RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent Voiceover Changes?

[Connie Skeen]

Hi Alan,

 

Try changing your punctuation from none to some.  That should fix the problem.  


 

Connie Skeen

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent Voiceover Changes?

 

No, I am not experiencing these either, but I use Alex, I hate Samantha, she 
smokes way too much! LOL.  

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

While I appreciate your opinion, I've always preferred the Samantha high 
quality voice and the default lower quality one doesn't change the issue I 
posted about. In addition to my original post differences, I'm also noticing 
that my status bar now pronounces the number of wifi bars as weefee bars when 
I'm sure it used to say WyFie bars. And my battery charge now says 93 battery 
power instead of 93 percent battery power as it used to.

 

Rebooting my phone or choosing the default voices doesn't change these new 
pronunciations and I'm surprised no one else is experiencing them.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than the 
high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try using 
the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.

On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

 

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

 

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

Alan Lemly

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googleg

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[englishrider91]

You might also want to check that VoiceOver isn't set to know punctuation in 
the punctuation rotor setting. I always keep it on some, otherwise weird things 
start happening with VoiceOver that I don't like, such as it not saying the 
zero in the time.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Rob  wrote:
> 
> I have not yet updated from iOS 9.3.3 to 9.3.4.  On 9.3.3, my phone does 
> announce eleven o 5.  The only thing I have set that may be different from 
> your settings is that I have turned off Use Pitch Change setting.  You might 
> want to try turning this setting off to see if it makes a difference.  You 
> can find the setting in
> Settings
> General
> Accessibility
> VoiceOver.
>  
> Rob
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:17 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List
> Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>  
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to v

RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent Voiceover Changes?

[Rose Combs]

No, I am not experiencing these either, but I use Alex, I hate Samantha, she 
smokes way too much! LOL.  

 

 

Rose Combs

 <mailto:roseco...@q.com> roseco...@q.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

While I appreciate your opinion, I've always preferred the Samantha high 
quality voice and the default lower quality one doesn't change the issue I 
posted about. In addition to my original post differences, I'm also noticing 
that my status bar now pronounces the number of wifi bars as weefee bars when 
I'm sure it used to say WyFie bars. And my battery charge now says 93 battery 
power instead of 93 percent battery power as it used to.

 

Rebooting my phone or choosing the default voices doesn't change these new 
pronunciations and I'm surprised no one else is experiencing them.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than the 
high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try using 
the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.

On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

 

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

 

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

Alan Lemly

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a 

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Rajmund]

Hi, if you copy something like 3 of 3 WIFI bars, you will notice, that it 
completely ignores the dash. Rather than a dash, it will copy a space. While 
the setting, in my opinion, leaves a lot to be desired, it is still better than 
the other 2 options.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 11:05 pm
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> Hi Alan,
>  
> I think it was Rajmund who mentioned punctuation and I just confirmed that 
> that is your problem.
> I added punctuation to the Rotor since I believe that is the only place where 
> you can change it, and I confirmed that I had it set to "Some". The other two 
> choices are "Non" and "All".
> As soon as I set it to "Non" Voiceover said "we fee" instead of WiFi and it 
> didn't announce the percent sign with battery percentage which I guess would 
> make sense since the percent sign is punctuation.
> It also just announced the time as "3 1" and not 3 O 1", again it makes sense 
> since the time is displayed as 3 then a colon and the 01, without punctuation 
> Voiceover leaves out the leading zero.
> Also, if you spell the WiFi are in the status bar letter by letter you will 
> find that it is spelled with a hyphen as in "Wi-Fi". I guess if punctuation 
> is set to some it realizes that there is a hyphen and it pronounces it 
> correctly but it won't pronounce the hyphen. If you set it to all it will 
> actually say "Wi hyphen Fi".
> If you have set it to None that would probably also explain the lack of a 
> pause at the end of a sentence.
> Not sure how it would have changed from "Some" which I believe is the 
> default, to "None" although if you have Punctuation in the rotor it's 
> probably easy to accidently change it. Just try it by setting it back to 
> "Some" and I'm sure the proper world order will be restored *smile*.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>  
> Rob,
>  
> Thanks for the suggestion but turning off the use pitch change setting 
> didn't' affect my issue. In the status bar, I'm still getting my number of 
> bars pronounced as weefee instead of WyFie, the o being omitted from a time 
> announcement where the minutes are less than 10 after, and the percentage 
> being omitted from the battery charge.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rob
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:27 AM
> To: viph...@googlegroups..com
> Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>  
> I have not yet updated from iOS 9.3.3 to 9.3.4.  On 9.3.3, my phone does 
> announce eleven o 5..  The only thing I have set that may be different from 
> your settings is that I have turned off Use Pitch Change setting.  You might 
> want to try turning this setting off to see if it makes a difference.  You 
> can find the setting in 
> Settings 
> General 
> Accessibility 
> VoiceOver.
>  
> Rob
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:17 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List
> Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>  
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed witho

RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK and I guess I'm an idiot for not reading the entire thread before spending 
10 minutes testing and writing an explanation which was already given.
There you have it, "the Prince and the Idiot" a day in the life of the Viphone 
list!

Take care,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

Rajmund,

You're a prince and thanks so much. I always try to remind myself to put the 
rotor to something like headings or words so not to inadvertently change one of 
the other items it contains. I must have mistakenly set the punctuation to none 
because now that I've set it to some, I'm getting the proper pause at periods 
in my texts, wifi is being pronounced WyFie in my status bar, and percentage is 
being announced with my battery charge. When the time gets to a new hour, I'm 
sure the o will once again be stated for minutes less than 10 after.

After three years, I was hoping to avoid such newbie mistakes but one must 
always be careful of the inadvertent rotor changes and recognize better than I 
did when you change one.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

Hi, By any chance, did you turn punctuation to none? That's what I have, just 
because I can't stand any punctuation, and I hear 8:5 AM, instead of 8:05 a dot 
m. Sentences run together, etc. Flick the rotor about, and see if punctuation 
is on there. If yes, put it to some, and see what happens.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: "VIPhone Email List"  
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 3:17 pm
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list..
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and 

RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

I think it was Rajmund who mentioned punctuation and I just confirmed that that 
is your problem.
I added punctuation to the Rotor since I believe that is the only place where 
you can change it, and I confirmed that I had it set to “Some”. The other two 
choices are “Non” and “All”.
As soon as I set it to “Non” Voiceover said “we fee” instead of WiFi and it 
didn’t announce the percent sign with battery percentage which I guess would 
make sense since the percent sign is punctuation.
It also just announced the time as “3 1” and not 3 O 1”, again it makes sense 
since the time is displayed as 3 then a colon and the 01, without punctuation 
Voiceover leaves out the leading zero.
Also, if you spell the WiFi are in the status bar letter by letter you will 
find that it is spelled with a hyphen as in “Wi-Fi”. I guess if punctuation is 
set to some it realizes that there is a hyphen and it pronounces it correctly 
but it won’t pronounce the hyphen. If you set it to all it will actually say 
“Wi hyphen Fi”.
If you have set it to None that would probably also explain the lack of a pause 
at the end of a sentence.
Not sure how it would have changed from “Some” which I believe is the default, 
to “None” although if you have Punctuation in the rotor it’s probably easy to 
accidently change it. Just try it by setting it back to “Some” and I’m sure the 
proper world order will be restored *smile*.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

Rob,

Thanks for the suggestion but turning off the use pitch change setting didn’t' 
affect my issue. In the status bar, I'm still getting my number of bars 
pronounced as weefee instead of WyFie, the o being omitted from a time 
announcement where the minutes are less than 10 after, and the percentage being 
omitted from the battery charge.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

I have not yet updated from iOS 9.3.3 to 9.3.4.  On 9.3.3, my phone does 
announce eleven o 5.  The only thing I have set that may be different from your 
settings is that I have turned off Use Pitch Change setting.  You might want to 
try turning this setting off to see if it makes a difference.  You can find the 
setting in
Settings
General
Accessibility
VoiceOver.

Rob

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]<mailto:[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]> On 
Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:17 AM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Alan Lemly
--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subs

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Chris Chaffin]

Alan,
The exact same thing happened to me some months ago, and since I do not ever 
change the punctuation setting, I removed it from my rotor so I would not make 
the same mistake again.
Might be something you consider if punctuation is something you never change.

Chris


> On Aug 5, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Rajmund,
> 
> You're a prince and thanks so much. I always try to remind myself to put the 
> rotor to something like headings or words so not to inadvertently change one 
> of the other items it contains. I must have mistakenly set the punctuation to 
> none because now that I've set it to some, I'm getting the proper pause at 
> periods in my texts, wifi is being pronounced WyFie in my status bar, and 
> percentage is being announced with my battery charge. When the time gets to a 
> new hour, I'm sure the o will once again be stated for minutes less than 10 
> after.
> 
> After three years, I was hoping to avoid such newbie mistakes but one must 
> always be careful of the inadvertent rotor changes and recognize better than 
> I did when you change one.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
> 
> Hi, By any chance, did you turn punctuation to none? That's what I have, just 
> because I can't stand any punctuation, and I hear 8:5 AM, instead of 8:05 a 
> dot m. Sentences run together, etc. Flick the rotor about, and see if 
> punctuation is on there. If yes, put it to some, and see what happens.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Alan Lemly  
> To: "VIPhone Email List"  
> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 3:17 pm
> Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
>> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
>> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>> 
>> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
>> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel 
>> certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
>> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 
>> 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm 
>> curious why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else 
>> noticed it.
>> 
>> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails 
>> I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period 
>> at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared 
>> altogether. I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure 
>> that I included a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were 
>> typed without one. I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing 
>> has been added to control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else 
>> noticed this?
>> 
>> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
>> difference.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list..
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns abo

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Deidre Muccio]

All these things happened when I updated or rather did a major update some 
months ago might've been six months at this point already. It drove me crazy 
and yes it took me forever to get into settings and find exactly what I could 
change to correct the problem. Those corrections are just as what people have 
discussed here. I find those kinds of setbacks inexcusable.

Deidre


> On Aug 5, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Rajmund,
> 
> Yes, your punctuation suggestion was spot on and corrected my issue. I got a 
> bit behind on email and posted the below reply before seeing your post with 
> the fix.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
> 
> Hi, have you tried my punctuation suggestion yet? You will also hear didn t 
> instead of didn't, to give an example. Yes, that's called no punctuation, and 
> if you flick the rotor to punctuation, then go to some, it will fix the 
> issue. And I agree,, I'll pass on the default voices, give me enhanced, any 
> day.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -----
> From: Alan Lemly  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 9:08 pm
> Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> While I appreciate your opinion, I've always preferred the Samantha high 
>> quality voice and the default lower quality one doesn't change the issue I 
>> posted about. In addition to my original post differences, I'm also noticing 
>> that my status bar now pronounces the number of wifi bars as weefee bars 
>> when I'm sure it used to say WyFie bars. And my battery charge now says 93 
>> battery power instead of 93 percent battery power as it used to.
>> 
>> Rebooting my phone or choosing the default voices doesn't change these new 
>> pronunciations and I'm surprised no one else is experiencing them.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Gordon
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>> 
>> Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than 
>> the high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try 
>> using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.
>> On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
>> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
>> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>> 
>> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
>> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel 
>> certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
>> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 
>> 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm 
>> curious why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else 
>> noticed it.
>> 
>> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails 
>> I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period 
>> at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared 
>> altogether. I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure 
>> that I included a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were 
>> typed without one. I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing 
>> has been added to control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else 
>> noticed this?
>> 
>> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
>> difference.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Qui

RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Alan Lemly]

Rajmund,

Yes, your punctuation suggestion was spot on and corrected my issue. I got a 
bit behind on email and posted the below reply before seeing your post with the 
fix.

Thanks again.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

Hi, have you tried my punctuation suggestion yet? You will also hear didn t 
instead of didn't, to give an example. Yes, that's called no punctuation, and 
if you flick the rotor to punctuation, then go to some, it will fix the issue. 
And I agree,, I'll pass on the default voices, give me enhanced, any day.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 9:08 pm
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> While I appreciate your opinion, I've always preferred the Samantha high 
> quality voice and the default lower quality one doesn't change the issue I 
> posted about. In addition to my original post differences, I'm also noticing 
> that my status bar now pronounces the number of wifi bars as weefee bars when 
> I'm sure it used to say WyFie bars. And my battery charge now says 93 battery 
> power instead of 93 percent battery power as it used to.
>  
> Rebooting my phone or choosing the default voices doesn't change these new 
> pronunciations and I'm surprised no one else is experiencing them.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>  
> Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than the 
> high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try 
> using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.
> On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>  
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a m

RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Alan Lemly]

Rajmund,

You're a prince and thanks so much. I always try to remind myself to put the 
rotor to something like headings or words so not to inadvertently change one of 
the other items it contains. I must have mistakenly set the punctuation to none 
because now that I've set it to some, I'm getting the proper pause at periods 
in my texts, wifi is being pronounced WyFie in my status bar, and percentage is 
being announced with my battery charge. When the time gets to a new hour, I'm 
sure the o will once again be stated for minutes less than 10 after.

After three years, I was hoping to avoid such newbie mistakes but one must 
always be careful of the inadvertent rotor changes and recognize better than I 
did when you change one.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

Hi, By any chance, did you turn punctuation to none? That's what I have, just 
because I can't stand any punctuation, and I hear 8:5 AM, instead of 8:05 a dot 
m. Sentences run together, etc. Flick the rotor about, and see if punctuation 
is on there. If yes, put it to some, and see what happens.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: "VIPhone Email List"  
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 3:17 pm
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list..
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viph

RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Alan Lemly]

Rob,

 

Thanks for the suggestion but turning off the use pitch change setting didn’t' 
affect my issue. In the status bar, I'm still getting my number of bars 
pronounced as weefee instead of WyFie, the o being omitted from a time 
announcement where the minutes are less than 10 after, and the percentage being 
omitted from the battery charge.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rob
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

I have not yet updated from iOS 9.3.3 to 9.3.4.  On 9.3.3, my phone does 
announce eleven o 5.  The only thing I have set that may be different from your 
settings is that I have turned off Use Pitch Change setting.  You might want to 
try turning this setting off to see if it makes a difference.  You can find the 
setting in 

Settings 

General 

Accessibility 

VoiceOver.

 

Rob

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:17 AM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

 

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

 

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

Alan Lemly

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vip

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Rajmund]

Hi, have you tried my punctuation suggestion yet? You will also hear didn t 
instead of didn't, to give an example. Yes, that's called no punctuation, and 
if you flick the rotor to punctuation, then go to some, it will fix the issue. 
And I agree,, I'll pass on the default voices, give me enhanced, any day.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 9:08 pm
Subject: RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> While I appreciate your opinion, I've always preferred the Samantha high 
> quality voice and the default lower quality one doesn't change the issue I 
> posted about. In addition to my original post differences, I'm also noticing 
> that my status bar now pronounces the number of wifi bars as weefee bars when 
> I'm sure it used to say WyFie bars. And my battery charge now says 93 battery 
> power instead of 93 percent battery power as it used to.
>  
> Rebooting my phone or choosing the default voices doesn't change these new 
> pronunciations and I'm surprised no one else is experiencing them.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?
>  
> Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than the 
> high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try 
> using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.
> On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>  
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subs

RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Alan Lemly]

While I appreciate your opinion, I've always preferred the Samantha high 
quality voice and the default lower quality one doesn't change the issue I 
posted about. In addition to my original post differences, I'm also noticing 
that my status bar now pronounces the number of wifi bars as weefee bars when 
I'm sure it used to say WyFie bars. And my battery charge now says 93 battery 
power instead of 93 percent battery power as it used to.

 

Rebooting my phone or choosing the default voices doesn't change these new 
pronunciations and I'm surprised no one else is experiencing them.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than the 
high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try using 
the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.

On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

 

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

 

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

Alan Lemly

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Evan Reese]

Yes, it does seem to be true. I was visiting friends and we compared the 
high quality and default Samantha voices, and the default did seem a little 
better to us. Strange but that's what it sounded like to us.

Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Jed Barton

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

i always thought Samantha was the better 1, that is the lower quality voice.


On 8/5/2016 10:55 AM, 'Simon w' via VIPhone wrote:

Which one is the lower quality? is it called default?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Gordon mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>> wrote:


Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better
than the high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way
around. Try using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are
still there.
On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:


I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes
that I became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my
iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while
still running iOS 9.3.3.



The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel
certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero
before announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m.,
VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no
big deal but I'm curious why they would change such a thing and I'm
wondering if anyone else noticed it.



The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and
emails I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation
such as a period at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly
decreased or disappeared altogether. I've had to double check on more
than one occasion to ensure that I included a period because VO read
my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've reviewed my
VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?



I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes
a difference.



Thanks in advance for your comments.



Alan Lemly

--
The following information is important for all members of the V
iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list 
itself.


Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this m

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Rajmund]

Hi, Yes. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> Which one is the lower quality? is it called default?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> > 
> > Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than 
> > the high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. 
> > Try using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.
> >> On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> >> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that 
> >> I became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> >> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
> >>  
> >> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> >> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel 
> >> certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero 
> >> before announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO 
> >> would say 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal 
> >> but I'm curious why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if 
> >> anyone else noticed it.
> >>  
> >> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails 
> >> I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a 
> >> period at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or 
> >> disappeared altogether. I've had to double check on more than one occasion 
> >> to ensure that I included a period because VO read my text as if the   
> >>   sentences were typed without one. I've reviewed my VoiceOver 
> >> settings to make sure nothing has been added to control this and could not 
> >> find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
> >>  
> >> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> >> difference.
> >>  
> >> Thanks in advance for your comments.
> >>  
> >> Alan Lemly
> >> -- 
> >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
> >> list.
> >>  
> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
> >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
> >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> >>  
> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> >> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >>  
> >> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> >> --- 
> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> >> "VIPhone" group.
> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> > 
> > -- 
> > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
> >  
> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
> > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> >  
> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >  
> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> > --- 
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> > "VIPhone" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list..

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Rajmund]

Hi, By any chance, did you turn punctuation to none? That's what I have, just 
because I can't stand any punctuation, and I hear 8:5 AM, instead of 8:05 a dot 
m. Sentences run together, etc. Flick the rotor about, and see if punctuation 
is on there. If yes, put it to some, and see what happens.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: "VIPhone Email List"  
Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 3:17 pm
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

>
>
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list..
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Rob]

I have not yet updated from iOS 9.3.3 to 9.3.4.  On 9.3.3, my phone does 
announce eleven o 5.  The only thing I have set that may be different from your 
settings is that I have turned off Use Pitch Change setting.  You might want to 
try turning this setting off to see if it makes a difference.  You can find the 
setting in 

Settings 

General 

Accessibility 

VoiceOver.

 

Rob

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:17 AM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

 

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

 

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

 

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

Alan Lemly

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Mary Otten]

I have not noticed these things, but I have not installed the recently released 
9.34. So if there are new with 9.34, which you didn't seem to think they are, 
that could be why.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>  
> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
> that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 
> oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious 
> why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed 
> it.
>  
> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
> composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
> end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
> I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included 
> a period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. 
> I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to 
> control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>  
> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
> difference.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

RE: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

It just so happened that it was a few minutes before 8 just now on Friday 
morning when I read your message. I finished the messages and then checked the 
time at which point it was 8:07 and my enhanced Samantha voice did announce the 
time after I pressed the home button to wake up the phone as 8 O 7.
Not sure why she doesn’t for you, I also find I can still hear if a sentence is 
done and ended with a period.
Have you rebooted your phone after doing the update? You might want to give 
that a try.
I am using iOS 10 public beta, but I just checked on my wife’s iPhone which is 
running the latest iOS 9.3 update and it also says the time correctly as 8 O 7.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 7:17 AM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 
last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.

The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel certain 
that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before announcing 
the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. 
Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they 
would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.

The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails I've 
composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period at the 
end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared altogether. 
I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure that I included a 
period because VO read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control 
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?

I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
difference.

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Alan Lemly
--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to 
viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to 
viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Jed Barton]

i always thought Samantha was the better 1, that is the lower quality voice.


On 8/5/2016 10:55 AM, 'Simon w' via VIPhone wrote:

Which one is the lower quality? is it called default?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Gordon mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>> wrote:


Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better
than the high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way
around. Try using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are
still there.
On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:


I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes
that I became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my
iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while
still running iOS 9.3.3.



The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel
certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero
before announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m.,
VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no
big deal but I'm curious why they would change such a thing and I'm
wondering if anyone else noticed it.



The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and
emails I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation
such as a period at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly
decreased or disappeared altogether. I've had to double check on more
than one occasion to ensure that I included a period because VO read
my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've reviewed my
VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added to control
this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?



I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes
a difference.



Thanks in advance for your comments.



Alan Lemly

--
The following information is important for all members of the V
iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com
.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com
.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn
- you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com
.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members o

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Gordon]

Yes.


On 8/5/2016 9:55 AM, 'Simon w' via VIPhone wrote:

Which one is the lower quality? is it called default?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Gordon > wrote:


Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better 
than the high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way 
around. Try using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are 
still there.

On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:


I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes 
that I became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my 
iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while 
still running iOS 9.3.3.


The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes 
when announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. 
I feel certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o 
for zero before announcing the minute. For example if the time were 
8:05 a.m., VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like 
I said, no big deal but I'm curious why they would change such a 
thing and I'm wondering if anyone else noticed it.


The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and 
emails I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation 
such as a period at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly 
decreased or disappeared altogether. I've had to double check on 
more than one occasion to ensure that I included a period because VO 
read my text as if the sentences were typed without one. I've 
reviewed my VoiceOver settings to make sure nothing has been added 
to control this and could not find anything. Has anyone else noticed 
this?


I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this 
makes a difference.


Thanks in advance for your comments.

Alan Lemly

--
The following information is important for all members of the V 
iPhone list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this 
list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please 
contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the 
list itself.


Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 
send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com 
.

Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the V 
iPhone list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 



The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 
send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com 
.

Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com 
.

Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

['Simon w' via VIPhone]

Which one is the lower quality? is it called default?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better than the 
> high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way around. Try 
> using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are still there.
>> On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes that I 
>> became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 
>> 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still running iOS 9.3.3.
>>  
>> The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
>> announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel 
>> certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero before 
>> announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., VO would say 
>> 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no big deal but I'm 
>> curious why they would change such a thing and I'm wondering if anyone else 
>> noticed it.
>>  
>> The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and emails 
>> I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such as a period 
>> at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased or disappeared 
>> altogether. I've had to double check on more than one occasion to ensure 
>> that I included a period because VO read my text as if the 
>> sentences were typed without one. I've reviewed my VoiceOver settings to 
>> make sure nothing has been added to control this and could not find 
>> anything. Has anyone else noticed this?
>>  
>> I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes a 
>> difference.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Anyone Else Noticed Recent VoiceOver Changes?

[Gordon]

Actually in my opinion, the Samantha low quality voice sounds better 
than the high quality voice. It sound like it should be the other way 
around. Try using the lower quality voice and see if your issues are 
still there.

On 8/5/2016 9:16 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:


I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a couple of VoiceOver changes 
that I became aware of in the past couple of days. I updated my iPhone 
6 to iOS 9.3.4 last night but I noticed these changes while still 
running iOS 9.3.3.


The first change is minor and concerns how VO speaks the minutes when 
announcing the time when they are less than 10 after the hour. I feel 
certain that before a couple of days ago, VO would say the o for zero 
before announcing the minute. For example if the time were 8:05 a.m., 
VO would say 8 oh 5 a.m. Now, VO is saying 8 5 a.m. Like I said, no 
big deal but I'm curious why they would change such a thing and I'm 
wondering if anyone else noticed it.


The other issue is more annoying. When VO is reading my texts and 
emails I've composed back to me, the pause indicating punctuation such 
as a period at the end of a sentence seems to have greatly decreased 
or disappeared altogether. I've had to double check on more than one 
occasion to ensure that I included a period because VO read my text as 
if the sentences were typed without one. I've reviewed my VoiceOver 
settings to make sure nothing has been added to control this and could 
not find anything. Has anyone else noticed this?


I'm using the Samantha high quality voice for VoiceOver if this makes 
a difference.


Thanks in advance for your comments.

Alan Lemly

--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups "VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com 
.

Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.

To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.