Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-17 Thread Ed Worrell
Hello listers, and Mark
If you find the hide keyboard button in the bottom right hand corner  of the 
keyboard, you can do what is called a scrub gesture, this is done by placing 
two fingers on the screen and scrubbing from left to right several times, and I 
believe this will split the keyboard. Make sure the hide keyboard button has 
the Voiceover focus on it. 

hth
Ed
On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:24 PM, David McLean  wrote:

> According to what I found, if you go to settings, general, and keyboard, 
> there is a toggle to turn split keyboard on and off.
> HTH.
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Mark BurningHawk  
> wrote:
> 
>> Please excuse me, Monni, I *LIKE* split *TAP*.  I am annoyed by the split 
>> keyboard on the bottom of my screen.  I want it to be all one keyboard; I 
>> don't care if the screen is split, with the settings and other junk on the 
>> left and the relevant app taking up center and right. *grin* I want to know 
>> what gesture I used to turn split keyboard on; in fact, I want a 
>> comprehensive list of gestures and what they do and how to do that "Live 
>> long and prosper," thing…
>> 
>> Mark BurningHawk
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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread MamaPeach
This is what I found online about it:
Enabling and disabling the iPad split keyboard.
1. Tap the Settings app from your device’s home screen. 
2. Tap “General” from within the settings app.
3. Tap “Keyboard” from within the General settings page.
4. Tap the toggle switch next to “Split Keyboard” to enable or disable it.

From: Mark BurningHawk 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:03 PM
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Subject: Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

Can you tell me how I turned it on in the first place? The keyboard was NOT 
split for the longest time while I was setting up Cloud Mail, and then it 
turned on; any idea how that happened? 

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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread Mark BurningHawk
Can you tell me how I turned it on in the first place? The keyboard was NOT 
split for the longest time while I was setting up Cloud Mail, and then it 
turned on; any idea how that happened?

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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread David McLean
According to what I found, if you go to settings, general, and keyboard, there 
is a toggle to turn split keyboard on and off.
HTH.
On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Mark BurningHawk  wrote:

> Please excuse me, Monni, I *LIKE* split *TAP*.  I am annoyed by the split 
> keyboard on the bottom of my screen.  I want it to be all one keyboard; I 
> don't care if the screen is split, with the settings and other junk on the 
> left and the relevant app taking up center and right. *grin* I want to know 
> what gesture I used to turn split keyboard on; in fact, I want a 
> comprehensive list of gestures and what they do and how to do that "Live long 
> and prosper," thing…
> 
> Mark BurningHawk
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home page:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread Marcy Weinberg
You can turn off the split keyboard in settings, general, keyboard. It is a 
toggle off or on.



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On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Mark BurningHawk  wrote:

> Please excuse me, Monni, I *LIKE* split *TAP*.  I am annoyed by the split 
> keyboard on the bottom of my screen.  I want it to be all one keyboard; I 
> don't care if the screen is split, with the settings and other junk on the 
> left and the relevant app taking up center and right. *grin* I want to know 
> what gesture I used to turn split keyboard on; in fact, I want a 
> comprehensive list of gestures and what they do and how to do that "Live long 
> and prosper," thing…
> 
> Mark BurningHawk
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home page:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread Mark BurningHawk
Please excuse me, Monni, I *LIKE* split *TAP*.  I am annoyed by the split 
keyboard on the bottom of my screen.  I want it to be all one keyboard; I don't 
care if the screen is split, with the settings and other junk on the left and 
the relevant app taking up center and right. *grin* I want to know what gesture 
I used to turn split keyboard on; in fact, I want a comprehensive list of 
gestures and what they do and how to do that "Live long and prosper," thing…

Mark BurningHawk
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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread Mark BurningHawk
No, I turned on Split keyboard, because I heard it say Split Keyboard On."  
It's not the screen, it's the keyboard itself which has been squished over to 
the left and right to make way for the message body. There's a gesture to get 
rid of it.

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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread MamaPeach
No way to fix this. Split tap is simply touching and holding on a letter or 
an app with one finger and then touching anywhere else on the screen.


-Original Message- 
From: Mark BurningHawk

Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

Thanks, Sieghard:
Thanks for this; I haven't tweaked VO's settings yet, so it's on the 
beginner settings, highest verbosity, unfortunately.  Thus, as it is now, 
split-tap is not enabled, and you have to tap twice to enter a character 
into the text field.  Going to have to fix this sooner than later.


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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread MamaPeach
I don't think you can get rid of the split screen on an iPad, this is why I 
did not like it and went back to using an iPod. I do prefer the split tap 
when doing anything on the screen.


-Original Message- 
From: Mark BurningHawk

Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

Actually, I rather like using a split tap to type in the text field. now if 
I could figure out how to get rid of the darned split keyboard thing.


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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread Mark BurningHawk
Actually, I rather like using a split tap to type in the text field. now if I 
could figure out how to get rid of the darned split keyboard thing.

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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread David Chittenden
Split tap is always enabled. 

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On 17/01/2013, at 6:37, Mark BurningHawk  wrote:

> Thanks, Sieghard:
> Thanks for this; I haven't tweaked VO's settings yet, so it's on the beginner 
> settings, highest verbosity, unfortunately.  Thus, as it is now, split-tap is 
> not enabled, and you have to tap twice to enter a character into the text 
> field.  Going to have to fix this sooner than later.
> 
> Mark BurningHawk
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> Home page:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about typing mode,
using a split tap instead of a double tap. I didn't realize you were
talking about a split keyboard on an iPad.

On 16/01/13 12:14, Mark BurningHawk wrote:
> Well, okay, maybe you can then tell me how to turn off Split keyboard?  I did 
> a gesture that turned it off, now the message body of a new mail message is 
> protruding between my keyboard halves. :)  Found the At sign though! *grin*
> S
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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread Mark BurningHawk
Well, okay, maybe you can then tell me how to turn off Split keyboard?  I did a 
gesture that turned it off, now the message body of a new mail message is 
protruding between my keyboard halves. :)  Found the At sign though! *grin*
S
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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If double tapping to enter a character works then split tapping should
work as well. These are just two different ways of standard typing. The
setting switches between standard typing and touch typing. Unless I'm
mistaken, there's no setting to turn on split tapping. You just get it
for free with standard typing.

On 16/01/13 11:37, Mark BurningHawk wrote:
> Thanks, Sieghard:
> Thanks for this; I haven't tweaked VO's settings yet, so it's on the beginner 
> settings, highest verbosity, unfortunately.  Thus, as it is now, split-tap is 
> not enabled, and you have to tap twice to enter a character into the text 
> field.  Going to have to fix this sooner than later.
> 
> Mark BurningHawk
> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> Home page:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
> 

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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread Mark BurningHawk
Thanks, Sieghard:
Thanks for this; I haven't tweaked VO's settings yet, so it's on the beginner 
settings, highest verbosity, unfortunately.  Thus, as it is now, split-tap is 
not enabled, and you have to tap twice to enter a character into the text 
field.  Going to have to fix this sooner than later.

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RE: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Mark,

You can tell SIRI your user Id, but SIRI or Dictate is not available in a
Password field since that would not be secure as somebody may overhear you
and in any case, it would be hard to dictate a password that is just random
characters, numbers and symbols and where letters are both upper and lower
case. Of course most people use simple words as passwords, but this is an
invitation for disaster.

As many pointed out, iOS is smart enough to know when you are in an email
field and typically your @ symbol is just to the right of the space bar and
to the right of that is a .com so if you use a gmail address, all you have
to type is your name, find the space bar and slowly slide right until you
are off the space bar and find the @ symbol. Then type gmail and find the
.com button.

One other thing you can do until you get better at this is to find the right
Enter key as this one won't activate simply if  you lift your finger, you
have to split or double tap it. Once Voiceover says "Enter" and if you are
in the Apple Id field, do a single finger swipe left. The first thing you
should find is the .com or maybe just a period depending on the layout, I
only have an iPhone and the iPad is slightly different because it has more
space. Then swipe left again and you should find the @ symbol.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Update on the at sign + new Ipad 3 thread

2013-01-16 Thread Kimberly thurman
Do the rotor gesture until you get to punctuation and make sure it is set to  
speak all.  Just a shot!
On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:

> Hi, everyone who's chimed in on my Ipad thread.
> 
> First, thanks to those whose consensus gave me a good place to look for the @ 
> sign I need to complete my Apple ID.  Unfortunately, I still haven't found 
> it.  :)  That's okay, I have to work this project in with the other things I 
> try to juggle without crying over spilt milk too much.
> 
> Second, this Ipad has Siri, and I'd love to find a way to tell Siri what my 
> Apple ID and password are, but that doesn't seem to be an option.  Or, is it?
> 
> I'll have more to say about this later, I"m sure.  Thanks again, though.  
> Yall rock, yo
> 
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