, especially when it comes to audio, but I 
have one tiny point of clarification. Home theater receivers do come with the 
ability to tap into subscription music services and do support DLNA, so you can 
access your music from a network attached storage device. The Yamaha RX-V773 
receiver I own has these features, and it's obviously not unique.

We built our house a few years ago, and we had it wired for a 7.2 surround 
sound system in the family room, so we don't have big bulky speakers or wires 
anywhere. I've looked into Sonos recently, and I may still go that option in 
the future for some situations, but for my living room, I don't think it beats 
just dropping a network capable home theater receiver into my AV cabinet.

On 03/14/2015 10:57 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
 I agree with everything Sieghard said.

 I bought 4 Play3’s in December, setting them up as paired units in 2 
 rooms. With Spotify, and my iTunes Match, I haven’t had such wonderful 
 and accessible music listening in decades. And their phone support is 
 excellent, if you need it. Keith

 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
 Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2015 7:50 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated 
 With An App?

 Hi Arnold,

 My recommendation is Sonos. You said “stereo receiver” in your subject 
 so I assume you are looking for a receiver (amplifier with integrated
 tuner) for music playback. If you already own a set of good quality 
 speakers you want to use, then get a Sonos Connect 

Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An App?

2015-03-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Arnold,

 

My recommendation is Sonos. You said “stereo receiver” in your subject so I 
assume you are looking for a receiver (amplifier with integrated tuner) for 
music playback. If you already own a set of good quality speakers you want to 
use, then get a Sonos Connect Amp. You get a very nice sounding amplifier with 
110 Watts of Class D amplification for $600. It is small, fully connected with 
access to dozens of paid and free internet music services and the app is fully 
and fantastically accessible. On top of that you will have the freedom to 
expand your Sonos system later with any of their other players to bring music 
to other rooms, you can add a Sonos wireless Sub or, if you already have a 
traditional, powered Sub, you can connect it to your Connect Amp.

 

If you want a full 5.1 surround system, it would set you back about $1,800 with 
a Sonos Playbar, Sonos Sub and two Play 1 players for the rear channel.

 

In my opinionthe flexibility, connectivity and accessibility of Sonos beats 
anything else out there. Even if you consider an inexpensive $300 or $400 
receiver paired with an inexpensive $200 or $300 set of bookshelf speakers, you 
now have spend $500 to $700. For $600 you can buy two Sonos Play 3 players and 
set them up as a stereo pair which will sound every bit as good as what you get 
with a low-end traditional setup. The traditional setup means a bulky receiver, 
speakers which by themselves are about the size or larger than the Sonos Play 3 
and, of course, wires which have to go from the receiver to the speakers. This 
setup gives you access to an FM/AM tuner and you have not yet added any other 
source of music. For this you either need to spend more money for a CD player 
or connect your computer or iPhone to the receiver. Chances are you may find a 
receiver which has Airplay capabilities so you could play music to the receiver 
wirelessly via your iPhone or iTunes, if not you will need to connect the 
computer or iPhone with a cable. Playing music from Tune In or a subscription 
based music service similarly would require you to use your iPhone with Airplay 
or your iPhone or computer wired into the receiver. With Sonos access to Tune 
In and just about every subscription based music service you can think of is 
integrated into the fully accessible Sonos app. Your own music can easily be 
accessed by ripping all your CD’s (if you haven’t done so already) and give 
Sonos access to your music folder on the computer or, even better, on a network 
attached hard drive which means your computer doesn’t even have to be on. This 
means additional components like CD Players also become a thing of the past.

 

 

 

Good luck,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 10:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An App?

 

A couple years ago, I think on Cool Blind Tech, there was a podcast about a 
Denon receiver that was quite accessible using an iPhone app.  However, even 
when that podcast was released, that receiver was no longer available.  Being 
that a lot of modern  stereo equipment is not the most blind friendly, are 
there any currently available receivers that can be operated with an app?  

  Thanks for any opinions.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

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Re: Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An App?

2015-03-14 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not pushing home theater receivers or knocking Sonos, and I listen 
carefully to everything Sieghard says, especially when it comes to 
audio, but I have one tiny point of clarification. Home theater 
receivers do come with the ability to tap into subscription music 
services and do support DLNA, so you can access your music from a 
network attached storage device. The Yamaha RX-V773 receiver I own has 
these features, and it's obviously not unique.


We built our house a few years ago, and we had it wired for a 7.2 
surround sound system in the family room, so we don't have big bulky 
speakers or wires anywhere. I've looked into Sonos recently, and I may 
still go that option in the future for some situations, but for my 
living room, I don't think it beats just dropping a network capable home 
theater receiver into my AV cabinet.


On 03/14/2015 10:57 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

I agree with everything Sieghard said.

I bought 4 Play3’s in December, setting them up as paired units in 2
rooms. With Spotify, and my iTunes Match, I haven’t had such wonderful
and accessible music listening in decades. And their phone support is
excellent, if you need it. Keith

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2015 7:50 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated
With An App?

Hi Arnold,

My recommendation is Sonos. You said “stereo receiver” in your subject
so I assume you are looking for a receiver (amplifier with integrated
tuner) for music playback. If you already own a set of good quality
speakers you want to use, then get a Sonos Connect Amp. You get a very
nice sounding amplifier with 110 Watts of Class D amplification for
$600. It is small, fully connected with access to dozens of paid and
free internet music services and the app is fully and fantastically
accessible. On top of that you will have the freedom to expand your
Sonos system later with any of their other players to bring music to
other rooms, you can add a Sonos wireless Sub or, if you already have a
traditional, powered Sub, you can connect it to your Connect Amp.

If you want a full 5.1 surround system, it would set you back about
$1,800 with a Sonos Playbar, Sonos Sub and two Play 1 players for the
rear channel.

In my opinionthe flexibility, connectivity and accessibility of Sonos
beats anything else out there. Even if you consider an inexpensive $300
or $400 receiver paired with an inexpensive $200 or $300 set of
bookshelf speakers, you now have spend $500 to $700. For $600 you can
buy two Sonos Play 3 players and set them up as a stereo pair which will
sound every bit as good as what you get with a low-end traditional
setup. The traditional setup means a bulky receiver, speakers which by
themselves are about the size or larger than the Sonos Play 3 and, of
course, wires which have to go from the receiver to the speakers. This
setup gives you access to an FM/AM tuner and you have not yet added any
other source of music. For this you either need to spend more money for
a CD player or connect your computer or iPhone to the receiver. Chances
are you may find a receiver which has Airplay capabilities so you could
play music to the receiver wirelessly via your iPhone or iTunes, if not
you will need to connect the computer or iPhone with a cable. Playing
music from Tune In or a subscription based music service similarly would
require you to use your iPhone with Airplay or your iPhone or computer
wired into the receiver. With Sonos access to Tune In and just about
every subscription based music service you can think of is integrated
into the fully accessible Sonos app. Your own music can easily be
accessed by ripping all your CD’s (if you haven’t done so already) and
give Sonos access to your music folder on the computer or, even better,
on a network attached hard drive which means your computer doesn’t even
have to be on. This means additional components like CD Players also
become a thing of the past.

Good luck,

Sieghard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Arnold Schmidt
*Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2015 10:12 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An App?

A couple years ago, I think on Cool Blind Tech, there was a podcast
about a Denon receiver that was quite accessible using an iPhone app.
However, even when that podcast was released, that receiver was no
longer available.  Being that a lot of modern  stereo equipment is not
the most blind friendly, are there any currently available receivers
that can be operated with an app?

   Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt

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RE: Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An App?

2015-03-14 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
I agree with everything Sieghard said.

I bought 4 Play3’s in December, setting them up as paired units in 2 rooms. 
With Spotify, and my iTunes Match, I haven’t had such wonderful and accessible 
music listening in decades. And their phone support is excellent, if you need 
it. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Just use Sonos, was: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An App?

Hi Arnold,

My recommendation is Sonos. You said “stereo receiver” in your subject so I 
assume you are looking for a receiver (amplifier with integrated tuner) for 
music playback. If you already own a set of good quality speakers you want to 
use, then get a Sonos Connect Amp. You get a very nice sounding amplifier with 
110 Watts of Class D amplification for $600. It is small, fully connected with 
access to dozens of paid and free internet music services and the app is fully 
and fantastically accessible. On top of that you will have the freedom to 
expand your Sonos system later with any of their other players to bring music 
to other rooms, you can add a Sonos wireless Sub or, if you already have a 
traditional, powered Sub, you can connect it to your Connect Amp.

If you want a full 5.1 surround system, it would set you back about $1,800 with 
a Sonos Playbar, Sonos Sub and two Play 1 players for the rear channel.

In my opinionthe flexibility, connectivity and accessibility of Sonos beats 
anything else out there. Even if you consider an inexpensive $300 or $400 
receiver paired with an inexpensive $200 or $300 set of bookshelf speakers, you 
now have spend $500 to $700. For $600 you can buy two Sonos Play 3 players and 
set them up as a stereo pair which will sound every bit as good as what you get 
with a low-end traditional setup. The traditional setup means a bulky receiver, 
speakers which by themselves are about the size or larger than the Sonos Play 3 
and, of course, wires which have to go from the receiver to the speakers. This 
setup gives you access to an FM/AM tuner and you have not yet added any other 
source of music. For this you either need to spend more money for a CD player 
or connect your computer or iPhone to the receiver. Chances are you may find a 
receiver which has Airplay capabilities so you could play music to the receiver 
wirelessly via your iPhone or iTunes, if not you will need to connect the 
computer or iPhone with a cable. Playing music from Tune In or a subscription 
based music service similarly would require you to use your iPhone with Airplay 
or your iPhone or computer wired into the receiver. With Sonos access to Tune 
In and just about every subscription based music service you can think of is 
integrated into the fully accessible Sonos app. Your own music can easily be 
accessed by ripping all your CD’s (if you haven’t done so already) and give 
Sonos access to your music folder on the computer or, even better, on a network 
attached hard drive which means your computer doesn’t even have to be on. This 
means additional components like CD Players also become a thing of the past.



Good luck,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 10:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Stereo Receivers That Can Be Operated With An App?

A couple years ago, I think on Cool Blind Tech, there was a podcast about a 
Denon receiver that was quite accessible using an iPhone app.  However, even 
when that podcast was released, that receiver was no longer available.  Being 
that a lot of modern  stereo equipment is not the most blind friendly, are 
there any currently available receivers that can be operated with an app?
  Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt
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