Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
I don't have a braille bluetooth device myself, but from what I've read on list, it sounds to me like the braille support is provided by Apple, which I think would frustrate me a bit. Sure the consistency is nice if I'm jumping from braille device to braille device, but the fact that I couldn't take advantage of the features unique to my device would be annoying. I'd easily put up with the inconvenience of having to learn some new commands if I could take advantage of more advanced features in each device and not settle for the lowest common denominator. If Android opened up these more advanced features then I'd consider that pretty beautiful. On 05/07/2015 01:32 PM, Scott Davert wrote: That's correct, Wayne. One of the beauties of iOS over Android for sure. Scott On 5/7/15, Wayne Merritt wrote: This is a general observation: It seems like the Braille commands are the same no matter which display is being used. Certain displays may have hardware controls, like the Focus series or the Braille Edge, but even if you have no hardware buttons on your display, you should be able to perform most actions/gestures with the universal Braille commands. In other words, if I learn the commands to use my Focus 14 Blue display with the iPhone, I can then pick up a display from a different manufacturer and use the same Braille commands. Best, Wayne On 5/5/15, Scott Davert wrote: Hello. The Edge and the Braille sense have different function keys which also perform different functions when connected to an iDevice. On the edge, the 4 rectangular buttons to the right of the space bar will allow you to navigate pages. Use space with K to learn which one does which, and space with b to exit the help system in iOS. The function keys on the braille sense products do not scroll pages, you would need to use the braille keyboard commands. I'm not quite sure which does which in the Focus, though I'm sure the manual has that info. Scott On 5/4/15, Teresa Cochran wrote: I have an older model of the Focus Blue, and it doesn't have a keyboard-locking feature. I'd forgotten about that. Someone can probably tell you how to unlock the keyboard. HtH, Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On May 4, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: If you want to type in a text field, just find the area that says "ed txt" and use the router key above those characters. Then start Brailling. HtH, Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On May 4, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Melissa Tucker wrote: I understand all of that, but how do you activate the braille keyboard on the focus so you can type with it? On May 4, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hello. I have the 40-cell model from Freedom and here is what I can say. Along the front panel, there are two keys on the extreme left and extreme right. These have arrow shapes or tactile markings. These are pan left and right respectively. This is the same as space-dot-2 and space-dot-5. Then as you move in toward the center you will find rocker keys. These are for scrolling the page. One of them is for left/right page scrolls, like on the home screen. The other is for up/down page scrfolls, like a web page or email. I forget which is which at the moment. Then as yu continue to go toward the center you will find two buttons with an indented center. Your finger pad will easily go here. The left one is for escape, which is the same as space-b. The right one is for play/pause. This is the same as a 2-finger double-tap. Then right in the middle are the 2 most center buttons. These are only used as shift keys when you are in 8-dot mode. So, if you want a capital L, you would press one of these keys p[lus dots-1-2-3. I hope this helps. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer "Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be." - David Thornburg Voice/Text: 832.554.7285 Email: r...@raulgallegos.com.no.spam Twitter: www.twitter.com/rau47 Web: www.raulgallegos.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Tucker Sent: May 03, 2015 8:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display I got my focus 40 about two weeks ago and after reading the manual, I can't figure out a couple of things. this is related to using it on an iphone 5s. I'd like to know what the two center buttons on the front beside the scroll left and right buttons are used for in navigating the iphone? Also, how do you activate the focus keyboard. Lastly, I'd like to be able to auto scroll through a book so the lines will come up and I can read with my hands without having to scroll with buttons. I know you can set the phone to read an entire screen with comand control+option+a, but it scrolls too fast. Is there a functions in settings, or an app to slow this down a tad? I do
RE: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
Wayne, correct. All corded commands, that is, commands with the space bar will be the same no matter which display you use. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” – David Thornburg Voice/Text: 832.554.7285 Email: r...@raulgallegos.com.no.spam Twitter: www.twitter.com/rau47 Web: www.raulgallegos.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: May 07, 2015 11:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display This is a general observation: It seems like the Braille commands are the same no matter which display is being used. Certain displays may have hardware controls, like the Focus series or the Braille Edge, but even if you have no hardware buttons on your display, you should be able to perform most actions/gestures with the universal Braille commands. In other words, if I learn the commands to use my Focus 14 Blue display with the iPhone, I can then pick up a display from a different manufacturer and use the same Braille commands. Best, Wayne On 5/5/15, Scott Davert wrote: > Hello. > The Edge and the Braille sense have different function keys which also > perform different functions when connected to an iDevice. On the edge, > the 4 rectangular buttons to the right of the space bar will allow > you to navigate pages. Use space with K to learn which one does which, > and space with b to exit the help system in iOS. The function keys on > the braille sense products do not scroll pages, you would need to use > the braille keyboard commands. I'm not quite sure which does which in > the Focus, though I'm sure the manual has that info. > > Scott > > On 5/4/15, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> I have an older model of the Focus Blue, and it doesn't have a >> keyboard-locking feature. I'd forgotten about that. Someone can >> probably tell you how to unlock the keyboard. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> Winging its way from my iPod >> >>> On May 4, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> >>> If you want to type in a text field, just find the area that says >>> "ed txt" >>> and use the router key above those characters. Then start Brailling. >>> >>> HtH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> Winging its way from my iPod >>> >>>> On May 4, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Melissa Tucker >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I understand all of that, but how do you activate the braille >>>> keyboard on the focus so you can type with it? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 4, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Raul A. Gallegos >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello. I have the 40-cell model from Freedom and here is what I can >>>> say. >>>> >>>> Along the front panel, there are two keys on the extreme left and >>>> extreme right. These have arrow shapes or tactile markings. These >>>> are pan left and right respectively. This is the same as >>>> space-dot-2 and space-dot-5. >>>> Then as you move in toward the center you will find rocker keys. >>>> These are for scrolling the page. One of them is for left/right >>>> page scrolls, like on the home screen. The other is for up/down >>>> page scrfolls, like a web page or email. I forget which is which at >>>> the moment. Then as yu continue to go toward the center you will >>>> find two buttons with an indented center. Your finger pad will >>>> easily go here. The left one is for escape, which is the same as >>>> space-b. The right one is for play/pause. >>>> This is the same as a 2-finger double-tap. Then right in the middle >>>> are the 2 most center buttons. These are only used as shift keys >>>> when you are in 8-dot mode. So, if you want a capital L, you would >>>> press one of these keys p[lus dots-1-2-3. I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Raul A. Gallegos >>>> Assistive Technology Trainer >>>> "Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be." >>>> - David Thornburg >>>> >>>> Voice/Text: 832.554.7285 >>>> Email: r...@raulgallegos.com.no.spam >>>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/rau47 >>>> Web: www.raulgallegos.com >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
That's correct, Wayne. One of the beauties of iOS over Android for sure. Scott On 5/7/15, Wayne Merritt wrote: > This is a general observation: It seems like the Braille commands are > the same no matter which display is being used. Certain displays may > have hardware controls, like the Focus series or the Braille Edge, but > even if you have no hardware buttons on your display, you should be > able to perform most actions/gestures with the universal Braille > commands. In other words, if I learn the commands to use my Focus 14 > Blue display with the iPhone, I can then pick up a display from a > different manufacturer and use the same Braille commands. > > Best, > Wayne > > On 5/5/15, Scott Davert wrote: >> Hello. >> The Edge and the Braille sense have different function keys which also >> perform different functions when connected to an iDevice. On the >> edge, the 4 rectangular buttons to the right of the space bar will >> allow you to navigate pages. Use space with K to learn which one does >> which, and space with b to exit the help system in iOS. The function >> keys on the braille sense products do not scroll pages, you would >> need to use the braille keyboard commands. I'm not quite sure which >> does which in the Focus, though I'm sure the manual has that info. >> >> Scott >> >> On 5/4/15, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> I have an older model of the Focus Blue, and it doesn't have a >>> keyboard-locking feature. I'd forgotten about that. Someone can probably >>> tell you how to unlock the keyboard. >>> >>> HtH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> Winging its way from my iPod >>> >>>> On May 4, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>> >>>> If you want to type in a text field, just find the area that says "ed >>>> txt" >>>> and use the router key above those characters. Then start Brailling. >>>> >>>> HtH, >>>> Teresa >>>> >>>> Winging its way from my iPod >>>> >>>>> On May 4, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Melissa Tucker >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I understand all of that, but how do you activate the braille keyboard >>>>> on >>>>> the focus so you can type with it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 4, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Raul A. Gallegos >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello. I have the 40-cell model from Freedom and here is what I can >>>>> say. >>>>> >>>>> Along the front panel, there are two keys on the extreme left and >>>>> extreme >>>>> right. These have arrow shapes or tactile markings. These are pan left >>>>> and right respectively. This is the same as space-dot-2 and >>>>> space-dot-5. >>>>> Then as you move in toward the center you will find rocker keys. These >>>>> are for scrolling the page. One of them is for left/right page >>>>> scrolls, >>>>> like on the home screen. The other is for up/down page scrfolls, like >>>>> a >>>>> web page or email. I forget which is which at the moment. Then as yu >>>>> continue to go toward the center you will find two buttons with an >>>>> indented center. Your finger pad will easily go here. The left one is >>>>> for >>>>> escape, which is the same as space-b. The right one is for play/pause. >>>>> This is the same as a 2-finger double-tap. Then right in the middle >>>>> are >>>>> the 2 most center buttons. These are only used as shift keys when you >>>>> are >>>>> in 8-dot mode. So, if you want a capital L, you would press one of >>>>> these >>>>> keys p[lus dots-1-2-3. I hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Raul A. Gallegos >>>>> Assistive Technology Trainer >>>>> "Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be." - >>>>> David Thornburg >>>>> >>>>> Voice/Text: 832.554.7285 >>>>> Email: r...@raulgallegos.com.no.spam >>>>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/rau47 >>>>> Web: www.raulgallegos.com >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of Melissa Tucker &
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
This is a general observation: It seems like the Braille commands are the same no matter which display is being used. Certain displays may have hardware controls, like the Focus series or the Braille Edge, but even if you have no hardware buttons on your display, you should be able to perform most actions/gestures with the universal Braille commands. In other words, if I learn the commands to use my Focus 14 Blue display with the iPhone, I can then pick up a display from a different manufacturer and use the same Braille commands. Best, Wayne On 5/5/15, Scott Davert wrote: > Hello. > The Edge and the Braille sense have different function keys which also > perform different functions when connected to an iDevice. On the > edge, the 4 rectangular buttons to the right of the space bar will > allow you to navigate pages. Use space with K to learn which one does > which, and space with b to exit the help system in iOS. The function > keys on the braille sense products do not scroll pages, you would > need to use the braille keyboard commands. I'm not quite sure which > does which in the Focus, though I'm sure the manual has that info. > > Scott > > On 5/4/15, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> I have an older model of the Focus Blue, and it doesn't have a >> keyboard-locking feature. I'd forgotten about that. Someone can probably >> tell you how to unlock the keyboard. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> Winging its way from my iPod >> >>> On May 4, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> >>> If you want to type in a text field, just find the area that says "ed >>> txt" >>> and use the router key above those characters. Then start Brailling. >>> >>> HtH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> Winging its way from my iPod >>> >>>> On May 4, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Melissa Tucker >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I understand all of that, but how do you activate the braille keyboard >>>> on >>>> the focus so you can type with it? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 4, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Raul A. Gallegos >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello. I have the 40-cell model from Freedom and here is what I can >>>> say. >>>> >>>> Along the front panel, there are two keys on the extreme left and >>>> extreme >>>> right. These have arrow shapes or tactile markings. These are pan left >>>> and right respectively. This is the same as space-dot-2 and >>>> space-dot-5. >>>> Then as you move in toward the center you will find rocker keys. These >>>> are for scrolling the page. One of them is for left/right page scrolls, >>>> like on the home screen. The other is for up/down page scrfolls, like a >>>> web page or email. I forget which is which at the moment. Then as yu >>>> continue to go toward the center you will find two buttons with an >>>> indented center. Your finger pad will easily go here. The left one is >>>> for >>>> escape, which is the same as space-b. The right one is for play/pause. >>>> This is the same as a 2-finger double-tap. Then right in the middle are >>>> the 2 most center buttons. These are only used as shift keys when you >>>> are >>>> in 8-dot mode. So, if you want a capital L, you would press one of >>>> these >>>> keys p[lus dots-1-2-3. I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Raul A. Gallegos >>>> Assistive Technology Trainer >>>> "Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be." - >>>> David Thornburg >>>> >>>> Voice/Text: 832.554.7285 >>>> Email: r...@raulgallegos.com.no.spam >>>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/rau47 >>>> Web: www.raulgallegos.com >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Melissa Tucker >>>> Sent: May 03, 2015 8:03 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display >>>> >>>> I got my focus 40 about two weeks ago and after reading the manual, I >>>> can't figure out a couple of things. this is related to using it on an >>>> iphone 5s. I'd like to know what the two center buttons on the front >>>> beside the scroll left and right buttons are used for in navigating the >>>> i
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
Hello. The Edge and the Braille sense have different function keys which also perform different functions when connected to an iDevice. On the edge, the 4 rectangular buttons to the right of the space bar will allow you to navigate pages. Use space with K to learn which one does which, and space with b to exit the help system in iOS. The function keys on the braille sense products do not scroll pages, you would need to use the braille keyboard commands. I'm not quite sure which does which in the Focus, though I'm sure the manual has that info. Scott On 5/4/15, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I have an older model of the Focus Blue, and it doesn't have a > keyboard-locking feature. I'd forgotten about that. Someone can probably > tell you how to unlock the keyboard. > > HtH, > Teresa > > Winging its way from my iPod > >> On May 4, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >> If you want to type in a text field, just find the area that says "ed txt" >> and use the router key above those characters. Then start Brailling. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> Winging its way from my iPod >> >>> On May 4, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Melissa Tucker >>> wrote: >>> >>> I understand all of that, but how do you activate the braille keyboard on >>> the focus so you can type with it? >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 4, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Raul A. Gallegos >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello. I have the 40-cell model from Freedom and here is what I can say. >>> >>> Along the front panel, there are two keys on the extreme left and extreme >>> right. These have arrow shapes or tactile markings. These are pan left >>> and right respectively. This is the same as space-dot-2 and space-dot-5. >>> Then as you move in toward the center you will find rocker keys. These >>> are for scrolling the page. One of them is for left/right page scrolls, >>> like on the home screen. The other is for up/down page scrfolls, like a >>> web page or email. I forget which is which at the moment. Then as yu >>> continue to go toward the center you will find two buttons with an >>> indented center. Your finger pad will easily go here. The left one is for >>> escape, which is the same as space-b. The right one is for play/pause. >>> This is the same as a 2-finger double-tap. Then right in the middle are >>> the 2 most center buttons. These are only used as shift keys when you are >>> in 8-dot mode. So, if you want a capital L, you would press one of these >>> keys p[lus dots-1-2-3. I hope this helps. >>> >>> -- >>> Raul A. Gallegos >>> Assistive Technology Trainer >>> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” – >>> David Thornburg >>> >>> Voice/Text: 832.554.7285 >>> Email: r...@raulgallegos.com.no.spam >>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/rau47 >>> Web: www.raulgallegos.com >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Melissa Tucker >>> Sent: May 03, 2015 8:03 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display >>> >>> I got my focus 40 about two weeks ago and after reading the manual, I >>> can't figure out a couple of things. this is related to using it on an >>> iphone 5s. I'd like to know what the two center buttons on the front >>> beside the scroll left and right buttons are used for in navigating the >>> iphone? Also, how do you activate the focus keyboard. Lastly, I'd like >>> to be able to auto scroll through a book so the lines will come up and I >>> can read with my hands without having to scroll with buttons. I know you >>> can set the phone to read an entire screen with comand control+option+a, >>> but it scrolls too fast. Is there a functions in settings, or an app to >>> slow this down a tad? I doubt what I'm asking is possible, but just >>> wondering. Is there a focus blue group I can go to without having to bug >>> you all with this? >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >>> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >>> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itse
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
I have an older model of the Focus Blue, and it doesn't have a keyboard-locking feature. I'd forgotten about that. Someone can probably tell you how to unlock the keyboard. HtH, Teresa Winging its way from my iPod > On May 4, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > > If you want to type in a text field, just find the area that says "ed txt" > and use the router key above those characters. Then start Brailling. > > HtH, > Teresa > > Winging its way from my iPod > >> On May 4, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Melissa Tucker wrote: >> >> I understand all of that, but how do you activate the braille keyboard on >> the focus so you can type with it? >> >> >> >> On May 4, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: >> >> Hello. I have the 40-cell model from Freedom and here is what I can say. >> >> Along the front panel, there are two keys on the extreme left and extreme >> right. These have arrow shapes or tactile markings. These are pan left and >> right respectively. This is the same as space-dot-2 and space-dot-5. Then as >> you move in toward the center you will find rocker keys. These are for >> scrolling the page. One of them is for left/right page scrolls, like on the >> home screen. The other is for up/down page scrfolls, like a web page or >> email. I forget which is which at the moment. Then as yu continue to go >> toward the center you will find two buttons with an indented center. Your >> finger pad will easily go here. The left one is for escape, which is the >> same as space-b. The right one is for play/pause. This is the same as a >> 2-finger double-tap. Then right in the middle are the 2 most center buttons. >> These are only used as shift keys when you are in 8-dot mode. So, if you >> want a capital L, you would press one of these keys p[lus dots-1-2-3. I hope >> this helps. >> >> -- >> Raul A. Gallegos >> Assistive Technology Trainer >> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” – David >> Thornburg >> >> Voice/Text: 832.554.7285 >> Email: r...@raulgallegos.com.no.spam >> Twitter: www.twitter.com/rau47 >> Web: www.raulgallegos.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Melissa Tucker >> Sent: May 03, 2015 8:03 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display >> >> I got my focus 40 about two weeks ago and after reading the manual, I can't >> figure out a couple of things. this is related to using it on an iphone 5s. >> I'd like to know what the two center buttons on the front beside the scroll >> left and right buttons are used for in navigating the iphone? Also, how do >> you activate the focus keyboard. Lastly, I'd like to be able to auto scroll >> through a book so the lines will come up and I can read with my hands >> without having to scroll with buttons. I know you can set the phone to read >> an entire screen with comand control+option+a, but it scrolls too fast. Is >> there a functions in settings, or an app to slow this down a tad? I doubt >> what I'm asking is possible, but just wondering. Is there a focus blue >> group I can go to without having to bug you all with this? >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate,
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
If you want to type in a text field, just find the area that says "ed txt" and use the router key above those characters. Then start Brailling. HtH, Teresa Winging its way from my iPod > On May 4, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Melissa Tucker wrote: > > I understand all of that, but how do you activate the braille keyboard on the > focus so you can type with it? > > > > On May 4, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > > Hello. I have the 40-cell model from Freedom and here is what I can say. > > Along the front panel, there are two keys on the extreme left and extreme > right. These have arrow shapes or tactile markings. These are pan left and > right respectively. This is the same as space-dot-2 and space-dot-5. Then as > you move in toward the center you will find rocker keys. These are for > scrolling the page. One of them is for left/right page scrolls, like on the > home screen. The other is for up/down page scrfolls, like a web page or > email. I forget which is which at the moment. Then as yu continue to go > toward the center you will find two buttons with an indented center. Your > finger pad will easily go here. The left one is for escape, which is the same > as space-b. The right one is for play/pause. This is the same as a 2-finger > double-tap. Then right in the middle are the 2 most center buttons. These are > only used as shift keys when you are in 8-dot mode. So, if you want a capital > L, you would press one of these keys p[lus dots-1-2-3. I hope this helps. > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > Assistive Technology Trainer > “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” – David > Thornburg > > Voice/Text: 832.554.7285 > Email: r...@raulgallegos.com.no.spam > Twitter: www.twitter.com/rau47 > Web: www.raulgallegos.com > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Melissa Tucker > Sent: May 03, 2015 8:03 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display > > I got my focus 40 about two weeks ago and after reading the manual, I can't > figure out a couple of things. this is related to using it on an iphone 5s. > I'd like to know what the two center buttons on the front beside the scroll > left and right buttons are used for in navigating the iphone? Also, how do > you activate the focus keyboard. Lastly, I'd like to be able to auto scroll > through a book so the lines will come up and I can read with my hands without > having to scroll with buttons. I know you can set the phone to read an > entire screen with comand control+option+a, but it scrolls too fast. Is > there a functions in settings, or an app to slow this down a tad? I doubt > what I'm asking is possible, but just wondering. Is there a focus blue group > I can go to without having to bug you all with this? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
I understand all of that, but how do you activate the braille keyboard on the focus so you can type with it? On May 4, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hello. I have the 40-cell model from Freedom and here is what I can say. Along the front panel, there are two keys on the extreme left and extreme right. These have arrow shapes or tactile markings. These are pan left and right respectively. This is the same as space-dot-2 and space-dot-5. Then as you move in toward the center you will find rocker keys. These are for scrolling the page. One of them is for left/right page scrolls, like on the home screen. The other is for up/down page scrfolls, like a web page or email. I forget which is which at the moment. Then as yu continue to go toward the center you will find two buttons with an indented center. Your finger pad will easily go here. The left one is for escape, which is the same as space-b. The right one is for play/pause. This is the same as a 2-finger double-tap. Then right in the middle are the 2 most center buttons. These are only used as shift keys when you are in 8-dot mode. So, if you want a capital L, you would press one of these keys p[lus dots-1-2-3. I hope this helps. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” – David Thornburg Voice/Text: 832.554.7285 Email: r...@raulgallegos.com.no.spam Twitter: www.twitter.com/rau47 Web: www.raulgallegos.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Tucker Sent: May 03, 2015 8:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display I got my focus 40 about two weeks ago and after reading the manual, I can't figure out a couple of things. this is related to using it on an iphone 5s. I'd like to know what the two center buttons on the front beside the scroll left and right buttons are used for in navigating the iphone? Also, how do you activate the focus keyboard. Lastly, I'd like to be able to auto scroll through a book so the lines will come up and I can read with my hands without having to scroll with buttons. I know you can set the phone to read an entire screen with comand control+option+a, but it scrolls too fast. Is there a functions in settings, or an app to slow this down a tad? I doubt what I'm asking is possible, but just wondering. Is there a focus blue group I can go to without having to bug you all with this? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr.
RE: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
Hello. I have the 40-cell model from Freedom and here is what I can say. Along the front panel, there are two keys on the extreme left and extreme right. These have arrow shapes or tactile markings. These are pan left and right respectively. This is the same as space-dot-2 and space-dot-5. Then as you move in toward the center you will find rocker keys. These are for scrolling the page. One of them is for left/right page scrolls, like on the home screen. The other is for up/down page scrfolls, like a web page or email. I forget which is which at the moment. Then as yu continue to go toward the center you will find two buttons with an indented center. Your finger pad will easily go here. The left one is for escape, which is the same as space-b. The right one is for play/pause. This is the same as a 2-finger double-tap. Then right in the middle are the 2 most center buttons. These are only used as shift keys when you are in 8-dot mode. So, if you want a capital L, you would press one of these keys p[lus dots-1-2-3. I hope this helps. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” – David Thornburg Voice/Text: 832.554.7285 Email: r...@raulgallegos.com.no.spam Twitter: www.twitter.com/rau47 Web: www.raulgallegos.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Tucker Sent: May 03, 2015 8:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display I got my focus 40 about two weeks ago and after reading the manual, I can't figure out a couple of things. this is related to using it on an iphone 5s. I'd like to know what the two center buttons on the front beside the scroll left and right buttons are used for in navigating the iphone? Also, how do you activate the focus keyboard. Lastly, I'd like to be able to auto scroll through a book so the lines will come up and I can read with my hands without having to scroll with buttons. I know you can set the phone to read an entire screen with comand control+option+a, but it scrolls too fast. Is there a functions in settings, or an app to slow this down a tad? I doubt what I'm asking is possible, but just wondering. Is there a focus blue group I can go to without having to bug you all with this? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
On May 3, 2015, at 9:33 PM, Flor Lynch wrote: AFAIK, those two keys are just shift keys & not used for navigating the phone. Press k-chord on it to have it speak the keys as you press them. B-chord to Back out of VO Help. There's no auto-advance on the Focus with the iPhone. And I know of no way to slow down the on-screen scrolling (except to slow speech down a lot). Even then it'll scroll too fast, so you just have to read as best you can on the Braille display. If the material you're reading is good, you'll enjoy it and get into the rhythm. -Original Message- From: Melissa Tucker Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 2:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display I got my focus 40 about two weeks ago and after reading the manual, I can't figure out a couple of things. this is related to using it on an iphone 5s. I'd like to know what the two center buttons on the front beside the scroll left and right buttons are used for in navigating the iphone? Also, how do you activate the focus keyboard. Lastly, I'd like to be able to auto scroll through a book so the lines will come up and I can read with my hands without having to scroll with buttons. I know you can set the phone to read an entire screen with comand control+option+a, but it scrolls too fast. Is there a functions in settings, or an app to slow this down a tad? I doubt what I'm asking is possible, but just wondering. Is there a focus blue group I can go to without having to bug you all with this? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.Thanks. how do I activate the keyboard on the focus so I can use the cord commands? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
AFAIK, those two keys are just shift keys & not used for navigating the phone. Press k-chord on it to have it speak the keys as you press them. B-chord to Back out of VO Help. There's no auto-advance on the Focus with the iPhone. And I know of no way to slow down the on-screen scrolling (except to slow speech down a lot). Even then it'll scroll too fast, so you just have to read as best you can on the Braille display. If the material you're reading is good, you'll enjoy it and get into the rhythm. -Original Message- From: Melissa Tucker Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 2:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display I got my focus 40 about two weeks ago and after reading the manual, I can't figure out a couple of things. this is related to using it on an iphone 5s. I'd like to know what the two center buttons on the front beside the scroll left and right buttons are used for in navigating the iphone? Also, how do you activate the focus keyboard. Lastly, I'd like to be able to auto scroll through a book so the lines will come up and I can read with my hands without having to scroll with buttons. I know you can set the phone to read an entire screen with comand control+option+a, but it scrolls too fast. Is there a functions in settings, or an app to slow this down a tad? I doubt what I'm asking is possible, but just wondering. Is there a focus blue group I can go to without having to bug you all with this? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
I got my focus 40 about two weeks ago and after reading the manual, I can't figure out a couple of things. this is related to using it on an iphone 5s. I'd like to know what the two center buttons on the front beside the scroll left and right buttons are used for in navigating the iphone? Also, how do you activate the focus keyboard. Lastly, I'd like to be able to auto scroll through a book so the lines will come up and I can read with my hands without having to scroll with buttons. I know you can set the phone to read an entire screen with comand control+option+a, but it scrolls too fast. Is there a functions in settings, or an app to slow this down a tad? I doubt what I'm asking is possible, but just wondering. Is there a focus blue group I can go to without having to bug you all with this? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
On a Focus Blue braille display paired with your iDevice, you'd find them in the VO Help (k-chord) then press the relevant keys to hear/read description of what they do. -Original Message- From: Eden Kizer Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 7:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display Oh I didn't know the focus did that, where can I find the focus commands because I normally use a HIMS braille device which you use the 2 4 6 cchord and the 1 3 5 chord that goes left to right. The 3 4 5 6 chord and 1 4 5 6 chord go up and down according to my manual. Mine is a braille sense on hand, but it should still apply. Eden -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 11:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display I don't have this display, but I do have a Focus 40 Blue with rocker bars. One of them scrolls pages sideways and one scrolls them vertically. If the Edge has something similar, this is quite handy. Sorry I can't be more specific. HtH, Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On May 1, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Flor Lynch wrote: (Both with spacebar.) .) How about: Dots 1-456 +SPACE to scroll down 1 page; and dots 3-456 +SPACE to scroll up 1 page. Page right-and-left is o-chord and ow-chord. That is how it is with the Focus displays. To check: first press dots 1-3 with spacebar, the braille equivalent of VO Help. b+spacebar is the Escape or back key. -Original Message- From: Jim Fettgather Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display Hello. Using the Braille Edge, and attempting to read Bookshare books in read 2 go, you have to be able to scroll up and down, instead of scrolling left to right. I am trying to find out the Braille command to scroll up and down by page, but I can only find a way to scroll left and right. I can find the standard bluetooth keyboard command, option up and option down, but am looking for the braille equivalent. Thanks for any assistance. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moder
RE: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
Oh I didn't know the focus did that, where can I find the focus commands because I normally use a HIMS braille device which you use the 2 4 6 cchord and the 1 3 5 chord that goes left to right. The 3 4 5 6 chord and 1 4 5 6 chord go up and down according to my manual. Mine is a braille sense on hand, but it should still apply. Eden -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 11:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display I don't have this display, but I do have a Focus 40 Blue with rocker bars. One of them scrolls pages sideways and one scrolls them vertically. If the Edge has something similar, this is quite handy. Sorry I can't be more specific. HtH, Teresa Winging its way from my iPod > On May 1, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Flor Lynch wrote: > > (Both with spacebar.) .) > > How about: Dots 1-456 +SPACE to scroll down 1 page; and dots 3-456 > +SPACE to scroll up 1 page. Page right-and-left is o-chord and > ow-chord. That is how it is with the Focus displays. To check: first > press dots > 1-3 with spacebar, the braille equivalent of VO Help. b+spacebar is > the Escape or back key. > > -Original Message- >> From: Jim Fettgather > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:47 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display > > Hello. > Using the Braille Edge, and attempting to read Bookshare books in read > 2 go, you have to be able to scroll up and down, instead of scrolling > left to right. > I am trying to find out the Braille command to scroll up and down by > page, but I can only find a way to scroll left and right. > I can find the standard bluetooth keyboard command, option up and > option down, but am looking for the braille equivalent. > Thanks for any assistance. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have > any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you > feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The > archives for this list can be searched at > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
I don't have this display, but I do have a Focus 40 Blue with rocker bars. One of them scrolls pages sideways and one scrolls them vertically. If the Edge has something similar, this is quite handy. Sorry I can't be more specific. HtH, Teresa Winging its way from my iPod > On May 1, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Flor Lynch wrote: > > (Both with spacebar.) .) > > How about: Dots 1-456 +SPACE to scroll down 1 page; and dots 3-456 +SPACE to > scroll up 1 > page. Page right-and-left is o-chord and ow-chord. That is how it is with the > Focus displays. To check: first press dots > 1-3 with spacebar, the braille equivalent of VO Help. b+spacebar is the > Escape or back key. > > -Original Message- >> From: Jim Fettgather > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:47 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display > > Hello. > Using the Braille Edge, and attempting to read Bookshare books in read 2 go, > you have to be able to scroll up and down, instead of scrolling left to > right. > I am trying to find out the Braille command to scroll up and down by page, > but I can only find a way to scroll left and right. > I can find the standard bluetooth keyboard command, option up and option > down, but am looking for the braille equivalent. > Thanks for any assistance. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
How about: Dots 1-456 to scroll down 1 page; and dots 3-456 to scroll up 1 page. That is how it is with the Focus displays. To check: first press dots 1-3 with spacebar, the braille equivalent of VO Help. b+spacebar is the Escape or back key. -Original Message- From: Jim Fettgather Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display Hello. Using the Braille Edge, and attempting to read Bookshare books in read 2 go, you have to be able to scroll up and down, instead of scrolling left to right. I am trying to find out the Braille command to scroll up and down by page, but I can only find a way to scroll left and right. I can find the standard bluetooth keyboard command, option up and option down, but am looking for the braille equivalent. Thanks for any assistance. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
Braille equivalent for page turning is chord O or chord OW. Hope that helps. That’s chord dots 1 3 5, and chord 2 4 6. Hope that helps. Happy reading. > On May 1, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Jim Fettgather wrote: > > Hello. > Using the Braille Edge, and attempting to read Bookshare books in read 2 go, > you have to be able to scroll up and down, instead of scrolling left to right. > I am trying to find out the Braille command to scroll up and down by page, > but I can only find a way to scroll left and right. > I can find the standard bluetooth keyboard command, option up and option > down, but am looking for the braille equivalent. > Thanks for any assistance. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display
Try the number sign chord and the backwards number sign chord, that might work. Eden -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Fettgather Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Scrolling up and down with Bluetooth Braille Display Hello. Using the Braille Edge, and attempting to read Bookshare books in read 2 go, you have to be able to scroll up and down, instead of scrolling left to right. I am trying to find out the Braille command to scroll up and down by page, but I can only find a way to scroll left and right. I can find the standard bluetooth keyboard command, option up and option down, but am looking for the braille equivalent. Thanks for any assistance. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
