RE: Question about Voiceover?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Oh, I addressed this on the wrong list. 

Yes, Richard had a great idea. I moved Pitch from 50 to 70%, and I can hear 
better, when on phone conversation. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover?

Ultimately, though, if that doesn't work, the too-loudness problem is probably 
third-party at the other end of the phone line.


On 6/18/2024 10:35 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
> OK, I'll try higher and see what happens, thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 2:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question about Voiceover?
>
> Pitch does not increase the sound, but perhaps one person hears a different 
> pitch better than another pitch.  So, experimenting with the pitch could help.
> I know people who can hear higher pitches better, and others who hear lower 
> pitches better.
> No harm in trying.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than 
> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 11:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question about Voiceover?
>
> How could pitch increase the sound of Voiceover, when I am on a call?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 9:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover?
>
> If its the tone that is giving you a problem then then go into voiceover 
> speech and change the pitch.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Carolyn Arnold" <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
> To: "viPhone" 
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:51 PM
> Subject: Question about Voiceover?
>
>
> Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a phone call, say 
> at the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you want to punch in 
> the number for something or doctor clinic, when you want to punch the number 
> for the nurse's extension? I have a real hard time, and I've tried with Audio 
> Ducking off and with it on, no help.
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Re: Question about Voiceover?

[Flor Lynch]

Ultimately, though, if that doesn't work, the too-loudness problem is 
probably third-party at the other end of the phone line.



On 6/18/2024 10:35 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:

OK, I'll try higher and see what happens, thanks.

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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 2:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Question about Voiceover?

Pitch does not increase the sound, but perhaps one person hears a different 
pitch better than another pitch.  So, experimenting with the pitch could help.
I know people who can hear higher pitches better, and others who hear lower 
pitches better.
No harm in trying.



Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to 
stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell 
Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 11:42 AM
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Subject: RE: Question about Voiceover?

How could pitch increase the sound of Voiceover, when I am on a call?

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Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover?

If its the tone that is giving you a problem then then go into voiceover speech 
and change the pitch.
- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
To: "viPhone" 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:51 PM
Subject: Question about Voiceover?


Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a phone call, say at 
the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you want to punch in the 
number for something or doctor clinic, when you want to punch the number for 
the nurse's extension? I have a real hard time, and I've tried with Audio 
Ducking off and with it on, no help.

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RE: Question about Voiceover?

[Carolyn Arnold]

OK, I'll try higher and see what happens, thanks. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Voiceover?

Pitch does not increase the sound, but perhaps one person hears a different 
pitch better than another pitch.  So, experimenting with the pitch could help.
I know people who can hear higher pitches better, and others who hear lower 
pitches better.
No harm in trying.



Richard, USA
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disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 11:42 AM
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Subject: RE: Question about Voiceover?

How could pitch increase the sound of Voiceover, when I am on a call? 

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Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover?

If its the tone that is giving you a problem then then go into voiceover speech 
and change the pitch.
- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
To: "viPhone" 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:51 PM
Subject: Question about Voiceover?


Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a phone call, say at 
the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you want to punch in the 
number for something or doctor clinic, when you want to punch the number for 
the nurse's extension? I have a real hard time, and I've tried with Audio 
Ducking off and with it on, no help.

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RE: Question about Voiceover?

[Richard Turner]

Pitch does not increase the sound, but perhaps one person hears a different 
pitch better than another pitch.  So, experimenting with the pitch could help.
I know people who can hear higher pitches better, and others who hear lower 
pitches better.
No harm in trying.



Richard, USA
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disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Voiceover?

How could pitch increase the sound of Voiceover, when I am on a call? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover?

If its the tone that is giving you a problem then then go into voiceover speech 
and change the pitch.
- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
To: "viPhone" 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:51 PM
Subject: Question about Voiceover?


Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a phone call, say at 
the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you want to punch in the 
number for something or doctor clinic, when you want to punch the number for 
the nurse's extension? I have a real hard time, and I've tried with Audio 
Ducking off and with it on, no help.

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RE: Question about Voiceover?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have it on. That has not solved the problem either. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 12:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Question about Voiceover?

Make sure as well that audio ducking is on, this lowers the volume of other 
audio when Voiceover is speaking.

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From: 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover?

Yes I have a difficult time hearing voice over. The voice or music on the other 
end of the line is much louder, and when I turn the volume up to hear voice 
over, the volume on the other end becomes louder drowning out voice over. I 
haven't figured out how to fix this.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 17, 2024, at 5:52 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a phone 
> call, say at the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you 
> want to punch in the number for something or doctor clinic, when you 
> want to punch the number for the nurse's extension? I have a real hard 
> time, and I've tried with Audio Ducking off and with it on, no help.
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RE: Question about Voiceover?

[Carolyn Arnold]

On my rotor, volume is at 100% - can't get it any louder than that. 

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Mario Eiland
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about Voiceover?

Hi Candie,
Are you aware that you can isolate VoiceOver's volume by adding it to the 
rotor, and instead of using the volume buttons on your iPhone you would use the 
volume control on the rotor? Otherwise when you  use the hard volume buttons of 
the iPhone you turn up or down the volume to everything.
Try the following:
Go to settings > Accessibility > > VoiceOver > Rotor > Rotor Items > Volume 
Swipe until you locate the volume option. Make sure that the Volume option is 
selected and that should place it in the rotor. Now look for it on the rotor 
and when you hear it announce either flick up to turn up or flick down to turn 
down the volume.
I hope that helps!

-Original Message-
From: 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover?

Yes I have a difficult time hearing voice over. The voice or music on the other 
end of the line is much louder, and when I turn the volume up to hear voice 
over, the volume on the other end becomes louder drowning out voice over. I 
haven't figured out how to fix this.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 17, 2024, at 5:52 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a phone 
> call, say at the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you 
> want to punch in the number for something or doctor clinic, when you 
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RE: Question about Voiceover?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yes, it is on my rotor, but that did not work the other day. I'll give it a try 
again though. 

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Matt White
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 2:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover?

I believe you need to have volume added to your voiceover rotor and then you 
can adjust the voiceover specific volume from there. I think it might be there 
by default, but maybe I change that along time ago I don’t remember.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2024, at 02:35, 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes I have a difficult time hearing voice over. The voice or music on the 
> other end of the line is much louder, and when I turn the volume up to hear 
> voice over, the volume on the other end becomes louder drowning out voice 
> over. I haven't figured out how to fix this.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 17, 2024, at 5:52 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a phone 
>> call, say at the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you 
>> want to punch in the number for something or doctor clinic, when you 
>> want to punch the number for the nurse's extension? I have a real 
>> hard time, and I've tried with Audio Ducking off and with it on, no 
>> help.
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RE: Question about Voiceover?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yes, I have the exact, same problem. That is a perfect description. 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 2:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover?

Yes I have a difficult time hearing voice over. The voice or music on the other 
end of the line is much louder, and when I turn the volume up to hear voice 
over, the volume on the other end becomes louder drowning out voice over. I 
haven't figured out how to fix this.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 17, 2024, at 5:52 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a phone 
> call, say at the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you 
> want to punch in the number for something or doctor clinic, when you 
> want to punch the number for the nurse's extension? I have a real hard 
> time, and I've tried with Audio Ducking off and with it on, no help.
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RE: Question about Voiceover?

[Carolyn Arnold]

How could pitch increase the sound of Voiceover, when I am on a call? 

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Robert Doc Wright
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If its the tone that is giving you a problem then then go into voiceover speech 
and change the pitch.
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To: "viPhone" 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 4:51 PM
Subject: Question about Voiceover?


Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a phone call, say at 
the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you want to punch in the 
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the nurse's extension? I have a real hard time, and I've tried with Audio 
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RE: Question about Voiceover?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I use Bluetooth to my hearing aids. 

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Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 7:19 PM
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No I do not, because I usually us either bluetooth headphones or a bluetooth 
speaker.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!

> On Jun 17, 2024, at 5:51 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a phone 
> call, say at the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you 
> want to punch in the number for something or doctor clinic, when you 
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RE: Question about Voiceover?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Make sure as well that audio ducking is on, this lowers the volume of other 
audio when Voiceover is speaking.

-Original Message-
From: 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover?

Yes I have a difficult time hearing voice over. The voice or music on the other 
end of the line is much louder, and when I turn the volume up to hear voice 
over, the volume on the other end becomes louder drowning out voice over. I 
haven't figured out how to fix this.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 17, 2024, at 5:52 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a phone 
> call, say at the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you 
> want to punch in the number for something or doctor clinic, when you 
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RE: Question about Voiceover?

[Mario Eiland]

Hi Candie,
Are you aware that you can isolate VoiceOver's volume by adding it to the 
rotor, and instead of using the volume buttons on your iPhone you would use the 
volume control on the rotor? Otherwise when you  use the hard volume buttons of 
the iPhone you turn up or down the volume to everything.
Try the following:
Go to settings > Accessibility > > VoiceOver > Rotor > Rotor Items > Volume
Swipe until you locate the volume option. Make sure that the Volume option is 
selected and that should place it in the rotor. Now look for it on the rotor 
and when you hear it announce either flick up to turn up or flick down to turn 
down the volume.
I hope that helps!

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From: 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 11:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Voiceover?

Yes I have a difficult time hearing voice over. The voice or music on the other 
end of the line is much louder, and when I turn the volume up to hear voice 
over, the volume on the other end becomes louder drowning out voice over. I 
haven't figured out how to fix this.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 17, 2024, at 5:52 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a phone 
> call, say at the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you 
> want to punch in the number for something or doctor clinic, when you 
> want to punch the number for the nurse's extension? I have a real hard 
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Re: Question about Voiceover?

[Matt White]

I believe you need to have volume added to your voiceover rotor and then you 
can adjust the voiceover specific volume from there. I think it might be there 
by default, but maybe I change that along time ago I don’t remember.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2024, at 02:35, 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes I have a difficult time hearing voice over. The voice or music on the 
> other end of the line is much louder, and when I turn the volume up to hear 
> voice over, the volume on the other end becomes louder drowning out voice 
> over. I haven't figured out how to fix this.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 17, 2024, at 5:52 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a
>> phone call, say at the pharmacy, when they are giving
>> information and you want to punch in the number for
>> something or doctor clinic, when you want to punch the
>> number for the nurse's extension? I have a real hard time,
>> and I've tried with Audio Ducking off and with it on, no
>> help.  
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Re: Question about Voiceover?

['Candie Stiles' via VIPhone]

Yes I have a difficult time hearing voice over. The voice or music on the other 
end of the line is much louder, and when I turn the volume up to hear voice 
over, the volume on the other end becomes louder drowning out voice over. I 
haven't figured out how to fix this.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 17, 2024, at 5:52 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a
> phone call, say at the pharmacy, when they are giving
> information and you want to punch in the number for
> something or doctor clinic, when you want to punch the
> number for the nurse's extension? I have a real hard time,
> and I've tried with Audio Ducking off and with it on, no
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Re: Question about Voiceover?

[Evan Reese]

I guess I should add that what I described below is what I am doing in 
the privacy of my own home.


If I were out in public and making calls where I had to enter sensitive 
information, then I would definitely make sure my screen curtain is on 
and I would certainly be using earbuds or earphones of some sort.


Evan


On 6/17/2024 9:54 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
If I am understanding your question correctly, I just hold the iPhone 
away from my ear, putting it on speaker phone.


Then, I can hear VoiceOver just fine, and I can punch in any numbers 
on the keypad that I need.


I do it when I call my bank pretty regularly, where I have to enter my 
checking account number.


Evan

On 6/17/2024 6:51 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:

Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a
phone call, say at the pharmacy, when they are giving
information and you want to punch in the number for
something or doctor clinic, when you want to punch the
number for the nurse's extension? I have a real hard time,
and I've tried with Audio Ducking off and with it on, no
help.



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Re: Question about Voiceover?

[Evan Reese]

If I am understanding your question correctly, I just hold the iPhone 
away from my ear, putting it on speaker phone.


Then, I can hear VoiceOver just fine, and I can punch in any numbers on 
the keypad that I need.


I do it when I call my bank pretty regularly, where I have to enter my 
checking account number.


Evan

On 6/17/2024 6:51 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:

Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a
phone call, say at the pharmacy, when they are giving
information and you want to punch in the number for
something or doctor clinic, when you want to punch the
number for the nurse's extension? I have a real hard time,
and I've tried with Audio Ducking off and with it on, no
help.



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Re: Question about Voiceover?

[Robert Doc Wright]

If its the tone that is giving you a problem then then go into voiceover 
speech and change the pitch.
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Subject: Question about Voiceover?


Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a
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RE: Question about Voiceover?

[Mario Eiland]

I find it easier to manage this process by using either headphones or my 
airpods.

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Subject: Question about Voiceover?

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the pharmacy, when they are giving information and you want to punch in the 
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Re: Question about Voiceover?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

No I do not, because I usually us either bluetooth headphones or a bluetooth 
speaker.
Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!

> On Jun 17, 2024, at 5:51 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> information and you want to punch in the number for
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Question about Voiceover?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Do any of you have a hard time hearing Voiceover, when on a
phone call, say at the pharmacy, when they are giving
information and you want to punch in the number for
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RE: Question about Voiceover and Bluetooth.

[Carolyn]

Audio ducking was on. It's so hard to hear, hard to manage rotor. 

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Flor Lynch
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Or, turn Audio Ducking ON? 


I had volume in my Rotor before, but grew tired of inadvertently changing it. 


I have a Braille display also, and use Hearing aids with Bluetooth. My personal 
preference is to leave Audio Ducking OFF. 





On 25/08/2022 15:33, Wayne Scott wrote:


The only thing I can think of is to turn VoiceOver up with the 
VoiceOver volume on the rotor. I also use bluetooth and hearing aids. I also 
use a braille display. 


Wayne Scott   
 


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I was using Bluetooth with my hearing aids and on a call. I 
wanted to check something else while on the call, but Voiceover was very, very 
low, and if I tried turning it up, the phone caller’s voice got louder. Any 
ideas about what to do about that? 

 

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RE: Question about Voiceover and Bluetooth.

[Carolyn]

Thanks, Wayne. I'll try that. 

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The only thing I can think of is to turn VoiceOver up with the VoiceOver volume 
on the rotor. I also use bluetooth and hearing aids. I also use a braille 
display. 


Wayne Scott  
 


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I was using Bluetooth with my hearing aids and on a call. I wanted to 
check something else while on the call, but Voiceover was very, very low, and 
if I tried turning it up, the phone caller’s voice got louder. Any ideas about 
what to do about that? 

 



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Re: Question about Voiceover and Bluetooth.

[Flor Lynch]

Or, turn Audio Ducking ON?

I had volume in my Rotor before, but grew tired of inadvertently 
changing it.


I have a Braille display also, and use Hearing aids with Bluetooth. My 
personal preference is to leave Audio Ducking OFF.



On 25/08/2022 15:33, Wayne Scott wrote:
The only thing I can think of is to turn VoiceOver up with the 
VoiceOver volume on the rotor. I also use bluetooth and hearing aids. 
I also use a braille display.


Wayne Scott


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*I was using Bluetooth with my hearing aids and on a call. I wanted 
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very low, and if I tried turning it up, the phone caller’s voice got 
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Re: Question about Voiceover and Bluetooth.

[Wayne Scott]

The only thing I can think of is to turn VoiceOver up with the VoiceOver volume 
on the rotor. I also use bluetooth and hearing aids. I also use a braille 
display. 

Wayne Scott  
 

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Question about Voiceover and Bluetooth.

[Carolyn]

I was using Bluetooth with my hearing aids and on a call. I
wanted to check something else while on the call, but
Voiceover was very, very low, and if I tried turning it up,
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Re: question about VoiceOver Recognition

[Anna Dresner]

Yes, it does.

> On Sep 16, 2020, at 2:20 AM, Mário Navarro  wrote:
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> Hello.
> for those who use iPhone XR and are already running IOS 14.
> VoiceOver Recognition works on iPhone XR?
> thanks.
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question about VoiceOver Recognition

[Mário Navarro]

Hello.
for those who use iPhone XR and are already running IOS 14.
VoiceOver Recognition works on iPhone XR?
thanks.
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Re: Question about VoiceOver accessibility of Simplisafe alarm app on iOS9.3.1

[Steve Sweeney]

I use it every day. It works well for arming or disarming the system. 


Sent from my iPhone -Steve

> On Apr 14, 2016, at 9:49 PM, Shai  wrote:
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> Has anyone had experience using the Simplisafe alarm app with
> VoiceOver on iOS9.3.1
> that can discuss its accessibility? How has your experience been in
> arming and disarming the system and event notifications? If this app
> is not accessible, what other security alarm apps can others speak
> about?
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Question about VoiceOver accessibility of Simplisafe alarm app on iOS9.3.1

[Shai]

Hi,
Has anyone had experience using the Simplisafe alarm app with
VoiceOver on iOS9.3.1
that can discuss its accessibility? How has your experience been in
arming and disarming the system and event notifications? If this app
is not accessible, what other security alarm apps can others speak
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Question about VoiceOver Routing

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
If this has been addressed already and I missed I do apologize in advance.
Suddenly at random times when I use a two finger double tap to start dictation 
within an edit field and then use two finger double tap to stop dictation 
suddenly VoiceOver is routed through the earpiece of the phone rather than its 
speaker. It’s happened twice in two different apps and once it does the only 
way out seems to be a reboot. Playing with volume, audio ducking or turning 
VoiceOver on and off has no bearing.
This is on an iPhone 6sPlus which was initially set up as a new device and then 
restored from an iCloud backup.
A call to Apple Accessibility yielded little as the agent couldn’t reproduce 
the issue nor had any record of anyone else reporting it. Thus I ask if anyone 
else has encountered this running iOS 9.0.2.
Thanks for any light shed on this one.
Robin

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A question about VoiceOver and accessibility code.

[Hyongsop Kim]

 

Hello, I’m Hyongsop Kim in Korea.

I have a question about iOs VoiceOver and accessibility code.

When I test some iOs applications, the big and happened usually issue is 
fake focus.

In other words, if I’m in a-1 menu anda prior menu contents is gone from 
the real screen.

But VoiceOver reads prior menus and real a-1 menus when I flick to the 
right.

Another example is the layer.

Some layer is opened, VoiceOver reads prior contents that before layer was 
opened.

So screen reader users may hard to distinguish which focuses are real.

Let’s think about Google Drive app.

An app, there is a main menu button and the button is run as a layer.

But strangely, when I opened main menu button layer, there is a search my 
drive edit box, but this edit box is not real focus. 

I’m wondering why this issue is happened?

Is this reason that VoiceOver can’t distinguish hide contents and real 
contents?

What is the method to sove the problem?

 

Thank y.

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Re: Question about VoiceOver

[Morgan Scott]

actually, thanks hoteling me that. i am going to go to compact cuz the higher 
qualities are taking up a lot of memory. and when i upgraded to 6 i thought it 
would help the lag?but, huh no. it certainly did not. actually, it skips more. 
if this keeps up, i'm probably going to downgrade if possible, i am thinking of 
going to get this phone looked at, or a new one. Morgan.
On Sep 19, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Grant Hardy  wrote:

> Do you mean that the voice isn't as good quality?
> 
> As of iOS 5 (last year's update), VoiceOver comes with a set of very
> decent, but still lower quality, voices by default. These are called
> 'compact' voices.
> 
> A higher quality voice will eventually download for your primary
> language. To get it to download, hook up your phone to power, make
> sure it's connected to WI-FI, and then lock the screen. The voice
> should download within a few minutes, after which it'll be activated
> right away. Thereafter you can enable or disable the 'compact' voice
> by heading into Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver.
> 
> Is this what you're talking about?
> 
> Grant
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> On 9/19/12, Juliette  wrote:
>> I am playing around with the new operating system on my iPhone.
>> Does VoiceOver seem more compressed when it speaks?
>> 
>> Juliette
>> 
>> 
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Re: Question about VoiceOver

[Ricardo Walker]

Yikes.

4 days?  That's a very long time.  The longest if it ever took my phone to 
download the premium voice was maybe 30 minutes.

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 19, 2012, at 7:18 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> This means iOS removed the full voice (for whatever reason). The voice will 
> be recovered at some point, whilst your iPhone is plugged in, has wifi 
> access, the screen is locked, and you are not using the phone. For me, it 
> took four days the last time VO removed my full voice. In my case, the full 
> voice was removed because I changed my default language to Australian 
> English. VO keeps only one full voice since each voice is a couple hundred MB.
> 
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> On 20/09/2012, at 10:52, "Cristobal"  wrote:
> 
>> That's the thing that I'm not able to find since upgrading. I can't find the
>> compact/high quality voice option in either VoiceOver option or within
>> Accessibility. 
>> I thought maybe that my compact voice option had somehow been switched over
>> the more scratchy high quality voice, but when I went to look for that
>> toggle, no dice.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Grant Hardy
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question about VoiceOver
>> 
>> Do you mean that the voice isn't as good quality?
>> 
>> As of iOS 5 (last year's update), VoiceOver comes with a set of very decent,
>> but still lower quality, voices by default. These are called 'compact'
>> voices.
>> 
>> A higher quality voice will eventually download for your primary language.
>> To get it to download, hook up your phone to power, make sure it's connected
>> to WI-FI, and then lock the screen. The voice should download within a few
>> minutes, after which it'll be activated right away. Thereafter you can
>> enable or disable the 'compact' voice by heading into
>> Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver.
>> 
>> Is this what you're talking about?
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
>> On 9/19/12, Juliette  wrote:
>>> I am playing around with the new operating system on my iPhone.
>>> Does VoiceOver seem more compressed when it speaks?
>>> 
>>> Juliette
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Question about VoiceOver

[David Chittenden]

This means iOS removed the full voice (for whatever reason). The voice will be 
recovered at some point, whilst your iPhone is plugged in, has wifi access, the 
screen is locked, and you are not using the phone. For me, it took four days 
the last time VO removed my full voice. In my case, the full voice was removed 
because I changed my default language to Australian English. VO keeps only one 
full voice since each voice is a couple hundred MB.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 20/09/2012, at 10:52, "Cristobal"  wrote:

> That's the thing that I'm not able to find since upgrading. I can't find the
> compact/high quality voice option in either VoiceOver option or within
> Accessibility. 
> I thought maybe that my compact voice option had somehow been switched over
> the more scratchy high quality voice, but when I went to look for that
> toggle, no dice.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Grant Hardy
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about VoiceOver
> 
> Do you mean that the voice isn't as good quality?
> 
> As of iOS 5 (last year's update), VoiceOver comes with a set of very decent,
> but still lower quality, voices by default. These are called 'compact'
> voices.
> 
> A higher quality voice will eventually download for your primary language.
> To get it to download, hook up your phone to power, make sure it's connected
> to WI-FI, and then lock the screen. The voice should download within a few
> minutes, after which it'll be activated right away. Thereafter you can
> enable or disable the 'compact' voice by heading into
> Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver.
> 
> Is this what you're talking about?
> 
> Grant
> 
> On 9/19/12, Juliette  wrote:
>> I am playing around with the new operating system on my iPhone.
>> Does VoiceOver seem more compressed when it speaks?
>> 
>> Juliette
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Juliette
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RE: Question about VoiceOver

[Cristobal]

That's the thing that I'm not able to find since upgrading. I can't find the
compact/high quality voice option in either VoiceOver option or within
Accessibility. 
I thought maybe that my compact voice option had somehow been switched over
the more scratchy high quality voice, but when I went to look for that
toggle, no dice.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Grant Hardy
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about VoiceOver

Do you mean that the voice isn't as good quality?

As of iOS 5 (last year's update), VoiceOver comes with a set of very decent,
but still lower quality, voices by default. These are called 'compact'
voices.

A higher quality voice will eventually download for your primary language.
To get it to download, hook up your phone to power, make sure it's connected
to WI-FI, and then lock the screen. The voice should download within a few
minutes, after which it'll be activated right away. Thereafter you can
enable or disable the 'compact' voice by heading into
Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver.

Is this what you're talking about?

Grant

On 9/19/12, Juliette  wrote:
> I am playing around with the new operating system on my iPhone.
> Does VoiceOver seem more compressed when it speaks?
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> Juliette
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Re: Question about VoiceOver

[Grant Hardy]

Do you mean that the voice isn't as good quality?

As of iOS 5 (last year's update), VoiceOver comes with a set of very
decent, but still lower quality, voices by default. These are called
'compact' voices.

A higher quality voice will eventually download for your primary
language. To get it to download, hook up your phone to power, make
sure it's connected to WI-FI, and then lock the screen. The voice
should download within a few minutes, after which it'll be activated
right away. Thereafter you can enable or disable the 'compact' voice
by heading into Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver.

Is this what you're talking about?

Grant

On 9/19/12, Juliette  wrote:
> I am playing around with the new operating system on my iPhone.
> Does VoiceOver seem more compressed when it speaks?
>
> Juliette
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Question about VoiceOver

[Juliette]

I am playing around with the new operating system on my iPhone. 
Does VoiceOver seem more compressed when it speaks? 

Juliette



Juliette

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