Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows Keyboard equivalents)

2017-10-27 Thread Mike B. 
Hi Christopher,

Thank you very much for this URL.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)


I would assume that the signals being sent from the keyboard to the computer 
are all generated the same way and follow the same standard protocol. 
Basically, the only difference would be the key caps. Therefore, they're 
pretty much interchangeable. Here's just one of many articles on using a 
Windows keyboard on a Mac and the other way around 
https://www.computer-hardware-explained.com/apple-keyboard.html





On 10/26/2017 08:16 PM, Mike B. wrote:

  Howdy,

  Unless the keyboard has been designed to work with both types of operating 
systems, I seriously doubt if a Windows keyboard will work / function 
correctly in the iOS system.  But, since I've never tried, who knows?!  LOL
  Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
  Sent from my iBarstool.
  Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:03 PM
  Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and 
Windows Keyboard equivalents)


  Hi,

  The original question came from someone who has a Windows Bluetooth 
keyboard and was trying to figure out what keys she would use if connected 
to an iPhone.



  I have the AmazonBasics keyboard and had recommended it because of having 
both options and control on both sides of the spacebar.

  But, it hasn’t been available for at least 6 months, so I switched to the 
Logitech K480 since it can connect to three Bluetooth devices including 
Windows or Android along with Apple.



  I will leave it to that person to finally sort out what keys on a Windows 
keyboard match up to the Apple keyboard commands.



  Richard





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:57 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and 
Windows Keyboard equivalents)



  Hi Richard,



  I use a BATTOP keyboard from Amazon, & it doesn't have an application key 
/ context menu key.  Here's my bottom row key layout.



  My bottom row from left to right:
  Left Function key, Control, Options / Alt, Command, Spacebar, Command, 
Options / Alt, Up / down / left / right Arrow keys.



  I don't know what key would be the application / context menu key using 
this keyboard being I've never used it with a Windows computer.  Also I 
don't know if iOS has an equivalent to the Windows context menu, unless it's 
the Rotor.


  Systems switch between Android, Windows and iOS



  QWERTY Keyboard Layout:
  Press:” Fn” +” Q” for iOS
  Press:” Fn” + ” W ”for Android
  Press:” Fn” +” E ” for Windows



  AZERTY keyboard Layout:
  Press: ” Fn” +” A” for Android
  Press: ” Fn” +” Z ”for Windows
  Press: ” Fn” +” E ”for iOS





  Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
  Sent from my iBarstool.
  Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Richard Turner

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:09 PM

  Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and 
Windows Keyboard equivalents)



  OK,

  I of course new that control+options was the VO key.

  But to make sure we are all on the same page:

  Windows key equals command key

  Application key equals Options

  And Control equals control.

  Is that correct?



  Richard





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:45 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and 
Windows Keyboard equivalents)



  Hi Richard,



  The keys for VO are, the control and option keys (held down together) on 
an Apple keyboard, and
  the control and alt keys (held down together) on a Windows style keyboard.



   The command key on an Apple keyboard corresponds to the Windows key on a 
Windows style keyboard.





  Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
  Sent from my iBarstool.
  Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Richard Turner

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:28 PM

  Subject: RE:

RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows Keyboard equivalents)

2017-10-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
On my Logitech K780 the keys on the left are as follows (Windows function 
followed by iOS function:

Control = Control
Function Key =  Function Key
Windows Key = Option
Alt Key = Command

This keyboard only has an Alt key and a Control key on the right side of the 
spacebar and again Alt = Command, but now the right Control key is Options 
which on the left is the Windows key.

All you have to do to check this out is press Control+Command (Control+Windows 
Key on a PC keyboard) together with “k” to get into keyboard Help and then 
whenever you press a key Voiceover tells you what that key is or does.

Regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)

Wow!  I didn't know that!  Thank you.  That is cool!
Kay Malmquist
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- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)

Hi Lois,
Nothing to be ashamed of.  We all have to learn somehow.
To show my ignorance as well, I am not completely  sure I have the right 
information on which Windows keys are what when used with an Apple device.
My best guess is that the control key is the same.
The options key would be the Windows Key.
And The application key would be the command key.

If the Windows keyboard has a function key, it would be the same.

I’m sure there is a list out there with a list of which Windows keys equal 
which Apple keys.
I know there are others on the list that can answer once they see these 
messages.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

Okay, showing my ignorance here, by regular keyboard I mean not an Apple 
keyboard.  I’m not aware of an options key on other than an apple keyboard. I 
thought the keys were Control, Function or vice versa, windows, and alt, with 
applications key on the right side as well.

I’m sure I’m going to feel like a fool, but please explain.

Thanks,
Lois

From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

Lois,
VO is control plus options not control plus command.
I do not know what you mean by a regular keyboard?
Richard


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

My question is, if VO means control plus command, which doesn’t exist on a 
regular keyboard, what do you press instead.

Thanks,
Lois

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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

which is supposed to be the function key? I tried to use f1 to get to the app 
switcher and got nowhere.

From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 17:33
To: ViPone list<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

According to the latest iOS 11 Keyboard commands from the Apple user guide, 
Function Key plus VO, plus n opens the notification center.
I have tried with both the Logitech k480 and the AmazonBasics keyboard and it 
doesn’t work.
I do not have access to an Apple Wireless keyboard.  I wonder if it works with 
it?

Thanks,
Richard


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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows Keyboard equivalents)

2017-10-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
I would assume that the signals being sent from the keyboard to the 
computer are all generated the same way and follow the same standard 
protocol. Basically, the only difference would be the key caps. 
Therefore, they're pretty much interchangeable. Here's just one of many 
articles on using a Windows keyboard on a Mac and the other way around 
https://www.computer-hardware-explained.com/apple-keyboard.html




On 10/26/2017 08:16 PM, Mike B. wrote:

*Howdy,*
**
*Unless the keyboard has been designed to work with both types of 
operating systems, I seriously doubt if a Windows keyboard will work / 
function correctly in the iOS system.  But, since I've never tried, 
who knows?!  LOL *

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
*From:* Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:03 PM
*Subject:* RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and 
Windows Keyboard equivalents)


Hi,

The original question came from someone who has a Windows Bluetooth 
keyboard and was trying to figure out what keys she would use if 
connected to an iPhone.


I have the AmazonBasics keyboard and had recommended it because of 
having both options and control on both sides of the spacebar.


But, it hasn’t been available for at least 6 months, so I switched to 
the Logitech K480 since it can connect to three Bluetooth devices 
including Windows or Android along with Apple.


I will leave it to that person to finally sort out what keys on a 
Windows keyboard match up to the Apple keyboard commands.


Richard

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Mike B.

*Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:57 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and 
Windows Keyboard equivalents)


*Hi Richard,*

*I use a BATTOP keyboard from Amazon, & it doesn't have an application 
key / context menu key.  Here's my bottom row key layout.*


*My bottom row from left to right:**
*Left Function key, Control, Options / Alt, Command, Spacebar, 
Command, Options / Alt, Up / down / left / right Arrow keys.**


*I don't know what key would be the application / context menu key 
using this keyboard being I've never used it with a Windows computer.  
Also I don't know if iOS has an equivalent to the Windows context 
menu, unless it's the Rotor.***


*
Systems switch between Android, Windows and iOS *

*QWERTY Keyboard Layout:**
*Press:” Fn” +” Q” for iOS *
*Press:” Fn” + ” W ”for Android *
*Press:” Fn” +” E ” for Windows **

*AZERTY keyboard Layout:**
*Press: ” Fn” +” A” for Android *
*Press: ” Fn” +” Z ”for Windows *
*Press: ” Fn” +” E ”for iOS **

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message -

*From:*Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

*Sent:*Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:09 PM

*Subject:*RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and 
Windows Keyboard equivalents)


OK,

I of course new that control+options was the VO key.

But to make sure we are all on the same page:

Windows key equals command key

Application key equals Options

And Control equals control.

Is that correct?

Richard

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike B.

*Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:45 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and 
Windows Keyboard equivalents)


*Hi Richard,*

*The keys for VO are, the control and option keys (held down together) 
on an Apple keyboard, and **
*the control and alt keys (held down together) on a Windows style 
keyboard.**


* The command key on an Apple keyboard corresponds to the Windows key 
on a Windows style keyboard.*


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message -

*From:*Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

*Sent:*Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:28 PM

*Subject:*RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and 
Windows Keyboard equivalents)


Hi Lois,

Nothing to be ashamed of.  We all have to learn somehow.

To show my ignorance as well, I am not completely

Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows Keyboard equivalents)

2017-10-26 Thread Mike B. 
Howdy,

Unless the keyboard has been designed to work with both types of operating 
systems, I seriously doubt if a Windows keyboard will work / function 
correctly in the iOS system.  But, since I've never tried, who knows?!  LOL
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)


Hi,

The original question came from someone who has a Windows Bluetooth keyboard 
and was trying to figure out what keys she would use if connected to an 
iPhone.



I have the AmazonBasics keyboard and had recommended it because of having 
both options and control on both sides of the spacebar.

But, it hasn’t been available for at least 6 months, so I switched to the 
Logitech K480 since it can connect to three Bluetooth devices including 
Windows or Android along with Apple.



I will leave it to that person to finally sort out what keys on a Windows 
keyboard match up to the Apple keyboard commands.



Richard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)



Hi Richard,



I use a BATTOP keyboard from Amazon, & it doesn't have an application key / 
context menu key.  Here's my bottom row key layout.



My bottom row from left to right:
Left Function key, Control, Options / Alt, Command, Spacebar, Command, 
Options / Alt, Up / down / left / right Arrow keys.



I don't know what key would be the application / context menu key using this 
keyboard being I've never used it with a Windows computer.  Also I don't 
know if iOS has an equivalent to the Windows context menu, unless it's the 
Rotor.


Systems switch between Android, Windows and iOS



QWERTY Keyboard Layout:
Press:” Fn” +” Q” for iOS
Press:” Fn” + ” W ”for Android
Press:” Fn” +” E ” for Windows



AZERTY keyboard Layout:
Press: ” Fn” +” A” for Android
Press: ” Fn” +” Z ”for Windows
Press: ” Fn” +” E ”for iOS





Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:09 PM

Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)



OK,

I of course new that control+options was the VO key.

But to make sure we are all on the same page:

Windows key equals command key

Application key equals Options

And Control equals control.

Is that correct?



Richard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)



Hi Richard,



The keys for VO are, the control and option keys (held down together) on an 
Apple keyboard, and
the control and alt keys (held down together) on a Windows style keyboard.



 The command key on an Apple keyboard corresponds to the Windows key on a 
Windows style keyboard.





Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:28 PM

Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)



Hi Lois,

Nothing to be ashamed of.  We all have to learn somehow.

To show my ignorance as well, I am not completely  sure I have the right 
information on which Windows keys are what when used with an Apple device.

My best guess is that the control key is the same.

The options key would be the Windows Key.

And The application key would be the command key.



If the Windows keyboard has a function key, it would be the same.



I’m sure there is a list out there with a list of which Windows keys equal 
which Apple keys.

I know there are others on the list that can answer once they see these 
messages.



HTH,

Richard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



Okay, showing my ignorance here, by regular keyboard I mean not an Apple 
keyboard.  I’m not aware of an options

RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows Keyboard equivalents)

2017-10-26 Thread Richard Turner 
Hi,
The original question came from someone who has a Windows Bluetooth keyboard 
and was trying to figure out what keys she would use if connected to an iPhone.

I have the AmazonBasics keyboard and had recommended it because of having both 
options and control on both sides of the spacebar.
But, it hasn’t been available for at least 6 months, so I switched to the 
Logitech K480 since it can connect to three Bluetooth devices including Windows 
or Android along with Apple.

I will leave it to that person to finally sort out what keys on a Windows 
keyboard match up to the Apple keyboard commands.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)

Hi Richard,

I use a BATTOP keyboard from Amazon, & it doesn't have an application key / 
context menu key.  Here's my bottom row key layout.

My bottom row from left to right:
Left Function key, Control, Options / Alt, Command, Spacebar, Command, Options 
/ Alt, Up / down / left / right Arrow keys.

I don't know what key would be the application / context menu key using this 
keyboard being I've never used it with a Windows computer.  Also I don't know 
if iOS has an equivalent to the Windows context menu, unless it's the Rotor.

Systems switch between Android, Windows and iOS

QWERTY Keyboard Layout:
Press:” Fn” +” Q” for iOS
Press:” Fn” + ” W ”for Android
Press:” Fn” +” E ” for Windows

AZERTY keyboard Layout:
Press: ” Fn” +” A” for Android
Press: ” Fn” +” Z ”for Windows
Press: ” Fn” +” E ”for iOS


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)

OK,
I of course new that control+options was the VO key.
But to make sure we are all on the same page:
Windows key equals command key
Application key equals Options
And Control equals control.
Is that correct?

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)

Hi Richard,

The keys for VO are, the control and option keys (held down together) on an 
Apple keyboard, and
the control and alt keys (held down together) on a Windows style keyboard.

 The command key on an Apple keyboard corresponds to the Windows key on a 
Windows style keyboard.


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)

Hi Lois,
Nothing to be ashamed of.  We all have to learn somehow.
To show my ignorance as well, I am not completely  sure I have the right 
information on which Windows keys are what when used with an Apple device.
My best guess is that the control key is the same.
The options key would be the Windows Key.
And The application key would be the command key.

If the Windows keyboard has a function key, it would be the same.

I’m sure there is a list out there with a list of which Windows keys equal 
which Apple keys.
I know there are others on the list that can answer once they see these 
messages.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

Okay, showing my ignorance here, by regular keyboard I mean not an Apple 
keyboard.  I’m not aware of an options key on other than an apple keyboard. I 
thought the keys were Control, Function or vice versa, windows, and alt, with 
applications key on the right side as well.

I’m sure I’m going to feel like a fool, but please explain.

Thanks,
Lois

From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows Keyboard equivalents)

2017-10-26 Thread Mike B. 
Hi Richard,

I use a BATTOP keyboard from Amazon, & it doesn't have an application key / 
context menu key.  Here's my bottom row key layout.

My bottom row from left to right:
Left Function key, Control, Options / Alt, Command, Spacebar, Command, 
Options / Alt, Up / down / left / right Arrow keys.

I don't know what key would be the application / context menu key using this 
keyboard being I've never used it with a Windows computer.  Also I don't 
know if iOS has an equivalent to the Windows context menu, unless it's the 
Rotor.

Systems switch between Android, Windows and iOS

QWERTY Keyboard Layout:
Press:” Fn” +” Q” for iOS
Press:” Fn” + ” W ”for Android
Press:” Fn” +” E ” for Windows

AZERTY keyboard Layout:
Press: ” Fn” +” A” for Android
Press: ” Fn” +” Z ”for Windows
Press: ” Fn” +” E ”for iOS


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)


OK,

I of course new that control+options was the VO key.

But to make sure we are all on the same page:

Windows key equals command key

Application key equals Options

And Control equals control.

Is that correct?



Richard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)



Hi Richard,



The keys for VO are, the control and option keys (held down together) on an 
Apple keyboard, and
the control and alt keys (held down together) on a Windows style keyboard.



 The command key on an Apple keyboard corresponds to the Windows key on a 
Windows style keyboard.





Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:28 PM

Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)



Hi Lois,

Nothing to be ashamed of.  We all have to learn somehow.

To show my ignorance as well, I am not completely  sure I have the right 
information on which Windows keys are what when used with an Apple device.

My best guess is that the control key is the same.

The options key would be the Windows Key.

And The application key would be the command key.



If the Windows keyboard has a function key, it would be the same.



I’m sure there is a list out there with a list of which Windows keys equal 
which Apple keys.

I know there are others on the list that can answer once they see these 
messages.



HTH,

Richard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



Okay, showing my ignorance here, by regular keyboard I mean not an Apple 
keyboard.  I’m not aware of an options key on other than an apple keyboard. 
I thought the keys were Control, Function or vice versa, windows, and alt, 
with applications key on the right side as well.



I’m sure I’m going to feel like a fool, but please explain.



Thanks,

Lois



From: Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:47 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



Lois,

VO is control plus options not control plus command.

I do not know what you mean by a regular keyboard?

Richard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



My question is, if VO means control plus command, which doesn’t exist on a 
regular keyboard, what do you press instead.



Thanks,

Lois



From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:34 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



which is supposed to be the function key? I tried to use f1 to get to the 
app switcher and got nowhere.



From: Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 17:33

To: ViPone list

Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



According to the latest iOS 11 Keyboard commands from the Apple user guide, 
Function Key plus VO, plus n opens the notification center.

I have tried with both the Logitech k480 and the AmazonBasics keyboard and

RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows Keyboard equivalents)

2017-10-26 Thread Richard Turner 
OK,
I of course new that control+options was the VO key.
But to make sure we are all on the same page:
Windows key equals command key
Application key equals Options
And Control equals control.
Is that correct?

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)

Hi Richard,

The keys for VO are, the control and option keys (held down together) on an 
Apple keyboard, and
the control and alt keys (held down together) on a Windows style keyboard.

 The command key on an Apple keyboard corresponds to the Windows key on a 
Windows style keyboard.


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)

Hi Lois,
Nothing to be ashamed of.  We all have to learn somehow.
To show my ignorance as well, I am not completely  sure I have the right 
information on which Windows keys are what when used with an Apple device.
My best guess is that the control key is the same.
The options key would be the Windows Key.
And The application key would be the command key.

If the Windows keyboard has a function key, it would be the same.

I’m sure there is a list out there with a list of which Windows keys equal 
which Apple keys.
I know there are others on the list that can answer once they see these 
messages.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

Okay, showing my ignorance here, by regular keyboard I mean not an Apple 
keyboard.  I’m not aware of an options key on other than an apple keyboard. I 
thought the keys were Control, Function or vice versa, windows, and alt, with 
applications key on the right side as well.

I’m sure I’m going to feel like a fool, but please explain.

Thanks,
Lois

From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

Lois,
VO is control plus options not control plus command.
I do not know what you mean by a regular keyboard?
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

My question is, if VO means control plus command, which doesn’t exist on a 
regular keyboard, what do you press instead.

Thanks,
Lois

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

which is supposed to be the function key? I tried to use f1 to get to the app 
switcher and got nowhere.

From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 17:33
To: ViPone list<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

According to the latest iOS 11 Keyboard commands from the Apple user guide, 
Function Key plus VO, plus n opens the notification center.
I have tried with both the Logitech k480 and the AmazonBasics keyboard and it 
doesn’t work.
I do not have access to an Apple Wireless keyboard.  I wonder if it works with 
it?

Thanks,
Richard


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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows Keyboard equivalents)

2017-10-26 Thread Mike B. 
Hi Richard,

The keys for VO are, the control and option keys (held down together) on an 
Apple keyboard, and
the control and alt keys (held down together) on a Windows style keyboard.

 The command key on an Apple keyboard corresponds to the Windows key on a 
Windows style keyboard.


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows 
Keyboard equivalents)


Hi Lois,

Nothing to be ashamed of.  We all have to learn somehow.

To show my ignorance as well, I am not completely  sure I have the right 
information on which Windows keys are what when used with an Apple device.

My best guess is that the control key is the same.

The options key would be the Windows Key.

And The application key would be the command key.



If the Windows keyboard has a function key, it would be the same.



I’m sure there is a list out there with a list of which Windows keys equal 
which Apple keys.

I know there are others on the list that can answer once they see these 
messages.



HTH,

Richard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



Okay, showing my ignorance here, by regular keyboard I mean not an Apple 
keyboard.  I’m not aware of an options key on other than an apple keyboard. 
I thought the keys were Control, Function or vice versa, windows, and alt, 
with applications key on the right side as well.



I’m sure I’m going to feel like a fool, but please explain.



Thanks,

Lois



From: Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:47 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



Lois,

VO is control plus options not control plus command.

I do not know what you mean by a regular keyboard?

Richard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



My question is, if VO means control plus command, which doesn’t exist on a 
regular keyboard, what do you press instead.



Thanks,

Lois



From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:34 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



which is supposed to be the function key? I tried to use f1 to get to the 
app switcher and got nowhere.



From: Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 17:33

To: ViPone list

Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



According to the latest iOS 11 Keyboard commands from the Apple user guide, 
Function Key plus VO, plus n opens the notification center.

I have tried with both the Logitech k480 and the AmazonBasics keyboard and 
it doesn’t work.

I do not have access to an Apple Wireless keyboard.  I wonder if it works 
with it?



Thanks,

Richard





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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows Keyboard equivalents)

2017-10-26 Thread Kay Malmquist 
Wow!  I didn't know that!  Thank you.  That is cool!
Kay Malmquist
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:28 PM
  Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and 
Windows Keyboard equivalents)


  Hi Lois,

  Nothing to be ashamed of.  We all have to learn somehow.

  To show my ignorance as well, I am not completely  sure I have the right 
information on which Windows keys are what when used with an Apple device.

  My best guess is that the control key is the same.

  The options key would be the Windows Key.

  And The application key would be the command key.



  If the Windows keyboard has a function key, it would be the same.



  I’m sure there is a list out there with a list of which Windows keys equal 
which Apple keys.

  I know there are others on the list that can answer once they see these 
messages.



  HTH,

  Richard





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Lois Butterfield
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:59 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



  Okay, showing my ignorance here, by regular keyboard I mean not an Apple 
keyboard.  I’m not aware of an options key on other than an apple keyboard. 
I thought the keys were Control, Function or vice versa, windows, and alt, 
with applications key on the right side as well.



  I’m sure I’m going to feel like a fool, but please explain.



  Thanks,

  Lois



  From: Richard Turner

  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:47 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



  Lois,

  VO is control plus options not control plus command.

  I do not know what you mean by a regular keyboard?

  Richard





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Lois Butterfield
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:41 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



  My question is, if VO means control plus command, which doesn’t exist on a 
regular keyboard, what do you press instead.



  Thanks,

  Lois



  From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone

  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:34 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



  which is supposed to be the function key? I tried to use f1 to get to the 
app switcher and got nowhere.



  From: Richard Turner

  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 17:33

  To: ViPone list

  Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key



  According to the latest iOS 11 Keyboard commands from the Apple user 
guide, Function Key plus VO, plus n opens the notification center.

  I have tried with both the Logitech k480 and the AmazonBasics keyboard and 
it doesn’t work.

  I do not have access to an Apple Wireless keyboard.  I wonder if it works 
with it?



  Thanks,

  Richard





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RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key (and Windows Keyboard equivalents)

2017-10-26 Thread Richard Turner 
Hi Lois,
Nothing to be ashamed of.  We all have to learn somehow.
To show my ignorance as well, I am not completely  sure I have the right 
information on which Windows keys are what when used with an Apple device.
My best guess is that the control key is the same.
The options key would be the Windows Key.
And The application key would be the command key.

If the Windows keyboard has a function key, it would be the same.

I’m sure there is a list out there with a list of which Windows keys equal 
which Apple keys.
I know there are others on the list that can answer once they see these 
messages.

HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

Okay, showing my ignorance here, by regular keyboard I mean not an Apple 
keyboard.  I’m not aware of an options key on other than an apple keyboard. I 
thought the keys were Control, Function or vice versa, windows, and alt, with 
applications key on the right side as well.

I’m sure I’m going to feel like a fool, but please explain.

Thanks,
Lois

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

Lois,
VO is control plus options not control plus command.
I do not know what you mean by a regular keyboard?
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

My question is, if VO means control plus command, which doesn’t exist on a 
regular keyboard, what do you press instead.

Thanks,
Lois

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

which is supposed to be the function key? I tried to use f1 to get to the app 
switcher and got nowhere.

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 17:33
To: ViPone list
Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

According to the latest iOS 11 Keyboard commands from the Apple user guide, 
Function Key plus VO, plus n opens the notification center.
I have tried with both the Logitech k480 and the AmazonBasics keyboard and it 
doesn’t work.
I do not have access to an Apple Wireless keyboard.  I wonder if it works with 
it?

Thanks,
Richard


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