Re: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too
Interesting, but think you are preaching to the converted a bit as most here are blind, use iPad/pod/phones and some also teach the devices to ther blind. Thanks though, Rh. - Original Message - From: Avnish Chopra sen...@gmail.com To: ViPhone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:53 AM Subject: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too Ubergizmo The blind might not be the original target market for the folks over at Apple with the hugely successful iPad tablet in the first place, but this does not mean that with a little bit of training, some perseverance, as well as the right kind of software in place, the blind as well as visually impaired folks too, are able to take advantage of this popular tablet device. As you can check out in the video above from Bloomberg, Jon Erlichman from the same company participated in a workshop that actually helps instruct teachers on how one is able to unlock the power of the iPad for the visually impaired. This is definitely a heart warming video, as we see barriers being broken down thanks to the wonders of modern technology. I wonder whether similar training concepts and ideas can be incorporated so that those who want to use tablets on the Android platform will not feel left out of the equation. By Ubergizmo http://www.ubergizmo.com. *Related articles*: Logitech Keyboard Folio for iPad and iPad minihttp://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/03/logitech-keyboard-folio-for-ipad-and-ipad-mini/., Apple Adds 'Offers In-App Purchases' Warning To App Store Descriptionshttp://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/03/apple-adds-offers-in-app-purchases-warning-to-app-store-descriptions/., http://da.feedsportal.com/r/161770415161/u/49/f/641192/c/34785/s/29fcf66b/a2.htm http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/ubergizmo?a=HdrXT1aV3tk:UPOFPn6PQaU:qj6IDK7rITs http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/ubergizmo?a=HdrXT1aV3tk:UPOFPn6PQaU:gIN9vFwOqvQ http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/ubergizmo?a=HdrXT1aV3tk:UPOFPn6PQaU:V_sGLiPBpWU Original Article: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/03/the-blind-have-use-for-an-ipad-too/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too
I am interested in your train of thought, could you go a step or two further in your thinking or what you know. I have often thought about why a person who is blind might want to use an iPad however beyond the dexterity considerations I don't see any particular advantage unless one is visually impaired thusly the letters and icons would be larger. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Avnish Chopra To: ViPhone Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:53 AM Subject: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too Ubergizmo The blind might not be the original target market for the folks over at Apple with the hugely successful iPad tablet in the first place, but this does not mean that with a little bit of training, some perseverance, as well as the right kind of software in place, the blind as well as visually impaired folks too, are able to take advantage of this popular tablet device. As you can check out in the video above from Bloomberg, Jon Erlichman from the same company participated in a workshop that actually helps instruct teachers on how one is able to unlock the power of the iPad for the visually impaired. This is definitely a heart warming video, as we see barriers being broken down thanks to the wonders of modern technology. I wonder whether similar training concepts and ideas can be incorporated so that those who want to use tablets on the Android platform will not feel left out of the equation. By Ubergizmo. Related articles: Logitech Keyboard Folio for iPad and iPad mini, Apple Adds 'Offers In-App Purchases' Warning To App Store Descriptions, Original Article: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/03/the-blind-have-use-for-an-ipad-too/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6205 - Release Date: 03/26/13 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too
I think the larger size of the iPad would be a hindrance. I'm fairly good at grasping spatial layouts, but even on the small screen of the iPhone, I still can't reliably tap the icon I want and I'm still not even close to accurate when it comes to using the on screen keyboard. I can hear where I am and adjust my finger accordingly, but it's still not as smooth as I'd like it. I think having a larger area to navigate would make this process a bit harder because there's more space to cover. I'd still like to check out an iPad, though. Lisa hindrance, at l The 2 most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and Bull-Crap Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com - Original Message - From: Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:31 AM Subject: Re: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too I am interested in your train of thought, could you go a step or two further in your thinking or what you know. I have often thought about why a person who is blind might want to use an iPad however beyond the dexterity considerations I don't see any particular advantage unless one is visually impaired thusly the letters and icons would be larger. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Avnish Chopra To: ViPhone Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:53 AM Subject: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too Ubergizmo The blind might not be the original target market for the folks over at Apple with the hugely successful iPad tablet in the first place, but this does not mean that with a little bit of training, some perseverance, as well as the right kind of software in place, the blind as well as visually impaired folks too, are able to take advantage of this popular tablet device. As you can check out in the video above from Bloomberg, Jon Erlichman from the same company participated in a workshop that actually helps instruct teachers on how one is able to unlock the power of the iPad for the visually impaired. This is definitely a heart warming video, as we see barriers being broken down thanks to the wonders of modern technology. I wonder whether similar training concepts and ideas can be incorporated so that those who want to use tablets on the Android platform will not feel left out of the equation. By Ubergizmo. Related articles: Logitech Keyboard Folio for iPad and iPad mini, Apple Adds 'Offers In-App Purchases' Warning To App Store Descriptions, Original Article: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/03/the-blind-have-use-for-an-ipad-too/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6205 - Release Date: 03/26/13 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too
I'm going to chime in here, and I am also going to forward this on to some folks, for a few reasons. The biggest of couse is, that yes blind people can use an iPad and it does have a place and it goes beyond the dexterity issues you mentioned in your message. It may be a little bigger than an iPhone especially if you don't have an iPad mini but along with the extra real estate as it were, some apps give you more features and ways to interact on a bigger screen and the app developers make some of their apps take advantage of that size. Voiceover works a little differently on the iPad than it does on the phone, the basics are the same but some of the interaction is different in double tapping, holding, swiping, you have more room to do b igger gestures a four finger swipe for instance to bring up the app switcher, moving through emails and texts by container instead of just headings which moves you from section to section, etc. I could go on and on, but those are just a few ideas and things but an example of an app that works so much differently and better on the iPad, is of course the sirius Xm app. This app, on the phone is workable but a little different. On the iPad all your channel information is displayed, you can move through the channels without searching for certain areas on the screen, and you can get to things more quickly than on the phone. iBooks read differently than on the phone your pages are bigger. If you use a braille display this makes a difference because you're not having to advance page by page as quickly. I hope this helps and hope this might clear some thigns up but the iPad does work for blind people, can be used for pleasure as well as business and depending on the need can fit righ in with some of the best accessibility out there. I am a regional librarian for the Blind here in Alabama, and work with the braille collection as well as the technology and alternative reading methods and I teach classes, and give instruction on the iPad a lot and can tell you it makes a difference in those that use it, for some they would rather have it than the iPhone or the iPod. I hope this helps and if you have any comments let me know. Thanks and take care. On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Fred Olver wrote: I am interested in your train of thought, could you go a step or two further in your thinking or what you know. I have often thought about why a person who is blind might want to use an iPad however beyond the dexterity considerations I don't see any particular advantage unless one is visually impaired thusly the letters and icons would be larger. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Avnish Chopra To: ViPhone Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:53 AM Subject: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too Ubergizmo The blind might not be the original target market for the folks over at Apple with the hugely successful iPad tablet in the first place, but this does not mean that with a little bit of training, some perseverance, as well as the right kind of software in place, the blind as well as visually impaired folks too, are able to take advantage of this popular tablet device. As you can check out in the video above from Bloomberg, Jon Erlichman from the same company participated in a workshop that actually helps instruct teachers on how one is able to unlock the power of the iPad for the visually impaired. This is definitely a heart warming video, as we see barriers being broken down thanks to the wonders of modern technology. I wonder whether similar training concepts and ideas can be incorporated so that those who want to use tablets on the Android platform will not feel left out of the equation. By Ubergizmo. Related articles: Logitech Keyboard Folio for iPad and iPad mini, Apple Adds 'Offers In-App Purchases' Warning To App Store Descriptions, Original Article: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/03/the-blind-have-use-for-an-ipad-too/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6205 - Release Date: 03/26/13 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone
Re: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too
Hi. Typing on the iPad is a good deal easier than on the smaller devices, at least in my experience. Also, there is an argument to be made that the iPad is easier for teachers to work with when teaching some concept or other than the smaller screen of the iPhone. Other than that, for the totally blind user, I see no significant advantage. I also think there are disadvantages, the iPad is larger, a bit more of a battery hog, etc. I had to make a choice between the iPad, iPad mini, and iPod, and chose the latter for size and battery reasons. With a 3G router, it doesn't matter whether the unit has access to the cellular network or not, in my view. Aman On 3/27/13, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote: I am interested in your train of thought, could you go a step or two further in your thinking or what you know. I have often thought about why a person who is blind might want to use an iPad however beyond the dexterity considerations I don't see any particular advantage unless one is visually impaired thusly the letters and icons would be larger. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Avnish Chopra To: ViPhone Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:53 AM Subject: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too Ubergizmo The blind might not be the original target market for the folks over at Apple with the hugely successful iPad tablet in the first place, but this does not mean that with a little bit of training, some perseverance, as well as the right kind of software in place, the blind as well as visually impaired folks too, are able to take advantage of this popular tablet device. As you can check out in the video above from Bloomberg, Jon Erlichman from the same company participated in a workshop that actually helps instruct teachers on how one is able to unlock the power of the iPad for the visually impaired. This is definitely a heart warming video, as we see barriers being broken down thanks to the wonders of modern technology. I wonder whether similar training concepts and ideas can be incorporated so that those who want to use tablets on the Android platform will not feel left out of the equation. By Ubergizmo. Related articles: Logitech Keyboard Folio for iPad and iPad mini, Apple Adds 'Offers In-App Purchases' Warning To App Store Descriptions, Original Article: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/03/the-blind-have-use-for-an-ipad-too/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6205 - Release Date: 03/26/13 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too
Tim, Thanks for your comments they are just what I am looking for. Information on ways that iPads can be used which are different than the iPhone. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Timothy Emmons To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:43 AM Subject: Re: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too I'm going to chime in here, and I am also going to forward this on to some folks, for a few reasons. The biggest of couse is, that yes blind people can use an iPad and it does have a place and it goes beyond the dexterity issues you mentioned in your message. It may be a little bigger than an iPhone especially if you don't have an iPad mini but along with the extra real estate as it were, some apps give you more features and ways to interact on a bigger screen and the app developers make some of their apps take advantage of that size. Voiceover works a little differently on the iPad than it does on the phone, the basics are the same but some of the interaction is different in double tapping, holding, swiping, you have more room to do b igger gestures a four finger swipe for instance to bring up the app switcher, moving through emails and texts by container instead of just headings which moves you from section to section, etc. I could go on and on, but those are just a few ideas and things but an example of an app that works so much differently and better on the iPad, is of course the sirius Xm app. This app, on the phone is workable but a little different. On the iPad all your channel information is displayed, you can move through the channels without searching for certain areas on the screen, and you can get to things more quickly than on the phone. iBooks read differently than on the phone your pages are bigger. If you use a braille display this makes a difference because you're not having to advance page by page as quickly. I hope this helps and hope this might clear some thigns up but the iPad does work for blind people, can be used for pleasure as well as business and depending on the need can fit righ in with some of the best accessibility out there. I am a regional librarian for the Blind here in Alabama, and work with the braille collection as well as the technology and alternative reading methods and I teach classes, and give instruction on the iPad a lot and can tell you it makes a difference in those that use it, for some they would rather have it than the iPhone or the iPod. I hope this helps and if you have any comments let me know. Thanks and take care. On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Fred Olver wrote: I am interested in your train of thought, could you go a step or two further in your thinking or what you know. I have often thought about why a person who is blind might want to use an iPad however beyond the dexterity considerations I don't see any particular advantage unless one is visually impaired thusly the letters and icons would be larger. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Avnish Chopra To: ViPhone Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:53 AM Subject: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too Ubergizmo The blind might not be the original target market for the folks over at Apple with the hugely successful iPad tablet in the first place, but this does not mean that with a little bit of training, some perseverance, as well as the right kind of software in place, the blind as well as visually impaired folks too, are able to take advantage of this popular tablet device. As you can check out in the video above from Bloomberg, Jon Erlichman from the same company participated in a workshop that actually helps instruct teachers on how one is able to unlock the power of the iPad for the visually impaired. This is definitely a heart warming video, as we see barriers being broken down thanks to the wonders of modern technology. I wonder whether similar training concepts and ideas can be incorporated so that those who want to use tablets on the Android platform will not feel left out of the equation. By Ubergizmo. Related articles: Logitech Keyboard Folio for iPad and iPad mini, Apple Adds 'Offers In-App Purchases' Warning To App Store Descriptions, Original Article: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/03/the-blind-have-use-for-an-ipad-too/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6205 - Release Date: 03/26/13 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Re: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too
Hello, Timothy. I would respectfully disagree that any of the things you note below have to do with the iPad except for container movement. All the rest are due to companies not properly putting accessibility into their applications. If SXM properly made their products accessible, there wouldn't be an issue in navigation, and if Apple allowed iBooks to have pages turned by the scrolling of a braille display, the largeness of the pages wouldn't matter. Personally, I like typing on the iPad and actually like the size/shape of the product for certain functions, and it can definitely be used by blind people, but the things you specifically mention are problems in access on the iDevices, not advantages of the iPad. Aman On 3/27/13, Timothy Emmons temmo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to chime in here, and I am also going to forward this on to some folks, for a few reasons. The biggest of couse is, that yes blind people can use an iPad and it does have a place and it goes beyond the dexterity issues you mentioned in your message. It may be a little bigger than an iPhone especially if you don't have an iPad mini but along with the extra real estate as it were, some apps give you more features and ways to interact on a bigger screen and the app developers make some of their apps take advantage of that size. Voiceover works a little differently on the iPad than it does on the phone, the basics are the same but some of the interaction is different in double tapping, holding, swiping, you have more room to do b igger gestures a four finger swipe for instance to bring up the app switcher, moving through emails and texts by container instead of just headings which moves you from section to section, etc. I could go on and on, but those are just a few ideas and things but an example of an app that works so much differently and better on the iPad, is of course the sirius Xm app. This app, on the phone is workable but a little different. On the iPad all your channel information is displayed, you can move through the channels without searching for certain areas on the screen, and you can get to things more quickly than on the phone. iBooks read differently than on the phone your pages are bigger. If you use a braille display this makes a difference because you're not having to advance page by page as quickly. I hope this helps and hope this might clear some thigns up but the iPad does work for blind people, can be used for pleasure as well as business and depending on the need can fit righ in with some of the best accessibility out there. I am a regional librarian for the Blind here in Alabama, and work with the braille collection as well as the technology and alternative reading methods and I teach classes, and give instruction on the iPad a lot and can tell you it makes a difference in those that use it, for some they would rather have it than the iPhone or the iPod. I hope this helps and if you have any comments let me know. Thanks and take care. On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Fred Olver wrote: I am interested in your train of thought, could you go a step or two further in your thinking or what you know. I have often thought about why a person who is blind might want to use an iPad however beyond the dexterity considerations I don't see any particular advantage unless one is visually impaired thusly the letters and icons would be larger. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Avnish Chopra To: ViPhone Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:53 AM Subject: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too Ubergizmo The blind might not be the original target market for the folks over at Apple with the hugely successful iPad tablet in the first place, but this does not mean that with a little bit of training, some perseverance, as well as the right kind of software in place, the blind as well as visually impaired folks too, are able to take advantage of this popular tablet device. As you can check out in the video above from Bloomberg, Jon Erlichman from the same company participated in a workshop that actually helps instruct teachers on how one is able to unlock the power of the iPad for the visually impaired. This is definitely a heart warming video, as we see barriers being broken down thanks to the wonders of modern technology. I wonder whether similar training concepts and ideas can be incorporated so that those who want to use tablets on the Android platform will not feel left out of the equation. By Ubergizmo. Related articles: Logitech Keyboard Folio for iPad and iPad mini, Apple Adds 'Offers In-App Purchases' Warning To App Store Descriptions, Original Article: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/03/the-blind-have-use-for-an-ipad-too/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6205 - Release Date: 03/26/13 -- You received this message because you are
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You may be right, and you do definitely have a point. The iDevices do allow yout o scroll and navigate the pages with the braille display but what I was trying to emphasize was the fact that your pages are indeed larger like reading a book on the iPad versus reading on your phone is for sighted individuals. In some circumstances, can be crucial to what you're doing and/or reading for work, or whatever your uses are. I'm writing this on my second cup of cofee for the morning so I apologize for the rambble, but that was what I was trying to get to there. This was in response to what Fred I believe was asking as to why or how blind people could use or benefit from the iPad and how it would be able to fit into what a person would use one for versus say an iPhone or iPod, so that was all I was trying to do. Take care. On Mar 27, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Aman Singer wrote: Hello, Timothy. I would respectfully disagree that any of the things you note below have to do with the iPad except for container movement. All the rest are due to companies not properly putting accessibility into their applications. If SXM properly made their products accessible, there wouldn't be an issue in navigation, and if Apple allowed iBooks to have pages turned by the scrolling of a braille display, the largeness of the pages wouldn't matter. Personally, I like typing on the iPad and actually like the size/shape of the product for certain functions, and it can definitely be used by blind people, but the things you specifically mention are problems in access on the iDevices, not advantages of the iPad. Aman On 3/27/13, Timothy Emmons temmo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to chime in here, and I am also going to forward this on to some folks, for a few reasons. The biggest of couse is, that yes blind people can use an iPad and it does have a place and it goes beyond the dexterity issues you mentioned in your message. It may be a little bigger than an iPhone especially if you don't have an iPad mini but along with the extra real estate as it were, some apps give you more features and ways to interact on a bigger screen and the app developers make some of their apps take advantage of that size. Voiceover works a little differently on the iPad than it does on the phone, the basics are the same but some of the interaction is different in double tapping, holding, swiping, you have more room to do b igger gestures a four finger swipe for instance to bring up the app switcher, moving through emails and texts by container instead of just headings which moves you from section to section, etc. I could go on and on, but those are just a few ideas and things but an example of an app that works so much differently and better on the iPad, is of course the sirius Xm app. This app, on the phone is workable but a little different. On the iPad all your channel information is displayed, you can move through the channels without searching for certain areas on the screen, and you can get to things more quickly than on the phone. iBooks read differently than on the phone your pages are bigger. If you use a braille display this makes a difference because you're not having to advance page by page as quickly. I hope this helps and hope this might clear some thigns up but the iPad does work for blind people, can be used for pleasure as well as business and depending on the need can fit righ in with some of the best accessibility out there. I am a regional librarian for the Blind here in Alabama, and work with the braille collection as well as the technology and alternative reading methods and I teach classes, and give instruction on the iPad a lot and can tell you it makes a difference in those that use it, for some they would rather have it than the iPhone or the iPod. I hope this helps and if you have any comments let me know. Thanks and take care. On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Fred Olver wrote: I am interested in your train of thought, could you go a step or two further in your thinking or what you know. I have often thought about why a person who is blind might want to use an iPad however beyond the dexterity considerations I don't see any particular advantage unless one is visually impaired thusly the letters and icons would be larger. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Avnish Chopra To: ViPhone Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:53 AM Subject: The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too The Blind Have Use For An iPad, Too Ubergizmo The blind might not be the original target market for the folks over at Apple with the hugely successful iPad tablet in the first place, but this does not mean that with a little bit of training, some perseverance, as well as the right kind of software in place, the blind as well as visually impaired folks too, are able to take advantage of this popular tablet device. As you can check out in the video above from Bloomberg, Jon Erlichman from the
