Re: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

2015-02-06 Thread David Chittenden
In iOS 8, this type of complexity is no longer necessary. When adding an event, 
there is now a timezone field at the start time. Select the timezone of the 
event and Apple Calendar will do the appropriate calculations. In fact, I 
schedule flights with different timezones for departure and arrival times 
(start and end), and Calendar automatically calculates properly.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 6 Feb 2015, at 14:39, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You've probably already figured this out, and it's been a while since I've 
 taken my iPhone across time zones where I've had to worry about calendar 
 events, but here's what I think you need to do.
 
 If an event is scheduled for 8AM Pacific or 10AM Central, and you're 
 currently in the Central time zone then schedule the event for 10AM. Once you 
 show up in the Pacific time zone, your phone should reset itself and the 
 appointment should be scheduled at 8AM local time.
 
 Note I usually schedule events in Google Calendar or subscribe to a 
 conferences ical calendar, but I always check to see if the time zones have 
 sorted themselves out when I get to the event.
 
 On 02/05/2015 12:21 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
 No. All you need to do is make sure your phone time indicates the current 
 local time on the day in question. So, if it's 6pm local time and your phone 
 tells you it is 6pm phone time, you're good to  go. Your phone will pull the 
 local time from the cell tower, I believe.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:59 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Scheduling events in multiple time zones
 
 Thanks. I saw a reference to automatic time zone updating in the time/date 
 settings. Would it make a difference if this was turned on?
 Would it adversely affect my appointments?
 
 Wayne
 
 On 2/5/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 Schedule the appointment for 8 am if it's an 8am appointment. Your
 phone's time will adjust to the local time when you're on the ground,
 and it will see the 8 am scheduled 8 am appointment at the local time, 8 am.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:05 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Scheduling events in multiple time zones
 
 Greetings all. I will be going to the CSUN conference in March. I want
 to schedule some of the sessions and other events in either the native
 calendar or Fantastical 2 but I have some questions about the multiple
 time zones. I live in Central time but the events of course would be
 in Pacific. How would I do this? Do I need to schedule in PST
 specifically when making the appointment, or do I schedule in Central
 and let the iPhone's clock adjust the time zones? As of yet I haven't
 run into this issue before with the calendar, and don't want an
 appointment that I set for an 8am start to actually occur at 6am when
 I'm in California. Using an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.1.3.
 
 Thanks all,
 Wayne Merritt
 
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Re: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

2015-02-06 Thread David Chittenden
I double-tapped on the timezone field. I double-tapped on the search field. I 
typed san diego in the edit field. I right-flicked and found San Diego. After I 
double-tapped San Diego, it listed as San Diego USA:

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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 7 Feb 2015, at 03:51, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks all for the information. Is there an abbreviation I can use for
 Pacific time? I've tried to search for California and San Diego in the
 time zone edit box but can't find any matches.
 
 Wayne
 
 On 2/6/15, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's probably obvious to everyone else, but I find time zone
 calculations to always be strangely confusing to me. If you're going to
 change the time zone when setting an appointment make sure you put in
 the time for the time zone you're setting it to. If the appointment is
 8AM Pacific and 10AM Central then make sure you enter 8AM if you're
 going to be setting the time zone to Pacific.
 
 When I worked for a small international company, where I traveled a lot
 and people from all over the world were setting up teleconferences, I
 got into the habit of just always using UTC and then letting my phone or
 computer figure out the rest. The trick is still knowing what time zone
 the person setting up the meeting is using.
 
 On 02/06/2015 02:13 AM, David Chittenden wrote:
 In iOS 8, this type of complexity is no longer necessary. When adding an
 event, there is now a timezone field at the start time. Select the
 timezone of the event and Apple Calendar will do the appropriate
 calculations. In fact, I schedule flights with different timezones for
 departure and arrival times (start and end), and Calendar automatically
 calculates properly.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 6 Feb 2015, at 14:39, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 You've probably already figured this out, and it's been a while since
 I've taken my iPhone across time zones where I've had to worry about
 calendar events, but here's what I think you need to do.
 
 If an event is scheduled for 8AM Pacific or 10AM Central, and you're
 currently in the Central time zone then schedule the event for 10AM. Once
 you show up in the Pacific time zone, your phone should reset itself and
 the appointment should be scheduled at 8AM local time.
 
 Note I usually schedule events in Google Calendar or subscribe to a
 conferences ical calendar, but I always check to see if the time zones
 have sorted themselves out when I get to the event.
 
 On 02/05/2015 12:21 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
 No. All you need to do is make sure your phone time indicates the
 current local time on the day in question. So, if it's 6pm local time
 and your phone tells you it is 6pm phone time, you're good to  go. Your
 phone will pull the local time from the cell tower, I believe.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:59 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Scheduling events in multiple time zones
 
 Thanks. I saw a reference to automatic time zone updating in the
 time/date settings. Would it make a difference if this was turned on?
 Would it adversely affect my appointments?
 
 Wayne
 
 On 2/5/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu
 wrote:
 Schedule the appointment for 8 am if it's an 8am appointment. Your
 phone's time will adjust to the local time when you're on the ground,
 and it will see the 8 am scheduled 8 am appointment at the local time,
 8 am.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:05 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Scheduling events in multiple time zones
 
 Greetings all. I will be going to the CSUN conference in March. I want
 to schedule some of the sessions and other events in either the native
 calendar or Fantastical 2 but I have some questions about the multiple
 time zones. I live in Central time but the events of course would be
 in Pacific. How would I do this? Do I need to schedule in PST
 specifically when making the appointment, or do I schedule in Central
 and let the iPhone's clock adjust the time zones? As of yet I haven't
 run into this issue before with the calendar, and don't want an
 appointment that I set for an 8am start to actually occur at 6am when
 I'm in California. Using an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.1.3.
 
 Thanks all,
 Wayne Merritt
 
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Re: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

2015-02-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
It's probably obvious to everyone else, but I find time zone 
calculations to always be strangely confusing to me. If you're going to 
change the time zone when setting an appointment make sure you put in 
the time for the time zone you're setting it to. If the appointment is 
8AM Pacific and 10AM Central then make sure you enter 8AM if you're 
going to be setting the time zone to Pacific.


When I worked for a small international company, where I traveled a lot 
and people from all over the world were setting up teleconferences, I 
got into the habit of just always using UTC and then letting my phone or 
computer figure out the rest. The trick is still knowing what time zone 
the person setting up the meeting is using.


On 02/06/2015 02:13 AM, David Chittenden wrote:

In iOS 8, this type of complexity is no longer necessary. When adding an event, 
there is now a timezone field at the start time. Select the timezone of the 
event and Apple Calendar will do the appropriate calculations. In fact, I 
schedule flights with different timezones for departure and arrival times 
(start and end), and Calendar automatically calculates properly.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 6 Feb 2015, at 14:39, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

You've probably already figured this out, and it's been a while since I've 
taken my iPhone across time zones where I've had to worry about calendar 
events, but here's what I think you need to do.

If an event is scheduled for 8AM Pacific or 10AM Central, and you're currently 
in the Central time zone then schedule the event for 10AM. Once you show up in 
the Pacific time zone, your phone should reset itself and the appointment 
should be scheduled at 8AM local time.

Note I usually schedule events in Google Calendar or subscribe to a conferences 
ical calendar, but I always check to see if the time zones have sorted 
themselves out when I get to the event.


On 02/05/2015 12:21 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
No. All you need to do is make sure your phone time indicates the current local 
time on the day in question. So, if it's 6pm local time and your phone tells 
you it is 6pm phone time, you're good to  go. Your phone will pull the local 
time from the cell tower, I believe.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

Thanks. I saw a reference to automatic time zone updating in the time/date 
settings. Would it make a difference if this was turned on?
Would it adversely affect my appointments?

Wayne


On 2/5/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
Schedule the appointment for 8 am if it's an 8am appointment. Your
phone's time will adjust to the local time when you're on the ground,
and it will see the 8 am scheduled 8 am appointment at the local time, 8 am.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:05 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

Greetings all. I will be going to the CSUN conference in March. I want
to schedule some of the sessions and other events in either the native
calendar or Fantastical 2 but I have some questions about the multiple
time zones. I live in Central time but the events of course would be
in Pacific. How would I do this? Do I need to schedule in PST
specifically when making the appointment, or do I schedule in Central
and let the iPhone's clock adjust the time zones? As of yet I haven't
run into this issue before with the calendar, and don't want an
appointment that I set for an 8am start to actually occur at 6am when
I'm in California. Using an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.1.3.

Thanks all,
Wayne Merritt

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Re: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

2015-02-06 Thread Wayne Merritt
Thanks all for the information. Is there an abbreviation I can use for
Pacific time? I've tried to search for California and San Diego in the
time zone edit box but can't find any matches.

Wayne

On 2/6/15, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's probably obvious to everyone else, but I find time zone
 calculations to always be strangely confusing to me. If you're going to
 change the time zone when setting an appointment make sure you put in
 the time for the time zone you're setting it to. If the appointment is
 8AM Pacific and 10AM Central then make sure you enter 8AM if you're
 going to be setting the time zone to Pacific.

 When I worked for a small international company, where I traveled a lot
 and people from all over the world were setting up teleconferences, I
 got into the habit of just always using UTC and then letting my phone or
 computer figure out the rest. The trick is still knowing what time zone
 the person setting up the meeting is using.

 On 02/06/2015 02:13 AM, David Chittenden wrote:
 In iOS 8, this type of complexity is no longer necessary. When adding an
 event, there is now a timezone field at the start time. Select the
 timezone of the event and Apple Calendar will do the appropriate
 calculations. In fact, I schedule flights with different timezones for
 departure and arrival times (start and end), and Calendar automatically
 calculates properly.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 6 Feb 2015, at 14:39, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 You've probably already figured this out, and it's been a while since
 I've taken my iPhone across time zones where I've had to worry about
 calendar events, but here's what I think you need to do.

 If an event is scheduled for 8AM Pacific or 10AM Central, and you're
 currently in the Central time zone then schedule the event for 10AM. Once
 you show up in the Pacific time zone, your phone should reset itself and
 the appointment should be scheduled at 8AM local time.

 Note I usually schedule events in Google Calendar or subscribe to a
 conferences ical calendar, but I always check to see if the time zones
 have sorted themselves out when I get to the event.

 On 02/05/2015 12:21 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
 No. All you need to do is make sure your phone time indicates the
 current local time on the day in question. So, if it's 6pm local time
 and your phone tells you it is 6pm phone time, you're good to  go. Your
 phone will pull the local time from the cell tower, I believe.

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:59 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

 Thanks. I saw a reference to automatic time zone updating in the
 time/date settings. Would it make a difference if this was turned on?
 Would it adversely affect my appointments?

 Wayne

 On 2/5/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu
 wrote:
 Schedule the appointment for 8 am if it's an 8am appointment. Your
 phone's time will adjust to the local time when you're on the ground,
 and it will see the 8 am scheduled 8 am appointment at the local time,
 8 am.

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:05 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

 Greetings all. I will be going to the CSUN conference in March. I want
 to schedule some of the sessions and other events in either the native
 calendar or Fantastical 2 but I have some questions about the multiple
 time zones. I live in Central time but the events of course would be
 in Pacific. How would I do this? Do I need to schedule in PST
 specifically when making the appointment, or do I schedule in Central
 and let the iPhone's clock adjust the time zones? As of yet I haven't
 run into this issue before with the calendar, and don't want an
 appointment that I set for an 8am start to actually occur at 6am when
 I'm in California. Using an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.1.3.

 Thanks all,
 Wayne Merritt

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RE: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

2015-02-05 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Schedule the appointment for 8 am if it's an 8am appointment. Your phone's time 
will adjust to the local time when you're on the ground, and it will see the 8 
am scheduled 8 am appointment at the local time, 8 am.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:05 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

Greetings all. I will be going to the CSUN conference in March. I want
to schedule some of the sessions and other events in either the native
calendar or Fantastical 2 but I have some questions about the multiple
time zones. I live in Central time but the events of course would be
in Pacific. How would I do this? Do I need to schedule in PST
specifically when making the appointment, or do I schedule in Central
and let the iPhone's clock adjust the time zones? As of yet I haven't
run into this issue before with the calendar, and don't want an
appointment that I set for an 8am start to actually occur at 6am when
I'm in California. Using an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.1.3.

Thanks all,
Wayne Merritt

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Re: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

2015-02-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You've probably already figured this out, and it's been a while since 
I've taken my iPhone across time zones where I've had to worry about 
calendar events, but here's what I think you need to do.


If an event is scheduled for 8AM Pacific or 10AM Central, and you're 
currently in the Central time zone then schedule the event for 10AM. 
Once you show up in the Pacific time zone, your phone should reset 
itself and the appointment should be scheduled at 8AM local time.


Note I usually schedule events in Google Calendar or subscribe to a 
conferences ical calendar, but I always check to see if the time zones 
have sorted themselves out when I get to the event.


On 02/05/2015 12:21 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

No. All you need to do is make sure your phone time indicates the current local 
time on the day in question. So, if it's 6pm local time and your phone tells 
you it is 6pm phone time, you're good to  go. Your phone will pull the local 
time from the cell tower, I believe.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

Thanks. I saw a reference to automatic time zone updating in the time/date 
settings. Would it make a difference if this was turned on?
Would it adversely affect my appointments?

Wayne

On 2/5/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

Schedule the appointment for 8 am if it's an 8am appointment. Your
phone's time will adjust to the local time when you're on the ground,
and it will see the 8 am scheduled 8 am appointment at the local time, 8 am.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:05 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

Greetings all. I will be going to the CSUN conference in March. I want
to schedule some of the sessions and other events in either the native
calendar or Fantastical 2 but I have some questions about the multiple
time zones. I live in Central time but the events of course would be
in Pacific. How would I do this? Do I need to schedule in PST
specifically when making the appointment, or do I schedule in Central
and let the iPhone's clock adjust the time zones? As of yet I haven't
run into this issue before with the calendar, and don't want an
appointment that I set for an 8am start to actually occur at 6am when
I'm in California. Using an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.1.3.

Thanks all,
Wayne Merritt

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RE: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

2015-02-05 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
No. All you need to do is make sure your phone time indicates the current local 
time on the day in question. So, if it's 6pm local time and your phone tells 
you it is 6pm phone time, you're good to  go. Your phone will pull the local 
time from the cell tower, I believe. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

Thanks. I saw a reference to automatic time zone updating in the time/date 
settings. Would it make a difference if this was turned on?
Would it adversely affect my appointments?

Wayne

On 2/5/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 Schedule the appointment for 8 am if it's an 8am appointment. Your 
 phone's time will adjust to the local time when you're on the ground, 
 and it will see the 8 am scheduled 8 am appointment at the local time, 8 am.

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
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 Subject: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

 Greetings all. I will be going to the CSUN conference in March. I want 
 to schedule some of the sessions and other events in either the native 
 calendar or Fantastical 2 but I have some questions about the multiple 
 time zones. I live in Central time but the events of course would be 
 in Pacific. How would I do this? Do I need to schedule in PST 
 specifically when making the appointment, or do I schedule in Central 
 and let the iPhone's clock adjust the time zones? As of yet I haven't 
 run into this issue before with the calendar, and don't want an 
 appointment that I set for an 8am start to actually occur at 6am when 
 I'm in California. Using an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.1.3.

 Thanks all,
 Wayne Merritt

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Re: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

2015-02-05 Thread Wayne Merritt
Thanks. I saw a reference to automatic time zone updating in the
time/date settings. Would it make a difference if this was turned on?
Would it adversely affect my appointments?

Wayne

On 2/5/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 Schedule the appointment for 8 am if it's an 8am appointment. Your phone's
 time will adjust to the local time when you're on the ground, and it will
 see the 8 am scheduled 8 am appointment at the local time, 8 am.

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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:05 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Scheduling events in multiple time zones

 Greetings all. I will be going to the CSUN conference in March. I want
 to schedule some of the sessions and other events in either the native
 calendar or Fantastical 2 but I have some questions about the multiple
 time zones. I live in Central time but the events of course would be
 in Pacific. How would I do this? Do I need to schedule in PST
 specifically when making the appointment, or do I schedule in Central
 and let the iPhone's clock adjust the time zones? As of yet I haven't
 run into this issue before with the calendar, and don't want an
 appointment that I set for an 8am start to actually occur at 6am when
 I'm in California. Using an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.1.3.

 Thanks all,
 Wayne Merritt

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