Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
which GpsApps have you tried? - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Greetings to the list. I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions. I'm trying to understand this problem. Perhaps I am performing an action to disable VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real. Can anyone shed light on this concern? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
Hello, Pablo. I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far. If I lose the ap's internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other will restore it. As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real. The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing without my knowledge. Craig On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: which GpsApps have you tried? - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Greetings to the list. I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions. I'm trying to understand this problem. Perhaps I am performing an action to disable VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real. Can anyone shed light on this concern? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
Hi Craig Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no problems with VO in these apps that I work with P - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Hello, Pablo. I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far. If I lose the ap's internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other will restore it. As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real. The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing without my knowledge. Craig On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: which GpsApps have you tried? - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Greetings to the list. I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions. I'm trying to understand this problem. Perhaps I am performing an action to disable VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real. Can anyone shed light on this concern? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
How are you toggling VO? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Craig Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no problems with VO in these apps that I work with P - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Hello, Pablo. I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far. If I lose the ap's internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other will restore it. As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real. The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing without my knowledge. Craig On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: which GpsApps have you tried? - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Greetings to the list. I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions. I'm trying to understand this problem. Perhaps I am performing an action to disable VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real. Can anyone shed light on this concern? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap home button gesture. Craig On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: How are you toggling VO? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Craig Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no problems with VO in these apps that I work with P - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Hello, Pablo. I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far. If I lose the ap's internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other will restore it. As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real. The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing without my knowledge. Craig On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: which GpsApps have you tried? - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Greetings to the list. I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions. I'm trying to understand this problem. Perhaps I am performing an action to disable VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real. Can anyone shed light on this concern? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
As far as I am aware, you should not be experiencing such. If You were muting VO with a three finger double tap, it might make more sense. However, as you are completely removing VO from the system, the apps' voice guidance features should not be effected, unless voice guidance is using the Apple built-in speech, and turning VO off is taking precedence over the apps' call to built-in speech. Come to think of it, that may well be what is occurring. If you leave VO off before you launch the app and voice guidance then works, this is likely what is going on. You will need a sighted person to help test this theory. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 14:38, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap home button gesture. Craig On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: How are you toggling VO? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Craig Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no problems with VO in these apps that I work with P - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Hello, Pablo. I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far. If I lose the ap's internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other will restore it. As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real. The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing without my knowledge. Craig On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: which GpsApps have you tried? - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Greetings to the list. I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions. I'm trying to understand this problem. Perhaps I am performing an action to disable VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real. Can anyone shed light on this concern? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because
Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
David, you mention Apple's built-in speech. Would this have been a feature of older iPhones? I neglected to say that my testing is occurring on an iPhone 3GS using iOS 5.1. Craig On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I am aware, you should not be experiencing such. If You were muting VO with a three finger double tap, it might make more sense. However, as you are completely removing VO from the system, the apps' voice guidance features should not be effected, unless voice guidance is using the Apple built-in speech, and turning VO off is taking precedence over the apps' call to built-in speech. Come to think of it, that may well be what is occurring. If you leave VO off before you launch the app and voice guidance then works, this is likely what is going on. You will need a sighted person to help test this theory. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 14:38, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap home button gesture. Craig On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: How are you toggling VO? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Craig Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no problems with VO in these apps that I work with P - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Hello, Pablo. I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far. If I lose the ap's internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other will restore it. As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real. The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing without my knowledge. Craig On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: which GpsApps have you tried? - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Greetings to the list. I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions. I'm trying to understand this problem. Perhaps I am performing an action to disable VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real. Can anyone shed light on this concern? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone
Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
Yes, it's the same on all iOS devices. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 16:57, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: David, you mention Apple's built-in speech. Would this have been a feature of older iPhones? I neglected to say that my testing is occurring on an iPhone 3GS using iOS 5.1. Craig On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I am aware, you should not be experiencing such. If You were muting VO with a three finger double tap, it might make more sense. However, as you are completely removing VO from the system, the apps' voice guidance features should not be effected, unless voice guidance is using the Apple built-in speech, and turning VO off is taking precedence over the apps' call to built-in speech. Come to think of it, that may well be what is occurring. If you leave VO off before you launch the app and voice guidance then works, this is likely what is going on. You will need a sighted person to help test this theory. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 14:38, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap home button gesture. Craig On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: How are you toggling VO? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Craig Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no problems with VO in these apps that I work with P - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Hello, Pablo. I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far. If I lose the ap's internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other will restore it. As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real. The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing without my knowledge. Craig On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: which GpsApps have you tried? - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Greetings to the list. I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions. I'm trying to understand this problem. Perhaps I am performing an action to disable VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real. Can anyone shed light on this concern? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en
Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
David, I'll check with VoiceOver toggled off before the app is launched. Craig On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it's the same on all iOS devices. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 16:57, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: David, you mention Apple's built-in speech. Would this have been a feature of older iPhones? I neglected to say that my testing is occurring on an iPhone 3GS using iOS 5.1. Craig On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I am aware, you should not be experiencing such. If You were muting VO with a three finger double tap, it might make more sense. However, as you are completely removing VO from the system, the apps' voice guidance features should not be effected, unless voice guidance is using the Apple built-in speech, and turning VO off is taking precedence over the apps' call to built-in speech. Come to think of it, that may well be what is occurring. If you leave VO off before you launch the app and voice guidance then works, this is likely what is going on. You will need a sighted person to help test this theory. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 14:38, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap home button gesture. Craig On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: How are you toggling VO? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Craig Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no problems with VO in these apps that I work with P - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Hello, Pablo. I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far. If I lose the ap's internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other will restore it. As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real. The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing without my knowledge. Craig On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: which GpsApps have you tried? - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Greetings to the list. I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions. I'm trying to understand this problem. Perhaps I am performing an action to disable VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real. Can anyone shed light on this concern? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
Hi all, I have some apps for Spanish that use audible recordings. If voiceover is on, it lowers the volume of the Spanish app and I have to keep voiceover off for it to work correctly. I don't know if this is what you're talking about but I thought I would put it in for what it's worth. I know that this is the way voiceover is supposed to work, so perhaps voiceover should be off before the app is launched. God bless, Wren Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: David, I'll check with VoiceOver toggled off before the app is launched. Craig On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it's the same on all iOS devices. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 16:57, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: David, you mention Apple's built-in speech. Would this have been a feature of older iPhones? I neglected to say that my testing is occurring on an iPhone 3GS using iOS 5.1. Craig On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I am aware, you should not be experiencing such. If You were muting VO with a three finger double tap, it might make more sense. However, as you are completely removing VO from the system, the apps' voice guidance features should not be effected, unless voice guidance is using the Apple built-in speech, and turning VO off is taking precedence over the apps' call to built-in speech. Come to think of it, that may well be what is occurring. If you leave VO off before you launch the app and voice guidance then works, this is likely what is going on. You will need a sighted person to help test this theory. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 14:38, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap home button gesture. Craig On 1/27/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: How are you toggling VO? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Craig Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon and motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways work fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am talking about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no problems with VO in these apps that I work with P - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Hello, Pablo. I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far. If I lose the ap's internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other will restore it. As I said, I don't even know if the problem is real. The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing without my knowledge. Craig On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote: which GpsApps have you tried? - Original Message - From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps Greetings to the list. I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed that from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut down the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions. I'm trying to understand this problem. Perhaps I am performing an action to disable VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real. Can anyone shed light on this concern? Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone