RE: Product recognition.

2019-04-04 Thread Larry Lumpkin
If your hands hurt as bad as ours do, you would.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

 

Good heavens. No way.



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On Apr 3, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

The logantech braille labeler makes braille on in3/8 dymo tape and costs now I 
think around $700. We got ours at the introductory price of $500 several years 
ago. It runs on 6 AA batteries or an adaptor.

 

 

From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

 

hi,

 

what is the LoganTech braille labeler? i haven’t heard of it before and how 
much does it cost?

 

Thanks, Husna

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 3:47 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Product recognition.

 

Yes, that is true although the same applies to the LoganTech braille labeler, 
you can get a QWERTY keyboard for it and then any sighted person can produce 
perfect braille labels.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

 

You are right about rail been faster to read once it’s on the containers. The 
big advantage to the pen friend is that a sighted person can do the whole 
business. They can do it when they have time, not when you both have time, so 
you can make the braille labels that they can’t make.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

The one good thing the Pen Friend has going for itself is the small size of the 
labels. I rarely use mine and really should sell it, I find it way to 
inconvenient to get the Pen Friend and then to scan all my spice containers, if 
they have a braille label I can do it in half the time or less especially since 
I love spices and have about 40 spice containers. I actually just bit the 
bullet and ordered one of the 6-dot braille labelers from LoganTech since I 
don’t have a Perkins any more and really don’t use braille for anything except 
labels. The little plastic Dymo gadgets with the wheel you can turn are way to 
tedious and I can easily justify this investment as a business expense.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

 

Jenney:

 

The Pen Friend is great for labeling all your dry goods and freezer containers.

 

I especially like it for labeling my spice bottles.

 

Holly

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Logantech labeler, previously was Re: Product recognition.

2019-04-03 Thread Richard Turner

Here is the web site link for the Logantech Labeler for those who want details:
https://logantech.com/products/6dot-braille-label-maker




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On Apr 3, 2019, at 7:01 PM, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

I never heard of this labler. It sounds like it is a braille embosser for 
labels. Do you type the information into the labler or you scan it in? Just 
curious.



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On Apr 3, 2019, at 9:31 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Good heavens. No way.


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On Apr 3, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

The logantech braille labeler makes braille on in3/8 dymo tape and costs now I 
think around $700. We got ours at the introductory price of $500 several years 
ago. It runs on 6 AA batteries or an adaptor.


From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

hi,

what is the LoganTech braille labeler? i haven’t heard of it before and how 
much does it cost?

Thanks, Husna


From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 3:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Product recognition.

Yes, that is true although the same applies to the LoganTech braille labeler, 
you can get a QWERTY keyboard for it and then any sighted person can produce 
perfect braille labels.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

You are right about rail been faster to read once it’s on the containers. The 
big advantage to the pen friend is that a sighted person can do the whole 
business. They can do it when they have time, not when you both have time, so 
you can make the braille labels that they can’t make.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
The one good thing the Pen Friend has going for itself is the small size of the 
labels. I rarely use mine and really should sell it, I find it way to 
inconvenient to get the Pen Friend and then to scan all my spice containers, if 
they have a braille label I can do it in half the time or less especially since 
I love spices and have about 40 spice containers. I actually just bit the 
bullet and ordered one of the 6-dot braille labelers from LoganTech since I 
don’t have a Perkins any more and really don’t use braille for anything except 
labels. The little plastic Dymo gadgets with the wheel you can turn are way to 
tedious and I can easily justify this investment as a business expense.

Regards,
Sieghard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

Jenney:

The Pen Friend is great for labeling all your dry goods and freezer containers.

I especially like it for labeling my spice bottles.

Holly
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Re: Product recognition.

2019-04-03 Thread Cris Ali
I never heard of this labler. It sounds like it is a braille embosser for 
labels. Do you type the information into the labler or you scan it in? Just 
curious.



Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 3, 2019, at 9:31 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Good heavens. No way.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 3, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

The logantech braille labeler makes braille on in3/8 dymo tape and costs now I 
think around $700. We got ours at the introductory price of $500 several years 
ago. It runs on 6 AA batteries or an adaptor.


From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

hi,

what is the LoganTech braille labeler? i haven’t heard of it before and how 
much does it cost?

Thanks, Husna


From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 3:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Product recognition.

Yes, that is true although the same applies to the LoganTech braille labeler, 
you can get a QWERTY keyboard for it and then any sighted person can produce 
perfect braille labels.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

You are right about rail been faster to read once it’s on the containers. The 
big advantage to the pen friend is that a sighted person can do the whole 
business. They can do it when they have time, not when you both have time, so 
you can make the braille labels that they can’t make.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
The one good thing the Pen Friend has going for itself is the small size of the 
labels. I rarely use mine and really should sell it, I find it way to 
inconvenient to get the Pen Friend and then to scan all my spice containers, if 
they have a braille label I can do it in half the time or less especially since 
I love spices and have about 40 spice containers. I actually just bit the 
bullet and ordered one of the 6-dot braille labelers from LoganTech since I 
don’t have a Perkins any more and really don’t use braille for anything except 
labels. The little plastic Dymo gadgets with the wheel you can turn are way to 
tedious and I can easily justify this investment as a business expense.

Regards,
Sieghard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

Jenney:

The Pen Friend is great for labeling all your dry goods and freezer containers.

I especially like it for labeling my spice bottles.

Holly
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Re: Product recognition.

2019-04-03 Thread Mary Otten
Good heavens. No way.


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> On Apr 3, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> The logantech braille labeler makes braille on in3/8 dymo tape and costs now 
> I think around $700. We got ours at the introductory price of $500 several 
> years ago. It runs on 6 AA batteries or an adaptor.
>  
>  
> From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Product recognition.
>  
> hi,
>  
> what is the LoganTech braille labeler? i haven’t heard of it before and how 
> much does it cost?
>  
> Thanks, Husna
>  
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 3:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Product recognition.
>  
> Yes, that is true although the same applies to the LoganTech braille labeler, 
> you can get a QWERTY keyboard for it and then any sighted person can produce 
> perfect braille labels.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Product recognition.
>  
> You are right about rail been faster to read once it’s on the containers. The 
> big advantage to the pen friend is that a sighted person can do the whole 
> business. They can do it when they have time, not when you both have time, so 
> you can make the braille labels that they can’t make.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> The one good thing the Pen Friend has going for itself is the small size of 
> the labels. I rarely use mine and really should sell it, I find it way to 
> inconvenient to get the Pen Friend and then to scan all my spice containers, 
> if they have a braille label I can do it in half the time or less especially 
> since I love spices and have about 40 spice containers. I actually just bit 
> the bullet and ordered one of the 6-dot braille labelers from LoganTech since 
> I don’t have a Perkins any more and really don’t use braille for anything 
> except labels. The little plastic Dymo gadgets with the wheel you can turn 
> are way to tedious and I can easily justify this investment as a business 
> expense.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Product recognition.
>  
> Jenney:
>  
> The Pen Friend is great for labeling all your dry goods and freezer 
> containers.
>  
> I especially like it for labeling my spice bottles.
>  
> Holly
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RE: Product recognition.

2019-04-03 Thread Larry Lumpkin
The logantech braille labeler makes braille on in3/8 dymo tape and costs now I 
think around $700. We got ours at the introductory price of $500 several years 
ago. It runs on 6 AA batteries or an adaptor.

 

 

From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

 

hi,

 

what is the LoganTech braille labeler? i haven’t heard of it before and how 
much does it cost?

 

Thanks, Husna

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 3:47 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Product recognition.

 

Yes, that is true although the same applies to the LoganTech braille labeler, 
you can get a QWERTY keyboard for it and then any sighted person can produce 
perfect braille labels.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

 

You are right about rail been faster to read once it’s on the containers. The 
big advantage to the pen friend is that a sighted person can do the whole 
business. They can do it when they have time, not when you both have time, so 
you can make the braille labels that they can’t make.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

The one good thing the Pen Friend has going for itself is the small size of the 
labels. I rarely use mine and really should sell it, I find it way to 
inconvenient to get the Pen Friend and then to scan all my spice containers, if 
they have a braille label I can do it in half the time or less especially since 
I love spices and have about 40 spice containers. I actually just bit the 
bullet and ordered one of the 6-dot braille labelers from LoganTech since I 
don’t have a Perkins any more and really don’t use braille for anything except 
labels. The little plastic Dymo gadgets with the wheel you can turn are way to 
tedious and I can easily justify this investment as a business expense.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

 

Jenney:

 

The Pen Friend is great for labeling all your dry goods and freezer containers.

 

I especially like it for labeling my spice bottles.

 

Holly

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Re: Product recognition.

2019-04-03 Thread 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone
hi,

what is the LoganTech braille labeler? i haven’t heard of it before and how 
much does it cost?

Thanks, Husna


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 3:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Product recognition.

Yes, that is true although the same applies to the LoganTech braille labeler, 
you can get a QWERTY keyboard for it and then any sighted person can produce 
perfect braille labels.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

 

You are right about rail been faster to read once it’s on the containers. The 
big advantage to the pen friend is that a sighted person can do the whole 
business. They can do it when they have time, not when you both have time, so 
you can make the braille labels that they can’t make.



Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

  The one good thing the Pen Friend has going for itself is the small size of 
the labels. I rarely use mine and really should sell it, I find it way to 
inconvenient to get the Pen Friend and then to scan all my spice containers, if 
they have a braille label I can do it in half the time or less especially since 
I love spices and have about 40 spice containers. I actually just bit the 
bullet and ordered one of the 6-dot braille labelers from LoganTech since I 
don’t have a Perkins any more and really don’t use braille for anything except 
labels. The little plastic Dymo gadgets with the wheel you can turn are way to 
tedious and I can easily justify this investment as a business expense.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
  Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:56 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Product recognition.

   

  Jenney:

   

  The Pen Friend is great for labeling all your dry goods and freezer 
containers.

   

  I especially like it for labeling my spice bottles.

   

  Holly

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RE: Product Recognition

2019-04-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
No need to scan a barcode into Notepad first and then copy and paste it into a 
Google search field, if you open Google and are in the search field you can 
scan a barcode straight into the search field.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Hill
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 8:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

Mary,
I have that scanner and it is great at acquiring barcodes. If the software that 
came with it no-longer works for you, you  might find it interesting to know 
that you can get into an edit field or a program like Notepad then scan your 
product and the number that the barcode translates into gets written into 
notepad or whatever field you’re in and at that point you can put it into 
Google and see what you get.  While this is not all that efficient because of 
the need to Google the bar code it’s fun to play around with if you ever want 
to use that incredible scanner or just want to geek out  on technology.
Personally I like the database Digit-Eyes uses but don’t know if it is 
available on line or if it gets updated any more.
Perhaps someone knows of a database of barcodes that would accept this number 
and give back better results than Google.


Kelly Hill

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that AT 
guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode scanner 
I’ve ever had.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds more 
time than an ID Mate.
I have no vision.
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.
I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kathy 
Kalaluhi
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
announce a product name.


Kathy
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because this 
didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is getting 
slowly worse.
Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning.
The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly toward 
the can.
The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the can.
HTH,
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco 
mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com>> w

RE: Product Recognition

2019-04-03 Thread Richard Turner
Jason Meddaugh of Blind Bargains used to have software that used a public bar 
code database that worked with USB scanners.
I do not recall the address of the database, but perhaps you could reach out to 
him.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 9:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

Thanks, Kelly. I will have to look for that scanner. When I got rid of my XP 
machine, I don’t remember what I did with the scanner. It would be interesting 
to play with.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Kelly Hill 
mailto:kellmast...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Mary,
I have that scanner and it is great at acquiring barcodes. If the software that 
came with it no-longer works for you, you  might find it interesting to know 
that you can get into an edit field or a program like Notepad then scan your 
product and the number that the barcode translates into gets written into 
notepad or whatever field you’re in and at that point you can put it into 
Google and see what you get.  While this is not all that efficient because of 
the need to Google the bar code it’s fun to play around with if you ever want 
to use that incredible scanner or just want to geek out  on technology.
Personally I like the database Digit-Eyes uses but don’t know if it is 
available on line or if it gets updated any more.
Perhaps someone knows of a database of barcodes that would accept this number 
and give back better results than Google.


Kelly Hill

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that AT 
guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode scanner 
I’ve ever had.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds more 
time than an ID Mate.
I have no vision.
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.
I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kathy 
Kalaluhi
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
announce a product name.


Kathy
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because this 
didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is getting 
slowly worse.
Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning.
The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly tow

Re: Product Recognition

2019-04-03 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks, Kelly. I will have to look for that scanner. When I got rid of my XP 
machine, I don’t remember what I did with the scanner. It would be interesting 
to play with.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Kelly Hill  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> I have that scanner and it is great at acquiring barcodes. If the software 
> that came with it no-longer works for you, you  might find it interesting to 
> know that you can get into an edit field or a program like Notepad then scan 
> your product and the number that the barcode translates into gets written 
> into notepad or whatever field you’re in and at that point you can put it 
> into Google and see what you get.  While this is not all that efficient 
> because of the need to Google the bar code it’s fun to play around with if 
> you ever want to use that incredible scanner or just want to geek out  on 
> technology.
> Personally I like the database Digit-Eyes uses but don’t know if it is 
> available on line or if it gets updated any more.
> Perhaps someone knows of a database of barcodes that would accept this number 
> and give back better results than Google.
>  
>  
> Kelly Hill
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Product Recognition
>  
> Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
> darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
> and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that 
> AT guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
> program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode 
> scanner I’ve ever had.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds 
> more time than an ID Mate.
> I have no vision.
> Richard
>  
> 
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
>  
> 
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Product Recognition
>  
> Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
> actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
> frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app 
> instead of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.
> I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
> the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so 
> of course every situation is going to be different.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Product Recognition
>  
> You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
> just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
> mate summit which is terrific.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Kalaluhi
> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Product Recognition
>  
> I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
> announce a product name. 
>  
>  
> Kathy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> 
> Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
> as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because 
> this didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is 
> getting slowly worse. 
> 
> Lelia 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning.
> The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly 
> toward the can.
> The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the 
> can.
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
> 
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
>  
> 
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
> can. No luck. I turned the can eve

RE: Product Recognition

2019-04-03 Thread Larry Lumpkin
The sumit is several generations behind now but still takes the database so 
we’ll just keep it and not spend $1300 more.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

 

I couldn't agree more. The ID Mate is really a great product. 

Since it is a dedicated bar code scanner, it has a specialized camera designed 
for just such a purpose so it is very fast and if a product is not in the 
database, you can record a label once you find out what it is.

I simply choose to not spend several hundred dollars even on a used one, when I 
can figure out the product in only a slightly longer time with other methods.

But I know a lot of people love their ID Mate and I think that is great.

May we always have choices.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 3, 2019, at 8:00 AM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

I’m just glad we have choice. We like the dedicated id mate and it meets our 
needs efficiently. I think you can get a lifetime of updates for a price. I 
think it might have been $100.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

 

if you are talking about the ID Mate bar code scanners, they have an database 
on board which they update every 6 months or so. 

I believe you get the first update free and then they are $50 for future 
updates.

The new units cost $1295.

Hence, my sticking with free product identification methods like Seeing AI; or 
using TapTapSee or now Voice Dream Scanner to scan the package.

Granted that last one is not free, but it works well on bottles and cans.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 3, 2019, at 7:40 AM, BB mailto:berniece1...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Do these scanners have a dedicated bar code database, or do you need to connect 
to an online service or a database already on your device?

ctd

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:57 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

Maybe suggest to Microsoft if they could set up Seeing AI to default to a 
Bluetooth barcode scanner if one is connected to the phone instead of the 
phone’s camera. You can buy a good Bluetooth barcode scanner on Amazon for $40 
or $50, I bought a couple we use at my retail store at the cash register and 
they work fine. Of course ideally you want an omni-directional scanner which 
will read the barcode no matter which way it is oriented and some of the less 
expensive scanners only do bi-directional which means they read if it’s left to 
right or right to left, but not up and down or skewed.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
pegkan...@gmail.com <mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

I had that same barcode scanner from a T guys it was really great.

Peggy Sent from my i phone.

 

☃️, 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that AT 
guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode scanner 
I’ve ever had.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds more 
time than an ID Mate. 

I have no vision.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in ha

Re: Product Recognition

2019-04-03 Thread Richard Turner

I couldn't agree more. The ID Mate is really a great product.
Since it is a dedicated bar code scanner, it has a specialized camera designed 
for just such a purpose so it is very fast and if a product is not in the 
database, you can record a label once you find out what it is.
I simply choose to not spend several hundred dollars even on a used one, when I 
can figure out the product in only a slightly longer time with other methods.
But I know a lot of people love their ID Mate and I think that is great.
May we always have choices.
Richard



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Apr 3, 2019, at 8:00 AM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

I’m just glad we have choice. We like the dedicated id mate and it meets our 
needs efficiently. I think you can get a lifetime of updates for a price. I 
think it might have been $100.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product Recognition


if you are talking about the ID Mate bar code scanners, they have an database 
on board which they update every 6 months or so.
I believe you get the first update free and then they are $50 for future 
updates.
The new units cost $1295.
Hence, my sticking with free product identification methods like Seeing AI; or 
using TapTapSee or now Voice Dream Scanner to scan the package.
Granted that last one is not free, but it works well on bottles and cans.
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 3, 2019, at 7:40 AM, BB 
mailto:berniece1...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Do these scanners have a dedicated bar code database, or do you need to connect 
to an online service or a database already on your device?
ctd

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

Maybe suggest to Microsoft if they could set up Seeing AI to default to a 
Bluetooth barcode scanner if one is connected to the phone instead of the 
phone’s camera. You can buy a good Bluetooth barcode scanner on Amazon for $40 
or $50, I bought a couple we use at my retail store at the cash register and 
they work fine. Of course ideally you want an omni-directional scanner which 
will read the barcode no matter which way it is oriented and some of the less 
expensive scanners only do bi-directional which means they read if it’s left to 
right or right to left, but not up and down or skewed.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
pegkan...@gmail.com<mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

I had that same barcode scanner from a T guys it was really great.
Peggy Sent from my i phone.

☃️,

On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that AT 
guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode scanner 
I’ve ever had.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds more 
time than an ID Mate.
I have no vision.
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.
I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

From: viphone@google

RE: Product Recognition

2019-04-03 Thread Larry Lumpkin
We have the logantech labeler because our hands have gotten so arthritic that 
we can’t punch slate and stylus stuff any more. We do also have two hand-held 
barcode scanners from AT Guys one of them being the fusion—the small one 
mentioned down this thread. The pc program, barcode finder, still works on our 
windows 10 machines and we do use it sometimes.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

 

if you are talking about the ID Mate bar code scanners, they have an database 
on board which they update every 6 months or so. 

I believe you get the first update free and then they are $50 for future 
updates.

The new units cost $1295.

Hence, my sticking with free product identification methods like Seeing AI; or 
using TapTapSee or now Voice Dream Scanner to scan the package.

Granted that last one is not free, but it works well on bottles and cans.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 3, 2019, at 7:40 AM, BB mailto:berniece1...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Do these scanners have a dedicated bar code database, or do you need to connect 
to an online service or a database already on your device?

ctd

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:57 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

Maybe suggest to Microsoft if they could set up Seeing AI to default to a 
Bluetooth barcode scanner if one is connected to the phone instead of the 
phone’s camera. You can buy a good Bluetooth barcode scanner on Amazon for $40 
or $50, I bought a couple we use at my retail store at the cash register and 
they work fine. Of course ideally you want an omni-directional scanner which 
will read the barcode no matter which way it is oriented and some of the less 
expensive scanners only do bi-directional which means they read if it’s left to 
right or right to left, but not up and down or skewed.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
pegkan...@gmail.com <mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

I had that same barcode scanner from a T guys it was really great.

Peggy Sent from my i phone.

 

☃️, 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that AT 
guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode scanner 
I’ve ever had.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds more 
time than an ID Mate. 

I have no vision.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.

I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kathy Kalaluhi

RE: Product Recognition

2019-04-03 Thread Larry Lumpkin
I’m just glad we have choice. We like the dedicated id mate and it meets our 
needs efficiently. I think you can get a lifetime of updates for a price. I 
think it might have been $100.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

 

if you are talking about the ID Mate bar code scanners, they have an database 
on board which they update every 6 months or so. 

I believe you get the first update free and then they are $50 for future 
updates.

The new units cost $1295.

Hence, my sticking with free product identification methods like Seeing AI; or 
using TapTapSee or now Voice Dream Scanner to scan the package.

Granted that last one is not free, but it works well on bottles and cans.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 3, 2019, at 7:40 AM, BB mailto:berniece1...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Do these scanners have a dedicated bar code database, or do you need to connect 
to an online service or a database already on your device?

ctd

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:57 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

Maybe suggest to Microsoft if they could set up Seeing AI to default to a 
Bluetooth barcode scanner if one is connected to the phone instead of the 
phone’s camera. You can buy a good Bluetooth barcode scanner on Amazon for $40 
or $50, I bought a couple we use at my retail store at the cash register and 
they work fine. Of course ideally you want an omni-directional scanner which 
will read the barcode no matter which way it is oriented and some of the less 
expensive scanners only do bi-directional which means they read if it’s left to 
right or right to left, but not up and down or skewed.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
pegkan...@gmail.com <mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

I had that same barcode scanner from a T guys it was really great.

Peggy Sent from my i phone.

 

☃️, 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that AT 
guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode scanner 
I’ve ever had.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds more 
time than an ID Mate. 

I have no vision.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.

I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kathy Kalaluhi
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

I am also having problems. It beeps

Re: Product Recognition

2019-04-03 Thread Richard Turner

if you are talking about the ID Mate bar code scanners, they have an database 
on board which they update every 6 months or so.
I believe you get the first update free and then they are $50 for future 
updates.
The new units cost $1295.
Hence, my sticking with free product identification methods like Seeing AI; or 
using TapTapSee or now Voice Dream Scanner to scan the package.
Granted that last one is not free, but it works well on bottles and cans.
Richard



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Apr 3, 2019, at 7:40 AM, BB 
mailto:berniece1...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Do these scanners have a dedicated bar code database, or do you need to connect 
to an online service or a database already on your device?
ctd

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

Maybe suggest to Microsoft if they could set up Seeing AI to default to a 
Bluetooth barcode scanner if one is connected to the phone instead of the 
phone’s camera. You can buy a good Bluetooth barcode scanner on Amazon for $40 
or $50, I bought a couple we use at my retail store at the cash register and 
they work fine. Of course ideally you want an omni-directional scanner which 
will read the barcode no matter which way it is oriented and some of the less 
expensive scanners only do bi-directional which means they read if it’s left to 
right or right to left, but not up and down or skewed.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
pegkan...@gmail.com<mailto:pegkan...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

I had that same barcode scanner from a T guys it was really great.
Peggy Sent from my i phone.

☃️,

On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that AT 
guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode scanner 
I’ve ever had.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds more 
time than an ID Mate.
I have no vision.
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.
I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Kalaluhi
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
announce a product name.


Kathy
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because this 
didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is getting 
slowly worse.
Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning.
The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly toward 
the can.
The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the can.
HTH,
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code o

Re: Product Recognition

2019-04-03 Thread BB
Do these scanners have a dedicated bar code database, or do you need to connect 
to an online service or a database already on your device?
ctd

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

Maybe suggest to Microsoft if they could set up Seeing AI to default to a 
Bluetooth barcode scanner if one is connected to the phone instead of the 
phone’s camera. You can buy a good Bluetooth barcode scanner on Amazon for $40 
or $50, I bought a couple we use at my retail store at the cash register and 
they work fine. Of course ideally you want an omni-directional scanner which 
will read the barcode no matter which way it is oriented and some of the less 
expensive scanners only do bi-directional which means they read if it’s left to 
right or right to left, but not up and down or skewed.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
pegkan...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

I had that same barcode scanner from a T guys it was really great.

Peggy Sent from my i phone.

 

☃️, 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

  Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that AT 
guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode scanner 
I’ve ever had.

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 

I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds 
more time than an ID Mate. 

I have no vision.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:

  We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
  Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Product Recognition

   

  Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering 
the actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.

  I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to 
warrant the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on 
me, so of course every situation is going to be different.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
  Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Product Recognition

   

  You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember 
which just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have 
an id mate summit which is terrific.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kathy Kalaluhi
  Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Product Recognition

   

  I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does 
not announce a product name. 

   

   

  Kathy

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:

Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans 
as well as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow 
because this didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but 
it is getting slowly worse. 

Lelia 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

   

  i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this 
morning. 

  The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move 
slowly toward the can.

  The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half 
of the can.

  HTH,

  Richard

   

  The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they 
don't have any." -- Alice Walker

   


  On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:

Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a 
soup
can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a 
whole
lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little 
... slow.

I tried using short text, and 

Re: Product recognition.

2019-04-03 Thread Kay Malmquist
But when a sighted person makes a Braille label, Are they in grade 2?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Till we speak again,
may the warm winds of Heaven
blow softly upon your house,
may the great spirit bless all who enter there,
may your moccasins make happy tracks in many snows,
And may the rainbow always touch your shoulder.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 9:47 PM
  Subject: RE: Product recognition.


  Yes, that is true although the same applies to the LoganTech braille 
labeler, you can get a QWERTY keyboard for it and then any sighted person 
can produce perfect braille labels.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
  Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:41 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Product recognition.



  You are right about rail been faster to read once it’s on the containers. 
The big advantage to the pen friend is that a sighted person can do the 
whole business. They can do it when they have time, not when you both have 
time, so you can make the braille labels that they can’t make.



  Sent from my iPhone


  On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

The one good thing the Pen Friend has going for itself is the small size 
of the labels. I rarely use mine and really should sell it, I find it way to 
inconvenient to get the Pen Friend and then to scan all my spice containers, 
if they have a braille label I can do it in half the time or less especially 
since I love spices and have about 40 spice containers. I actually just bit 
the bullet and ordered one of the 6-dot braille labelers from LoganTech 
since I don’t have a Perkins any more and really don’t use braille for 
anything except labels. The little plastic Dymo gadgets with the wheel you 
can turn are way to tedious and I can easily justify this investment as a 
business expense.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Holly
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product recognition.



Jenney:



The Pen Friend is great for labeling all your dry goods and freezer 
containers.



I especially like it for labeling my spice bottles.



Holly

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Re: Product Recognition

2019-04-03 Thread Arlene
We purchased one of those id mates from Keven who sells these scanners and 
computers, for $100, and it's really great.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cristobal Muñoz 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 6:30 PM
  Subject: RE: Product Recognition


  I believe it. If my circumstances were different, I’d probably give one of 
these specialized scanners more serious consideration.

  The newer ID Mates though… Man, that’s a hard ask with that price tag.

  I’ve seen Summits going for as low as $150 so who knows, maybe I’ll just grab 
one for those few times My eyeballs aren’t home and my iPhone refuses to play.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
  Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Product Recognition

   

  We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
  Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Product Recognition

   

  Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.

  I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
  Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Product Recognition

   

  You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Kalaluhi
  Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Product Recognition

   

  I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
announce a product name. 

   

   

  Kathy

  Sent from my iPhone


  On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:

Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as 
well as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because 
this didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is 
getting slowly worse. 

Lelia 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

   

  i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning. 

  The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly 
toward the can.

  The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of 
the can.

  HTH,

  Richard

   

  The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
have any." -- Alice Walker

   


  On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:

Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... 
slow.

I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
wanted to know.

So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of
the reviews.

Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile 
contenders?

Thanks for any help.

Joe

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RE: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread Kelly Hill
Mary,

I have that scanner and it is great at acquiring barcodes. If the software that 
came with it no-longer works for you, you  might find it interesting to know 
that you can get into an edit field or a program like Notepad then scan your 
product and the number that the barcode translates into gets written into 
notepad or whatever field you’re in and at that point you can put it into 
Google and see what you get.  While this is not all that efficient because of 
the need to Google the bar code it’s fun to play around with if you ever want 
to use that incredible scanner or just want to geek out  on technology.

Personally I like the database Digit-Eyes uses but don’t know if it is 
available on line or if it gets updated any more.

Perhaps someone knows of a database of barcodes that would accept this number 
and give back better results than Google. 

 

 

Kelly Hill

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that AT 
guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode scanner 
I’ve ever had.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds more 
time than an ID Mate. 

I have no vision.

Richard

 

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any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.

I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
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Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kathy Kalaluhi
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
announce a product name. 

 

 

Kathy

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because this 
didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is getting 
slowly worse. 

Lelia 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning. 

The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly toward 
the can.

The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the can.

HTH,

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.

I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
w

Re: Product recognition.

2019-04-02 Thread Mary Otten
Wow! I’m not familiar with that device.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that is true although the same applies to the LoganTech braille labeler, 
> you can get a QWERTY keyboard for it and then any sighted person can produce 
> perfect braille labels.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Product recognition.
>  
> You are right about rail been faster to read once it’s on the containers. The 
> big advantage to the pen friend is that a sighted person can do the whole 
> business. They can do it when they have time, not when you both have time, so 
> you can make the braille labels that they can’t make.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> The one good thing the Pen Friend has going for itself is the small size of 
> the labels. I rarely use mine and really should sell it, I find it way to 
> inconvenient to get the Pen Friend and then to scan all my spice containers, 
> if they have a braille label I can do it in half the time or less especially 
> since I love spices and have about 40 spice containers. I actually just bit 
> the bullet and ordered one of the 6-dot braille labelers from LoganTech since 
> I don’t have a Perkins any more and really don’t use braille for anything 
> except labels. The little plastic Dymo gadgets with the wheel you can turn 
> are way to tedious and I can easily justify this investment as a business 
> expense.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Product recognition.
>  
> Jenney:
>  
> The Pen Friend is great for labeling all your dry goods and freezer 
> containers.
>  
> I especially like it for labeling my spice bottles.
>  
> Holly
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2019-04-02 Thread Holly
Hi Sieghard:

I never learned braille.

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RE: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Maybe suggest to Microsoft if they could set up Seeing AI to default to a 
Bluetooth barcode scanner if one is connected to the phone instead of the 
phone’s camera. You can buy a good Bluetooth barcode scanner on Amazon for $40 
or $50, I bought a couple we use at my retail store at the cash register and 
they work fine. Of course ideally you want an omni-directional scanner which 
will read the barcode no matter which way it is oriented and some of the less 
expensive scanners only do bi-directional which means they read if it’s left to 
right or right to left, but not up and down or skewed.


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Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

I had that same barcode scanner from a T guys it was really great.
Peggy Sent from my i phone.

☃️,

On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that AT 
guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode scanner 
I’ve ever had.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds more 
time than an ID Mate.
I have no vision.
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.
I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kathy 
Kalaluhi
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
announce a product name.


Kathy
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because this 
didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is getting 
slowly worse.
Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning.
The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly toward 
the can.
The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the can.
HTH,
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco 
mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.

I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
wanted to know.

So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
Eyes on the app store, but i

RE: Product recognition.

2019-04-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, that is true although the same applies to the LoganTech braille labeler, 
you can get a QWERTY keyboard for it and then any sighted person can produce 
perfect braille labels.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

You are right about rail been faster to read once it’s on the containers. The 
big advantage to the pen friend is that a sighted person can do the whole 
business. They can do it when they have time, not when you both have time, so 
you can make the braille labels that they can’t make.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
The one good thing the Pen Friend has going for itself is the small size of the 
labels. I rarely use mine and really should sell it, I find it way to 
inconvenient to get the Pen Friend and then to scan all my spice containers, if 
they have a braille label I can do it in half the time or less especially since 
I love spices and have about 40 spice containers. I actually just bit the 
bullet and ordered one of the 6-dot braille labelers from LoganTech since I 
don’t have a Perkins any more and really don’t use braille for anything except 
labels. The little plastic Dymo gadgets with the wheel you can turn are way to 
tedious and I can easily justify this investment as a business expense.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product recognition.

Jenney:

The Pen Friend is great for labeling all your dry goods and freezer containers.

I especially like it for labeling my spice bottles.

Holly
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RE: Product recognition.

2019-04-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It almost sounds like Jenny likes this Matt guy 藍



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
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You can do as much as you have the ambition and drive to do.  Good for him!



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Re: Product recognition.

2019-04-02 Thread Mary Otten
You are right about rail been faster to read once it’s on the containers. The 
big advantage to the pen friend is that a sighted person can do the whole 
business. They can do it when they have time, not when you both have time, so 
you can make the braille labels that they can’t make.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> The one good thing the Pen Friend has going for itself is the small size of 
> the labels. I rarely use mine and really should sell it, I find it way to 
> inconvenient to get the Pen Friend and then to scan all my spice containers, 
> if they have a braille label I can do it in half the time or less especially 
> since I love spices and have about 40 spice containers. I actually just bit 
> the bullet and ordered one of the 6-dot braille labelers from LoganTech since 
> I don’t have a Perkins any more and really don’t use braille for anything 
> except labels. The little plastic Dymo gadgets with the wheel you can turn 
> are way to tedious and I can easily justify this investment as a business 
> expense.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Product recognition.
>  
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RE: Product recognition.

2019-04-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The one good thing the Pen Friend has going for itself is the small size of the 
labels. I rarely use mine and really should sell it, I find it way to 
inconvenient to get the Pen Friend and then to scan all my spice containers, if 
they have a braille label I can do it in half the time or less especially since 
I love spices and have about 40 spice containers. I actually just bit the 
bullet and ordered one of the 6-dot braille labelers from LoganTech since I 
don’t have a Perkins any more and really don’t use braille for anything except 
labels. The little plastic Dymo gadgets with the wheel you can turn are way to 
tedious and I can easily justify this investment as a business expense.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Jenney:

The Pen Friend is great for labeling all your dry goods and freezer containers.

I especially like it for labeling my spice bottles.

Holly
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Re: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread pegkane52
I had that same barcode scanner from a T guys it was really great.

Peggy Sent from my i phone.

☃️, 

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
> darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
> and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that 
> AT guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
> program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode 
> scanner I’ve ever had.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds 
>> more time than an ID Mate.
>> I have no vision.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> 
>>> We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Cristobal Muñoz
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Product Recognition
>>>  
>>> Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering 
>>> the actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
>>> frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app 
>>> instead of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.
>>> I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to 
>>> warrant the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone 
>>> on me, so of course every situation is going to be different.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Larry Lumpkin
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Product Recognition
>>>  
>>> You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember 
>>> which just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We 
>>> have an id mate summit which is terrific.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Kathy Kalaluhi
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Product Recognition
>>>  
>>> I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
>>> announce a product name. 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Kathy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as 
>>> well as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow 
>>> because this didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes 
>>> but it is getting slowly worse. 
>>> 
>>> Lelia 
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning.
>>> The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly 
>>> toward the can.
>>> The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the 
>>> can.
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
>>> can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
>>> could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
>>> lot of nothin'.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.
>>> 
>>> I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
>>> were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
>>> wanted to know.
>>> 
>>> So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
>>

Re: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread Mary Otten
Sometimes barcodes recognize quickly. Other times, I can’t get them to do a 
darn thing. And sometimes, I will get the wrong identity, only to do it again 
and get the right one. It’s very hit and miss. I used to have a product that AT 
guys sold, it was a little scanner that sat on your desk and worked with a 
program that ran on my old windows XP machine. That is the best barcode scanner 
I’ve ever had.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds 
> more time than an ID Mate.
> I have no vision.
> Richard
> 
> 
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
> 
> 
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
>> We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Cristobal Muñoz
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Product Recognition
>>  
>> Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering 
>> the actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
>> frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app 
>> instead of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.
>> I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
>> the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so 
>> of course every situation is going to be different.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Lumpkin
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Product Recognition
>>  
>> You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
>> just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an 
>> id mate summit which is terrific.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
>> Kalaluhi
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Product Recognition
>>  
>> I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
>> announce a product name. 
>>  
>>  
>> Kathy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as 
>> well as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow 
>> because this didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding  barcodes 
>> but it is getting slowly worse. 
>> 
>> Lelia 
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning.
>> The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly 
>> toward the can.
>> The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the 
>> can.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>  
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
>> can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
>> could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
>> lot of nothin'.
>> 
>> Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.
>> 
>> I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
>> were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
>> wanted to know.
>> 
>> So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
>> Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of
>> the reviews.
>> 
>> Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile contenders?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
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RE: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread Richard Turner
Lelia,
You should write them.  The address is 
seein...@microsoft.com<mailto:seein...@microsoft.com>
Perhaps they can help or figure out maybe what is happening.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because this 
didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is getting 
slowly worse.
Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning.
The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly toward 
the can.
The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the can.
HTH,
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco 
mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.

I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
wanted to know.

So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of
the reviews.

Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile contenders?

Thanks for any help.

Joe

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Re: Product recognition.

2019-04-02 Thread Holly

You can do as much as you have the ambition and drive to do.  Good for him!

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Re: Product recognition.

2019-04-02 Thread Holly
Jenney:

The Pen Friend is great for labeling all your dry goods and freezer containers.

I especially like it for labeling my spice bottles.

Holly

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RE: Product recognition.

2019-04-02 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
Ah, but if you know or even have a cursory knowledge of Braille, this where 
tags come in handy.

For non-perishables and or spices etc., I generally use dedicated containers 
that I slapped Braille on all sides so no matter which way I put it back in the 
pantry, I’m not twisting and turning every which way to figure out what it is 
or don’t’ have to play nose detective popping lids open to take a whiff or feel 
up or the dreaded taste test. 

For the freezer and stuff like chicken, pork, frozen veggies or fruit  or 
whatever, I use some tags I bought at the Braille Institute that are hard 
plastic that you snake an elastic cord through so you can wrap around the zip 
lock bag or Tupperware or whatever. They are permanent tags, but I think 50 
cost something like $10 or $15. And yes, the good old iPhone for barcode 
scanning.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:32 PM
To: Viphone group 
Subject: Product recognition.

 

Matt and I have the ID mate galaxy.  It works great, other then when it can’t 
find the bar-code or the item isn’t in the database.

 

Then that’s when we have to use seeing I or be my eyes.  Thank God for all of 
this technology.  Also have to be good with memorization once you put your 
products in the cupboards, refrigerator, and freezer.

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RE: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
I believe it. If my circumstances were different, I’d probably give one of 
these specialized scanners more serious consideration.

The newer ID Mates though… Man, that’s a hard ask with that price tag.

I’ve seen Summits going for as low as $150 so who knows, maybe I’ll just grab 
one for those few times My eyeballs aren’t home and my iPhone refuses to play.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.

I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kathy Kalaluhi
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
announce a product name. 

 

 

Kathy

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because this 
didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is getting 
slowly worse. 

Lelia 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning. 

The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly toward 
the can.

The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the can.

HTH,

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.

I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
wanted to know.

So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of
the reviews.

Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile contenders?

Thanks for any help.

Joe

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Re: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread Richard Turner

I have not found a bar code that I couldn't identify in only a few seconds more 
time than an ID Mate.
I have no vision.
Richard



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On Apr 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.
I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kathy 
Kalaluhi
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
announce a product name.


Kathy
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because this 
didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is getting 
slowly worse.
Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning.
The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly toward 
the can.
The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the can.
HTH,
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco 
mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.

I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
wanted to know.

So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of
the reviews.

Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile contenders?

Thanks for any help.

Joe

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RE: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread Larry Lumpkin
We’re both blind and couldn’t live without our id mate sumit.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.

I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kathy Kalaluhi
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
announce a product name. 

 

 

Kathy

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because this 
didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is getting 
slowly worse. 

Lelia 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning. 

The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly toward 
the can.

The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the can.

HTH,

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.

I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
wanted to know.

So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of
the reviews.

Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile contenders?

Thanks for any help.

Joe

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RE: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
Indeed, the faster to tone, the closer you are to the code and triggering the 
actual scan. While it does come in handy, there are often moments of 
frustration where it simply wont’ work. Tradeoffs for using a free app instead 
of a dedicated device made specifically for this purpose.

I’ve contemplated getting an ID Mate, but doubt I’d use it enough to warrant 
the cost. My better half is sighted and I’ve always got my iPhone on me, so of 
course every situation is going to be different.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Product Recognition

 

You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kathy Kalaluhi
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
announce a product name. 

 

 

Kathy

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because this 
didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is getting 
slowly worse. 

Lelia 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning. 

The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly toward 
the can.

The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the can.

HTH,

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.

I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
wanted to know.

So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of
the reviews.

Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile contenders?

Thanks for any help.

Joe

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RE: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread Larry Lumpkin
You have to wait for very fast beeps or a solid tone, I can’t remember which 
just now. I don’t think phone apps do very well with bar codes. We have an id 
mate summit which is terrific.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Kalaluhi
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Product Recognition

 

I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
announce a product name. 

 

 

Kathy

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because this 
didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is getting 
slowly worse. 

Lelia 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning. 

The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly toward 
the can.

The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the can.

HTH,

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.

I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
wanted to know.

So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of
the reviews.

Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile contenders?

Thanks for any help.

Joe

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Re: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread Kathy Kalaluhi
I am also having problems. It beeps when it detects a bar code but does not 
announce a product name. 


Kathy

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> On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> 
> Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
> as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because 
> this didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is 
> getting slowly worse. 
> 
> Lelia 
> 
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>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning.
>> The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly 
>> toward the can.
>> The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the 
>> can.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
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>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
>>> can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
>>> could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
>>> lot of nothin'.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.
>>> 
>>> I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
>>> were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
>>> wanted to know.
>>> 
>>> So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
>>> Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of
>>> the reviews.
>>> 
>>> Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile contenders?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>> 
>>> Joe
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Re: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread Lelia Struve
Hi there, I too have been having issues with soup cans and other cans as well 
as other packages. I am thinking of writing the developer somehow because this 
didn’t used to be this way. I had no trouble finding barcodes but it is getting 
slowly worse. 

Lelia 

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> On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning.
> The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly 
> toward the can.
> The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the 
> can.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
> 
> 
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
>> can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
>> could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
>> lot of nothin'.
>> 
>> Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.
>> 
>> I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
>> were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
>> wanted to know.
>> 
>> So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
>> Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of
>> the reviews.
>> 
>> Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile contenders?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> Joe
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Re: Product Recognition

2019-04-02 Thread Richard Turner

i just used Seeing AI to recognize 5 different boxes of tea this morning.
The trick is to start a good 12 inches away from the can and move slowly toward 
the can.
The bar code is usually near the seam of the label on the lower half of the can.
HTH,
Richard



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any." -- Alice Walker


On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Joe Orozco 
mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I tried using Seeing AI last night to recognize the bar code on a soup
can. No luck. I turned the can every which way, but whereas before I
could get some sort of a bleep from the app, last night I got a whole
lot of nothin'.

Yes, I'm aware this could be a matter of the user being a little ... slow.

I tried using short text, and while more successful, the mixed results
were more annoying than helpful and still didn't really tell me what I
wanted to know.

So, has anyone found a good bar code reader app? I looked at Digit
Eyes on the app store, but it seemed outdated based on the history of
the reviews.

Other than Be My Eyes or AIRA, are there any other worthwhile contenders?

Thanks for any help.

Joe

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