RE: Calls: Ending Calls-iPhone

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

I have no problem finding the answer or end buttons. However, sometimes that 
message button appears and it throws me off and I have been known to send 
someone to voicemail without meaning to now and then. I prefer my Plantronics 
Edge for the ability to just say answer or ignore because it is very simple and 
straight-forward.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

 

While I agree that being able to answer by pressing the home button and 
hangingup by pressing the power button might be another easy option, I don’t 
particularly consider it difficult to answer or hang up with a two-finger 
double tap or for that matter to locate the accept or end call buttons. They 
are right there above the home button and are pretty easy to find.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

 

So, this "feature" will not likely reappear.

In my humble opinion, then Samsung's GalaxyS6Edge & other Samsung MobilePhones, 
which utilize "its" HomeButton, provide "its" users an easier way to Answer&End 
Calls

Cause you can answer by simply Pressing the HomeButton & Ending the Call by 
Pressing the PowerButton 

Or, you can Locate the Answer&End Call Icon on the TouchScreen & DoubleTap it 

Or, you can simply Put YourFinger on the TouchScreen & SlideRight to Answer & 
Locate the EndCall Icon to End the Call 

At 09:36 PM 10/23/2015, you wrote:

No, I am pretty sure this is not an option any more ever since iOS 8 came out 
last year. I believe prior to that you could press the power button twice 
quickly when the phone was to your ear.
 
 
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Of Dr. Harshit Jaithwar
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:14 PM
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone
 
Hi, it's not working since I bought iPhone 6 with ios 8 and even in latest ios 
9.1. Is it a bug or the feature is removed?
 
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Robin mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>  > wrote:

Is there a "way" to utilize the PowerButton to EndCalls ON an iPhone? If so, 
(Please) Detail these "steps" for me & other interested Listers. Thanx 
YourServices are Much Appreciated!

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RE: Calls: Ending Calls-iPhone

[Robin]

Ever Wonder WHY (Ol'Sighty) considers 
OtherOptions 
"UniversalAccessibility-UniversalDesign" because 
"they" must FEEL if they can DoIt, Why can't others


As demonstrated by some of the ListMembers, who 
don't SEE the Need for additional "features" so 
"EveryOne" can benefit from using an iOSDevice


Stay IN YourBox
At 09:06 AM 10/24/2015, you wrote:

Hi,
I have no problem finding the answer or end 
buttons. However, sometimes that message button 
appears and it throws me off and I have been 
known to send someone to voicemail without 
meaning to now and then. I prefer my Plantronics 
Edge for the ability to just say answer or 
ignore because it is very simple and straight-forward.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

While I agree that being able to answer by 
pressing the home button and hangingup by 
pressing the power button might be another easy 
option, I don’t particularly consider it 
difficult to answer or hang up with a two-finger 
double tap or for that matter to locate the 
accept or end call buttons. They are right there 
above the home button and are pretty easy to find.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin

Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

So, this "feature" will not likely reappear.

In my humble opinion, then Samsung's 
GalaxyS6Edge & other Samsung MobilePhones, which 
utilize "its" HomeButton, provide "its" users an easier way to Answer&End Calls


Cause you can answer by simply Pressing the 
HomeButton & Ending the Call by Pressing the PowerButton


Or, you can Locate the Answer&End Call Icon on the TouchScreen & DoubleTap it

Or, you can simply Put YourFinger on the 
TouchScreen & SlideRight to Answer & Locate the EndCall Icon to End the Call


At 09:36 PM 10/23/2015, you wrote:
No, I am pretty sure this is not an option any 
more ever since iOS 8 came out last year. I 
believe prior to that you could press the power 
button twice quickly when the phone was to your ear.



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[ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Harshit Jaithwar

Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:14 PM
To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

Hi, it's not working since I bought iPhone 6 
with ios 8 and even in latest ios 9.1. Is it a bug or the feature is removed?


On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Robin 
<robin-mel...@comcast.net > wrote:
Is there a "way" to utilize the PowerButton to 
EndCalls ON an iPhone? If so, (Please) Detail 
these "steps" for me & other interested Listers. 
Thanx YourServices are Much Appreciated!

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RE: Calls: Ending Calls-iPhone

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
That is why I don't depend on the two finger double tap. Gestures have not 
always been reliable in IOS 9. Voiceover also has been known to cut out and as 
has been previously stated sometimes you are in noisy environments and 
voiceover is not an option.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

I agree, but the two finger double tap hasn't always been reliable. 
There have been IOS releases when it just didn't work reliably, and I've had 
times when it may or may not answer a call but starts playing my music. 
Obviously, if there are bugs with the two finger double tap then they need to 
be fixed, but having more options would also help.

On 10/24/2015 11:00 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> While I agree that being able to answer by pressing the home button 
> and hangingup by pressing the power button might be another easy 
> option, I don’t particularly consider it difficult to answer or hang 
> up with a two-finger double tap or for that matter to locate the 
> accept or end call buttons. They are right there above the home button 
> and are pretty easy to find.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Robin
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:09 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone
>
> So, this "feature" will not likely reappear.
>
> In my humble opinion, then Samsung's GalaxyS6Edge & other Samsung 
> MobilePhones, which utilize "its" HomeButton, provide "its" users an 
> easier way to Answer&End Calls
>
> Cause you can answer by simply Pressing the HomeButton & Ending the 
> Call by Pressing the PowerButton
>
> Or, you can Locate the Answer&End Call Icon on the TouchScreen & 
> DoubleTap it
>
> Or, you can simply Put YourFinger on the TouchScreen & SlideRight to 
> Answer & Locate the EndCall Icon to End the Call
>
> At 09:36 PM 10/23/2015, you wrote:
>
> No, I am pretty sure this is not an option any more ever since iOS 8
> came out last year. I believe prior to that you could press the
> power button twice quickly when the phone was to your ear.
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ]
> *On Behalf Of *Dr. Harshit Jaithwar
> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 9:14 PM
> *To:* viphone  >
> *Subject:* Re: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone
>
> Hi, it's not working since I bought iPhone 6 with ios 8 and even in
> latest ios 9.1. Is it a bug or the feature is removed?
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Robin   > wrote:
>
> Is there a "way" to utilize the PowerButton to EndCalls ON an
> iPhone? If so, (Please) Detail these "steps" for me & other
> interested Listers. Thanx YourServices are Much Appreciated!
>
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RE: Calls: Ending Calls-iPhone

[Robin]

I'm not saying Apple should DoAway with DoubleTap 
to Answer&End Calls, but should add additional gestures


MayBe that's not Apple

No Criticism Just Thoughts & Opinions  Based On 
MyExperience as Both an iOSUser & AndroidUser & WindowsUser

At 09:43 AM 10/24/2015, you wrote:

Hi,
That is why I don't depend on the two finger 
double tap. Gestures have not always been 
reliable in IOS 9. Voiceover also has been known 
to cut out and as has been previously stated 
sometimes you are in noisy environments and voiceover is not an option.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

I agree, but the two finger double tap hasn't always been reliable.
There have been IOS releases when it just didn't 
work reliably, and I've had times when it may or 
may not answer a call but starts playing my 
music. Obviously, if there are bugs with the two 
finger double tap then they need to be fixed, 
but having more options would also help.


On 10/24/2015 11:00 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> While I agree that being able to answer by pressing the home button
> and hangingup by pressing the power button might be another easy
> option, I don’t particularly consider it difficult to answer or hang
> up with a two-finger double tap or for that matter to locate the
> accept or end call buttons. They are right there above the home button
> and are pretty easy to find.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Robin
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:09 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone
>
> So, this "feature" will not likely reappear.
>
> In my humble opinion, then Samsung's GalaxyS6Edge & other Samsung
> MobilePhones, which utilize "its" HomeButton, provide "its" users an
> easier way to Answer&End Calls
>
> Cause you can answer by simply Pressing the HomeButton & Ending the
> Call by Pressing the PowerButton
>
> Or, you can Locate the Answer&End Call Icon on the TouchScreen &
> DoubleTap it
>
> Or, you can simply Put YourFinger on the TouchScreen & SlideRight to
> Answer & Locate the EndCall Icon to End the Call
>
> At 09:36 PM 10/23/2015, you wrote:
>
> No, I am pretty sure this is not an option any more ever since iOS 8
> came out last year. I believe prior to that you could press the
> power button twice quickly when the phone was to your ear.
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ]
> *On Behalf Of *Dr. Harshit Jaithwar
> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 9:14 PM
> *To:* viphone  >
> *Subject:* Re: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone
>
> Hi, it's not working since I bought iPhone 6 with ios 8 and even in
> latest ios 9.1. Is it a bug or the feature is removed?
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Robin   > wrote:
>
> Is there a "way" to utilize the PowerButton to EndCalls ON an
> iPhone? If so, (Please) Detail these "steps" for me & other
> interested Listers. Thanx YourServices are Much Appreciated!
>
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RE: Calls: Ending Calls-iPhone

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
When I had vision I had my 5S configured so I could quickly hit my home button 
three times and have a choice of reversing color as well as turning voiceover 
on or off. Now that I no longer can see an iPhone screen I only use the turn 
voiceover on or off occasionally if the phone misbehaves. I have often wondered 
what accessibility options some of the newer phones that are not iPhones offer 
but for obvious reasons can't ask here, smile! Especially the new Windows 10 
phones are making me curious.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

Hello Sieghard,  

While I agree with you in that I do not find it difficult to either answer or 
hang up a call, on iPhone, I will say that I do greatly appreciate the hardware 
button call and answer feature on my A T & T Samsung Galaxy S6.

I use my S6 for most of my business calls and when I return to my beloved 6 
Plus, I do find myself instinctively wanting to use the power button to hang up 
the device despite the fact that I use iPhone twice as often to make and 
receive calls.  

Since I'm ranting on, anyway, I'll add that, to me, the most valuable 
accessibility feature on iPhone, after VoiceOver, of course, is the ability to 
quickly invert colors.  

This feature was originally offered in Android and Apple adopted it.  
Conversely, the new built-in Samsung Voice Assist screen reader virtually 
copies most, if not all of the gestures first introduced by Apple's VoiceOver.  
As a result, Samsung devices are now a reasonable alternative to iPhone, for 
the blind and low vision.  

It should also be noted that all Android phones are hardwired to provide 
vibratory feedback when the device is either powered on or powered off, 
regardless of whether or not it is plugged into an A/C outlet.  For the past 5 
years or so, I've have been, all but begging apple to add this feature to its 
iOS devices as it would be of great value to those who cannot rely on their 
vision to ascertain the state of the device during a reboot, shut down, or 
power-up attempt.

I guess what I am trying to say is that we, as physically challenged consumers, 
benefit when companies copy, and in some cases, improve upon the accessibility 
features of other companies. 

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

While I agree that being able to answer by pressing the home button and 
hangingup by pressing the power button might be another easy option, I don’t 
particularly consider it difficult to answer or hang up with a two-finger 
double tap or for that matter to locate the accept or end call buttons. They 
are right there above the home button and are pretty easy to find.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

So, this "feature" will not likely reappear.

In my humble opinion, then Samsung's GalaxyS6Edge & other Samsung MobilePhones, 
which utilize "its" HomeButton, provide "its" users an easier way to Answer&End 
Calls

Cause you can answer by simply Pressing the HomeButton & Ending the Call by 
Pressing the PowerButton 

Or, you can Locate the Answer&End Call Icon on the TouchScreen & DoubleTap it 

Or, you can simply Put YourFinger on the TouchScreen & SlideRight to Answer & 
Locate the EndCall Icon to End the Call 

At 09:36 PM 10/23/2015, you wrote:
No, I am pretty sure this is not an option any more ever since iOS 8 came out 
last year. I believe prior to that you could press the power button twice 
quickly when the phone was to your ear.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dr. Harshit Jaithwar
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 9:14 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Re: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone
 
Hi, it's not working since I bought iPhone 6 with ios 8 and even in latest ios 
9.1. Is it a bug or the feature is removed?
 
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Robin  wrote:
Is there a "way" to utilize the PowerButton to EndCalls ON an iPhone? If so, 
(Please) Detail these "steps" for me & other interested Listers. Thanx 
YourServices are Much Appreciated!
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RE: Calls: Ending Calls-iPhone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Merv,

I think it's OK to post this since it does still relate to iOS even though I am 
going to make an argument against Windows 10 phones. I think one very 
compelling reason why one would not want such a phone even if it had fairly 
good accessibility would be the complete lack of apps. Apps we nowadays almost 
take or granted to have and certainly would think of essential are not going to 
be available. Things like Blindsquare, KNFB Reader, Voicedream Reader etc. Even 
sighted people find that many apps people want are not there for Windows phones 
which is in my opinion a big reason why they have only 3 or 4% of the market 
share.
One thing I found interesting was when I read an article a few days ago that 
Blackberry is releasing a new handset soon which is running Android, but with a 
number of Blackberry security overlays. Blackberry of course is by now in an 
even worse position as Windows phones and I guess they are hoping that using 
Android on a well-made Blackberry phone which has all the security especially 
corporate users expect from Blackberry along with what the Google Play store 
and Google ecosystem has to offer it will be a popular option. I guess we have 
to wait and see, but given that it's not exactly a cheap phone and also that 
iPhones nowadays probably have security which rivals or surpasses that of 
Blackberry makes me think it will not put them back on the map as a major 
competitor to companies like Apple and Samsung.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: Ending Calls-iPhone

Hi,
When I had vision I had my 5S configured so I could quickly hit my home button 
three times and have a choice of reversing color as well as turning voiceover 
on or off. Now that I no longer can see an iPhone screen I only use the turn 
voiceover on or off occasionally if the phone misbehaves. I have often wondered 
what accessibility options some of the newer phones that are not iPhones offer 
but for obvious reasons can't ask here, smile! Especially the new Windows 10 
phones are making me curious.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

Hello Sieghard,  

While I agree with you in that I do not find it difficult to either answer or 
hang up a call, on iPhone, I will say that I do greatly appreciate the hardware 
button call and answer feature on my A T & T Samsung Galaxy S6.

I use my S6 for most of my business calls and when I return to my beloved 6 
Plus, I do find myself instinctively wanting to use the power button to hang up 
the device despite the fact that I use iPhone twice as often to make and 
receive calls.  

Since I'm ranting on, anyway, I'll add that, to me, the most valuable 
accessibility feature on iPhone, after VoiceOver, of course, is the ability to 
quickly invert colors.  

This feature was originally offered in Android and Apple adopted it.  
Conversely, the new built-in Samsung Voice Assist screen reader virtually 
copies most, if not all of the gestures first introduced by Apple's VoiceOver.  
As a result, Samsung devices are now a reasonable alternative to iPhone, for 
the blind and low vision.  

It should also be noted that all Android phones are hardwired to provide 
vibratory feedback when the device is either powered on or powered off, 
regardless of whether or not it is plugged into an A/C outlet.  For the past 5 
years or so, I've have been, all but begging apple to add this feature to its 
iOS devices as it would be of great value to those who cannot rely on their 
vision to ascertain the state of the device during a reboot, shut down, or 
power-up attempt.

I guess what I am trying to say is that we, as physically challenged consumers, 
benefit when companies copy, and in some cases, improve upon the accessibility 
features of other companies. 

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

While I agree that being able to answer by pressing the home button and 
hangingup by pressing the power button might be another easy option, I don’t 
particularly consider it difficult to answer or hang up with a two-finger 
double tap or for that matter to locate the accept or end call buttons. They 
are right there above the home button and are pretty easy to find.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

So, this "feat

RE: Calls: Ending Calls-iPhone

[Merv Keck]

Hi,
I always thought Blackberry lacked in security. Didn't they have issues a few 
years ago because the White House didn’t want their email or text messages 
going all the way through a foreign server and then back to the White house so 
they switched everyone to a new brand of phone and caused a big stir.
I am very happy with my iPhone although I am waiting for my opportunity to 
upgrade to a 6S this spring.
I did just encounter something possibly strange involving Windows 10 and my 
iPhone but will make a new message at the risk of hijacking a thread.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: Ending Calls-iPhone

Hi Merv,

I think it's OK to post this since it does still relate to iOS even though I am 
going to make an argument against Windows 10 phones. I think one very 
compelling reason why one would not want such a phone even if it had fairly 
good accessibility would be the complete lack of apps. Apps we nowadays almost 
take or granted to have and certainly would think of essential are not going to 
be available. Things like Blindsquare, KNFB Reader, Voicedream Reader etc. Even 
sighted people find that many apps people want are not there for Windows phones 
which is in my opinion a big reason why they have only 3 or 4% of the market 
share.
One thing I found interesting was when I read an article a few days ago that 
Blackberry is releasing a new handset soon which is running Android, but with a 
number of Blackberry security overlays. Blackberry of course is by now in an 
even worse position as Windows phones and I guess they are hoping that using 
Android on a well-made Blackberry phone which has all the security especially 
corporate users expect from Blackberry along with what the Google Play store 
and Google ecosystem has to offer it will be a popular option. I guess we have 
to wait and see, but given that it's not exactly a cheap phone and also that 
iPhones nowadays probably have security which rivals or surpasses that of 
Blackberry makes me think it will not put them back on the map as a major 
competitor to companies like Apple and Samsung.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: Ending Calls-iPhone

Hi,
When I had vision I had my 5S configured so I could quickly hit my home button 
three times and have a choice of reversing color as well as turning voiceover 
on or off. Now that I no longer can see an iPhone screen I only use the turn 
voiceover on or off occasionally if the phone misbehaves. I have often wondered 
what accessibility options some of the newer phones that are not iPhones offer 
but for obvious reasons can't ask here, smile! Especially the new Windows 10 
phones are making me curious.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls: EndingCalls-iPhone

Hello Sieghard,  

While I agree with you in that I do not find it difficult to either answer or 
hang up a call, on iPhone, I will say that I do greatly appreciate the hardware 
button call and answer feature on my A T & T Samsung Galaxy S6.

I use my S6 for most of my business calls and when I return to my beloved 6 
Plus, I do find myself instinctively wanting to use the power button to hang up 
the device despite the fact that I use iPhone twice as often to make and 
receive calls.  

Since I'm ranting on, anyway, I'll add that, to me, the most valuable 
accessibility feature on iPhone, after VoiceOver, of course, is the ability to 
quickly invert colors.  

This feature was originally offered in Android and Apple adopted it.  
Conversely, the new built-in Samsung Voice Assist screen reader virtually 
copies most, if not all of the gestures first introduced by Apple's VoiceOver.  
As a result, Samsung devices are now a reasonable alternative to iPhone, for 
the blind and low vision.  

It should also be noted that all Android phones are hardwired to provide 
vibratory feedback when the device is either powered on or powered off, 
regardless of whether or not it is plugged into an A/C outlet.  For the past 5 
years or so, I've have been, all but begging apple to add this feature to its 
iOS devices as it would be of great value to those who cannot rely on their 
vision to ascertain the state of the device during a reboot, shut down, or 
power-up attempt.

I guess what I am trying to say is that we, as physically challenged consumers, 
benefit when companies copy, and in some cases, improve upon the accessibility 
features of other companies. 

Mark

Fr