Re: join me to report one remaining native e-mail bug accessibil...@apple.com

[Davy Cuppens]

Sieghard 

Thanx for your reply.

I found this phrase in an old document from Applevis:

• You cannot use the VoiceOver rotor to navigate by line when composing an 
email in the Mail app.

This bug is still present here. Glad for you not having this issue but I can 
confirm it and reported it to Apple. Put the device on/off, hard reset done all 
that. In all other circumstances reading line by line is working just fine here.
Davy 
From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 6:00 PM
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No issues here at all with dictating a bunch of text in an email and reviewing 
it character by character, word by word or line by line.

I was able to move back and forward through the text in my subject field which 
said “This is a test using dictation” as well as in the message body where I 
just dictated a bunch of stuff which included inserting new lines, new 
paragraphs and so on.

If you reported this as a bug already before posting it here, then this is one 
example, Davy, where maybe posting it here first would have been a good idea. I 
don’t know why you can’t turn your rotor to words or lines after you dictate 
your text and then move through it, but I use dictation all the time and in no 
version of iOS 13 was it an issue to review my text this way afterwards. 

 

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Lemly
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:14 AM
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Davy,

 

You can read line by line using that Rotor action in Outlook for iOS.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

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Hi folks 

 

If you want to read mail text line by line, this is broken in ios13. F.E. 
supposing you have been dictating and want to correct your own written tekst, 
you only can read character by character, word by word but not line by line 
which is a much faster and more convenient way to review text.

 

As ios13.5 has just come out, it is justified to report this issue again if you 
had already done that.

Regards

Davy

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Re: join me to report one remaining native e-mail bug accessibil...@apple.com

[Davy Cuppens]

There is no problem in turning the rotor into lines but as I flick up or down 
to read line by line, I only hear the tok sound. And for sure I knew that this 
bug had been mentioned before in the update cycle of ios13.
Davy 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 6:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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accessibil...@apple.com

No issues here at all with dictating a bunch of text in an email and reviewing 
it character by character, word by word or line by line.

I was able to move back and forward through the text in my subject field which 
said “This is a test using dictation” as well as in the message body where I 
just dictated a bunch of stuff which included inserting new lines, new 
paragraphs and so on.

If you reported this as a bug already before posting it here, then this is one 
example, Davy, where maybe posting it here first would have been a good idea. I 
don’t know why you can’t turn your rotor to words or lines after you dictate 
your text and then move through it, but I use dictation all the time and in no 
version of iOS 13 was it an issue to review my text this way afterwards. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:14 AM
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Davy,

 

You can read line by line using that Rotor action in Outlook for iOS.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

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Hi folks 

 

If you want to read mail text line by line, this is broken in ios13. F.E. 
supposing you have been dictating and want to correct your own written tekst, 
you only can read character by character, word by word but not line by line 
which is a much faster and more convenient way to review text.

 

As ios13.5 has just come out, it is justified to report this issue again if you 
had already done that.

Regards

Davy

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RE: join me to report one remaining native e-mail bug accessibil...@apple.com

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No issues here at all with dictating a bunch of text in an email and reviewing 
it character by character, word by word or line by line.
I was able to move back and forward through the text in my subject field which 
said “This is a test using dictation” as well as in the message body where I 
just dictated a bunch of stuff which included inserting new lines, new 
paragraphs and so on.
If you reported this as a bug already before posting it here, then this is one 
example, Davy, where maybe posting it here first would have been a good idea. I 
don’t know why you can’t turn your rotor to words or lines after you dictate 
your text and then move through it, but I use dictation all the time and in no 
version of iOS 13 was it an issue to review my text this way afterwards.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:14 AM
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accessibil...@apple.com

Davy,

You can read line by line using that Rotor action in Outlook for iOS.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Davy 
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Hi folks

If you want to read mail text line by line, this is broken in ios13. F.E. 
supposing you have been dictating and want to correct your own written tekst, 
you only can read character by character, word by word but not line by line 
which is a much faster and more convenient way to review text.

As ios13.5 has just come out, it is justified to report this issue again if you 
had already done that.
Regards
Davy
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Re: join me to report one remaining native e-mail bug accessibil...@apple.com

[Alan Lemly]

Davy,

You can read line by line using that Rotor action in Outlook for iOS.

Alan Lemly

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Hi folks

If you want to read mail text line by line, this is broken in ios13. F.E. 
supposing you have been dictating and want to correct your own written tekst, 
you only can read character by character, word by word but not line by line 
which is a much faster and more convenient way to review text.

As ios13.5 has just come out, it is justified to report this issue again if you 
had already done that.
Regards
Davy

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join me to report one remaining native e-mail bug accessibil...@apple.com

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks 

If you want to read mail text line by line, this is broken in ios13. F.E. 
supposing you have been dictating and want to correct your own written tekst, 
you only can read character by character, word by word but not line by line 
which is a much faster and more convenient way to review text.

As ios13.5 has just come out, it is justified to report this issue again if you 
had already done that.
Regards
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Mail bug

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

I deleted a ton of email. Now on the home screen, the amount of new email is 
decreasing very slowly. It took about a half hour to tell me I had only 6 
unread emails. How do I fix this, or is this a bug? I'm running an iPhone 6 s 
plus and 9.1. I hope I explained it okay. I went into settings and turned the 
badge icon off and on again for PIP settings. This was in notifications. Is 
there a work around?
Thanks,
Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

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Re: Mail bug

[Richard Turner]

it sounds like it took your server that long to remove the Email.
When was the last time you removed all emails from your trash folder?
Richard


> On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I deleted a ton of email. Now on the home screen, the amount of new email is 
> decreasing very slowly. It took about a half hour to tell me I had only 6 
> unread emails. How do I fix this, or is this a bug? I'm running an iPhone 6 s 
> plus and 9.1. I hope I explained it okay. I went into settings and turned the 
> badge icon off and on again for PIP settings. This was in notifications. Is 
> there a work around?
> Thanks,
> Jenn
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> Jenn and Kumi
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Richard,

Thanks so much for posting this fix as I have mail notifications turned off as 
I do not want a notification every time I get a mail message. Turning it on and 
turning on the badge count did the trick and it says mail notifications is 
still turned off, so hopefully this will work. Thanks again
> On Oct 21, 2015, at 11:00 PM, Jun Jun Limbo  wrote:
> 
> It happen to me occationally since 94.0. I just close and open the mail and 
> it return to normal.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 22 Oct 2015, at 10:01, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>> John, same here. It's working as it always has.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:54 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s working here fine. I hear the next message or thread read after I 
>>> flick up and double tap to delete a message.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
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>>> 
 On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 
 Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
 email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
 reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a 
 message VO does not read you the next message you have to flick one way 
 then back to have it read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers for VO.
 
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Re: Mail bug

[Jennie Facer]

I deleted them all yesterday.


Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> it sounds like it took your server that long to remove the Email.
> When was the last time you removed all emails from your trash folder?
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I deleted a ton of email. Now on the home screen, the amount of new email is 
>> decreasing very slowly. It took about a half hour to tell me I had only 6 
>> unread emails. How do I fix this, or is this a bug? I'm running an iPhone 6 
>> s plus and 9.1. I hope I explained it okay. I went into settings and turned 
>> the badge icon off and on again for PIP settings. This was in notifications. 
>> Is there a work around?
>> Thanks,
>> Jenn
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Jun Jun Limbo]

It happen to me occationally since 94.0. I just close and open the mail and it 
return to normal.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Oct 2015, at 10:01, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> John, same here. It's working as it always has.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:54 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>  It’s working here fine. I hear the next message or thread read after I 
>> flick up and double tap to delete a message.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
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>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
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>>> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
>>> email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
>>> reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a 
>>> message VO does not read you the next message you have to flick one way 
>>> then back to have it read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers for VO.
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Rajmund]

Hello,
It may have improved, but its still not there. For me, the only improvement I 
can see is that focus is not being lost. Oh, and apparently it is now read how 
many messages are in a thread, though, I have that disabled, so not sure about 
that one.

- Original Message -
From: Les Kriegler  <kriegle...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:24 am
Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

>
>
> I haven't seen that one either. One improvement I've seen in mail is now 
> Messages download on the mail app is loaded. Would 9.02, I would start mail 
> in the mail wouldn't generally come in. As I grew impatient, I would close 
> the app and re-launch it in the mail came in. Now it's coming in is it 
> supposed to. So in my opinion, mail is much improved in terms of performance 
> in 9.1.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > Strange; I haven't seen this one. What I've seen, though, is when you try 
> > and delete the message, it won't. Then, 3 attempts is the charm. 
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Brian Fischler  <brianfisch...@me.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:00 am
> > Subject: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
> >> email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
> >> reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a 
> >> message VO does not read you the next message you have to flick one way 
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Strange; I haven't seen this one. What I've seen, though, is when you try and 
delete the message, it won't. Then, 3 attempts is the charm. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:00 am
Subject: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

>
>
> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your email 
> if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start reading you 
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Les Kriegler]

I haven't seen that one either. One improvement I've seen in mail is now 
Messages download on the mail app is loaded. Would 9.02, I would start mail in 
the mail wouldn't generally come in. As I grew impatient, I would close the app 
and re-launch it in the mail came in. Now it's coming in is it supposed to. So 
in my opinion, mail is much improved in terms of performance in 9.1.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Strange; I haven't seen this one. What I've seen, though, is when you try and 
> delete the message, it won't. Then, 3 attempts is the charm. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Brian Fischler  <brianfisch...@me.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:00 am
> Subject: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
>> email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
>> reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a 
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Rajmund]

Hello,
So, is it essentially a restart? A reboot, in other words?

- Original Message -
From: Feliciano Godoy  <theblindman...@hotmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

>
>
> Hi,
> power cycling is simply powering off your device and powering it back on. You 
> can achieve this by pressing down theee wake sleep button for about 3 seconds 
> and double tapping on the power off button. Then powering on the device by 
> pressing and holding the wake sleep button for about 3 seconds as well.
> 
> 
> Regards,
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> > On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:06 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > How do you do power cycling, anyone knows?
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Feliciano Godoy  <theblindman...@hotmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:58 pm
> > Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi,
> >> glad to hear that power cycling your device fixed that issue. As far as 
> >> your notification count for the mail App not matching the actual number of 
> >> emails that you have, will opening the mail App and then closing the mail 
> >> App by clicking the home button update the email count? If so, your mail 
> >> app settings may be set to fetch emails manually when the app is opened.  
> >> from the home screen 
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Feliciano
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> >>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks all, power cycling the phone did the trick to get this working 
> >>> again, weird. Is anyone getting the number of unread messages on their 
> >>> home screen? I have 47 unread messages yet when I touch mail on the home 
> >>> screen it still says no unread messages. This number count does work on 
> >>> text messages and phone displaying how many items I have that i have not 
> >>> looked at, another strange one. Thanks,
> >>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>> It may have improved, but its still not there. For me, the only 
> >>>> improvement I can see is that focus is not being lost. Oh, and 
> >>>> apparently it is now read how many messages are in a thread, though, I 
> >>>> have that disabled, so not sure about that one.
> >>>> 
> >>>> - Original Message -
> >>>> From: Les Kriegler  <kriegle...@gmail.com>
> >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:24 am
> >>>> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I haven't seen that one either. One improvement I've seen in mail is 
> >>>>> now Messages download on the mail app is loaded. Would 9.02, I would 
> >>>>> start mail in the mail wouldn't generally come in. As I grew impatient, 
> >>>>> I would close the app and re-launch it in the mail came in. Now it's 
> >>>>> coming in is it supposed to. So in my opinion, mail is much improved in 
> >>>>> terms of performance in 9.1.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>> Strange; I haven't seen this one. What I've seen, though, is when you 
> >>>>>> try and delete the message, it won't. Then, 3 attempts is the charm. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> - Original Message -
> >>>>>> From: Brian Fischler  <brianfisch...@me.com>
> >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:00 am
> >>>>>> Subject: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>

Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Feliciano Godoy]

Yes, essentially a reboot.

Regards,
Feliciano
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> On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:17 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> So, is it essentially a restart? A reboot, in other words?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Feliciano Godoy  <theblindman...@hotmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:15 pm
> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> power cycling is simply powering off your device and powering it back on. 
>> You can achieve this by pressing down theee wake sleep button for about 3 
>> seconds and double tapping on the power off button. Then powering on the 
>> device by pressing and holding the wake sleep button for about 3 seconds as 
>> well.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
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>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:06 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> How do you do power cycling, anyone knows?
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -
>>> From: Feliciano Godoy  <theblindman...@hotmail.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:58 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> glad to hear that power cycling your device fixed that issue. As far as 
>>>> your notification count for the mail App not matching the actual number of 
>>>> emails that you have, will opening the mail App and then closing the mail 
>>>> App by clicking the home button update the email count? If so, your mail 
>>>> app settings may be set to fetch emails manually when the app is opened.  
>>>> from the home screen 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Feliciano
>>>> For tech tips and updates, 
>>>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
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>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks all, power cycling the phone did the trick to get this working 
>>>>> again, weird. Is anyone getting the number of unread messages on their 
>>>>> home screen? I have 47 unread messages yet when I touch mail on the home 
>>>>> screen it still says no unread messages. This number count does work on 
>>>>> text messages and phone displaying how many items I have that i have not 
>>>>> looked at, another strange one. Thanks,
>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> It may have improved, but its still not there. For me, the only 
>>>>>> improvement I can see is that focus is not being lost. Oh, and 
>>>>>> apparently it is now read how many messages are in a thread, though, I 
>>>>>> have that disabled, so not sure about that one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: Les Kriegler  <kriegle...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:24 am
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I haven't seen that one either. One improvement I've seen in mail is 
>>>>>>> now Messages download on the mail app is loaded. Would 9.02, I would 
>>>>>>> start mail in the mail wouldn't generally come in. As I grew impatient, 
>>>>>>> I would close the app and re-launch it in the mail came in. Now it's 
>>>>>>> coming in is it supposed to. So in my opinion, mail is much improved in 
>>>>>>> terms of performance in 9.1.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> Strange; I haven't seen this one. What I've seen, though, is when you 
>>

Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Rajmund]

Hello,
OK, thanks. I was hoping that this was something hidden, but, thanks, anyway. 
;) 

- Original Message -
From: Feliciano Godoy  <theblindman...@hotmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

>
>
> Yes, essentially a reboot.
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates, 
> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
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> 
> > On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:17 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > So, is it essentially a restart? A reboot, in other words?
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Feliciano Godoy  <theblindman...@hotmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:15 pm
> > Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi,
> >> power cycling is simply powering off your device and powering it back on.. 
> >> You can achieve this by pressing down theee wake sleep button for about 3 
> >> seconds and double tapping on the power off button. Then powering on the 
> >> device by pressing and holding the wake sleep button for about 3 seconds 
> >> as well.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Feliciano
> >> For tech tips and updates, 
> >> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
> >> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:06 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hello,
> >>> How do you do power cycling, anyone knows?
> >>> 
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: Feliciano Godoy  <theblindman...@hotmail.com>
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:58 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> glad to hear that power cycling your device fixed that issue. As far as 
> >>>> your notification count for the mail App not matching the actual number 
> >>>> of emails that you have, will opening the mail App and then closing the 
> >>>> mail App by clicking the home button update the email count? If so, your 
> >>>> mail app settings may be set to fetch emails manually when the app is 
> >>>> opened.  from the home screen 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Feliciano
> >>>> For tech tips and updates, 
> >>>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
> >>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks all, power cycling the phone did the trick to get this working 
> >>>>> again, weird. Is anyone getting the number of unread messages on their 
> >>>>> home screen? I have 47 unread messages yet when I touch mail on the 
> >>>>> home screen it still says no unread messages. This number count does 
> >>>>> work on text messages and phone displaying how many items I have that i 
> >>>>> have not looked at, another strange one. Thanks,
> >>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>> It may have improved, but its still not there. For me, the only 
> >>>>>> improvement I can see is that focus is not being lost. Oh, and 
> >>>>>> apparently it is now read how many messages are in a thread, though, I 
> >>>>>> have that disabled, so not sure about that one.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> - Original Message -
> >>>>>> From: Les Kriegler  <kriegle...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:24 am
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I haven't seen that one either. One improvement I've seen in mail is 
> >>>>>>> now Messages download on the mail app is loaded. Would 9.02, I would

Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Feliciano Godoy]

Ah, FYI,,, a hard reset will clear the ramm memory. This is also something you 
can do when power cycling does not fix an issue. A hard reset can be done by 
pressing down the wake sleep button and home button in the same time for about 
8 seconds.

Regards,
Feliciano
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> On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:44 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> OK, thanks. I was hoping that this was something hidden, but, thanks, anyway. 
> ;) 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Feliciano Godoy  <theblindman...@hotmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:27 pm
> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, essentially a reboot.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates, 
>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:17 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> So, is it essentially a restart? A reboot, in other words?
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Feliciano Godoy  <theblindman...@hotmail.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:15 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> power cycling is simply powering off your device and powering it back on.. 
>>>> You can achieve this by pressing down theee wake sleep button for about 3 
>>>> seconds and double tapping on the power off button. Then powering on the 
>>>> device by pressing and holding the wake sleep button for about 3 seconds 
>>>> as well.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Feliciano
>>>> For tech tips and updates, 
>>>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:06 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> How do you do power cycling, anyone knows?
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Feliciano Godoy  <theblindman...@hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:58 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> glad to hear that power cycling your device fixed that issue. As far as 
>>>>>> your notification count for the mail App not matching the actual number 
>>>>>> of emails that you have, will opening the mail App and then closing the 
>>>>>> mail App by clicking the home button update the email count? If so, your 
>>>>>> mail app settings may be set to fetch emails manually when the app is 
>>>>>> opened.  from the home screen 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Feliciano
>>>>>> For tech tips and updates, 
>>>>>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>>>>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks all, power cycling the phone did the trick to get this working 
>>>>>>> again, weird. Is anyone getting the number of unread messages on their 
>>>>>>> home screen? I have 47 unread messages yet when I touch mail on the 
>>>>>>> home screen it still says no unread messages. This number count does 
>>>>>>> work on text messages and phone displaying how many items I have that i 
>>>>>>> have not looked at, another strange one. Thanks,
>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> It may have improved, but its still not there. For me, the only 
>>>>>>>> improvement I can see is that focus is not being lost. Oh, and 
>>>>>>>> apparently it is now read how many messages are in a thread, though, I 
>>

Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Rajmund]

Hello,
How do you do power cycling, anyone knows?

- Original Message -
From: Feliciano Godoy  <theblindman...@hotmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

>
>
> Hi,
> glad to hear that power cycling your device fixed that issue. As far as your 
> notification count for the mail App not matching the actual number of emails 
> that you have, will opening the mail App and then closing the mail App by 
> clicking the home button update the email count? If so, your mail app 
> settings may be set to fetch emails manually when the app is opened.  from 
> the home screen 
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates, 
> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
> 
> > On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks all, power cycling the phone did the trick to get this working 
> > again, weird. Is anyone getting the number of unread messages on their home 
> > screen? I have 47 unread messages yet when I touch mail on the home screen 
> > it still says no unread messages. This number count does work on text 
> > messages and phone displaying how many items I have that i have not looked 
> > at, another strange one. Thanks,
> >> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hello,
> >> It may have improved, but its still not there. For me, the only 
> >> improvement I can see is that focus is not being lost. Oh, and apparently 
> >> it is now read how many messages are in a thread, though, I have that 
> >> disabled, so not sure about that one.
> >> 
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Les Kriegler  <kriegle...@gmail.com>
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:24 am
> >> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I haven't seen that one either. One improvement I've seen in mail is now 
> >>> Messages download on the mail app is loaded. Would 9.02, I would start 
> >>> mail in the mail wouldn't generally come in. As I grew impatient, I would 
> >>> close the app and re-launch it in the mail came in. Now it's coming in is 
> >>> it supposed to. So in my opinion, mail is much improved in terms of 
> >>> performance in 9.1.
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
> >>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>> Strange; I haven't seen this one. What I've seen, though, is when you 
> >>>> try and delete the message, it won't. Then, 3 attempts is the charm. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> - Original Message -
> >>>> From: Brian Fischler  <brianfisch...@me.com>
> >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:00 am
> >>>> Subject: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
> >>>>> email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
> >>>>> reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete 
> >>>>> a message VO does not read you the next message you have to flick one 
> >>>>> way then back to have it read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers 
> >>>>> for VO.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> -- 
> >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone 
> >>>>> list.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
> >>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
> >>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list 
> >>>>> itself.
> >>>>> 
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> >>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >>>>> 
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
power cycling is simply powering off your device and powering it back on. You 
can achieve this by pressing down theee wake sleep button for about 3 seconds 
and double tapping on the power off button. Then powering on the device by 
pressing and holding the wake sleep button for about 3 seconds as well.


Regards,
Feliciano
For tech tips and updates, 
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> On Oct 22, 2015, at 7:06 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> How do you do power cycling, anyone knows?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Feliciano Godoy  <theblindman...@hotmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:58 pm
> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> glad to hear that power cycling your device fixed that issue. As far as your 
>> notification count for the mail App not matching the actual number of emails 
>> that you have, will opening the mail App and then closing the mail App by 
>> clicking the home button update the email count? If so, your mail app 
>> settings may be set to fetch emails manually when the app is opened.  from 
>> the home screen 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates, 
>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks all, power cycling the phone did the trick to get this working 
>>> again, weird. Is anyone getting the number of unread messages on their home 
>>> screen? I have 47 unread messages yet when I touch mail on the home screen 
>>> it still says no unread messages. This number count does work on text 
>>> messages and phone displaying how many items I have that i have not looked 
>>> at, another strange one. Thanks,
>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> It may have improved, but its still not there. For me, the only 
>>>> improvement I can see is that focus is not being lost. Oh, and apparently 
>>>> it is now read how many messages are in a thread, though, I have that 
>>>> disabled, so not sure about that one.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Les Kriegler  <kriegle...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:24 am
>>>> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't seen that one either. One improvement I've seen in mail is now 
>>>>> Messages download on the mail app is loaded. Would 9.02, I would start 
>>>>> mail in the mail wouldn't generally come in. As I grew impatient, I would 
>>>>> close the app and re-launch it in the mail came in. Now it's coming in is 
>>>>> it supposed to. So in my opinion, mail is much improved in terms of 
>>>>> performance in 9.1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> Strange; I haven't seen this one. What I've seen, though, is when you 
>>>>>> try and delete the message, it won't. Then, 3 attempts is the charm. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: Brian Fischler  <brianfisch...@me.com>
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:00 am
>>>>>> Subject: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
>>>>>>> email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
>>>>>>> reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete 
>>>>>>> a message VO does not read you the next message you have to flick one 
>>>>>>> way then back to have it read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers 
>>>>>>> for VO.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the VIP

Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[rajmund]

Hello,
I noticed when I open mail from the home screen, it says no unread at first, 
but then it rerecognises itself. And yes, before double tapping, I can hear how 
meny are unread, too. Oh, what's the power thing people have mentioned? And how 
do you do it?

Sent from  an iPad using braille screen input. Please excuse any spelling 
errors.

> On 22 Oct 2015, at 2:11 p.m., Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks all, power cycling the phone did the trick to get this working again, 
> weird. Is anyone getting the number of unread messages on their home screen? 
> I have 47 unread messages yet when I touch mail on the home screen it still 
> says no unread messages. This number count does work on text messages and 
> phone displaying how many items I have that i have not looked at, another 
> strange one. Thanks,
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> It may have improved, but its still not there. For me, the only improvement 
>> I can see is that focus is not being lost. Oh, and apparently it is now read 
>> how many messages are in a thread, though, I have that disabled, so not sure 
>> about that one.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Les Kriegler  <kriegle...@gmail.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:24 am
>> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I haven't seen that one either. One improvement I've seen in mail is now 
>>> Messages download on the mail app is loaded. Would 9.02, I would start mail 
>>> in the mail wouldn't generally come in. As I grew impatient, I would close 
>>> the app and re-launch it in the mail came in. Now it's coming in is it 
>>> supposed to. So in my opinion, mail is much improved in terms of 
>>> performance in 9.1.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Strange; I haven't seen this one. What I've seen, though, is when you try 
>>>> and delete the message, it won't. Then, 3 attempts is the charm. 
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Brian Fischler  <brianfisch...@me.com>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:00 am
>>>> Subject: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
>>>>> email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
>>>>> reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a 
>>>>> message VO does not read you the next message you have to flick one way 
>>>>> then back to have it read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers for 
>>>>> VO.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone 
>>>>> list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>>> 
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Richard Turner]

I just wrote apple accessibility this morning about the fact that the mail icon 
on the home screen says "no unread emails" no matter how many unread emails 
there are.
They replied in less than 30 minutes with a work around that fixed it for me.
Go into settings, notifications, and make sure mail notifications are on, and 
set to badges and then it shows the number of unread emails on the home screen 
icon.
Richard


> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:23 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I noticed when I open mail from the home screen, it says no unread at first, 
> but then it rerecognises itself. And yes, before double tapping, I can hear 
> how meny are unread, too. Oh, what's the power thing people have mentioned? 
> And how do you do it?
> 
> Sent from  an iPad using braille screen input. Please excuse any spelling 
> errors.
> 
>> On 22 Oct 2015, at 2:11 p.m., Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks all, power cycling the phone did the trick to get this working again, 
>> weird. Is anyone getting the number of unread messages on their home screen? 
>> I have 47 unread messages yet when I touch mail on the home screen it still 
>> says no unread messages. This number count does work on text messages and 
>> phone displaying how many items I have that i have not looked at, another 
>> strange one. Thanks,
>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> It may have improved, but its still not there. For me, the only improvement 
>>> I can see is that focus is not being lost. Oh, and apparently it is now 
>>> read how many messages are in a thread, though, I have that disabled, so 
>>> not sure about that one.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Les Kriegler  <kriegle...@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:24 am
>>> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't seen that one either. One improvement I've seen in mail is now 
>>>> Messages download on the mail app is loaded. Would 9.02, I would start 
>>>> mail in the mail wouldn't generally come in. As I grew impatient, I would 
>>>> close the app and re-launch it in the mail came in. Now it's coming in is 
>>>> it supposed to. So in my opinion, mail is much improved in terms of 
>>>> performance in 9.1.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Strange; I haven't seen this one. What I've seen, though, is when you try 
>>>>> and delete the message, it won't. Then, 3 attempts is the charm. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Brian Fischler  <brianfisch...@me.com>
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:00 am
>>>>> Subject: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
>>>>>> email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
>>>>>> reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a 
>>>>>> message VO does not read you the next message you have to flick one way 
>>>>>> then back to have it read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers for 
>>>>>> VO.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone 
>>>>>> list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your VIPhone list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at 
>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/.
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>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>

Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Alan Paganelli]

It's working just fine here too.  They also fixed the message in thread count 
issue as well.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:54 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   It’s working here fine. I hear the next message or thread read after I 
> flick up and double tap to delete a message.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
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>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
>> email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
>> reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a 
>> message VO does not read you the next message you have to flick one way then 
>> back to have it read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers for VO.
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Les Kriegler]

Richard, that certainly resolve the issue. Amazing the badges would make that 
much of a difference. I had sounds on but not badges. I typically turn badges 
off and all of my notifications. Maybe I won't. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I just wrote apple accessibility this morning about the fact that the mail 
> icon on the home screen says "no unread emails" no matter how many unread 
> emails there are.
> They replied in less than 30 minutes with a work around that fixed it for me.
> Go into settings, notifications, and make sure mail notifications are on, and 
> set to badges and then it shows the number of unread emails on the home 
> screen icon.
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:23 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I noticed when I open mail from the home screen, it says no unread at first, 
>> but then it rerecognises itself. And yes, before double tapping, I can hear 
>> how meny are unread, too. Oh, what's the power thing people have mentioned? 
>> And how do you do it?
>> 
>> Sent from  an iPad using braille screen input. Please excuse any spelling 
>> errors.
>> 
>>> On 22 Oct 2015, at 2:11 p.m., Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks all, power cycling the phone did the trick to get this working 
>>> again, weird. Is anyone getting the number of unread messages on their home 
>>> screen? I have 47 unread messages yet when I touch mail on the home screen 
>>> it still says no unread messages. This number count does work on text 
>>> messages and phone displaying how many items I have that i have not looked 
>>> at, another strange one. Thanks,
>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> It may have improved, but its still not there. For me, the only 
>>>> improvement I can see is that focus is not being lost. Oh, and apparently 
>>>> it is now read how many messages are in a thread, though, I have that 
>>>> disabled, so not sure about that one.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Les Kriegler  <kriegle...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:24 am
>>>> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't seen that one either. One improvement I've seen in mail is now 
>>>>> Messages download on the mail app is loaded. Would 9.02, I would start 
>>>>> mail in the mail wouldn't generally come in. As I grew impatient, I would 
>>>>> close the app and re-launch it in the mail came in. Now it's coming in is 
>>>>> it supposed to. So in my opinion, mail is much improved in terms of 
>>>>> performance in 9.1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> Strange; I haven't seen this one. What I've seen, though, is when you 
>>>>>> try and delete the message, it won't. Then, 3 attempts is the charm. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: Brian Fischler  <brianfisch...@me.com>
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:00 am
>>>>>> Subject: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
>>>>>>> email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
>>>>>>> reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete 
>>>>>>> a message VO does not read you the next message you have to flick one 
>>>>>>> way then back to have it read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers 
>>>>>>> for VO.
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Brian Fischler]

Thanks all, power cycling the phone did the trick to get this working again, 
weird. Is anyone getting the number of unread messages on their home screen? I 
have 47 unread messages yet when I touch mail on the home screen it still says 
no unread messages. This number count does work on text messages and phone 
displaying how many items I have that i have not looked at, another strange 
one. Thanks,
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> It may have improved, but its still not there. For me, the only improvement I 
> can see is that focus is not being lost. Oh, and apparently it is now read 
> how many messages are in a thread, though, I have that disabled, so not sure 
> about that one.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Les Kriegler  <kriegle...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:24 am
> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I haven't seen that one either. One improvement I've seen in mail is now 
>> Messages download on the mail app is loaded. Would 9.02, I would start mail 
>> in the mail wouldn't generally come in. As I grew impatient, I would close 
>> the app and re-launch it in the mail came in. Now it's coming in is it 
>> supposed to. So in my opinion, mail is much improved in terms of performance 
>> in 9.1.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Strange; I haven't seen this one. What I've seen, though, is when you try 
>>> and delete the message, it won't. Then, 3 attempts is the charm. 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Brian Fischler  <brianfisch...@me.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:00 am
>>> Subject: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
>>>> email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
>>>> reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a 
>>>> message VO does not read you the next message you have to flick one way 
>>>> then back to have it read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers for VO.
>>>> 
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
glad to hear that power cycling your device fixed that issue. As far as your 
notification count for the mail App not matching the actual number of emails 
that you have, will opening the mail App and then closing the mail App by 
clicking the home button update the email count? If so, your mail app settings 
may be set to fetch emails manually when the app is opened.  from the home 
screen 

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> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks all, power cycling the phone did the trick to get this working again, 
> weird. Is anyone getting the number of unread messages on their home screen? 
> I have 47 unread messages yet when I touch mail on the home screen it still 
> says no unread messages. This number count does work on text messages and 
> phone displaying how many items I have that i have not looked at, another 
> strange one. Thanks,
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> It may have improved, but its still not there. For me, the only improvement 
>> I can see is that focus is not being lost. Oh, and apparently it is now read 
>> how many messages are in a thread, though, I have that disabled, so not sure 
>> about that one.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Les Kriegler  <kriegle...@gmail.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:24 am
>> Subject: Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I haven't seen that one either. One improvement I've seen in mail is now 
>>> Messages download on the mail app is loaded. Would 9.02, I would start mail 
>>> in the mail wouldn't generally come in. As I grew impatient, I would close 
>>> the app and re-launch it in the mail came in. Now it's coming in is it 
>>> supposed to. So in my opinion, mail is much improved in terms of 
>>> performance in 9.1.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Strange; I haven't seen this one. What I've seen, though, is when you try 
>>>> and delete the message, it won't. Then, 3 attempts is the charm. 
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Brian Fischler  <brianfisch...@me.com>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:00 am
>>>> Subject: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
>>>>> email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
>>>>> reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a 
>>>>> message VO does not read you the next message you have to flick one way 
>>>>> then back to have it read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers for 
>>>>> VO.
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Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Brian Fischler]

Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your email 
if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start reading you 
your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a message VO does 
not read you the next message you have to flick one way then back to have it 
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[John Panarese]

   It’s working here fine. I hear the next message or thread read after I flick 
up and double tap to delete a message.


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> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
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> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your email 
> if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start reading you 
> your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a message VO does 
> not read you the next message you have to flick one way then back to have it 
> read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers for VO.
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
I am not experiencing this issue on iOS 9.1 on my iPhone 6s. Have you tried to 
power cycle your device and see if the problem still persists?

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> On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your email 
> if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start reading you 
> your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a message VO does 
> not read you the next message you have to flick one way then back to have it 
> read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers for VO.
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Destene Noller]

What you have just described hasn't happened to me at all in iOS 9.1!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your email 
> if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start reading you 
> your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a message VO does 
> not read you the next message you have to flick one way then back to have it 
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Les Kriegler]

John, same here. It's working as it always has.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:54 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   It’s working here fine. I hear the next message or thread read after I 
> flick up and double tap to delete a message.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your 
>> email if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start 
>> reading you your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a 
>> message VO does not read you the next message you have to flick one way then 
>> back to have it read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers for VO.
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Re: Ugh Just Discovered new mail bug in 9.1

[Tom Lange]

Works fine on my iPhone six period

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
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> Ok so it is not a major bug just yet another annoying one. When in your email 
> if you flick up to delete a mail message. VO used to then start reading you 
> your next message, well in 9.1 when you flick up to delete a message VO does 
> not read you the next message you have to flick one way then back to have it 
> read. Geez Apple get some new freaking testers for VO.
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Re: An Old Mail Bug

[Gmail]

Speaking of Mail bugs, has anyone had the problem of Mail going to the next 
message in a thread whem pressing the Previous button? This happens quite often 
to me, and it happens whether I directly press the button or flick to it and 
double-tap.

Thanks,
Qri

> On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:05 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well I'm glad I'm not the only one having focus issues with the mail app. I'd 
> like to encourage others to  post what's happening with them, and, more 
> importantly, write to accessibil...@apple.com to let them know what's up.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think this is an old bug. I thought well, I guess it is an old bug, 
>> but it didn't go away. Focus in the email list has always been wacky. When 
>> you get a new email, of course you don't know this, but the focus switches. 
>> Even sometimes when you delete an email from the middle of the list, the 
>> focus is weird. This has been going on for at least since all of iOS 8.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all. On my iPhone 6 running IOS 9.0.2, I'm noticing an old mail bug that 
>>> I haven't seen since IOS 4 or 5 and it's driving me nuts.  When I open  and 
>>> read a message that's in the middle of a long list, then exit back to the 
>>> list, focus is often placed at the top of the list and I have to scroll 
>>> down to where I left off.  The behavior isn't consistent, which is also 
>>> crazy-making.  Is anybody else out there having this problem?  I wrote to 
>>> Apple Accessibility and got a reply back saying that they can't reproduce 
>>> the problem.
>>> Tom
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: An Old Mail Bug

[Christopher Chaltain]

What version of IOS are you running? I used to see this prior to IOS 9, 
and it was related to the focus bug. If you touched the Next button 
without swiping to it then a double tap might act on an adjacent button, 
like the Prev button. I've found this bug to be fixed in IOS 9.


Also, I think the way the Prev and Next button are supposed to work is 
that the Mail app remembers what direction you're moving in, so the Prev 
and Next button will take you to the next or previous message in that 
direction. This may be the opposite of what you're expecting. I don't 
notice it now, but it seems that when my iPhone was new to me, this 
would always confuse me a bit. IMHO, this wouldn't be a bug if this is 
how it's supposed to work.


On 10/09/2015 02:49 AM, Gmail wrote:

Speaking of Mail bugs, has anyone had the problem of Mail going to the next 
message in a thread whem pressing the Previous button? This happens quite often 
to me, and it happens whether I directly press the button or flick to it and 
double-tap.

Thanks,
Qri


On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:05 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one having focus issues with the mail app. I'd 
like to encourage others to  post what's happening with them, and, more 
importantly, write to accessibil...@apple.com to let them know what's up.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't think this is an old bug. I thought well, I guess it is an old bug, but 
it didn't go away. Focus in the email list has always been wacky. When you get 
a new email, of course you don't know this, but the focus switches. Even 
sometimes when you delete an email from the middle of the list, the focus is 
weird. This has been going on for at least since all of iOS 8.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi all. On my iPhone 6 running IOS 9.0.2, I'm noticing an old mail bug that I 
haven't seen since IOS 4 or 5 and it's driving me nuts.  When I open  and read 
a message that's in the middle of a long list, then exit back to the list, 
focus is often placed at the top of the list and I have to scroll down to where 
I left off.  The behavior isn't consistent, which is also crazy-making.  Is 
anybody else out there having this problem?  I wrote to Apple Accessibility and 
got a reply back saying that they can't reproduce the problem.
Tom
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Re: An Old Mail Bug

[Christopher Chaltain]

You are, and since you're not swiping to the Prev button, you might be 
hitting that explore by touch focus button in IOS 8. try doing a flick 
left and a flick right to get back to the Prev button and double tap. 
See if that fixes your issue. This is the work around I used in IOS 8, 
but it isn't necessary in IOS 9, since that focus bug has been fixed.


On 10/09/2015 07:51 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi. I'm running iOS 8.4. or 8.4.1—whichever one gave us Apple Music—on an 
iPhone 4S. I'm quite used to how the Mail app works. I generreenally start, in 
swiping order, at the last message in a thread, way down at the bottom of the 
screen. After reading that message, I press the previous botton, usually by 
placing my fering on it and performing a split-tap or double-tap on it, to move 
to the reply to the message I just read. Am I making sense?


Thanks,
Ari


On Oct 9, 2015, at 4:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:

What version of IOS are you running? I used to see this prior to IOS 9, and it 
was related to the focus bug. If you touched the Next button without swiping to 
it then a double tap might act on an adjacent button, like the Prev button. 
I've found this bug to be fixed in IOS 9.

Also, I think the way the Prev and Next button are supposed to work is that the 
Mail app remembers what direction you're moving in, so the Prev and Next button 
will take you to the next or previous message in that direction. This may be 
the opposite of what you're expecting. I don't notice it now, but it seems that 
when my iPhone was new to me, this would always confuse me a bit. IMHO, this 
wouldn't be a bug if this is how it's supposed to work.


On 10/09/2015 02:49 AM, Gmail wrote:
Speaking of Mail bugs, has anyone had the problem of Mail going to the next 
message in a thread whem pressing the Previous button? This happens quite often 
to me, and it happens whether I directly press the button or flick to it and 
double-tap.

Thanks,
Qri


On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:05 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one having focus issues with the mail app. I'd 
like to encourage others to  post what's happening with them, and, more 
importantly, write to accessibil...@apple.com to let them know what's up.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't think this is an old bug. I thought well, I guess it is an old bug, but 
it didn't go away. Focus in the email list has always been wacky. When you get 
a new email, of course you don't know this, but the focus switches. Even 
sometimes when you delete an email from the middle of the list, the focus is 
weird. This has been going on for at least since all of iOS 8.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi all. On my iPhone 6 running IOS 9.0.2, I'm noticing an old mail bug that I 
haven't seen since IOS 4 or 5 and it's driving me nuts.  When I open  and read 
a message that's in the middle of a long list, then exit back to the list, 
focus is often placed at the top of the list and I have to scroll down to where 
I left off.  The behavior isn't consistent, which is also crazy-making.  Is 
anybody else out there having this problem?  I wrote to Apple Accessibility and 
got a reply back saying that they can't reproduce the problem.
Tom
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Re: An Old Mail Bug

[englishrider91]

Hi. I'm running iOS 8.4. or 8.4.1—whichever one gave us Apple Music—on an 
iPhone 4S. I'm quite used to how the Mail app works. I generreenally start, in 
swiping order, at the last message in a thread, way down at the bottom of the 
screen. After reading that message, I press the previous botton, usually by 
placing my fering on it and performing a split-tap or double-tap on it, to move 
to the reply to the message I just read. Am I making sense?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Oct 9, 2015, at 4:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> What version of IOS are you running? I used to see this prior to IOS 9, and 
> it was related to the focus bug. If you touched the Next button without 
> swiping to it then a double tap might act on an adjacent button, like the 
> Prev button. I've found this bug to be fixed in IOS 9.
> 
> Also, I think the way the Prev and Next button are supposed to work is that 
> the Mail app remembers what direction you're moving in, so the Prev and Next 
> button will take you to the next or previous message in that direction. This 
> may be the opposite of what you're expecting. I don't notice it now, but it 
> seems that when my iPhone was new to me, this would always confuse me a bit. 
> IMHO, this wouldn't be a bug if this is how it's supposed to work.
> 
>> On 10/09/2015 02:49 AM, Gmail wrote:
>> Speaking of Mail bugs, has anyone had the problem of Mail going to the next 
>> message in a thread whem pressing the Previous button? This happens quite 
>> often to me, and it happens whether I directly press the button or flick to 
>> it and double-tap.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Qri
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:05 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well I'm glad I'm not the only one having focus issues with the mail app. 
>>> I'd like to encourage others to  post what's happening with them, and, more 
>>> importantly, write to accessibil...@apple.com to let them know what's up.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think this is an old bug. I thought well, I guess it is an old 
>>>> bug, but it didn't go away. Focus in the email list has always been wacky. 
>>>> When you get a new email, of course you don't know this, but the focus 
>>>> switches. Even sometimes when you delete an email from the middle of the 
>>>> list, the focus is weird. This has been going on for at least since all of 
>>>> iOS 8.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all. On my iPhone 6 running IOS 9.0.2, I'm noticing an old mail bug 
>>>>> that I haven't seen since IOS 4 or 5 and it's driving me nuts.  When I 
>>>>> open  and read a message that's in the middle of a long list, then exit 
>>>>> back to the list, focus is often placed at the top of the list and I have 
>>>>> to scroll down to where I left off.  The behavior isn't consistent, which 
>>>>> is also crazy-making.  Is anybody else out there having this problem?  I 
>>>>> wrote to Apple Accessibility and got a reply back saying that they can't 
>>>>> reproduce the problem.
>>>>> Tom
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: An Old Mail Bug

[englishrider91]

I'll do that. I'm holding off on upgrading to iOS 9, as while Apple's fixed a 
lot, they've also messed up some things I rely on quite heavily—but that's nie 
here nor there. I'm glad that focus bug's been fixed, though.
 
Thanks,
Ari

> On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:57 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You are, and since you're not swiping to the Prev button, you might be 
> hitting that explore by touch focus button in IOS 8. try doing a flick left 
> and a flick right to get back to the Prev button and double tap. See if that 
> fixes your issue. This is the work around I used in IOS 8, but it isn't 
> necessary in IOS 9, since that focus bug has been fixed.
> 
>> On 10/09/2015 07:51 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi. I'm running iOS 8.4. or 8.4.1—whichever one gave us Apple Music—on an 
>> iPhone 4S. I'm quite used to how the Mail app works. I generreenally start, 
>> in swiping order, at the last message in a thread, way down at the bottom of 
>> the screen. After reading that message, I press the previous botton, usually 
>> by placing my fering on it and performing a split-tap or double-tap on it, 
>> to move to the reply to the message I just read. Am I making sense?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 4:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What version of IOS are you running? I used to see this prior to IOS 9, and 
>>> it was related to the focus bug. If you touched the Next button without 
>>> swiping to it then a double tap might act on an adjacent button, like the 
>>> Prev button. I've found this bug to be fixed in IOS 9.
>>> 
>>> Also, I think the way the Prev and Next button are supposed to work is that 
>>> the Mail app remembers what direction you're moving in, so the Prev and 
>>> Next button will take you to the next or previous message in that 
>>> direction. This may be the opposite of what you're expecting. I don't 
>>> notice it now, but it seems that when my iPhone was new to me, this would 
>>> always confuse me a bit. IMHO, this wouldn't be a bug if this is how it's 
>>> supposed to work.
>>> 
>>>> On 10/09/2015 02:49 AM, Gmail wrote:
>>>> Speaking of Mail bugs, has anyone had the problem of Mail going to the 
>>>> next message in a thread whem pressing the Previous button? This happens 
>>>> quite often to me, and it happens whether I directly press the button or 
>>>> flick to it and double-tap.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Qri
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:05 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well I'm glad I'm not the only one having focus issues with the mail app. 
>>>>> I'd like to encourage others to  post what's happening with them, and, 
>>>>> more importantly, write to accessibil...@apple.com to let them know 
>>>>> what's up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't think this is an old bug. I thought well, I guess it is an old 
>>>>>> bug, but it didn't go away. Focus in the email list has always been 
>>>>>> wacky. When you get a new email, of course you don't know this, but the 
>>>>>> focus switches. Even sometimes when you delete an email from the middle 
>>>>>> of the list, the focus is weird. This has been going on for at least 
>>>>>> since all of iOS 8.
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all. On my iPhone 6 running IOS 9.0.2, I'm noticing an old mail bug 
>>>>>>> that I haven't seen since IOS 4 or 5 and it's driving me nuts.  When I 
>>>>>>> open  and read a message that's in the middle of a long list, then exit 
>>>>>>> back to the list, focus is often placed at the top of the list and I 
>>>>>>> have to scroll down to where I left off.  The behavior isn't 
>>>>>>> consistent, which is also crazy-making.  Is anybody else out there 
>>>>>>> having this problem?  I wrote to Apple Access

Re: An Old Mail Bug

[Tom Lange]

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one having focus issues with the mail app. I'd 
like to encourage others to  post what's happening with them, and, more 
importantly, write to accessibil...@apple.com to let them know what's up.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't think this is an old bug. I thought well, I guess it is an old bug, 
> but it didn't go away. Focus in the email list has always been wacky. When 
> you get a new email, of course you don't know this, but the focus switches. 
> Even sometimes when you delete an email from the middle of the list, the 
> focus is weird. This has been going on for at least since all of iOS 8.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all. On my iPhone 6 running IOS 9.0.2, I'm noticing an old mail bug that 
>> I haven't seen since IOS 4 or 5 and it's driving me nuts.  When I open  and 
>> read a message that's in the middle of a long list, then exit back to the 
>> list, focus is often placed at the top of the list and I have to scroll down 
>> to where I left off.  The behavior isn't consistent, which is also 
>> crazy-making.  Is anybody else out there having this problem?  I wrote to 
>> Apple Accessibility and got a reply back saying that they can't reproduce 
>> the problem.
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Re: An Old Mail Bug

[Mary Otten]

I don't think this is an old bug. I thought well, I guess it is an old bug, but 
it didn't go away. Focus in the email list has always been wacky. When you get 
a new email, of course you don't know this, but the focus switches. Even 
sometimes when you delete an email from the middle of the list, the focus is 
weird. This has been going on for at least since all of iOS 8.
Mary


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> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> 
> Hi all. On my iPhone 6 running IOS 9.0.2, I'm noticing an old mail bug that I 
> haven't seen since IOS 4 or 5 and it's driving me nuts.  When I open  and 
> read a message that's in the middle of a long list, then exit back to the 
> list, focus is often placed at the top of the list and I have to scroll down 
> to where I left off.  The behavior isn't consistent, which is also 
> crazy-making.  Is anybody else out there having this problem?  I wrote to 
> Apple Accessibility and got a reply back saying that they can't reproduce the 
> problem.
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Re: An Old Mail Bug

[jose . lomeli0]

I'm having the same issue.

Jose Lomeli
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> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
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> Hi all. On my iPhone 6 running IOS 9.0.2, I'm noticing an old mail bug that I 
> haven't seen since IOS 4 or 5 and it's driving me nuts.  When I open  and 
> read a message that's in the middle of a long list, then exit back to the 
> list, focus is often placed at the top of the list and I have to scroll down 
> to where I left off.  The behavior isn't consistent, which is also 
> crazy-making.  Is anybody else out there having this problem?  I wrote to 
> Apple Accessibility and got a reply back saying that they can't reproduce the 
> problem.
> Tom
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An Old Mail Bug

[Tom Lange]

Hi all. On my iPhone 6 running IOS 9.0.2, I'm noticing an old mail bug that I 
haven't seen since IOS 4 or 5 and it's driving me nuts.  When I open  and read 
a message that's in the middle of a long list, then exit back to the list, 
focus is often placed at the top of the list and I have to scroll down to where 
I left off.  The behavior isn't consistent, which is also crazy-making.  Is 
anybody else out there having this problem?  I wrote to Apple Accessibility and 
got a reply back saying that they can't reproduce the problem.
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Re: An Old Mail Bug

[Rajmund]

Hello Tom,
Here's what I can see. If I get a new message while reading one, I lose my 
place, and have to start all over. Is this similar? 

- Original Message -
From: Tom Lange  <lang...@gmail.com>
To: vi-phone list  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Friday, October 9, 2015 1:12 am
Subject: An Old Mail Bug

>
>
> 
> Hi all. On my iPhone 6 running IOS 9.0.2, I'm noticing an old mail bug that I 
> haven't seen since IOS 4 or 5 and it's driving me nuts.  When I open  and 
> read a message that's in the middle of a long list, then exit back to the 
> list, focus is often placed at the top of the list and I have to scroll down 
> to where I left off.  The behavior isn't consistent, which is also 
> crazy-making.  Is anybody else out there having this problem?  I wrote to 
> Apple Accessibility and got a reply back saying that they can't reproduce the 
> problem.
> Tom
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a e-mail bug

[Cathy]

I have an i-phone 5 and I have updated to the latest version, version 8, and am 
having problems and am wondering if this is a bug, and a known bug to Apple.  I 
am wondering if any one else is having this problem.  When I try to share a 
contact card to another i-phone owner, it will not let me.  I hit the send, and 
nothing happens.  I love this and really hope this is just a bug.  Also when I 
was trying to share a picture, i ran into the same problem.  I was able to 
figure out another way to do it, but I can not figure out how to share a 
contact card.  Is anyone else having issues like this?
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RE: a e-mail bug

[Richard Turner]

This sounds like a similar problem.  Try double tapping and hold and then do
another double tap on the send button and see if that works.  Not a great
work around, but in other situations that has worked for me.

 

Richard

 

 

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Subject: a e-mail bug

 

I have an i-phone 5 and I have updated to the latest version, version 8, and
am having problems and am wondering if this is a bug, and a known bug to
Apple.  I am wondering if any one else is having this problem.  When I try
to share a contact card to another i-phone owner, it will not let me.  I hit
the send, and nothing happens.  I love this and really hope this is just a
bug.  Also when I was trying to share a picture, i ran into the same
problem.  I was able to figure out another way to do it, but I can not
figure out how to share a contact card.  Is anyone else having issues like
this?

Cathy  Pilot Dog, Tiny:

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Mail bug Orveto bug?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
I've noticed, with the new update, the new iOS update, the VO seems to be 
reading one more email message then there actually is. Meaning, if I have no 
unread messages in my mail, and I exit, the doc email app always says when new 
item. And, if I go back into my email, it has No unread messages. Meaning, the 
mail app always seems to think there is an unread message, but in all actually 
there isn't. Make sense? Or am I totally off my rocker!

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Re: Mail bug Orveto bug?

[Alan Paganelli]

Did you look in all mail folders?  There is also an iCloud folder too.  I found 
a message in there the other day.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jenifer Barr 
  To: iPhone List 
  Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 4:26 PM
  Subject: Mail bug Orveto bug?


  Hi all.
  I've noticed, with the new update, the new iOS update, the VO seems to be 
reading one more email message then there actually is. Meaning, if I have no 
unread messages in my mail, and I exit, the doc email app always says when new 
item. And, if I go back into my email, it has No unread messages. Meaning, the 
mail app always seems to think there is an unread message, but in all actually 
there isn't. Make sense? Or am I totally off my rocker!

  Jenifer Barr
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