RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is my understanding that you still need the Alexa app and you set up skills 
and all that just like with an Echo so it would make sense that Audible would 
work.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 6:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

I was told just two days ago that it was not yet available so I hope it is 
true. That should mean that when I get the Sonos 1 I will be even happier. 
But I just downloaded the newest app from Sonos and there is no mention of 
Audible. Perhaps it will work through the Alexa feature.
Good news for sure.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

The Sonos guy on the phone told me today that Audible is supported.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

If I did not already own an Echo, I would definitely go with the Sonos 1 and in 
fact I am still going for the Sonos 1. The sound quality is one very good 
reason and the airplay is another. And having it in every room where you have a 
Sonos speaker is exciting. I am looking forward to this and the sales person 
told me they are working seriously to get Audible books to play on the 
speakers. While you can listen to them on the Echo you have to be in the same 
room but if you have Sonos speakers in several rooms, you will hear the book in 
each of those rooms.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

Hi Wayne,

I think you are comparing Apple and Oranges if you compare an Echo Dot and the 
new Sonos 1. First of all, if you are in a country where Alexa isn't offered 
you still won't automatically get it by buying a Sonos 1. I guess here in 
Canada you can make Alexa work, but it's always been my opinion that if Amazon 
can't be bothered to make Alexa available officially then I'm not going to jump 
through all sorts of hoops to get it.
As for the price comparison, the Sonos 1 especially if you buy a set and put 
them in stereo mode is a very different animal with respect to sound quality. 
Maybe you also have some sort of higher quality stereo or set of speakers or 
bluetooth speaker for enjoying music and this is really where the Sonos 1 comes 
in. Anyhow, if you want to put music through out your house Sonos is still one 
of the best options and as I said, you also get fully accessible access to 
things like Tune In, iHeart Radio, Spotify, Deezer, Sirius XM and many more, I 
believe Sonos supports 44 services in total both paid and free. If the Sonos 1 
also has Airplay 2 built in it's very much a game-changer for iOS users since 
you only need one Airplay enabled device to allow your entire Sonos system to 
access it. For me this would mean I can take my Connect Amp and use it at my 
retail store and replace it with a Sonos 1 and I can also get rid of my setup 
where I use an Airport Express connected to the Connect Amp so I can Airplay to 
my Sonos system.
If all you want is an inexpensive voice assistant speaker and you don't care 
too much about sound quality then the Echo Dot is certainly the way to go, but 
even if Amazon made the Echo available here in Canada I believe it's much 
better to buy a Sonos 1 instead because it will eventually give you access to 
both Alexa and Google Assistant. I wouldn't be surprised if Cortana follows 
soon as well and then you have 3 of the 4 major voice assistants in one device.
Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

I have an Echo Dot at home, but don't use Siri very much. I do use Siri, but 
not constantly like I know some do. So for me, I have the Hey Siri feature 
turned off. It's not ahuge deal since I can hold the Home button osummon Siri 
if I need to. For the Echo Dot, though it is always listening, that does not 
bother me too much. However, it does have a mute button to stop it from 
listening, so that's good. It really hasn't been triggered too much by thinking 
it has heard the magic word. A few times, but not a ton. I understand how the 
Sonos devices getting Alexa would be a game changer for those not in countries 
supported by Alexa. However, for me it comes down to price; I can get an Echo 
Dot

Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

[Marie]

I was told just two days ago that it was not yet available so I hope it is 
true. That should mean that when I get the Sonos 1 I will be even happier. 
But I just downloaded the newest app from Sonos and there is no mention of 
Audible. Perhaps it will work through the Alexa feature.

Good news for sure.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening 
devices


The Sonos guy on the phone told me today that Audible is supported.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Marie

Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening 
devices


If I did not already own an Echo, I would definitely go with the Sonos 1 and 
in fact I am still going for the Sonos 1. The sound quality is one very good 
reason and the airplay is another. And having it in every room where you 
have a Sonos speaker is exciting. I am looking forward to this and the sales 
person told me they are working seriously to get Audible books to play on 
the speakers. While you can listen to them on the Echo you have to be in the 
same room but if you have Sonos speakers in several rooms, you will hear the 
book in each of those rooms.

Marie


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening 
devices


Hi Wayne,

I think you are comparing Apple and Oranges if you compare an Echo Dot and 
the new Sonos 1. First of all, if you are in a country where Alexa isn't 
offered you still won't automatically get it by buying a Sonos 1. I guess 
here in Canada you can make Alexa work, but it's always been my opinion that 
if Amazon can't be bothered to make Alexa available officially then I'm not 
going to jump through all sorts of hoops to get it.
As for the price comparison, the Sonos 1 especially if you buy a set and put 
them in stereo mode is a very different animal with respect to sound 
quality. Maybe you also have some sort of higher quality stereo or set of 
speakers or bluetooth speaker for enjoying music and this is really where 
the Sonos 1 comes in. Anyhow, if you want to put music through out your 
house Sonos is still one of the best options and as I said, you also get 
fully accessible access to things like Tune In, iHeart Radio, Spotify, 
Deezer, Sirius XM and many more, I believe Sonos supports 44 services in 
total both paid and free. If the Sonos 1 also has Airplay 2 built in it's 
very much a game-changer for iOS users since you only need one Airplay 
enabled device to allow your entire Sonos system to access it. For me this 
would mean I can take my Connect Amp and use it at my retail store and 
replace it with a Sonos 1 and I can also get rid of my setup where I use an 
Airport Express connected to the Connect Amp so I can Airplay to my Sonos 
system.
If all you want is an inexpensive voice assistant speaker and you don't care 
too much about sound quality then the Echo Dot is certainly the way to go, 
but even if Amazon made the Echo available here in Canada I believe it's 
much better to buy a Sonos 1 instead because it will eventually give you 
access to both Alexa and Google Assistant. I wouldn't be surprised if 
Cortana follows soon as well and then you have 3 of the 4 major voice 
assistants in one device.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Wayne Merritt

Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening 
devices


I have an Echo Dot at home, but don't use Siri very much. I do use Siri, but 
not constantly like I know some do. So for me, I have the Hey Siri feature 
turned off. It's not ahuge deal since I can hold the Home button osummon 
Siri if I need to. For the Echo Dot, though it is always listening, that 
does not bother me too much. However, it does have a mute button to stop it 
from listening, so that's good. It really hasn't been triggered too much by 
thinking it has heard the magic word. A few times, but not a ton. I 
understand how the Sonos devices getting Alexa would be a game changer for 
those not in countries supported by Alexa. However, for me it comes down to 
price; I can get an Echo Dot for $49, verses the $199 that Sonos charge for 
their new device.


Wayne

On 10/5/17, deidre muccio <deim...@verizon.net> wrote:

I notice that Tune In Radio is now giving me a morning greeting and a
button that I must hit on to open the app. Otherwise it will not close
out since the app is not open. Facebook has been doing this too. It
drives me crazy.
As far as listening goes, I unloaded the Facebo

RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Sonos guy on the phone told me today that Audible is supported.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

If I did not already own an Echo, I would definitely go with the Sonos 1 and in 
fact I am still going for the Sonos 1. The sound quality is one very good 
reason and the airplay is another. And having it in every room where you have a 
Sonos speaker is exciting. I am looking forward to this and the sales person 
told me they are working seriously to get Audible books to play on the 
speakers. While you can listen to them on the Echo you have to be in the same 
room but if you have Sonos speakers in several rooms, you will hear the book in 
each of those rooms.
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

Hi Wayne,

I think you are comparing Apple and Oranges if you compare an Echo Dot and the 
new Sonos 1. First of all, if you are in a country where Alexa isn't offered 
you still won't automatically get it by buying a Sonos 1. I guess here in 
Canada you can make Alexa work, but it's always been my opinion that if Amazon 
can't be bothered to make Alexa available officially then I'm not going to jump 
through all sorts of hoops to get it.
As for the price comparison, the Sonos 1 especially if you buy a set and put 
them in stereo mode is a very different animal with respect to sound quality. 
Maybe you also have some sort of higher quality stereo or set of speakers or 
bluetooth speaker for enjoying music and this is really where the Sonos 1 comes 
in. Anyhow, if you want to put music through out your house Sonos is still one 
of the best options and as I said, you also get fully accessible access to 
things like Tune In, iHeart Radio, Spotify, Deezer, Sirius XM and many more, I 
believe Sonos supports 44 services in total both paid and free. If the Sonos 1 
also has Airplay 2 built in it's very much a game-changer for iOS users since 
you only need one Airplay enabled device to allow your entire Sonos system to 
access it. For me this would mean I can take my Connect Amp and use it at my 
retail store and replace it with a Sonos 1 and I can also get rid of my setup 
where I use an Airport Express connected to the Connect Amp so I can Airplay to 
my Sonos system.
If all you want is an inexpensive voice assistant speaker and you don't care 
too much about sound quality then the Echo Dot is certainly the way to go, but 
even if Amazon made the Echo available here in Canada I believe it's much 
better to buy a Sonos 1 instead because it will eventually give you access to 
both Alexa and Google Assistant. I wouldn't be surprised if Cortana follows 
soon as well and then you have 3 of the 4 major voice assistants in one device.
Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

I have an Echo Dot at home, but don't use Siri very much. I do use Siri, but 
not constantly like I know some do. So for me, I have the Hey Siri feature 
turned off. It's not ahuge deal since I can hold the Home button osummon Siri 
if I need to. For the Echo Dot, though it is always listening, that does not 
bother me too much. However, it does have a mute button to stop it from 
listening, so that's good. It really hasn't been triggered too much by thinking 
it has heard the magic word. A few times, but not a ton. I understand how the 
Sonos devices getting Alexa would be a game changer for those not in countries 
supported by Alexa. However, for me it comes down to price; I can get an Echo 
Dot for $49, verses the $199 that Sonos charge for their new device.

Wayne

On 10/5/17, deidre muccio <deim...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I notice that Tune In Radio is now giving me a morning greeting and a 
> button that I must hit on to open the app. Otherwise it will not close 
> out since the app is not open. Facebook has been doing this too. It 
> drives me crazy.
> As far as listening goes, I unloaded the Facebook app so I could get 
> back to the place where I tell it not to allow access to the 
> microphone - I don't do any video on my phone. No data is lost this 
> way and it clears out other stuff not needed so if you look at storage 
> usage it shrinks after doing this.
> I'm not concerned who sees or hears what I am up to, but having the 
> phone in use behind the scenes offends my sensibility. I also notice 
> that if I do leave my phone on through the night, even though it mig

Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

[Marie]

If I did not already own an Echo, I would definitely go with the Sonos 1 and 
in fact I am still going for the Sonos 1. The sound quality is one very good 
reason and the airplay is another. And having it in every room where you 
have a Sonos speaker is exciting. I am looking forward to this and the sales 
person told me they are working seriously to get Audible books to play on 
the speakers. While you can listen to them on the Echo you have to be in the 
same room but if you have Sonos speakers in several rooms, you will hear the 
book in each of those rooms.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening 
devices


Hi Wayne,

I think you are comparing Apple and Oranges if you compare an Echo Dot and 
the new Sonos 1. First of all, if you are in a country where Alexa isn't 
offered you still won't automatically get it by buying a Sonos 1. I guess 
here in Canada you can make Alexa work, but it's always been my opinion that 
if Amazon can't be bothered to make Alexa available officially then I'm not 
going to jump through all sorts of hoops to get it.
As for the price comparison, the Sonos 1 especially if you buy a set and put 
them in stereo mode is a very different animal with respect to sound 
quality. Maybe you also have some sort of higher quality stereo or set of 
speakers or bluetooth speaker for enjoying music and this is really where 
the Sonos 1 comes in. Anyhow, if you want to put music through out your 
house Sonos is still one of the best options and as I said, you also get 
fully accessible access to things like Tune In, iHeart Radio, Spotify, 
Deezer, Sirius XM and many more, I believe Sonos supports 44 services in 
total both paid and free. If the Sonos 1 also has Airplay 2 built in it's 
very much a game-changer for iOS users since you only need one Airplay 
enabled device to allow your entire Sonos system to access it. For me this 
would mean I can take my Connect Amp and use it at my retail store and 
replace it with a Sonos 1 and I can also get rid of my setup where I use an 
Airport Express connected to the Connect Amp so I can Airplay to my Sonos 
system.
If all you want is an inexpensive voice assistant speaker and you don't care 
too much about sound quality then the Echo Dot is certainly the way to go, 
but even if Amazon made the Echo available here in Canada I believe it's 
much better to buy a Sonos 1 instead because it will eventually give you 
access to both Alexa and Google Assistant. I wouldn't be surprised if 
Cortana follows soon as well and then you have 3 of the 4 major voice 
assistants in one device.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Wayne Merritt

Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening 
devices


I have an Echo Dot at home, but don't use Siri very much. I do use Siri, but 
not constantly like I know some do. So for me, I have the Hey Siri feature 
turned off. It's not ahuge deal since I can hold the Home button osummon 
Siri if I need to. For the Echo Dot, though it is always listening, that 
does not bother me too much. However, it does have a mute button to stop it 
from listening, so that's good. It really hasn't been triggered too much by 
thinking it has heard the magic word. A few times, but not a ton. I 
understand how the Sonos devices getting Alexa would be a game changer for 
those not in countries supported by Alexa. However, for me it comes down to 
price; I can get an Echo Dot for $49, verses the $199 that Sonos charge for 
their new device.


Wayne

On 10/5/17, deidre muccio <deim...@verizon.net> wrote:

I notice that Tune In Radio is now giving me a morning greeting and a
button that I must hit on to open the app. Otherwise it will not close
out since the app is not open. Facebook has been doing this too. It drives 
me crazy.

As far as listening goes, I unloaded the Facebook app so I could get
back to the place where I tell it not to allow access to the
microphone - I don't do any video on my phone. No data is lost this
way and it clears out other stuff not needed so if you look at storage
usage it shrinks after doing this.
I'm not concerned who sees or hears what I am up to, but having the
phone in use behind the scenes offends my sensibility. I also notice
that if I do leave my phone on through the night, even though it might
be near fully charged, and it is set to lock every minute, the battery
is still drained quite a bit by morning. What is using up the battery?
I think I noticed that some apps have remained open  so perhaps even
though the phone is locked particular apps don't really treat them as not 
in use.

I've started to shut my phone down at night, hell with needing easy
access to 911.
A

RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Wayne,

I think you are comparing Apple and Oranges if you compare an Echo Dot and the 
new Sonos 1. First of all, if you are in a country where Alexa isn't offered 
you still won't automatically get it by buying a Sonos 1. I guess here in 
Canada you can make Alexa work, but it's always been my opinion that if Amazon 
can't be bothered to make Alexa available officially then I'm not going to jump 
through all sorts of hoops to get it.
As for the price comparison, the Sonos 1 especially if you buy a set and put 
them in stereo mode is a very different animal with respect to sound quality. 
Maybe you also have some sort of higher quality stereo or set of speakers or 
bluetooth speaker for enjoying music and this is really where the Sonos 1 comes 
in. Anyhow, if you want to put music through out your house Sonos is still one 
of the best options and as I said, you also get fully accessible access to 
things like Tune In, iHeart Radio, Spotify, Deezer, Sirius XM and many more, I 
believe Sonos supports 44 services in total both paid and free. If the Sonos 1 
also has Airplay 2 built in it's very much a game-changer for iOS users since 
you only need one Airplay enabled device to allow your entire Sonos system to 
access it. For me this would mean I can take my Connect Amp and use it at my 
retail store and replace it with a Sonos 1 and I can also get rid of my setup 
where I use an Airport Express connected to the Connect Amp so I can Airplay to 
my Sonos system.
If all you want is an inexpensive voice assistant speaker and you don't care 
too much about sound quality then the Echo Dot is certainly the way to go, but 
even if Amazon made the Echo available here in Canada I believe it's much 
better to buy a Sonos 1 instead because it will eventually give you access to 
both Alexa and Google Assistant. I wouldn't be surprised if Cortana follows 
soon as well and then you have 3 of the 4 major voice assistants in one device.
Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

I have an Echo Dot at home, but don't use Siri very much. I do use Siri, but 
not constantly like I know some do. So for me, I have the Hey Siri feature 
turned off. It's not ahuge deal since I can hold the Home button osummon Siri 
if I need to. For the Echo Dot, though it is always listening, that does not 
bother me too much. However, it does have a mute button to stop it from 
listening, so that's good. It really hasn't been triggered too much by thinking 
it has heard the magic word. A few times, but not a ton. I understand how the 
Sonos devices getting Alexa would be a game changer for those not in countries 
supported by Alexa. However, for me it comes down to price; I can get an Echo 
Dot for $49, verses the $199 that Sonos charge for their new device.

Wayne

On 10/5/17, deidre muccio <deim...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I notice that Tune In Radio is now giving me a morning greeting and a 
> button that I must hit on to open the app. Otherwise it will not close 
> out since the app is not open. Facebook has been doing this too. It drives me 
> crazy.
>   As far as listening goes, I unloaded the Facebook app so I could get 
> back to the place where I tell it not to allow access to the 
> microphone - I don't do any video on my phone. No data is lost this 
> way and it clears out other stuff not needed so if you look at storage 
> usage it shrinks after doing this.
>I'm not concerned who sees or hears what I am up to, but having the 
> phone in use behind the scenes offends my sensibility. I also notice 
> that if I do leave my phone on through the night, even though it might 
> be near fully charged, and it is set to lock every minute, the battery 
> is still drained quite a bit by morning. What is using up the battery? 
> I think I noticed that some apps have remained open  so perhaps even 
> though the phone is locked particular apps don't really treat them as not in 
> use.
> I've started to shut my phone down at night, hell with needing easy 
> access to 911.
>   Also, I realize that magazines and facebook provide news and 
> platforms for free, if one chooses not to subscribe, but the onslaught 
> of ads is making some of these platforms nearly unusable. I've never 
> had so many ads popping up when on facebook as I have in the last 3 or 
> so months. I wish there was an alternative platform. Either that or 
> voice over is not able to keep up with the ads and I see no way to not load 
> graphics on the phone.
>   Am I in the dark here?
>
>   Deidre
>
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RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

[Michael Irons]

Hi Deidre, This is Mike. If my phone was doing what you just talked about I 
would be shutting it off at night myself. You are not in the dark. It sounds 
like that there might be either one App or some apps working behind the scenes. 
Michael

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
deidre muccio
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

I notice that Tune In Radio is now giving me a morning greeting and a button 
that I must hit on to open the app. Otherwise it will not close out since the 
app is not open. Facebook has been doing this too. It drives me crazy. 
As far as listening goes, I unloaded the Facebook app so I could get 
back to the place where I tell it not to allow access to the microphone - I 
don't do any video on my phone. No data is lost this way and it clears out 
other stuff not needed so if you look at storage usage it shrinks after doing 
this. 
 I'm not concerned who sees or hears what I am up to, but having the 
phone in use behind the scenes offends my sensibility. I also notice that if I 
do leave my phone on through the night, even though it might be near fully 
charged, and it is set to lock every minute, the battery is still drained quite 
a bit by morning. What is using up the battery? I think I noticed that some 
apps have remained open  so perhaps even though the phone is locked particular 
apps don't really treat them as not in use.
I've started to shut my phone down at night, hell with needing easy access to 
911.
Also, I realize that magazines and facebook provide news and platforms 
for free, if one chooses not to subscribe, but the onslaught of ads is making 
some of these platforms nearly unusable. I've never had so many ads popping up 
when on facebook as I have in the last 3 or so months. I wish there was an 
alternative platform. Either that or voice over is not able to keep up with the 
ads and I see no way to not load graphics on the phone. 
Am I in the dark here?

Deidre

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Re: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

[Wayne Merritt]

I have an Echo Dot at home, but don't use Siri very much. I do use
Siri, but not constantly like I know some do. So for me, I have the
Hey Siri feature turned off. It's not ahuge deal since I can hold the
Home button osummon Siri if I need to. For the Echo Dot, though it is
always listening, that does not bother me too much. However, it does
have a mute button to stop it from listening, so that's good. It
really hasn't been triggered too much by thinking it has heard the
magic word. A few times, but not a ton. I understand how the Sonos
devices getting Alexa would be a game changer for those not in
countries supported by Alexa. However, for me it comes down to price;
I can get an Echo Dot for $49, verses the $199 that Sonos charge for
their new device.

Wayne

On 10/5/17, deidre muccio  wrote:
> I notice that Tune In Radio is now giving me a morning greeting and a button
> that I must hit on to open the app. Otherwise it will not close out since
> the app is not open. Facebook has been doing this too. It drives me crazy.
>   As far as listening goes, I unloaded the Facebook app so I could get 
> back
> to the place where I tell it not to allow access to the microphone - I don't
> do any video on my phone. No data is lost this way and it clears out other
> stuff not needed so if you look at storage usage it shrinks after doing
> this.
>I'm not concerned who sees or hears what I am up to, but having the 
> phone
> in use behind the scenes offends my sensibility. I also notice that if I do
> leave my phone on through the night, even though it might be near fully
> charged, and it is set to lock every minute, the battery is still drained
> quite a bit by morning. What is using up the battery? I think I noticed that
> some apps have remained open  so perhaps even though the phone is locked
> particular apps don't really treat them as not in use.
> I've started to shut my phone down at night, hell with needing easy access
> to 911.
>   Also, I realize that magazines and facebook provide news and platforms 
> for
> free, if one chooses not to subscribe, but the onslaught of ads is making
> some of these platforms nearly unusable. I've never had so many ads popping
> up when on facebook as I have in the last 3 or so months. I wish there was
> an alternative platform. Either that or voice over is not able to keep up
> with the ads and I see no way to not load graphics on the phone.
>   Am I in the dark here?
>
>   Deidre
>
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RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

[deidre muccio]

I notice that Tune In Radio is now giving me a morning greeting and a button 
that I must hit on to open the app. Otherwise it will not close out since the 
app is not open. Facebook has been doing this too. It drives me crazy. 
As far as listening goes, I unloaded the Facebook app so I could get 
back to the place where I tell it not to allow access to the microphone - I 
don't do any video on my phone. No data is lost this way and it clears out 
other stuff not needed so if you look at storage usage it shrinks after doing 
this. 
 I'm not concerned who sees or hears what I am up to, but having the 
phone in use behind the scenes offends my sensibility. I also notice that if I 
do leave my phone on through the night, even though it might be near fully 
charged, and it is set to lock every minute, the battery is still drained quite 
a bit by morning. What is using up the battery? I think I noticed that some 
apps have remained open  so perhaps even though the phone is locked particular 
apps don't really treat them as not in use.
I've started to shut my phone down at night, hell with needing easy access to 
911.
Also, I realize that magazines and facebook provide news and platforms 
for free, if one chooses not to subscribe, but the onslaught of ads is making 
some of these platforms nearly unusable. I've never had so many ads popping up 
when on facebook as I have in the last 3 or so months. I wish there was an 
alternative platform. Either that or voice over is not able to keep up with the 
ads and I see no way to not load graphics on the phone. 
Am I in the dark here?

Deidre

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RE: Amazon, Siri, Facebook, Google: How to turn off listening devices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I could see how somebody who likes privacy would want to turn off Hey SIRI or 
OK Google on his iPhone/Android phone. However, people who buy a Google Home or 
Amazon Echo most likely have already decided they are willing to put up with 
the potential privacy issues for the convenience and cool factor of these 
devices. What's the point in turning this off when it's the only way to 
interact with the device, it would be like having a PC and unplugging the 
keyboard. I guess if somebody wanted this off during certain times of the day 
you could simply unplug the thing, but again, these smartspeakers are all about 
being ready when you want them.
I know the Apple HomePod may not do nearly as much especially in the beginning 
as an Amazon Echo or Google smartspeaker does, but I am holding out for the 
homePod because I trust Apple the most when it comes to my privacy, unlike 
Google Apple is not making their money by collecting and using your information 
for their advertising purposes. I'm not sure how much better Alexa is in this 
respect, but it's not available in Canada and I'd never jump through all sorts 
of hoops to get an Alexa if Amazon doesn't feel they should sell it here 
officially. Soner or later they probably will sell it in Canada, Amazon Prime 
is finally also available with more of its features so when that time comes I 
guess I'll decide. One thing I know I would enjoy with an Amazon Echo is the 
fact I can easily access my entire Audible library and just ask to play any 
book I own, that is very cool and compelling for an Audible fan.

Regards,
Sieghard

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How to stop your devices from listening to (and saving) what you say 

Kim Komando , Special for USA TODAY

USA TODAY Tech columnist Kim Komando explains how to keep your devices from 
listening to what you say. Kim Komando, Special for USA Today This Monday, June 
19, 2017, photo shows Facebook launched on an iPhone, in North Andover, Mass. 
(Photo: Elise Amendola, AP) Yes, voice technology is amazing. You can ask your 
phone a question. You can talk to your speaker system and even book an Uber. 
With the right setup, you can verbally lock the doors in your house, dim the 
lights, and change the thermostat. All across America, people are embracing 
their oral fixation. Virtual assistants are handy, but they're always 
listening. As more manufacturers and developers jump onto the audio tracking 
bandwagon, you may wonder how much your devices are recording. And what happens 
to the audio files they gather? Worst of all: apps that use ultrasonic data to 
profile you. You don't hear the tones, but your device does. More about that 
later. Some regular apps are designed to spy and report back recordings. Read 
more on five spy apps that could be on your phone watching and listening right 
now. Creeped out? Many people are. Lots of consumers don't trust their virtual 
assistants and wonder how to switch them off. If you're worried about the 
privacy risks of your smartphone's always-on microphone, here are tips on how 
to turn it off: When you put the Facebook app on your phone, it requests access 
to your microphone. Why?
Facebook needs to record your voice when you shoot live video. But some people 
are wary of this. Does the app only record you when you're on camera?
Or is Facebook "listening" through your microphone? Facebook denies these 
claims , and there is no solid evidence to support this fear. But you are 
absolutely welcome to sever the tie between app and microphone. Many people 
have no use for this access anyway, so there's nothing to lose by switching it 
off. If you are an iPhone user , go to Settings >> Facebook >> Settings
>> slide the Microphone switch to the left so it turns from green to white.
That turns it off. Alternatively, you can go to Settings >> Privacy >> 
Microphone >> look for Facebook then do the same. Note that you can toggle the 
mic on and off for other apps, too. For Android users: Try Settings >> 
Applications >> Application Manager >> look for Facebook >> Permissions >> Turn 
off the mic. If you do decide to shoot video later on, just return to those 
settings and re-establish a connection to your mic. You can always switch it 
off again when you're done. The new Amazon Echo Plus. (Photo:
Reviewed.com) Is Amazon Echo always listening? Alexa is activated when it 
detects one of its wake words, which are "Alexa," "Amazon," "Computer," or 
"Echo. You'll know that the device is ready for a command when the outer ring 
at the top glows blue. But until that happens, Alexa always has open ears, 
waiting to be addressed. When activated, Alexa allows you to search the web, 
play music, and even control other smart home devices you've added to your home