Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-19 Thread Ricardo Walker
Obviously there are many reasons like, being on an airplane. lol.

But that's not what I was talking about.  I was referring to going into 
airplane mode to disable location services when you can just disable location 
services.  IDK, I guess its like turning off your television every time you 
need to lower the volume instead of pressing the Mute button.

But, there are many roads to the same destination. :)

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Apr 18, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

 There are many reasons why someone would want air plane mode on. I sometimes 
 do it when I want to listen to an audio book or some music without push 
 notification interruptions and to make things last longer. Yes, I could turn 
 off push, data, bluetooth, wi-fi, location, etc. However that is the whole 
 point of air plane mode. It makes my iPhone basically act like an iPod.
 
 Cheers.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Birthdays are good for you - the more you have the longer you live! ~ 
 Anonymous
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 On 4/18/2012 11:26 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 couldn't you just close the apps that uses locations?  Or even better, just 
 turn location services off?  To each there own of course but, turning 
 airplane mode on sounds so final to me.  Like throwing the baby out with the 
 bath water kinda thing.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Sandy Tomkinssandratomk...@googlemail.com  
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
I habitually turn Airplane mode on. I have many Apps that use Location 
 based services and so my battery is greatly affected if I leave both the 
 phone and Wifi running. I often fall asleep with a book and iLike2Read 
 whispering in my ear through the wired earphones. If I leave, by accident, 
 Airplane mode on, and i have, as I generally do, Autolock off, I will find 
 my battery dead by morning, but with flight mode on, I may well have 60/70 
 percent left. Also, if I am travelling and want to read my mail, I only 
 turn the wireless connectivity on from time to time to keep me up to date 
 and check for missed calls etc. Now, whether this is due to Wifi, phone or 
 Bluetooth, I don't know, but something that does occur to me is:
 1. Why don't people, such as myself who like to turn this functionality on 
 and off on a regular basis, just leave settings open in the App chooser? It 
 is the work of a seccond to go there and toggle Airplane mode on/off as it 
 is first in the list of settings?
 2. Rather than an extra App with the need to find it, go into it and so on, 
 how about Apple moving the Bluetooth settings button to just below the 
 Airplane mode button in settings? Thus obviating the need to go one layer 
 further in via General etc`?
 
I only have the iPhone 4, but wonder, can't you tell Siri to turn these 
 various functions on and off? So, would such an app as this new Bluetooth 
 one be of any use at all to 4s users?
 
Finally, what might really be a game changer would be if we could 
 activate the various items on the status bar, so when you touch Bluetoohth, 
 say, you could choose to activate/deactivate it from there, same with 
 Flight mode and phone. Just a thought.
 
Sandy.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 18 Apr 2012, at 09:43, Sure Shot 69suresho...@btinternet.com  wrote:
 
 I never turn my bluetooth off either, so all I have to do is, turn on my 
 headset or keyboard, and I'm good to go.
 
 Jim.
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walkerrwalker...@gmail.com
 To:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:14 AM
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 
 Lol,
 
 No worries.  I will take the bullet for both of us if any are coming by 
 that comment/opinion.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:00 AM, CDcd5...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 I leave my Bluetooth on all of the time but didn't want to mention that
 because I wasn't sure I should but I always have.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 You know, I don't mean to be a kill joy about this app but, why don't 
 people
 leave bluetooth on?  I mean, if you toggle it on/off so much that this 
 would
 be valuable to you, why not just leave BT on.  The battery consumption 
 for
 this radio is so low when not in use, you won't even notice a battery hit
 unless you are really keeping track.  Really.  It my lower your usage 
 time
 by all of 30 minutes per charging cycle.
 
 JMO.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't think that's what Raul is saying though. He's using air plane
mode, assuming I'm reading his post correctly, to shut off all radios
and network services., not just location services. I'm not a big fan of
analogies, I find they tend to be skewed towards the point the person is
making, but I think a closer analogy would be going to my entertainment
center and turning off the TV, the DVR, the DVD player, the receiver,
... or accomplishing the same thing by just turning off the power strip
that powers all of these components.

On 19/04/12 03:41, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Obviously there are many reasons like, being on an airplane. lol.
 
 But that's not what I was talking about.  I was referring to going into 
 airplane mode to disable location services when you can just disable location 
 services.  IDK, I guess its like turning off your television every time you 
 need to lower the volume instead of pressing the Mute button.
 
 But, there are many roads to the same destination. :)
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 
 There are many reasons why someone would want air plane mode on. I sometimes 
 do it when I want to listen to an audio book or some music without push 
 notification interruptions and to make things last longer. Yes, I could turn 
 off push, data, bluetooth, wi-fi, location, etc. However that is the whole 
 point of air plane mode. It makes my iPhone basically act like an iPod.

 Cheers.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Birthdays are good for you - the more you have the longer you live! ~ 
 Anonymous
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74

 On 4/18/2012 11:26 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,

 couldn't you just close the apps that uses locations?  Or even better, just 
 turn location services off?  To each there own of course but, turning 
 airplane mode on sounds so final to me.  Like throwing the baby out with 
 the bath water kinda thing.

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

 On Apr 18, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Sandy Tomkinssandratomk...@googlemail.com  
 wrote:

 Hi,

I habitually turn Airplane mode on. I have many Apps that use Location 
 based services and so my battery is greatly affected if I leave both the 
 phone and Wifi running. I often fall asleep with a book and iLike2Read 
 whispering in my ear through the wired earphones. If I leave, by accident, 
 Airplane mode on, and i have, as I generally do, Autolock off, I will find 
 my battery dead by morning, but with flight mode on, I may well have 60/70 
 percent left. Also, if I am travelling and want to read my mail, I only 
 turn the wireless connectivity on from time to time to keep me up to date 
 and check for missed calls etc. Now, whether this is due to Wifi, phone or 
 Bluetooth, I don't know, but something that does occur to me is:
 1. Why don't people, such as myself who like to turn this functionality on 
 and off on a regular basis, just leave settings open in the App chooser? 
 It is the work of a seccond to go there and toggle Airplane mode on/off as 
 it is first in the list of settings?
 2. Rather than an extra App with the need to find it, go into it and so 
 on, how about Apple moving the Bluetooth settings button to just below the 
 Airplane mode button in settings? Thus obviating the need to go one layer 
 further in via General etc`?

I only have the iPhone 4, but wonder, can't you tell Siri to turn these 
 various functions on and off? So, would such an app as this new Bluetooth 
 one be of any use at all to 4s users?

Finally, what might really be a game changer would be if we could 
 activate the various items on the status bar, so when you touch 
 Bluetoohth, say, you could choose to activate/deactivate it from there, 
 same with Flight mode and phone. Just a thought.

Sandy.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 18 Apr 2012, at 09:43, Sure Shot 69suresho...@btinternet.com  wrote:

 I never turn my bluetooth off either, so all I have to do is, turn on my 
 headset or keyboard, and I'm good to go.

 Jim.
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walkerrwalker...@gmail.com
 To:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:14 AM
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app


 Lol,

 No worries.  I will take the bullet for both of us if any are coming by 
 that comment/opinion.

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

 On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:00 AM, CDcd5...@gmail.com  wrote:

 I leave my Bluetooth on all of the time but didn't want to mention that
 because I wasn't sure I should but I always have.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-19 Thread Ricardo Walker
/deactivate it from there, 
 same with Flight mode and phone. Just a thought.
 
   Sandy.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 18 Apr 2012, at 09:43, Sure Shot 69suresho...@btinternet.com  
 wrote:
 
 I never turn my bluetooth off either, so all I have to do is, turn on my 
 headset or keyboard, and I'm good to go.
 
 Jim.
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walkerrwalker...@gmail.com
 To:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:14 AM
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 
 Lol,
 
 No worries.  I will take the bullet for both of us if any are coming by 
 that comment/opinion.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:00 AM, CDcd5...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 I leave my Bluetooth on all of the time but didn't want to mention that
 because I wasn't sure I should but I always have.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 You know, I don't mean to be a kill joy about this app but, why don't 
 people
 leave bluetooth on?  I mean, if you toggle it on/off so much that this 
 would
 be valuable to you, why not just leave BT on.  The battery consumption 
 for
 this radio is so low when not in use, you won't even notice a battery 
 hit
 unless you are really keeping track.  Really.  It my lower your usage 
 time
 by all of 30 minutes per charging cycle.
 
 JMO.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegosr...@raulgallegos.com  
 wrote:
 
 Hello Beverly, have you checked out the app description?
 
 The link is
 http://itunes.apple.com/app/bluetooth-onoff./id514869898?mt=8
 
 The description reads:
 Did it take too many steps just to turn on/off bluetooth? You can now 
 turn
 on/off just by launching this app. Just in a second, you can activate 
 or
 deactivate bluetooth.
 In addtion, you can chat with other users nearby.
 * Tip : Turn on the app's setting if you want to turn on/off upon 
 launch.
 iPhone / iPad -  Settings -  scroll down -  OnOff -  turn on 
 switch -
 kill the app and relaunch
 
 
 -
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 On 4/17/2012 4:44 PM, beverly wrote:
 Will someone explain why or how this app could be used?
 
 - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler
 kriegle...@gmail.com
 To:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:26 PM
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 
 Hi Paula,
 
 Thanks for this. Works as advertised. I thought this feature was to
 be implemented into Siri, but since that hasn't happened yet, I
 grabbed this app.
 
 Les
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Paula Mack wrote:
 
 Check out the Bluetooth on off application in the IOS App Store.
 It's awesome. Get it before Apple removes it.
 
 Paula Mack
 On FaceBook: pm3456
 On Twitter: pm3456
 On Skype: psm3456
 
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Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-19 Thread James Mannion
I think the app could definitely be handy although I may or may not
bother with it. I do not find it too difficult to go into settings
general bluetooth and turn it off. Over the years bluetooth hacks
including with amplified antennas have certainly been exploited and
personally I figure if not in use there is no reason to leave that
security hole open, no matter how small the risk. I think the risk is
larger than some make it out to be as bluetooth is so common on
devices that it is an atractive method for hackers to use where
possible. The one that most concerns me that I know of right now
though has nothing to do with bluetooth and comparitively I have no
concern about bluetooth. The concern is the sms vulnerability. I saw
it mentioned on applevis that someone actually was hit by this one on
IOS 5.1. That shoots down any theory it is not an active issue right
now, doesn't it? Surprisingly there is not much current on the web
about it though that I could find on a google search. Most of the
articles were back in 2007 and 2009. My understanding is that it is
the same issue though exactly?? The one where all they need is the
phone number and they send a message crafted with control characters
and they have compromised your phone without you doing anything and
nothing being required of you for their success. Is there something
that renders this one not to be of very high concern right now?

On 4/19/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 True, but that doesn't mean there can't be bugs in the bluetooth stack
 that malware could take advantage of. There have been security issues
 with bluetooth in general and on the iPhone in particular. of course,
 you could also get a worm on your phone through some other means that
 could then open your phone up for other attacks via bluetooth. I posted
 a few links to this list a few days ago on security concerns with
 bluetooth in general and some of the security vulnerabilities that were
 found in older versions of the iPhone.

 On 19/04/12 16:29, Steve Robertson wrote:
 Is there a security issue with leaving bluetooth on? I presume the
 answer is no as I would think one would have to approve any kind of
 deice connecting.

 Steve

 Original message:
 You know, I don't mean to be a kill joy about this app but, why don't
 people leave bluetooth on?  I mean, if you toggle it on/off so much
 that this would be valuable to you, why not just leave BT on.  The
 battery consumption for this radio is so low when not in use, you
 won't even notice a battery hit unless you are really keeping track.
 Really. It my lower your usage time by all of 30 minutes per charging
 cycle.

 JMO.

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

 On Apr 17, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
 wrote:

 Hello Beverly, have you checked out the app description?

 The link is
 http://itunes.apple.com/app/bluetooth-onoff./id514869898?mt=8

 The description reads:
 Did it take too many steps just to turn on/off bluetooth? You can now
 turn on/off just by launching this app. Just in a second, you can
 activate or deactivate bluetooth.
 In addtion, you can chat with other users nearby.
 * Tip : Turn on the app's setting if you want to turn on/off upon
 launch.
 iPhone / iPad - Settings - scroll down - OnOff - turn on
 switch - kill the app and relaunch


 -
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74

 On 4/17/2012 4:44 PM, beverly wrote:
 Will someone explain why or how this app could be used?

 - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler
 kriegle...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:26 PM
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app


 Hi Paula,

 Thanks for this. Works as advertised. I thought this feature was to be
 implemented into Siri, but since that hasn't happened yet, I grabbed
 this app.

 Les
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Paula Mack wrote:

 Check out the Bluetooth on off application in the IOS App Store. It's
 awesome. Get it before Apple removes it.

 Paula Mack
 On FaceBook: pm3456
 On Twitter: pm3456
 On Skype: psm3456

 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-18 Thread Esther
Hi Ricardo,

Funny you should mention this, because yesterday, in an off-list exchange, I 
was asked whether there was any way to make the on-screen keyboard re-appear 
without having to press the eject key of a paired Apple Wireless Keyboard 
(for those occasions when you pick up the iPhone and just want quick touch 
screen access without having to find the keyboard you were using some time 
ago).   I said that it was worth suggesting to Apple that they add a rotor 
setting where you could make the on-screen keyboard reappear  even when paired 
to an external keyboard, but in the meantime, the only way I knew to get the 
virtual keyboard to come up again without pressing that show keyboard/hide 
keyboard key in the top right corner -- also known as the eject key on Mac 
keyboards -- was by turning Bluetooth off, so the external keyboard no longer 
controlled this setting.  

So I can think of at least one person who would find it convenient to 
occasionally use this app, regardless of the power savings issue.

Cheers,

Esther 

On Apr 17, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I really don't think the savings are much better if better at all than what I 
 stated.  You might loose an hour tops.  And I'm being generous.  Almost no 
 power is being used when a BT device isn't actually paired and in use with 
 your iPhone.  I would hope the user has the common sense if their battery is 
 running down, and they are not going to be in a position to charge, that they 
 would turn off bluetooth, and not use BT devices anyway which way. *shrug*.  
 
 As far as security goes, I guess.  It's like a risk reward thing.  The 
 chances of your phone being compromised via bluetooth is so low, I couldn't 
 even begin to guess the chances of it actually happening.  Just the huge 
 number of devices using bluetooth makes your chances good.  Not to mention, 
 the relatively low number of people that would know how to exploit you 
 leaving bluetooth on.
 
 But that being said, if the person goes for long stretches of time without 
 using bluetooth, this app would be kind of pointless, no?  I would think this 
 was for those who toggled BT on/off quite frequently.
 
 But either which way, its up to the individual what they decide to do with 
 their phone.
 
 JMO. 
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I disagree, in addition to battery savings, which I think are greater
 than what's indicated below, and the fact that if you're between power
 sources that extra 30 minutes or so could be important, there's also the
 security concerns. I know that bluetooth is secure but why leave
 yourself open if you're not going to be using your bluetooth for an
 extended period of time. IMHO, whether you want your bluetooth running
 or not is a personal preference and no one is wrong for leaving it on or
 wanting a quick way to turn it off.
 
 On 17/04/12 23:15, Anthony Vece wrote:
 Their is no reason to turn it off.
 
 
 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:00 AM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I leave my Bluetooth on all of the time but didn't want to mention that
 because I wasn't sure I should but I always have.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 You know, I don't mean to be a kill joy about this app but, why don't 
 people
 leave bluetooth on?  I mean, if you toggle it on/off so much that this 
 would
 be valuable to you, why not just leave BT on.  The battery consumption for
 this radio is so low when not in use, you won't even notice a battery hit
 unless you are really keeping track.  Really.  It my lower your usage time
 by all of 30 minutes per charging cycle.
 
 JMO.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Beverly, have you checked out the app description?
 
 The link is
 http://itunes.apple.com/app/bluetooth-onoff./id514869898?mt=8
 
 The description reads:
 Did it take too many steps just to turn on/off bluetooth? You can now turn
 on/off just by launching this app. Just in a second, you can activate or
 deactivate bluetooth.
 In addtion, you can chat with other users nearby.
 * Tip : Turn on the app's setting if you want to turn on/off upon launch.
 iPhone / iPad - Settings - scroll down - OnOff - turn on switch -
 kill the app and relaunch
 
 
 -
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 On 4/17/2012 4:44 PM, beverly wrote:
 Will someone explain why or how this app

Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, contracting any virus, worm or malware is a reasonably low risk
issue on any platform, however, with iPhones becoming more and more
popular then they become a more and more attractive target for black hats.

I know these articles are a bit long in the tooth, but here's a general
article on bluetooth vulnerabilities:
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/tutorial/Learning-guide-The-five-steps-of-baseline-Bluetooth-security

and here's an article talking about security vulnerabilities in the
iPhone, including one in their bluetooth implementation:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/137847/iphones_bluetooth_bug_under_hackers_microscope.html

Even though I tend to turn off my bluetooth when not in use for extended
periods of time, I can still see the benefits of this application
because when I do want to turn it on, I want to turn it on right away,
and if I can avoid going a few levels deep into the menus to do it then
I would appreciate that. Ditto for the times I want to turn it off.
Granted, since I don't do it all of the time, it isn't a big deal for
me, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't appreciate the app.

On 18/04/12 00:55, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I really don't think the savings are much better if better at all than what I 
 stated.  You might loose an hour tops.  And I'm being generous.  Almost no 
 power is being used when a BT device isn't actually paired and in use with 
 your iPhone.  I would hope the user has the common sense if their battery is 
 running down, and they are not going to be in a position to charge, that they 
 would turn off bluetooth, and not use BT devices anyway which way. *shrug*.  
 
 As far as security goes, I guess.  It's like a risk reward thing.  The 
 chances of your phone being compromised via bluetooth is so low, I couldn't 
 even begin to guess the chances of it actually happening.  Just the huge 
 number of devices using bluetooth makes your chances good.  Not to mention, 
 the relatively low number of people that would know how to exploit you 
 leaving bluetooth on.
 
 But that being said, if the person goes for long stretches of time without 
 using bluetooth, this app would be kind of pointless, no?  I would think this 
 was for those who toggled BT on/off quite frequently.
 
 But either which way, its up to the individual what they decide to do with 
 their phone.
 
 JMO. 
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I disagree, in addition to battery savings, which I think are greater
 than what's indicated below, and the fact that if you're between power
 sources that extra 30 minutes or so could be important, there's also the
 security concerns. I know that bluetooth is secure but why leave
 yourself open if you're not going to be using your bluetooth for an
 extended period of time. IMHO, whether you want your bluetooth running
 or not is a personal preference and no one is wrong for leaving it on or
 wanting a quick way to turn it off.

 On 17/04/12 23:15, Anthony Vece wrote:
 Their is no reason to turn it off.


 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:00 AM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:

 I leave my Bluetooth on all of the time but didn't want to mention that
 because I wasn't sure I should but I always have.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app

 You know, I don't mean to be a kill joy about this app but, why don't 
 people
 leave bluetooth on?  I mean, if you toggle it on/off so much that this 
 would
 be valuable to you, why not just leave BT on.  The battery consumption for
 this radio is so low when not in use, you won't even notice a battery hit
 unless you are really keeping track.  Really.  It my lower your usage time
 by all of 30 minutes per charging cycle.

 JMO.

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

 On Apr 17, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
 wrote:

 Hello Beverly, have you checked out the app description?

 The link is
 http://itunes.apple.com/app/bluetooth-onoff./id514869898?mt=8

 The description reads:
 Did it take too many steps just to turn on/off bluetooth? You can now turn
 on/off just by launching this app. Just in a second, you can activate or
 deactivate bluetooth.
 In addtion, you can chat with other users nearby.
 * Tip : Turn on the app's setting if you want to turn on/off upon launch.
 iPhone / iPad - Settings - scroll down - OnOff - turn on switch -
 kill the app and relaunch


 -
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74

 On 4/17/2012 4:44 PM, beverly

Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Christopher, this is well said. I think what we all need to remember is 
that there are so many opinions and feelings on how the iPhone or iPod 
or iPad can be used, that some apps may seem pointless to some, while 
invaluable to others. While I won't be getting this app, it doesn't mean 
that it's a waste or that I feel people shouldn't turn on and off 
Bluetooth regardless for the reason. The bottom line is, there are more 
than one way of doing things and if people want to toggle settings on 
and off, regardless of their reason, then an app like this is very 
useful for them.


Thanks.


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When I eventually met Mr Right I had no idea that his first name was 
Always. - Rita Rudner

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On 4/18/2012 2:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

Well, contracting any virus, worm or malware is a reasonably low risk
issue on any platform, however, with iPhones becoming more and more
popular then they become a more and more attractive target for black hats.

I know these articles are a bit long in the tooth, but here's a general
article on bluetooth vulnerabilities:
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/tutorial/Learning-guide-The-five-steps-of-baseline-Bluetooth-security

and here's an article talking about security vulnerabilities in the
iPhone, including one in their bluetooth implementation:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/137847/iphones_bluetooth_bug_under_hackers_microscope.html

Even though I tend to turn off my bluetooth when not in use for extended
periods of time, I can still see the benefits of this application
because when I do want to turn it on, I want to turn it on right away,
and if I can avoid going a few levels deep into the menus to do it then
I would appreciate that. Ditto for the times I want to turn it off.
Granted, since I don't do it all of the time, it isn't a big deal for
me, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't appreciate the app.


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Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-18 Thread Peter Logan
I agree with both sides of this ... but here is why I shut mine off ... I got 
kids .. and they like to sneak into my office .. and start poundig on my BT 
keyboard .. next thing I know my phone is doing all sorts of stuff ...

Also, several times I've left my BT headphones on .. and didn't relize it ... 
and was wondering what was going on with my phone and why it wouldn't talk to 
me ...  


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:07 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, if it makes you feel more comfortable to believe that the battery 
 savings is greater, more power to you. I suspect that actual real-world and 
 benchmark testing would prove you wrong.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 18/04/2012, at 16:36, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I disagree, in addition to battery savings, which I think are greater
 than what's indicated below, and the fact that if you're between power
 sources that extra 30 minutes or so could be important, there's also the
 security concerns. I know that bluetooth is secure but why leave
 yourself open if you're not going to be using your bluetooth for an
 extended period of time. IMHO, whether you want your bluetooth running
 or not is a personal preference and no one is wrong for leaving it on or
 wanting a quick way to turn it off.
 
 On 17/04/12 23:15, Anthony Vece wrote:
 Their is no reason to turn it off.
 
 
 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:00 AM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I leave my Bluetooth on all of the time but didn't want to mention that
 because I wasn't sure I should but I always have.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 You know, I don't mean to be a kill joy about this app but, why don't 
 people
 leave bluetooth on?  I mean, if you toggle it on/off so much that this 
 would
 be valuable to you, why not just leave BT on.  The battery consumption for
 this radio is so low when not in use, you won't even notice a battery hit
 unless you are really keeping track.  Really.  It my lower your usage time
 by all of 30 minutes per charging cycle.
 
 JMO.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Beverly, have you checked out the app description?
 
 The link is
 http://itunes.apple.com/app/bluetooth-onoff./id514869898?mt=8
 
 The description reads:
 Did it take too many steps just to turn on/off bluetooth? You can now turn
 on/off just by launching this app. Just in a second, you can activate or
 deactivate bluetooth.
 In addtion, you can chat with other users nearby.
 * Tip : Turn on the app's setting if you want to turn on/off upon launch.
 iPhone / iPad - Settings - scroll down - OnOff - turn on switch -
 kill the app and relaunch
 
 
 -
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 On 4/17/2012 4:44 PM, beverly wrote:
 Will someone explain why or how this app could be used?
 
 - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler
 kriegle...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:26 PM
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 
 Hi Paula,
 
 Thanks for this. Works as advertised. I thought this feature was to
 be implemented into Siri, but since that hasn't happened yet, I
 grabbed this app.
 
 Les
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Paula Mack wrote:
 
 Check out the Bluetooth on off application in the IOS App Store.
 It's awesome. Get it before Apple removes it.
 
 Paula Mack
 On FaceBook: pm3456
 On Twitter: pm3456
 On Skype: psm3456
 
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Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-18 Thread Brent Harding
I bet if BT headphones work like something similar to the Plantronics 
wireless USB headsets, if the battery dies, you leave yourself with no 
speech. I know this happens on the PC because the audio dongle keeps the 
sound driver valid, so there's nothing to receive the audio, and they die 
with no warning too.


- Original Message - 
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app


I agree with both sides of this ... but here is why I shut mine off ... I 
got kids .. and they like to sneak into my office .. and start poundig on 
my BT keyboard .. next thing I know my phone is doing all sorts of stuff 
...


Also, several times I've left my BT headphones on .. and didn't relize it 
... and was wondering what was going on with my phone and why it wouldn't 
talk to me ...



Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:07 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Yes, if it makes you feel more comfortable to believe that the battery 
savings is greater, more power to you. I suspect that actual real-world 
and benchmark testing would prove you wrong.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 18/04/2012, at 16:36, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:


I disagree, in addition to battery savings, which I think are greater
than what's indicated below, and the fact that if you're between power
sources that extra 30 minutes or so could be important, there's also the
security concerns. I know that bluetooth is secure but why leave
yourself open if you're not going to be using your bluetooth for an
extended period of time. IMHO, whether you want your bluetooth running
or not is a personal preference and no one is wrong for leaving it on or
wanting a quick way to turn it off.

On 17/04/12 23:15, Anthony Vece wrote:

Their is no reason to turn it off.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:00 AM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:

I leave my Bluetooth on all of the time but didn't want to mention 
that

because I wasn't sure I should but I always have.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app

You know, I don't mean to be a kill joy about this app but, why don't 
people
leave bluetooth on?  I mean, if you toggle it on/off so much that this 
would
be valuable to you, why not just leave BT on.  The battery consumption 
for
this radio is so low when not in use, you won't even notice a battery 
hit
unless you are really keeping track.  Really.  It my lower your usage 
time

by all of 30 minutes per charging cycle.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Apr 17, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
wrote:



Hello Beverly, have you checked out the app description?

The link is
http://itunes.apple.com/app/bluetooth-onoff./id514869898?mt=8

The description reads:
Did it take too many steps just to turn on/off bluetooth? You can now 
turn
on/off just by launching this app. Just in a second, you can activate 
or

deactivate bluetooth.

In addtion, you can chat with other users nearby.
* Tip : Turn on the app's setting if you want to turn on/off upon 
launch.
iPhone / iPad - Settings - scroll down - OnOff - turn on 
switch -

kill the app and relaunch



-
Raul A. Gallegos
Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74

On 4/17/2012 4:44 PM, beverly wrote:

Will someone explain why or how this app could be used?

- Original Message - From: Les Kriegler
kriegle...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app



Hi Paula,

Thanks for this. Works as advertised. I thought this feature was to
be implemented into Siri, but since that hasn't happened yet, I
grabbed this app.

Les
On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Paula Mack wrote:


Check out the Bluetooth on off application in the IOS App Store.
It's awesome. Get it before Apple removes it.

Paula Mack
On FaceBook: pm3456
On Twitter: pm3456
On Skype: psm3456

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Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-18 Thread David Chittenden
Hello,

Nope, not with my Motorola anyway. When my iPhone loses bluetooth signal from 
the earpiece, it automatically reverts to the iPhone speaker.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 19/04/2012, at 1:47, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

 I bet if BT headphones work like something similar to the Plantronics 
 wireless USB headsets, if the battery dies, you leave yourself with no 
 speech. I know this happens on the PC because the audio dongle keeps the 
 sound driver valid, so there's nothing to receive the audio, and they die 
 with no warning too.
 
 - Original Message - From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:01 AM
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 
 I agree with both sides of this ... but here is why I shut mine off ... I 
 got kids .. and they like to sneak into my office .. and start poundig on my 
 BT keyboard .. next thing I know my phone is doing all sorts of stuff ...
 
 Also, several times I've left my BT headphones on .. and didn't relize it 
 ... and was wondering what was going on with my phone and why it wouldn't 
 talk to me ...
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:07 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, if it makes you feel more comfortable to believe that the battery 
 savings is greater, more power to you. I suspect that actual real-world and 
 benchmark testing would prove you wrong.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 18/04/2012, at 16:36, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I disagree, in addition to battery savings, which I think are greater
 than what's indicated below, and the fact that if you're between power
 sources that extra 30 minutes or so could be important, there's also the
 security concerns. I know that bluetooth is secure but why leave
 yourself open if you're not going to be using your bluetooth for an
 extended period of time. IMHO, whether you want your bluetooth running
 or not is a personal preference and no one is wrong for leaving it on or
 wanting a quick way to turn it off.
 
 On 17/04/12 23:15, Anthony Vece wrote:
 Their is no reason to turn it off.
 
 
 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:00 AM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I leave my Bluetooth on all of the time but didn't want to mention that
 because I wasn't sure I should but I always have.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 You know, I don't mean to be a kill joy about this app but, why don't 
 people
 leave bluetooth on?  I mean, if you toggle it on/off so much that this 
 would
 be valuable to you, why not just leave BT on.  The battery consumption 
 for
 this radio is so low when not in use, you won't even notice a battery hit
 unless you are really keeping track.  Really.  It my lower your usage 
 time
 by all of 30 minutes per charging cycle.
 
 JMO.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Beverly, have you checked out the app description?
 
 The link is
 http://itunes.apple.com/app/bluetooth-onoff./id514869898?mt=8
 
 The description reads:
 Did it take too many steps just to turn on/off bluetooth? You can now 
 turn
 on/off just by launching this app. Just in a second, you can activate or
 deactivate bluetooth.
 In addtion, you can chat with other users nearby.
 * Tip : Turn on the app's setting if you want to turn on/off upon 
 launch.
 iPhone / iPad - Settings - scroll down - OnOff - turn on switch 
 -
 kill the app and relaunch
 
 
 -
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 On 4/17/2012 4:44 PM, beverly wrote:
 Will someone explain why or how this app could be used?
 
 - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler
 kriegle...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:26 PM
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 
 Hi Paula,
 
 Thanks for this. Works as advertised. I thought this feature was to
 be implemented into Siri, but since that hasn't happened yet, I
 grabbed this app.
 
 Les
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Paula Mack wrote:
 
 Check out the Bluetooth on off application in the IOS App Store.
 It's awesome. Get it before Apple removes it.
 
 Paula Mack
 On FaceBook: pm3456
 On Twitter: pm3456
 On Skype: psm3456
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-18 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

couldn't you just close the apps that uses locations?  Or even better, just 
turn location services off?  To each there own of course but, turning airplane 
mode on sounds so final to me.  Like throwing the baby out with the bath water 
kinda thing.  

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Apr 18, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Sandy Tomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
I habitually turn Airplane mode on. I have many Apps that use Location 
 based services and so my battery is greatly affected if I leave both the 
 phone and Wifi running. I often fall asleep with a book and iLike2Read 
 whispering in my ear through the wired earphones. If I leave, by accident, 
 Airplane mode on, and i have, as I generally do, Autolock off, I will find my 
 battery dead by morning, but with flight mode on, I may well have 60/70 
 percent left. Also, if I am travelling and want to read my mail, I only turn 
 the wireless connectivity on from time to time to keep me up to date and 
 check for missed calls etc. Now, whether this is due to Wifi, phone or 
 Bluetooth, I don't know, but something that does occur to me is:
 1. Why don't people, such as myself who like to turn this functionality on 
 and off on a regular basis, just leave settings open in the App chooser? It 
 is the work of a seccond to go there and toggle Airplane mode on/off as it is 
 first in the list of settings?
 2. Rather than an extra App with the need to find it, go into it and so on, 
 how about Apple moving the Bluetooth settings button to just below the 
 Airplane mode button in settings? Thus obviating the need to go one layer 
 further in via General etc`?
 
I only have the iPhone 4, but wonder, can't you tell Siri to turn these 
 various functions on and off? So, would such an app as this new Bluetooth one 
 be of any use at all to 4s users? 
 
Finally, what might really be a game changer would be if we could activate 
 the various items on the status bar, so when you touch Bluetoohth, say, you 
 could choose to activate/deactivate it from there, same with Flight mode and 
 phone. Just a thought.
 
Sandy. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 18 Apr 2012, at 09:43, Sure Shot 69 suresho...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 I never turn my bluetooth off either, so all I have to do is, turn on my 
 headset or keyboard, and I'm good to go.
 
 Jim.
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:14 AM
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 
 Lol,
 
 No worries.  I will take the bullet for both of us if any are coming by 
 that comment/opinion.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:00 AM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I leave my Bluetooth on all of the time but didn't want to mention that
 because I wasn't sure I should but I always have.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 You know, I don't mean to be a kill joy about this app but, why don't 
 people
 leave bluetooth on?  I mean, if you toggle it on/off so much that this 
 would
 be valuable to you, why not just leave BT on.  The battery consumption for
 this radio is so low when not in use, you won't even notice a battery hit
 unless you are really keeping track.  Really.  It my lower your usage time
 by all of 30 minutes per charging cycle.
 
 JMO.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Beverly, have you checked out the app description?
 
 The link is
 http://itunes.apple.com/app/bluetooth-onoff./id514869898?mt=8
 
 The description reads:
 Did it take too many steps just to turn on/off bluetooth? You can now turn
 on/off just by launching this app. Just in a second, you can activate or
 deactivate bluetooth.
 In addtion, you can chat with other users nearby.
 * Tip : Turn on the app's setting if you want to turn on/off upon launch.
 iPhone / iPad - Settings - scroll down - OnOff - turn on switch -
 kill the app and relaunch
 
 
 -
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 On 4/17/2012 4:44 PM, beverly wrote:
 Will someone explain why or how this app could be used?
 
 - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler
 kriegle...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:26 PM
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 
 Hi Paula,
 
 Thanks for this. Works as advertised. I thought this feature was to
 be implemented into Siri, but since that hasn't happened yet

Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-17 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw
Got it. Had to type the word bluetooth on to find it. Thanks.

On 4/17/12, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is the name of this app?

 On 4/17/12, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Paula,

 Thanks for this.  Works as advertised.  I thought this feature was to be
 implemented into Siri, but since that hasn't happened yet, I grabbed this
 app.

 Les
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Paula Mack wrote:

 Check out the Bluetooth on off  application in the IOS App Store. It's
 awesome. Get  it before Apple removes it.

 Paula Mack
 On FaceBook: pm3456
 On Twitter: pm3456
 On Skype: psm3456

 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-17 Thread Paula Mack
I think the latest update made those modifications unable to work any more.

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

 This sounds like a good app. The cost is $.99 and should be okay if it works. 
 I thought that I remember seeing that there was a way to toggle things like 
 Bluetooth and Wi-Fi without having to jailbreak. The method was free and 
 accessible. I just don't remember what it was. I believe that it involves 
 making some bookmark widgets from safari.
 
 
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 On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Paula Mack pmack...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Check out the Bluetooth on off  application in the IOS App Store. It's 
 awesome. Get  it before Apple removes it.
 
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Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-17 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi all. Earlier I posted that I thought there was a way to use Safari to 
make shortcuts to toggle things like Air Plane mode, Bluetooth, ETC, and 
I found it. The link below explains this. Please note that I have not 
actually tried this myself since my phone is jailbroken and I already 
have other means of toggling things, but this is a good alternative for 
those who may not get the Bluetooth On Off app or those who want to 
toggle other things. The link is kind of long so watch the wrapping.


http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/11/15/safari_based_ios_shortcuts_offer_quick_access_to_bluetooth_airplane_mode_more/




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On 4/17/2012 4:41 PM, Paula Mack wrote:

Just got home so am trying it now. Seems to work so far. I knew it was a 
gamble, but would be so convenient if it worked out, and I doubt that Apple 
will allow it in the store for long.

Regards,
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On Apr 17, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Les Krieglerkriegle...@gmail.com  wrote:


Hi Paula,

Thanks for this.  Works as advertised.  I thought this feature was to be 
implemented into Siri, but since that hasn't happened yet, I grabbed this app.

Les
On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Paula Mack wrote:


Check out the Bluetooth on off  application in the IOS App Store. It's awesome. 
Get  it before Apple removes it.

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Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-17 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Christopher, it's possible that people are worried because Apple has 
typically in the past not liked apps to mess with settings or automate 
things like this. Also, because these kinds of things are normally done 
with jailbreaking, perhaps people are worried that Apple may decide that 
this app is on that border. It's hard to say. However even without this 
app there are ways you can toggle the status of things and don't have to 
jailbreak to do it. I just posted a link in my prior message which 
mentions that.


Take care.


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On 4/17/2012 5:07 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I'm new to this whole iPhone thing, but why are people worried this app
will be removed from the App Store? Doesn't Apple have a process to
allow applets in the App Store in the first place? Also, what's wrong
with this application that Apple would find objectionable?

On 17/04/12 15:41, Paula Mack wrote:

Just got home so am trying it now. Seems to work so far. I knew it was a 
gamble, but would be so convenient if it worked out, and I doubt that Apple 
will allow it in the store for long.

Regards,
Paula



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On Apr 17, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Les Krieglerkriegle...@gmail.com  wrote:


Hi Paula,

Thanks for this.  Works as advertised.  I thought this feature was to be 
implemented into Siri, but since that hasn't happened yet, I grabbed this app.

Les
On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Paula Mack wrote:


Check out the Bluetooth on off  application in the IOS App Store. It's awesome. 
Get  it before Apple removes it.

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Re: New Bluetooth app

2012-04-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I really don't think the savings are much better if better at all than what I 
stated.  You might loose an hour tops.  And I'm being generous.  Almost no 
power is being used when a BT device isn't actually paired and in use with your 
iPhone.  I would hope the user has the common sense if their battery is running 
down, and they are not going to be in a position to charge, that they would 
turn off bluetooth, and not use BT devices anyway which way. *shrug*.  

As far as security goes, I guess.  It's like a risk reward thing.  The chances 
of your phone being compromised via bluetooth is so low, I couldn't even begin 
to guess the chances of it actually happening.  Just the huge number of devices 
using bluetooth makes your chances good.  Not to mention, the relatively low 
number of people that would know how to exploit you leaving bluetooth on.

But that being said, if the person goes for long stretches of time without 
using bluetooth, this app would be kind of pointless, no?  I would think this 
was for those who toggled BT on/off quite frequently.

But either which way, its up to the individual what they decide to do with 
their phone.

JMO. 

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On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I disagree, in addition to battery savings, which I think are greater
 than what's indicated below, and the fact that if you're between power
 sources that extra 30 minutes or so could be important, there's also the
 security concerns. I know that bluetooth is secure but why leave
 yourself open if you're not going to be using your bluetooth for an
 extended period of time. IMHO, whether you want your bluetooth running
 or not is a personal preference and no one is wrong for leaving it on or
 wanting a quick way to turn it off.
 
 On 17/04/12 23:15, Anthony Vece wrote:
 Their is no reason to turn it off.
 
 
 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
 On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:00 AM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I leave my Bluetooth on all of the time but didn't want to mention that
 because I wasn't sure I should but I always have.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 You know, I don't mean to be a kill joy about this app but, why don't people
 leave bluetooth on?  I mean, if you toggle it on/off so much that this would
 be valuable to you, why not just leave BT on.  The battery consumption for
 this radio is so low when not in use, you won't even notice a battery hit
 unless you are really keeping track.  Really.  It my lower your usage time
 by all of 30 minutes per charging cycle.
 
 JMO.
 
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 On Apr 17, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 
 Hello Beverly, have you checked out the app description?
 
 The link is
 http://itunes.apple.com/app/bluetooth-onoff./id514869898?mt=8
 
 The description reads:
 Did it take too many steps just to turn on/off bluetooth? You can now turn
 on/off just by launching this app. Just in a second, you can activate or
 deactivate bluetooth.
 In addtion, you can chat with other users nearby.
 * Tip : Turn on the app's setting if you want to turn on/off upon launch.
 iPhone / iPad - Settings - scroll down - OnOff - turn on switch -
 kill the app and relaunch
 
 
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 On 4/17/2012 4:44 PM, beverly wrote:
 Will someone explain why or how this app could be used?
 
 - Original Message - From: Les Kriegler
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:26 PM
 Subject: Re: New Bluetooth app
 
 
 Hi Paula,
 
 Thanks for this. Works as advertised. I thought this feature was to
 be implemented into Siri, but since that hasn't happened yet, I
 grabbed this app.
 
 Les
 On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Paula Mack wrote:
 
 Check out the Bluetooth on off application in the IOS App Store.
 It's awesome. Get it before Apple removes it.
 
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