Hi all, I have some apps for Spanish that use audible recordings. If voiceover 
is on, it lowers the volume of the Spanish app and I have to keep voiceover off 
for it to work correctly. I don't know if this is what you're talking about but 
I thought I would put it in for what it's worth. I know that this is the way 
voiceover is supposed to work, so perhaps voiceover should be off before the 
app is launched. God bless, Wren

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On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> David, I'll check with VoiceOver toggled off before the app is launched.
> 
> Craig
> 
> On 1/27/13, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, it's the same on all iOS devices.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
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>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 28/01/2013, at 16:57, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> David, you mention Apple's built-in speech.  Would this have been a
>>> feature of older iPhones?  I neglected to say that my testing is
>>> occurring on an iPhone 3GS using iOS 5.1.
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> On 1/27/13, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> As far as I am aware, you should not be experiencing such. If You were
>>>> muting VO with a three finger double tap, it might make more sense.
>>>> However,
>>>> as you are completely removing VO from the system, the apps' voice
>>>> guidance
>>>> features should not be effected, unless voice guidance is using the
>>>> Apple
>>>> built-in speech, and turning VO off is taking precedence over the apps'
>>>> call
>>>> to built-in speech. Come to think of it, that may well be what is
>>>> occurring.
>>>> If you leave VO off before you launch the app and voice guidance then
>>>> works,
>>>> this is likely what is going on. You will need a sighted person to help
>>>> test
>>>> this theory.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 28/01/2013, at 14:38, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> David, I am toggling VoiceOver with the triple-tap "home" button
>>>>> gesture.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Craig
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/27/13, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> How are you toggling VO?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28/01/2013, at 3:40, "Pablo Morales" <pablomorale...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Craig
>>>>>>> Well, I don't know those apps yet, even though I work with navigon
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> motionX gps, and when I try to do those things, voice over allways
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> fine. Just these apps makes my iPhone a little bit slower. I am
>>>>>>> talking
>>>>>>> about a iPhone 4s, so I don't know how it goes in iPhone 5. But no
>>>>>>> problems with VO in these apps that I work with
>>>>>>> P
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Werner"
>>>>>>> <coffeeb...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:20 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello, Pablo.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have tried Google Maps and MapQuest so far.  If I lose the ap's
>>>>>>>> internal voice guide, toggling VoiceOver from one state to the other
>>>>>>>> will restore it.  As I said, I don't even know if the problem is
>>>>>>>> real.
>>>>>>>> The phenomenon may be being triggered by an action I am performing
>>>>>>>> without my knowledge.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 1/27/13, Pablo Morales <pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> which GpsApps have you tried?
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Craig Werner" <coffeeb...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "viphone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:55 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Possible Conflict Involving VoiceOver and Some GPS Apps
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Greetings to the list.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I am evaluating some GPS apps for the iPhone, and I have noticed
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> from time to time, disabling or enabling VoiceOver seems to shut
>>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>> the app's own voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions.  I'm trying
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> understand this problem.  Perhaps I am performing an action to
>>>>>>>>>> disable
>>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver; on the other hand, perhaps this problem is real.  Can
>>>>>>>>>> anyone shed light on this concern?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for all help.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Craig
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