RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
Thanks Joseph. I have a ton to learn. Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Yes, the keyboard should provide you with access to just about everything a touch of the screen can do. I have found using a Bluetooth keyboard very strange on an iOS device. It seems to take much more effort interacting with iOS via keyboard rather than simply picking up the device and using the touch screen. For example, when I first launched the iOS Calculator to begin using with my external keyboard, I believed I could enter numbers using the number row on the external keyboard, but this is of course not the case in iOS. One must use the keyboard equivalent of a swiping gesture to locate numbers on the calculator. This is of course incredibly inefficient, and one will find it difficult to ignore the desire to pickup the iDevice and begin tapping on the keypad rather than using the external keyboard. I hope someone knows of a better solution and will increase the list's pool of knowledge. Smile. Oh yeah, to actually answer your question... You can use your Bluetooth keyboard's right arrow key to move to an app then, depending on the keyboard, execute a simultaneous press of the up and down arrow keys to actually open an app. Joseph - Original Message - From: jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:59 PM Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Jenny, I have a question for you. Can you go to an item with your blue tooth keyboard, and open that item, and then, make it do what it is supposed to do, just using commands from your keyboard? Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi Jim, If you go to: www.appleVis.com there are tons of podcasts on the iDevices. There is a podcast on bluetooth keyboards that I think was done pretty well. That said, you are in the right group, and I hope we can answer some of your specific questions. I also have an iPad mini and I use it more than my PC nowdays. Hope this helps, Jenn Sent from my iPad On Jun 17, 2014, at 6:59 PM, jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hi All, I apologize if I’m in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don’t seem to work on it. I’m about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I’ve been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The
Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
Also, if quick navigation is off, which it should be by default if you're not in andedit field, you can just press right or left arrow to go forward or back through items as if you were flicking on the screen using one finger. When you want to activate something, press up and down arrow together at the same time. Thanks, Ari On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:14 PM, jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com wrote: Thank you Alex, there is hope for me yet. Smile. Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. The most essential commands are control-option-left or right arrow, to move left or right (like flicking one finger). Control-option-space will activate (simulate a double tap) the item VO just spoke. I don't know about this specific keyboard, but try just control-alt (alt and option are the same thing, usually) instead of that shift key. Yes, applevis.com is a great resource, and I encourage you to look up bluetooth keyboards and iOS to see what resources are available. Also, try control-option-k to enter keyboard learn mode, so you can play with all the keys and commands and hear exactly what they do. On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:49 PM, jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hello sieghard, I have a Zag blue tooth keyboard. I'm using the book from Braille Press, and keep in mind that I've been a windows computer user for 15 years, using jaws. I know that things are different on the IPad mini, so I get that, but, I thought with my blue tooth keyboard, I could move from item to item and open them, from the keyboard. The command alt commands aren't working, for example, It says to tap and item command alt space bar should do it. Does that mean open it, or just highlight it? In either case, when I try to follow through on the item, I get no results. Besides, to get the alt key to work on this keyboard, I have to shift to get the option key to become an alt key. So, the command is ?Command, alt, space bar, but I have to throw in the shift key to make the alt key work. It's awkward. So, I guess what I am asking is this. Is it worth it, to try to use the Bluetooth keyboard to do all that with the IPad, or just use it for writing? I'm having a hard time trying to learn jesters etc. Frown. Thanks if or your help. Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi Jim, Welcome and yes, things will get better. I am off to work now and it would also help if you were a bit more specific as to what exactly does not work with your Bluetooth keyboard. Can you give some specific examples of commands you are trying and which don't do what they should? Also, which keyboard do you have? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to work on it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
Good point, and I'll work on that. I just want it all yesterday. smile. Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. HI Jim, Using a keyboard you will have to learn a whole new set of keyboard commands, so just know that it will take time. I too just began using an iOS device with a keyboard and found little logic to the command structure--enter doesn't seem to enter :), so I decided its time to crank up the muscle memory until the commands fall into reflex status. If you are new to a touch screen, I suggest you first try to learn how to use the device as it was intended so you can learn the logic of iOS. Once you learn how to interact with the device using touch, you can then move on to using a keyboard and such. Joseph - Original Message - From: jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to work on it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
Thank you Alex, there is hope for me yet. Smile. Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. The most essential commands are control-option-left or right arrow, to move left or right (like flicking one finger). Control-option-space will activate (simulate a double tap) the item VO just spoke. I don't know about this specific keyboard, but try just control-alt (alt and option are the same thing, usually) instead of that shift key. Yes, applevis.com is a great resource, and I encourage you to look up bluetooth keyboards and iOS to see what resources are available. Also, try control-option-k to enter keyboard learn mode, so you can play with all the keys and commands and hear exactly what they do. On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:49 PM, jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hello sieghard, I have a Zag blue tooth keyboard. I'm using the book from Braille Press, and keep in mind that I've been a windows computer user for 15 years, using jaws. I know that things are different on the IPad mini, so I get that, but, I thought with my blue tooth keyboard, I could move from item to item and open them, from the keyboard. The command alt commands aren't working, for example, It says to tap and item command alt space bar should do it. Does that mean open it, or just highlight it? In either case, when I try to follow through on the item, I get no results. Besides, to get the alt key to work on this keyboard, I have to shift to get the option key to become an alt key. So, the command is ?Command, alt, space bar, but I have to throw in the shift key to make the alt key work. It's awkward. So, I guess what I am asking is this. Is it worth it, to try to use the Bluetooth keyboard to do all that with the IPad, or just use it for writing? I'm having a hard time trying to learn jesters etc. Frown. Thanks if or your help. Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi Jim, Welcome and yes, things will get better. I am off to work now and it would also help if you were a bit more specific as to what exactly does not work with your Bluetooth keyboard. Can you give some specific examples of commands you are trying and which don't do what they should? Also, which keyboard do you have? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to work on it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
Jenny, I have a question for you. Can you go to an item with your blue tooth keyboard, and open that item, and then, make it do what it is supposed to do, just using commands from your keyboard? Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi Jim, If you go to: www.appleVis.com there are tons of podcasts on the iDevices. There is a podcast on bluetooth keyboards that I think was done pretty well. That said, you are in the right group, and I hope we can answer some of your specific questions. I also have an iPad mini and I use it more than my PC nowdays. Hope this helps, Jenn Sent from my iPad On Jun 17, 2014, at 6:59 PM, jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hi All, I apologize if I’m in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don’t seem to work on it. I’m about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I’ve been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
Hi Jim, I'm not Jenny (I Hope *smile*), but yes, you can navigate to an app and open it, you can then navigate inside the app and double tap buttons etc. Personally I find using the touch screen a lot more efficient and I only use my Bluetooth keyboard if I actually want to type text, but if, for example, I want to reply to an email I use the touch screen to do so and then only use the keyboard to type my message. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Jenny, I have a question for you. Can you go to an item with your blue tooth keyboard, and open that item, and then, make it do what it is supposed to do, just using commands from your keyboard? Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi Jim, If you go to: www.appleVis.com there are tons of podcasts on the iDevices. There is a podcast on bluetooth keyboards that I think was done pretty well. That said, you are in the right group, and I hope we can answer some of your specific questions. I also have an iPad mini and I use it more than my PC nowdays. Hope this helps, Jenn Sent from my iPad On Jun 17, 2014, at 6:59 PM, jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hi All, I apologize if I’m in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don’t seem to work on it. I’m about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I’ve been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of
Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
Yes, the keyboard should provide you with access to just about everything a touch of the screen can do. I have found using a Bluetooth keyboard very strange on an iOS device. It seems to take much more effort interacting with iOS via keyboard rather than simply picking up the device and using the touch screen. For example, when I first launched the iOS Calculator to begin using with my external keyboard, I believed I could enter numbers using the number row on the external keyboard, but this is of course not the case in iOS. One must use the keyboard equivalent of a swiping gesture to locate numbers on the calculator. This is of course incredibly inefficient, and one will find it difficult to ignore the desire to pickup the iDevice and begin tapping on the keypad rather than using the external keyboard. I hope someone knows of a better solution and will increase the list's pool of knowledge. Smile. Oh yeah, to actually answer your question... You can use your Bluetooth keyboard's right arrow key to move to an app then, depending on the keyboard, execute a simultaneous press of the up and down arrow keys to actually open an app. Joseph - Original Message - From: jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:59 PM Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Jenny, I have a question for you. Can you go to an item with your blue tooth keyboard, and open that item, and then, make it do what it is supposed to do, just using commands from your keyboard? Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi Jim, If you go to: www.appleVis.com there are tons of podcasts on the iDevices. There is a podcast on bluetooth keyboards that I think was done pretty well. That said, you are in the right group, and I hope we can answer some of your specific questions. I also have an iPad mini and I use it more than my PC nowdays. Hope this helps, Jenn Sent from my iPad On Jun 17, 2014, at 6:59 PM, jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hi All, I apologize if I’m in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don’t seem to work on it. I’m about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I’ve been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list
Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
You will undoubtedly use the touch screen much more often than a Bluetooth keyboard, so it might be easier and will benefit you in the long run to first learn how the device was meant to be used, then experiment with alternative ways of interacting with it such as external keyboard and such. Joseph - Original Message - From: jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Thank you Alex, there is hope for me yet. Smile. Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. The most essential commands are control-option-left or right arrow, to move left or right (like flicking one finger). Control-option-space will activate (simulate a double tap) the item VO just spoke. I don't know about this specific keyboard, but try just control-alt (alt and option are the same thing, usually) instead of that shift key. Yes, applevis.com is a great resource, and I encourage you to look up bluetooth keyboards and iOS to see what resources are available. Also, try control-option-k to enter keyboard learn mode, so you can play with all the keys and commands and hear exactly what they do. On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:49 PM, jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hello sieghard, I have a Zag blue tooth keyboard. I'm using the book from Braille Press, and keep in mind that I've been a windows computer user for 15 years, using jaws. I know that things are different on the IPad mini, so I get that, but, I thought with my blue tooth keyboard, I could move from item to item and open them, from the keyboard. The command alt commands aren't working, for example, It says to tap and item command alt space bar should do it. Does that mean open it, or just highlight it? In either case, when I try to follow through on the item, I get no results. Besides, to get the alt key to work on this keyboard, I have to shift to get the option key to become an alt key. So, the command is ?Command, alt, space bar, but I have to throw in the shift key to make the alt key work. It's awkward. So, I guess what I am asking is this. Is it worth it, to try to use the Bluetooth keyboard to do all that with the IPad, or just use it for writing? I'm having a hard time trying to learn jesters etc. Frown. Thanks if or your help. Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi Jim, Welcome and yes, things will get better. I am off to work now and it would also help if you were a bit more specific as to what exactly does not work with your Bluetooth keyboard. Can you give some specific examples of commands you are trying and which don't do what they should? Also, which keyboard do you have? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to work on it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is
RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
Hi Jim, Welcome and yes, things will get better. I am off to work now and it would also help if you were a bit more specific as to what exactly does not work with your Bluetooth keyboard. Can you give some specific examples of commands you are trying and which don't do what they should? Also, which keyboard do you have? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to work on it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
Hello sieghard, I have a Zag blue tooth keyboard. I'm using the book from Braille Press, and keep in mind that I've been a windows computer user for 15 years, using jaws. I know that things are different on the IPad mini, so I get that, but, I thought with my blue tooth keyboard, I could move from item to item and open them, from the keyboard. The command alt commands aren't working, for example, It says to tap and item command alt space bar should do it. Does that mean open it, or just highlight it? In either case, when I try to follow through on the item, I get no results. Besides, to get the alt key to work on this keyboard, I have to shift to get the option key to become an alt key. So, the command is ?Command, alt, space bar, but I have to throw in the shift key to make the alt key work. It's awkward. So, I guess what I am asking is this. Is it worth it, to try to use the Bluetooth keyboard to do all that with the IPad, or just use it for writing? I'm having a hard time trying to learn jesters etc. Frown. Thanks if or your help. Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi Jim, Welcome and yes, things will get better. I am off to work now and it would also help if you were a bit more specific as to what exactly does not work with your Bluetooth keyboard. Can you give some specific examples of commands you are trying and which don't do what they should? Also, which keyboard do you have? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to work on it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
Hi Jim, If you go to: www.appleVis.com there are tons of podcasts on the iDevices. There is a podcast on bluetooth keyboards that I think was done pretty well. That said, you are in the right group, and I hope we can answer some of your specific questions. I also have an iPad mini and I use it more than my PC nowdays. Hope this helps, Jenn Sent from my iPad On Jun 17, 2014, at 6:59 PM, jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hi All, I apologize if I’m in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don’t seem to work on it. I’m about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I’ve been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
The most essential commands are control-option-left or right arrow, to move left or right (like flicking one finger). Control-option-space will activate (simulate a double tap) the item VO just spoke. I don't know about this specific keyboard, but try just control-alt (alt and option are the same thing, usually) instead of that shift key. Yes, applevis.com is a great resource, and I encourage you to look up bluetooth keyboards and iOS to see what resources are available. Also, try control-option-k to enter keyboard learn mode, so you can play with all the keys and commands and hear exactly what they do. On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:49 PM, jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hello sieghard, I have a Zag blue tooth keyboard. I'm using the book from Braille Press, and keep in mind that I've been a windows computer user for 15 years, using jaws. I know that things are different on the IPad mini, so I get that, but, I thought with my blue tooth keyboard, I could move from item to item and open them, from the keyboard. The command alt commands aren't working, for example, It says to tap and item command alt space bar should do it. Does that mean open it, or just highlight it? In either case, when I try to follow through on the item, I get no results. Besides, to get the alt key to work on this keyboard, I have to shift to get the option key to become an alt key. So, the command is ?Command, alt, space bar, but I have to throw in the shift key to make the alt key work. It's awkward. So, I guess what I am asking is this. Is it worth it, to try to use the Bluetooth keyboard to do all that with the IPad, or just use it for writing? I'm having a hard time trying to learn jesters etc. Frown. Thanks if or your help. Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi Jim, Welcome and yes, things will get better. I am off to work now and it would also help if you were a bit more specific as to what exactly does not work with your Bluetooth keyboard. Can you give some specific examples of commands you are trying and which don't do what they should? Also, which keyboard do you have? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to work on it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
To activate an app the command is control option spacebar the command key is not used for this. Write me off list and I will be happy to work with you. It will only cost you a smile and a grin! yeshuatalmi...@gmail.com If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? - Original Message - From: jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:49 PM Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hello sieghard, I have a Zag blue tooth keyboard. I'm using the book from Braille Press, and keep in mind that I've been a windows computer user for 15 years, using jaws. I know that things are different on the IPad mini, so I get that, but, I thought with my blue tooth keyboard, I could move from item to item and open them, from the keyboard. The command alt commands aren't working, for example, It says to tap and item command alt space bar should do it. Does that mean open it, or just highlight it? In either case, when I try to follow through on the item, I get no results. Besides, to get the alt key to work on this keyboard, I have to shift to get the option key to become an alt key. So, the command is ?Command, alt, space bar, but I have to throw in the shift key to make the alt key work. It's awkward. So, I guess what I am asking is this. Is it worth it, to try to use the Bluetooth keyboard to do all that with the IPad, or just use it for writing? I'm having a hard time trying to learn jesters etc. Frown. Thanks if or your help. Jim -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi Jim, Welcome and yes, things will get better. I am off to work now and it would also help if you were a bit more specific as to what exactly does not work with your Bluetooth keyboard. Can you give some specific examples of commands you are trying and which don't do what they should? Also, which keyboard do you have? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to work on it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any
Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
Here is a podcast https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/9e3q9x There is one command that is partially mentioned in this podcast. He tells you how to move and app to a folder. If you need to create a folder with apps you have downloaded do the following: 1. shift+control+option+m on the first app to start the process 2. go to the app you wish to create the folder with and repeat the move command. This will create the folder. From this point you can use the method he shows to add other apps to the folder. If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? - Original Message - From: jim rawls To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:59 PM Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to work on it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad.
HI Jim, Using a keyboard you will have to learn a whole new set of keyboard commands, so just know that it will take time. I too just began using an iOS device with a keyboard and found little logic to the command structure--enter doesn't seem to enter :), so I decided its time to crank up the muscle memory until the commands fall into reflex status. If you are new to a touch screen, I suggest you first try to learn how to use the device as it was intended so you can learn the logic of iOS. Once you learn how to interact with the device using touch, you can then move on to using a keyboard and such. Joseph - Original Message - From: jim rawls jazzpi...@ca.rr.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to work on it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
