RE: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

2018-10-22 Thread Apple Gourmet-
Wow! Awesome! Wonderful!
 Such a wealth of information and advice on this email thread!   Anyone 
considering upgrading their Wi-Fi network should read it!
Thank you very much!  

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RE: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

2018-10-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Thanks, and yes, I do indeed know this, I have done my own networking both at 
home and at my retail store for the last 20 years and while I am perfectly 
happy to connect just about everything wirelessly there, at my business I still 
use more of a wired network. I bought a Cisco 24-port business grade switch 
some years back which also includes 12 POE ports should I ever want to switch 
to a Voip phone systems where the deskphones require both connectivity and 
power. It’s very noisy with a loud fan, but it’s tucked away in a little room 
upstairs where I keep my modem, switch, our current old Nortel phone system KSU 
as well as the PC which acts as our file server and which will soon get 
replaced with a Synology DS918+ 4-bay NAS unit.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

It sounds like you chose a great router. You may already know this, however, 
that one port you said is free at the moment, well, if you need to turn that 
into more than one, just buy a good switch with the number of additional ports 
you might need. Happy networking, and if you have any questions just ask.
Wayne


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 11:23 PM
Subject: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

Hi,

I thought I briefly share this experience. I recently bought two Netgear Orbi 
mesh routers, one Home edition and one Pro/Business edition for my retail store.
Nowadays having a robust WiFi network is essential especially if you have some 
home automation devices and are moving towards more home automation. Things 
like the ring Video Doorbell or Skybell HD Video Doorbell are installed outside 
the house and even in a relatively normal sized home the WiFi signal outside 
the fron tdoor may not be the best if the router is located in the office on 
the other end of the house as it is the case for our house. Of course at my 
retail store the problem is worse since it is quite a bit larger, it has two 
floors and the outside of the wall in back has metal siding which doesn’t help 
the signal. I had a traditional WiFi extender before and while it is set up 
upstairs right against the outside wall and the Ring Video Doorbell is 
basically just below it and maybe 10 feet over, we had nothing but issues and 
even standing outside with my phone I often only showed 1 bar on the WiFi.
So, 2 days ago the Netgear Orbi home came, I purchased the version which comes 
with 1 satellite and in the description it says that this package should be 
good for a home up to 5000 sqft. Our house is significantly smaller, but I set 
up the main unit near the modem where our fibre connection terminates which is 
in the office at the very back of the house and it’s about in the middle when 
you look at the house from left to right. The satellite I put in the kitchen 
which overlooks the entry hall, it’s probably about 35 or so feet from the main 
unit and all the way on one side of the house. This unit is also only maybe 10 
feet away from our entertainment stand with the TV, our Apple TV and my wife’s 
TV box for getting The Filipino Channel. It is also super close to the front 
door where our video doorbell is and just outside the wall is our deck off the 
kitchen.
After I finally figured out how to configure the routers we are now getting 3 
out of 3 bars everywhere in the house as well as outside both on the deck, in 
front and in the backyard and suddenly it is actually quite quick and easy to 
answer the Ring Video Doorbell which before often would just sit there saying 
“Loading”. I had a Netgear Nighthawk X6 AC3200 router before which is a very 
high-end unit with 6 antennas, but it doesn’t even come close to the 
performance of the Netgear Orbi.
The Orbi has an app which is quite accessible and the web interface where you 
can do quite a lot more is also very accessible from what I have seen so far. 
The main unit has 4 ports, one is your Internet connection where you connect it 
to your ADSL, cable or fibre modem and there are 3 ports to hook up devices. I 
am using one for our Philips Hue bridge, another to plug in one of my Sonos 
players and I am currently not using the third, at some point I plan to get a 
NAS unit for at home and then I’ll need it for that. The satellite unit which 
looks identical has also 4 ports, all are ethernet ports where you can plug 
stuff in if you want.
Here at home I use WiFi for pretty much everything, my laptop, printer as well 
as the Apple TV and my wife’s Filipino channel set top box. These could all be 
plugged in, but much easier without cables. All our other stuff needs to be 
wireless anyways, but I did find out how much of a pain it is to change WiFi 
networks, here is what we all had to reconnect to 

Re: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

2018-10-21 Thread Arlene
It sounds like you chose a great router. You may already know this, however, 
that one port you said is free at the moment, well, if you need to turn that 
into more than one, just buy a good switch with the number of additional ports 
you might need. Happy networking, and if you have any questions just ask.
Wayne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 11:23 PM
  Subject: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi


  Hi,

   

  I thought I briefly share this experience. I recently bought two Netgear Orbi 
mesh routers, one Home edition and one Pro/Business edition for my retail store.

  Nowadays having a robust WiFi network is essential especially if you have 
some home automation devices and are moving towards more home automation. 
Things like the ring Video Doorbell or Skybell HD Video Doorbell are installed 
outside the house and even in a relatively normal sized home the WiFi signal 
outside the fron tdoor may not be the best if the router is located in the 
office on the other end of the house as it is the case for our house. Of course 
at my retail store the problem is worse since it is quite a bit larger, it has 
two floors and the outside of the wall in back has metal siding which doesn’t 
help the signal. I had a traditional WiFi extender before and while it is set 
up upstairs right against the outside wall and the Ring Video Doorbell is 
basically just below it and maybe 10 feet over, we had nothing but issues and 
even standing outside with my phone I often only showed 1 bar on the WiFi.

  So, 2 days ago the Netgear Orbi home came, I purchased the version which 
comes with 1 satellite and in the description it says that this package should 
be good for a home up to 5000 sqft. Our house is significantly smaller, but I 
set up the main unit near the modem where our fibre connection terminates which 
is in the office at the very back of the house and it’s about in the middle 
when you look at the house from left to right. The satellite I put in the 
kitchen which overlooks the entry hall, it’s probably about 35 or so feet from 
the main unit and all the way on one side of the house. This unit is also only 
maybe 10 feet away from our entertainment stand with the TV, our Apple TV and 
my wife’s TV box for getting The Filipino Channel. It is also super close to 
the front door where our video doorbell is and just outside the wall is our 
deck off the kitchen.

  After I finally figured out how to configure the routers we are now getting 3 
out of 3 bars everywhere in the house as well as outside both on the deck, in 
front and in the backyard and suddenly it is actually quite quick and easy to 
answer the Ring Video Doorbell which before often would just sit there saying 
“Loading”. I had a Netgear Nighthawk X6 AC3200 router before which is a very 
high-end unit with 6 antennas, but it doesn’t even come close to the 
performance of the Netgear Orbi.

  The Orbi has an app which is quite accessible and the web interface where you 
can do quite a lot more is also very accessible from what I have seen so far. 
The main unit has 4 ports, one is your Internet connection where you connect it 
to your ADSL, cable or fibre modem and there are 3 ports to hook up devices. I 
am using one for our Philips Hue bridge, another to plug in one of my Sonos 
players and I am currently not using the third, at some point I plan to get a 
NAS unit for at home and then I’ll need it for that. The satellite unit which 
looks identical has also 4 ports, all are ethernet ports where you can plug 
stuff in if you want.

  Here at home I use WiFi for pretty much everything, my laptop, printer as 
well as the Apple TV and my wife’s Filipino channel set top box. These could 
all be plugged in, but much easier without cables. All our other stuff needs to 
be wireless anyways, but I did find out how much of a pain it is to change WiFi 
networks, here is what we all had to reconnect to the new WiFi network:

  4 Amazon Echo speakers

  Honeywell Lyric T5 thermostat

  Ring Video Doorbell

  Apple TV

  Filipino Channel Set top box

  My iPhone, my wife’s iPhone and the laptop (those were easy)

  HP Officejet Printer

  2 Nest Protect smoke alarms

  Withings/Nokia Body Plus smartscale

  Sonos and Philips Hue just worked as they are wired

   

  I should get the Netgear Orbi Pro next week, then I can have some more fun 
doing the same thing at my store although here most of the computers are wired 
as is the larger Officejet printer, but we do have 5 Dropam (now Nestcam) 2 
WiFi thermostats, a Skybell HD which by the way even on the current WiFi works 
way bettter than the Ring Pro we had before.

  Then there are 4 of the Meross smart wall switches I just purchased and which 
work great with a super-accessible app and setup process as well as two Amazon 
Echo speakers.

  I really look forward for these Netgear Orbi mesh routers to 

Re: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

2018-10-20 Thread Eric Oyen
Wait till you start using the 60Ghz 10 Gbps capable mesh units that should be 
getting marketed next year. QWualcomm introduced their new chips with this 
capability a few days ago. The only real issue I see with such short 
wavelengths (millimeter waves) is that they can be easily blocked by a sheet 
rock wall or brick even thick enough cardboard. Still, if you have a mesh 
network setup outside, then having other units within 100 feet could make for a 
very fast neighborhood network. :)

-Eric


> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I’ve got a second generation Eero with two extenders for a 3300 SQFT house. 
> Run two businesses out of it. 4k, TV, regular HD TVs, Fire Sticks/Fire TVs, 
> Ring Video Pro, desktop/laptops/wireless printer, iOS devices, etc. The one 
> thing we really don’t do are all that smart speaker/home automation  stuff 
> and yeah, Once you go mesh, you never go back. My TPLink triband AC router is 
> sitting in the closet collecting dust wondering what it did wrong.
> The one issue I’m still having is that my Ring Video still hangs when trying 
> to answer an alert. I really haven’t tried figuring it out though. My signal 
> in the garage where all my workout stuff is solid and I can get my Netflix on 
> and Pandora out to my heart’s content back there all I want while on the 
> treadmill or bike or whatever. My garage is further than where the Ring and 
> front door is so who nows.
> Anyway . . . yes, a Mesh system for serious connectivity really is the future.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I thought I briefly share this experience. I recently bought two Netgear Orbi 
> mesh routers, one Home edition and one Pro/Business edition for my retail 
> store.
> Nowadays having a robust WiFi network is essential especially if you have 
> some home automation devices and are moving towards more home automation. 
> Things like the ring Video Doorbell or Skybell HD Video Doorbell are 
> installed outside the house and even in a relatively normal sized home the 
> WiFi signal outside the fron tdoor may not be the best if the router is 
> located in the office on the other end of the house as it is the case for our 
> house. Of course at my retail store the problem is worse since it is quite a 
> bit larger, it has two floors and the outside of the wall in back has metal 
> siding which doesn’t help the signal. I had a traditional WiFi extender 
> before and while it is set up upstairs right against the outside wall and the 
> Ring Video Doorbell is basically just below it and maybe 10 feet over, we had 
> nothing but issues and even standing outside with my phone I often only 
> showed 1 bar on the WiFi.
> So, 2 days ago the Netgear Orbi home came, I purchased the version which 
> comes with 1 satellite and in the description it says that this package 
> should be good for a home up to 5000 sqft. Our house is significantly 
> smaller, but I set up the main unit near the modem where our fibre connection 
> terminates which is in the office at the very back of the house and it’s 
> about in the middle when you look at the house from left to right. The 
> satellite I put in the kitchen which overlooks the entry hall, it’s probably 
> about 35 or so feet from the main unit and all the way on one side of the 
> house. This unit is also only maybe 10 feet away from our entertainment stand 
> with the TV, our Apple TV and my wife’s TV box for getting The Filipino 
> Channel. It is also super close to the front door where our video doorbell is 
> and just outside the wall is our deck off the kitchen.
> After I finally figured out how to configure the routers we are now getting 3 
> out of 3 bars everywhere in the house as well as outside both on the deck, in 
> front and in the backyard and suddenly it is actually quite quick and easy to 
> answer the Ring Video Doorbell which before often would just sit there saying 
> “Loading”. I had a Netgear Nighthawk X6 AC3200 router before which is a very 
> high-end unit with 6 antennas, but it doesn’t even come close to the 
> performance of the Netgear Orbi.
> The Orbi has an app which is quite accessible and the web interface where you 
> can do quite a lot more is also very accessible from what I have seen so far. 
> The main unit has 4 ports, one is your Internet connection where you connect 
> it to your ADSL, cable or fibre modem and there are 3 ports to hook up 
> devices. I am using one for our Philips Hue bridge, another to plug in one of 
> my Sonos players and I am currently not using the third, at some point I plan 
> to get a NAS unit for at home and then I’ll need it for that. The satellite 
> unit which looks identical has also 4 ports, all are ethernet ports where you 
> can plug stuff in if you want.
> Here at home I use 

RE: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

2018-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Maybe you could integrate them, but there really is no point I my opinion. The 
advantage of a mesh router like the Eero or Netgear Orbi or Linksys Velop is 
that it creates a seamless WiFi network which is different from what you get 
with a traditional router and extenders. I spend quite a bit of time deciding 
which to get and while the eero was the original company who came up with the 
concept, the Netgear does one thing nobody else does, it uses one of the 5Ghz 
radios/channels as a backchannel or whatever they call it, i.e. the connection 
between the router and satellite or satellites is one that one 5 Ghz band and 
apparently the Netgear Orbi is pretty much at the top when it comes to speed. 
These mesh routers pop up like mushrooms in the fall now, just received an 
email from Synology that they are releasing a brandnew mesh router as well and 
given the reviews of their regular router I assume it will also be a good 
product. The Netgear Nighthawk X6 Triband router I had before was over $300 
canadian so by no means a cheap router, but when I recently upgraded my fibre 
connection from 125 Mbps download to 250 Mbps I would only get the 125 speed on 
anything connected to the Netgear Nighthawk. I assume maybe it was a setting or 
cable issue, but I ended up using the WiFi generated by my provider’s modem for 
a while until I got the Orbi. When I hooked it up I did so with a new Cat-6 
cable I ordered, one of the Amazzon Basic cables, and after it was set up I did 
a speedtest and I am now getting the full speed.
Cristobal is correct, these mesh systems are definitely the way to go. If your 
system with Airport Extreme and Airport Expresses works well I wouldn’t be in a 
hurry to change it. I bought this because I was frustrated with the WiFi I had 
never performing as well as I wanted it to. The Netgear Orbi Home package with 
1 satellite I bought was $426.99 on Amazon Canada, it was listed at a regular 
price of $499.99. I just checked on Amazon.com and it is currently listed at 
$328.97 US. There are multiple Orbi systems, I bought the fastest Triband 
system, the model is RBK50, there is also a less expensive RBK23 version. Here 
is the link for the one I bought:

NETGEAR Orbi Ultra-Performance Whole Home Mesh WiFi System - fastest WiFi 
router and single satellite extender with speeds up to 3 Gbps over 5,000 sq. 
feet, AC3000 
(RBK50)<https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Orbi-Ultra-Performance-Whole-System/dp/B01K4CZOBS/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc=UTF8=1540049249=1-3=netgear+orbi>


Regards,
Sieghard

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 4:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

For using an AirPort Extreme etc with the Netgear Orbi, what I found on the web 
is:
“My settings on the Airport (connected by ethernet to the Orbi via a switch):

Router mode:  Off(Bridge Mode)

Network Mode: Create a Wireless Network

SSID/Password:  Same as the Orbi network

Internet Connection:  DHCP



You must put AirPort Extreme, AirPort Time Capsule, and AirPort Express in 
bridge mode for the devices to function properly with your Orbi WiFi System.”

Does this actually work to be able to use the old Apple routers in conjunction 
with the mesh system?

Harry

On 20 Oct 2018, at 05:23, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi,

I thought I briefly share this experience. I recently bought two Netgear Orbi 
mesh routers, one Home edition and one Pro/Business edition for my retail store.
Nowadays having a robust WiFi network is essential especially if you have some 
home automation devices and are moving towards more home automation. Things 
like the ring Video Doorbell or Skybell HD Video Doorbell are installed outside 
the house and even in a relatively normal sized home the WiFi signal outside 
the fron tdoor may not be the best if the router is located in the office on 
the other end of the house as it is the case for our house. Of course at my 
retail store the problem is worse since it is quite a bit larger, it has two 
floors and the outside of the wall in back has metal siding which doesn’t help 
the signal. I had a traditional WiFi extender before and while it is set up 
upstairs right against the outside wall and the Ring Video Doorbell is 
basically just below it and maybe 10 feet over, we had nothing but issues and 
even standing outside with my phone I often only showed 1 bar on the WiFi.
So, 2 days ago the Netgear Orbi home came, I purchased the version which comes 
with 1 satellite and in the description it says that this package should be 
good for a home up to 5000 sqft. Our house is significantly smaller, but I set 
up the main unit near the modem where our fibre connection terminates which is 
in the office at the very back of the house and it’s about in the middle when 
you look at the house from left to right. The satellite I put in the kitchen 
which overlooks the entry hall, it’s probably about 3

Re: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

2018-10-20 Thread Mary Otten
I got the Orbi mesh router a few months ago, and my expresses connected just 
fine to it. I only use them for airplay. And the Orby works wonderfully well, 
giving me signal in places where my airport extreme never did very well.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Apple Gourmet-  wrote:
> 
> I’m currently using an Apple extreme with for Apple airport express. Will I 
> have to junk these if I get a mesh router?
> Any suggestions on what to do with my Apple extreme and for airport expresses 
> which were quite expensive?
> Thank you very much!   
> 
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Re: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

2018-10-20 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
For using an AirPort Extreme etc with the Netgear Orbi, what I found on the web 
is:
“My settings on the Airport (connected by ethernet to the Orbi via a switch): 
Router mode:  Off(Bridge Mode)
Network Mode: Create a Wireless Network
SSID/Password:  Same as the Orbi network
Internet Connection:  DHCP

You must put AirPort Extreme, AirPort Time Capsule, and AirPort Express in 
bridge mode for the devices to function properly with your Orbi WiFi System.”
Does this actually work to be able to use the old Apple routers in conjunction 
with the mesh system? 
Harry

> On 20 Oct 2018, at 05:23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I thought I briefly share this experience. I recently bought two Netgear Orbi 
> mesh routers, one Home edition and one Pro/Business edition for my retail 
> store.
> Nowadays having a robust WiFi network is essential especially if you have 
> some home automation devices and are moving towards more home automation. 
> Things like the ring Video Doorbell or Skybell HD Video Doorbell are 
> installed outside the house and even in a relatively normal sized home the 
> WiFi signal outside the fron tdoor may not be the best if the router is 
> located in the office on the other end of the house as it is the case for our 
> house. Of course at my retail store the problem is worse since it is quite a 
> bit larger, it has two floors and the outside of the wall in back has metal 
> siding which doesn’t help the signal. I had a traditional WiFi extender 
> before and while it is set up upstairs right against the outside wall and the 
> Ring Video Doorbell is basically just below it and maybe 10 feet over, we had 
> nothing but issues and even standing outside with my phone I often only 
> showed 1 bar on the WiFi.
> So, 2 days ago the Netgear Orbi home came, I purchased the version which 
> comes with 1 satellite and in the description it says that this package 
> should be good for a home up to 5000 sqft. Our house is significantly 
> smaller, but I set up the main unit near the modem where our fibre connection 
> terminates which is in the office at the very back of the house and it’s 
> about in the middle when you look at the house from left to right. The 
> satellite I put in the kitchen which overlooks the entry hall, it’s probably 
> about 35 or so feet from the main unit and all the way on one side of the 
> house. This unit is also only maybe 10 feet away from our entertainment stand 
> with the TV, our Apple TV and my wife’s TV box for getting The Filipino 
> Channel. It is also super close to the front door where our video doorbell is 
> and just outside the wall is our deck off the kitchen.
> After I finally figured out how to configure the routers we are now getting 3 
> out of 3 bars everywhere in the house as well as outside both on the deck, in 
> front and in the backyard and suddenly it is actually quite quick and easy to 
> answer the Ring Video Doorbell which before often would just sit there saying 
> “Loading”. I had a Netgear Nighthawk X6 AC3200 router before which is a very 
> high-end unit with 6 antennas, but it doesn’t even come close to the 
> performance of the Netgear Orbi.
> The Orbi has an app which is quite accessible and the web interface where you 
> can do quite a lot more is also very accessible from what I have seen so far. 
> The main unit has 4 ports, one is your Internet connection where you connect 
> it to your ADSL, cable or fibre modem and there are 3 ports to hook up 
> devices. I am using one for our Philips Hue bridge, another to plug in one of 
> my Sonos players and I am currently not using the third, at some point I plan 
> to get a NAS unit for at home and then I’ll need it for that. The satellite 
> unit which looks identical has also 4 ports, all are ethernet ports where you 
> can plug stuff in if you want.
> Here at home I use WiFi for pretty much everything, my laptop, printer as 
> well as the Apple TV and my wife’s Filipino channel set top box. These could 
> all be plugged in, but much easier without cables. All our other stuff needs 
> to be wireless anyways, but I did find out how much of a pain it is to change 
> WiFi networks, here is what we all had to reconnect to the new WiFi network:
> 4 Amazon Echo speakers
> Honeywell Lyric T5 thermostat
> Ring Video Doorbell
> Apple TV
> Filipino Channel Set top box
> My iPhone, my wife’s iPhone and the laptop (those were easy)
> HP Officejet Printer
> 2 Nest Protect smoke alarms
> Withings/Nokia Body Plus smartscale
> Sonos and Philips Hue just worked as they are wired
>  
> I should get the Netgear Orbi Pro next week, then I can have some more fun 
> doing the same thing at my store although here most of the computers are 
> wired as is the larger Officejet printer, but we do have 5 Dropam (now 
> Nestcam) 2 WiFi thermostats, a Skybell HD which by the way even on the 
> current WiFi works way bettter than the Ring Pro we had before.
> Then there are 4 of the Meross smart wall switches 

RE: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

2018-10-20 Thread Apple Gourmet-
 I’m currently using an Apple extreme with for Apple airport express. Will I 
have to junk these if I get a mesh router?
 Any suggestions on what to do with my Apple extreme and for airport expresses 
which were quite expensive?
Thank you very much!   

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RE: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

2018-10-19 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
I’ve got a second generation Eero with two extenders for a 3300 SQFT house. Run 
two businesses out of it. 4k, TV, regular HD TVs, Fire Sticks/Fire TVs, Ring 
Video Pro, desktop/laptops/wireless printer, iOS devices, etc. The one thing we 
really don’t do are all that smart speaker/home automation  stuff and yeah, 
Once you go mesh, you never go back. My TPLink triband AC router is sitting in 
the closet collecting dust wondering what it did wrong.

The one issue I’m still having is that my Ring Video still hangs when trying to 
answer an alert. I really haven’t tried figuring it out though. My signal in 
the garage where all my workout stuff is solid and I can get my Netflix on and 
Pandora out to my heart’s content back there all I want while on the treadmill 
or bike or whatever. My garage is further than where the Ring and front door is 
so who nows.

Anyway . . . yes, a Mesh system for serious connectivity really is the future.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

 

Hi,

 

I thought I briefly share this experience. I recently bought two Netgear Orbi 
mesh routers, one Home edition and one Pro/Business edition for my retail store.

Nowadays having a robust WiFi network is essential especially if you have some 
home automation devices and are moving towards more home automation. Things 
like the ring Video Doorbell or Skybell HD Video Doorbell are installed outside 
the house and even in a relatively normal sized home the WiFi signal outside 
the fron tdoor may not be the best if the router is located in the office on 
the other end of the house as it is the case for our house. Of course at my 
retail store the problem is worse since it is quite a bit larger, it has two 
floors and the outside of the wall in back has metal siding which doesn’t help 
the signal. I had a traditional WiFi extender before and while it is set up 
upstairs right against the outside wall and the Ring Video Doorbell is 
basically just below it and maybe 10 feet over, we had nothing but issues and 
even standing outside with my phone I often only showed 1 bar on the WiFi.

So, 2 days ago the Netgear Orbi home came, I purchased the version which comes 
with 1 satellite and in the description it says that this package should be 
good for a home up to 5000 sqft. Our house is significantly smaller, but I set 
up the main unit near the modem where our fibre connection terminates which is 
in the office at the very back of the house and it’s about in the middle when 
you look at the house from left to right. The satellite I put in the kitchen 
which overlooks the entry hall, it’s probably about 35 or so feet from the main 
unit and all the way on one side of the house. This unit is also only maybe 10 
feet away from our entertainment stand with the TV, our Apple TV and my wife’s 
TV box for getting The Filipino Channel. It is also super close to the front 
door where our video doorbell is and just outside the wall is our deck off the 
kitchen.

After I finally figured out how to configure the routers we are now getting 3 
out of 3 bars everywhere in the house as well as outside both on the deck, in 
front and in the backyard and suddenly it is actually quite quick and easy to 
answer the Ring Video Doorbell which before often would just sit there saying 
“Loading”. I had a Netgear Nighthawk X6 AC3200 router before which is a very 
high-end unit with 6 antennas, but it doesn’t even come close to the 
performance of the Netgear Orbi.

The Orbi has an app which is quite accessible and the web interface where you 
can do quite a lot more is also very accessible from what I have seen so far. 
The main unit has 4 ports, one is your Internet connection where you connect it 
to your ADSL, cable or fibre modem and there are 3 ports to hook up devices. I 
am using one for our Philips Hue bridge, another to plug in one of my Sonos 
players and I am currently not using the third, at some point I plan to get a 
NAS unit for at home and then I’ll need it for that. The satellite unit which 
looks identical has also 4 ports, all are ethernet ports where you can plug 
stuff in if you want.

Here at home I use WiFi for pretty much everything, my laptop, printer as well 
as the Apple TV and my wife’s Filipino channel set top box. These could all be 
plugged in, but much easier without cables. All our other stuff needs to be 
wireless anyways, but I did find out how much of a pain it is to change WiFi 
networks, here is what we all had to reconnect to the new WiFi network:

4 Amazon Echo speakers

Honeywell Lyric T5 thermostat

Ring Video Doorbell

Apple TV

Filipino Channel Set top box

My iPhone, my wife’s iPhone and the laptop (those were easy)

HP Officejet Printer

2 Nest Protect smoke alarms

Withings/Nokia Body Plus smartscale

Sonos and Philips Hue just worked as they are